The Nightcap with Gary Jeff Walker -- 12/2/25

Gary Jeff Walker talks with Adam Hardage about his book "The Alpha Blueprint" and how younger generations need be warry of Ai, Dan Wos talks all the latest 2nd Amendment news, Corrine Clifford discusses her work in independent journalism, tech tips with Dave Hatter plus sports with Andy Furman!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
But you l w Gary Jeff Walker sitting down checking
in reporting for duty on this Tuesday night. How about
that snow this morning. That'll test your metal and your
driving skills, and people's driving skills were on full display
during morning rush hour and really not that bad. It'll
test the brush, the scraper brush in your back seat too, anyway.

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I mean, the toughest part of this is cleaning off
your car. And please, when you clean off your car
from the snow, get the mountain that's on top of
your car too, so it doesn't pile into somebody else's windshield.
On the interstate, we still see people driving around in
these ig loose It's insane, not just your windows, the

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whole car. It takes a little bit longer, but it's
damn well worth it. As we get into things tonight.
What a mess in the state of Minnesota. It's been
a mess for a long long time. The land of
ten Thousand Lakes and at least a couple million idiots

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who keep on voting for people like Ilan Omar and
Tim Walls. That scandal, the fraud scandal in Minnesota, that
Tim tampon. Tim says he's grabbing by both horns and
throwing people in jail. It's all happened under his watch,
even with warnings from other lawmakers in that state that

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it was going on, and nothing was done. How about
a billion dollars funding Somali terrorist Uh huh, that's what
they're finding out. And even the Democrats are starting to
jump on Governor Waltz now as well as the mainstream
news because nobody wants him on that debate stage in

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twenty twenty eight. Can you imagine if that man had
been elected vice president? On tonight show, we have Corin Clifford,
who is an independent journalist works for SAT one two three,
and we'll get her take on the Tim Waltz Minnesota
scandal and everything else that's going on. On President Trump's
new immigration halts, not just to nineteen countries, He's talked

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about expanding it and kicking some people out of the
country who don't love our country, and we'll find out
what she knows and thinks about that. Adam Hartage a
former CIA operative who has a brand new book called
The Alpha Blueprint, and it's about how to teach your
kids in the next generation about AI and what is

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real and what really matters looking forward, to that, Dave
Hatter with some tech talk before we're done, and the
fur Ball Andy Furman. Plus at the top of next hour.
We'll be repeating Saturday Mornings Rock and Roll Archaeology with
myself and the music professor Jim Lebarber. For those who
missed it, we can't podcast it because of the licensing

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rules for podcasts as opposed to our rules for broadcast.
But if you didn't get it up at the crack
of seven thirty five on Saturday, a chance to hear
Rock and Roll Archaeology, the stories behind the great songs
one more time tonight. The Nightcap continues in Moments with

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Adam Hartage here on seven hundred WLW, The Apple with
Adam here on this show on seven hundred WLW. And
Adam is a former CIAOP officer, and he has written
a brand new book called The Alpha Blueprint, which is
meant to teach the next generation how to cope with

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AI artificial intelligence because in many cases, I mean they
are the generation of AI. They are the generation that
has only known the social media and cell phones and
connectivity like we never imagined when we were kids. And

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there are some daunting issues there obviously, and it's important
for the next generation, your children, your grandchildren to understand
what's real and what's fake. His name is Adam Hartage
and he is back author of The Alpha Blueprint. Adam Hartige.
How are you, sir?

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Thanks so much for having me back.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah, let's let's talk about the book before we get
into anything else. Adam, And we kind of kind of
thumbnail covered it the last time you were on. But
why do you feel like this is an important book
for any parent to have in their possession and to
have this information in dealing with the realities of the

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technology you today?

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, well, I appreciate the question, and I will put
it this way. I think the conversation that parents need
to be having with their kids today like before any others. Frankly,
I think there's this conversation about AI and what it
means for their future. So, I mean, I've got a
ten year old daughter and I've got a seven year

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old son. You know, I looked at them one day
and I thought, well, as a parent, what do I
tell them in ten years? Do I say, Hey, kids,
go to college, you know, get a four year degree,
go work for a fortune. Five hundred company for thirty
years and don't worry, your rop IRA and social Security
will be there for you at the end of the day.
You know, it occurred to me that that world is

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frankly dead and gone and buried. And you've now got
companies that are replacing jobs with robots, and you've got
companies that are shying away from humans in preference of
AI tools, and these are going to be real major
issues that this next generation and the Gen Z generation
who's out there now, so there's years are the kids

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who are around twentieth year or so, and you know
the alphas are you know, the age of my kids
now the newborns call them the ten or so years
old And uh, I mean it's I think that if
a parent is not sitting down, you know, just hoping
hoping that this that this passes em buyer, they think
they can keep their head in the sand, you know,

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if they're not willing to sit down and have these
very challenging conversations with their kids about like, Okay, what
does the future look like for us as a family.
You know, how am I going to teach my kids
to to be able to stay relevant, stay solvent financially solvent, mentally.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Healthy, and all these other things.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
So I looked at that and I said, well, I
think I think the answers to these things, and I
tend to view the world through a Christian lenz and
so I said, I think the answers to these things
kind of tend to go back to more timeless principles
like faith, freedom, fitness, family, you know, foundational principles.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
And then one of the bigger things I harp on
with my kids all the time is I tell them,
you guys are growing up in a world where you
cannot afford to be a liar. So not necessarily even
because your dad doesn't want you to be a liar,
or it's you know, you know wrong, or for moral
reasons or whatever. I said, you cannot be a liar

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because people in your time, when your adults, will crave
truth so much, because the world is completely you know,
meant to pull the wool over their eyes and see them.
I mean, if you look at everything now we have
from you know, the competitive advertising, the government bureaucracies constantly
lie too, I mean, endless conspiracy theories which all turn

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out to be true, you know. I mean, it's how
do you discern truth, and how do you teach your
children how to discern truth and understand fact from fiction?
And so I, you know, to go into some of
the some of the practical stuff. I'm hey, you know
your dad was CIA. I can tell you what to
look for. Here's what the lies, Here's what the mapulation,
here's here's how you can tell when you're being targeted

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or deceived or manipulated. And so I go into some
it's it's really a series of practical field guide type
letters from a concerned father to his kids in the
next generation, saying, you know, these are the things you're
going to have to deal with. So let's get ahead
of this now, because we can't just keep our head
in the sand and expect it. You know, it's not
going to become reality, because it's already here today.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
I think there is a growing skepticism among teenagers any way.
A recent study by the News Literacy Project revealed that
eighty four percent eighty four percent of American teenagers between
the ages of thirteen and eighteen view the news media
negatively describing it as fake and biased. So there are

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there are kids do have a radar about what's real
and it's fake, but it's good to inform them to
be vigilant, as you're doing in the Alpha Blueprint.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
Would you agree with that?

