Sunday Morning Sports Talk with Ken Broo -- 10/5/25

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now News Radio seven hundred WLW presents Sunday Morning Sports
Talk with your host Ken Brew on News Radio seven
hundred WLW, as.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
We dig in and here we go Bengals football later
on this afternoon at four twenty five. It's a late kick.
Network probably looked at this game back in the day
and they thought, hm, Bengals Lions, that ought to be
a good one. Of course, we know the history of
both of these teams. The Lions at three and one,
the Bengals are two and two, and on paper, which

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no one ever plays on. On paper, it looked like
a pretty good matchup. But as we know, it is
a little bit different. Joe Burrow not available, and the
Bengals have been reeling the last couple of weeks. So
what do they do. Well, Apparently, you go back to
where you began, and that is figuring out a way
to put the most competitive team on the field that

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started all the way back in February, of course with
Joe Burrow. Now no Joe Burrow. Nevertheless, it's not like
to give you any sympathy any time off or any
kind of slack in the NFL. You line up and
you play with what you got. Zach Taylor knows that
I've been preaching about it all week, probably has talked

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to his team a lot about it, Probably talk to
his team about just how it was unacceptable. We knew
it was unacceptable. Hopefully now the team knows it was
unacceptable what happened the last couple of weeks. Here's Taylor
earlier in the week.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
I love personally playing playing these types of games. These
are my favorite games to play. This is why we
do it.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
Again.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Our backs against the wall a little bit going in
this game off of two losses.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
That's perfect.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
You know, I'd like to see how everybody responds, who
lives in fear, who thrives in the university. It's it's
a great opportunity for a coach to really assess what
guys are made of.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Myself included.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Well, no, your your back is really up against the
wall because it you know, you take them one game
at a time. That's coach speak, but it's right. You
just you only you only can deal with what's in
front of you, and you play them one at a time.
But let's just look at the lands Escape. You're two
and two. You've got arguably one of the top three
offenses in the game right now, coming to play you
today at four to twenty five in the Lions. Then

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you've got to go to Green Bay, and then you
come home and play Pittsburgh. If you're going to jumpstart
this thing, why not jump start it against one of
the best teams in the league. We'll get into this
a lot in the next three hours. There is much
more to get to and a lot going on as
we settle all matters here on Sunday mornings. And let's
start with college football yesterday at Knippert Stadium. What a

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magnificent atmosphere and what a win for the University of
Cincinnati thirty eight to thirty over number fourteen Iowa State.
This game had Cincinnati race out to a quick seventeen
to nothing lead in the first quarter and route to
a four hundred and seventy four day of total yards,
two hundred and sixty yards of which came on the ground.

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Brendan sorosby workmanlike, if not terrific, thirteen of twenty five
and three touchdowns. Evan Pror ten carries one hundred and
eleven yards and a couple of touchdowns, and all of that, well,
you didn't have to tell Zach Taylor how big a
day it was on the field and in the stands.

Speaker 5 (03:14):
That's a huge win for us in our in our
program to be able to go, you know, toe to
toe with a team like that that has been, you know,
one of the best teams arguably the last ten years
in this league. So, you know, proud of our guys
for that, and I'm you know, proud of our fans
and our atmosphere that we had to day to be
able to play in front of that.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
You may want to fix the hum in that multipox
before the next news conference. Nevertheless, Prior was absolutely outstanding.
Ten carries, one hundred and eleven yards. It was his
first multiple touchdown game in his college career.

Speaker 6 (03:44):
Here's Prior, you know, in the in the runner back room,
we got a lot of trust in those guys up front,
you know, so we just do our part, you know,
stand on track things like that, you know, and let
them take care of the rest. You know, we know
we're gonna they're gonna get us to a second third level.
We just got to be great from there.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
And if not great, they were really really good you
yesterday as they go to four and one two and
zero inside the Big twelve and welcoming Central Florida Indian
effort next Saturday for a noon kickoff, and the Godfather
was back. This defense, as you well know if you're
a UC fan, is night and day. When they have
Dante Corleone Junior in the middle, he just clogs up

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a lot of space. He's been here for the good times,
he's been here for the not so good times. This
is a good time for him. And he knows what
all of those bad times, those struggles and everything that
led to this. He knows that that's a major reason
why things are well humming for the University of Cincinnati
right now.

Speaker 7 (04:39):
We was so banged up last year, but we didn't
make it excuse we fought our butt off. But this year,
our team, man, it is just a different feeling, you know.
Just the look on our faces says it all. Like
last your team would have definitely photoed as soon as
they score touching and we're up. So I've definitely seen
that today and just sorts you, bro, like that's what
we've been missing since des Ritter like leadership like him

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coming to pump us up before that big drive we stop.
So is this the leadership on his team goes along way.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Well, it sure did yesterday thirty eight thirty over Iowa State.
Again you see four and one with Central Florida coming
to Nipper It for a noon kickoff this Saturday. Meanwhile,
up in Columbus, Ohio State forty two Minnesota three, this
game was about as one side as that score would indicate.
Julian's saying twenty three of twenty seven, three hundred and

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twenty six yards, three touchdowns, no interceptions, and his head
coach couldn't be saying any more about Julian saying than
what he says right here.

Speaker 8 (05:39):
I think you're seeing his confidence improve every week. And
you know, how we do it is everything's thought out.
Not everything always goes to plan, but we're very deliberate
about how, you know, we try to bring along our
our quarterbacks. Sometimes, you know, we have to maybe put

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them in situations that they're maybe not ready for. But
when you have a defense like we do right now,
that's playing the way we do, you can bring them
along in a certain way. And you're seeing every week
Julian play with more and more confidence.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, and listen, he knows how to distribute the ball
Carnell Tate nine receptions, one hundred and thirty eight yards
in a touchdown. Not to say Jeremiah Smith didn't have
a big game yesterday. He did a lot of different things,
and quite frankly, when you watch Smith when he doesn't
have the ball, his blocking downfield is just terrific. So
Tate had those nine catches and the touchdowns. Ohio State

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four hundred and seventy four total yards, three hundred and
forty one through the air. Ohio State hummin five and
oh two and oh in the Big Ten next week
at number twenty two Illinois. That is a noon kick
in Champagne, and things are going very well for the
University of Illinois as well. That should be a very

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good Big Ten game next week number one oh High
State five and zero. Meanwhile, down in Georgia, it ain't
happening for the University of Kentucky. They fall thirty five
to fourteen. Look, George is a good team, and yes,
Cutter Bowley was okay twenty five of forty one, two
twenty five, two touchdowns, one interception, UK which fell behind

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early and probably didn't want to run as much as
or to get to run as much as it would
have liked youk only had forty five yards on the
ground and there was really nothing I would say that
was outstanding about anything that the University of Kentucky did yesterday.
And right now, that team is reeling two and three,
oh and three inside the SEC, and it really hasn't

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won a game of any significant since beating Ole Miss
last year. Last year, Mark Stoop says he's getting sympathy
from no one. Mark Stoop says, look, his team is
not the only team that's reeling right now. You know
that that's there.

Speaker 9 (08:00):
I mean, you think we're the only ones, you know
what I mean, Like, nobody feels sorry for you in
this league. Nobody's kinda I mean throughout the country. You
think we're the only people. I mean, that happens, and
so you got to block it out, go back to work.
And you know that's what matters to me, and that's
what I told them. You know, it's about continuing to
stay very possible.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
We're not even halfway through this season. Yet we played
five you know, so we had seven games left. Now
Kentucky is now two and three, as they said, oh
to three in the SEC. They get a bye next week,
which would be welcome. Speaking of teams that are really
this is outside the area. But how about Penn State.
Penn State goes out to play at UCLA. U CLA
fires its coach last week. UCLA had won a game

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all year. UCLA was a twenty four and a half
point underdog, and UCLA beat Penn State yesterday forty two
to thirty seven. Penn State now three and two. Meanwhile,
Miami goes to two and three one to er in
the MAC They beat Northern noh Oi twenty four fourteen.
Quarterback Kwon Finn fourteen of twenty six one's seventy a
touchdown and a rushing touchdown On top by that, Jerome

(09:01):
ag blocked a punt in the end zone. Miami got
a safety out of it and a win twenty four
to fourteen. Final. Next week, Miami goes to Akron, Ohio University.
This may be the worst loss in the Midwest for
any team. Ball State beat them twenty to fourteen. Wall
State's not good Ou was worse yesterday, losing almost at

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the gun on a forty three yard touchdown pass Anderson
walks into Mount Saint Joe and Mount Saint Joe smaxsim
around forty one. Twenty one was the final. Yesterday, Mount
Saint Joe goes to two and two, but Thomas Moore
falls again twenty one to fifteen. Lake Erie comes into
Northern Kentucky and walks away with a twenty one to
fifteen win. Thomas Moore is now o and five on

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the season FC Cincinnati. We'll get into where they're all
at about right now and talk a little baseball as well.
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Sports Talk. Bengals tick it off late today for twenty
five against the Lions last night out East Uh They
call them, the New York Red Bulls, but I believe
they play in New Jersey, don't they. They always get
geography messed up out there. FCC one, New York Red Bulls.
Nothing as FC Cincinnati goes to nineteen nine and five

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and they have clinched home field advantage through Round one
of the MLS playoffs, and they can clinch second place
in the Eastern Division with a winning a couple of
weeks when they play their next game against Montreal. Yeah,
they don't play again for a couple of weeks. Twelve
minutes into this match last night, Kevin Denke put home

(12:21):
the ball and that was it. It's all it took,
It's all it took that one goal, and FC Cincinnati wins,
its nineteenth of the season and moments to live for.
According to Pat Noonan.

Speaker 13 (12:33):
Took one special moment from Kevin to change the game,
but certainly an important win at a crucial time.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
And then that moment led to yet another moment.

