10-22-25 R+L Carriers Sports Talk with Lance McAlister

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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Allright, here we go six nine seven hundred WLW Welcome
into RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. I'm
Lance Pacan Lester. How you do it? Thanks for making
your way here. Settle in. We've got two hours to
work with tonight. I've got things planned, I've got guests
lined up. Let's get to the headlines so we can go.
We start with the Bengals back on the practice field today.

(00:45):
Trey Hendrickson back. He was limited with that hip injury.
Tanner Hudson returned to practice after missing the last game
in concussion protocol. He was limited. Cam Sample did not
practice with a knee injury. Zach Taylor said he won't
announce his starting guards for this week yet. He hopes
these spots solidify soon rather than rotating each week. Jamar

(01:06):
Chase is the AFC Offensive Player of the Week for
the fifth time in his career. Sixteen catches for one
hundred and sixty one yards and a touchdown. We'll do
that for you. The Bengals cleared defensive end Cedric Johnson
returned to practice today. Second year player was placed on
the reserve injured list August twenty sixth with a calf injury. Meanwhile,
Jets coach Aaron Glenn said he knows who his starting

(01:26):
quarterback is for Sunday against the Bengals, but he's not
saying you don't want to give the Bengals a competitive advantage.
Justin Fields was benched during Sunday's game. Tyrod Taylor replaced him,
but Taylor is listed day to day dealing with a
knee issue. Fields did reveal the media this afternoon they
split reps at the quarterback position. Other significant news from

(01:48):
Jets camp, Sauce Gardner did not practice concussion. Garrett Wilson,
leading wide receiver, did not practice knee issue. Fifty two
modern era players advanced in the voting process for the
Profoot Hall of Fame class of twenty twenty six. The
list includes former Bengal big Willie Anderson and Luke Keikley
not making the cut in his first year of eligibility,

(02:10):
former Bengal Geno Atkins. The Pro Bowl games are moving
to Super Bowl Week and the host site in San Francisco.
They'll take place at the Convention Center where Radio Row
will be in Frisco on Tuesday, February the third Baseball News,
Big Baseball News Tennessee volunteer baseball coach Tony Vittello has

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accepted the San Francisco Giants managerial position. The forty seven
year old is the first manager to be hired directly
from the college ranks with no pro experience college basketball.
Talk Bearcats with us, with us, after talk Bearcats after us.
He tried to say, with the return of the West

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Millers show at eight o'clock from the original Montgomery and
it's right here on seven hundred WLW Racing. Dayton announced
the Daytona five hundred and twenty twenty seven will be
February twenty first. That's the weekend after President's Day that
will avoid conflict with the Super Bowl. And for parents
with kids and those who enjoy Halloween fans can visit

(03:14):
the Reds Hall of Fame on Saturday for a day
of Halloween themed fun for all ages that include trigger
treat stations, a costume, a contest, meet and greets, and
opportunities to win prizes. The meet and great includes Marty Brenneman,
Todd Benzinger, Tommy Thrall, and seg one more final college
basketball note. The USA Today Coaches Poll, the preseason version

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is out. Purdue is won, Houston two, Florida three, The
Kentucky Wildcats in at number nine, Pat Kelsey's Uivale Cardinals
at ten. Mc cronin's UCLA Bruins in at twelve. The
uc Bearcats got enough votes to wind up forty first overall.
And again today's release of the USA Today Coaches preseason

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and the Bengals with Charlie's Chalkboard. You can get an
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him at Fox nineteen dot com. He's a regular contributor

(05:24):
to Fox nineteen now Digital shows. We welcome in Charlie Goldsmith.
Charlie I said earlier today, the more Joe Flacco talks,
the more interesting I find him. I wonder what has
most impressed you about him since his arrival.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
It's the fact that he feels like he's done this before.
It's just walking around the building the way he fits in,
the way dropping back in the pocket, he seems to
know exactly where to go, the way that he's turned
an incredibly bizarre, for lack of a best term experience
of coming into a new team and becoming a starter
and popping right up and saying all right, let's go,

(06:03):
let's do this, and this will never be totally normal,
and you know he's not gonna get a full training camp,
but it feels like everyone's reached a point now where
it's like, yep, we know the drill, we're rolling, We're going.
This is what it's gonna look like for the rest
of the season.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
I don't think anybody expects them to rush for six
point two yards to carry every game from here on out.
But can the run game the success they found Thursday night,
can that be replicated or is that more of a
one off because of the Steelers.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
I went through all the runs and all the most
notable runs especially, and all those plays you can see
Chase Brown just doing remarkable things, and like, Chase Brown
is in Jamar Chase. But you know how we just
expect Jamar to do remarkable things every week as long
as he has a quarterback who can functionally get him
the ball. Well, as long as Chase Brown has a

(06:52):
quarterback who can functionally run the offense and make defenses,
you know, play certain coverages and do this, and that's
gonna ad it, then Yeah, I think Chase Brown's a
guy who's more than talented enough to break a lot
of tackles, to break off one or two big runs
a game. It's those explosive that really rack up the average.
And that's just who Chase is when it's any sort

(07:13):
of functional offense. I think it wasn't even anything schematic.
I just think by having Flaco, Chase Brown gets to
be insult again.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
He wrote an excellent story earlier in the week, or
may have been tail end of last week about this
defense being young by choice, Charlie. That feels like something
a rebuilding team would do as opposed to a team
and contention. Does it say more about the youth or
say more about the reality of their veterans, Yes, they
wanted to.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
They could be starting Logan Wilson Orrin Burke's you know,
Cam Taylor, BRIT's a fourth year veteran. They could be
starting all of these older players, some of the veterans
you know, you look at Cam, you look at Geno Stone.
I think Logan Wilson has been fined, but put him
in this group as well. Just have regressed. And that's
concerning for a defense that was counting on some semblance

(08:01):
of veteran presence to lead an otherwise young unit through
the highs and the lows, because you know Barret Carter,
Demetrius Knight, Josh Newton, Valleph Murphy, Samar Stewart, who, by
the way, played a very poor game against the Steelers
that hasn't been talked much about, but he kind of
quietly got his role reduced significantly, not quite benched. But

(08:24):
that happened with Schamorrow over the course of the game.
Like that's life. When you're playing that many young players,
it's about what you expect. So there should be a
lot of attention on man, these veterans are letting the
defense down significantly because those are the guys you thought
you'd be able to count on.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Charlie, you study these guys, and you've studied Cam Taylor
Britt for a couple of years. How do you begin
to explain the fall off of a guy who at
one point looked like an emerging core player to now
being inactive.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
It's just a massive organizational loss. Like I know, I
don't expect the Bengals to, you know, be in the
Division round this year. Maybe they do it for a
come back, but these are the types of developments that
cost you Divisional AFC championship games. When you have a
guy who's supposed to be a corner giving you a
matchup advantage against Josh Allen and it turns out doesn't

