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December 18, 2025 • 87 mins
Eddie and Rocky talk with Rachel Elliot, PJ Striet, Ray Trevino, and more on 700 WLW!

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
All right back with Eddie and Rocky and rock him
the place up here a little bit. How about this
is the magical time of the year. Look, what's Santa
dropped by?

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (00:14):
You guys are so sweet.

Speaker 4 (00:16):
Yes, I look at him every day. So yeah, yeah,
the rest of the show, I'm.

Speaker 5 (00:21):
Just sticking around. I'm just hanging out with my favorite people.
Got to see Willy, now I get to see you guys.

Speaker 4 (00:26):
We're okay, Rachel. By the way, Rachel Elliott joins us
on the hierarchy. I know I'm one between another fight. Yeah,
Willy and Rocky are fighting out for two.

Speaker 5 (00:39):
I'm saying Rocky because I tried to learn how to
golf over the summer and Willie blew me off. I
asked him to help me, and he was too busy
quote unquote busy.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
I cannot believe that he was too busy to help
literally anything.

Speaker 5 (00:56):
After everything I've done for that man. Yes, I have
walked him through life the last decade and a half.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
Well, dude, I heard you just talking to him about
setting up his only Fans page.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
I know I'm still doing it.

Speaker 5 (01:07):
I'm still I'm still out here maybe, although I will
admit that is for selfish purposes, because even ten percent
of that cut is going to be good.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
One hundred percent, there will be many loyal listeners in
their eighties and nineties that would absolutely love and pay
top dollar for it.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
Willie unfiltered, Now were.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
You there, by the way, were you there with the
bodies of the big one thing he did?

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yeah? Yeah, okay, that was that was my idea. That
was my idea back in the day.

Speaker 6 (01:33):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Do you guys know how many clickthroughs we got for that?
Do you want to know?

Speaker 7 (01:38):
I do?

Speaker 3 (01:40):
I did one and then Willy did one.

Speaker 5 (01:41):
I think I had one point two million clickthroughs and
Willy had close to a million, so two million page
views on Willy and I combined in the course of
like I want to say, a month.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
Well, trust me.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
So it wasn't a bad idea, guy. It was actually
kind of a great idea.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Great idea. But I just remember him pitching it and
you pitching it, and it was like, I'm gonna do this.
You guys are going to do it too, right, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
we'll follow you you first, and they were like.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
Eh, almost he almost got a divorce over but la
la la la la. But anyway, So what are you
doing now, kid? You're in country music?

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Now?

Speaker 8 (02:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (02:23):
No, I run all the country radio stations for iHeartMedia
and Kentucky now so, and I still hang out here sometimes.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
They have they gave me key card access to this building.

Speaker 5 (02:33):
I can't believe it, but yeah, so I can come
and go as I please and visit you guys whenever
I feel like it.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Nice.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
So you're you're boot scooting all over the country.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
I am.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
I've got three trips already booked because they have to
fly all over for for country and so I've already
got three trips booked before March. I'm going out to Utah.
I gotta go Nashville a couple of times. It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
That's nice. Who's the most interesting country artist? Had the
pleasure of talking.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
To interesting country artists?

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Interesting, not necessarily the most famous, the most interesting interesting.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
That's that's a that's a good one. I would probably
maybe Parker McCollum. He's pretty interesting.

Speaker 5 (03:14):
He's pretty interesting, uh just because uh, he doesn't necessarily
have to do country music.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
He just enjoys doing it, So you know.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
He's he's a he's a kind of a classic Texas
country singer.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
I get that, but you said he doesn't have to
do it, but he does. He's like a famous actor.

Speaker 5 (03:33):
No he's no, he just like has like the classic
Texas like you know, background, farm family.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
So he does.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
So he that's that's interesting.

Speaker 5 (03:46):
Uh, Jelly Rolls got an interesting backstory, but I feel
like everybody knows him.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
So yes, Yes, comes off cool and whenever it seems
really awesome, tell the story because I hadn't heard this, uh,
the giant ginger story.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
Okay, So I take music meetings up here so that
I can hang out with you guys, and that means
country artists will come in and play new music. And
a guy by the name of Matt Cooper stopped by
and he was performing in one of the conference rooms
just Caddy corner from this studio, and Rocky walked out
while he was trying to perform his new single for

(04:22):
me acoustically, and he just stumbled and like stopped mid song.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
He's like, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 5 (04:26):
The biggest ginger I have ever seen just walked out
of that room and I was like, yep, that's Rocky
and he was like, I mean, why is he so big?
And I was like, well, he did play in the NFL,
and he was like, Okay, that makes sense, and then
he went.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Back to playing a song.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
But yeah, so I still think that word is funny.

Speaker 5 (04:45):
So yeah, I can guarantee you he will never forget that.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Like I'll be able to see him in a couple
of months and be like, well.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
We cover the jar to the guy I spent a
little time down there, So yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
I'll set that play date up.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
That nice.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
That's for guy going to cower in fear. You have
some kind of a score to settle with them.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
No, I'm going to bring up the fact that I
was also in a bronze gun Metal Gray. Have I
ever told you about gun Mittal Gray?

Speaker 6 (05:10):
My time?

Speaker 1 (05:10):
And I'll spare Rachel.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
Wait, do you do you want to pivot to country
or you? I mean, I mean you could that could
be your future.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah, I mean, I mean I.

Speaker 5 (05:22):
Listen a lot of rock guys, a lot of rock
people have have pivoted to the country side of the things.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Why is that, you think? Is it is there like
a bigger market for country music.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
Or Yeah, And it's just hard to break through in
rock music now right, Like there's not a lot of
new acts breaking through and becoming big, and even even
your bands like food Fighters, and when they put out
new music, it doesn't stick around. It's just the classic
food Fighters songs that get played on the radio. So
it's just a lot harder. So that that southern rock
sound is all come over to the country side and

(05:53):
we play a lot of it.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
Right back in the day, I heard you and Willie
talking and you were talking about how the country didn't crossover.
And when I was working at EBN, I worked there
many years ago before you did.

Speaker 9 (06:06):
Did you know that?

Speaker 4 (06:06):
Yeah, anyways heard that when Steve or Copperhead Road came out. Yep,
we honestly, God had There were like three or four
of us sitting in a room with a program director
talking about whether or not we should play Copperhead Road.
Did you no see? I mean it came close though,
because there was two country at the time. Well it
was before because you still we were still playing Skinner

(06:29):
and you know, and that type of thing that hadn't
burned out yet. The burn factor now on that is uh,
it's ash. But copper Head we were like, dude, this
is a rock song, and he was he waffled and
we never did play it. But that's what's going on now.
I agree with you.

Speaker 5 (06:48):
Yeah, there's a lot of you know, Cowetzel, whiskey Myers.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Gosh, there are so many.

Speaker 5 (06:54):
I would say Jelly rolls even more on the rock
side of things, and Jason al Dean can, depending on
the song, can swing that. And it sounds like southern rock, right,
it's very it's some of it's pretty heavy. So you know,
we just kind of took advantage of that of that
hole in the market and made it country music and
just claimed it.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
And now now you guys can't have it back. So sorry.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
Well, I heard Willy talking to you about He and
I had this conversation about matt Race ladies and gentlemen,
the same thing. But anyways, I heard you and Willy
talking about that. He and I had this conversation of
where where are the big rock acts and I told

(07:40):
him there are none, No, there aren't any.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
It's all.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
And I heard you say it's all classic rock. Now
it is it is.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
I mean even popa roaches classic rock now right, like they.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Came out true and it's wild but yes, right, and
so early two thousands and now that's twenty five years.