Speaker 5 (09:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Absolutely, And not only that, I mean, I'm I'm very
hopeful or for this next for these next two generations,
both the Ziers and the Alpha kids. I think they're strong.
I think as a group, their ability to sniff out
bs is better than really any group probably in history.
Because like my kids, this was so telling. When my

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daughter was I don't know, three years old or whatever
it was, and she walked up to the television and
she started putting her fingers on it, trying to scroll
scroll the TV, you know, And I'm thinking to myself,
you know, we live out in the country. Our kids
don't have a lot of technology, you know. They they

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have an iPad.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, but but that's that's really about it. They spend
a lot of time playing with their friends, playing outdoors,
playing with the dog, you know, down at the lake,
and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
Supposed to do.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, exactly. But but I thought, wow, if even my
daughter only three years old, already looks at the world
and what she sees is the scrollable screen and she
doesn't understand, you know, even even really how to speak
very much yet at the age of three, but she
knows technology. And so these kids are, you know, growing
up on you know, their fluency level with technology is

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far beyond anything that that people our age, you know,
can can speak to. But what they don't have necessarily
is the moral fiber, the grit, the character, the worldly experience,
the good compass and guideposts to send them, you know,
in the right directions. And that's kind of what the

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book Little More focuses on, is how to build those
kind of core foundational things in your children. So and
a lot of it, you know, comes back to common sense,
good parenting, you know, understanding your place in the world,
and you know, as it relates to the almighty and
high purpose here and turn into you know, some of

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the sort of more timeless, ancient principles that are all
you know, encapsulated in the Big Book.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, I was, I was going to mention Adam that
my wife and I at church this past Sunday. It's
a couple of days ago. It was testimony Sunday, and
one of the people that got up and talked was
a local youth leader and he said and he's in
schools with middle schoolers and high schoolers all the time,

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and he said, it's amazing how many kids are thirsty
for the gospel, how many kids are going back to church,
are interested in learning about Jesus and going to church.
It it really is happening, not only locally, but all
over the country free. And it's not just a reflex

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response to Charlie Kirk. It has been going on for
a while. And you've got to be heartened about that,
because when you want them to be able to distinguish
between what is real and true and what's fake, there's
a few better places to find that out than that absolutely.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Well, you know, and they're so used to being manipulated
and lied to by the media, buy social media. I mean,
you know, it's like a good example is my business
partner recently single was you know, met a girl on
Instagram or whatever. They went on a date and afterwards

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she was like, man, He's like, I can't do this.
He's like, because physically this person looks nothing like you know,
the Instagram profile with all the filters and everything else,
you know, And I'm like, yeah, I mean I get.
That's just one small example, though, but when you're constantly,
you know, when you constantly have that reality shoved at you,

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it makes it so that you can't really trust anything.
And that's why I tell my kids, you know, you
don't have the luxury of becoming a liar, because you
need your kids, your your co cohorts, your colleagues. You know,
as you grow up, will need to know that you
are a person of character and backbone that they can

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turn to and rely on, because you guys aren't going
to have much reality other than physical close human contact
as your community.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
As an EXCIA operative Adam Hartage, what did you make
of the six elected lawmakers, all with intelligence and military ties,
telling troops that they can disobey a commander in chief's
orders if they find that they are illegal. That, I mean,
this is classics. See I am manipulation in other countries.

Speaker 6 (14:02):
Is it not?

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (14:04):
But well also it's so disingenuous, all of it, because so,
I mean, these people aren't idiots, and so first of all,
I found it reprehensible, I feeling it completely unprofessional.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
I found it, uh disgusting and you know, wrong. But
I mean, these people aren't idiots, and so they use
words like okay, you know, it's your duty to to uh,
you know, to refuse an illegal order. Yeah, but then
they kind of imply that Trump's already giving these illegal orders,
and I'm like, well, what is the illegal order? This

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is why you have to unpack all these things. So
because first off, any military officer or any government oath
of office officer, so like I was a CIA operations officer,
there is a federal you know, I take an oath
of office for that. When I was a military officer,
I took an oath of office for that. And anyone

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who is an officer in the government knows that they
has not just the right, but a moral obligation and
a duty to refuse unlawful illegal orders. Everybody knows that right.
But what we're doing is so dishonest because they they
say that, but they're trying to make it seem like

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Trump has already issued all of these illegal orders and
they're going way outside of you know, Uniform Code of
Military Justice or Title fifty year, Title ten or any
of the other you know, legalistic stuff. But it's just
bs and it's designed to manipulate you, pull the wall
over your eyes and get you going. It's rage bait.
It's designed to get people going Trump bad, Orange Man bad.

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You know, he's doing illegal things and constitutions under threat.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
All this other stuff.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
It's disingenuous, it's deceitful, and it's frankly reprehensible. I'm so
tired of the Left constantly putting politics and party over
duty and you know, the right. I'm just I'm sick
of it.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
Yeah, me too.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
The book is The Alpha Blueprint, Preparing the Next Generation
for an AI Future. The author is Adam Hardage, and
I loved what you said. Is the first thing you
tell your kids is make sure you're not a liar,
because liars abound everywhere and you don't want to be

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known that way.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
Adam, Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Go ahead, No, no, I was just yeah, yeah, I
mean that way. You keep your keep your keep your
fund family, keep them close. You know, I'll always be honest.
Leave from the front.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
So yeah, all right, pick up the book, The Alpha Blueprint. Adam,
Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Oh, thank you so much. Having wonderful have a wonderful week.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
God bless all right, Uh, we'll switch gears and Danny
was my second amendment friend will join us right afternoons,
which is next on the Nightcap on seven under W
l W. He is again first time after a long time,
and it's been too long in my opinion, but that's
probably my fault. Is the guy who has been shining

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a beacon of light on American freedom and liberty and
the Second Amendment, the blessed Second Amendment of our United
States Constitution in the Bill of Rights for over a decade.
He is the author of the Good Gun, Bad Guy
series of books.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
He is a.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Former well a former non gun owner kind of guy
who got hip to the truth and has been leading
the charge for our freedom ever since.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
Dan was is back on the Nightcap.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
How you doing, Danny, Gary Jeff Hey, great, Great to
be on your show as always and doing good.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
Great to have you back.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Thanksgiving Okay, everything go well with the family and everything.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Yeah, I ate way too much and now this whole
week it's nothing but salad.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
I don't know if I've gone that dramatically, you know,
backwards in my diet since Thanksgiving, but I will tell
you this, I did not want another bite to eat.
We ate at noon and we didn't eat anything the
rest of the day because dude, I was stuffed.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
It was great.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
So here we are, And I kind of ask you
this every year. But if you've got somebody on your
Christmas list first and foremost who was interested in being
a first time gun owner, or you have a gun
owner on your list, do you have any recommendations?

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Well, you know, this is a tough one because everybody
is a little bit different. You know, when I started out,
I started with an LCP three eighty, which was, in
my opinion, not a good gun to carry if you're
new to carry. There's there's the shield, and there's some
other smaller, you know, compact nine milimeters guns that are

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usually pretty pretty good. But I hate to do a
recommendation because you know, it depends on how you're gonna
carry and carry in your waistband, you're gonna carry in
your ankle, you're gonna carry in your purse. You know,
a lot of things are different. So I would recommend
go to your local gun shop.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
And just testing out handle them.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yeah, you know what I mean, check them out and
see which ones you like and do you want a
mechanical safety or not. You know, a lot of different variables,
so it's hard to really make a recommendation. But there
are a lot. I mean, there's no limit on the
models out right now. It's just unbelievable. You have your
your choice of all sorts of stuff. It's really a

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great time for handguns.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
I know that in your work with a Good Gunbadguy
dot Com with amal Land that you do some writing
for them and you do all kinds of stuff on
video on YouTube.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
The Loaded Mic show, is that still going on?

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah, we're doing Loaded Mic every week. We're getting ready
for a big Christmas special, which is a lot of fun.
We bring in Charlie Cook and John Pech you know,
good friends of ours also in the Second Amendment world,
so they come down, they come up to our studio
in New York and we have a blast. But Loaded
Mike is still going. It's actually we just got on
a new network called Spreely, the Spreely Network, which is

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bringing us tons and tons of new fans and viewers.
So if you want, go to Loadedmike dot com.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
And check that out.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
But yeah, the show is great. We're having a blast
with it.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Good deal, good deal. Did you see the news story?
I saw this somewhere on late night news and I
thought it was a joke at first, but then I
realized that we're dealing with a country that's barely a
country anymore, England. This guy was on vacation in the
United States, this brit and he was in Florida and

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he posted a picture on social media of him holding
a rifle and he was arrested when he got back
home for inspiring fear, for holding an illegal firearm. He
wasn't even in country. He was in the United States.
And did you hear about this?