(09:13):
even have a place on the field, it reminds me
of a pitcher who just can't find the strike zone
and the way that that leads to an individual.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
I don't want to.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Use the word spiring, but snowballing would be the word
I'm going for, because then you start trying to do
so much and can It's just been such a hyper
active player as opposed to just locking in on the fundamentals,
the details. He's trying to use another baseball analogy. You know,
hit an eight run homer when he steps up to

(09:43):
the plate, and then when he's zero for ten, then
he's trying to hit a sixteen run homer, and he
keeps digging and digging and digging that hole, and you
know now today he's working on special teams. I mean,
this is seemingly how it's going to be with him
going forward.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
You a an excellent piece about the possibilities of Jamar
Chase and receptions. And I mean, if it sounds funny
to say out loud, but twenty catches isn't out of
the realm of possibility in a game when you're Jamar Chase,
is it.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
I don't have the stats in front of me, Blake,
He's already one of six players in NFL history to
have two games of fourteen catches and one of eighteen
players to have I believe more than like, however, many
games of ten plus catches. But he's already proven that
he can get the ball as well as any receiver
in the history of the league at that level on

(10:33):
a consistent basis. Sixty catches on Thursday, there were two
catches overturned by replay, there were two soul called drops,
there were two defensive pass interference Like he legitimately could
have gotten twenty four catches. It was a really like
they're all fun, but this was a really fun story work,
and I just wanted our asking people how many could

(10:54):
Jamark get like twenty twenty five thirty Oh, well, thirty
was crazy. My answer after doing this deep dive and
talking to people is twenty five. Part of that too,
is the big thing with Jamar this year is they've
remade the screen game and that's really helped him.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
You have the you've had your finger on the on
the pulse of this team through ups and downs over
the years. I wonder about the vibe now and the
is there a true sense of found juice and now
possibilities for this team.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
I think that's the power of Flacco just in terms
of everyone feels like they can do their job again
and operate in exactly the way I was described with
Chase Brown. But I also want to be a lill
cautious too, because, like you know, Joe flaccill look like
twenty twelve Joe Flacco the other day. He's still going
to take a lot of stats. He's still gonna abandon
downs by throwing the ball away too quickly. Turnovers have

(11:48):
been his biggest problem over the last few seasons. We
haven't seen any yet, and that will probably come. So
you know, Flacco's probably what the twenty fifth ish best
quarterback in football and he's performed to the top ten
level over the last couple of weeks. So you have
some concern as the pass rushers get more daunting, as

(12:08):
you face some sticky secondaries, as Flacker himself just has
games where he's not humming or he's not rolling. That's
something they'll have to guard against. That'll be the challenge
they face during the second half of the season. But
right now, Flaco has brought juice back to an organization
that had no juice, and that is worth a lot.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Try to I gotta drop a reds question too before
I let your run always great, catch it up. I
talked to La last night. I'll ask you what, in
your mind, what is Eli's best position for him and
this team in twenty twenty six And do you get
a sense that is an internal conversation.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, it's a conversation. I'm going to be at the
GM meetings in a couple of weeks and that's my
number one question, because you know, when I asked a
couple of weeks ago, I think those conversations hadn't yet
been had. I think the underdiscussion. Sure, you could very
well talk me into Ellie playing center, but the underdiscussed.
Part of this is where the heck with the Reds

(13:06):
then find another middle end fielder because Edwin o Royo.
We like Edwin Arroyo, but the plan would not be
to just plug Edwin into a spot in twenty twenty six.
We like Avin Lux you know, I think he's a
polished hitter, but the limitations he show defensively, the plan
would not be McLain at short lust second. You know,
is Stewart at second, like, where are you finding that

(13:27):
second basement? If the Reds can find that and target
that and move pieces around and get Elliot center, yeah,
you know you could talk me into that. You can
also talk me into the fact that they just don't
have a way to find realistically that type of player.
So the best combination that they can come up with
still when include Elliott's short We'll see, you know, we'll see.

(13:48):
I think it's just the true answer on that, the
most accurate thing I can report, and we'll see how
the market unfolds.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Charlie, tell everybody what you've got cooking and where they
can read watch follow along.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
You hit it off the top, Charlie, Chalkboard substat Fox nineteen.
It's a fun time of year we go. You know,
so the Bengals, we know who they are. Again I
mentioned some Reds off season stuff. So thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
You got it. Always good catching up. I hope we
can do it again soon.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Skip there you go, Charlie Goldsmith Charlie's chalkboard. How about
that for a jam packed informative ten minutes plus with
Charlie g very much enjoy it all the time. Let's
do this. Let's take a time out, we come back,
say to Kansas City. When we come back Big twelve
Media Day, we'll talk with Scott Springer of the Inquirer

(14:36):
Cincinia dot Com on you see Basketball. May drop in
a football question as well. That after we check news.
Thanks for being here tonight, rolling till eight the season
debut the return of The West Miller Show at eight tonight.
Let's check news now on RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented
by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WLW. All right, let's head

(15:05):
to Kansas City where it's day two of Big twelve
Basketball Media Day. Yesterday, the women, today, the men. My
next guest is all over it, on the scene and
covering it all for the inquire Cincinnai dot Com. Always
a pleasure to welcome in, Scott Springer. How is Kansas City?

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Wonderful?

Speaker 5 (15:23):
The sun's out, it's maybe about seventy It was thirty
nine this morning, So a brisk walk over to the
T Mobile Center. But I just walked back and very
pleasant now. But I had to walk back because they're
dismantling the place because somebody named Kat Williams and then
maybe Tate McCrae.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (15:41):
These people are coming to the T Mobile Center and
they didn't want me there.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
They had things to do, so understood, understood.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yes, uh we finished up.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
Yeah, good eventful day.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Let's talk about this Bearcat team. And West has always
been an intense guy himself. I was struck by HEARDing
you the term competitive edge about his guys a couple
of times today. That seems like an important part of
the DNA. He likes about this basketball team, the edge
they can play.