Speaker 5 (07:56):
Fall Out Boy, fall Out boy to technically be because
the I think it was the standard, like twenty twenty
one years. I think it is for something to be
considered classic rock, and so I think their first thing
came out in two thousand and three, so that's that's
considered classic rock.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
Even well, and Willie was talking about what other bands,
what other bad I was I was like, Willie, let
me tell you something. My uh my two boys are
mid twenties and they were going in. Jack, who lived
in Chicago at the time, wanted to go to Lollapalooza
and I go, oh, man, what band do you want

(08:33):
to see? And I forget it might have been the
Chili Peppers or something like that. I was like, I
want to see the Chili Peppers because I told him
i'd get him tickets for his birthday and he says, no,
I want to see Kendrick.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Yeah, that was it.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, would have been sacrilegious, twenty.

Speaker 5 (08:49):
Faking okay, But Kendrick Lamar does put on a good
stage show like he does, he does bop like But
I mean, I think Olivia Rodrigo was the biggest poll
or maybe it was Sabrina Carpenter last year. I forget
at Lula, but they don't have it's not it's not
rock oriented like it used to be.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Why though, why why can there not be a big
arena selling rock band anymore?

Speaker 5 (09:12):
I think yeah, I think I think people just I
think that without having new bands to promote, you can
only see the Chili Peppers and the Food Fighters and
def Leppard that's one I love seeing live. You can
only see him live so many times. There has to
be other options, new music coming up. Uh And and
rock hasn't done a qui.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah, no one seems to fill that void. They get
to a certain level, but not you.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
Know, I want to ask any twenty five year old guy,
uh is, who's your favorite band? I guarantee you it's
going to be somebody like Kendrick or Jason Ald And
maybe nobody's going to say Breaking Benjamin. Yeah, let's put
it that way, right.

Speaker 9 (09:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (09:56):
And you know, as somebody that's seen all of those
arena shows and those stadium tours, so like Morgan and
Posts and stadiums, they're putting on a rock show.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
It's a rock show.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
And I've taken rock people two country shows and they're like, oh,
this is where the rock audience went, I've taken somebody
to a Luke Bryant show and they were like, this
is this is this is a rock show, this is
this is where our audience went.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
And it is true.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
So rather than wait around for some rock group to
come there, I won't one an their country because it's
fun as hell and great concert and.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
Well, people can say what they want to about kiss
what I think even those guys figured out, after they
had milked that whole thing dry they retired for ten
years in a row, that it was right. They re
just went like, Okay, we're still making money. We're we're
not retired. Jet that's the unretired tour, and just kept going.
And that's what the Eagles are doing. Sure, same thing, man,

(10:46):
Why why would you all of them when somebody is
willing to pay you millions and millions of dollars? Why
would we just go I'm good. All you have to
do is get in the jet playing and fly to
Cincinnati for the afternoon, do a show, get back in
your plane, flight to where you live.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Boom. But also, the albums don't sell anymore, right, No
one buys an album, no, no, right, And so you
should make a ton of work I mean, you're not
talking about the Beatles never toured because they made all
their money off of albums. You got to make money
on touring. That's what yeah do, right.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
Taylor Swift made hundreds of millions of dollars on the
Airs tour, and Morgan Walland does close to that too.
He makes hundreds of millions on his tours. So really
everybody's pushing the you know, the actual stage events and
what rock group can even come close to having that
kind of poll.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
And with that, Rachel, we are going to have to
let you go. We could do this for another company
to drop by again sometimes.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Out with you guys anytime.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
You know that. Please, yes, thank you, Rachel Elliott. Everyone
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Speaker 4 (13:08):
You can sing like an angel. Oh god, she's got
a great voice. Because you and I've talked about that
kind of stuff before, just music that you didn't think
you would ever like. And I buy in one of
her albums. I don't know if I if I stole
it from work, I mean, got it from work, or

(13:29):
if somebody gave it.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
I don't remember, But damn she's good. Yeah, Sean's saying,
which that that just you know that that carries you know,
it doesn't matter what the song is. If you can
really belt it, it's enjoyable.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
And let me tell you something which brings me to
uh pet peeve of head fingers. If I might, no,
I'm fired up. I love when Eddie steps up on
his soapbox. Here full my sleeve if folks say less
than you're no. Yeah, the sleeves got rolled up. He
tightened the headphones a little bit on his head. He
kind of did one of these, his shoulders race a

(14:06):
little bit. No, Like I said, the woman can sing
like an angel in this hand. I forget who there
was another person I saw kind of that's ilk, but
it doesn't matter. Alison Kraus. If you haven't ever heard her,
listen to her sing she fantastic and I saw her.
I've seen her a couple of times, but one time

(14:27):
I saw her at Music Hall and wearing like the
first or second row of the upper balcony. And yeah,
she's very quiet. But you know, all around us there
are these women who fancy themselves as singers. And you
know she's singing uh, one of my favorite songs by her.

(14:52):
It wouldn't have made any difference by Todd Rundren. Have
you ever heard that?

Speaker 1 (14:55):
It was beautiful?

Speaker 4 (14:57):
So you know she can and she got the beautiful voice,
and the band is just playing real low and behind her.
But then there's some you know, fat lady sitting about
four rows away from me, going.

Speaker 11 (15:10):
You would man, it's like, shoot up, Allison can sing
that song, right, you cannot respect?

Speaker 4 (15:21):
Come on, respect please, I mean you can do okay
if it's guns and roses, scream your lungs out to
sweet Child. Don't be singing along with something like that, right,
Come on man.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
If this is a loud, just chaotic rock song, yell
it out absolutely.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
What you're there for. Right, It's like going to see
James Taylor or something. It's like I see fat I've
seen rain.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Yeah, yeah, you can kind of in a very low
way sing along a little bit, but I'm screaming out
use your inside voice.

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Should here's my inside voice for this? Or can I
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You know you do that?

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Speaker 4 (16:12):
I think that that's kind of the way we want
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All right, back with Eddie and Rocky and rock I
want to thank Bob for sending the video. I totally
forgot this happened, but we were talking about Stone tumble
Pilots a little while. This happened in twenty ten at Riverbend,
Scott Wiland from stp Stone Tumble Pilots is singing and
doing his old scream into the micro or into the

(18:12):
megaphone thing, yep, and he's walking around and all of
a sudden he just walked right into the pit. Now,
what was What's the weirdest thing you've ever seen in
a showing anything remotely resembling that.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Weirdest?

Speaker 4 (18:32):
I mean, I've seen plenty of fights. I've seen no
hell was at the who thing that goes for it
speaks for itself. But just people with fireworks and all
kinds of anything like that. It just my my favorite
was always say, there's like three bands playing at Riverbend,

(18:54):
and by about the middle of the first act you
see the guy curled up on a blanket all liquored up.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yeah asleep. He peaked too early. Yeah he had like
eighteen Jaeger bomb shots. We're gonna get ready for the concert, Dude,
you must not ever been to a concert because the
headliner doesn't come on when they say they're coming on.
It's usually like an hour later. So pace yourself.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
I saw a thing. Shoot, it was on social someplace,
but a guy talking and it sounds like me. It's like, Okay,
the concert starts at eight, so I want to get
there at seven, so we want to park at six thirty.
We want to eat at five. So yeah, you work backwards, right,

(19:44):
and that's what and leave the house at So I
leave the house at like three thirty to eat at
five to get to the place to park at you know,
six thirty, and somebody goes, well, then the band doesn't
come on until nine thirty, so you're hurrying.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
For its exactly right. Yeah, I mean anything weird. I
mean I've seen plenty of cool moments at a concert.
I think I told you I was at that Kentucky
Speedway show. It was corn Kid Rock and Metallica and
James Hetfield like that morning had got injured in a
jet ski accident and and and again that was before

(20:21):
social media, but even then, like word was you know,
amongst those tens of thousands of people, word was spreading
around and it's like, oh my god, or are they
gonna play? And they showed up and and they all
kind of came out instead of like opening the show.
It was like all the guys from corn All the
guys from you know, Kid Rock, and and they said,
we're gonna handle the vocals and we're gonna put on

(20:43):
a show. And it was cool because you got to
see I've seen Metallica ten times, right, but I've seen
Metallica with Kid Rock and Jonathan uh whatever Davis singing
one time. Right, So it was cool. It was meat Yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
Ah, right up, we have the news, but after the news,
we are still having our health segment.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Yes, and the topic is I think interesting, is it's
on stretching or we've all heard you know, when you're
a kid and you're an athlete, you should stretch, and
as an adult it's important to stretch, well, is it. Yeah,
he's gonna educate us on that and maybe set the
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I E T. PJ. We're talking today about a very
controversial topic to some degree, right, and that's stretching. All right,
We've all heard you and I and everybody out there
that's played youth, base, behol or anything. You gotta stretch.