Speaker 13 (12:45):
When we get those moments right, like you saw with Kevin,
it allows us to either get out into space and
attack or allows us to just maintain possession move up
the field.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
So I think we can get better answer that text Pat. Nevertheless,
second place is within reach with a winn in a
couple of weeks against Montreal. Philadelphia wins last night, so
they win the Supporter Shield for the best overall record
inside the MLS in its regular season. Also, what last
night did is most probably assured FC Cincinnati a place

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in next year's Concacaffe Cup. You know what that's all about.
We've had that here before. So there was that, and
then there was this noon with an update on one
of his best players, Matt Miosga, who's had a foot
injury and he's been out apparently in training last week
suffered a setback, so he's out three to four weeks,

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and that would certainly call into question whether or not
he'd be available for either Round one or if they
make it Round two of the MLS playoffs. But nevertheless,
reveling in a one nil win after that outing last
night out on the East Coast over the New York
Red Bulls Baseball National League Championship Series last night, Milwaukee

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took the hurt stick to the Cubs nine to three.
In the final, Dodgers beat the Phillies five to three.
Both of those series, Cubs and Brewers Dodgers and Phillies
take today off. They'll play Game two in that series
tomorrow night. Cubs at Milwaukee at nine, Dodgers and Phillies
at six. American League Championships Division Series, I should say

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Detroit three Seattle two. Game two is tonight at eight.
The Yankees just got smacked bad by Toronto ten to one.
The Blue Jays win. Game two in that series is
at four o'clock this afternoon, so they're in lies. Baseball
Live Soccer. And as for the Reds, they of course

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went out to Los Angeles, played a best of three
and the best of three just turned into two quick
wins for the Dodgers. And I mean, you watch the games,
I'm sure you saw there was a decided disadvantage offensively
between what the Dodgers could do what the Reds could do.
There was only a brief appearance by Nick Lodolo, Andrew

(15:11):
Abbott never got to pitch Hunter Green. What was it
the fourth or fifth pitch he threw wound up in
the outfield seats. It just it wasn't there. And the
Reds need to do a lot of things in the offseason.
I mean a lot of things. You would think a
team that qualifies for the playoffs doesn't have a lot
to do. They've got to figure out where to put
Ellie Dayla Cruz. They got to figure out they've got

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to move them matter shortstop. They've got to figure out
to find a power bat, some bat somewhere, trade free agent,
signing somebody that can drill the ball, because waiting on
the kids it's just not working, Okay. I mean, the
kids can do so much. Waiting on them it gets
you in the conversation, it doesn't get you going home happy.

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So I think they've got a lot of that to do.
They've got decisions to make. A pitching Rhet louder Is
going to the Arizona Fall League. This year was a
wash for him. He still can be a major player
in this team at the major league level. Got to
figure out what they want to do with Chase Burns,
what the rotation looks like next year. It's a lot
of heavy lifting for a team that made the playoffs.

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But they asked Terry Francona after the second loss, the
one where the Dodgers clinched this week, what he took
away from the series, what he looked at from this season.
Actually that led to that series against the Dodgers, and
I really thought this was a great answer because it
combines the emotion of what you're feeling when it all ends,

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but understanding that you actually did get there.

Speaker 14 (16:43):
It's hard to know what to take away right now
because it's so fresh and raw. You know, everybody's hurting.
Only one team can go home at the end on
their own terms, and it's not us this year. You know,
the sea and doesn't just wind down, it just comes
to a crashing halt, and that's kind of hard sometimes

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to you know, make your peace.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
With Yeah, Matt Snyder from cbssports dot com is going
to join us to talk about the state of the
Reds going forward, what they need to do, and how
the front office really needs to step up. I think
they got snake bit a little bit. You know, they
signed Mike Mustakis and that didn't work out. The COVID
came and I think they got jitterate after that, and

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then they had that ill fated signing with Jmr Candelario
and so maybe they just they backed off a little
bit with free agent signings. But there are some power
bats that are out there and should be available this
offseason and This team is just crying out for one
of those you know, somebody that can hit the ball well,
play one of the corner outfield spots, play first base,

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somebody that could play second or short, that can just
lift the middle of that order up. I think that's
job one. But anyway, we'll get into it with Shean
coming up in just a little bit, along with a
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Speaker 2 (22:20):
I don't want to rule the world. I'd sure like
to have Jake Browning play a game and does not
throw an interception. I'll settle for that today. Browning's line
so far filling in for Joe Burrow. He's completed sixty
four percent of his throws, three touchdowns, five interceptions. He's

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been sacked to seven times. It's not all Browning don't know, No, no, no,
let's not play that game. I mean there are other
mitigating factors as to why this team isn't playing well.
Offensive line, a defense that seemingly forgets how to tackle.
There's a lot of things going on one way or

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the other. We just need to see more today against
the Allions, more than what we saw against the Vikings,
more than what we saw against you know what, I
just want to forget about the last two weeks. We
just need to see more. And even Browning knows that.

Speaker 21 (23:17):
I think the main, like I said, just the main
focus for us is just more more of yourself to it,
put more time into it. And you know, I'm going
to do everything I can to make sure that I'm
leaving no stone unturned and showing up someday with given

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our chance of our team the best chance to win.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Well, you know again, he's he's got his hands full
with the Lions defense today, and it's it's not that again.
Not not having Joe Burrow is really a big deal,
as we know, not just because of what he can do,
but the other things that maybe aren't so strong about
this franchise that Burrow with his play can make up with.

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Does that make sense? His play can hide a lot
of deficiencies and it's unfair to throw those things completely. Then,
on the back of Jake Browning, Mike Renner is joining
us right now. He is the host of a really
good podcast. You should listen to it if you're into
the NFL. It's called Pushing the Pile. I listened to it.
I think it's out two or three times a week. Nevertheless,

(24:25):
when it comes out, I listen to Renner because he
gets into some really deep dive stuff with his co host.
And I asked Mike if he would join us today
to talk about not just not just the Bengals in
its plight, but also what's going on here with Jake Browning.
Mike Renner, how are you on this glorious Sunday. I'm
doing fantastic Theys for having me on Ken. I don't

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think Jake Browning in a vacuum is a bad quarterback.
I'm not saying that. I don't think he's going to
start and lead a team to a super Bowl. I
don't think he's a bad quarterback. But this is an
offense that was designed by and large around Burrow. Burrow
can extend plays, Burrow has chemistry, which I think you
compound that with their inability to run. And you've got
what you've got right now. So even if you look

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at it, you say, Okay, this probably isn't going to
be a season that ends with Mike Brown hoisting a
super Bowl trophy over's head. What do you do if
you're Zach Taylor, You've got this after four games and
you know you still have thirteen games to go, what
do you do? I mean, here's that.

Speaker 22 (25:28):
I don't think it's completely over right, Like I'm not
completely packing it in. It's scene ended right now. They
still be in the playoffs. The AFC is kind of
wide open. It's not as good as we thought, but
you do have to get the running game better like that,
you have to try something else than what you've been
doing the first few weeks, because I saw the stats
in CBS research, is the first team ever to go

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under fifty five yards in the Super Bowl era rushing
under fifty five yards rushing each of their first four games. Like,
it's just been a complete ineffect that they've had from
running game in terms of just like no impact on
the game. So I have to play all of it
on your quarterback every single week, and that quarterback's not
Joe Burrow. Yeah, you're just not going to win a
lot of games.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
So you got to figure out. You just got to
toss more plays out.

Speaker 22 (26:13):
You got to figure out what this offensive line can
do from a cohesiveness standpoint and try to lean into that.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
I think if you can get Chase Brown outside, I
think you can do damage. I think if you can
use Chase Brown, as they used to call it years ago,
a safety valve, if you can get him involved in
the passing games somehow and use that passing game to
equate to runs, I think he's effective. But it still
doesn't solve the issue of tackle to tackle and running inside,

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and I think that seems to be where they're struggling
the most. You can't switch everybody up. You can't try
different plays and say, whoops, I hope that'll work. So
at that point, at that point, is it strategy? Is
it just trying to get to the bye week, which
comes for them still about a month away. I'm just
trying to figure out you're as a fan if you

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look at this and you say, yeah, I really want
to I really want to believe that this is going
to be a good season eventually. I really want to
believe that they can win some games. I really want
to believe, as you just said that this this American
Football Conference is a little weak this year. They've got
injury problems in Baltimore. You know, Buffalo looks great, but
after that, everybody looks featable. I mean, if you're a fan,

(27:23):
what are you looking for, particularly in this game today
against the Lions.

Speaker 22 (27:28):
So if they're silver lining, it's Jig Browning led them
back to that win against Jacksonville and then the next
two weeks. The defenses you faced are arguably two of
the five best defense in the NFL, and like probably
the defenses if you're a backup quarterback that are the
most difficult to go again because Brian Flores is the
most creative defensive coordinator in the NFL. Of the Minnesota

(27:50):
Vikings and then the demo Broncos, they just are the
most talented defense in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
So like it was going to be tough even if Joe.

Speaker 22 (27:57):
Was out there, it was going to look like I mean,
you saw the offense one against the Browns, another top
five defense the NFL. They've faced a murderous row of
defenses to start the year. Now here's the thing. They
face the nasty North. So it doesn't get too much
easier when you got teams like the Lions and the
Packers on your schedule that have fantastic defenses in their
own right, But you're not going to be facing like
a Patrick's or a tan who can actually go monoimno

(28:19):
against to mar Chase, I think this is their week
against the Detroit Lions. If the offense doesn't get back
on track here.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
I'd be a little spied.

Speaker 10 (28:26):
Now.

Speaker 22 (28:27):
Detroit Lions offense is another story. The lead the league
in points per game whatever, But this team, at least
in the secondary, is susceptible to those one on one
routes on the outside that t Higgins and mar Chase
can win consistently against the corners of the Lions are
thrown out there.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
So I think there is hope.

Speaker 22 (28:43):
But this offensive line is the one where it's like,
this offensive line feels like it's on the GM in
front office, like this was put together kind of hand
picked by them, and it's not performing, And it's kind
of like a mismatch of guys who are you know,
their tackles are giant, enormous, their interiors super small, and
so like you're kind of schematically hampered because ideally, with

(29:06):
those tackles, you'd want to run gap scheme, power, downhill stuff,
but then your interior isn't built to run those sort
of concepts. So you just have this mismatched offensive line
that I don't think they were going to really gel
into a useful unit.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Did they make a mistake in this offseason by not
trading for Joe Toney, who's a local kid who went
to the I think the Bears for a fourth round
draft pick. Then of course had his contract renegotiated. They're
paying him a lot of money, But I you know,
they did the Lucas Patrick thing, and then late in
camp they did Dalton Reisner and they went rookie on

(29:44):
the other side with Dylan Fairschild. I go back to
maybe a missed opportunity there with Joe Toney. Should they
have pursued him more just for a fourth round draft
pick and extra money?