Speaker 5 (16:09):
With well, and that's one of the reasons he recruited
the pure Cresa who comes with a lot of edge.
And there's a dude you got to get on the radio.
That guy's funny from Estonia, a great personality and a
little bit of news today, Maybe there's a chance he
could have. How about this welcome to the New Era,

(16:32):
a seventh year possibility. Yeah, so he's played five, this
is six, and there may be seven though. I don't
know the loophole, but it has to do something with
his freshman year at Arizona, which was the twenty one season.
He played eight games, played nine games last year of
Kentucky due to injury. So I don't know how it

(16:54):
works or whatever. If you remember Daday, Thomas got an
extra year because they decided junior college years don't count,
which gave UC an extra year and the ked to
winning anymore. You hear all these coaches saying it is
to be old. You know it used to be you
know that they were the.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
One and done.

Speaker 5 (17:13):
Were these high school kids coming in and then going
to the league, And now they want to be old.
And heck now they're reaching into the G league and
pulling guys back into college. So whatever applied doesn't apply anymore.
It's kind of like gambling in sports.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
I don't know, Scott.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
I wonder what a guy like Kerr with in personnel.
Do they have the ability to pace wise push it
more than maybe they have in the past.

Speaker 5 (17:40):
Yeah, and that's what he really likes, and Dayda Thomas
likes that. Kerr likes to push the ball. And if
you watched when they made their run against Michigan there
in the first half, they were pushing the ball and
they're really excited about that first half. And then that's
something that some of the guys on staff I was
talking to that they think that that's what they're about.
They want to do that. And if you really look

(18:01):
at that second half, Misigan's trying to win that game.
They played their guys, they played the Lindenborg played thirty
one or the forty minutes, and the Bearcats kind of
kept to their mo and split the time up. I
think Toom played twenty six, but you know, halveen Zella
played thirteen minutes. Typically in a game against the number

(18:21):
sevent team in the nation, that's not happening. So now
let's not get ahead of our ski as we go
back to last year at Ohio State and everyone thought,
oh my god, before here we come, people were booking
hotel rooms and that might have been the best game
they played. It went down hill that you're right, yet

(18:42):
every point it was a slippery slope from there. So
I think this team is better personnel wise looking at it.
But the pundits, you know, they're a little bit snake bit.
The John Rothstein's who he was there today, all the
famous people, Seth Davis, I got the pressures with greatness.
I'm just a guy that snuck in somewhere. But it's

(19:04):
fun talking to all these guys. The fran threw Shield
is them all. But but you know, I think Rostein
has them forty in his in his forty five and
everyone's saying NC double A or bus and there there's
something to that. Yeah, but you wonder it's like everyone
that put them, you know, top twenty last year, they're going, well,
I don't want to do it this year because I

(19:26):
got bit. So I think they're every bit is good.
But that's the reason they're not ranked. And maybe sometimes
it's better than not being ranked. You go back to
the final four team in ninety two. I don't think
they were even ranked till mid January.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Scott Springer check it in from the Acquire Cincinni dot
Com covering the Bearcats for a big twelve media day
in Kansas City. Jalen Hayes big man out indefinitely. What
do they lose in his absence or and who might
gain opportunities in his absence?

Speaker 5 (19:57):
Fink Tyler McKinley is the one that could get the minutes,
and he got some there against Michigan. Came in, got
some big boards. He's a great rebounder, and he's somebody
that they would have played last year as a freshman.
And then he blew his knee out so he had
to wait. But you know, he hit a three. They
had a lot of guys hitting threes. Chom hit a three.
So right now you're front cord. It's Chom Baba Miller

(20:20):
who everyone loves. Fran Traschilla loves Baba Miller says he's
the best NBA prospect right now. And then McKinley, and
you know you miss with with Haines. It's a wide
body dude that you know, if you're old school like me,
you like that guy that can dishrub his button to
the post and get things done. But I don't know

(20:40):
if they're going to have him back by the end
of the year or there will be a medical red shirt.
I think they're exploring all those possibilities, but I don't
think he's going to play anytime soon now. Jalen Celstein,
who did not play against Michigan, is supposed to get
some minutes Friday against Arkansas. He's another guy. If you
remember the UC Baylor game that was a fifth third arena.

(21:01):
Celestine started at a decent game and he's another you know,
six seven guy that can play a lot of spots.
You know, the so called positionless basketball is kind of
what they're geared for anymore.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
What are your impressions to this point of the much
hyped in balleyhood freshman shan Abayev.

Speaker 5 (21:20):
Well, I saw him at Overtime Elite last year in Atlanta,
and it was right before the night before the US
he played Georgia Tech. So we got down there and
were able to go to overtime Elite. Now, overtime Elite
is not like Anderson High School or any other place
with wooden bleachers or you named the high school. It

(21:40):
is showtime. They got lights, they got big scoreboards, so
that atmosphere. I think he's used to that, and you know,
Chrystl Arena had ten thousand plus in there the other night.
I don't think he was fas Now will he v
faith and some other games.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
Who knows that.

Speaker 5 (21:56):
Man, he looked like the dude that I saw playing
against the high school kid that night. And he basely's
the six eight point guard. He can do a lot
of things.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
You you ran across talk to us, so you tweeted
about the former Bearcat Dan Skillings. Obviously last season with
the Bearcats did not go as he or anybody wanted.
How how does he seem now and how does he
feel about this new opportunity.

Speaker 6 (22:22):
Seems happy, you know.

Speaker 5 (22:24):
I guess the change of scenery might help. They wanted
him and against Grand Canyon, I think he had a
double double in their first exhibition. They brought him to
media day, so they must think a lot of him.
And I don't know I heard him well since he's gone.
He told somebody that maybe he should have redshirted last year,
So I don't know. I'm not a medical expert. To

(22:46):
us all I think, let's be honest, it didn't look
like he was into it some games. When Dan Skillings
is into it, he's as good as he wants to be.
And I just that's what I couldn't figure out, is, man,
here you are. You should be on the floor and
taking command. And for a guy that was recruited for
his rebounding with the length, there were some odd games

(23:07):
where you know, you only have like two rebounds. And
so if he gets his head together, which he's a
great kid, you know, don't get me wrong, wonderful, pleasant
to talk to today. He said all the right things,
and I hope he does well. He will be back
at fifth third Arena January twenty eighth, fully expecting to
be booed. But I think he realizes that his girlfriend

(23:32):
on if he's engaged yet or not, but she's from Cincinnati.
She was on the dance team, so he likes Cincinnati.
Even mentioned that this is someplace I'd like to come
home and you know, lay my head and start a family.
So he may be back around town at some point,
but for right now, he's in Baylor. And it's so
funny you go back to April and Skillings was the

(23:52):
first guy that jumped into the portal and then next
thing you know, the whole team is out and everyone's going, well.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Is there a team?