(29:17):
You gotta stretch before you perform. And stretching is good
and elongates your muscles and keeps you from getting injured.
Blah blah blah blah blah. And then as you get older,
it's important to stretch because you know it's just good
for your overall health and wellness. But is that actually
the case, PJ?

Speaker 10 (29:35):
Well, and certainly we heard that as athletes. But you know,
we're all over forty years old, and most people listening
to this are too. It's if you watch people just
move around, you know, they get up from their chair
and they you know, ah, they give it. You know,
they grab their lower back and they you know, they're
they're kind of staggering around, and they did just appear tight.
And a lot of a lot of adults are tight.

(29:56):
But it's stretching really the fix for that? Well, yes
and no, but here's what you got to understand. Stretching
doesn't lengthen your muscles, right. Stretching does not permanently make
a muscle longer. You're not really loosening any tissue. What's
really happening there when you stretch is more at a

(30:18):
neurological level. So static stretching, where you hold a stretch
for you know, twenty seconds to a minute, that doesn't
change the muscle much. It changes how much, it changes
how much stretch your brain will tolerate. So you're really
stretching your nervous system and not your muscle. So for
all the forty plus adults listening to this, myself included,

(30:40):
if you feel tight, which a lot of us do.
It doesn't necessarily mean you need to stretch, right. If
you feel tight, it often means that number one, your
muscles are weak, or they're under used, or everybody's a
culprit of this.

Speaker 12 (30:57):
You're sitting too much.

Speaker 10 (30:58):
So if you feel tight and stiff, your body is
trying to protect you.

Speaker 6 (31:04):
Right.

Speaker 10 (31:05):
Your body often will tighten muscles not because they need
to be stretched, because they they sense that something else
isn't doing its job right. So, like, if you're sitting
a lot, like we all do, your hips feel tight,
If your hamstrings feel tight, very very common thing usually.

Speaker 12 (31:22):
Do to to weak butt muscles.

Speaker 10 (31:24):
If your lower back is tight, it's because it's doing
too much work when other things should be.

Speaker 12 (31:29):
If that all makes sense.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
Yeah, Well, let me ask you this, PJ, because I've
always wondered about this. Does it yoga? What what does
yoga do for you? I mean, does it.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
If that's glorified stretching, That's what I'm wondering.

Speaker 12 (31:44):
Yeah, Yeah, it's a great way to put it.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Rock.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
Yeah, it is glorified stretching. I'm wondering does that really
help you?

Speaker 14 (31:50):
So?

Speaker 10 (31:51):
Yeah, it's it's it's it's a great question. Eddie and
it's good, it's good. Segue What what is stretching good for?

Speaker 6 (31:58):
Right?

Speaker 10 (31:58):
When does it make sense? I would say for relaxation purposes,
yoga would certainly fall into that category. For stress relief,
you know, if you're cooling down from from a hard workout,
it can make sense there. And certainly and Rock, you'll
you'll you'll agree with this. It certainly has value for

(32:21):
athletes in terms of being able to access greater ranges
of motion like Rock. Like when you played, it's not
like you know, you took the bus to the stadium,
you know, in your suit and want put your pads
on and you know, got in the huddle because if
you did, you weren't gonna you weren't going to perform
well and you probably get hurt. So for you know, relaxation,

(32:43):
stress relief, stress relief. If you're involved in the competitive sport,
I think it makes a lot of sense. But but again,
you're not lengthening your muscles. And for you know, for
for the adults out here, just the general, Joe and James,
what you actually need to improve after forty is your.

Speaker 12 (33:03):
Mobility and the way that you do that.

Speaker 10 (33:06):
Number one, as I always talk about on here, You
need to be strength training lifting weights through a full
range of motion, so you know, deep squats, lunges, rows, presses,
push ups. You need to be doing the reps with
intention and slowly. And again, most stiffness is caused from
not moving a lot. So more walking, not just structured workouts,

(33:28):
but but more walking. Movement beat stretching and strength beat
stretching every time.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
You got into this. But I guess maybe break it
down a little more. If stretching doesn't elongate a muscle,
what does it do? I mean, what happens when you know,
I lay on the you know, sit on the ground
and I can't touch my toes, But after I kind
of do it for like twenty seconds, I can. Yeah,
So what happens when you stretch?

Speaker 9 (33:57):
Again?

Speaker 10 (33:57):
As I talked about when we opened up here, it's
more of a neurological thing, right like your bit When
you stretch, think, it's almost like taking the.

Speaker 12 (34:05):
Breaks off your central nervous system.

Speaker 10 (34:07):
So you know, if you get into a stretch and
it feels really really tight and you hold it for
a while, your brain will develop in nervous system will
develop a tolerance to it, so you can access a
greater range of motion. And again, you know, if you're
you know, if you're a young athlete, it's it's important

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to do forms of flexibility work, namely dynamic work where
it's more movement based. You don't see a lot of
static stretching the pre game anymore. It's usually stuff like lunges,
like go watch the bangles if you go down to
the stadium and watch what they do, and they're not
doing like a lot of static stretches.

Speaker 12 (34:44):
It's more movement stuff.

Speaker 10 (34:46):
Or if you're you know, if you're just a weekend warrior,
stretching movement prior to competition. Again, it's going to take
the breaks off of your nervous system and it's going
to allow you to access ranges of motion that you
otherwise wouldn't have.

Speaker 12 (35:03):
Been able to. Does that make sense?

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Yes? Yeah, Okay, so stretching it kind of ready's against
gets your central nervous system more in tune and ALIGNE
got it correct.

Speaker 9 (35:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (35:17):
But here's the thing.

Speaker 10 (35:18):
You know, we're all busy people, we're all busy adults.
And I've talked many times before on the segment here.
You know, I tell you you gotta you got to
you got to strength training two or three days a week.
You got to do two hours of cardio a week.
You got to get your ten thousand steps in. People
just have a finite amount of time to devote towards
fitness related stuff, right. I don't know that that you're

(35:42):
going to get a great return on your investment spending
a lot of time doing stretching, because again, if you're
if you're strength training through a full range of motion,
you're going to develop flexibility and mobility just doing that,
in addition to joint stability, which is what a lot
of us need.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
We're talking the PJ Street and at PJ when you're
talking about full range of motion, it seems to me
that's indicating that the best, the best possible workout is
working out on machines, right, I mean, does it seem
like that free weights would lend itself to that.

