10-16-25 Ken Broo in for Willie

Ken Broo fills in for the Great American discussing the future for Cincinnati Police Chief Teresea Theetge, if peace can last in the Middle East, and revisiting the JFK assassination.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
All right, twelve oh seven, welcome on in. It's the
average American in for the great American on this Thursday.
Downtown Cincinnati will be a buzz tonight. Thus stubllers are
in town. Oh, I can only imagine, and I will
only imagine because I leave my couch. There's no way.
I mean, let's put it this way. Whenever this game happens.

(00:25):
As much as I like to be at games, if
it's a night game against Pittsburgh, Homie ain't leaving home.
That's just the way it is. But nevertheless, it's the
Steelers tonight in town to take on the Bengals, what's
left of the Bengals for a Thursday night game. And
it will be interesting to see exactly how the rest
of downtown Cincinnati behaves because it has been, as you know,

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and as we've been talking about on this radio station,
it seems like since the middle of this summer, it
is a dicey proposition every time the sun goes down
on Cincinnati. So we'll see what tonight brings. I'm sure
there will be, as always with any Bengals game night
or noon, a very strong police presence. But who exactly
will be the chief of Cincinnati's police force when the

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sun goes down tonight. According to the Inquirer, the city
is negotiating with the current police chief, Thereesa Thiji to resign.
She has been called back from Denver, from where all
these police chiefs were meeting at a conference, and called
back quickly by the city manager, Cheryl Long. So it

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doesn't sound like she's long for the police world here
in Cincinnati. But somebody else who knows and knows that
this might not be the best thing for the City
of Cincinnati to do is standing by to join us
right now. He, of course, is Cincinnati Fraternal Order of
Police President Ken kobt Ket. How are you on this
glorious day.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
I'm doing great.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (01:52):
I'm well.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
They're going to can Thiji, aren't they.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
I suspect it's coming. It's just a matter of time.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
From what I've seen in the comments you've made, she's
nothing more than a scapegoat here, Is that right?

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Without a doubt.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
I mean, this is the problem, and I've told other
media outlets the same thing is getting rid of her
is not fixing the problem. It's just not You have
a mayor that is telling her what to do, and
she does it perfect excuse me, perfect example, the chief
has asked the mayor for the last year to go
meet with CPS figure out what we're going to do

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with these kids that are coming down.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Here to these bus stops, and he just refuses to
do it.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
She's gone to the mayor and say, listen, you've got
to do something with these judges. Put pressure on these
judges to give high bonds, put pressure on these judges
to lock these violent people up and keep them locked
up because the police are doing what they're supposed to
be doing. And the bottom line is the marriage hasn't
done it. So to use her as a scapegoat when
she's done anything that the mayor has asked her to do,
it's not going to fix the problem. We're going to

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continue in this until we have either a chief that
works independently of elected officials, or we have a mayor
that's going to fully support protecting the city.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
That's the bottom line.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Well, we've got a mayor's election, as you well know,
coming up here in November, and it would seem to
me that the current mayor have to have Purivo found
religion about all of this. Along about July when he
came back from his family vacation in Vancouver. And obviously,
now well, I mean, I mean, let's let's be honest here,
Purvial is going to get reelected. It may not be

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what the amount of vote that he got the first time.
He's going to be the mayor here again, unless something
cataclysmic happens. It's the city of Cincinnati and the entire
county of Hamilton County have turned blue. But you've you've
you've hit the problem on the head can and that's judges.
We have a largely Democrat bench in the city of Cincinnati.
You guys, the police, you know exactly who these these

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criminals and these thugs are, and so they bring you,
You bring them in. Maybe they stay in jail for
a while, maybe they get bailed out, maybe bond is
said at an increasingly low level. We've seen that this
summer as well. And then they go through the prosecutorial
process and they're prosecuted, and they wind up in front
of a judge, and the judge wants to be crusader
rabbit and turn a criminal back out on the street

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because we want to rehabilitate the criminal. And then tomorrow
it's rinse and repeat. There's the problem, is it not?

Speaker 4 (04:19):
Oh, without a doubt, I was told yesterday and this
is an absolute staggering fact. There are four people that
are under indictment for murder right now that are walking
around our communities.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
They're out on EMU. They murder and they're out.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah, that's just given the current makeup of the bench
in Hamlin County. It does not surprise me because there
is a there is a philosophical belief that everybody should
be rehabilitated. No, their ass should be thrown in jail.
Just like these two nutballs that went through Fountain Square
a couple of nights ago, shooting it up and shooting

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at innocent people in a restaurant ought to be in jail.
I know you're still looking for a couple of them,
or one of them at least, but you got I mean,
if the video is there, the gun is there, the
gun is tied to the guy, the guy needs to
be put in jail. But we both know what's going
to happen, don't we.

Speaker 5 (05:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
Well, two of the people involved in that. One was
out on bond for an aggravated robbery. Another person involved
was just recently placed on community control or probation, if
you will, for a pistol whipping offense that occurred earlier
this year. So it's no surprise that these things are happening.
It's no surprise that it's going to continue to happen

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until we decide and these judges decide that they're going
to lock up these people that are continuing to commit
violent crime. And part of that is we have an election.
Know who the candidates are, know who the candidates that
support law and order. Get those judges in office, and
maybe we'll see a change.

Speaker 6 (05:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah, I know a little bit about this, not a lot,
but certainly I know a little bit about this. The
recidivism rate is extremely high, and one would guess that
there are people right now that you and your fellow
officers see on a daily basis, and you know it's
just a matter of time before they do something again. Everybody,
not all of these people that can make crimes, but

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a large number, you know, are just going to be
right back at it the minute they get out of
jail or the minute they're turned loose into the community.
You know these people are, don't.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
You, absolutely? And that's just it.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
I mean, you've got a community of three hundred thousand
people and you might have five hundred to one thousand.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
I mean, think about that.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
Five hundred to one thousand of people are driving all
of the crime in this city, and the number might
actually be lower.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
But when you look at that.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
From the perspective, there's three hundred thousand people in this city.
That's a low number. So why are we not finding
those people and keeping them locked up? Because they're finding them.
The comps are doing a fantastic job. You go back
to the Fountain Square. You know that they had two
shootings in two weeks and they've made these arrests, They've
recovered the guns. It's not the police that aren't doing
their job. The judges have got to step up.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Is theg popular inside the rank and file. I know
there's this this lawsuit involving officer Tony Nash twenty twenty
four lawsuit. The judge throughout half of the half of
the charges I guess it was late August, but four
of them were allowed to go forward. You had what,
you know, the terrible thing that that happened in over

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the Rhine with the shooting of Heninger. I'm just I'm
just wondering is she popular with her with her rank
and file.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Well, to be honest, it depends on how to ask.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
I mean, there are certainly people in this department that
don't agree with things she's done, and there's people that have.
But there is one thing that every officer that I've
talked to in the last twenty four hours agrees with
is she's getting railroaded, even their officers that don't necessarily
care for her, that have reached out to me and said, listen,
you know, I'm not the biggest fan of hers, but

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this is ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
She's getting railroaded.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
She's nothing but a political pond, and that's one thing
everybody agrees on.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Well, it looks like she's I mean, look, if they
hauled her back from a conference in Denver overnight and
they're trying to negotiate her way out, you know, to
avoid litigation, she's gone. It's just a matter of when.
This is an open ended question, and I know that
the answer to it is someone somewhere. But who would
want to walk into this situation right now and become

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the chief of police in Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Without a doubt?

Speaker 5 (08:33):
You know?

Speaker 4 (08:33):
And the travesty of all this is the men and
women that still go out every day and put this
uniform on amidst all this chaos that's going on at
City Hall and a chaos that's going on with the
command staff dealing.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
With the chief.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
They still go out every day, they put their uniform
on and they're dealing with this. You know, those are
the people that should be giving all of the credit
in the world that amidst all of this nonsense, they're
still going out and protecting the city. But to your point,
who would want to do it? Who would want to
step in I deal with this, with this mess that's
going on right now?

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Well that's it. It looks like that we all know
city Council, regardless of the makeup of it, has been
dysfunctional as long as I've been in town, and I've
been in town on and all for the last forty
five years. I mean, there was a time when there
was some serenity when Charlie Luken was mayor. There seemed
to be a process where things got done. I think
he was a guy that got things done. Now it

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just seems like, you know, every time you turn your
head around, there's somebody making a nitwit statement where the
mayor goes missing or things like that. So if you're
the mayor, for example, of Fort Wayne, Indiana, I'm sorry,
the police chief in Fort Wayne, Indiana, or perhaps in Frisco, Texas,
or wherever they may look next, and you're looking at Cincinnati,
you're saying to yourself, do I really want that headache?

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I may wait for the next train to come and
take me someplace else where. At least I got a
fighting chance. But you and I both know there are
probably people inside the rank and file. Somebody that's sitting
there that's politically motivated inside the force right now would
probably want to say, yeah, take a shot at this.
I mean there will be somebody right.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, and there.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
Believe me, there are more than qualified people. We have
several people in this department that are capable of running
a police department. It all comes down to as a
matter of are they going to be allowed? Are they
going to be allowed to take this department and run
it the way they see fit? Are we going to
continue with what we have right now, which is city
hall dictating what the chief's going to do.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
All right, that's okay, nothing's going to change.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah, okay, So what is this thing I read on
Fountain Square we're going to beep up. We're going to
beep up security between two o'clock in the afternoon at
ten o'clock at night. I mean, I read that the
other day, and the first thing that struck me was, well,
the criminals can set a wake up call for ten
thirty at night and they're open for business. What's the
wisdom behind just a certain finite number of hours every day.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Optics?

Speaker 4 (10:53):
Quite honestly, I mean, why you would announce that, I
don't know, because to your point, okay, well they're going
to be there from two to ten.