Speaker 5 (23:58):
What's happening guys? And then here come these other guys,
Here comes the Calgary, it comes more in and it's
so odd anymore because when you were I were growing up,
it was you knew the players on the teams and
you knew who'd expect back. Uh, and now it's just
so different, you don't know. And the Senior Days are

(24:20):
meant for guys that have been around for six months,
and hold a black up.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
For those who are following along, who want more on
the Bearcats, who are wondering what's going on in Kansas City.
Tell everybody what you have, what you have in the works,
what you've posted, and what will be posted.

Speaker 5 (24:37):
Well posted today's stuff. Yet the women's the media day
stuff was up today, I believe. Also did two football
stories yesterday while I was here covering women's basketball because
he had a Scott saderfield presser, davidr Ands presser. I
covered that remotely, so a couple of things out on that.

(24:58):
Of course, it's a big football game Saturday for homecoming
four o'clock. I did a Baylor podcast today, So my
head's spinning about like yours here. You're all over the
place with every sport. So uh, I just wanted to
be like Lanceford Day would be really busy. But it
was a lot of things coming out, a lot of
things going on and hopefully I can get home. I

(25:18):
got here my plane that took off, it slammed on
the brakes going to Chicago and the engine blue and
we had we had to go through dullas to get here.
And there was a woman as we're getting rebooked and
she's saying to the attendant. She goes, well, am I
going to get compensated for this? I said, I'm your compensation?

Speaker 2 (25:38):
It is you are upright?

Speaker 4 (25:41):
What do you want?

Speaker 1 (25:43):
He is Scott Springer of the Inquiry Cincinnati dot com
and he's on X at S Springer Sports. Appreciate you
making Tom and a busy day. You always enjoyed the conversation.

Speaker 5 (25:53):
Thank you, Thanks very much, sir.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
All Right, there you go, Scott Springer, got a cover
for you today. Let's do this time out of come back.
A little bit from Zach Taylor today about the significance
of Sunday consistency for Cam Taylor, britt and the Ring
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(26:45):
the Bengals a what do we call it? A focus
and maturity game, because clearly the win on Thursday night
gets them to three and four, saves the season at
least for the moment, provides some juice and some some
hope at three and four, and there's a tendency with
that comes a little bit of the excitement of Man,

(27:05):
you look at the schedule. It's a three game homestand
how many teams get to play three straight at home.
You've taken care of Pittsburgh. If you take care of
the Jets and take care of the Bears, you hit
the buy at five and four. And I would encourage,
as Zach did earlier today, to maybe pump the brakes
a little bit and focus simply on the importance of
Sunday in beating the Jets. Here's the coach, just.

Speaker 7 (27:30):
This game is really all that I care about. You know,
we'll focus on whatever's after that after that. But right now,
Dean OL'HANDLM is just a little bit of success. We
haven't had a lot of success, just a little bit.
I've seen how we handle the adversity when things go bad.
It's the guys have responded the right way, found a
way to get a big win. Okay, now you put
that one behind it, and you keep trying to improve.
We have not come close to reaching our potential as

(27:51):
a team yet, and so that's all important is guys
continue to improve until we play our best game against
the Jets, and then whatever comes at us after that
we can focus on that.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Zach earlier today talked with Charlie Goldsmith in the opening
second segment of the night about Cam Taylor Britt and
how you explain where he once was, the track he
was on, and where he is now today was on
special teams at practice. Zach was asked about the need
for Cam Taylor Britt to find some consistency, some repetitive

(28:21):
you know, positive plays make some progress. Here's more of
Zach on Cam Taylor Brit.

Speaker 7 (28:28):
He's a guy I pulled for. I want him to
do well, I want him to have the opportunity. I
want him to take advantge of the opportunity. We've seen
what it looks like when it's really good, and I
think he's focused on regaining that.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
You still believe he can help this team absolutely. How
would you characterize this at It is that it has.

Speaker 7 (28:45):
Been good, you know, and he understands looking for exactly
and we'll just we'll look to see that consistency show up,
and I trust that I can.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Zach also talked about the Ring of Honor Today. What
a Sunday it's going to be at paid Court with
Lamar Parrish being inducted into the Ring of Honor, Dave
Lapham being inducted into the Ring of Honor. Here's Zach
on recognizing the significance of that moment.

Speaker 7 (29:09):
I think it's just cool to see. I love when
I go into other stadiums, I'm always that's what I do.
I just sit there in pretty game more on some
I'm looking around and trying to remember any memories I
have of those players, and so I think it's special.
This is such a strong history dating back to the
sixties here and all the great players that have come
here and I've always enjoyed hearing Mike Brown told one
off stories on different guys, some of the Ring of Honor,

(29:31):
some not. I love that kind of stuff, and so
I think it's really cool to recognize our players. To
see those names up there forever, those those men, to
those that are around, to get a chance for their
kids and grandkids to see them up there. I think
that's spectacular. Slap them over here. You know, it'll be
really neat, you know, for his whole family, everybody to
get up here and see see it up there and

(29:52):
never goes away. You know, you think of all the
players that play in this league and have impacted every
different city. To have your name up there is the
best of the best.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
That's the It's not the.

Speaker 7 (30:01):
Point one percent. That's the point one percent. You know,
all the guys that come through this building.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
So pretty neat, Congressiator, that's gonna be cool. On Sunday,
Lamar Parrish and Dave Lapham. You know, Lamar last played
for the Bengals in nineteen seventy seven, and this was
a fan vote obviously that got him in. What I
had him on Sports Talk. I asked Lamar about his
appreciation for the fans and what this means to his family.

(30:26):
Here's what Lamar told me.

Speaker 6 (30:28):
Hey, you know the fans then Cincinnati was off the chain. Yes, sir,
I mean that I can't recome some hey, some of
the fans every time I run the till they will
have to make up play, Lamar, make a play so hey.
That was exciting to me, and they motivated me to
be the player that I am today, and I want
to thank them. I want to thank all of you

(30:51):
guys for selecting me and voting for me.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Is I bet your Your family just has to be
so excited about this.

Speaker 6 (31:00):
They are because it has been a long time coming,
and I'm of it. They are excited. They are ready
to go. They are ready to see me put that
jacket home. And hopefully this will spring board me to
the Hall of Fame, the NFL Hall of Fame, and
and that would be the up to the goal for me.

(31:20):
I could close the book dead.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
I'm so happy for you. The city is so happy
for you, The fan base is happy for you. Congratulations
and enjoy this all right.