Speaker 10 (36:15):
Well, now you can go through a full range of
motion with dumb bells, barbells, machines. What's nice about machines, Eddie,
is that you're in a more stable environment and that
way it's probably easier to access the full range of
motion for a lot of people using machines. Initially, like
you know, for instance, somebody might not be able to
squat down with an upright chest to where the you know,

(36:37):
their hamstrings are touching their caps, but you can get
them into a leg press machine that's a little bit
more stable, and they can come back and get their
knees up into their chest and you know they're gonna
get a lot more mobility work that way.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
So yeah, And now, in terms of athletes, PJ is
the amount of stretching you have to do. Is it overblown?
Is it underblown? Because I've seen things both ways. I've
heard people talk about how you know stretching is an athlete,
and this goes along with what you're saying here, but
as an athlete isn't quite as important. But I always

(37:12):
felt that it did. Like you said, I couldn't just
walk off the bus and run on the jump on
the field and go. Especially now as I'm older, I
feel like I got to at least do something, whether
that's stretching my muscles or my central nervous system. It
feels good, so I do it.

Speaker 9 (37:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (37:29):
Again, it's great for temporary stiffness, stress relief, and again
and just priming the nervous system, increasing body temperatures.

Speaker 12 (37:39):
You can perform better.

Speaker 6 (37:41):
Right.

Speaker 10 (37:41):
But but again it's not that you're you're lengthening your
muscles doing it. Like for instance, you'll give you an analogy.
If you take a corpse, right, you can probably get
them into a really good hamstring stretch rights, when when
they were with us on the planet, they might have
come played of tightened hamstrings.

Speaker 6 (38:01):
Right.

Speaker 10 (38:01):
So it's not again, it's not a muscle length issue.
It's more of a nervous system issue. Got you well,
probably more than you wanted to know about stretching.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
But no, this is good because again there's been there's
always kind of the old ways of thinking about it
and the old myths out there.

Speaker 4 (38:19):
But this this makes Now when you were playing Rocket,
what kind of what was your regimen before a game?
I know you've talked about running around the field and stuff,
but as far as stretching or what what.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
So, yes, I would have a trainer stretch me and
like my hips and stuff. And again whether it you know,
at the end of the day, especially that and and
you know a lot of the things we do, it's
results driven, right, whatever makes me better at plane, whether
from a scientific standpoint, helps or not.

Speaker 14 (38:49):
A lot.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
I'm sure there's a lot of mental like Okay, this
is gonna this is part of my process, and then
you know, okay, so that guy stretched me, and then
I go through some of my own. Then I slowly
warm my body up and put it in increasingly more
vigorous dimensions and you know, lengths and that sort of thing,
and by then you're ready to go buy kickoff.

Speaker 10 (39:09):
Yeah, that's perfectly said, Rock. I mean, some of it
is just psychological, right, it really is. But for again,
for the for the typical nine to five, are Joe
and Jane listening to this. If you feel chronically stiff
and tight, it's probably more of an issue that you
have weak muscles or underused muscles and you're just sitting

(39:30):
too much and not getting enough movement. So again, get
your steps in throughout the day, make sure your strength
training because again you're going to get both mobility, flexibility
and stability and strength benefits all in one activity there.
So again it's probably not an issue of your muscles
or shorts. That's usually an issue of weak muscles, under
used muscles.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
So PJ.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
With that, we're going to let you go. But what
are your Christmas plans? What are your holiday plans? Here
for the next couple of weeks because we are gone
as of tomorrow until after the new year.

Speaker 10 (40:02):
Well, I got we got eight of us going to
the precinct at two o'clock on Christmas Eve afternoon.

Speaker 12 (40:10):
That's gonna be fantastic.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Yeah, tie the feedbag on there a little bit.

Speaker 12 (40:14):
Yeah, oh yeah, you bet.

Speaker 10 (40:16):
And then we got girlfriend's moms out in Middletown that night,
and then probably my my brother's over in Columbia, Tuscle
on Christmas Day.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
What I think you should do? You have a brother, right,
Oh yeah, okay, I think you and your brother should
do like a like a December twenty fifth Christmas Day,
like just lift upon you know who can make who
puke first? And then this is a good way to
kind of start the day off. I think who's gonna win?

Speaker 12 (40:47):
Oh, I'm gonna wint.

Speaker 7 (40:50):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (40:51):
I don't. I don't know that.

Speaker 10 (40:51):
I don't know our brothers lifting much many weights here
in in the last ten years.

Speaker 12 (40:56):
He used to be able to squat like three fifty
for twenty back in the day.

Speaker 4 (40:59):
But old guy now a little bit too much? All
right with that, PJ, We will let you go, buddy.
Where can people go yep.

Speaker 10 (41:10):
If you need help getting fit in the new year,
I'm your guy. Uh offer online and in person services.
You can find out more Revive Fitnessystems dot com and
make sure to give me a follow on Instagram and
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Speaker 1 (41:21):
PJ. Hey, great stuff this year, man, We really appreciate
it having Merry Christmas and we'll talk to you here
beginning next year.

Speaker 12 (41:28):
My friend, Yes, sir, Merry Christmas.

Speaker 9 (41:30):
Bye bye.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Thanks.

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We're going to be talking Orc and friend Jason Offfen
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is a Ray Trevino RTI. Welcome back to the program.

Speaker 6 (44:04):
Oh well, thank you all for having me and Marry
Christmas everyone out.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
There and you so Ray.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
We're here to talk about what's going on with Venezuela.
Now we got this blockade apparently going on we're at
least starting now, what's that going to do to our
oil supply from henceforth, are we going to see our
prices start going back up. I don't know how much
oil we get from Venezuela.

Speaker 6 (44:30):
Well, we could definitely see the prices continue to come
up and or also down. Venezuela is very important right
now from a strategic standpoint. It make no doubt about it.
It has absolutely nothing to do with the drug boats
that are going across. As you all know, and why
y'all asked me to come on is President Trump seized

(44:51):
an actual oil tanker from Venezuela last week, and right
now we actually have you know information they I get
all my news feeds through mypaykos dot oil and based
off that information, there are two more tankers that were
just filled up in the last two days. And really,

(45:12):
President Trump is set a president now, and if he
does not seize those tankers, then organizations like OPEK are
not even valid anymore. The whole reason we have these
organizations is to keep the price of oil at a
good price. And right now, with all this oil being
proven to be on what's known as a dark fleet,

(45:35):
that's all we can't account for, which means a price
of oil will will continue to rise while that oil
is being moved without being accounted for. Basically, it's a
fake supply and demand that we have right now. And
once we get that supply actually accounted for on the market,
we could bring the price of oil down even that much.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
More so, Ray, I know, one thing you know Trump
prioritized was, you know, opening up the gas and oil
industry here to a much larger degree here in America.
And I believe we get the majority of our oil
and gas from America. But if you could break down

(46:14):
for us, like the total amount of gas and oil
that we use, how much of it is from America?
How much is it from this country that country?

Speaker 6 (46:23):
Yes, that's a great question. Guys. We produce here in
America fourteen million barrels of oil a day right now,
and that looks like that may become the new normal
just because of how you fish at oil and gas
wells are producing oil when they come.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Online and right right, real quick. So just put in
context scores fourteen million barrels a day, Like, is that
compared to last year or five years ago? Is that
a lot, a little, a ton? Where are we at?

Speaker 6 (46:54):
Good question, So we've been averaging almost fourteen million barrels
a day now for twenty four months. The country America
uses twenty one million barrels of oil a day. So
we will continue to get more than half of our
oil from other sources around the world.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Gotcha, and what are those the primary other sources?

Speaker 6 (47:16):
The Middle East is where we get a lot of
that oil from uh and then some from some of
our other allies. But the majority of our oil comes
into our ports to be refined, while the majority of
our oil goes out.

Speaker 17 (47:29):
To be refined.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
Our guest is Rachelvignho and Ray let me ask you
in the Middle East, which country do we get most
of it from? I'm guessing Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 6 (47:42):
That's a good that is a very good guess. From
the OPEC countries. Saudi Arabia is the leader of OPEK,
but also we do have Kuwait as well as well
as Cutter and other places. But yeah, Saudi Arabia is
a big one for us.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
If you could just break down exactly the reason why
Trump is prioritizing you know, Venezuela and the tanker. I
know you talked earlier about the president that it's said,
but I guess what caused this initial strife.