Speaker 22 (29:55):
Yeah, I mean it's kind of been the Bengals MO.
They've always kind of been in bargain shopping at that position,
you know, outside the Orlando Brown deal, Like it seems
like they always want to try to sneak by with
you know, mid round draft picks or midly paid free
agent It's like, well, when you pay guys that much
and when you draft guys in those ranges, more often

(30:18):
than not, you get the results as you pay for,
like you kind of get average to below average offensive lines.
And that's what we've seen from the Bengals. So one
Tuney isn't fixing this whole unit.

Speaker 23 (30:31):
But would you rather probably know Bengals fans telling right now,
with what happened to Joe Burrow, would you rather have
Joe Tuney right now, or you know, one of their
highly paid receivers or that they have, I don't know, you.

Speaker 10 (30:45):
Know, it's it's.

Speaker 22 (30:47):
Given his injury history, it's hard to it's hard to
say they've done enough with this office line.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Yeah, I mean, this will be the third year brid
I'd be shocked if Burrow is coming back at any
point this season, but this'd be a third season and
six that he doesn't finish the season. And Tooney, who
was out there at least, you know, you got to
start somewhere, and invariably when you start somewhere, that's where
you spend the most of your money. So I mean,
I again, I look at that, and I wonder if

(31:14):
it was a missed opportunity. Mike Renners our guests Pushing
the Plile his podcast. He's with cbssports dot dot com. Okay,
Joe Burrow doesn't tackle, Joe Burrow doesn't get lost in coverage,
Joe Burrow doesn't, you know, exercise pressure from the from
the perimeter. I mean, he can't fix everything, but there

(31:35):
are some giant efficiencies on that defensive side of the football,
and they've been on display the last couple of weeks.
So yeah, okay, we here come the Lions who put
up Boku points. But I mean it's not like the
the Browns were Juggernaut. It's not like the Jaguars were Juggernaut.

(31:56):
It's not like either one of the two teams they
played in the last two weeks, including a Minnesota team
with Carson Wentz with Juggernauts. I mean, there's some serious
deficiencies on the defensive side of the ball, are they not?
There are?

Speaker 22 (32:09):
And you knew it going in and you saw it
last year. You're really hoping Al Golden could make more
of it, and I do kind of think he is.
You know, I think at least this defensive kilburrow we're healthy,
it wouldn't be the sieve that we saw at times
last year where they had some games where it didn't
ven force punts, you know, so I think it is better.
But you're really paying for the fact that there's one

(32:31):
guy that.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
Can rush the passer on this team.

Speaker 22 (32:33):
When you have only one guy that can rush the
passer and Trey Henderson, it makes life very easy for
opposing offense quarridors. They just say, Hey, wherever Trey Hendrickson is,
that's where we're going, that's where we're putting all our attention.
And if you don't have even a number you know,
even number two, even a plan B, even a guy
who can win a one on one semi consistently.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
You're just going to have a.

Speaker 22 (32:55):
Tough time with a posing offense and making opposing quarterbacks uncomfortable.
And that's what they're figuring out. That's what they're continuing
to figure out. Unfortunately with you know, Schmarts who are
being banged up, but with Miles Murphy not turning into
that guy and just not having any your interior defensive
tackles that you've drafted in recent years really starts making
different da So it is just the fact that their

(33:17):
pastor is just completely predicated on is Trey Henderson getting
a one on one on this particular play, because if not,
quarterbacks probably will have all day.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Well, we'll see today against the Lions. We all know
who they have upfront and we'll see how Hendrickson handles
all of that. Mike Runner again pushing the pile of
the podcast. When does that come out?

Speaker 4 (33:36):
Mike?

Speaker 2 (33:37):
How many times a week? Four times a week?

Speaker 22 (33:40):
We do a Sunday night show and then we do Tuesday,
Wednesday Thursday shows.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Okay, so you got a little midwek action. They're leading
in the It really is terrific. You and Kyle really
do a nice job together. By the way. Is he
easy to work with? He is. Actually he's a great guy,
very easy to go. What were you going to say? No,
it's kind of a loaded question, but you guys really
do a nice job together. And I would heartily endorse

(34:07):
anyone downloading that and listening to it because it's it's
not only informative, it's fun. All right, Mike, we'll visit
down the road. Thanks for your time today. We appreciate
it for sure, Ken, thanks for having me. You bet
it is. It is a good lesson, it really and
truly is. Yeah, today it will be interesting. We all

(34:27):
know who the Lions have up front on their offensive line.
It's Pena Seol. And you remember the debate what was
it four year five years ago? Jamar Chase pa Sool?
Jamar Chase pa Soool? And I don't think anybody really
is upset to Jamar Chase is in our our team,
our town playing for the Bengals. But we're going to

(34:48):
see Suol today. I don't that depends if they move
Hendrickson around, but I mean they he should line up
across from Joseph Asai. But it'll be interesting to see
exactly what Seoul does here today. He's obviously graded very
well in his NFL tenure and it was a huge
pickup for the Lions. They were talking about that this

(35:10):
week up in Detroit, just how much he meant and
to start for reconstructing their offensive line, so that too
will be a storyline Today is the Bengals take on
the Lions at Peyk Horse Stadium and Sunday mornings Sports
Talk will continue. In just a moment, did someone say
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Speaker 24 (35:31):
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(40:01):
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Speaker 2 (44:20):
We have NFL football already underway across the pond in London.
Vikings and Browns tied at seven at the end of
the first quarters they play on. The Vikings have been
over there for a while, but any event, the Vikings
with Dylan Gabriel and quarterback, tied with the Browns with

(44:40):
Dylan Gabriel a quarterback, tied with the Vikings after one
and somebody said that that's the first time an NFL
quarterback has made his debut on foreign soil, and if
you think about the recency at least of these European games,
that probably is a don't have the exact research in

(45:02):
front of me, But Dylan Gabriel at the helm for
the Browns seven to seven with the Vikings after one
quarter of football. The Red season came to an end
this week. It came to an end with a thud
after a couple of losses in the wild Card round
of the Dodgers. The Dodgers have moved on. In fact,
the Dodgers last night beat the Phillies five to three.

(45:27):
Game two in that National League Division Series is coming
up tomorrow at six. Two games today, both in the
American League. Game two between the Tigers and the Mariners
Tigers up one game to none. Game two between the
Blue Jays and the Yankees. The Blue Jays winning Game
one last night ten to one. And as I said,
the National League Series continues tomorrow night Dodgers, Phillies, Cubs Milwaukee.

(45:51):
Milwaukee also up a game on the Chicago Cubs. But
as for the Reds, look, you can look at their
participation in the playoffs any number of ways, half full,
half empty. Was the Mets collapse that got them in?
Was it key wins for the Reds down the road
that got them in? Either way, it was a season
that was a season that was entertaining at the very least,

(46:14):
and a season that had a lot of accomplishments along
the way. Here's Terry Francona after it was all over.

Speaker 14 (46:21):
I thought our group from day one was a special group.
We did not accomplish what we set out to do.
That takes away nothing from what me and the coaches
feel about those guys.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Matt Snyder covers baseball for cbssports dot Com. He's standing
by to join us, and I want to ask Matt too,
but what this team needs to do, I mean, tangibly
needs to do to go to that next level in
the offseason, and they're multiple things in my opinion. Let's
see what he says Matt, how are you on this
glorious Sunday.

Speaker 10 (46:50):
I'm great.

Speaker 11 (46:51):
I am looking forward to the ensuing rounds of the playoffs.
Really good Wildcard round actually, I mean other than you
know the locally, Yeah, but three Game three is it's
the first time we've had that really really.

Speaker 10 (47:05):
Good action and really all three of the game threes.

Speaker 11 (47:08):
I mean, we had a late surgeon offensively for the
Tigers Cubs Potters was.

Speaker 10 (47:14):
A complete nail bider. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (47:16):
And you know in the Yankees Red Sox game, James
Slitler just went out and made ahead of historic performance
for a rookie.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
No, I mean, you're you're dead on it all. All
of that. Of course, the one that turned out to
be the least competitive was the Reds and the Dodgers. Look,
I think in a lot of ways this year, Terry
francona squeeze blood out of a turnip, and there's some
in game things that have drawn the ire of the
local fan base on social media. That happens in all

(47:44):
thirty Major League Baseball towns. But by and large, I
think the guy did a pretty darn good job this year.
What do you consider his ace was out for two
months Austin Hayes, whom they counted on greatly, had three
stints on the IL. And you know over and above
that players were playing out a position. Martego is to
right field. That worked out great, but he started the
year at third base. I think by and large, Francona

(48:07):
did okay here with what he was given to work with.

Speaker 10 (48:09):
What about you totally agree? I mean, look, it's great.

Speaker 11 (48:13):
American Ballpark is a ballpark that conducive to power. And
the Reds ring twenty first in baseball and home runs
this season, and that is the best possible.

Speaker 10 (48:24):
Thing you can do on offense.

Speaker 11 (48:25):
And it's not like they're stealing a ton of bases.
It's not like you go back to the mid eighties
and those Cardinals teams where they didn't have a ton
of power, but they ran all day. Like you basically
have what Ellie obviously, but Pat that maybe Matt McClain,
maybe TJ. Friedel, a little bit of Mark Day, but
like they need more power in that lineup. It's as

(48:46):
simple as that. And as you as you mentioned, Hunter
Green miss time he had to mess with. Francona had
to mess so much with the bullpen early in the season.

Speaker 10 (48:57):
I mean died was the closer they can.

Speaker 11 (49:00):
Here right right right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
And the guy he thought was going to close this
year wound up fishing for three major league teams. I mean,
Alesis Dias was was toast And yeah, there's I think
a lot of times you get lost in the outcome
as opposed to the journey to the outcome.

Speaker 11 (49:17):
Yeah, and look, I think it was a long time ago,
but Baseball Perspective at one point compiled a series of
either Internet comments or tweets or what have you for
every single manager in baseball, where every single fan base
thought their manager was off at Bolton management because if
the Bolton doesn't have a zero point zero zero era

(49:40):
in one inherited runners stranded, then it was a terrible decision.
Every single time a Bolton gives up a run, it's
the worst decision ever.

Speaker 10 (49:50):
I imagine that's where most of the complaints came from.

Speaker 11 (49:52):
And I guess the other thing would probably be line up.

Speaker 10 (49:54):
There's always lineup complaints. He always should have done something
differently with the lineup.

Speaker 11 (49:59):
But I I mean, there's a reason that Terry Francona
is known as one of the best managers of all time.

Speaker 10 (50:04):
And you look at.