Speaker 6 (31:29):
Thank you. Tell everyone in Cincinata that I will be
back and I love them. The other one to push
me over the top and I'm grateful to have.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Played Lamar Parrish. What a cool dude when you show
me on sports Talk after the announcement, let's get a
check on news. Turn the corner into the seven o'clock hour.
You won't believe what I found of the archives. Oh man,
you'll hear it ahead. RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by
Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WLW. The following takes place between

(32:10):
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(32:33):
Joe Wadell, your producer me Lance Mcallis, you're your host.
We thank you for being a listener tonight and taking
the time to tune in. We blew through the six
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Also Scott Springer on the scene in Kansas City for
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(32:56):
I'm just taking my name, it'll pull up the page
and the podcasts and by modern office methods. All right,
I had to make a decision. I began the week
planning a three hour show tonight, and I try to
plot out over the weekend what I'm going to try
to do each night. And this was three hours, and
so I plotted it out, and then last night found

(33:19):
out that tonight was the return of the West Miller Show,
so I lost an hour, So I went from three
to two. So I had to figure out what to
do topic wise. And I could have I could have
just lopped off my eight o'clock hour topics, or I
could have moved it into the seven and got rid
of the seven. And I'll be honest, they were They
were very two, very different hours. Because the eight o'clock

(33:41):
hour tends to be the lightest hour of the show.
It's later in the evening, it's more fun, and although
I try to make everything fun and light, but the
eight o'clock hour really even more so. And originally I
was gonna split this hour and it was going to
be a little bit on I wanted to do a
topic on credit. If anyone thought there was credit it
do Zach Taylor and Dan Pitcher and Justin Ruscatti, the

(34:08):
offensive coaches or Duke Tobin for what has transpired with
Joe Flacco. For all the excitement and the hoopla of
the win last week, I've heard, I've heard virtually no
credit offered Duke. And you know I'm a critic of Duke,
but even I recognize, Wait a minute, he flipped a
fifth round pick for a sixth round pick to get
Joe Flacco. What a trade? And Joe Flacco came in

(34:33):
and played two games in eight days and performed at
that level. Certainly there would be some level of credit
due the head coach and play caller, and the offensive
coordinator and Dan Pitcher and the passing game coordinator and
Justin Ruscatti, some level of I always thought, if we're
going to complain and criticize about what goes wrong when
something like this is going right, there would seem to

(34:55):
be some credit deserved for those parties. And so I
thought that might be a topic. And I thought we
might split the hour and include maybe the nil the
high school NIL deal that is the temporary restraining order
and that gets kind of complicated and in the weeds,
and I thought those would probably be good and thought provoking,
but I don't think they'll be as fun as what

(35:18):
I thought we'd do in the eight o'clock hour because
I think the eight o'clock hour stuff was going to
be fun and it would stir memories and it would
make a connection with you back to moments in your
life as a sports fan in this city. So long
winded way of saying, my executive decision was to blow
up the original seven o'clock hour and move the eight
o'clock hour into this hour. So if you're ready now,

(35:41):
lant's just get to the topic. Okay, okay. October twenty second,
nineteen ninety and I found this Associated Press story and
it reads as follows. Capping a weekend long celebration that
was fourteen years the making, Baseball fans brought umbrellas and

(36:02):
brooms to Fountain Square today for a rally to honor
the world champion Cincinnati Reds despite his steady reign. More
than twelve thousand people jammed the downtown square to welcome
the Reds, who arrived in open convertibles for their season
farewell after sweeping the Oakland A's. Thousands of others took
the day off or skip school to attend. Jeff Glass,

(36:23):
age seventeen said, quote, we're going to get yelled at
who along with three of his friends, cut out of classes.
But we're willing to pay the piper. Police spokesman Lieutenant
Gary Glazier. Glazier estimated the crowd between twelve to fifteen
thousand on Fountain Square more standing along the five block
parade route. It was this date, nineteen ninety the Reds

(36:46):
came home and the celebration was on on Fountain Square.
I have for you from the archives some audio of
that you are going to hear, boy, and it was
rating that you're gonna hear. Marty and Joe. They're up
on the stage and the team joined them on the stage,
and Marty and Joe call up various players one by

(37:08):
one and they make a brief speech, a rally cry
to the crowd. The crowd goes nuts, and it's a
couple of minutes long. But I figured it would be
it would be worth it because it ties into this
date and to hear some of these guys talking, to
remember that moment on this date in nineteen ninety, I
thought it would be pretty cool. And you know me,

(37:28):
if it's on this date and I've got audio from
the archives, this would be a matt Ree special. I said,
let's see scale scale of topics this date and the
Fountain Square rally and here Marty and Joe talk with
the players or nil and some other things. I'm going
with this, and this is a little bit of how

(37:49):
it sounded.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
Hello, Cincinnati, who is the best baseball team in the world.
There can be no question in our minds that he

(38:14):
is a manager of the Year in the National League.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Loop Vanilla.

Speaker 8 (38:22):
The first thing I'd like to say is that I'm
really proud of our team. I'm proud of you fans,
and I'm proud for the city. You know, I think
the nineteen ninety Reds baseball season exempliflies, what America is
all about and what made this country great. That hard
work and dedication and the will to win and pride

(38:43):
to your work. And I think that was very evident
on this ball club this year. And I'd like to
just tip my hats to of them all. They played
their hearts out and they're world champions.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
You want to meet the guys.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
Hold on Neil throwing up close to close to here.

Speaker 9 (39:01):
In the seventies, I heard about this, but I never
envisioned to be like this. And Hopley could talk all
their crap, but we'll be wearing those rings.

Speaker 10 (39:09):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 9 (39:13):
Rop Doble, Yes, sir, you guys are the greatest. That's
why we wanted to sing. It's because we got great support.
You people believed in this when nobody else in America did.
We went out there, we.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Kicked their ass.

Speaker 9 (39:31):
And we are the World champions up the world.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
We are the best.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
We are number one. Thank you. I love you all.

Speaker 11 (39:40):
All right, Rob, I call him the Hammer. You know
that pinshit singlely got over at Riverfront here the other night.
You remember it. You know what I'm talking about. They
blamed it on the astra turf. Who gives up damn
Whether it was astro turf, it was up.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
Base hit, Bully Bates.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Thank you Cincinnati.

Speaker 11 (40:05):
Y'all are number one right along with the World Champs.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
I'm winning him.