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah I did.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
And you know what's interesting if you look at this
conceptually or you know, ideologically, the Brits they are deadly
afraid of their citizens having firearms because they remember what
happened in the Revolutionary War. They tried, they tried to

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take control, but it was the people over here who decided, no,
we're not going to let you do it, and we
kicked their ass. And the reason we did it was
because we had firearms. So they will do everything they
can deter positive any positive, you know, thing about about

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firearms or guns or anything. So I'm not surprised that
they did it. I mean, it's it is shocking on
one level. It's like, how the heck are we, where
do we? How do we do this? This is just
so controlling and so but over there, I'm not surprised
because they The worst thing that could happen to them
right now, the government that is, is their people get power,

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because what's happening right now is are getting overloaded with
it with Islam, yes, radical Islamist, and they're taking over
and and they they desperately want their the citizens, the
good people, to be disarmed so they can have more
control over them.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
It's it's turning into a hell hole over there from
what I can see, and it's just a it's a
sad place when you can't defend yourself.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
It's that unfettered open border kind of mentality. Immigration that's
been going on in the UK for quite some time now.
You know, the mayor of London is is is Islamic
and has you know, talked about Sharia law.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
Being the law of the land.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
And you have all these Islamis that are now have
migrated and they want complete control over the population. And
you know what, that's that's part of the disarmament move
as you just mentioned. The other part of it is
that they don't have apparently any kind of protection in

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their own law to keep this from happening, from from
the government being an absolute answer no matter what the
people actually want. That's what you get. You know, it
used to be the monarchy. It used to be the monarchy.
Now it's parliament that has adopted the same kind of
We are the kings, we know better than the peasants

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and the serfs, so we will overlord you. And like
you said, the Islamists have taken charge of that government.

Speaker 7 (24:11):
Any thoughts, Well, yeah, I mean that's the way it's
always been. The one thing that they hate is, you know,
people like us who said now I'm not going to
deal with it anymore. You're done, and took took three
percent of the population to to take care of business
and become free, break away, you know, and become free.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
They don't want that.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
They love that control. That's that's what that's that's what
they're all about about.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Well, and it's the same it's the same thing here
with people who oppose your right to own and bear firearms. Dan,
And we've got to be constantly vigilant that we do
not become that society that we fought a bloody revolutionary
war to break away from. And it's it's a battle
that you guys and gun owners of America and the

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rest of us who believe in our constance, in the
Bill of Rights are fighting every day we.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
Have we're fighting.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
We're fighting against fellow citizens, Democrats, liberals, progress as we're
fighting against them. Yeah, they're the ones who are trying
to take away I write, that's the most astonishing thing.
It's hard to If I wasn't right in the middle
of it, it would be I would look at it
and go, what's wrong here? What are these people crazy?
They want to give up our freedom and they know

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that we real Americans won't let them, and they hate that.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Well, let me ask you this. In the upcoming governor's
race you're in New York does does anybody on the
right does Stephanic, at least Stephanic have a legitimate chance
to beat Kathy Hogle in this governor's race in twenty
sixth And what do you.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Think when I see local doubtlets, local media outlets say.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Local still holds a lead. H They say this a lot.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
And when I when I see that, I recognize it.
When they were talking about Hillary Clinton in the general
in the general election, they were saying she's still ahead,
she's still ahead, she's still in what happened. But so
they need their people to feel good. You remember Democrats
and the liberals, they need to be coddled, they need
to be they need to feel good. So they're always

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saying locals in the league. But there's been some polls
where Stephanic is showing that she's neck and neck. So
I have a good idea that she Stephani could actually
take this one because Lee's elden last time around came
really close. But I I wouldn't put it past the

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New York legislature to to make to do some cheating.
You know that you never trust trusted Democrats when it
comes to that. But so to summarize, the Democrats are saying,
the left wing media is saying the hope will still
in the lead, but there's some polls coming out this
shows disgusted on.

Speaker 6 (27:05):
Neck and neck.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Well, and this is what happens when you get a
governor who at first blush in the first allyed what
wasn't even elected, was just appointed appointed, appointed.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
By by Cuomo, and uh then then.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
You know she and then let me just have been there.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
Gary.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
I'm sorry to interrupt you. But then the next time around,
she she barely won.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
And we're talking about a.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Democrat majority here, a supermajority in all, and she barely won,
but she did have the Democratic machine behind her, which
is why she she pulled it off the second time.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, no doubt about that. Well, what's going on with
the gun laws as we look to the new year?

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Dan?

Speaker 4 (27:50):
What uh? What battles?

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Are you guys ready to fight to keep people free?

Speaker 7 (27:57):
Well, we we want right now.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
The HR thirty eight, which is the Constitutional Concealed Carry
Reciprocity Act. That means you'll be able to take your
gun regardless of the state you come from, and travel
in and out with your concealed carry gun in any
state right in the nach and you will be bound

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by the same you know, concealed carry restrictions of your state,
your home state, just like your driver's license. And that's
what we really want. And you know, people say, well,
we don't, We shouldn't have a permit at all, and
I totally agree.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
But this is a good.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Step until we can get ourselves to a place where
we can have constitutional carry, which is what our founding
fathers always wanted. Constitutional carry. There would be no government
issue permission slip needed.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Well, I mean they can't even they can't even vote
to keep the government open. How are they, Oh, you're
expecting in Congress to pass something that makes so much
sense when they can't even fully fund themselves with our money.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
You do make it sound ridiculous, I know, but I
have high hopes.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
And the bill again is HR.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
HR thirty eight.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Keep your eye on that one, Hi.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
Just remember thirty eight caliber HR thirty eight.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Are they still going crazy trying to impose red flag
laws across the country?

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Dan? Oh, of course, red flag laws are.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Red flag laws are something that they would just love
to have. And I hear Democrats all the time talking
about it. Red flag law is probably the most dangerous
thing you could you could have because basically it's confiscation
without due process. And anybody with red flag laws typically
the accuser can be practically anyone and sometimes anonymous, which

(29:50):
is scary. So of course they want that. That way,
they can, you know, say, oh, well, if they don't
get j Walker, he's a he's a risk to society,
but don't get his guns, and then we'll figure it
out later.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
I don't know if they could actually say I'm a
risk to society. They used to say I was a
risk to myself, which was probably true.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
What are you.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
But I'm sorry, what what are you working on right now?

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Right now? Yeah, right now, I'm doing a thing.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
I'm concerned right now with gun free zones, and it's
becoming pretty bad across the country. Different states where you know,
there's there's laws right now. In New York, for instance,
there's a law you know, it still says that you
have to put a sign up to welcome guns rather
than a sign up, you know, to turning them. So

(30:46):
it's called the vampire rule. We call it the vampire rule,
and it means that in order to bring a gun
into a publicly a publicly accessed private business, you would
have to have written permission, in other words, sign on
the on the business saying the guns are welcome. That's
that's the vampire rule, you know. Vampires. The theory is

(31:08):
a vampire couldn't come into your home unless you invited
them in.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
It's one of my favorite, one of my favorite lines
from the movie Lass Boys.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Oh yeah, well exactly, Well that's what they're you know,
that's what they're trying to do with firearms, and nobody's
got to put us sign ups saying guns are welcome,
because if they do, they're they're going to be afraid
of you know, left wingers. You know, you know, uh,
Molotov cocktail in their business.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Or or you know, right, I said guns were welcome,
not molotov cocktails.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
You commys.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
So that's one thing that I'm concerned with right now
is red flag laws. And you want HR thirty eight,
and we want our d OJ and Pam Bond to
get on board with the removing short barrel rifles, short
brow shotguns, and silencers from the National Firearms Act because
ultimately it's a registry. It's a gun registry, and we

(32:04):
obviously don't want that because once the guns are registered,
and then you have red flag laws, you have the
access now to confiscate guns and you know exactly where
they are. So those are two things that really concern
me right now.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
And the thing is when these red flag laws take
effect and they compensate your gun, you've got to wage
a long court battle just to prove that you're not
a threat to anybody, and so you're out of pocket
that money paying for a lawyer and going to court,
and then you still may not get your gun back.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
And you want a little statistic on that, I think
it's about eighty five percent of the people who get
caught up in those red flag laws do not fight
it because they who don't have the time or the
money or the will.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
It's a damn shame. All right, Dan Walls, thank you
so much.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Good Gunbadguy dot com still a good place to find you.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Oh yeah, yep, gunback dot com.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
All right, fantastic.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Danny was Second Amendment hero on the Nightcap back in
just a moment. It's always nice to have this young
lady on. We only have really talked to her once before,
and then I really couldn't talk to her because it
was election day and she had absolutely lost her voice.