Speaker 11 (50:06):
There were improvements across the board for this team this season,
and there were shortfalls from some players. I guess I
shouldn't sat across the board. Some players feel like they
should have hit better, and what you get is a
team that I'm sorry, no offense intended, and you probably
won't take any but it was not really a playoff

(50:27):
caliber team, even though it made the playoffs.

Speaker 10 (50:30):
Getting in the playoff.

Speaker 11 (50:31):
And getting their teeth kicked in by the defending champs
who are on the flip side a lot better than
their record.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Yeah, it does highlight the fact that if you look
at their roster composition, there's something that is missing that
has been crying out here for a while, and that
is a bat that they can put in that three
or four hole that can deliver in critical times, be
it a double, be it a fly ball that gets
a runner in from third. And I think in the

(50:58):
off season that's probably what they have to look at most. Sure,
the bullpen needs to be tweaked and and and reconstructed
frankly in some ways, but I think you know they
got snake bit by what they did with Mike Mustakas
that didn't work out. Then here comes Jmr Candelario, who
is a complete bust when he arrived here. Now, so
maybe they were hedging their bets here at the deadline.

(51:19):
But I think in this off season they've really got
to address the middle of that batting order, don't they.

Speaker 4 (51:25):
You know yet?

Speaker 10 (51:26):
They need some thunder for sure.

Speaker 11 (51:27):
I think these names are not necessarily out of reach
financially for the Reds, But I don't think they're going
to be swimming in this school.

Speaker 10 (51:35):
But the two guys who stick out.

Speaker 11 (51:36):
To me right away are Pete Alonzo. Again, I don't
need to hear like from an ear listeners CBS Sports
Front reporter connect to the Reds.

Speaker 10 (51:46):
No, no, this is knee sing This is knee saying.

Speaker 11 (51:50):
You throw Pete Alonzo in the middle of that order,
and all of a sudden, everybody else looks a lot
better because now you have a guy who can hit
forty to forty five home runs, right, and that just
makes everybody looked that much better. Another guy who grew
up in the area, Kyle Swarber. Now, again, I don't
think the Philliers are going to let Swarbur go. From
everything that we've heard, it seems like he's not even

(52:13):
going to be an option.

Speaker 10 (52:13):
But if he is an option, I think that is
somebody who we're not talking about.

Speaker 11 (52:18):
Hey, let's get a guy who might hit twenty to
twenty five home runs.

Speaker 10 (52:21):
You have guys there.

Speaker 11 (52:22):
I'm talking about the big time, elite level thunder.

Speaker 10 (52:26):
So again, I don't think the Reds are going to
do any one of those.

Speaker 11 (52:31):
But those are the types of guys that I don't care.
If it's all bad, I don't care. The Reds need
a lot more power presence in the middle of that
batting order.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Well, you know, Schwarber is probably going to be a
thirty million dollar a year ballplayer, is what he's going
to be. There's twenty million coming off the books with
Nick Martinez. So I mean, there are a number of
ways to play, to play the numbers game. But I
looked at the Dodgers and I looked at the Reds.
The forty roster on Los Angeles, four hundred and three
million for the red Yeah, and that nine million. You

(53:02):
can't look. Dollars buy things in baseball. At buys, speed, advice, power,
ad buys, pitching. It's it's it's it's as old as
the game, well as old as free agency, as itself.
They got the money. Every owner in baseball is making money,
aren't they made?

Speaker 4 (53:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (53:18):
They are. They do need to spend more. I would
like to. I'm not necessarily a salary cap guy, but I.

Speaker 11 (53:23):
Definitely think there's there should be a little bit more
equity because I mean, look, the doctors are really really
good at finding bargain. If you go to like the
Tasker Hernandez, Max Munky, part of the batting order. They
they locked up Will Smith on a long term deal,
but before that he was a homegrown catcher.

Speaker 10 (53:44):
You know, other teams had access to guys like that.

Speaker 11 (53:47):
But the separation point is being able to carry rookie
bets Freddy Freeman and Shoho.

Speaker 10 (53:53):
Tani on the same roger and those guys one, two three.
That's where you're like, all right, this isn't fair.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
Come on, no, So yeah, I mean you got Otani
at seventy million, Bets at twenty five million, forty Freeman
at twenty seven million. I mean, yeah, you got it.

Speaker 10 (54:08):
It's just not fair.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
It raises the question though, a year from now, a
year and a couple of months from now, the current
collective bargaining Agreement expires, and I would wonder at this
point if the ownership group, whoever does the negotiation, doesn't
try and get some sort of salary cap, some sort
of at least competitive balance from a financial standpoint. Inside

(54:30):
the lake the you know, the union is going to
scream at how and has won at every step in
the way when this has been raised before. But the
game's not healthy when it comes to things like that.

Speaker 10 (54:40):
I agree, and I think we're going to have a problem.
I think we're going to miss some games. The owners look.

Speaker 11 (54:46):
Rob Banfords, the Commissioner of Baseball, which technically, by definition is.

Speaker 10 (54:50):
Supposed to be neutral, but come on, the owners hire him.
He works for the owners. He's the one last time
that when.

Speaker 11 (54:56):
The owners lock the players out and the players are like,
we're trying to negotiate, why do you lock us out?
And Manford said, well, it was a defensive lockout, the
first time we've ever heard.

Speaker 10 (55:04):
A defensive lockout. He's made a bunch of commons since then.

Speaker 11 (55:10):
That suggests the owners are serious this time and there
is going to be a fight. And there aren't many
owners left like Steve Cohen who want to go crazy.

Speaker 10 (55:19):
Who is what's the mess? In case your listeners aren't
sure who want.

Speaker 11 (55:23):
To go crazy spending and want to out spend everybody.
Like if you look at some of the other mega
market teams such as the Cubs who just advanced in
the playoffs, there were eleventh on payroll this year.

Speaker 10 (55:34):
The Cubs should be top five and spending, no questions asked,
But there are eleventh.

Speaker 11 (55:39):
And Tom Ricketts has dropped a lot of hints about
not wanting to continue to spend so much on payroll
and he's more focused on player development and different.

Speaker 10 (55:50):
Things like that and not having to send as much.

Speaker 11 (55:52):
I believe their biggest contract of all time is still
Jason Hayward. Dancy Swanson's up there, but they're not. They
have not gone over two hundred million for any player,
So I think Rangers Texas Rangers another one. They've sent
huge on Corey seeger Marcus Simon. They won that championship.
What's the first thing we heard if they won the championship, Well,
they want to dial back payroll.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Yeah, they want a championship crazy. Yeah, I know, that's nuts.

Speaker 11 (56:16):
So I think that in the past it's been the
players obviously will not accept the salary cap, and there's
a divide and ownership where a lot of the big
the mega market owners still want to keep spending, and
there's enough of them that that kind of tilts the scales.
I think the owners are getting closer and closer to
a unified front to where they're going to take a
stand and so to speak, for all line in the sands.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
And they're in lies the great possibility of losing games
in the twenty twenty sixth season. Yeah, Matt Snyder is
our guest. We're talking Reds Baseball. Put a cap around
the season. Well, a couple of things here. One, I
think Ellie data Cruz continues to be an elite player offensively, defensively,
No where do you think they have to move him

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to get him out of that shortstop spot? And can
they really afford for a full one sixty two keep
Brian Hayes and Matt McClain in the same batting order,
because it would seem the best you're going to get
out of those guys in any game is going to
be two for eight.

Speaker 10 (57:17):
S key.

Speaker 11 (57:18):
Brian sticks out like it's sore thumb to me, because
he's such a good defender at third base and that
is important, but gosh, he just can't hit, and he's
going to age twenty nine season next year. You're at
the point where that's just what you are offensively, and
that's traditionally been a spot where you need not only

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a good hitter, but a power hitter at third base,
and I just talked about how the resonate power.

Speaker 10 (57:44):
It just it just seems like it's not a great
fit there. Well.

Speaker 11 (57:48):
The other thing is, though, if you're going to have
that guy there because he's so good defensively, you have
to make up for that offensively in other spot. So
that means Matt McClain needs to hit like he did
as a rookie, that it hit like you did this year,
and if they believe that he can.

Speaker 10 (58:03):
Get to that point, that's fine. He played well.

Speaker 11 (58:05):
He played over half of the season as a rookie,
so it's not like it was ten games. It was
a good sample, but this year there was. It wasn't
just a lack of progress.

Speaker 10 (58:14):
It was two steps back. So are you sure he's
going to be that good next year?

Speaker 11 (58:19):
Because you need a lot In terms of the Ellie question,
I just watched Fernando Tazzis play unbelievable right field. You
can put any kind of an athlete like that in
the outfield, which Ellie de la Cruz is one of
the few guys who he could say has as much athleticism,
if not more than Fernando Tatzis.

Speaker 10 (58:40):
Or if you have that kind of athleticism.

Speaker 11 (58:42):
You can play outfield, you can learn it, and you
saw it to an extent with Marte this year with
no professional experience in the outfield, getting thrown out there.

Speaker 10 (58:51):
By the end of the year, he's.

Speaker 11 (58:53):
Making what was at the time of season saving robbery
hit the wall.

Speaker 10 (58:57):
These three are tied together for me. If you're gonna
use Brian Hayes a third base, you.

Speaker 11 (59:01):
Have to get more offense out of Matt McClain, and
then you have to figure out who you're going to
add to the team that can hit for power and
maybe moving Ali da la Cruz to the outfield solve
the defensive woes and opens up the spot where you
can add off the.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
All right, Matt Sneider read him on cbssports dot com.
Stay well, my friend will visit down the road. Thank
you to now you know. The the Schwarberg thing is interesting.
He made twenty million this year. He's a free agent.
I would guess after a fifty six home run season,
he's going to be a thirty million dollar year year player.
Alonzo already is a thirty million dollar a year player,

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and he's going he can get out of his contract.
There's a player option for him after this year, so
he's already at thirty mil. They're both around thirty in
terms of age. Schwarberg is thirty two, Alonso is thirty.
It would be a one point eighty for this team
to this team being the Reds, to pursue players like this,

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and there may be other options out there for them
as well. We'll see exactly what develops in the offseason.
I think it's kind of a, you know, a fantasy
to think that either one of those guys would be
in a Reds lineup next year. But look, you if
you really believe you've got a nucleus to win and
win big, and you know that you're one glaring spot,

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there are other spots that kind of stood at. One
glaring spot was not having the bat in the middle
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That them Ken Brew Sunday Morning Sports Talk. The Bengals
are two and two. It sure doesn't feel that way
after the last couple of weeks. And uh, you don't
have to tell Zach Taylor that because it probably doesn't
feel that way to him. I mean, two wins, two losses,
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he also knows this.