Speaker 11 (40:16):
Thank you for the great time of Cincinnati. We're number
one and we're gonna do it again next year. Here's
a guy that personally I'm as happy for as anyone
because we all know the tragic accident and he had
at second base a couple of years ago. He came back,

(40:37):
He's on the World Championship team. Had some things to
do with it, run Oaster, wire the wire, and we
went in with the sleep.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
We're world deepen by hokin.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
Yeah boy, I'm being low. I'm here with the rest
of my crew.

Speaker 9 (41:08):
I remember being out here in nineteen seventy five, in.

Speaker 11 (41:10):
Nineteen seventy six, we want it then we gonna bring
it back again next year.

Speaker 12 (41:15):
Here to wrap up the program today, I like to
bring mart shot back with Shatzi. She's gonna lead you
in the singing of take Me Out to the ball Game.

Speaker 13 (41:30):
This has been a wonderful day for all of my
players and wonderful day for me.

Speaker 6 (41:36):
Thank you for doing it.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Now let's go into that song that we love.

Speaker 13 (41:40):
Take me out to the ball game, Take me out
with the crowd, buy me some peanuts and crack bird jacks.
I don't care if I never get back, So it's
WoT root for the whole team. If they don't win,

(42:01):
its a shame.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
So it's one, two, three strikes.

Speaker 13 (42:06):
You're round at the old bomb game.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
God love you.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
This date nineteen ninety. Now before you panic start yelling
at me, I know, I know, I know. I didn't
leave out the best part. I just separated it to
play it Now, of all the things said that day,
this will forever live in the lore of Cincinnati sports,
probably next to you don't live in Cleveland, you live

(42:38):
in Cincinnati, probably the second most significant and remembered quote
in the history of Cincinnati sports. It was delivered by Spuds.
Listen to what Chris Sabo uttered that day on the stage.

Speaker 9 (42:53):
I like to thank everybody because you guys are pretty good.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
And uh, I don't like to say that.

Speaker 14 (42:58):
Don't get its a chance.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
We kicked her act a far stray, and that's.

Speaker 11 (43:02):
All I gotta say.

Speaker 6 (43:03):
And all I think.

Speaker 14 (43:06):
We cut our mouths shut.

Speaker 10 (43:07):
We just went out there and improved it on the field.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
They could talk all they want, but they's at home
all winter and they know.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
They don't got nothing because we.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Got the ring, we got the money.

Speaker 6 (43:16):
We got everything I do.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
I could just listen to that on an endless loop,
because there is just something so incredible about Chris Sabo,
just so wound up and excited and just searching for
words to sum it up and coming up with that.
Oh it is gold. Reading the final paragraph from this

(43:43):
AP story October twenty second, nineteen ninety, now this is
a shocker. It also said this story. Bill Cunningham, a
talk show host on WLW Radio, the Red's flagship station,
spoke to the crowd as they waited for the players
to arrive, Cunningham saying, quote, I'd rather be in Cincinnati
and wet than be in Oakland and be a chump end. Quote.

(44:08):
By the time the players arrived, I guess there was
this delay getting back from the airport and from the
airport to Fountain Square. Story said. By the time the
players arrived, the sound man had been through Queens, we
are the champions, can't touch this and Red's rap several
times waiting for the arrival of the players. Let me
do this just by chance. Let me open up the lines.

(44:29):
If you happen to be there that day, skip work,
skip school, if you happen to be there and experience
that moment on this date, nineteen ninety on Fountain Square,
do tell five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand,
one eight hundred the big win. I don't have a
whole lot of time. I gotta get out at eight
for the West Miller Show. I got a couple of
things to get to, but I would love to hear

(44:51):
your memories and recolleation A recollection of this date October
twenty second, nineteen ninety when they celebrated on Fountain Square
a sweep of the Oakland A's That is next Darnell
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(45:15):
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(45:36):
the hour, It's time to Track the Machine. In honor
of this year's fiftieth anniversary of the nineteen seventy five
Big Red Machine, we do a daily status check on
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(45:59):
fifty years ago, Tonight, Track in the Machine, Oh I
was a very happy nine year old. I convinced my
parents to let me stay up. Said, oh, come on,
they're gonna win the World Series tonight, and the Reds
would beat the Boston Red Sox, wrapping up a classic
seven game World Series. Joe Morgan's ninth inning bloop single
in the center field scored Ken Griffy as the decisive hit.

(46:22):
The Reds win their first World Series in thirty five years,
not since nineteen forty. You know what is forgotten about
that game? And I went back and looked at the
box score today, Don Gullet, now this is game seven.
This is the day after the dramatic Carlton Fisk home
run the night before, which again I begged my parents
to stay up. That game ended at twelve thirty one

(46:44):
in the morning, and it was on a school night,
and I stayed up and I watched every single pitch
of it. But in the third inning, this is game seven,
Don Gellett gave up three runs, including walking back to
back Red Sox with the base is loaded to force
in runs and Sparky stuck with him. Gullett actually pitched

(47:06):
four innings and then Sparky went to the bullpen. They
trailed three to nothing and the six Tony Perez hits
the two run home run on the Iphis pitch from
Bill Lee that cut it to three to two. Pete
had the RBI single to tie it in the seventh,
and Joe Morgan the two out bloop single in the
center field. Will mckinnenny getst the final three out Sasar
Geronimo hauls in the final out in center field. The

(47:27):
bullpen in that game pitched five innings of shutout baseball,
allowing one hit After Gullet. It was Jack Billingham, Clay Carroll,
and Will mcinanny as the Reds wrap it up. And
I was reminded today in searching for this in the archives,
and I don't have Marty and Joe stuff because they
didn't They didn't call that game. But I'll never forget

(47:49):
as a kid, thinking, Wow, Kurk Goaddy didn't sign it,
sound very excited about that. Kirk Gowdy was the NBC
Baseball play by play voice for that World Series. He
also had been the Red Sox voice for some fourteen
years earlier in his career, and so there was an
affinity an affection for the Red Sox, and it sure

(48:12):
certainly came through during the broadcast. Listen to this. This
is the final out of arguably the greatest World Series
of all time, a Game seven that was decided in
the ninth inning. And listen to the excitement of Kirk
Gowdy's call.