(33:23):
But she is in full throated glory now. Independent journalist
Karen Clifford. She covers a lot of things. She covers
the whole gamut, from politics to natural disasters and emergencies.
She herself lost so much in the Palisades Park fire
in California, so she knows of natural disasters and emergencies.

(33:48):
And she also was a big fan of SAT one, two, three,
dot com. But Karen is with us now to talk
about Informed News Network, which she founded this year. And
I think it's really laughable that a journalist has to
have found the Informed News Network because I see so

(34:10):
many so called journalists every day on TV and elsewhere
who simply don't act like they know anything. They're not
informed on anything. They just parent talking points that have
been sent out by whatever their powers at V are
Krin Clifford. Welcome to the Nightcap.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
How are you?

Speaker 8 (34:28):
I am so grateful to be with you today. It
is basically snowing in Washington, DC. It's about thirty degrees
out and it is freezing at the White House yesterday.
My toes FROs, my fingers FROs. So I am so
excited to get the truths to the public because there
is so much uninformed news in the White House Press Corps,

(34:51):
in the Senate Press Corps, and now the Pentagon. The
Pentagon has created a whole new press corps which is
super exciting. Tons of my life friends who are real journalists,
like James O'Keefe and Laura Luma, and they have the
most amazing press corps now with cam Higbee and so
what the Pentagon is doing. I think is super critical

(35:15):
to happen for every agency in Washington, DC because there
is so much fake news. As a matter of fact,
you and I were discussing the fout that the White
House now has a whole website on white House dot
com that exposes the fake news.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
Yep, yeah, it's about time.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
And you mentioned mister O'Keefe, it's nice to have Project
Veritas not have to go undercover. Now they can be
out in the open and actually give people the information
that most of us want. There was a new study
out that showed that a majority of young people and
not voters, but thirteen to eighteen year olds, don't trust

(35:56):
the news media. I mean a majority of kids just
think that it's all fake and biased. So even they
know what has been going on in our news media
in this country, cared.

Speaker 8 (36:10):
Yeah, And that's what I'm really concerned about because I'm
actually in the White House Press Corp. And yesterday I
actually was confronted by a couple of the fake news journalists.
I don't want to say their names, but the bottom
line is, you know, one of them's with the independence
that the White House is exposing to be fake news,
and you know, they are saying crazy stuff, saying President

(36:33):
Trump is preasoners. They're saying things like, you know, Pete
Headsets doesn't have the right to bomb the drug boats.
I mean, it's getting ridiculous at this point.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
These are journalists saying this.

Speaker 8 (36:48):
They're saying a lot of fake news, and the Trump
administration is actually beginning to expose them. Yeah, and so
I think that's good for all of us because everyone
who pays their cable bill and they paid for these
news agencies where they paid for these these news memberships. Okay, Politico,
one of my best friends is suing Politico for one

(37:11):
hundred and fifty million dollars because Politico wrote fake news
about him. Another one of my friends is having.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
To sue President Trump. Had to sue.

Speaker 8 (37:21):
President Trump, had to sue CBS, President Trump had to
sue YouTube. I mean, it's never ending with the fake news.
So where are these news narratives coming from. That's what
I'm concerned about. Potentially a lot of these news nerdalists
and a lot of these news narratives are people who
are real Democrats, people who are real Antifa type liberals,

(37:43):
and or being paid for their news narratives. But I'm
really worried that there's still is CIA mockingbird media because
this is what I'm worried about. I go to all
the press conferences, I'm in the White House pretty much
every day. There's fifty five seats. Who's actually in those
fifty five seats? New media like me, we have to
stand on the sides. So what I'm concerned about is

(38:05):
in those fifty five seats, I rarely see the same
people show up. That's what I'm worried about. So every
time there's a new person in one of these fifty
five seats, that means that there is someone creating their
news narrative and telling them what to say. Their questions
are too calculated. Oh so there is a very dangerous

(38:27):
component to the news and I do believe it. How
to do with the CIA mockingbird media that President Trump
hasn't been able to fire yet. The head of the
CIA requip we haven't fired these people yet, and I
don't know why.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
Well, it's such an entrenched administrative state. I mean, people
talk about the deep state and the swamp carenn but
it is real. It has been around entrenched in Washington,
d C. Unelected bureaucrats and people who want to wield
that power without any kind of accountability or responsibility to
the voter, which the Constitution doesn't call for a fourth

(39:03):
branch of government, but that's exactly what it is, and oftentimes, sadly,
it is more powerful than the judicial, the legislative, or
the executive branch. And it's been there entrenched for a
long long time. You can't root that out in a
few months time. But President Trump and the White House

(39:23):
have been absolutely efforting to do that.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
I would, I will, that's what we're fighting.

Speaker 8 (39:29):
And listen, they have found a way to fund themselves
with government grants. So the real news is that these
news agencies have found ways to cover themselves. Like NPR, PBS,
Political they get government grants. Politico is owned by a
very wealthy globalist in Germany. It's not America. First, it's
not American. They don't care about America. And so we

(39:51):
really need to weed this stuff out, like the Pentagon
has just done in their press corps.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Well, when the taxpayers of Minnesota give a bill million
dollars to a terrorist organization in Somalia, you know you
know that again, that's something that is just now being reported.
It's been going on de facto. For the entire seven
years of Tim waltz tenure as governor of Minnesota, there

(40:19):
have been twenty eight at least twenty eight large fraudulent
thefts of taxpayer money in the name of charity in
Minnesota since he's been governor.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
Can you imagine if that man was Vice president.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
I wanted to switch gears Corin and talk about as
we're talking about the uninformed news network and the people
who are just parroting narratives for globalist and Marxist means
in the White House, press corps and elsewhere. This Venezuela
drug boat hoax that is now going around and you

(40:58):
know something about this, are trying to pit the Secretary
of War Pete Hegseth against the commander in chief, Donald Trump.
You can talk to that for a few moments, if
you would please.

Speaker 8 (41:10):
I'm very concerned about that, because that's what these news
media agencies that are fake news potential CIA deep state
potential agencies that are run and funded by foreign governments
that we don't even know where understand, like Politico. Basically,
what they're trying to do is pit President Trump against
his actual cabinet members. Right now, as you and I

(41:33):
are talking, President Trump is having a cabinet meeting. Because
this is what they're trying to do. They try to
get in between President Trump and as cabinet members. They
try to get in between President Trump and his core
base of America first patriots and make them fight with
each other. And you know, they're accusing President Trump of

(41:54):
who knows treason. I mean, this is ridiculous. President Trump
is totally within his legal authority to protect us in
the United States of America, and everything he's doing is
protecting us America first.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
Of course.