Speaker 5 (10:59):
Right.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
If I'm going to go cause a ruckus, it's either
going to be at one o'clock or eleven o'clock. Why
you would announce that.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
I have no idea other than the fact that you
want to show that you're doing something, that we're gonna
make this safe and we're doing something.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Here's what we're doing instead of just doing it.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yeah, I just I mean, I mean, to me, it
was just it was a foolish thing to do, all right.
So the FOP get no confidence vote in pure boll
back a couple of months ago in August. You know
what we have in town that I we and we
will have continuing through the course of the fall, in
the winter, many events in downtown Cincinnati. They put a

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skating rink up on Fountain Square. We have the Bengals
playing occasionally in primetime football. Well, what do you tell
of the average person that's going to be driving in,
perhaps not from Hamilton County, but from Warren County, Butler
County wherever to watch this game tonight, or anything else
that might transpire on a nightly basis, daily basis. Helly,
we got shootings in broad daylight. What would you tell

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them about the safety and the security of downtown Cincinnati
right now?

Speaker 2 (12:05):
You better be aware of your surroundings. You better stay
in large groups.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
That that is going to minimize your risk of becoming
a victim. But quite honestly, I would park as close
to the stadium. I can go to the game and
then win. It's over, get out of dodge.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Well, if you park, if you pack around Fountain Square
like tonight's game, it sounds like you better get out
of there at halftime. I mean if it runs out
at ten o'clock at night. Man, I ain't walking up
the Fountain Square at ten o'clock at night, would you.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
No, But you have to understand, especially a game you know,
like this obviously Thursday night football, there are going to
be probably between one hundred one hundred and fifty cops
somewhere around there that are gonna be working that are
going to make absolutely every effort to make sure that
the people that come here are going to be here
in a safe environment. But with that being said, cops
can't be everywhere. So like I said, it's it's it's

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gonna hopefully it's going to be a great night in
Sea Cincinnati, but be aware of your surroundings. And they said,
as soon as the game's over, I would be certainly
heading back to where I came from.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Ken Cole, I should know this, and I don't. How
long have you been on the force.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
I'm the police department for twenty five years.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Who's the best chief you had?

Speaker 4 (13:19):
You know, there's two debates for this. I will tell
you personally, Chief Striker hired me twice, once as a
police get at it and once as a police officer,
so I certainly have a lot of respect for him.
And then we had James Craig, who I'll tell you
what you ask anybody that's been around when James Craig
was here, what he brought to Cincinnati in the short

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time that he was here was nothing short of phenomenal.
And it's ironic because he was the chief that was
the first one that was hired outside of our department,
and was the first one hired under Issue five, which
meant that they could essentially try to make a fire
you for pretty much whatever reason, and the city hall
could cold what you did. He was here for two
years and not a day more because he refused to

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cave into city Hall and they got rid of him
for it.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
I knew Striker. I knew Craig Striker couldn't work in
the environment that exists in this town right now as
a police chief. And Craig wouldn't even look at it. Twice.
I know he got into politics when he went up
to Michigan, and if that's the step he wants to take,
great But in this current environment, neither one of those
two guys would work here. I guarantee you want to
work here.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Right, I mean, you look and we had you Elliot Isaac.
You know, with the environment that he had working, he
did a great job.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
Chief Fiji's done a great job with the environment in
which he has to work in. But these, you know,
the days of Chief Striker being able to run the
department the way that he saw fit. Those ended when
he retired and we won't see that again. And that's
the problem.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
So you say replacing the chief is not the answer.
There are three options reappeal issue five. So the chief
isn't under the thumb of an elected official. I'm reading
your words back to you. Convinced the mayor to allowed
the chief to do his or her job independently, or
put a new mayor in Well, I you know, as
much as I think the Republican side of this would
love to see Corey Bowman have a chance, I think

(15:08):
you're now to your top two there, And of those
top two, what do you think the most likely thing
to happen is? I think it's neither as what you
don't want to say. But what do you think the
most likely chance is?

Speaker 4 (15:18):
Yeah, I think the more likely thing would be coming
up with a ballot initiative and get to convince the
voters that we have got to allow the police chief
to work.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
There are ways that.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
This charter amendment could be could be at least, if
not repealed, that can be amended. That affords the chief
some protections to run the department that they see fit.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah, and you know, ultimately what has to happen, you know,
you know.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Ken, the answer to all of our questions in life
is money. And all it's going to take is two
or three high profile businesses to move out of downtown
Cincinnati unless they can corral this stuff. And that's going
to be what is the impetus to change all this stuff?
Money buys attention, and I think invariably, unless this thing
is corralled, you're going to get that. You'll get two

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or three high profile businesses move out, and then all
of a sudden people will start getting religion on this stuff.
That's the way it works, isn't it.

Speaker 5 (16:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
That's a sad part is because I don't want to
see any business leaf. I want to see this place thrive.
But you know something has to change.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Well, Ken Kober, we always appreciate you having you on.
We'll see who you're cheap is by sundown tonight. My
guess is it won't be Teresa Thiji. It may not
be anyone for a while. We'll see. But for your
time today. We certainly appreciate it. You stay well, okay.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yep, you as well, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
You bet, it is a mess. And let me just
think of that. If you're Thiji, you go to Denver,
You're with all of your peers out there, and all
of a sudden you're yanked back into town. And now,
if you're going to do that to somebody, why don't
you just do that before they leave? So you've got

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embarrassment on top of what sounds like problems with the
rank and file of the cops. But we have Monday
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(17:15):
Average American in for the Great American on this Thursday
on the show today coming up one oh six. This
peace plan that the President negotiated with all these other countries,
how long do you think it's going to take before
Hamas turns that thing upside down? They've already kind of
done that. But to my knowledge, Hamas is still armed,

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So I ain't going to disarm Hamas well. Have somebody
who is well noted, well spoken, and someone who has
studied Middle East tensions and settlements for decades joined us.
At one O six, two o six, Charlie Kirk's widow
got the Medal of Freedom that President Trump handed out

(17:57):
yesterday or it was yester two days for her husband,
the late Charlie Kirk. And there is someone who believes
that there are parallels between the assassination of Charlie Kirk
and the assassination of former President John Fitzgerald Kennedy. And
he has a theory as to why each one of

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those happened and how they're intertwined. We'll get to that
at two of six. All kinds of stuff on the
show today, and yes there is Monday Night football tonight.
This is a battle of old guys. I love old
guys when they engage in battle gladiators. I think the
combined age of Joe Flacco and Aaron Rodgers or something

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like eighty one eighty two years old. Flacco was talking
about that this week with the media about just how
this is one for the aged.

Speaker 7 (18:51):
Yeah, it's one thing you guys can't talk about this
week in terms of me being older at least, but
it's pretty neat. I mean, Aaron's been in the league
a few years longer than me. But we started playing
in two thousand and eight, so been some been doing
it for a long time. It's pretty cool now.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Me Meanwhile, you got Rogers who is with Pittsburgh. They're
doing pretty well. God admit, they're doing pretty well. And
the old guy thing, you know, the icy hot Bowl thing,
it's not lost on him. He was in Pittsburgh crowing
about that.

Speaker 8 (19:19):
Yeah, I think it's great, great for all the old guys.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
You know.

Speaker 8 (19:24):
I know that when I watch other sports. Maybe it's
because I'm the older guy, but I tend.

Speaker 5 (19:28):
To to pull.

Speaker 8 (19:30):
For the older guys too to win, to win championships.
I'm I'm I've been friends with Steph for a long time.
Steph is one of the older guys in the NBA.
Now there's any time to Warriors to play. I'm always
pulling for for Steph to ball out for them, for
them to win. But, uh, it's great. I mean, I've
known Jill for a long time. Uh, he's been great
coming to my charity event. Uh, he's been a great

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ambassador for the league. He's had a great career, and
it's fun that we're both still playing.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah, he pulls for the old I pull for the
old guys. I root for Cunningham. Somebody that is not
excited about any of this is Mike Tomlin. I don't
know if you heard his comments about the Browns trading
Flacco here to the Bengals. He made this statement earlier
this week.

Speaker 6 (20:14):
You know. To be honest, it was shocking to me.

Speaker 9 (20:17):
Andrew Barry must be a lot smarter than me or
us Browns GM, because it doesn't make sense to me
to trade a quarterback that you think enough of to
make your opening day starter to a division opponent that's
hurting in that area.

Speaker 6 (20:31):
But that's just my personal feeling.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
He was salivating over the opportunity to defend against Jake Browning.
Now he's got to deal with Flacco, who may or
may not have hit his stride in the second half
of that game on Sunday. We'll see better evidence coming tonight.
Standing by to join us right now is somebody that
knows all of this stuff inside out. He is the
president and CEO of Resilience Media. What is that, I

(20:57):
don't know. I think he's kind of like a facilitator.
But anyway, primary coverage and primary facilitation efforts are in
the world of sports, We've had Neil Coolong on before
when he was with USA Today and then with SI
dot Com and now here he is president and CEO
of his own company. Who would want that? Neil Coolong,
how are you on this glorious day.

Speaker 10 (21:19):
I'm doing very well, still in my keyjote like approach
to finding whatever else is out there. But it's it's
a it's a crazy new world, but it's exciting and
there's always NFL to discuss and go over.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
So I'm excited to be here.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Yes, sir, okay, So we have. As we were joking
back and forth on Twitter the other day, it's this
is not a game for the ages. This is a
game for the aged. This is the This is the
Icy Hot Bowl. According to Aaron Rodgers and to Joe Flacco,
who would have thought at the end of last season
it would be Rogers against Flaco's Steelers against Bengals, But

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that's why they played the games. Neil, who is the
more successful aging veteran at this point? In your opinion?