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
It has our standard been acceptable on every single play
in the last two games, I would say it hasn't been,
so you gotta look within yourself. Is my standard acceptable?
What Hey, it wasn't that bad, But that bad is
not good enough. It's got to be great. And this week,
on a short week, I expect our guys to hold
themselves at standard all hold them fast standard, hold myself
best standard.

Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
That we have to be great. We can't. We can't.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
Anything less than that is unacceptable right now where we're at,
we just got to find a way to get our
third win and get it quickly and build on that
momentum from that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
Now, gotta be great against a team like Detroit. The
line on this game is morphing. It's between ten. You
can find it some places at ten and a half.
It's just it's it's been double digits all week. And
that tells you a number of things, not the least
of which that the smart guys don't have a lot
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Speaker 4 (01:04:23):
Goodn't many better?

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Sounds good.

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couple of one in three teams today. We got the
Houston Texans at the Baltimore Ravens. Ravens amazingly getting too.
I'm sure that's all Lamar driven, but they are really
banged up, as you well know, Leon defense and for
Houston at the Ravens, then next week at Seattle and
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for Houston coming up, starting today at the Ravens. And
they got to give too. What do you think?

Speaker 34 (01:06:11):
But There is a trend here.

Speaker 10 (01:06:14):
Teams before the.

Speaker 34 (01:06:15):
Bye and the Texans next week are on a buy
fifty eight percent this decade. So there's obviously these teams
are getting focused before they take off for the week,
and they want to go out and get the job done.
They got Christian kirkback last week. Derek Stingley Junior, the
best cornerback back offensive line actually blocked a little bit

(01:06:39):
and passed pro And I think that they sign should
be higher. Cooper Rush, I mean, had a couple of
decent games here, but I mean Lamar Jackson stirs to
drink here in the crowd. I mean, they could be
just showing up because they bought tickets and they've got
nothing else to do in Baltimore. I like Houston here.

Speaker 10 (01:06:57):
I think they win this game here twenty eight, twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Don't worry about the points. Yeah, that's it. And you know,
the defense has just been atrocious Commanders today at two
and two with the three and one Chargers, Chargers are
giving three in this game. Everybody's making a big deal
lee about the wide receivers being banged up for Washington.
They give up some big plays. Have you seen them
defensively not good.

Speaker 34 (01:07:21):
Yeah, So I thought the Chargers blew it last week
and it wasn't the fact that Giants were good. I
thought the problem was their offensive assistant and what happened,
Greg Roman, offensive coordinator at a fifty four plays, called
only thirteen runs. You've got to have balance here. So

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now they're down Sam cost me is Washington, They're going
to try to protect Jayden Daniels without Kerry McLaurin playing
this game.

Speaker 10 (01:07:52):
Did not travel with the team here.

Speaker 34 (01:07:54):
And La, we know is down their top two offensive
lineman now because alts out. So LA's only two rushing
touchdowns in four games. So both these teams, I think
they want to protect their quarterback. They know it's a
long season year, and offensive lines not up to snuff.
So played very conservative and then two actually pretty good

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defenses here. I'm going to take a different approach to
this game. We're gonna go under forty eight total point.
I think it's a better way to approach this game.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
So you're looking at the you're looking at the total
here as opposed to know the line or anything. Okay,
under forty eight, Okay, you got the two and two Broncos.
We saw the Broncos last week out in Denver, they're
at the Eagles. Eagles are four and oh. Eagles are
given three and a half Philadelphia. The blitz rate is
high for that team, and it's working Denver's front four.
I thought this is interesting. The front four generates a

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lot of heat. They don't often blitz, and when you
blitz Philadelphia, you tend to lose. This is an interesting
chess match here. Defensively, don't you think Eagles minus three
and a half?

Speaker 34 (01:08:54):
Yeah, I think it's a bad matchup here for Philadelphia.
Let's look at who they played so far. Opening week
to play Dallas, who they had beaten twice last year.
You know, Dallas gave him their best shot. Okay, they
won that game. Then they had to play the Chiefs.
They played and beaten the Super Bowl. You know, Chiefs
going to give them.

Speaker 4 (01:09:11):
A good run.

Speaker 34 (01:09:12):
Then the Division round revenge against the Rams. Rams were
ready for that game, should have won the game, blockfield
goal for a touchdown. Then they traveled to Tampa, played
a great first half, but had nothing left in the
second half, could generate no offense at all, and you know,
somehow came with a win. Now the team they're not
familiar with. Talk about the style of play here? How

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do they be effective?

Speaker 10 (01:09:37):
This Philadelphia Eagles team? How do they get to the quarterback?

Speaker 34 (01:09:41):
The two defensive tackles generate pressure when you sit in
the pocket, Bo Nicks, you're not sitting in the pocket.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
They're rolling them out probably eight out of ten times.

Speaker 35 (01:09:49):
So it's a style.

Speaker 34 (01:09:51):
Next week they play another division opponent here the Giants
on a short week. Are you Kidney perfect?

Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
Here?

Speaker 34 (01:09:58):
And also Lane Johnson shoulder injury even if he plays,
he's not one hundred percent and the top two out
of three linebackers are out for Philadelphia. Here up say
the weekend run team favorite Denver straight up twenty seven
to twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
Four, twenty seven twenty four Denver. Denver looked like I mean,
they won obviously last it was an ugly game, but
they look like they're ready to break out. The Chiefs
are getting better at wide receiver Lai the two and
two they're at the Jags this week. Today Jags are
three and one, they could be four and oh and
they're getting three and a half at home in this game.

Speaker 34 (01:10:32):
This looks well, Yeah, give Liam Cohen credit here. What
are you doing? They're trying to play sound defense, run
the football, and also play solid special teams. If you
do that, Trevor Lawrence, who is okay, not great, doesn't
have to throw the ball forty forty five times. So

(01:10:55):
I think this is a great situational play here for
Kansas City. Whatever Jacksonville does a Chiefs do it better
on defense and special teams. They got back to Javier
Worthy here. I'm going to keep riding Kansas City twenty eight.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Twenty twenty eight to twenty KC. All right, we've already
talked about Paramount Sports two hundred dollars off for the
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we got the Bengals at home, and everybody knows what's
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and one in they're in here. This is a ten
point line right now. Bengals plus ten at home. That's

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a large number in any game. Bengals plus ten at home.
Do you think there's any way they that the Lions
went outright or do you think there's a way that somehow,
some way Bengals and the points is to play. How
do you see this?

Speaker 34 (01:11:44):
Okay, So I'm looking at the offense. Cincinnati's offense and
the numbers are awful. The adjustment from Joe Burrow obviously
has not been good. First week, turnover after turnover at Minnesota.
Then they played Denver and they're punning, punting and more punting.
I'm looking at all the analytics here, looking from every formation,

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things like you know, twelve formation, one, running back.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
Two tight end, every formation. They have negative EPA here.

Speaker 34 (01:12:13):
So good teams when they come home after two road
losses usually rally and pick up a win somehow. But
the Bengals are not a good team. The Alliance might
be one of the top three teams here in the country.
I like Detroit. They double up here Cincinnati thirty four.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
To seventeen, thirty four to seventeen. All right, well, somehow,
some way, one would hope that it gets better. Don't
know how soon, but one would hope. All right, lady, listen,
good stuff. We'll talk again next week, Okay, see you, yeah, yeah.
Bengals have the second worst point differential in football right now,
at minus fifty eight. Only Tennessee at minus sixty nine

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is worse. I don't know, I mean, I'm trying to
look at this objectively, I just don't think it's going
to be the kick and the teeth that everybody's talking about.
I really don't.

Speaker 34 (01:13:08):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
I'm not going to go out there and say, hey,
the Bengals are going to win today, but ten at home.
Vegas is known for sucker bets, and this might be
one of those sucker bets.

Speaker 4 (01:13:22):
But I just.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
I just have a feeling that the team is underperformed
without Burrow. It is underperformed obviously for the last two weeks,
underperformed tremendously in the last two weeks. But I'm not
ready to say, hey, take the Lions and lay the points.
In fact, I'm not going to say that. He likes

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the Texans Ravens at home getting too but the Ravens
are just a mess. Lamar out. The interioror defense is
just it's been gutted. He likes the one in three
Texans to go to two and three. The Ravens, who
go to one and four, he says, layoff the Commanders,
and the Chargers don't play the game. Play the number,
he says, play that number. The numbers, forty Eightiesys, take

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the under Broncos and Eagles. Broncos on the road are
getting three and a half. He's picking the Broncos to
win straight up over the Eagles. Today in Philadelphia, the
Jags are at home, getting three and a half. Chiefs
are in town. He thinks the Chiefs win. He thinks
the Chiefs cover twenty eight twenty in that game, and

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he picks the Lions thirty four to seventeen over the Bengals.
I'm not really, I'm just not going to go that far.
I'm not I'm not going to go that far. I
think ten is a is a really really big number,
and I don't think the Bengals are as bad as
the way they've played the last two weeks. We'll see.

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This is a really really interesting play here. But I mean,
unless you're somebody that just absolutely loves the Bengals and
you want to play the Bengals and you want to
play that, you know, go ahead and do it. I
think objectively, if you're looking at this game from thirty
thousand feet, you lay off at the numbers too big. Anyway,
That's what Lee said. We'll see how he does. We'll
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the second quarter, game tied at seven. Browns on the Move.
A lot of storylines in this game go back to

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the twenty twenty one draft when the debate in this
town was Pena Seool or Jamar Chase. The Bengals picked
fifth that year and they took obviously Jamar Chase. Pene Sewell,
who was an eraser on the offensive line, was taken
two picks later by the Lions at number seven, And

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to listen to Dan Campbell, the head coach at Detroit
this week, you wouldn't want it any other way.

Speaker 37 (01:16:55):
Being able to get that player has been has been
huge for us.

Speaker 4 (01:16:59):
Man.