Speaker 8 (42:07):
So I'm very concerned about this, and I'm grateful that
you're letting me talk to you about this because this
is the most in banned and censor news and you know,
a lot of Americans just can't handle this, and so
they just watch the news. It's easy to get to,
but it's really time to pick and choose the news
that you watch, and it's getting few and far between.
I can tell you that the people that I trust

(42:29):
in the news are under twelve, potentially ten people and
it's not the people you would think. So it's and
it changes every month because people are just selling out
and I'm just very concerned. I'm worried that a lot
of the state news is funded by foreign interests, potentially
the Chinese Communist Party.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Oh, there's no question that the CCP has a vested
interest in infiltrating and in indoctrinate not only the media
but the American public for their own personal gain and
their efforts that have gone on now for more than

(43:11):
one hundred years to be the dominant power on the
world stage. I wanted to talk to you too about
what happened sadly Thanksgiving with our National Guardsman Sarah who
was murdered and her other fellow National Guardsman from West

(43:33):
Virginia who has been clinging to life in the hospital,
and this Afghani who was let in by the Biden
administration in the wake of the withdrawal from Afghanistan, and
the thousands of others who came with him, who the
CIA says, we're thoroughly vetted, and he had been well

(43:54):
known to the CIA and helped them for years in Afghanistan,
so they felt like he was no threat to come
to America and have a life that maybe he was
promised by those CIA operatives and this guy, there's no
way that they could have vetted eighty six thousand people,

(44:15):
especially coming from Afghanistan. And that's why President Trump has
been so vigilant and vehement about stopping halting all immigration
from all of these countries where they don't love America,
they don't love American or Western values, and they you know,
the places where there's basically no government whatsoever to even

(44:39):
tell you who these people are.

Speaker 8 (44:42):
Very concerning because I was there actually and I got
stuck in a lockdown. We got locked down at the
White House, and we didn't know what was going on.
And I was fully prepared because let me just tell
you something, I walk around with a bullet priest pack
and a satellite phone, and I walk around with my

(45:03):
important things like keys and critical credit cards, government IDs
in a Faraday bag.

Speaker 6 (45:11):
And that's what's so.

Speaker 8 (45:12):
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(45:32):
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actually felt safe in this situation I know that sounds crazy.
It was really traumatic and I was there and I
got caught up. They closed everything off, and first they
told me that the two National Guards people were from Alabama,
and they first they told me they were both dead.

(45:52):
So in the beginning I didn't have right information because
the police are known to give us fake information. And
then I couldn't stay there until Cashpetel started telling us
the real information. There was so much conflicting information, which
I think is really important people understand that. And so now,
of course you know the twenty year old National Guards women,
they're from West Virginia. She has passed. And the other gentlemen.

(46:15):
I don't even like to say his name, but pray
for him in spirit because he's fighting for his life.
I don't think he'll make it. Even if he does
make it, it's a tragedy. But thank you God that no
one else got sot in the soft fire, because since
I have been to the location and the Afghan national
was using some type of a handgun and there were

(46:38):
lots of bullets everywhere. It wasn't just one or two
or three.

Speaker 4 (46:42):
Arm was shooting.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
Karin, thank you so much for your time. Ours is
UPSat one two three dot com. Let's get that in
again for your safety in times of emergency or in
the times we live in. I appreciate it and keep
up the good work.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
Karin. Thank you, so God.

Speaker 8 (46:58):
Bless you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
Petere Hedy December two, twenty twenty five. Joining us now
for this half hour is a guy that I've been
talking to for eons now it seems about the Internet
of things world in which we live, AI chat, GPT, hoaxes,
things to watch out for on your cell phone, and
anything else he can think of that has called from

(47:22):
today's tech headlines. And because of his warnings and admonitions
to me and to you through the years, I've fended
off another attack over the weekend. Dave Hatter from Interest
It is here also the mayor of fort Wright.

Speaker 4 (47:40):
By the way, were you were you.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Manning the snowplows this morning? Dave and fort Wright?

Speaker 6 (47:47):
Well and always Gary Jeff, thanks for having me on.
And no, I was not managed to snow plows this morning.
We have a crack team and our three person public
works department and some other folks that come in to
get the job done.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
When you say crack team, are you speaking to their
acumen or their addictions their acumen. Okay, okay, very very good.
So first and foremost, I wanted to tell you. I
think I did call you over the weekend telling you
how proud I was that I'd learned from all of
your tutelage about phone calls. I got a phone call

(48:24):
at nine o'clock on Friday night and i'm you know,
I'm ready to go to bed to get ready for
Saturday morning. And it's a US Bank, so they said.
And it was even the number that I use to
contact US Bank, the eight hundred number that came up

(48:45):
on my phone and said US Bank. So I answered it,
and the voice on the other end said, good afternoon.
I said, well, it's even if you were on the
West coast, it's not afternoon anymore. Okay, who's this? Well
it's evening, thank you sir, Well, good evening. Then this

(49:05):
is US Bank fraud Security. Do you know someone named
Blah Blah blah in Florida? And did you issue a
twenty five hundred dollars payment to them through your account?
I said no, I don't know anybody in Florida not
with that name. And I didn't. That's not me Okay, well,

(49:27):
we just want to verify. We need the last four
digits of your social Security number just to verify. I said, no,
you're not getting the last four digits of my social
Security number or any other information for me. By that
way over the phone, I did the right thing.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
Right, Dave, you did?

Speaker 6 (49:46):
You did, Cary, Jeff, And you know, I've had a
similar type of scenario. I want to come back to yours.
But like in my case, my wife and I are
sitting on the couch. She gets a phone call from
purportedly from USAA, that's who we bank with. There's some
kind of fraud on your account, blah blah, blah blah.
And I'm like, okay, this is some kind of scam.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
Hang up.

Speaker 6 (50:06):
And you know, then we went and logged into our account,
checked to make sure everything was okay, went ahead and
changed our paths where it just to be safe. But
one of the reasons why this thing is prevalent, right is,
first off, it's really easy to spoof a phone number.
It takes almost zero technical skill to send a text
or make a phone call and make the number that

(50:26):
appears on the recipient's phone any number I want it
to be. You know, the phone system is old. It's
been around for over one hundred years. When it was designed,
it was not designed to stop this sort of spoofing, right,
so it's trivially easy for bad guys to make a
call appear from any number. So you know, my typical
advice is never answer the phone from a number you

(50:47):
don't recognize if it's important to leave a message. But understand,
even if you recognize the number, like in your case,
it does not mean it's legit, and people really really
need to take that the heart first off. So you know,
if you see a number come across and it looks
like a familiar number, year you trust it and you
answer the phone, which you know in that case, I
could understand why you would. Then you have got to

(51:10):
be immediately incredibly skeptical understand that in many cases, So
is it random chance that you just happened to get
a call from your bank quote unquote? Maybe you know
in some cases these sorts of phishing attacks. Now, in
text messages it's called smishing, and in voice calls it's
called fishing, but it's all basically the same idea. I'm

(51:31):
just going to blast stuff out there, right, Some of
these phishing attacks are just random. They're just blasting stuff
out and you know, hoping that you won't question that
that's I don't use this bank. Right, but thanks to
all of the giant data leaks and data breaches we've
had over the years, national public data, for example, billions
of records lost. It's a background check company. Think about

(51:53):
the sense of information you put out there in a
background check. Places you've worked, places you've lived, places you've banked,
all kinds of sensitive stuff. Right, So when the hackers
have access to that information, they can know, hey, when
we send this text or when we make this call
to this Gary Jeff Walker guy, he uses this bank.
This bank's phone number is X. So it is entirely

(52:17):
within the realm of possibility that it's not just random
chance they hit your bank. They're using information that they
have bought, stolen, etc. From all these leaks to target you.
They know you use a certain bank, they know you
use Amazon or whatever. The scam is. Right, So if
you know that the phone number is easily spoofed, just
like an email address is easily spoofed, and and you

(52:39):
know they have all this sensitive information so they can
claim to be from bank x oh, and yeah, they
might even know like, well, you bank a branch such
and such. Just because you're talking to someone that seems
to have information that only that legitimate entity has does
not mean they're legit. And as the FBI says, I'm
reading directly from their know that legitimate companies will never

(53:02):
call you.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
And offer tex support out of the blue. If you
get a call like this, hang up right. Never let
someone have remote access to your computer. Never get out
your credentials, especially if it's financially rate. If you're using
name of password, it's financially related, because they're going to
get into your account and lock you out and steal
your money. And getting back now to this Apple angle,

(53:23):
So Forbes recently reported on this now and this is
not an Apple specific problem, but there are sophisticated attacks.
They've been done to Google users. They're now targeting Apple users.
Where you get a phone call, or you might get
a text message with like an MFA code, and then
Apple is suddenly calling you on the phone.