Speaker 6 (48:14):
Here two things. First, of all, you got to go
back to the Monroe doctrine. And then because of the
Monroe doctrine, the presence of Russia and China in not
only Venezuela but other South America countries is so prudent,
is so there right now that we need to be

(48:37):
in our own hemisphere and basically in our own backyard,
and with Russia and China there, that sets a president
that should not be. And also keep in mind, China
basically controls the Panama Canal. There are many different canals
across the Panama Canal, but guess who owns the end

(49:00):
canal on each side of that and that's China, which
basically means nothing gets through the canals unless they get
through China.

Speaker 7 (49:10):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
And what ways does does China way heavy in this
whole dynamic relationship here.

Speaker 6 (49:18):
Well, they just signed a very good deal with Venezuela
to buy more soybeans and also continue to buy their oil.
Venezuela actually has one of the largest reserves in the world.
And again it has absolutely nothing to do with drugs.
It has to do with the fact that Russian and
China or in Venezuela and that they should not be

(49:42):
there due to the Monroe doctrine, and we need to
really remove that presence as quickly as we can.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
So, Rtie, let me ask you how being in the business,
in the oil business, how I don't know how incorporated
are the Chinese and the Russians, but a mainly the Chinese.
How how are they have they infiltrated the deepest roots
of the Venezuelan culture as far as oil goes, or
what are we looking at here?

Speaker 6 (50:09):
It's what we're looking at is very similar as what
they're doing in Africa, which is pay to play. They're
coming in and dropping billions of dollars on infrastructure and
other things in the region, which then make them the
favorite and then then re exchange. Obviously they give them
land and resources.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
So ray in a nutshell though, Look, we've all, for
certainly the last six months, enjoyed some very favorable gas prices.
Right when we go to the pump. Do you expect
with all this going on, that's going to continue? Is
it going to get lower? Get higher? What do you see?

Speaker 6 (50:51):
That's a great question, and I just want to share this.
I just got back from an annual lunch that I
do with two good friends where we basically, guess the
price of oil on this day next year, and I'm
only looking at sixty three dollars oil next year right now. Drill, baby,
drill is going to continue. And these gas prices is

(51:12):
what President Trump wants to get down. I know that
in Cincinnati, y'all basically kind of favored the prices in Texas.
And we're averaging about two fifty a bear a gallon
right now gas. And I know what, Yeah, and I
paid less than three dollars a gallon for diesel.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Well that'll work. Keep it up.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
Yeah, all right, too awesome with that, Ray, We will
let you go, buddy. People want to find out more
about what it is you do. Where can they go?

Speaker 6 (51:39):
Oh yes, I have them go to the crudit truth
dot com or the Crude True substack and that's where
all my news goes to.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
All right, thanks so much, thank you guys.

Speaker 4 (51:50):
Uh Ray Travino. How does your website dot com dot
that's yeah, that I still have a my Space because
it is kind of a charity gig. So well, well,
all we can do if the if a guy's telling

(52:11):
me who's in the business that it's going to be
sixty three dollars a barrel this time next year.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
I'm going to believe him because I want to. Yes,
I mean that that has been great, and I know
the economy, or I should say the price of things
has been very iraq. Some things at the grocery store
are less. A lot of things are the same or more.
But the fact that that gas is lower helps helps
ease some of that paint a bit.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
Uh rock In other news, did you hear I want
to talk about this. This happened a couple of weeks
ago in San Francisco.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
We live in San Francisco anymore. I feel like it's
like a bombed out.

Speaker 7 (52:53):
I saw.

Speaker 4 (52:56):
That it was coming back, but I don't know. I
haven't been there in ten years. The last time I
was there, it did look like twenty eight days later,
you know.

Speaker 6 (53:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
But yeah, everybody's making a big deal out of the
Waymo taxis they have there.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
That's a big thing. The driving guys.

Speaker 4 (53:14):
Yeah, remember a couple of shoot it's been with the
last month or two that the uh one of the
waymos ran over a cat.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Remember that. No, that was a big contra, the beloved
neighborhood cat. Whatever. Well, you know, we have a cat.
Now Miss Kitty Chaco or Miss kit Coco's her real name,
but she goes by Miss Kitty. That's what I call her.
That's what I call div Yeah, you're kitty. She knows
what happens. Then, yeah, I know what happens. Then her

(53:53):
back hunch is up to hisses at me.

Speaker 6 (53:56):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (53:56):
And also remember the uh the weimo was some but
he was in the back of it and.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Yeah, story yesterday and I jumped out of the trunk. Well, no,
that was that was another one. Yeah, well there was
somebody hid in the truck. We had that yesterday.

Speaker 4 (54:09):
But no, the guy's going down the street and then
the waimo figured out it was going the wrong way,
so it didn't you turn in front of a cop
and the CoP's coming up and the guy in the
backs going So the cop didn't know what to do,
so they didn't obviously didn't get a ticket. But the waimo,
come on, man, it does do some good apparently, or

(54:31):
it can. A mother was on her way to the
University of California San Francisco Medical Center. This happened a
couple of mondays ago, and she was in the weaimo.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Now I don't know what.

Speaker 4 (54:45):
I don't know the backstory on this, but your family
unit is a little screwed up. If you were taking
a self driving taxi to the hospital to have a baby.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
Wow, that's new age right there.

Speaker 4 (54:57):
Okay, so she's she's on the way and I guess
if she's screaming, I'm having a baby. Well, the way
Mo detected something was wrong, so it called nine one one.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
On its own.

Speaker 4 (55:18):
Way moo blah blah blah, owned by the Google company.
Alphabet declined to elaborate on how the vehicle knew something
was a miss. Now that's a thing out there. We've
talked about this where people are seeing what, you know,
if you know what I mean, get away with in
the back of these cars and stuff. So they hire it,

(55:41):
you know, they get it to drive them out to
the other side of town. They're with their girlfriend, and
you know what happens.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
So what do they claim like they're not being videoed
or they are. But what's the what's the no pitch,
no idea? The woman?

Speaker 4 (56:00):
What gets me is that the woman had the baby
and the taxi went ahead and delivered it, delivered her
to the hospital and they I guess the people were
waiting for her to pull up.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
But they just the hospital. Hey, she's having this baby.

Speaker 4 (56:17):
There's a baby being born right now in the back
of this cab, so they I guess they had the
figured they couldn't get to it. She'd get to them
before they got to her. Okay, basically no, But it
does beg the question how does it know? How can
it process all of this?

Speaker 1 (56:34):
What cues is it getting other than I mean she's screaming, Hey,
I'm having this baby, take me to the hospital. That
would be you know, that me reasonable, But.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
Well, it would seem there'd have to be some kind
of precautionary stuff in there, right if you're getting you know,
if somebody like we had that thing yesterday with the
guy jumping shimming his way over the top of the
back seat, had been hiding in the trunk, Yeah, there
has to be a way for you to indicate, hey,
somebody's in here with me.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Yeah. I assume it's it's video incorrect, because it would
have to do that because just to stop from vandalism, right,
if you know, somebody goes inside one of those things
and rips the U polsry out or something.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
People are people are nuts, rock you know that people
are gonna get in if a couple of drunk. If
I'm if I'm twenty twenty two to twenty three and
I'm with a couple of my buddies and we're all
liquored up, I was like, let's get one of these
self driving cars and mess it up.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
Yeah, just thinking you could, and who cares? I wonder
iful at that point it would it would know that
it would lock you in and take your right to
right to jail.