Speaker 37 (01:17:00):
He is a pillar. He is one of our pillars,
you know from day one. And he's a guy, such
a tone, he's a phenomenal athlete, his work ethic, everything
we've talked about up to this point, Man and so Man,
we were blessed and fortunate to have him.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
They are not that he would have been the right
choice here in Cincinnati, but for a team that had
to rebuild its offensive line to play the kind of
football that Dan Campbell wanted them to play, no question,
there absolutely no question there would they like to have
had Jamar chasey I think so anybody would, but they're

(01:17:39):
more than happy. The other storyline in this game that
is interesting is David Montgomery. David Montgomery played his high
school ball here in Mount Healthy. Went on from Mount
Healthy to play college at collegiately at Iowa State. But
at Mount Healthy he was a hell of a football player.
Everybody knows that played a little quarterback, played quarterback the

(01:18:00):
ball much, but he ran, Oh man, could that guy run?
And now with the Lions and today is the first
time he will play professionally in his home city of Cincinnati.
And this week on the Lions Podcast, their official podcast,
he was talking about that coming home, playing here in

(01:18:20):
front of the family, in front of friends, and just
all that goes into that for the very first time,
I grew up with a lot of guys gonna be
in the stand.

Speaker 38 (01:18:27):
There's gonna be a lot of guys that I grew
up with who gonna be big Bengals fans. So I
think it's just gonna be really really cool to see
like a lot of familiar faces and coming to support me,
and you know, throughout my entire journey and me playing
by all the same people who whould have for me
when I was in high school and toil when I
got to college and even in the NFL now, I
think it's.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
Super cool to have that experience.

Speaker 38 (01:18:49):
But like I said, like the most important thing that
I'm kind of excited about seeing my sister and seeing
my nephew, So that's probably the most exciting thing.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
He had a breakout game against the Ravens. Again, the
Ravens are reeling defensively, but nevertheless, twelve carries, one hundred
and fifty one yards and a couple of touchdowns. He's
averaging five points seven yards per carry. And you know,
it's not just David Montgomery in that backfield for the Lions,
and that's one of the reasons why the numbers aren't
quite as inflated as you would expect them to be.

(01:19:20):
But you know, he's there with Jamiir Gibbs, and so
the two of them kind of are, you know, a
Yang to the other guys yang. He had eleven carries
fifty seven yards. It's a five point two average against
the Bears. So that's the storyline. The other storyline is
the Lions. Their point thereferential in four games is just

(01:19:40):
off the charts. In four games they have amassed one
hundred and thirty seven points. So there was a question
this week to Jake Browning. Look, I mean, you know,
all that's going on is there a little pressure to
match that team point per point. Is there a pressure
on the angles offense to play that game?

Speaker 21 (01:20:02):
I mean, I think that's a dangerous, you know, trap
to fall into. I think, you know, for me, I'm
just going to operate the play call that I get
and be really focused on making sure, you know, one
play at time, just operating how it's supposed to be run.
I think if you start trying to make your decisions
based on what they have on offense, or you know,

(01:20:22):
what they do or don't have on offense, it can
be kind of a dangerous trap to fall into. So
I just want to operate well. I want to keep
the ball moving forward, play out of the sticks, and
give our guys a chance down the field.

Speaker 4 (01:20:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
I mean, the one thing he doesn't want to do
is take his team out of the game. I hate
to use the term game management because I think that's
disrespectful to quarterback, but I think you just don't put
your defense in a position where they're constantly coming out
of the hole and constantly facing one of the best
offenses in the league. That is the game plan down

(01:20:58):
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Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
Well, whatever kind of problems you've had this weekend, and
I hope you've had none, they can't begin to compare
to what the problem that former NFL quarterback Mark Sanchez
has going for him right now up in Indianapolis. Maybe
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Sanchez allegedly accosted a truck driver at a hotel loading dog. Why,
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(01:26:31):
was going to kill me. The truck driver then pulled
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said a look of shock came on Sanchez's face and
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arrested Sanchez while he was in the hospital recovering for
his stab wounds. Don't know if he has been taken
down to the lockup, but there will be a hearing
apparently on all of this at eight thirty am on Tuesday.

(01:27:16):
So let's just say Mark Sanchez didn't have this on
his Bengo card when he arrived to call the Colts
game today in Indianapolis as the Colts take on the
Las Vegas Raiders. Let's just say that was not part
of his pregame preparation. As for the Bengals, well, Jamar

(01:27:37):
Chase knows they're facing adversity.

Speaker 39 (01:27:39):
Really, that's the biggest thing about adversity, you know what
I'm saying. You gotta face it, look at it out
in an eye out eye, and attack it. It's just
like us on a field. We make mistakes, you know,
We gotta look at it on a film, correct it
and move on to the next play.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
But in two and two and woefully out of contention
for wins the last two weeks, can we keep hope
alive in this town? Let's bring in now? John Breech
great sports writers cbssports dot Com. His dad, of course,
Bengal legend. But John is writing his own legendary status
as he continues to cover football really well for cbssports

(01:28:13):
dot Com. John, how are you on this glorious game day? Ken?

Speaker 40 (01:28:16):
I am fantastic, as I always am whenever I am
talking to you and boys, it puts me in a
good dude.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
That's good. That's good. That's what we're here for. We're
here to keep hope alive. Now now, John, Why should
Bengal fans keep hope alive? Because the last two weeks
were absolutely horrid? Now here come the Lions who can
score forty points on you in about eight minutes. Why
should Why should Bengal fans at two and two, after
the way the team will looked last week and the
week before and with no Joe Burrow, give us a

(01:28:44):
little hope here? John? Why should we keep hope alive?
All right.

Speaker 40 (01:28:48):
So we're putting the Bengals fans in the therapist share,
and I'm the therapy.

Speaker 35 (01:28:52):
I'm gonna tell them why it's not over.

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
Why to see this overlook.

Speaker 40 (01:28:56):
They've lost the last two games with seventy six to thirteen,
and that's ugly. The offense had real play a disaster
the last two weeks. That's ugly, but it does feel
like this team has hit rock bottom at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
You throw Jake Browning out there.

Speaker 40 (01:29:11):
It was two road games in two of the toughest
environments in football with Minnesota in Denver, those are two
places where it's tougher any quarterback to start, let alone
a backup who's trying to break in the Viking's game
with the disaster with all the turnover, that is something
that's an anomally. You're not going to see that again.
Broncos game, just the undisciplined penalties were ugly. Again, it

(01:29:32):
was just these weird things that kept happening. So I
think you're playing at home against the Detroit Lions. If
they can just keep this close, I think that will
give the locker room confidence. I think they'll give the
coaching staff confidence because that's what they need right now
in Jake Browning. And the thing to keep in mind
here is despite these past two weeks where they have
gotten blown out, this team is two and two. They

(01:29:54):
are currently the sixth seed in the AF seed if
the season ended today.

Speaker 35 (01:29:58):
So there's no reason to throw this season.

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
Out the window.

Speaker 40 (01:30:01):
The Bengals are very much in it as long as
they can figure out a way to stay in it,
and that needs to start today by playing a competitive game.

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
With the Lions. Wins didn't do all that well against
the Browns last week. The Browns have a way of
making a football team look bad offensively. We know that,
but I'm just wondering, if you look at Jared Goff
at least recently, he doesn't put two bad games back
to back. I got a feeling that the Lions are
going to score points in this game. It may not

(01:30:29):
be forty, it may not be anything like that, but
they're going to get their points in this game. How
do the Bengals maneuver against that Lions defense? And if
you're Zach Taylor or Dan Pitcher, what are you doing?
First try to establish a running game that hasn't been
there all year, or try to figure out a way
to get Jamar Chase and T Higgins in space.

Speaker 40 (01:30:50):
That is a great that's a chicken an egg here
question there, Ken, because they've got to do something.

Speaker 2 (01:30:55):
The offense obviously, is it working.

Speaker 40 (01:30:58):
As you mentioned, this is a history bad running game
just fifty yards per game. Nobody else is even in
that neighborhood as far as what they're doing per game.
But I think what you want to do is just
get big Browning some confidence first and just have him
go out there. And what that means is what you're
saying is get.

Speaker 35 (01:31:18):
Those passes, those short passes.

Speaker 40 (01:31:20):
The Jamar Chase and to T Higgins in space so
that he's throwing completions and so that the offense is moving.
And I think we saw a little bit of that
in the Monday night game in Denver. Anybody who watched
that first quarter probably felt like, Okay, maybe the Bengals
can win this game because the offense was moving the
ball again, a few weird penalties in there, and then
the wheels fell off the wag in.

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
The final three quarters.

Speaker 40 (01:31:41):
So it's just all about it feels like getting Jake
Browning going, and if you get Jamar Chase going and T.

Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
Higgins going.

Speaker 40 (01:31:48):
Now, the Lions have to focus on that, and then
that's when you get Chase Brown in there and get
him going too.

Speaker 2 (01:31:53):
So I think it probably has to.

Speaker 40 (01:31:54):
Start with the passing game and then let the running
game fall behind that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:58):
Okay, So if you're the Lion, you probably know that,
right And if you're the Lions, you probably know that
this team has struggled offensively. And if you're the Lions,
you know that the Bengals don't want to come back
home after their last two games on the road and
lay an egg. So if you're the Lions and you're
you know, you're sitting up there in Detroit and you're
on the defensive side of the ball. If you're Aiden

(01:32:19):
Hutchinson for example, or DJ Reider, my goodness, or if
you're anybody up there on that defense, you know it's coming.

Speaker 10 (01:32:25):
Right right you are.

Speaker 40 (01:32:28):
Look, the Lions have a very very good defense. You
mentioned two of the biggest names, and they're not going
to be an easy team to move the ball on.
But again, that's why you hope this short stuff is going.

Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
To work, because the quick as you get the rid
of the.

Speaker 40 (01:32:41):
Ball, the less like you are to be sacked by
Aiden Hutchinson, and I think the other thing to keep
in mind is that the Broncos have a really good secondary.
They're a tough team to run those short plays on.
Patrick Surtains arguably the best corner in the NFL, and
even then Jamart Case was still running open on routes.
The Bengals just couldn't get him the ball. So the
Bengals second or the Lions secondary isn't as good, but

(01:33:04):
their pass rush is so good it kind of makes
up for it because the quarterback has to get rid
of the ball quickly, so that's you just need these
quick hitting plays so that Aiden Hutchinson and the rest
of that pass rush is kind of taken out of
the game. And that's obviously a lot easier said than done,
but that feels like that's the path for the Bengals
to play well. And of course the Lions will try
and stop that because they're not going to want to

(01:33:25):
let Jamar Chase or t Higgins beat them.