Speaker 10 (22:06):
I think if we were to break it down like that,
Rogers probably has a step on Flacco.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
But the reason the Bengals.

Speaker 10 (22:13):
Brought Flacco in is because the more able, bodied, somewhat
experienced quarterback that they had wasn't working out. And what
they really want is to put it in this context,
the studio musician. You know, Flacco is going to come in,
he's going to play the music, and he's going to leave.

Speaker 6 (22:33):
They have.

Speaker 10 (22:35):
Abnormally powerful weapons within that offense that Jake Browning was
not utilizing fully and they needed somebody that could just
would simply be able to diagnose what a defense is
doing and get the playmakers the ball in an effort
to salvage whatever they can in an adverse situation. And
I think Flacco is a reasonable option for that, and

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he was probably the most affordable option all things considered.
You know that there are others out there that probably
have more physical skill, but experience in that kind of
situation counts a ton. And this is one why a
guy like Joe Flacco and even Aaron Rodgers are still
in the NFL. In two why teams largely consider their

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backup quarterback to be a top twenty roster spot. When
that starter goes down, there's a lot you can't replace,
and because of that, you're going to have to You know,
the coaches will never say that you're going to have
to compensate in other ways. The one thing you absolutely
cannot have is a guy that's afraid or inexperience in

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performing under the lights. And I think that's the situation
that we have tonight. You've got two veteran quarterbacks that
are not the physical specimen they used to be. They're
both Super Bowl champion quarterbacks, they both have two of
the best postseason performances in NFL history.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
In my opinion, they're a long way from that.

Speaker 10 (24:00):
What they can do is identify a defense and conduct
an offense within a structure that will utilize the weapons
they have available.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Why is Mike Tomlin so bent out of shape that
the Browns made this trade with the Bengals to get Flaco?
Why does he care? I mean, I know we'd rather
face Browning than Flaco, But over and above that, why
would Mike Tomlin care?

Speaker 10 (24:23):
I you know, it's it's funny, that's really kind of
the question of the week on the inside, because go
back seventeen years, very rarely do you see Tomlin kind of,
you know, get bristled up a little bit over something.
He does not comment negatively on opponents. Ever, there was

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a joke we used to have in the room, you
can play Bengo based on the opponent, and we tried
to assign who the cliche was going to be about,
like combat catch guy was this guy, or you know
he covers every blade of grass will be this guy.
For him to say what he did, it was awfully pointed,

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and I don't think it's so much pointed at the Bengals.
I think what if I were to guess, and this
is pure speculation on my part, I don't know anything
about it. I think what he's saying is the Bengals
are a dangerous team even if Joe Burrow is not playing.

(25:25):
Obviously they're going to take a step back, but you
can find ways to beat teams with the weapons that
they have on offense if you get a quarterback that
can be averaged.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
Browning was not average in that sense.

Speaker 10 (25:41):
The Browns deciding to send a veteran quarterback inside the
division who's a noticeable step up based on the two
games that we saw.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Poor Jake Browning. I don't know what happened to.

Speaker 10 (25:53):
Him to help them improve that keeps them alive within
the division, and I think that's kind of what he
is saying like, why would you do that? If you're
Andrew Berry. You're not getting anything out of that. You're
still paying most of Flacco's salary, which isn't all that
much anyway. You swapped picks, so it's the difference of
like seventeen picks unless you had an extreme problem.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
With Joe Flacco. How are you benefiting from this deal
at all? And conversely, the Bengals made the deal of
the year.

Speaker 10 (26:23):
I know we're not going to look at it that
way as it being that intense of a transaction that
could save their season.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
How is this playing out tonight? Because I looked at
the Steelers, nothing really jumps out at me. Statistically for them,
they don't run the ball particularly well on average. Although
Warren has had his moments, Rogers his days of throwing
close to four hundred and three touchdown passes pretty much
gone by. The offensive line seems to have done okay.

(26:54):
He's not getting sacked a lot. Defensively, they look like
they're healthy and they're pretty darn good. But I'm just wondering,
if you look at this game tonight, I'm wondering if
we're going to eclipse thirty points in this game? And
that's combined. How do you see this thing playing out?

Speaker 10 (27:12):
We've said that a lot about these games. You never
know when it comes to Thursday night games within the division.
You know, we spent the last week talking about Jackson
Dart basically being the reincarnation of Joe Montana. When you're
familiar with your opponent and you have the opportunity on

(27:32):
a short week to kind of seize momentum in a
game and really, you know, throw a knockout blow at
somebody that can go either way. I don't think Cincinnati
had a fairly significant hurdle to overcome, but they're professionals.
When jobs get you know, challenged, I'm not saying threatened,

(27:56):
but a bad season is not going to do well
for your coaching staff.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
And I think that's true of anybody.

Speaker 10 (28:01):
If if you're going to show that one player is
the reason you're able to do absolutely anything, they're going
to look for other coaches. They're going to improve everybody else.
So they're they're they're going to be fully invested in that.
And on top of that, it's not like they need
to sit down and categorically break down everything Pittsburgh does.
They know Pittsburgh well, they know the tendencies, they have

(28:22):
veteran players, they're going to have a good sense of
who they are in that I would agree. I would
probably feel this would be lower scoring just because it
seems like these games, especially in the AFC North, they're
they're for jabbers more than haymakers. They're not going to,
you know, really kind of push the knockout blow. But

(28:43):
at the same time, if I'm Cincinnati, look I've got
I've got t Higgins, I've got Jamar Chase. I'm going
to put them to work. Let's let's get them down
the field. I'm however many points it is underdog tonight,
I'm going to try to make big plays because, to
be honest with you, looking at the Steelers film, I
don't see a team that one really wants to try
for those big plays. And two probably because we're not

(29:06):
going to be all that successful of them play a play.
I like what DK Metcalf did last week. I don't
know if his body of work to this point is
representative of a player that is going to make big plays,
all things being equal, I think a lot of the
place he's made to this point is defenders slipping on
turf miscommunications and coverage.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
We've seen that to this point.

Speaker 10 (29:29):
Either way, there are two players who, in my opinion,
are noticeably better than DK Metcalf on the other side
of the ball. I think Cincinnati can get away with that.
Are they going to risk the takeaways? Are they going
to risk deep drops with an old and immobile quarterback
against a pretty aggressive pass rush. That's where I think
this probably goes more into a lower scoring tilt. But

(29:53):
you never know on Thursday night.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
No, you know, you really never do. But there are
storylines all over this game I think make it kind
of kind of intriguing. Neil Coolong he is, as I say,
the king looking for a kingdom, but he's with Resilience Media.
And this is a guy that has worked in a
number of different places, including covering the Steelers as a
beat writer working for USA Today, and I think all

(30:17):
points in between and nose Pittsburgh inside out. Sorry, so
I got thirty seconds, give me a final score.

Speaker 10 (30:25):
I'm going to say Pittsburgh twenty six Cincinnati.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Twenty. I think it'll be competitive.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Okay, so it gets over thirty, it gets over thirty.

Speaker 10 (30:37):
Yeah, I just I'm leaning into that because I feel
like there's going to be the last drive. They could
result in a touchdown to kind of break open a
nineteen sixteen nineteen nineteen.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Type of game. They're going to play close for most
of it.

Speaker 10 (30:51):
I think the game is going to swing in one
way or another in the second half.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Okay, so you see you like forty six in this game.
I think the number in this game the last time
I looked was somewhere around forty four. I think it's
a forty three and a half right now. So you're
saying it dances with the number, and it's Pittsburgh minus

(31:16):
five and a half. So it's what you take is
the over. If you're Neil Koolong and you take the
Steelers and give the points, that's what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
You say it like that, You make me want to
change my mind.

Speaker 10 (31:27):
I'm gonna got the Steelers the historic They are so
bad on the road on Thursday nights.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
Gosh, that's tough.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Are you that week that I changed your mind in
thirty seconds on this thing? Are you that week?

Speaker 10 (31:42):
It's I don't trust the Steelers on Thursday night. You
know I talked to Cleveland radio stations. How many times
I picked Cleveland to win, and they laughed at me
in these games. Yeah, Steelers don't play well on Thursday night. Now,
this is earlier in the year when you get you know,
the past couple of seasons, they have older teams playing
late in the year on Thursday night. And if they're

(32:03):
they're dead. They've got nothing in those games. But they
get killed. And it wouldn't surprise me if if this
is a lot more competitive than people think that it will.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
But I'm gonna stick with the over. I just think
I think there's gonna be a late touchdown in there.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Well, it's all right, I mean it's it's it's radio.
Nobody's gonna come looking for you if you're if you're wrong,
But that's okay. That's why we like having you on.
Neil Coolong. You can follow them on Twitter. It's the
at sign in his name Neil with an A N
E A L coulong c l o ng. All right,
my friends, stay well, you and I will visit probably
close to that next game here in about a month.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Absolutely, I'm already looking forward.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
To listen to you. I'm toying with the under in
this game. I just am. I just can't. I can't
bring myself to take the over. Now watch it be
like thirty eight thirty four or something like that. But
I just I just got I have a feeling about
the under in this one. We'll see twelve fifty three already,
My goodness, we are plowing forward very close to the

(33:02):
Bengals pregame show at three o'clock on news Radio seven
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(33:23):
I mean great medium of terrestrial radio or perhaps the
iHeartMedia app, we welcome you on it. We really do.
And you know, there are a lot of things buzzing around,
certainly here in the city of Cincinnati. Monday night football, well,
I guess it's Thursday night. Put Thursday night football is
in town. That's going to be a big event. The

(33:45):
safety of the city and your ability to go down
there and see that game and do other things in
around the greater Cincinnati area Hamblin County, but in particularly
the city of Cincinnati, that's of great concern. I know,
to a lot of people, A lot of people are suburbians.
They don't go to Hamilton County into the city of