Speaker 6 (53:41):
Right, it'll probably show up with a number that looks
like it's from Apple. This is the tax support scam idea.
You know, once they get into your Apple account, Could
they get into your bank account?

Speaker 3 (53:50):
Could they do?

Speaker 6 (53:51):
Who knows what? Hard to say. A lot of people
have the same bad shared passwords. Don't have the MFA
turned on. If you get a call, Apple has very
clearly said they will not call you like this, right.
Google has said will not call you like this. Microsoft
has said they will not call you like this. If
you get a call like this, chance it's a scam,

(54:13):
it's probably enough, yes, and then you go. If you're
worried about it, you go, log into your Apple account,
log into your Google account, log into your Microsoft account,
log into your bank account. Do not click the links,
do not call the numbers, do not take the bait.

Speaker 4 (54:29):
Now, it's it's just as simple as that.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
It's bogus because they've already told you they're not going
to call you regardless.

Speaker 4 (54:39):
So I mean, you just you're right.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
You just got to be vigilant and be aware that
this stuff is going on, and that's why we're here
talking about it. Child safety advocates warned parents to avoid
avoid AI toys this Christmas. We kind of talked about
the Teddy Bear describing sexual fetishes and the like.

Speaker 4 (55:02):
This is an extension of that, is it not.

Speaker 6 (55:06):
It is Gary, Jeff. I mean it's the idea that
I mean. First off, as we've discussed before, Internet are
things devices aka smart devices, which includes toys children's toys,
have been a concern for some time. I mean the
literality is probably going back more than ten years that
you don't have to look too hard to find all
kinds of privacy and security flaws in these children's toys

(55:28):
that connect to the Internet, whether it's you know, known vulnerabilities,
whether it's recording that you don't understand. Because keep in mind,
many of these toys have cameras and microphones in them,
because that's how you interact with them, right. You know,
we've seen stories over the years of web cameras getting
packed and weird people talking to people's kids for these things.
If you have a toy that can connect to the internet,

(55:50):
you know, ask yourself, did the toy manufacturer focus on
the privacy and security of this device and of my
children playing with it? Or do they focus on things
like market share, speed to market, and ease of use?
And you know, that's that's my issue with the so
called smart devices across the board is as a consumer,
they are not focused on their privacy and security. They

(56:11):
are not focused on protecting you. They're focused on selling
as much of these things, many of these as they can,
to as many people as possible, making it as easy
to use as possible so people will use them, and
then collecting as much data as possible to you know,
further monetize your data. So when you give your kid
a toy like this, again, forget the AI piece for
a minute, just right off the bat, you know, do

(56:34):
you did you change the default password? Do you know
how to set it up for software updates so that
eventually there's not a vulnerability in the kid's toy that
allows hackers to get into your home or office network
and do much more nefarious things. Then you throw in
the AI angle. I mean, you and I have talked
about this before. It's well documented if you go look,
you know, there's all kinds of issues with AI making

(56:56):
people lose their minds, AI telling people to do crazy things.
In this specific Teddy Bear story where a researcher was
purposely trying to see what it would do, and you know,
was asking questions about like hey, where can I get NDS?
And the AI in this thing told the kids like, oh,
they're usually in the kitchen and such so as a
cautionary tale. Now, you know, my kids are not of

(57:17):
an age where this would matter anymore, and I don't
have any grandkids yet. But I'm sure you know what
I'm going to say next, which is, there's absolutely no chance,
no chance I would give my young children or my
grandchildren any kind of AI internet connected toy. Do you
understand what it's recording when it's recording? Do you want

(57:39):
your kids' conversations to be sucked up, analyzed, sold to
someone else, or conversations you might be heaving with your
kids that you don't understand are being recorded. Do you
really want your kid exposed to some AI bot that's
telling them who knows what without any real oversight over it?
Like you could at least have on a computer or
a tamphlet or something. In my mind, and there is

(58:01):
just no way you could justify getting a young child some.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
Sort of toile like this, no doubt.

Speaker 6 (58:08):
Stay away from these things, or at least at least
do your research and vet them.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Carefully, care more more carefully than probably some of the
Afghanis were vetted when they came into the country. Dave
Hatter is with us for another quick segment. We'll come
back and talk about SMB's what they are and how
they can protect you this holiday shopping season.

Speaker 4 (58:32):
And we just had cyber Monday yesterday.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
Dave Hatter on the Nightcap back in just a moment
our it Guy Tech Talk Doomsday. Dave with the aluminum
foil hat securely placed on his head so the aliens
cannot read his thoughts. Dave, what are SMBs and this
is some kind of layered security, but I don't know

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much about it. And how can SMBs so called protect
you this holidays season from cyber threats?

Speaker 6 (59:05):
Yeah, so they're what they're talking about here. This is
an article from a chief security officer online, and they're
they're warning small businesses, small medium businesses, that's what they
mean by S and D in this case, are always
under attack because they typically don't have the deep pockets,
they don't have the resources, they don't have the experienced
team that larger companies have to depend against this and

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also normally during any kind of holiday extended off time,
you're going to see increased attacks on businesses. You know,
what bad guys like to do is assuming they can
get a foothold in your environment, whether that's somehow they
find a vulnerability in your firewall or some smart IoT
device that's not set upright, or they just are able
to compromise someone's identity right, they're able to guess the

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username and password or get a user name of password
up the dark web, they get in and in many cases,
if they're going to drop ransomware, which is you knowftware
that encrypts your data to shuts your systems down and
then you have to pay to unlock it, and they
usually steal the data too. So when you say, oh, hey,
I listened to Old Dean's Day Dave Hatter, I got
a good backup. I don't need to pay your ransom

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because I can just wipe my systems in the store
and go on about my business. Then they'll threaten to
release your data online unless.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
You pay right.

Speaker 6 (01:00:19):
It gives them extra leverage to extort you even if
you're not down because of the ransomware. So what they
like to do is wait till a holiday weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
You know, if you.

Speaker 6 (01:00:28):
Have a three day weekend coming up, if they can
launch their attack let's say on a Friday night, knowing
no one's going to be back in the office until Monday.
They can inflict maximum damage. Right there's no one paying attention.
They can hit the maximum amount of systems. They can
inflict maximum damage, thus increasing the likelihood you're going to pay.
So this article is basically saying, hey, it's a small business,

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you need to understand these things. They got an interesting
static here small and medium sized businesses. Twenty nine percent
of businesses with fewer than twenty five employees and nearly
one in five mid size businesses have or have experienced
a ransomware attack in twenty five nineteen percent of them. Sorry,
that didn't come out very clear, And again, ransomware can

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be an existential threat. If you don't have good backups
and you don't pay the ransom where they decide not
to give you the decryption key, well, your systems are
just wrecked. And you know, can you survive that hard
to say. But the point they're going to make also
is Windows ten with end of life, which means no
more security updates for Microsoft, and they're saying you need
to take a multi tiered approach. You want technological tools

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in place, things like anti virus, email spam filtering, DNS filtering,
to try to block the bad guys. You want training
in place so that your team is aware of the
kind of threats they're going to face, like phishing and
social engineering and sense worth. And then you need systems
in place so that if and when an event does
occur you do have a successful cyber attack, you can

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contain it and re cover quickly from it. Where the
minimum downtime the minimum costs to you. I mean, this
is the stuff we're to preach in every day as
a business Cary Jess. You know, there's nothing you can
do to make yourself your business completely impervious to this stuff,
but there are things you can do focused on risk
to make your business a much and frankly yourself a
much more difficult target. You know, as.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Especially with a small business. H It's it's hard to
The reason you have these systems in the first place,
is it it makes it easier for you to run
with the skeleton crew of people, a small amount of people.
But if it would be practical and you can fairly
easily do it, isn't it good to have a hard

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copy backup of all the important stuff that you've got.