Speaker 2 (01:33:27):
The Lions can run it, you know that. And one
of the guys that runs it is a kid that
made his name here in high school football in Cincinnati
all those years ago, and that's David Montgomery. And I
looked at the Bengals and how they have played the
runs so far this year, and it's not great. And
I'm just wondering, if you're the Lions today, what are
you trying to do here against a Bengals defense that

(01:33:50):
has given up one hundred and eighty six to Denver
last week, one hundred and sixty nine to Minnesota, one
hundred and thirty nine to Jacksonville, all on the ground
in those last three weeks. What are you going to do?
What are you doing here? You're running the ball first,
aren't you?

Speaker 10 (01:34:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
Well next? Those are all brutal numbers.

Speaker 40 (01:34:09):
And I think if you're the Bengals, you just start
from scratch. You go back to Week one, that was
their best game against the run.

Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
The Browns away ran for forty nine.

Speaker 40 (01:34:17):
Yards, and the Browns offense isn't good. That's why the
quarterback just got vent A rushing attack not good.

Speaker 2 (01:34:22):
But you just kind of start looking at positives.

Speaker 40 (01:34:24):
Like, okay, we have stopped a run game before, and
then even Jacksonville ETN has had a very good season
there and the Bengals played him reasonably well when you
look at how other teams have done against him.

Speaker 2 (01:34:37):
This season.

Speaker 40 (01:34:37):
So really, again, it was just these two road games,
the Vikings and Broncos, where the team's really broke out,
and this is a tough candem to stop. Jamyor Gibbs
and Dave Montgomery. I don't think you can go in
there thinking, hey, we're going to hold this team to
eighty yards. I think if you're the Bengals, you almost
want to let them get.

Speaker 2 (01:34:55):
Three or four yards to carry, keep.

Speaker 40 (01:34:57):
The clock running, and that way this game doesn't turn
to a shootout where both teams have to score forty points.
Is that the Lions score, I say, over thirty. I
don't think the Bengals can win. So if the Lions
want to run the ball, I think the Bengals would
probably be okay with that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:11):
John Breechard, guess cbsports dot com, we're talking Bengals Lions
for twenty five kick here on seven hundred WLW pregame
show begins here in just a couple of minutes. You know, John,
I'm wondering, it's not like Mike Brown loses faith in
a coaching staff quickly. I mean, I can only think
of two instances in the last twenty five years. Dave

(01:35:32):
Shula and then of course Dick lebow where and both
were given ample opportunity to prove themselves. This is Zach
Taylor's fifth year, sixth year, six years with the Bengals
as the head coach. He had a quarterback go down
three times. Now Joe Burrow will not finish the season.
Very difficult for any head coach. I think the biggest
thing I think that Mike wants to see, and you know,

(01:35:54):
you know your dad was part of that organization. You
know exactly how it works. Mike and then Kate after him.
They don't want to see this thing just fall apart
and just after four games just disintegrate. We talked earlier
about how the season can be salvageable, how they can
make a run. But I think the biggest thing I
think in the minds of the front office is this
has got to look weak to weak, like they're trying,

(01:36:16):
like the coaches are trying. And one of the things
I think the coaching staff can do, particularly on the
offensive ball, to show that they're trying, is that to
make sure that they're not trying to make Jake Browning
into Joe Burrow, They've got to get plays out there
that play into Jake Browning's strength and not try to
wedge in an offense into what Jake Browning canon can't do.

Speaker 40 (01:36:36):
Am I wrong, No, that's absolutely right, And I think
that's actually one of the issues why Bengals fans are
so frustrated with what they've seen so far, Because when
Jake Browning came in in twenty twenty three and had
all that success, the offense did look a lot different
than it did while Joe Burrow was running it. And
so what they've been trying to do is it working
so well, Because again they've been playing some tough defenses.

(01:37:00):
Teams are going to go out and have a lot
of success against the Broncos defense, and so I think
that that is what has to happen this week. You
have to see a step forward at some point. Jake
Browning has to take that next step.

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
If there's open.

Speaker 40 (01:37:13):
Receivers, he has to see them, he has to make
those throws. Because there were plenty of plays left on
the field last week where I certainly would say the
play design was fine, it was just the quarterback didn't
get them the ball. And if you're a coaching staff
or you're the leading an offense, that's struggling. You need
the quarterback to make those plays. The other thing is

(01:37:33):
the Bengals offense is designed one hundred percent around Joe Burrow,
so you kind of have to go back and rewrite
what you're doing and make it work for Browning. And
you've only had really two weeks of practice to do that,
So that adds a.

Speaker 35 (01:37:47):
Little bit of complication.

Speaker 40 (01:37:48):
We saw Mac Jones Thursday night in the forty nine
Ers game where he's runn Kyle Shanahan's offense. It's everybody's
running the same style. It's not I have to design
an offense for Brock Perdi or Mac Jones, and that's
not what the Bengals are. They have to redesign the
offense it fits what Jake Browning does. So it just
complicates things a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:38:06):
It does. Yeah, and they don't have the benefit of
a bye week that doesn't come until later on in November.
All Right, we're gonna keep hope alive. This thing looks
mount looks pretty tall here today, Bengals getting ten at
home handicapped Forrest John What happens and come eight o'clock tonight,
who's standing there.

Speaker 40 (01:38:24):
With the w I will say the Bengals cover that
ten point spread.

Speaker 35 (01:38:30):
It just feels like this is.

Speaker 40 (01:38:31):
One of those games where we're going to have to
leave it all on the ground.

Speaker 35 (01:38:34):
They just have to prove that Zach Tailor.

Speaker 2 (01:38:37):
Hasn't lost the locker room.

Speaker 40 (01:38:38):
They've been demoralized two straight weeks, so I do think
they're gonna come out with an edge. It's our first
home game that Jake Browning is going to be starting.
I think he plays reasonably well. But again it's the
Detroit lines. They're one of the best teams in football,
so I think they end up winning it by about a.

Speaker 2 (01:38:55):
Touchdown, all right, that's why they play the game. John
breechcbssports dot com. You stay well, all right, man, and
we will visit down the road. Thanks for having me
Ken anytime, anytime, anytime, anytime. I that's the way I'm
leaning this game. I said that when we had Sterling
on about an hour ago. The numbers two it's too inflated.

(01:39:15):
First of all, a home dog with ten, there's something
up with that, and it's not just based off the
last couple of games. It's it's just it's it's a
bad number. It's just it's you don't want that you
don't want. You don't want a four, and you don't
want a ten, So I would I would back off
that game. I do think the Bengals cover. I'm not

(01:39:37):
saying that that they're going to beat the Lions. That
would be foolish compared to what has happened the last
couple of weeks. But I don't think this is going
to be, you know, this blowout that everybody thinks is
going to happen. And you get a team into a
grind a little bit, you know, and you're you're in
the third quarter and that team is not going away,
and you might start doing some things if you're the

(01:39:58):
team that's supposed to win their outside your comfort zone. Look,
I'm just trying to keep hope alive here too. For
without hope, what do we have? Of course, we have
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who covered it was a man by the name of
Terrence Moore, beat writer for the Cincinnati Inquirer all those
years ago, and now he is pieced together a book
that I can't wait to get my hands on, because
it sounds like we're going to hear stories like we've

(01:43:51):
never heard before about Rose and Morgan and Perez and sparky,
and I'll let him just fill in the blanks. Let's
welcome on in from where he's living right now in Atlanta, Georgia.
The author of this book, Terrence Moore, how are you
on this glorious Sunday.

Speaker 31 (01:44:06):
Oh, I'm doing quite well. And I'll tell you.

Speaker 4 (01:44:11):
This book gives me chills.

Speaker 31 (01:44:13):
I wrote it, and I want to tell you anybody
that you don't have to be a rest fan.

Speaker 4 (01:44:18):
You don't have to be a baseball fan.

Speaker 31 (01:44:20):
I tell you, I dare you to read this book,
and I get chills if you're just a human being
for so many reasons.

Speaker 2 (01:44:27):
There you go. Boy, that's the best selled job any
author authors ever done. But it's you know, you had
a difficult task writing this book in this sense that
there have been a lot of works, a lot of
written word, both in print magazine and in book about
the Big Red Machine, and a lot of the stories,

(01:44:47):
as you well know, are so ingrained in history, they
just kept getting getting repeated, repeated, repeated, where sometimes fact
blurs with fiction. You had to come in with this
from early and eye witnessed point of view, knowing full
well what had been written in the past, and that
there were few surprises with this team, but yet you
found some surprises with this team. So you you obviously

(01:45:10):
are an archaeologist there, Terrence.

Speaker 31 (01:45:13):
Yeah, And here's one of the biggest compliments. I was
paying Marty Brenneman, of course, the Reds broadcaster for forty
six years through that Big Red Machine period.

Speaker 4 (01:45:22):
Marty did the four to this book.

Speaker 31 (01:45:25):
He said that I have tons of stuff in this
book that he didn't know, uh, and he was just mesmerized.

Speaker 10 (01:45:33):
By what I've gotten. He's not the only one that
said that.

Speaker 31 (01:45:36):
And this is the most unique Bigger Machine book ever
written can and for no other reason.

Speaker 4 (01:45:42):
It's take it from the perspective.

Speaker 31 (01:45:44):
You know, Mike has called My Bigger Machine the Tails,
Drama and Revelations of a fan turned journalist covering baseball.

Speaker 4 (01:45:51):
Great a team.

Speaker 31 (01:45:53):
And I went from being this diehard Bigger Machine fan
in nineteen sixty eight when we first moved to Cincinnati
from South in Indiana. My dad was an ATNT supervisor
who got transferred to Cincinnati. So I went from being
that dark heard fan of this team to going to
school at Miami University right up the road there, graduating

(01:46:16):
in May of nineteen seventy eight, and then a week
later working full time for Sinstant Inquirer. And among my
many assignments were they involved covering that big red machine
in those players. And I want to tell you something,
This was like an outer body experience to go from
being that fan of doing this and they always tell

(01:46:36):
you that you should never meet your heroes or I did,
and I want to tell you it was mostly a great,
great time for me for so many reasons, ranging from
medium all time favorite player Peede.

Speaker 4 (01:46:49):
Rose and seeing what he was really like.

Speaker 31 (01:46:52):
And I want to tell you something spoiler alert. I've
got nothing to say bad about ped Rose. He was
great to me, not only for years, but for decades.
Joe Morgan, Sparky Anderson. Not only did I meet these
guys that had the special relationship with them for decades
afterwards and led to a lot of intrigging stories along
the way.