(34:05):
Cincinnati every single day, and so they don't know what
to expect. We've seen the news reports, We've heard the verbiage.
We know the police chief is about to be fired
or will work out some resignation, and people are wondering,
you know, what do I really want to you know,
what can I find around my town? What can't I

(34:27):
find that I have to find in the city of Cincinnati.
And the answer is pretty much nothing. The Reds, of
course play downtown, the Bengals play downtown, and of course
there might be one or two other things that might
draw you to downtown Cincinnati. But by and large, anything
that's in downtown Cincinnati that you think is great, restaurant, shopping,

(34:49):
whatever it may be, is available where you live, or
at least very close to where you live. And it's
an image problem that the city of Cincinnati has. It
is a growing image problem. And as I I said,
and what I had Ken Kobleer on here about an
hour ago, all it's going to take is one or
two high profile businesses to pull out and say, you
know what, we're done, we're moving. We're moving to Westchester,

(35:13):
or we're moving to Erlanger, or we're moving someplace other
than downtown Cincinnati. And all of a sudden, you've got
major problems financial and otherwise in downtown Cincinnati. So politics aside,
and I know you can't do that with this particular situation.
Unless they can get a handle on this thing, it

(35:33):
will affect this city financially. And so they've I seek,
I think reluctantly embraced the state help that the governor
has offered. And so you'll probably see some more state
police in and around downtown Cincinnati. But it's an indictment
really of the ability to recruit new officers and of

(35:55):
a message that is emanating from city Hall that cascades
into the courtroom. Were these judges, these relatively new judges
sit that think it's okay, you know, term loose, no
matter what they did, term loose, rehabilitate them. There things
buzzing around the world too, and not the least of
which is an uneasy piece in the Middle East. We

(36:16):
saw what the President did earlier this week. We know
that the last of the twenty living hostages held by
Hamas in Gaza are now back in Israel. The hostages
were kidnapped, as we know on October seventh, twenty twenty three.
We also know that there were many of those hostages
that simply did not survive. Where are the bodies? Hamas

(36:39):
brought another body back to Israel, at least through the
Red Cross back to Israel, but they've been playing games
with some of the remains standing by the way. In
as somebody who knows Middle East politics and the way
things are in that area of the world. He is
a trained Middle East historian PhD from King's College in London,

(37:02):
and he's written a lot of books about Arab Israeli
conflicts and American forum policy as such. And it's great
to have doctor ASoP Romerowski join us once again here
on seven hundred w welw and doctor, how are you
on this glorious Thursday?

Speaker 3 (37:19):
Good?

Speaker 11 (37:19):
How are you doing?

Speaker 1 (37:20):
I'm well, okay, give me some odds. How do you think?
What do you think the odds are of this piece
holding for let's say thirty days.

Speaker 11 (37:32):
Well, it's already hasn't really fulfilled itself. I mean, I
think we need to contextualize what we're seeing here, you know,
there's no doubt that this was an historic event. In
the moment that you to see the reunification of the
families of the hostages who've been in captivity in the
really in the dungeon hollows of Gaza, in these terror tunnels.

(37:53):
That being said, you're already seeing that the second part
of the deal, which was supposed to be the those
who uh, those who have perished, the dead hostages are
only coming out in drips and drabs uh. And to
even give your listeners a context of some of this,
four of the bodies that were returned yesterday, one of

(38:14):
them was not even a hostage, was not even a
body of a hostage. And that was something these kind
of psychological games we saw early on in the war,
for example with the Bevas family, which again they when
they got to the forensic institute in Tel Aviv, they
realized that they put in other body parts. So this

(38:36):
is the unfortunate psychological game that Hamas is putting on.
And let's not forget the fact that at the moment
that Israel moved out of the area that they were in,
Hamas is already executing people in the streets, and nobody's
reporting about it.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
Absolutely, very few I've seen. I've seen a couple, but
I haven't seen certainly not the mainstream media. They're they're
not going to reap or anything like that. But all right,
who didn't think Hamas was going to do this? I
mean they had to. I mean even the people that
were instrumental in putting this deal together, and that would
start with President Trump, and I think you would have

(39:12):
to look at the leaders of Turkey and Qatar and
other places like that. They would have had to have
known that Hamas is. They're just they're just untrustworthy people.
So they they had to know something like this was
going to happen, didn't they.

Speaker 11 (39:29):
Yes. I mean, look, let's not forget the fact that
Turkey and Cutter were also patrons of Hanas. They're the
ones who also funded UH ten to seven. And of
course let's not we cannot forget. And when we were
missed the mission to miss the Islamic Republic of Iran,
it's in their DNA. I think that there was larger interest,

(39:49):
that is to say, what Cutter and what Turkey went
out of the United States, you know, as far as
Turkey one, uh, you know, a playing deal when it
comes to the f thirty five UH and the discussion
going on there cut our once a new airbase. You know,
there's a lot of things as far as their own
national interests that supersede what they're deal with Hamas.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
Is.

Speaker 11 (40:12):
Their message to Hamas was that basically, this is the
best deal you're going to get after two years, you
might as well take it. And in return, Hamas is
receiving close to two thousand active terrorists from Israeli prisons
who are going to be fortifying the bench. The larger issue,
I think for the Trump administration is more about the

(40:35):
regional objectives, and that is to say, if Indonesia, who's
been making comments already about joining the Abram records, and
more importantly the Saudis who creditated their involvement on the
ending of the war, which is a big deal for
the US and for Israel that would be a big
win the war with Hamas itself. Again, you're not going

(40:57):
to change their ideology. You're not going to change their DNA.
You're talking about a Jihati barbarics, a elimination of ideology.
That is that they believe in hook, line and sinker,
and that's they're committed to that.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
So back in the summer, Trump sends a bunch of
B two bombers over to Iran and blows up some
of their nuclear sites, the damage of which you know
might have been in contention. The administration said, look, we
basically neutralize this group, and that was the chief funder
for Hamas. You do economic deals with Turkey and Qatar,

(41:38):
and that's how you attack that particular problem with regards
to Hamas and how it's being fostered and funded. That
seems to be the art of the deal. No pun
intended here for the president. That's how we attack this thing.
But everybody now has a little bit of stake in
this game, don't they. I mean, if Aron starts wearing
its ugly head again, here come the B two s,

(41:59):
and Turkey and Katar don't get what they want economically
for certain if they start fooling around with Hamas again.
So he's trying to cut all of this off at
the head, is he not?

Speaker 11 (42:11):
Yes? And I think that to some extent he's been
able to do that. Not to mention to your earlier point,
suffocating from US financially, which is obviously critical, I think that,
you know, creating a regional environment, and specifically as it
relates to the understanding that Iran is the greatest destabilizing
force in the region and creating a coalition of countries

(42:32):
the Saudis, the Israeli, the Jordanians, the Egyptians who are
willing to fight him back with the United States, that
is a useful move. Not to mention, you know, one
should not, you know, ignore the fact that, uh, what
we saw and you're illustrated was a phenomenal illustration of

(42:53):
the US Israel alliance when they are on the same page,
you know, going back to Trump's speech at the Israeli
parliament this week with Natanya together, and so the message
to the our world as a hamas that there is
no there is no wishy washing policies here. Israel and

(43:13):
the US are on the same day, and the US
will back Israel militarily if and when they need to
continue this battle. And that's also been a message that
has come out of the Frump administration, which again the
previous administration was waf pulling on this matter. And I
think that the fact that we are in the same
page now, you know, does show the turns and does

(43:36):
show that they are going to act when they need to.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
I saw former Harvard professor Alan Dershwitz on one of
the programs in the last couple of days. He said,
this deal would be unattainable for presidents Obama or Biden.
Obama tried to buy some sort of deal with Iran
and therefore it's it's subsidiaries like kamal Us with money.

(44:01):
And Biden was just I mean, he was a complete
neurological mess when he was in office and probably wasn't
running the country, let alone foreign policy. But Trump got
a deal that the other two guys before him could
not get. It was Dershowitz, right.

Speaker 11 (44:18):
Yeah, I don't disagree with Dershowitz on that point. I mean,
I think that we were engaged, and specifically under the
Obama years in this policy of appeasements towards Dran which
was followed through by the Biden administration. And you saw
that the mixed messages that came out of the Biden administration,
even in the first months and you know, I would

(44:40):
say sixty days of the war, where they were already
trying to appease come out and trying to make the Israelis,
which eventually is what they did fight with one hand
behind their backs. And that was that all around. It
was only when the Israelis were able to turn the
corner and make those significant successes that were aparently wise

(45:01):
taking out Habalah, you know, you know, going after run,
moving along when it came to Rau inside of Gazza
that you did see these more military significant moves and
that and that, and that worked well and was for
fortified once Trump came into office in January.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Okay, see you've got Hamas and one of the bodies
that they sent back to Israel is not the body
of a hostage. They must have spare bodies lying around
Gaza all over the place. Uh so the body parts
were not of one of the hostages.

Speaker 6 (45:35):
We know that.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
We also know that they have been executing people in
Gaza city mentioned that before. You know, Trump wants this
deal to work. This is a this is a crowning
achievement for him. This is something that no other president,
to my mind, has been able to pull off. This
is a coalition of countries that have come together to
say this is it, and this is the deal, and

(45:57):
take it or leave it. At what point? At what
point does patients run out? Because if it's not holding
here inside of seventy two hours after that paper was signed.
At what point does patients run out? What is the
line in your opinion that Hamas must not cross, because
if they do, then the deal blows up and then

(46:20):
we're back to military action.