Speaker 6 (01:02:47):
Uh, certainly, you know one of the things that's interesting.
You know, I recommend every business have an incident response plan,
an ideally cybersecurity insurance. Ay, just going through the insurance
process will help you understand what insurance companies see his
threats and things you need to depend against, and then
an incident response planned. Okay, if and when I have
an incident, it doesn't have to be a cyber attack.

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It could be my server crashed, we had a tornado. Whatever,
my systems are down right, what do I need to
do to recover? Who do I need to call so
that when that crisis hits you're not scrambled around? And
the reason I bring that up is because people will
often create these things, keep them in a digital format only,
and then they lose it when the system crashes. So yes,
having a hard copy, a secure hard copy in a

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safe or something of critical data is always a good
backup approach to make sure that if and when your
systems crash, you know you're good to go. Now. I
will also throw out one key idea and the world
of backups, you'll hear about the backup rule of three
to two one. This works well for individuals too. But
the idea of the backup rule of three two. One

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is you have for any critical data, anything you can't
afford to lose, you have three copies of it. The
production copy you're working off of, the other copy stored
on a different medium could be an external disc, could
be a network attached storage or whatever. And then a
third copy that's off site, ideally in some sort of
cloud based backup that's happening automatically, so that even if

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the two copies on site are destroyed somehow, you can
still fall back to a third copy that it's safe
somewhere else. Yeah, you know these are all and that
speaks to the resiliency idea that, Okay, when an event occurs,
doesn't have to be a cyber attack again, could be
a natural disaster. You've got something you can fall back on,
an ideal. You're testing it to make sure that it's
available and workable when you need it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
Great information. Dave Hatter as always my friend. Thank you
again and sleep tight. We'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 6 (01:04:41):
Always my pleasure.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
Thanks Gary, Jeff, you got it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:44):
Dave Hatter with us on the nightcap.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
We'll be back to wrap up with the fur ball
in minutes afternoons. Ah do I long for these conversations.
I'm like a junkie. I'm like scratching it in my arms,
and I'm freezing cold all a sudden and then sweating
the next because I got to get my fix of
the fur ball. I'm like a junkie on the streets.

(01:05:07):
It's and and now I get my dose. I get
to to as the as the junkies say, I get
to get well for a few minutes. So here is
my fix of Furman on a nightcap on seven hundred
w L W Oh did you bring this stuff?

Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
Andy?

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
The stuff? Yeah? I always bring this stuff. You know
that I'm ready for you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
Okay, good boy boy, I'll tell you what. The DT's
are terrible when I when I don't get enough Andy Furman.

Speaker 4 (01:05:38):
And now I know.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
There's something wrong with you. I guess you can think
get a life, But you know, there's there's so much
out there, and really and truly, I think we've got
to lead off for college football because that's the story
of the day right now. And one of the stories
obviously was Lank kissing. And it's really a funny story
because you know, I'm on the weekend. I'm on Sunday
morning on Fox Sports Radio, and I saw the show up,

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say hey, Lane, where you're going because you said Saturday
you're going to make a decision be at Florida or LSU,
and ended up going to LSU. And you know, after
a while that kind of got old.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
And here's the deal.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
I mean, the grain standing was disgusting. I really believe
that you're hurting the school. You're you're hurting the kids
that you recruited for that school. And I'm so happy
they a thought the arrector and to a president that
started to put the lock and bolt on his office
door and say, you know what, you want to go
to LSU. God bless you get the hell out. Here's
a guy who has always been one step out the

(01:06:30):
door wherever he's been. He was fired on the carmack
at the tarmac, I mean on the at the airport
when he was coaching USC. He coaches a Tennessee for
what they were seven and six.

Speaker 4 (01:06:40):
He got fired there.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
They threw him out of Knoxville, that's for sure, real quick.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
Yeah, I mean, so the guy's been all over I mean, yeah,
he's like a like a fifty nine and eleven record
at open as he's done, Well, why not stay there,
you know, build a legacy over there. I get it
for his contrast to be close, like seventy five seventy
eight million dollars in LSU, A lot of pressure on
him over there. But you know, here's the thing. There's
something wrong with this system. When a coach who takes

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the team to the college playoffs, the SEC you know,
playoffs whatever it may be. Yeah, and then all of
a sudden he's going to both and leave. And you know,
at least he talked about it. I mean, Brian Kelly
was worse. He just left. He didn't say a word.
He just didn't show up at the banquet for the
University of Cincinnati. So they got to do something right
now with this. And you know, I applaud Old miss

(01:07:27):
for not letting them coach in the playoff game, silly
because his coaching would just more or less talk to
these kids to tell him to go with it. Tell us,
you well, recruiting them while he's coaching them.

Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
Andy, You're not the first person.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
In fact, almost everyone including the people inside the bubble
of the coaches and administrators, are saying that college football
is broken.

Speaker 4 (01:07:51):
Now, how would you fix it?

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
Well? Number one, you know the portal for the college
kid for transferring and college football is going to be
open during the college football playoffs, which is so ridiculous
because here's the deal. If I'm a kid at school X,
and I get a great offer monetarily to go to
a college, and say, wait a second, you know, why
would I go to a playoff game and endanger my

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monetary economics for an injury? Last factor, I'm not going
to play. I'm going to both. I'm going to go
into the portal, I'm gonna go to the school. So
there's something wrong, I mean, and I don't understand how
these guys could get in a room and discuss this
and not look at the downside of what they're doing.
The portal should be done after the entire football season,

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playoffs at all are finished. During the playoffs, it doesn't
make any sense.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
You're absolutely correct on that. I don't think that you
should have this revolving door while a national championship is
at stake.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
And you know, honestly, as far as exposures concern the publicity,
I think the top players who in fact would put
their names in the portal, they'll get more play, more
publicity than maybe the games themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
You don't want to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
I mean, like omentually Baseball, they're small enough to say, hey,
look we're looking at the hold all trades of big
announcements during the World Series. I get it. The World
Series is the showcase. They're in the center stage and
everything else is an ancillary. Let that go roll up
to someplace else. A lot of people it takes sense,
it really doesn't.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
A lot of people said about the old system we got.
There's twelve team playoff. They just announced the teams earlier tonight.
They said that, you know, it's better for the teams
to on the field decide the national championship. And I
can't disagree with that instead of a computer placing four

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teams in there and having a couple of Bowl games
to determine it. But it's twelve teams too many, Andy,
you think.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
You think it is, But it's not too many for
the pocketbooks. That's the thing. Well, you know when they
have a question that Chris collins Worth the Wayswoman is
if you have a question, you know the answer is
follow the dots. Is always about the guelt, the green cabbage,
and that's what it is. It's all about the money.
And that's what this is. And I remember way back
when when they never even had a championship game played
for college football. It was the Associated Press and the

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United President the Nationals. They chose the college champion, AP champion,
and the UPI champion. So at least they're playing, okay.
And I remember your last year and the year prior
to that, they had four teams, and it was so
excited because look, the team had to get one loss
and basically you're on the hook. One loss, you may
not get in. And that team that was fifth, pressing
its nose against the glass. There was always a great story,

(01:10:34):
a controversial story. Should they have gotten it? Should they
have made it? Now with twelve, you're gonna get teams
with two losses for sure, and maybe several with three.
You know, and again, you know, what's the point in
playing throughout the entire season is you're going to play
again and meet the same teams again.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
I just but this also allows even with twelve teams, Andy,
it also allows for teams to be pressing their against
the glass. Now with only two losses. My Vanderbilt Commodores,
darn Well should have be considered for and I'm sure
they were at a certain point. But you know teams
like that who had incredible seasons. You know, Vandy has

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never won ten games in any college football season ever
in their entire school history.

Speaker 4 (01:11:20):
They won nine. The last time they won.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
Nine games was nineteen fifteen, and they had this remarkable
ten and two season. They their last game they beat
their rival ut on Tennessee's field. Tennessee was ranked nineteenth,
Vanderbilt fourteenth. But even at ten and two in the SEC,
they you know, are on the outside looking in more

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than likely, and and everybody else, like you said, you
got you got two loss teams. Notre Dame gets the
benefit of being Notre Dame.