Speaker 2 (01:47:10):
Oh I know, I am. I'm absolutely dead sure of that.
And the interesting thing I think about that team is
it was a team of characters. Each one was separate
in his own right. Everybody had their own personality, and
Sparky Anderson had the wherewithal to understand that you're not

(01:47:30):
all the same ballplayer, and so I will not treat
you all the same. We've got stars on this team.
We've got Bench, and we've got Roseen, We've got Morgan,
and they're the stars, and they're going to be treated
differently than some of you guys that only play once
every four or five days. And you're just going to
have to understand that. I think Sparky was a lot
of things. He certainly got a lot of attention for

(01:47:54):
the way he spoke and the words he used. But
the guy was kind of a self vaunt when it
came to managing baseball teams. Was he not?

Speaker 4 (01:48:02):
Well, there's no doubt about it.

Speaker 31 (01:48:03):
And he mentioned Sparky And let's say one of the
things that make this book you need And going back
to Martin brennanman, I have got stuff that nobody else
has ever had about this team, because these guys had
a tendency to tell me stuff that they never told
anybody else.

Speaker 4 (01:48:17):
You got to remember I was a rarity for two reasons.

Speaker 31 (01:48:20):
Number One, I was twenty two years old when I
was covering the team back.

Speaker 4 (01:48:26):
Then, and then the average age of a beat writer.

Speaker 31 (01:48:28):
And again I can put in perspective that back during
this time. This was a heyday of newspapers. Okay, so
the average age of a beat writer or a guy
covered team like they was just sory have deceased. I'm
the twenty two year old kids, and I'm also African American.
You know, I was the first African American ever to
cover baseball or to any extent at all, cly In

(01:48:51):
assist that area, and only the second one in the country.
So had that going on when you mentioned Sparky, uh well,
among the many things that sparked, he told me they
have never told anybody else.

Speaker 10 (01:49:02):
And this almost brought tears in my eyes. Been an
old Wrisk fan. We're talking one day, he's in Detroit.

Speaker 31 (01:49:08):
As the manager of the Tigers at this point, and
we're talking about the bigger Mrsaine and then he told me,
and we're talking about the Tony Periz trade that some
people may remember that they traded Tony Periz after they
won the second to second of World Championship in nineteen
seventy six, and a lot of people were upset with
that and rightfully sold because the feeling was they kept
Tony Peiz, they could have won multiple more World championships.

(01:49:33):
The players said that Sparky thought, told me. He says, no,
he said, we were done. Said, what do you mean?
He said, we wouldn't have won anything else after seventy six.
He said that that was that team had reached his feat.
He said, we were bored. He said, I was bored.
And then Sparky said that I cared more about football
than the Reds win another championship. And I was like son,

(01:49:57):
because I expected Sparky to say something totally than that.

Speaker 10 (01:50:00):
Sure, So it's things like that, stories like that I've
got throughout the book.

Speaker 2 (01:50:05):
The and I said, one of the unique things about
this book is not only were you a witness to it,
you were a witness to the rise, in the fall
the heyday, not necessarily the building of the team, you're
a younger man at that point, but the building of
the team and then how it was literally demolished because
this this this ownership group where it was scared to

(01:50:26):
death of what free agency would would mean and how
much it would cost. And the Perez trade is interesting.
I've always believed that the Perez trade was the thing
that ran Bob House him off, like it just it
turned his stomach so that he just said, look, I'm
done because I know what's coming in his wake. And
then along comes Dick Wagner, who basically was the hatchet one,

(01:50:48):
and uh, but it was it was it was Houshen
ownership forced Housen to get rid of Perez. Correct.

Speaker 31 (01:50:55):
Well, okay, I'm glad you missioned that Ken because you
missed the Bob. I've got a whole chapter on Bob
Housm here, and I know a lot of people out
there saying that, well, I've heard all everything that.

Speaker 10 (01:51:06):
Isn't know about Bob Housem. No, you have not read
this book.

Speaker 31 (01:51:11):
According to Marty Brindleman again, he said, seventy percent of
what I got from Bob Housm has never been said
before I got to set this up. Bob Housing was
very tight lipped with the media when he was with
the Rigs during that time. By happenstance, I just happened
to get Bob Housm near the end of his life

(01:51:31):
for another matter, and I was just donne what he
was telling me over the phone.

Speaker 10 (01:51:37):
He's like eighty eight years old.

Speaker 4 (01:51:39):
He told me everything.

Speaker 31 (01:51:40):
That went on with that team, the good the bad,
in the Italy, and he talked about twenty pres He
told me and this part of this has been missing before,
but I'm going to expand on this. He told me
the worst decision he made in his life was training
Tony Prez after the seventy sixth season that's actually won
the second World Championship, because he is how important he

(01:52:01):
was to that clubhouse. And he said that if you
had to do it all over again, he would have
kept twenty Perez and had twenty president Dan Dreeson, who
took Tony President's place, fight it out.

Speaker 10 (01:52:11):
And made the best man win. So that's one.

Speaker 4 (01:52:14):
Thing he told me.

Speaker 31 (01:52:15):
The other thing he told me that thought was very interesting,
the fire Sparky Anderson dig Wagner.

Speaker 4 (01:52:20):
He missed dig Wagner.

Speaker 31 (01:52:21):
Sparky dig Wagner fired Sparky Anderson after the seventy eighth
season when he finished second for the second secutive year.
Bob Hollisam, who was retired by then Bob Holism retired
after the seventy sixth season, said that he was he
Bob Holsem said he was absolutely shot when dig Wagner
did that. And then he said that then he told

(01:52:42):
me something that he's never told anybody else before.

Speaker 4 (01:52:44):
He says Big Wagner should have never ever.

Speaker 31 (01:52:47):
Been hired as a as a gentleman manager, because he
said that he was an overbearing personality, he was overmatched,
and he said that he was a good second man,
he says, but he wasn't good and that for this,
and how they went on to tell me, he said,
I can't tell you how many times I would tell
him me dig Wagner wanted me to fire a coach
or get rid of a player, just for a fact,

(01:53:11):
just to say that he did it so he could
send a message everybody else in the clubhouse.

Speaker 2 (01:53:17):
Yeah, well, Hasim would know. He and Wagner worked together
with the Cardinals. And I think when when Wagner was
with the Cardinals, he was a glorified pr guy. You know,
he would all these crazy promotions for the Cardinals and
then all of a sudden, and not about all of
a sudden, but within five years he's the general manager
of the Cincinnati Reads. And I think that that, to

(01:53:37):
me at the time, made me step step back and
wonder does ownership know what it's doing here?

Speaker 4 (01:53:42):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:53:42):
I mean, it's one thing to be the guy that's
out there with the acts and getting rid of people,
but that guy answers to somebody, So somebody had to
sign off on the trade of Perez and then uh
and then letting Rose go. My gosh, I'm surprised Johnny
Bench survived throughout his entire career here with with that philosophy.
But nevertheless, somebody above Wagner and for that matter of

(01:54:05):
Housen had to sign off on all of this stuff.

Speaker 31 (01:54:07):
Right, well, well let me tell you this now, Okay,
you missed Pete Rose. Pete Rose is my guy, and
I was talking to Bob Housen about the Pete Rose situation.
And for those who may not know, Pete Rose, of
course born and raised in Cincinnati, sixteen years with the
Reds and then the soccer in nineteen seventy eight, at
the end of the nineteen seventy eight season, Peter Rose

(01:54:28):
becomes a free agent, and baby line just tells you
how life works. And if you're a spiritual person like me,
there's such thing as acquisidents. Who wrote the first story
ever about Pete Rose starling for free agency? It was
going to become a fregent. It was me And it's
just that Inquirer went from this thirteen year old kid.

Speaker 4 (01:54:46):
Iized Pete Rose.

Speaker 35 (01:54:47):
I wrote the story.

Speaker 10 (01:54:49):
And it turns out later on when.

Speaker 31 (01:54:52):
I'm talking about Bob Howsham and that the interview I
was telling you about, I asked Bob, I said that
were you surprised?

Speaker 10 (01:55:00):
And again Bob was gone by this time.

Speaker 31 (01:55:02):
That Big Wagner allowed he Rose to leave the Reds
as a stra agent after the seventy eighth season and.

Speaker 4 (01:55:10):
Signed with the Philadelphia Phillies.

Speaker 31 (01:55:12):
And Bob Album told me something that I was sitting
down and that I almost saw on my chair. He says, well,
he said that what my understanding was, they had to
let Peede Rose leave Cincinnati because according to what the
police be Force told us, Pete owed thirty thousand dollars
to gamblers, and that we were told that if he

(01:55:35):
stayed with the red at least Dick Gregor was so
told that if he stayed with the Reds, he.

Speaker 4 (01:55:39):
Would be found in the bottom of the Ohio River.

Speaker 2 (01:55:42):
They don't make guys like you in journalism anymore. Wherewithal
to remember the wherewithal to go back and put everything
in context. And here it is now, my big Red Machine.
The Tails, Drama and revelations of a fan turned journalist
covering baseball's greatest team. That, of course is the sense
of that he reads, and he, of course is Terrence Moore.

Speaker 4 (01:56:02):
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:56:03):
It will be out on October the sixteenth. So here
in just a couple of days, Terrence, this is I
can't wait to get my hands on it. I'm sure
there are a lot of people that have heard this
that feel the same way. And look, man, good luck
with the book. And again, congratulations on hanging on to
the things that should be important to a journalist. Thanks

(01:56:24):
for your time here. We appreciate it.

Speaker 31 (01:56:26):
Well, you know, I'll just by saying this, people can
get a copy right now autograph from me, and they
go to my Bigger bit machine dot com and it
comes in hardcover or in paperback and you get it
for me right now.

Speaker 2 (01:56:39):
Holy crow, an autograph a trailblazer, who want that? Thank you, Terrence,
Stay well.

Speaker 4 (01:56:47):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:56:49):
There's a guy that knows he's an author, he's a journalist,
and he's a salesman boy combined all of that. Anyway,
the book comes out, as I just said, in a
couple of days. Here the tales, drama, and revelations of
a fan turned journalist covering Baseball's greatest team. The head
title my Big Red Machine, Terrence Moore, that's one that's

(01:57:14):
on the list. It's eleven fifty three already. News Radio
seven hundred WLW Rare

Speaker 1 (01:57:21):
White Bengals will be on the prowl October sixteenth, when
our AFC Division rivals, the Pittsburgh Steelers come to the
Jungle for Thursday

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