Speaker 11 (46:23):
If we start seeing more rockets flying in from Gazam
back into Israel, and if we start seeing more military
activity attacking israelis I mean, let's be clear here, Israel
is still about fifty five fifty six percent and still
controlling Gazo and so, and if they need to continue

(46:46):
the battle and continue to actually go inward where they
left on those lines, then that'll be a clear red line.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Doctor, this is going to sound like a basic naive question,
but I excel at these kinds of questions, so please
bear with me. We're chatting with doctor s. F. Romerowski, PhD. Well,
he's a doctor, that's why he's a PhD. King's College, London.
Why can't everybody in that area of the country of
the world get along? Is it all religious based? Is

(47:15):
it all historical? Why can't people see that here now
as opposed to what happened in the past and just say,
you know what it's in everybody's best interest financially and
certainly from a health standpoint, to just start getting along
with each other. Why can't that happen?

Speaker 11 (47:31):
Well, I mean, and if we solve that problem might
be out of business. But you know, there's the you know,
these conflicts have been going on for decades and you
know we're all junking aside. I mean, the fact of
the matter is that the conflict is indeed entangled theologically, culturally, politically,
But when it comes in particular to the Israeli Pabalistinian dynamic,

(47:53):
the ultimate fact that rejectionism is always trump statehood, and
the fact that at every point in time where the
Arab Palestinians were offered a state a compromise, they've always
renexed on their promises and they've never followed through. Its
quite telling about their ideology. And Hamas again is not
given up their objective as far as the destruction of

(48:15):
the state of Israel. And so when you have this
black and white binary understanding and the fact that Arab
Palestinians refused to accept Israel's rights to exist, this is
where it all goes on. And you know, this is
a cycle that continues from generation to generation educationally wise,
as an academic, I will tell you I mean the
fact that there is no education towards accepting the other

(48:39):
and accepting Israel's rights with this in peace, whereas Israeli
textbooks indeed do talk about that. That is also part
of the rejectionism that you know, is infusing this ideology
from im a very young age.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Doctor Hamas has to disarm. Who's going to make them
do that?

Speaker 11 (49:02):
I think that we might we will see pressure coming
from the Trump administration to try to get these patrons,
you know, and kind of give carriage. If the Turk
and if the Kataris try to push gazap to uh,
you know, move move along, that could potentially help a deal.
And of course let's not forget the gos in our
Egyptian and so if Egypt gets involved here, that will

(49:24):
be another pressure point to move this along. The more
pressure is coming from the Arab brethren, there is more
of a shot than you could push Kamas. But but
ultimately the ultimate goal is to disentangle Kmas from Palestinian
society such as it is. If you're able to kind
of clean out whatever you can salvage, that's a better

(49:45):
way to go. About this. Kamas is now trying to
reinvent itself as a law and order force, internal security force.
If these are all the trigger and code name that
they're giving themselves as they're going around the streets of
Gaza City and killing their own you know, you know,
you know, executing people left and right. But that needs
to change. The other part of the deal, which was

(50:08):
again another parrot that Wick coffin Trump gave Comas, was amnesty.
That is to say that Hamas leadership could leave Gaza
and go to cut her in Turkey again. Are you
just prolonging and putting a bandit on the problem. That's
my read on the issue. Uh, I mean, we're going
to be in this for a while. Not to mention

(50:28):
the fact that it took Comas twenty years to build
a maye a tunnel, a tunnel maze of Gaza, It'll
take that long to rebuild it. And not to mention
I think last estimates that I saw were like in
the amounts of a circular, you know, circling around one
hundred and twenty one hundred and twenty five billion dollars
that requires to rebuild, rehabilitate and start, you know, and

(50:52):
build something new.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Yeah, well, you're right, you're not going to be out
of business anytime soon. And I know doctor that you're
a very busy guy this day and age, and we
appreciate your time here on seven hundred at WYLW. You
take care, Okay, thank you so much, Thank for having me. Yes, sir,
without a question, Yes, sir, I give it a It's

(51:16):
not going to last. There's something. It's just you. You're
talking about centuries of hostilities, and I think it's tenuous
at best, but at least it's a start. And we'll
see how good some of these other countries are with
regards to this, because there are a lot of countries

(51:36):
that he made deals with that I don't trust either.
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Speaker 5 (51:48):
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I'm broadcasting. She's watching you, I know, ken Brew, I'm watching.
I'm just kind of sitting here, not looking at anybody.
I know she's watching us. I know she's watching you
because she ain't looking at me. By the way, who
the hell is she? That's the police chief. She was
called back from Denver last night at a police conference.

(52:17):
I wonder who did you think she had a foot
the bill for that plane? Or do you think the
city of Cincinnati sent AFT tab one out there? She
flew coach Yeah, probably so middle c or probably probably
grey on.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
Middle seat coach on the Red Eye.

Speaker 12 (52:35):
Yeah, she's probably in Wichita, Kansas right now.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
TG the TG.

Speaker 12 (52:39):
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You know, what's gonna happen in Downtown's like, you know,
they're it's unbelievable. They got a football game down there
tonight and hopefully everything good the football game in town. Yeah,
well you heard Ken Kober. He says, get the hell
out of there immediately after the game end. Hey, if
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guest today was Oga herself. Oga brought it up correct
and and Willie wasn't here for the first time ever.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Well, I would be a poor substitute for will.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
He see you tube?

Speaker 3 (54:03):
Ken Brew.

Speaker 12 (54:05):
Let's see Bengals upday, brought to you by Good Spirits
and Party Town with thirteen convenient locations in Northern Kentucky.
Big game downtown tonight, ken Brew Pittsburgh four and one,
since that he's looking to snap that losing streak of
two and four and the cover coverage begins right after
this at three o'clock.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
Say let me ask you this, yes, sir, how many
Steeler fans you think will be there tonight? And will
they outnumber Bengals fans. I think they'll be.

Speaker 12 (54:32):
There's usually like a fair amount of past Steeler fans
at any game.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
No, I got a book here. I won't give his
real name. Okay, I'm not going to do that, but
let's for for this sake, let's call him Ralph. Okay,
Ralph gets season tickets to the Bengals games, and he
goes to every game except the Steeler game because he
then puts those tickets on stub Hubb or whatever the
hell it is and make hays for his entire rest

(54:57):
of his season tickets. That's what I looked at. I
saw him two days as you go all the game,
I said, what'd you get for those tickets? And let's
just put it this way, he could have bought two
more season tickets for what he got. Here's somebody, here's
some some Stullar, some Stullar fan from that'll be here.
So pa that's coming in and paid Ralph, They'll be here,

(55:18):
ken Brew. You know that because like just like the well,
maybe the Browns fans might not be anymore, but they're
showing up like the Cubs.

Speaker 12 (55:26):
Uh Bengal and Best Bengals coverage. Three o'clock RL Carriers
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show presented by R and L Carriers up all night

(55:47):
with Austin Elmore. Amen. No woman in the world has
ever said that Red's update. Let's see Red's third base
coach Jr. House, Yes, has been hired by the Arizona
Diamondbacks are the same position. He's an Arizona native, so
he's probably home six. So he wants to go home
spend twenty nineteen and to twenty twenty five of the Reds.

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He was the last of the coaching staff on this
current Reds group under David Bell. So Jr. House just
wants to go back home and he got hired by
the Diamondbacks.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Well, you know what I mean that that happens. You
know if somebody said said, list think if you were
hired by a station in like Colorado and you were
very successful there. Yeah, but then the phone call came
from WLW and you said, I got to go home.
I don't care how successful I am here. I got
to go home. True, you would do it right. We
don't begrudge people for doing that.

Speaker 12 (56:42):
Spencer Steer and Key Brian Hayes our finalist for the
Baseball Gold Glove Awards. It's going to be announced November two.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
We don't keep up. Key Brian's not up for any
offensive awards like the Silk Slugger.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
We know that's for sure.

Speaker 12 (56:55):
American League Championship Series Game three last night, Toronto belts
out five homes, thirteen to four, round of the Mariners. Yeah,
Seattle is still up to to one tonight at eight thirty.
Game four. The NLCS resumes tonight in Los Angeles. Dodgers
own a two zero lead against the Brew crew crew
to to night six o'clock.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
They have not named a starting pitcher yet for tonight's games.
Have not You're not going to say so. And Tyler
Glasnell is on the mound for the Dodgers. Another tough one. Now,
let's see college basketball, Ken Brew. Those Cincinnati Bearcats are
going north.

Speaker 12 (57:31):
The exhibition play tomorrow right against the team up north
in Michigan, Xavier and Murray State at the centas Center
Saturday afternoon in exhibition play.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
For some reason, we're broadcasting that game at two o'clock.
Do you do all that if that game is being
being carried live here on WYLW.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
I did not know that.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
Yeah, most of these scrimmages are these exhibition games. They
play for like a half, then they turn the clock off,
then they work on individual drills. I think, I think Joe,
I think the Show and Byron are going to have
a lot of work to do on Saturday. It's not
a typical back and forth game.

Speaker 12 (58:06):
Also, ken Brew, we want to say congratulations that you
see Claremont. Their girls volleyball team is number one in
the nation in the USCAA Division two volleyball pole. There
you go, gratulations absolutely. Hockey tonight Columbus hosting Coloradombs Cyclones.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
They're not very good, are they?

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Either?

Speaker 1 (58:28):
One and two?

Speaker 12 (58:29):
Well it's Cyclones open their season Saturday night against Wheeling.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
Namely three guys on the Cyclones Justin Vive, Paul Lawless, no,
he's retired, and Don Biggs.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
No.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
I think Justin Vive is the only one I can remember.
They turn the roster turns over a lot year to.

Speaker 12 (58:52):
Years, exactly new coach and everything fer Cyclones a new coach,
and the Miami RedHawks ken Brew four and o in
hockey four and oh look out they're gonna do. They're
gonna be the Miami Dolphins of college hockey. Miami's gonna
go fifty and oh in hote.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Oh boy, that's great, Seg. That's good for them. What's
the Ohio University hockey team doing? Can we get some
coverage for them? Why not?