Speaker 10 (48:31):
To down nobody on Joe Morgan's bloop single. Right now
is the difference Don of the ninth benning. He put
the Reds ahead o the mall that should be all
over Geronimo's under and Cincinnati has won the World Championship,
beating the Boston Red Sox four to three. The Reds

(48:52):
win it in Fenway Park. Them and the veterans on
this team have been very frustrated. They wanted this one badly.
After winning one hundred and eight times this year, setting
all kinds of records. It would have been a deep
disappointment for them not to win, but they ran up
against the ball club that extended them right down to
the final inning of Game seven. This was the Reds

(49:14):
one hundred and fifteenth sector to high.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Kurt, control yourself. That excitement is infectious and it is
overwhelming the broadcast. You gotta calm down this date as
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the Machine. I had a blast with this. I would

(49:38):
love to do it next year for the nineteen seventy
six season again hint Dwayne and the guys love doing it.
Thanks for the support of this segment and it was
really cool looking back to Track the Machine on the
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(50:00):
check news. RNL Carrier Sportstock presented by Kelsey Chevalet seven
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(50:21):
presented by Kelsey Chevrolet Apliance Pactlister. Hey, thanks for hanging
out tonight. Wes Miller Show coming up top of the hour.
Just reading during the break more of the reaction around
Major League Baseball tonight. This is you talk about a
day turned baseball upside down. If you have not heard
the San Francisco Giants and Buster Posey, the former catcher

(50:42):
who runs the organization, now they have done what no
Major League baseball team has ever done before. They hired
a college baseball coach today. Not just any college baseball coach.
They hired the coach of the national champion Tennessee Volunteer
College World Series champ Tennessee Volunteers, Tony Battell, who is
forty seven years old. He becomes the first ever major

(51:05):
league manager who went from college to the major leagues
with no previous any prior major league experience, player, coach, manager, anything.
It is the ultimate and out of the box roll
the dice by Buster Posey looking to change things in
the Giants organization. And if you don't know, google Tony

(51:25):
Vittello and you will get a personality that is fiery,
it is competitive. It rubs some people the wrong way.
He's been suspended a couple of times for run ins
with umpires and chess bumping an umpire. He's considered to
be over the top. He encourages his player's personalities to

(51:46):
come out and not hold back, whether that's bat flips
or anything else. He is a high energy guy. He's
considered the best recruiter in college baseball. He spent fifteen
years as an assistant coach at three different programs, in
college baseball. Then in twenty seventeen he was hired to
become the coach of the Tennessee Volunteers, and he took off.

(52:09):
They go to the College World Series in twenty twenty one,
they go to the College World Series. In twenty twenty three,
they win the College World Series in twenty twenty four.
He went two hundred and fifty seven and eighty one
in his time at Tennessee. He gets today a three
year contract worth over reportedly three and a half million
dollars a year, with an option for a fourth year.

(52:32):
I think it's three years with an option for a fourth.
Having never played, coached or managed in the major leagues,
and I think most are sitting back saying, let's go,
let's see how this works. I mean, on one hand,
you argue Baseball's baseball. On the other hand, college baseball
major league baseball aren't the same length of season, strategy,

(52:53):
there aren't games every day. You handle your pitchers differently.
I would assume he's smart enough to have a pitching
coch with major league experience that will be part of
his staff. But there's a lot of different dynamics that
are different to the game of Major League baseball from college.
But there's a lot obviously that are very similar to
the basis of the same length. And you know, you
play nine innings, and I cannot wait to see in

(53:15):
Buster Posey making his mark in a major way today
going to the college ranks. Now, and you talk about
a day of comparing contrast. The Giants hire a college
baseball manager who has nothing in the majors on his
resume and gave him three years with an option for
a fourth. The Angels today hired Kurt Suzuki as their manager,

(53:42):
former major league catcher eighteen years as a major league catcher.
I want to say, he'd worked the last three as
an assistant to the general manager in the Angels organization. Now,
get this, They gave him a one year deal, and
the general manager basically said, who has one year left
on his deal? He's tied to me, meaning the organization

(54:06):
and the general manager. Well, we've got one more year
with the guy running the show, So we're not going
to have you bring somebody in and give them. If
you're a four year deal, we'll give them what you've
got one year. Now, it's impossible that I would assume
turned down a managerial baseball job. But let's be honest,

(54:28):
a one year contract to be the manager of a
major League baseball team isn't a contract. It's an audition.
It's well, come here and do what you do for
a year and we'll let you know. One year for him,
and three and a half three years at three and
a half million for Tony Vottello today in the move
that has Major League Baseball buzzing today. Oh, before I

(54:50):
run out of time, my last one from the archives tonight.
This happened twenty five years ago today at Paul Brown Stadium,
Sunday afternoon, seventy three degrees at kickoff the Denver Broncos
and the Cincinnati Bengals. The call from Brad Johansson and

(55:13):
Dave Lapham. Remember this, they'll hand it.

Speaker 9 (55:20):
Back, breaks it off, thirty one man the beat step off.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
On RT Dylan. How about that he just broke his
own record. I'll tell you why we're not worthy. We're
not worthy. We're gonna fout a Corey Dyllan, Corey Dllon
put this football team on his back.

Speaker 14 (55:42):
Corey Dillon broke Walker Payton's all time NFL single season
rushing record, turning seventy eight yards Walker Payton's was two
nd seventy five. We have a new NFL rushing leader
single game. He did it as a rookie, breaking Jim
Brown's record. He does it now, breaking Walker Peyton's record.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Brown, Johanson and Dave Lapham on the call as Corey
Dillon goes for two seventy eight then an NFL record,
and Dave talked with Corey. I'm gonna say this was
probably back in COVID times. Dave asked Corey about that performance.

(56:21):
Listen to what Corey said. You averaged twelve point sixty
four yards per carry in that game.

Speaker 4 (56:28):
That is nuts' it's pray about it. That's kind of
that's kind of that's insane itself. And what I would
say to that is, I had I think I have
one one carry call back that I went for thirty
It could have very well been like three hundred yards,
to be honest with you, so and I think six

(56:49):
or eight was negative yards. So if you start putting
it together, that's like fifteen carries fourteen fifteen carries for
two hundred and seventy eight yards. That was our first
win of the year, and it was just one of
those situations where offensive line was doing a hell of
a job. Were just given everybody opportunities on the ground

(57:11):
to get something done. So we were getting it done
on the ground. And is the crazy thing about it
is they were stacking the box. We didn't pass the
ball that will that game right, and we was still
accomplished a win and a record in the same game.
You know, that's that's that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
Corey Dylon with Dave Lapham a few years ago on
an NFL record he had set. He had broken the
NFL rookie rushing record for a game, breaking Jim Brown's
record in this game twenty five years ago. Today broke
Walter Payton's all time single game record for rushing twenty
two carries, two and seventy eight yards. The Bengals enter