Speaker 4 (57:44):
One would assume, yeah, so there you are, locked in
the embrace, if you know what I mean with your girlfriend. Yeah,
all of a sudden it incides to drive you to
the cock to the police station.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
Wait a minute, hey, hey, little little proc here, what's up, officer.
I assume there will be a day not too far
away where somewhere I go, I'll be downtown in a
driverless car will come up. I I kind of wanted

(58:15):
to be like, you know, because I guess for the
most part they're downtown, right, So that's a little bit
of a more controlled environment.

Speaker 7 (58:23):
Rid.

Speaker 4 (58:23):
Yeah, so I guess I look forward to trying it out.
When do you get in your first flying cab?

Speaker 1 (58:29):
Now here's here's a question. Do you have to tip
the driverless car?

Speaker 4 (58:32):
Oh, it'll, it'll. I'm sure it flips the old tip
screen around to you. No, it's what happens now, and
I'm not doing it. With that, we check in with
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Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
Jason Hoffman from the Inquire Cincinnati dot com sports editor
here to talk about the games coming up this weekend.
And it's that time of year where they have Saturday
games now. But let's say, let's talk about the game
to the game tonight. Rams at Seahawks should be good.
I'm seeing Rams by a point and a half.

Speaker 7 (01:00:58):
Yeah, this one's if you like good football. One of
the best defenses, if not the best defense in the Rams,
and one of the best I will say running attacks
in the game with the Seahawks. It should be an
awesome game. I like the Seahawks in this spot the Rams.
Of course, I don't know how many people follow as

(01:01:20):
much NFL news as I do, but they had some
troubles getting out of Lax, so maybe they have one
of those miracle bonding moments like the Bengals allegedly did
before the Thanksgiving game where they were stuck for I
think it was five or six hours on the tarmac.
But yeah, I'm all in the Seahawks in this one.
If it was flipped and they were playing at that
so Ifi Stadium in La'd be the other way. But

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give me the Seahawks minds the points.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
Tonight, I gotta tell you, you know, mostly because they're
NFC and they're on the other codes. I don't get
to watch the Seahawks much, but I watched a little
bit last week. They are a damn good football team,
you know, and eleven wins. And the fact that they're
minus one and a half against the Rams, who I
think are also one of the best teams in the league.
I think that says something. Let's go to the one

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of two Saturday games. Let's go how about this, Let's
go with the Eagles and Commanders. Eagles they had lost
three straight, but then they beat I believe the Raiders
last week. They're a nine win team and playing the Commanders,
who are a four win team. They're not in it
at all. But I'm seeing Eagles minus six and a half.

Speaker 7 (01:02:24):
Yeah, I'm all over this one. I initially handicapped that
I had Eagles minus eight. So give me six and
a half all day long. Last week, as you mentioned,
you know, get right game against the Raiders, which seem
to be everyone's get right game this year. And I
love the Eagles in this spot, they're starting to use
design runs for Chanalin hurts a little more creeping up

(01:02:46):
now as we get close to playoff time. I wonder
if that was by design where they didn't do that
as much earlier in the year and everyone was criticizing
how that offense moved. But yeah, give me the Eagles
minus anything under eight, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
The other Saturday game is this is gonna be a
good one. Packers at Bears last I saw Packed by
a point and a half and then over under a
forty six and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
What do you got here, Jason?

Speaker 7 (01:03:12):
All right, So two weeks ago this was our big winner.
I'm not gonna tell anybody how much money I put
down on this when they played initially, but the Packers
were minus six and a half, and we said at
the time that line seemed really weird. When those lines exist,
it's for reasons. Vegas knew what was going on. We
hit with the Packers go on the opposite way this time.

(01:03:33):
Two weeks later, we just saw it with the Pimples
and the Ravens. Ravens came into pay Corpse Stadium and
just ate the lunch and took them to the Woodshed.
I'm not gonna say that it's going to be like
a thirty four to zher in game, but I think
one and a half is way too low. Give me
the Bears minus those points and I'm even gonna move
the move the spread up to six. And that's I

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did the math earlier on that. I should say I
simulated it on the bed gm app and that got
us almost three and a half to one.

Speaker 6 (01:04:04):
Money.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
Very good one of the Sunday games. And I'll tell
you if there's a more you know a team that
I would say frustrating, but you don't really know what
they are the Buccaneers and they've lost five of their
last six, including their their last two, and early in
the season they looked like, man, this is going to

(01:04:27):
be the team to come out of the NFC. So
they're trying to, you know, scratch and clawing stay in
this thing. At seven and seven and now they're playing
the Panthers so this is a divisional game. They are
somehow good this year. They're at seven and seven two
seven to seven teams. Jase, I'm seeing Buccaneers minus three.
What are you seeing here?

Speaker 7 (01:04:48):
We've got a little PTSD this season from the from
the Bucks. I'm not gonna lie, no doubt. I've been
on them almost every week that you've asked about that game,
and we've just been burned a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
I mean, honest to god, why have they collapsed? Well,
you know, Baker Mayfield has been battling some injuries, right,
and Evans has been battling injuries, so you know, to
your best players and a few other things.

Speaker 7 (01:05:16):
But yeah, yeah, exactly, So I'm gonna go. I'm ready
to be hurt again. Okay, I'm gonna go with the
Bucks minus the three and hope that worst case scenario
they win by a field goal. We push, but I
am ready to be hurt again this weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:05:34):
All right, let's talk about the only reason to bring
this game up is it's kind of surprising. Chargers at Cowboys.
The Boys by two and a half. I'm seeing with
an over and over under a forty nine and a half.
That's a big number.

Speaker 9 (01:05:49):
What do you got?

Speaker 6 (01:05:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:05:50):
The reason for this is because of the broken left
hand on Justin Herbert, as well as the Cowboys having
the rest advantage and the Rams having to travel or sorry,
the Chargers having to travel. The Cowboys are in the
same position the Bengals were in last week, where they're
in that one percent chance to make the playoffs. They
went out a bunch of stupid dog tricks happen on

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the other end of it, and they get in. So
this is a desperation the old phrases of the throw
in the kitchen sink game, where everything gets thrown in.
Who cares. We need to win one week at a time.
So that's the reason for the line. That being said,
I don't trust the Cowboys defense right now with the
injuries they have on the line, so I'm going to

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stay away from the spread. If I had to take one,
I would take the Cowboys just because this is one
of those lines that doesn't make sense. But I'm also
going to go the under on this game because if
anyone watched that Chargers game last week, they were surviving
off Justin Herbert running with that recently surgically repaired hand,

(01:06:52):
non throwing hand, but still and he was just converting
third and six, third and eight, third and seven. It
was ridiculous. I don't know that he can replicate that.
But again, that Cowboys defense has banged up. Look for
points to get scored, all right, and uh.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
Again, I mean talk about great matchups and maybe one
you didn't have in your Bengo card when the season started.
But Jaguars and Broncos. Jaguars, who I hate, by the way,
I never did like the Jaguars, really very bunch of
punks only playing. They're a ten win team. They've won
five in a row. Broncos I've won eleven in a row.

(01:07:29):
I think the Jaguars will probably win that that division there.
Broncos maybe the best team in the NFL, A Super
Bowl favorite, if you will, Jason, I'm seeing Broncos minus three.

Speaker 7 (01:07:41):
Yeah, it's really incredible. And what they've what the Broncos
have been able to put together this year, we all
knew watching last year with them get to the playoffs,
that they were on the up, on the uprise, but
this year has just been taken to a whole different level.
The Jaguars, in my opinion, are still a little suspect.
They've got decent running game, they've got a decent defensive front,

(01:08:03):
but beyond that, nothing really stands out that makes you
say wow. So give me the Broncos minus the points here,
and I'm also going.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
To go the over in the game and over by
the way, that's it's forty seven and a half, is
what I'm saying. So some points.