Speaker 6 (59:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (59:16):
Right, I think they're on I think they're on the
Project tonight, Seg. Let me just ask you a question, yes, sir, yeah,
you're not. You don't live in Cincinnati. Do you know
you live in a suburb. We're not going to give
with a suburb, right, but you was if you had
a choice, would you go to that game tonight? Would
you venture into downtown Cincinnati and go to and where

(59:37):
would you park?

Speaker 6 (59:39):
Well?

Speaker 12 (59:40):
I don't know that that football. I don't know I
would probably you.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
Know who's loving all this? Not loving it? But you
know we're gonna make out from all this. Those guys
down by pay Corse Stadium that charged like ninety dollars
to park your car?

Speaker 12 (59:52):
Oh yeah, well, I mean when we were at when
we had the tailgate last year at Longworth, they were
at charge on sixty. Yeah, and I'm sure it's probably
seven it's probably I don't it's probably not the same
this year. It's probably seventy dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Well, you could sit in the stands and just you
could see your car. You just you know, you watch
the game, you keep your eye on your car. Those
guys are going to make out like bandits now a
question for you, Ken Brew.

Speaker 12 (01:00:14):
Yes, the other night I'm watching w c E T
forty eight and that show about King's King Records. Yes, excellent.
You seen that, Yes, I have. It's excellent, unbelievable. I
watched that. I learned stuff. Never even knew. I knew
where it was in Cincinnati, but I had no idea
about what all the stories behind it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Well, you know, missed opportunity on the producers. They should
have had more Bootsy Collins in there, you know what.
I was waiting for that and it never came, you know.
And then and they said that Cincinnati could have been
as big as Sun Records in Memphis, absolutely and Motown
in Detroit, and it would have worked out. You know
that building that that place was in. It just deteriorated

(01:00:57):
over time. I think they were udf ice cream truck.
We're parking inside there at once. See there right right.
You can see it as you're going north on. It's
on your left hand side going north on seventy one.
But it's sat there then, I don't know, maybe fifteen
twenty years ago they put a plaque outside there. This
was once King records, and that thing is rusting or whatever,

(01:01:18):
so it I mean, it could have been. It could
have been. It's like the airport could have been in Cincinnati. No,
it's over in northern Kentucky. I mean all it could
have been said. This could have been a major railway
stop back in the day, but of course it isn't,
and it wasn't.

Speaker 12 (01:01:30):
It could be, it could be.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
Well, that's why I say, we got to get our
arms around our problems and celebrate our victories if we could,
you know, I could use that if I ever ran
for mayor get our arms around our problems and celebrate
our victories. That's what we need to do.

Speaker 12 (01:01:44):
I'd be good on a T shirt. I'd get one.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
I'm a little late for the election cycle this year,
but if it ever comes up again, I just might,
I just might do I got a slogan already.

Speaker 12 (01:01:53):
Yeah, you got the looks. I mean you know, I
mean you know you can be on TV and talk right.

Speaker 11 (01:02:00):
Now, I've had this feeling in my gud of like
I'm holding Ohio in my arms and I'm like, single
handedly like tak envirus.

Speaker 7 (01:02:08):
Stay out.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
Okay, that got as much chance as me, right, but
I know, put you get our arms around our problems
and celebrate our victories. It beats what the guy that
runs this city has on his shirt, which is you
can you can find me in Vancouver.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Yeah that's true.

Speaker 12 (01:02:25):
As this kid wanted to see the boats or something.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
So they get us out of the Steoge Report because
there are a lot of things that are percolating. I'm
going to talk about Charlie Kirk and the Kennedy assassination
and how they're intertwined. What do you hear this one?

Speaker 12 (01:02:36):
Okay, ken brew in honor of a beautiful day here
in the Tri State and go Bengals who day against
those Steelers tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Absolutely we leave you.

Speaker 12 (01:02:45):
With the immortal words of the Stooge Report.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Hey, thanks for having me on.

Speaker 13 (01:02:50):
Guys, I've checked the Nielsen rating, and it's about time
you had me back instead of them fattle out mouths
you've had on the past couple of weeks. So have
me back a little more because the people love the Wizard.
You know what I'm saying, Because I'll see you guys later.

Speaker 12 (01:03:05):
Wow, you know that wizard. That wizard guy could have
been as big as uh as Podreeve can't skipper ryle
uncle Al and the cool goal.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
And to think we did all of that when recreational
marijuana was not legal.

Speaker 12 (01:03:24):
Great writing though, should have won an award for that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
Should have absolutely well show cratered after I left, as
do most of the relationships I'm involved in. I'll see
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Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Two o nine news Radio seven hundred wl W Welcome back.
I am ken Brew. Great to have you with us.
Bengals pregame show in about an hour.

Speaker 11 (01:04:04):
So.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
A couple of days ago in the White House, there
was a large gathering to watch the President of the
United States, Donald Trump, had the Presidential Medal of Freedom
award to the widow of Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk, of
course gunned down in broad daylight about five weeks ago
in Utah, and while the investigation continues into that case,

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they apprehended a suspect in the case about thirty five
thirty six hours after the assassination. The actual process of
gaining evidence and convicting the alleged suspect remains an ongoing process.
There was also, in the course of history a lot
of other times were people who have been taken out

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simply because their views don't align with the view of
the guy with the gun, and invariably the guy with
the gun always wins. There are parallels that can be
drawn to other assassinations, not the least of which the
assassination in nineteen hundred and sixty three of President John
Fitzgerald Kennedy. And for decades my next guest has been
doing research into the JFK assassination and also now here recently,

(01:05:15):
Howard parallels in a lot of ways the assassination of
Charlie Kirk. He is doctor David Mantik. He is a
medical physicist and radiation oncologist, and has just released a book.
JFKY was killed by consensus, Dealey Plaza was just the
final stop. Doctor David Mantick joins us right here and

(01:05:36):
right now in Doctor Mantick, how are you on this
glorious Thursday.

Speaker 5 (01:05:41):
Well, we're enjoying the beach in Klestad, California under Cleibler Sky,
so it's paradise.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
Well, we have clear blue skies here in Cincinnati and
our beach is the Ohio River. So take that as
it may be. But it's great to have you. Have
you join us. Okay, let's just talk about what you
have found as you have dug into the Kennedy assassination,
and then maybe we can draw a parallel to what
has happened with Charlie Kirk. I was old enough to

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remember the Kennedy assassination. I was about eleven years old
when he was murdered in Dallas. Obviously the country was
in great shock. It was not that long after another
great president that was revered in this country, Franklin Delano Roosevelt,
died by natural causes. But nevertheless there was a traumatic time.
And I'm as you've delved into the research, and we

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know what the Warren Commission has said, and we know
what the Church Commission said back in the seventies, and
we know all of these new documents that have just
been released on the order of President Trump.

Speaker 6 (01:06:44):
What have you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
Found in your research that runs concurrent to what we
know or we think we know about the JFK assassination.

Speaker 5 (01:06:53):
Well, the one word that stands out is transparency. We
never really have a transparency in the assassination of JFK.
And that's a clear problem here with Charlie Kirk too.
There's no release of the Autosi report. For example, we're
x rays taken. The x rays, of course, would be

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helpful to show exactly where the bullet was and what
caliber it was. What about facial recognition of Tyler Robinson
the suspect, and facial recognition actually identify him. And what
about the ballistics that supposedly might connect the bullets found

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by the surgeon to the weapons found in the wooded area?
Where's that report? Why can't we see that? Is it
going to come out in the trial? Is the Putt
trial going to be public? How much transparency will we see?

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
Well, let me just put the pause button here. It's
been five weeks. Should we or should they? The FBI
should know if bullet match is gun. There's no question
about that at this point. But why would we expect
to hear that kind of information in a process that

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is still underway to from the government standpoint, get a
conviction on this guy might be jumping the gun a
little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:08:16):
Though I'm not blaming anyone for hiding anything at this point.
I'm basically suggesting to the audience that keep these questions
in mind as we follow this case. These facts should
eventually emerge, and one would expect eventually that they would
become public. Perhaps it is too early now, so I'm
not complaining too much about this flight delay, But in

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the long run, those are the big questions to.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
The Kennedy assassination. We were told from Jump it was
Lee Harvey Oswald. There was a story that he was
in Russia, came back from Russia, that there was Cuban involvement.
New Orleans was a big player in the conspiracy. There
was a mafia boss from Tampa that might have also
come into play. Then we heard, well, the CIA may
be involved. And there are a number of stories that

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were concocted in and around his assassination, some of which
are still with what the government is running with. Even
here now, sixty years after it happened. I'm I'm wondering
what did you find in your research or what did
you find that might be a red flag as to
what we have been told all these many years.

Speaker 5 (01:09:26):
Well, if you go to week A TDA today and
look at I suppose assassin them the JSK case Lee
Harvey Oswald, you will see quite clearly that it says
Lee Harvey Oswald assassinated to Okay playing and bimple dies.

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That surprise you?

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
No, no, it's quite amazing.

Speaker 5 (01:09:53):
Yeah, get suck about sixty two years later.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
Why, I'm sorry, go ahead, I'm sorry to go ahead.