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that game, as Corey alluded to Owen six Denver entered
with the number one d in football, and to Corey's point,
on the runs this is this is one of the
two most incredible things about the performance. Corey carried it
twenty two times. Here are the results of each of
those carries, if you're ready. He gained zero twenty six

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thirty one yards, one yard, one yard lost, two yards lost,
a yard gained, twenty one stop for no gain, gain
four gain, thirty seven gained three a thirty yard run,

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a four yard run two yards, fourteen yards minus one, one,
sixty five yard run minus two, four yard run, and
forty one yard run all on the same day. He
had three negative runs. On the day. He had six

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runs where he gained between zero and two yards, but
he had runs of twenty one, twenty six, thirty, thirty one,
thirty seven, forty one, and sixty five. So in essence,
his seven biggest runs went for two hundred and fifty
one yards, seven for two fifty one. The other fifteen

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carries went for twenty seven yards. Go figure that one
twenty five years ago today and the second most fascinating
point of that performance by Corey Dillon twenty five years
ago today. He mentioned the passing. He said, we didn't
throw the ball that much that day. You ready two
for fourteen passing for thirty four yards for the game.

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Achille two for nine thirty four yards. Scott Mitchell zero
for five not complete a pass in an NFL game,
The Bengals completed two passes in fourteen attempts for thirty
four yards and won the game by ten thirty one

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twenty one. The final score unbelievable. Won the time of
possession that afternoon like thirty seven and a half to
twenty two and a half, and rushed for I believe
four hundred and seven total on the day thirty one
twenty one. The final score all right, Well, Head down

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six minutes away from the season debut of the West
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Bearcats basketball. Let's we have saved the Bengals. To the
final segment of our second and final hour tonight, Let's
do our Postman Law Injury report delivered by Postman Law

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Injured Postman delivers will Go. Trey Hendrickson return to practice
today after missing Thursday night's game with a hip issue.
He was limited, but he did go and Tanner Hudson
out of concussion protocol and missed the last game because
of that concussion. He went today but was limited. We

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will monitor the rest. I think Charlie Jones was limited
when else today. Cam Sample did not practice today with
a knee issue. Knee wrapped up. That is today's Postman
Law Injury report delivered by Postman Law Injured Call eight
four or four Postman. Bengals need Trey Hendrickson back on Sunday.

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They need some pass rush in some way, shape or form.
We'll talk with Trags tomorrow night. Roundtable show from Long
Necks in Richwood. I'm with Rocky Trags joins us Mike
Petrally from c l NS since he with a y
dot com every week. At six twenty, he talked with
the Shamar today, who said of his performance on Thursday night,

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there wasn't much to like. Yeah, that'd be one way
of putting it. I forget the number of snaps he
had he did not show up on the stat sheet,
and there were a whole lot of three Mississippi four
Mississippi towards a five Mississippi four dropbacks for Aaron Rodgers
on Thursday night, including one I think it was officially

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eight point nine seconds. He had to roam around in
the pocket before delivering his pass. They they have trouble
with Trey generating pass rush. They need more than just Trey.
They need Shamar Stewart, they need Joseph Osai, they need
Miles Murphy, and they need it come Sunday. I know,
Sunday on paper oh and seven. And we'll talk about

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this with Rocky tomorrow night. I know that seems easy,
lay up like onto the next one. There is always
something very dangerous about an O N fill in the
blank team like that with you know that can roll
the dice. And I think Zach the talking points were
very clear today. This is one of those focus and

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maturity games. Everybody feels good. Talked about it with Charlie
early in the show. Everybody feels good about what is
transpired with Joe Flacco. There's some added juice. They have
saved their season, at least for the moment. They're now
pondering the possibilities, and it's very easy to look and say, wow,
Steelers at home, Jets at home, Bears at home, win

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all three of those. Suddenly you're five and four. You
hit the buye, and you've got real momentum in a
division that is in play and in the AFC, which
is in play. As Zach kind of alluded to today,
tap the brakes a little bit is not about a
three game run. It's not about the buy It's not

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about the Bears next week. By the way, Bears have
won four straight, tied for the longest winning streak in
the NFL. It's about the j e Ts, Jets, Jets Jets.
I don't know how close they can come to replicating
the run game they uncovered dialed up on Thursday night.
I don't think anybody believes, as I said with Charlie,

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they're gonna be able to rush for six point two
yards per carry. But something in the four four four,
four and a half range with look awfully nice in
this offense, the way it's clicking with Joe Flacco throwing
the football, Zach said today, when I ask about the success,
it ties back to playing with the lead. I get
playing with the I think everybody understands how playing with

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the lead makes it easier to run the football. My
pushback on that would be being down by a score
or down, for example, fourteen to three at the half
like a couple of weeks ago. There's no justification for
throwing it twenty three times to running it seven times
in a game that's fourteen to three at the half.
Too easily. This team abandons the run. I get with

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the lead, Hey opens up the playbook. Let's go. We
can do a lot of things off the off the run.
Just don't let it get away from you to the
point that Joe Flacco has to throw as much as
he has the last two games. I love the results
in the second game, but there's nothing wrong with twenty

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three to twenty four to twenty five carries if you
are being effective on the ground. What will be interesting
this Jets team's defense. If you look on paper, they're
giving up twenty six points a game, seventh worst in
the league. They give up I think of their first
four games they give it up for thirty points. But
look in their last two games, gave up thirteen and thirteen.

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Now they don't put much pressure on the quarterback. They
don't give them any I think they only have ten sacks,
They've only forced one turnover. I think they're minus nine
on the season in turnover differential. But they're playing better
of late under the new defense cornor Steve Wilkson in
that defense. Keep an ear out tomorrow and this will
be of significance when the injury comes out and injury

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report comes out tomorrow. There are two significant Jets who
did not practice today. One Sauce Gardner, premier cover guy,
former UC Bearcat, did not practice concussion protocol. And Garrett Wilson,
former Ohio State Buckeye, their leading wide receiver big play guy,
missed the last game, first game he's missed in his

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young NFL career with a knee issue. Did not practice today.
We will monitor and discuss tomorrow night cast of Regulars.
Tomorrow night me Rock three hours, Trags at six point twenty,
Chad Brendle talks Bearcats at seven h six, Greg Shoemaker
O Sir. Four high school football games we'll get into,

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and Dan Klaskins has your fantasy football fix. All of
that Tomorrow night in three action packed hours. Man, I
could have used that third hour tonight. I've got more
to get to. I'm out of time. Let's check news
and then it's UC basketball with the West Miller Show.
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