Speaker 4 (01:08:17):
Well, all right, let's talk about well and again I'm
surprised by the Lion in this game Steelers at Lions,
Lions by seven, the last I saw with an over
under of fifty two.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
Big number.

Speaker 7 (01:08:31):
Yeah, the book makers are not impressed by the Steelers. Granted,
they beat Miami pretty handily controlled that game last week
in the cold. As we all know. If it GE's
under forty degrees to a tongue, Bailloa looks like a
peewe football player. But that's what I attribute this to. Also,

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the Lions, which I would have never figured is the case,
are fighting for their playoff lives right now, so this
is an one of those desperation games. The Steelers, meanwhile,
are indecently firm control. They're going to do, I think
is win win. Beat the Ravens in Week eighteen, and
they're in obviously in the playoffs. So give me the

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Lions on the spot. Desperation game. And I don't know
how much longer the Steelers defense can hold up with
the injuries they have, But I like the lines in
this spot.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
All right, Ravens, fresh off of getting their season back
on track at the expense of the Cincinnati Bengals last week,
playing again another one of a red hot team, possibly
a Super Bowl certainly a contender, maybe a favorite in
the Patriots. And how Drake May in his second year

(01:09:46):
has played Patriots at Ravens. I'm seeing Ravens minus three.
What's the story with this line?

Speaker 7 (01:09:53):
This could be one of two things. On either side.
It's either an over action of the collapse that the
Patriots had last week against the Bills. If you remember,
they were up three touchdowns early in that game and
I think to start the third quarter and they just
collapsed at the end of the game and the Bills
pulled it out. Also, the Ravens again coming into Paikhorse

(01:10:17):
Stadium and just giving us slacking to the Bengals. So
I don't like the line here because I initially handicapped
this at Ravens minus one. So I'm going to take
the Patriots to cover Mike Rabel against even when he
was when he was a coach of the Titans against
the Ravens was really good. His defense knows how to

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stop the run, and unlike the Bengals, stopped tight ends
from catching balls all over the middle of a field.
So give me the Patriots here. And I'm also going
to go the under in this game.

Speaker 4 (01:10:46):
All right, the Monday night game. Not much there, the
Niners at the Colts. Minus six for the Niners. I
guess the interest here is watching old man Rivers get
out there and toss her around again.

Speaker 7 (01:10:59):
I'm sorry, did you say not much.

Speaker 19 (01:11:00):
There's the greatest show right now in the NFL. Forty
four year old as he was Samsel dag Gollm Philip
Rivers sink not really flinging it but tossing it as
best he can.

Speaker 6 (01:11:14):
I love it.

Speaker 7 (01:11:15):
I'm all in on this now from a football perspective. Look,
the guy's forty four just came off the couch, admittedly,
and he set himself a bit overweight, didn't even weagh himself,
So I love it. I think that the Niners have
enough injuries on defense. They are another team that's just
suffered a ton this year. They have enough injuries on

(01:11:37):
defense that the Colts keep this close. But that Niners
offense and all the injuries on the Colts defense, I
don't know that Louis Romo can scheme up enough to
hold them back. So give me the forty nine Ers
just run all over the game, all.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
Right, And then the one that matters here in town,
Bengals at Dolphins. At least it won't be freezing. I
don't think Dolphins, from the looks of it, are going
to go different direction at quarterback. No tongue of I
lower they're going to go with quinn Ewers and Dolphins
I don't think are still alive. They're third place in
the AFC. What East. I'm not sure they lost to

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the Steelers.

Speaker 6 (01:12:16):
That was it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
I think that was it too. Yeah, maybe some crazy
scenario math, But how are you seeing this one, Jason?

Speaker 7 (01:12:23):
Yeah, so the Dolphins are out of it as well.
That's obviously the motivation for going to Queen Eewers. The
only thing so two things about this game. When the
line initially came out, it was Bengals minus four and
a half. I was a little surprised. Maybe it's because
of the travel and also an overreaction to how bad
they looked last week, but I thought this was at

(01:12:44):
least a touchdown game to start, and that was before
Tua got benched for quinn Ewers. The one thing that
should scare people about this game is the Bengals against
first time starting quarterbacks. The history and we have adown
on Cincinna dot Com from Dave Clark. The history is
not good. A lot of people will remember recently the

(01:13:09):
game two years ago where Mike White for the Jets
just threw it all over the yard against the Bengals
and the Bengals ended up losing that game. But yeah,
quinn Ewers getting us first start against the Bengals is
one thing. And the other thing that really confused me
in this game was the over under. Last I checked,
I think it was fifty two and a half. Wow.
And my question was are the Bengals going to score

(01:13:33):
forty nine points? Because I don't know that that Dolphins
offense with quinn Ewers is going to put up a
ton of numbers. Again the superstition being first time starters
against the Bengals. But give me the Bengals minus the
points here and give me that under the big number.
Someone in Vegas obviously knows something I don't know. But
the yeah under in the Bengals minus the points and

(01:13:56):
the other thing here, just one prop bet to throw
out for your listener. Joe Burrow to throw two or
more touchdown passes, and Joe Burrow to score a touchdown
a running touchdown, we'll both get you really good money
in the books. So just toss not out there.

Speaker 4 (01:14:13):
All right with that, Jase, We will let you go, buddy,
Thanks so much.

Speaker 7 (01:14:17):
Hey, thanks guys, having merry Christmas.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
And you do the same, buddy, Thanks Chase.

Speaker 4 (01:14:20):
Jason Mahakin from the Inquirer Cincinnati dot Com sports editor.
And that is a big number, Like he said, they're
gonna starting a rookie quarterback and the over under a
fifty two and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
Yeah, you're expecting a big bounce back from Joe Burrow,
which you know maybe is with a lot of the
you know, the angst around the franchise here this week,
that may happen. All right with that, let's check in
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Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
Yes, but before we get out here, ed, there's been
such crazy violence, right, and things that have happened here recently.
You know, you down university shootings and and all that,
and then obviously the Rhiner situation. But you know, it
kind of begs the question why children kill?

Speaker 6 (01:16:27):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
Why children kill their parents? And join us with some
insight on that from ABC as Brad Garrett and Brad
give us some thoughts on how we should you know,
I guess digest some of the stuff.

Speaker 20 (01:16:41):
So if you look at children who kill their parents,
it's like one to two percent of a homicide that
occur in the US in a given year. Now that
doesn't sound a lot, but like a lot, but that
breaks down to about one a day roughly, so it
does happen with some regularity. Now, you know, if you

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look at the numbers as to motive, the larger number
is going to be on kids that are physically, sexually
emotionally abused and they can't take the abuse at longer
and they typically pick up a gun and shoot their parents.
The case in California that I assume you want to
talk about, you know, I don't think it's that profile.

(01:17:24):
I think there's a couple other categories general categories. One
is people that are severely anti social, which may fit
this particular trouble homicide, and the other is severely mentally ill,
which I have to know more, but I'm a client
to think it doesn't fit that classification.

Speaker 6 (01:17:46):
But we'll see.

Speaker 20 (01:17:47):
We just don't know enough. So if you think about
somebody that's older that kills their parents, like in this case,
Nick is thirty two, but you know he's openly talked,
talked about publicly, and they even made a movie about
his addiction. Going back to young teenage years, like fourteen.