Speaker 5 (01:10:02):
Radiation oncologists. I knew that examination of the X rays
at the archives might prove very useful. In particular, on
the frontal X ray of JFK Skull, there is a
six point five milimeter nearly round object that appears to
be a cross section of a bullet. Unfortunately, the pathologists

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that the autopsy did not report this, and they claimed
they did not see it. So I was curious about
what this really was for. It turns out, after hundreds
of measurements that I made directly on those existing X
rays at the Archives, that it's a face. It was
put on the X ray film within a week or

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sough of the exascinations, and it was not there. The
pathologists were right. It was added later and I was
able to show in the dark room exactly how to
do that. That's a I'll discussed and illustrated in my books.
So I knew that that was a smoking gun. That
object kick Quest not never there in the metal that

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SUP partly represented, was never in the archives. It is
not there today. It's never done there.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
The autopsy was done, if I'm not mistaken, and please
correct me if I'm wrong, was done at the Bethesda
Naval Hospital in Washington, d C. There was a great
amount of consternation as to why, as to not just why,
but whether his body should be moved out of Dallas.
The Dallas authorities said, it was a murder, it happened
to our town, in our town, We're not moving this body.

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The Secret Service had other ideas. They got the body
on Air Force one. They brought it back to d C.
It went to the Bethesda Naval Hospital for autopsy, and
from what I have read, uh that was a crowded room.
It was a doctor that was performing the autopsy. But
there were many secret service and other government of some
say CIA officials that were inside the actual autopsy room

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running roughshot over the guy that was doing the autopsy.
The guy that did the autopsy looked like he was
confident but was under tremendous stress by these other people
who were in the room. Is that true, number one?
And do you think that has anything to do with
what you have discovered?

Speaker 5 (01:12:20):
Yeah, that's a fair summary of what happened. He was
just at the twenty year March for being in the
Navy until his whole feature was hanging in the balance
on whether or not he followed military directions that night,
so he really had no choice. He had to do
exactly what they told him to do. For example, James Jenkins,

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who was there at the autopsy all night long, and
his stud who still lives and who I have interacted
with many times, reports that there was a bullet entry
rooms in the right temple and when he and the
assistant the pathologists were going to explore it, they were

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immediately told to stop by doctor he was the chief thethologist.
After he was called over by one of the high
ranking military people and he was told just to ignore
that so they did not have any freedom to exercise
their professional skill for that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
This is sixty years. As I said, down the road
there was there was, I think a philosophy that is true,
bearing I don't have any information of this. I think
the government was trying to keep the American public from
turning into some sort of chaotic group that you know,
if they had found out the quote unquote real story,

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we couldn't handle it as an American people. But here
we are, sixty years down the road. We've had the
Warrant Commission, which you know, truthfully just seemed like an
endorsement of the lone gunman and basically a rubber stamp
of what the government wanted to say. The man that
shot Kennedy, the alleged loan assassin, he was murdered two

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days later. We had the Church Commission. As I recall,
back in the seventies, Frank Church, a US congressman, headed
a commission that said that there probably was another gunman.
And yet that kind of got you buried in more
government speak. And then these other documents that came out

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in the last couple of years seemed to have no
real relevance to what the whole investigation was about. My
point being is we've been running with the same story
for sixty years. And if the government's intention was to
keep this information from us because we would turn into

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a nation of complete chaos, well, most of us that
were around in nineteen sixty three, unfortunately, are dead or
are marching towards it. What are they protecting us from now? Why?
You know, when Trump says I'm going to release the
files and we're going to get all these out, well,
if the files are the same basically as what we
saw or were led to believe sixty years ago, why

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are they still Why are they still running the same game?

Speaker 5 (01:15:14):
Well, I think the intelligence community has a lot of
good reasons to hide this stuff because they're so embarrassed
by what it would show. And we've just not too
long ago, had a wonderful relief that demonstrates this.

Speaker 14 (01:15:28):
When the House Select Committee in the seventies was reinvestigating
this case, one of the liaisons between the CIA and
the House was George Gianides. Well, the House committee did
not know that Jianides was one of the prime conspirators

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working with the anti Castro Cubans in nineteen sixty three,
and so that document has only recently been released and
as a result of his he's so.

Speaker 5 (01:16:00):
Called excellent works Unity was awarded a medal by the
CIA because he kept this information from the house.

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
My gosh, JFK. JFK was killed by consensus. Deally pleasant
was just the final stop. It's authored by our guests,
doctor David Mantike. He has written other books on this
as well. We talked about the Charlie Kirk assassination. How
our antenna has to be up on exactly who this
person was that killed him. Was he motivated or financed

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or in some way, shape or form co op by
other people. You know, they're but the grace of God
by about a quarter of an inch, Donald Trump would
have been murdered in July of twenty twenty four, and
yet we know nothing about the guy that shot him.
They cleaned that place up like it was some maid
service that was on deadline. The body gone, the blood gone,

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and it wasn't you know, it wasn't a cleaning crew
that did it. It was the federal government that did it.
So here we go. It could have been the same
damn thing all over again.

Speaker 5 (01:17:11):
Right. Yes, a lot of secrets are still getting held there.

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
Yes, well, doctor, what is the what is the what
are the chances that will ever be told the real story?
Because there have been books written about the conspiracy of JFK.
And you know what the works are, and you know
who the authors are. They started coming out within a
year of his assassination. But what do you think the

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chances are of the government ever coming clean on this
and it happening in your lifetime?

Speaker 5 (01:17:44):
No, they won't. But we can learn this without them.
That's what my book is about. The now. How the
list of real names, the real people of the public,
names that a lot of people were recognized, what Melts
and Rockefeller, people who knew what was going to happen.
Twelve will be to serve under MacArthur in the Pacific.
Hl Hunt, These are all prominent names that you know

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are on the list of people who sponsored the execution
I call it. And hl Hunt had sixty times as
much money as the Kennedys, so he could have hundred
many such executions if he had wanted to.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
Astounding doctor Mantek, interesting things and how these two assassinations
paralleled each other, And no, I never bought the Lee
Harvey Oswald explanation. He might have been. He might have
been at best of Patsy. I never bought that for
a second. And we'll never know, unfortunately, unless people like

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you continue to do work. But you've got to have
information to do this kind of work, and it is
guarded secrets. And I just don't understand why the government
just doesn't come clean. You know, there's there's empowerment doctor, Really,
when you admit something as opposed to trying to keep
covering it up, covering it up, whether it's whether it's
a government or in your personal life, there's empowerment in that.

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And I don't think the people in Washington have figured
that part out. Good luck on your future work, Good
luck with this book, doctor, Thank you so much for
your time.

Speaker 5 (01:19:19):
Oh it's been a pleasure. Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:19:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
There he is, doctor David Mantick. And again his book
is JFK was killed by consensus. Deally Plaza was just
the final stop and he names names. It's coming up
on two twenty five. It is the average American in
for the Great American News Radio seven hundred w l W.

Speaker 6 (01:19:42):
And that's how it should be. And so that'd being said,
I'll shut up and open it up with questions.

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
Hello, bye, I'm broadcasting. Mike tom is back in town.
That's right, Mike Tomlin's back in town. That is correct.
You know what he told us this week? You know
what he told us.

Speaker 6 (01:20:09):
I would imagine there'll be a certain level of excitement.

Speaker 9 (01:20:12):
Man, those guys having Joe Flacco in a home venue
on a Thursday night.

Speaker 6 (01:20:16):
It's some primetime ball.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
Primetime ball.

Speaker 9 (01:20:19):
We covered that as well. Yes, we love going into
hostile environments. We love the visual play.

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
We covered that.

Speaker 9 (01:20:24):
I certainly love and respect and appreciate being a component
of primetime football.

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
You want to be a component of something. What are
you a component of? Seg What would you say if
someone said to you, I'm a component of and you
would say hard media.

Speaker 6 (01:20:36):
That's what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
You're a component of of that. I think so well,
you've been there a long time. They give you a
lot of swag to wear, you know, they give his shirts.
I've never gotten anything, you know, for my time here,
like a shirt or anything, a bug, nothing. It's like
to show up and fill in is what it is.

Speaker 12 (01:20:55):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (01:20:56):
Come like it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:57):
Come down that fire pole from the seventh floor where
I bunk. We bunk up there me and Sterling and
Gary Jeff on the roof. Yeah, we got a little
we got a little bachelor pad up there.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:21:07):
And then when somebody calls in sick or you know,
sloan has to have sloan has to rehab a bathroom
or something, they just bring it up there and I
come right down the pool. I'll fill in.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
Look at how about it?

Speaker 12 (01:21:18):
You know that that's I gotta find that place. I
haven't I come up and visit you.

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
Well, I would suggest so you and Gary Jeff and Sterling, right,
come on the thirtieth. The Hawkens Steve Hawkins is up there.
Come on the thirtieth of every month because the place
is cleaned on the twenty ninth. It's once a month. Boy,
we have someone to come in and clean it. It's
a little crunchy up there right now. But you know,
come up like that right before Halloween. We'll have you

(01:21:43):
up there for.

Speaker 12 (01:21:43):
Like, like you guys got to give out that candy.
We're giving out candy. We are you know, we're throwing
off the roof right, We're giving out mounds.

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
We're giving out mounds. Bar Yeah, are good, right, but
come up there because it gets lonely up there. Gary
Jeff likes to read. Yeah yeah, at Hawkins. You know
he's he's you know, he's back to being coherent.

Speaker 12 (01:22:05):
He's up there. You know, he likes that he's got
a telescope that he looks at.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
The absolute now Stirling. I mean, he's like got a
corner of the room where he sits with his legs crossed,
and you know there's like incense, Yeah, incense is going
up and he chances I'm one with the universe. I'm
one with the universe. But other than that, it's a
very nice place he should come up.

Speaker 12 (01:22:24):
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Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
Thank you, Roxy, Thank yeah Amen.

Speaker 12 (01:22:46):
Pittsburgh four and one Bengals look to snap that four
game losing streak tonight at two and four. They meet
tonight at pay Course Stadium, right there along the Big
River Mountain.

Speaker 6 (01:22:55):
I get him the collection of men in the depth
of that talentngles up.

Speaker 12 (01:23:00):
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Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
Now, who's that guy saying Bengals.