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
That's the key, you know. You know what. Obviously Myami
of Florida beat not to Dam early on, and they've
been ranked a head of notes. There's been rent a
head of them all season long. I mean, you know,
there's always going to be an argument right there. And
I think this Miami team is one of those teams
you don't know what you're going to get on any
given Saturday. There they're one heck of a team and
an explosive team, but maybe the competition they played against,

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they only played as good as a competition in their conference,
which was not that great of a conference. And the
downside of Vanderbilt is the conference they playing. It's so strong,
the Big Ten obviously, and the SEC one two or
two one, if you will, as far as college football
powers are concerned. That's just the way it is.

Speaker 4 (01:12:35):
Well, it's pretty and maybe there's.

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
Too many teams in the conferences. It's pretty.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
It's pretty telling that the Big Ten championship coming up
this weekend is one versus two in the nation, Ohio
State versus Indiana. That could that has the potential, that
is all the earmarks of being a national championship game
right there, without the playoffs exactly exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
And that's a shame, isn't it. It really is, because
that game maybe better than the national championship game. Seriously, well,
I may have more interest.

Speaker 4 (01:13:04):
It's not a shame for Hoosier fans. I'll tell you
that right now.

Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
I mean, you're right about that. I mean, and again,
I mean the bottom line is this. If it's about
the money, let's go one step further. I mean you
could turn on any talk radio show in the country,
sports talk, national locos may be I promise you I
promise you they cannot get away without talking about gambling,
and get I get the reason why. It's it's part
of the game. To me, it's killing the game. And

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as long as they're sponsoring these shows, they're going to
talk about them. I hear it all the time. I
hear it all you. Look, I'm very fortunate because I
work at Fox Sports Radio, and yeah, they do talk
gambling on the shows, and they have the shows on Sunday.
You know whose favorite? How many points? Because I work
with a guy by the name of Bucky Brooks who
played in the NFL and he works for the Jackson Jaguars.
He's not permitted to talk about gambling because he works
for the NFL, which I love because I don't want

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to talk about gambling. There are too many great stories
out there. You want to talk about gamb Look, I'm
not opposed to it. I worked at racetracks most of
my life, But go ahead and gamble. I don't think
people want to tune on a radio show to hear
odds and lines about games about hosts that have no
idea how they could predict the game. Because look what's
happening in the NFL this year. You can't even predict
the game the other day that Carolina was going to

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beat the Rams. Are you kidding? You just can't predict it.
So I talk about it. You know, there are better
stories out there and game stories rather than just talk
about points and gambling. And I won't do it, and
I don't do it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
You could have predicted that the Giants were going to
get crushed last night by New England. Well that was
a runaway train from the start of the game.

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
And well what about the Giants kicker? Oh the end
of the game? Oh did you see that?

Speaker 4 (01:14:43):
No, I didn't see the end of it because I
turned it off already. It was over. It was thirty
to fifteen.

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
I saw it on social media, and look, I didn't
watch the end of the game because it was kind
of gone. Really, but you know, really and truly he
missed it. Looked like he just stopped before he was
going to kick the foot.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
Oh no, that was early. That was earlier in the game.
That wasn't at the end of the game.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
On social media after the game. But yeah, and the question,
the question arises has to arise, like was he doing
that because of the odds on the game? I mean,
with the points. There's a cloud over every game right now,
especially basketball. Would happen in the NBA and now maybe
even football. If the guy drops the pass in the
end zone and the game is not covered by the

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x amount of points, the question is going to be risen.
I mean, did he do it on purpose? Off?

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
And And it's all because of the prop bet angle.
And when you can bet on an individual player, maybe
not even a maybe not even a starter, who is
going to do something or do this or do that
during the game instead of just what what's the outcome
of the game, what's the point spread?

Speaker 4 (01:15:50):
When they get down.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
To the the micro cosm of a game and they
get to individual players and you know, field goal attempts
and people are betting on that, that is what opens
the door for all kinds of fraud and the lack
of integrity because of gambling.

Speaker 4 (01:16:10):
That's it right there.

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
I'll go on stuff further. You say it opens the door,
I'm gonna tell you this. The door's open. The door
is oh right, I mean the door. I mean what's
happened in the NBA would happened in Major League Baseball.
I just I think there's a cloud over professional sports.

Speaker 4 (01:16:25):
Right now.

Speaker 3 (01:16:26):
And I think that anytime something like that happens, a mispitch,
a drop ball, whatever it may be, the question is
going to be risen like, oh, did he do it
on perfect? Was he brought up? Or gamble is involved?
Was Vegas involved?

Speaker 4 (01:16:38):
Guys?

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
It's terrible, it really is.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
You got to get rid of the prop bets. That's
the only way to because you're never going to betting.

Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
Governor the one in Ohio has done that, yeah, which
is great, but you know one state. You know what
is that going to do? You bet in Vegas? That's
not gonna not gonna change things. The pro bit Vegas.

Speaker 4 (01:16:59):
People people are you to doing prop bets now?

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
So even if you made them technically illegal, there's still
going to be illegal betting going on on prop bet
prop bets and players. I mean, because you, like you said,
the door is open, Pandora's box has had the lid
lifted off, and this is what we've got.

Speaker 3 (01:17:19):
But okay, here's my question to you. I'm really I'm
so out of it with betting. I have no idea.
Now I know what a prop bet is. But some
of the wines says he wants to eliminate prop bets
in Ohio. I have a phone, and I want to
go to one of these betting sites. I guess I
could still better prop bet correct. Sure you sure you could?

(01:17:39):
Around you know, he's eliminating prop bets and casinos. I
would think that's where they're eliminated.

Speaker 4 (01:17:45):
At the sports books.

Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
But in other words, I have a phone, and if
I want to go to bet USA or at MGM,
whatever it may be, on my phone, I could make
a prop bet correct.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
You certainly could. All right, I'm sure I'm sure that
the prop bet police aren't banging down your door five
minutes after you get off the phone.

Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
Handy, right there you go. It's just, you know, and
I do. I say this not because I'm opposed to gambling.
I love the purity of sport and it's really been
taken away right now. It really has been. It has.
I mean, it's bad.

Speaker 4 (01:18:20):
I just all do.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
All of our innocence has been lost, Andy, all of
our innocence. There's no more innocence.

Speaker 3 (01:18:26):
In other words, if someone went to bet that Joe
Burrow is going to pass to three hundred yards this
week in their football game against Buffalo, and he's got
to eighty to eighty going to the fourth quarter and
the Bengals hand the ball off the entire fourth quarter
to run out the clock. Don't you think someone's going
to say, wait a minute, someone had to bet that
throw the three hundred yards. He didn't do it, because

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that's why they handed the ball off and ran the
football and didn't pass. Those are the things that are
gonna happen stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
One thing, one thing hasn't changed, Andy, was that the
house always wins and and the bookies always know what's
going to happen pretty much, And the only time they
question the legitimacy of betting is when they don't win.
As long as as long as the bookies are always

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on point with their point spreads and all their other
bets is long. It's when there are anomalies and the
house loses, that's when they look into it.

Speaker 4 (01:19:27):
Otherwise.

Speaker 3 (01:19:28):
But here's my question. Everything for years betty was legal
in England, and I have all the soccer leagues over there.
I haven't really read or heard about so much controversy
there as we have here. I do I do understand
why why is that?

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
Well, the paraphrase Sam wis, you don't live in England
you live in Cincinnati. Andy, Listen, I gotta go. Thank
you so much for your time tonight. As always, I
got my fix while I'm going home in a few minutes.

Speaker 4 (01:19:56):
It's late.

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
Enjoy drive carefully. Thank you all right, my friend. I'll
see you soon.

Speaker 4 (01:20:02):
Bye.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
The fur Ball on a Tuesday night. Back to wrap
up next