(01:18:11):
I think by fourteen he'd been in a number of
drug rehab programs. So you're now talking fifteen years later
when this double homicide occurred, and think about what drugs
have done to the chemistry of your brain. You're now

(01:18:31):
further and further behind because you haven't worked, you don't
have an education, and you know, you're just sort of
lost in life. And the resentment I think builds up
even though you know on some levels you have nothing,
no one to blame it yourself. But you know, people
that are addicted don't think that way. You know, they're's

(01:18:53):
really thinking about how can I sustain my drug a lifestyle,
and so you know, as a result, that's where their
imagy goes, and so to become basically angrier, maybe more paranoid,
have less impulse controled. Some of the chemicals that change

(01:19:13):
in your brain can et exacerbate your ability control impulse,
which you may play into this case and may not.
And so as a result, these kids end up killing
their parents because it's the parents obviously that have put
up with them for all these years, and that's who
they go to for money, for housing, for whatever. And

(01:19:38):
if you add to that acute antisocial thinking that it's
all about me and I don't care about anybody else,
then I'm going to guess here that some event, some
precipitated event, tipped him over the edge that he became
so enraged in his parents that he not only killed
them as the way or supposedly he's been charged, but

(01:20:01):
allegedly he killed his parents by stabbing them that which
is a highly personal crime that involves much more energy
and time and your eyeball, the eyeball the person you're killing.
I mean, it's it's it's an additional step beyond I mean,
the typical twelve year old who's being abused, we'll just
pick up a gun and shoot the parent. Sure, I

(01:20:23):
mean you can kind of understand that on some levels, but.

Speaker 4 (01:20:29):
You know, this is such a trashedy Brad Garrett, crime
and terrorism analyst for ABC. Now, Brad, is it a
situation where sometimes the parents, yeah, you know, you mean, well,
it's you, it's your kid. You're trying to help. But
one of the things that's kind of stuck in my mind.
They took this guy to a fancy Christmas I don't care,

(01:20:52):
it doesn't even manter.

Speaker 1 (01:20:53):
It's a fancy Christmas party.

Speaker 6 (01:20:55):
It was.

Speaker 4 (01:20:55):
It's great, right, It's just what happens. It was with
a bunch of well known people in a very upscale situation,
and they took him along. Now, you had to know
this kid was going to go sideways in the situation.
I don't know, for the life of me, I can't
figure out why you would where you would put that
kid in that kind of a situation knowing pretty much

(01:21:16):
knowing what was going to happen.

Speaker 20 (01:21:18):
Well, I get that, and apparently, according to people have
just read this button. Public source you know, friends of
the family say he's gone sideways in other social situations.
Right now, I don't know if that's true or not,
but it wouldn't surprise me based on what little we know.

Speaker 6 (01:21:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:21:37):
Yeah, but if you think about this from the parents' standpoint,
who careful him deeply, who've been putting up with can
you imagine what their life has been like the last
twenty years in dealing with him day in and day out. Uh,
you know, it would just be unbelievable. But the point
being is that, you know, they may have felt that
if they keep putting it false off, maybe I keep

(01:21:59):
putting in the situations, he will eventually come around. So
maybe that and they didn't feel like they should leave
me at home because at this point he's again living
in their guest house on their property. So maybe some
r chanel of that was part of this. But yeah,
I understand why you would think. It's probably not a
good idea, and it may be what even fired him

(01:22:22):
off more if in fact things happened at this gathering. Yeah,
so you know, we may eventually know that, but we
don't know that. But the short answer is, there usually
is precipitating an event that tend to tip people over
to committee.

Speaker 4 (01:22:41):
With that, Brad, we were going to have to let
you go. We really appreciate you talking to us, man.
Thanks so much.

Speaker 20 (01:22:47):
You're welcome.

Speaker 7 (01:22:48):
Take care, guys, Thanks Brad.

Speaker 4 (01:22:50):
Ah right, well, Rock that that is what it is,
and so much going on right now, right.

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
Yes, before I get out of here, Ed, I saw
this story at was interesting and it's about our neighbors
to the south, Kentucky, a woman who has lived in Kentucky,
and I'm just gonna read it because it's pretty fascinating.
A Kentucky girl who had been missing for forty two
years was recently found alive. Wow, and with a new identity.

(01:23:19):
She also had no idea that she had been kidnapped
and was considered to be missing for over forty years.
So Michelle Mary Newton Michelle Marie Newton excuse me, was
reported missing on April second, nineteen eighty three, when she
was three years old. Turns out she'd been living the
past four plus decades under a fake name, so kind

(01:23:39):
of going through it here. According to the Jefferson County Sheriff,
Deborah Newton relocated from Louisville, Kentucky, to Georgia, She claimed
the move was for a new job and to prepare
a new home for family. Michelle's father, Joseph Newton, remained
behind in Kentucky, thinking he would soon reunite with his family. Instead,
Deborah and Michelle vanished WLKY news that he last spoke

(01:24:03):
to his wife somewhere between nineteen eighty four and nineteen
eighty five.

Speaker 17 (01:24:08):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:24:08):
At one point, Debora was on the FBI's top eight
most wanted list for parental kidnappings. The case against Deborah
was active until two thousand, when it was dismissed because
prosecutors couldn't reach Joseph. In two thousand and five, Michelle
Marie Newton's name was removed from a nationwide missing child
database because at this point, it's like, what are we doing.

(01:24:32):
In twenty sixteen, the case was reopened at the request
of a family member a crime Stoppers tip. I'm trying
to bridge it here. A crime Stoppers tip finally saw
the case after more than forty years, led the authorities
to a retirement community in the Villages. In the Villages
in Florida, Deborah Newton, now identifying as Sharon Neely and

(01:24:54):
with a new husband, was walking her dog and talking
with her neighbor. When deputies arrived at her home, they're
coming for you, Sharon, joke the neighbor. Well, it turns
out that's exactly who they were coming from. Can you
imagine she had she had left and kidnapped her kid
changed her identity, and somehow wound up living in Florida
under an alias for forty years. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:25:15):
I always think about that when you read about people
who have gotten away with rob You know, they go
into deep cover and change their identity exactly like this,
and all of a sudden, one day, twenty years into
your new life, would you? I mean that whole time,
I've always wondered, are you looking over your shoulder?

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
The whole time? It's like it's like in Goodfellas, right
when he gets to the alias, he walks outside and
he's kind of looking around like yeah, yeah. It just
takes you know, some random happenstance where somebody's on vacation
and they're like, ed, what are you doing?

Speaker 8 (01:25:53):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
Seen you in ten years? Like I'm not a.

Speaker 4 (01:25:58):
I'm Frank.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
Yeah, Frank, I'm not the guy you know, not that guy.
These are not the droids you're looking for. That I
feel like you would like if you had to enter
witness protection or something like that, you would constantly be.

Speaker 4 (01:26:13):
I'd be scared to death all the time. That would suck.
You have to go to like you know, Pacific Northwest, right,
you would have to you would have to be literally
a hermit.

Speaker 1 (01:26:25):
Yeah, and live out in the in the sticks in
the bush.

Speaker 6 (01:26:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:26:28):
That's not well any type of existence.

Speaker 4 (01:26:30):
In that kind of your dream to naked in that way.
You could be naked and afraid, living on your own
in a in a shotgun check someplace.

Speaker 6 (01:26:40):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
This is kind of my dream now that you say it, Well,
you don't have to commit a crime.

Speaker 4 (01:26:46):
Leave leave I mean to do something like non violent
rob a bank or something and then the disappear. I
don't kill me kids though, And Kelly, you can be
here somewhere down the road that they'll be walking down.

(01:27:07):
There'll be grown men with their with your grandkids, and
you'll have your hermit beard and all that. You'll have
to get dressed to come to town, though. But you
come up and you're like, I I'm your dude, and
they'll they'll beat you.

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
Up, like that's not true. We're just some drunken hal
Darrel degenerate.

Speaker 4 (01:27:28):
Our mom told us, with that doesn't mind, Let's let's
check in with traffic and weather.

Speaker 1 (01:27:34):
What's going on.
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