Speaker 12 (01:23:10):
That's Alan Cutler. Oh wow, the longtime former UH co
host of the Bengals radio network.

Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
Somebody told me he wrote a book.

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
Yeah he did.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
Did you read it?

Speaker 3 (01:23:23):
No?

Speaker 12 (01:23:24):
I haven't No, No, he wrote it with the UH.
You know when he and Hood he chase the football.
The basketball coach at one day made face. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I think it's something with I don't forget what the name.

Speaker 1 (01:23:39):
Of the book is.

Speaker 6 (01:23:40):
This is tough, this hurt. Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:23:43):
Bengals Bengals Best Bengals Coverage three o'clock Ornell Carriers pregame
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Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
Bengal fans, all the people that have come through this
around it get to a show just by name and names,
we could dig up some bones.

Speaker 12 (01:24:03):
Live from the Depressing, Live from the Holy Grail tonight
at seven seven outd of WLW. Kickoff is at eight
point fifteen and then Austin Elmore after the game, roll
into the night with the Tri State Chevy Dealers post
game show resented by Arnel carriers. And hopefully, I tell you,
I hope he I hope they win.

Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
That's gonna be a long night.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
What happens to him if they lose this or something?

Speaker 11 (01:24:29):
That?

Speaker 5 (01:24:29):
Nothing?

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
I mean, it's being the same old thing, all right.

Speaker 12 (01:24:32):
Maybe you take updates on the crime and downtown after
the game or something. Well, you know, phone in, you know,
he'll take phone calls on that NLCS of rezumes. Tonight
in Los Angeles, Dodgers up two oh and we're against
the brew Crew at six. Then the Mariners and the
Blue Jays go at it in Seattle, game for the
Alcs and eight thirty with the Mariners.

Speaker 2 (01:24:53):
Up to oh or two one.

Speaker 1 (01:24:55):
Excuse me, hey, seg I got a question for you, Yes, sir,
what were you doing? What were you doing? Forty nine
years ago today? Forty nine years ago today, Stevie Wonder.
Stevie Wonder released the album Songs in the Key of Life.
It went to number one on the US album charts

(01:25:18):
and spawned a number of hits. I wish, Isn't She
lovely and of course hit it, sir, Duke.

Speaker 6 (01:25:24):
Music days a Robert than itself.

Speaker 2 (01:25:28):
The language be all unders.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
It's called hitting the post. You know that, though I
know I'm Casey case and keep your feet on the
ground and keep reaching for the stars.

Speaker 12 (01:25:39):
Let's see Houston has been picked to when the.

Speaker 1 (01:25:41):
Piece TENO say's I know, I know, not Stevie Wonder,
but Casey Casey.

Speaker 12 (01:25:47):
Yeah, yeah, Houston picked the wind is the favorite to
win the Big twelve men's basketball in the preseason poll.
B Yu a second, Texas Tech third, Yeah, Wes Miller,
Cincinnati bear Cats eighth.

Speaker 1 (01:26:01):
They got some dude that's seven. Is he seven foot
nine or something like that?

Speaker 12 (01:26:05):
Yeah, something, But they got their other big man at
six eight. The Hayes is out for a while. Well,
that lower body injury, but oh they had one of those.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
I had one of those. Said, I got a lower
body injury many years ago. It's not pleasant.

Speaker 12 (01:26:17):
I think I've had one since I've been born. Well,
it's it's better than a middle body injury. I can
tell you that I got one of those too. Also,
ken Brew, we say Congress, good luck, good luck to
Zach Russ, nineteen year old out of Fort Thomas. He
balances his life and is aspiring MMA fighter and a
certified nursing assistant.

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
Wait a minute, he's a nurse and he beats people up.

Speaker 12 (01:26:42):
Well, he's gonna Russ is going to make his professional
MMA the debut what Saturday at the Mega Corp Pavilion
in Newport.

Speaker 1 (01:26:51):
No kidding, I mean I did not know this. Yep,
he's thought you were a kidding there. He's a nurse
that he's an MMA fighter.

Speaker 12 (01:26:58):
He was inspired by the a UFC during the pandemic.
He began this combat sports journey by joining his high
school wrestling team. Oh okay, that's great. He's going to
make his debut in Newport on the Saturday. Good luck
to Fort Thomas. Beautiful, great town North.

Speaker 6 (01:27:18):
I love.

Speaker 1 (01:27:18):
I like Fort Thomas.

Speaker 12 (01:27:19):
Good luck to him.

Speaker 11 (01:27:21):
I like that. Sey.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
What else do we have here today? That's all we got,
ken Brew? I think that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:25):
What's going to happen tonight in the stadium. Give me
a winner, give me a score.

Speaker 12 (01:27:29):
I think the Bengals win tonight, ken Brew, you think
they win? Yes, thirty to twenty one.

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
So you're looking for a lot of points tonight, Yes,
thirty to twenty one. Tonight they beat the Steelers.

Speaker 12 (01:27:40):
Or it could be seven to three, could be they lose. Right, Yeah,
they're doing for a win win Amen. And you know what,
ken Brew, The key of to me is they got
to come out fast. They got to play like they
have in the past couple of games. They played big
time in the second half. They got to move that
to the first half. You got what they gotta do.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
You gotta get down there and tell him that because
I don't think they're getting I don't think Zach Taylor
is getting through.

Speaker 12 (01:28:06):
Whatever he's telling them is, don't defer the kickoff, take
the ball.

Speaker 1 (01:28:09):
Get the points.

Speaker 12 (01:28:10):
Spingo.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
I want to see what the other team does before
I get the ball. He just cares what the other
team does. You got the ball, you do something.

Speaker 12 (01:28:17):
Well, you saw where money Mack had a sixty seven
yard or the other day he could kick it from
he could kick it from from Norwood and make the
field goal.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
He had a sixty seven yard but it didn't didn't
count because he run around here, say he had a
sixty sei yet, well it didn't get next and.

Speaker 12 (01:28:33):
Then at the crossbar and went in instead of if
he would have done that, he probably would have bounced out.

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
And what happened the next time he tried, like like
two seconds later. The guy always ran it back for
a touchdown.

Speaker 12 (01:28:44):
I'll love i'llah the what the Auburn game years ago,
few years ago with Alabama or something.

Speaker 1 (01:28:49):
So I don't care what people do when it doesn't count.
I care about what people do when it counts. Okay,
all right, see what I'm saying here.

Speaker 2 (01:28:56):
I got you.

Speaker 1 (01:28:57):
Well, it makes no difference what you say in the
practice booth there at wyl W. It's what you do
when you're sitting in here with us. One point. The
world is full of what might have been. You want
to be the guy who is the guy that makes
it happen.

Speaker 3 (01:29:12):
I'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:29:13):
That's the thing. Another thing for my T shirt too,
When it's going to be a million seller, it could
be under you know, well, you know what, I'll just
give it. Who's the guy, the the comedian with the
sincy shirt store. I'll give it a hemy Jos Josh Need. Yeah,
you give him a slogan and a picture logo and
a picture he'll he'll sell it for like thirty dollars
and go.

Speaker 12 (01:29:32):
You know, you get half of it put my little
on there, royalty, just.

Speaker 1 (01:29:37):
My little face on there. Just you know, it's what
you do now is what matters.

Speaker 3 (01:29:41):
There.

Speaker 1 (01:29:41):
You go say, get us out of the Stewoge report
because apparently we have to be out early. There's something
called a whoopsie who day. And then after that it's
it's the boys from the grail.

Speaker 12 (01:29:52):
Ken brew it unter of hood, a nation and a victory.
Hopefully tonight we leave you with the immortal words of
the stew Dripple. Yeah that's Tom Tinkle.

Speaker 15 (01:30:10):
My dentist thinks that that really is somebody with bad
gas what he does on time right either Yeah, there's
some guy that.

Speaker 16 (01:30:23):
Can do that onto it might be I don't know. Yeah,
win the game for since him, naddie, Yeah, play it
he does. It's an elephant all the things, the elephant
with bad gas.

Speaker 17 (01:30:36):
Excuse me, and if you've ever been around an elephant
with bad gas, you don't want.

Speaker 12 (01:30:41):
To be or that that again, he's that can smell
it from the zoo from here it is, I'm just
telling you our rhino.

Speaker 1 (01:30:49):
Do they still play this at the games?

Speaker 3 (01:30:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
Oh yeah, good, good good.

Speaker 17 (01:30:53):
Andrew Whitworth at the Ruler of the Jungle tonight Andrew Woodworth,
you know else's in town fixing Ryan Fitzpatrick fitzi fitzy
Ryan Fitzpatrick or is it Patrick fitz Ryan?

Speaker 5 (01:31:07):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:31:07):
Is Ryan Fitzpatrick. When he's at the game tonight, what if.

Speaker 12 (01:31:09):
It'll rip his shirt off after the post game show
on TV.

Speaker 1 (01:31:13):
I don't know, man, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:31:14):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:31:14):
I remember when when he was here, it looked like
he he actually made games exciting in a season that
he was not very exciting.

Speaker 6 (01:31:22):
I mean, that dude put it up.

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
Amen to them, you got Nember, what's going to happen next?

Speaker 1 (01:31:26):
But he just made it exciting. And they and they
and you know what, they still haven't replaced Whitworth.

Speaker 12 (01:31:34):
He may he make me if he didn't like the
first half, he may suit up the second half.

Speaker 1 (01:31:39):
We gotta go because we got Whoopsie who Day and
then we got we got the boys from the Grails,
So we can't. We can't dawdle here, you know what
I mean? I got you, thank you, yes, Sir can Bruce.
Later he is seg walking out the door. That'll do
it for me. I don't know when will he's back,
but I know I'm not filling in for him tomorrow,
and the rest of the stuff is mere. Details on
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