10-28-25 R+L Carriers Sports Talk with Lance McAlister

Lance talks with FC CIncinnati play-by-play man Tommy Gelehrter about the club's 1-0 playoff win over Columbus, reacts to the Bengals' shocking loss to the Jets, and more.

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
The following takes place between six pm and seven pm.
You want answers. I think I'm entitled. You want answer
the truth. You can't handle the truth, truth, the truth.
All right, here we go six oh seven, seven hundred

(00:32):
WLW Welcome in RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey
Chevrolet Am Lance Pacalister. Hope you had a decent day.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Man.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
We've got things to get to over the course of
the next two hours. Tonight, I see a guest, I
see topics, I see conversation with you. I also see
headlines in front of me. Let's get to them so
we can go. Bengals players off today while coaches work
on the game plan for Sunday's matchup versus the Bears
at pay Corps Stadium. They place the linebacker Shaka Heyward
in center Lee on the reserve injured list. Today they

(01:03):
released Mike defensive tackle Mike Pennell. He played in eight
games for the Bengals this season. We'll talk Bengals coming
up at six thirty five. I'll try to explain how
I think the Bengals changed me. On Sunday, the twenty
first ranked UC Bearcats head to Salt Lake City to
take on number twenty four UTAs Saturday Night Cats have
won seventh straight remained tied with BYU for first place

(01:26):
in the Big Twelve. They are talking Bearcats after us Tonight.
It's the Scott Saderfield Show at eight o'clock from the
original Montgomery in and Twin Peak Junior Today name one
of fifteen semi finalists for the Jim Thorpe Award, presented
to the best defensive back in college football. Congratulations, what
a story his career has been. Baseball instant classic last night,

(01:48):
Game three of the World Series. Freddie Freeman's eighteenth inning
homer ended a nearly seven hour marathon and gave the
Dodgers a two to one lead in the series. The
game ended around three am hour time. After reaching base
nine times last night, homering twice, collecting four extra base hits,
and walking five times. Show Heyotani takes the mound tonight
as the starter for Game four. We'll talk about that

(02:11):
later on. In the seven o'clock hour. Soccer FC Cincinnati
get a goal from Kevin Denke in the seventy eighth
minute to beat Columbus one mill last night. Game one
of the best of three mls playoff series at TQL.
The Orange and Blue try for the series wrap up
Sunday night in Columbus. The voice of the Orange and Blue,
Tommy g joins me in about ten minutes from MERK.

(02:34):
Goalkeeper Roman Celentano today won the MLS Save of the
Year Award, presented. It is for his incredible three save
sequence boom boom, boom during FC Cincinnati's game against Nashville
SC on March twenty ninth. You'd have to see it
to truly believe it and appreciate it. Hockey Blue Jackets
skate at Buffalo six forty five Drop of the puck

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versus the Sabers. College basketball make no programming note. Tomorrow night,
Xavier coach Richard Patino will join me at six point
twenty here on Sports Talk and last, but certainly not least,
I would classified as the most important thing today. Sending
thoughts and prayers to the legendary Hall of Fame writer
Hal McCoy. He suffered a mini stroke yesterday and was hospitalized.

(03:20):
He said, other than the thirty second episode, he feels great.
Told me he was hoping to go home this afternoon.
I've not seen an update on that, but we're certainly
thinking about you. How thoughts and prayers for everything else
you've missed, And if you ever missed the show, remember
there's ways to listen back on your time to last
night's Bengals line, the Thursday night Roundtable show, sports talk,

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individual interviews. If you missed Chris Albright last week, the
general manager of FC Cincinnati, catch him in the podcast
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every minute counts, you can count on Mom. All right
ahead tonight I see on the docket between now and
the Scott Saderfield Show, FC Cincinnati conversation with Tommy g
coming up at six twenty six thirty five something changed
in my relationship with the Bengals. On Sunday seven o'clock hour,

(04:25):
we'll get into last night's extra inning affair and instant
classic in Major League Baseball. I wonder how many you
know for as much criticism as the baseball extra innings
rule and way of play is criticized, I wonder how
many people stayed up for all six hours and thirty
nine minutes at eighteen innings to watch the postseason version

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of extra innings play out. We'll get into that so
much to get to what do you say? We get
to Tommy g and talk about last night at TQL
in front of twenty three thousand plus. That on the
docket first, as we continue with RNL Carrier Sports Talk
presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WLW.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
There it is hey full time whistle, Hey win against
their arrival. That's Cincinnati take a one game advantage here.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
In the first round of the MLS Cup playoffs.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
They are dancing in the bailey.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Tonight here in the Queen City, go baby sounds of
victory before twenty three thousand and three seventy one. Last night,
FC Cincinnati defeated the Columbus Crew one nill in the
MLS Cup playoff, the opener of the series, best of
three at TQL Stadium. The breakthrough goal in the seventy
eighth minute from Kevin Denke sent the Orange and Blue

(05:44):
ahead and on to victory. The Orange and Blue now
head to Columbus on Sunday. One went away from advancing
to the Eastern Conference semifinals. For more on that, let's
go straight to the source. You just heard his voice.
Now let's hear more from the voice of FC Cincinnati.
That would be the man they called tell me your letter, Tommy.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
How are you, Lance?

Speaker 3 (06:04):
I'm doing great. I got some chicken on the grid tonight. Yes,
Sincinnati won last night. I mean the weather's still holding
out pretty nice.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Life is good, my friend, no doubt. And it seems
only fitting that a guy who delivered game winning goals
throughout this season delivered a mighty big one last night.

Speaker 5 (06:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
I mean you could see kind of the hunger in
the way that he was playing.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Throughout the match.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Kevin made it a comment I think it was late
in the first half about how impressed he was the
way that Kevin was holding up the ball in the attack,
and you know, he was getting the ball with his
back to the goal and doing a good job and
letting the rest of the attack try to do their job.
And you know they hadn't seen the result on it,
but there were positives there.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
And it was look, the first playoff.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Game for Kevin Denke in his MLS career, and you
could tell that he wanted it, and man, he scored
a bunch of game winning goals during the regular season,
and he missed one. If you remember, early in the
second half, there was that ball across that kind of
just timed poorly and got too late actually and missed
on it, and it should have been a tapping and
and a lead earlier in the half. And instead he

(07:11):
gets that one a bit later in the half and
really set that place on fire.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
It was.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
It was fun to watch and uh yeah, a very
worthy game winner for number nine.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Over the years, the crew has had a pretty annoying
habit of finding ways to get back in and make
the comebacks. But the D, the Orange of Blue d
locked them down last night.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah, I think annoying thing is a is a really
good way to put it, you know it. I often
feel like, listen, if I'm calling the game, the people
who are tuning in, they don't want to hear about
the history. But it's also my job to explain the history.
Right the Eastern Conference final two nail lead evaporated. There
was a lot of two nail leads, yes, that had
evaporated as recently as July, So listen, there that wasn't

(07:57):
gonna happen last night, and and but ill in the
back of everybody's heads, they're a little bit concerned about it,
and rightfully so, because Columbus had had a pretty good
record in six previous games in Tikios Stadium. They only
lost once, three draws and two wins, So you know,
when you factor all that in, you're like, all right,
the defense often sets the tone for this team, and

(08:18):
I thought they did last night.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
The back line was very, very good.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Romancel On Tino gets his fifth clean sheet in ten
career playoff games.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Think about that, every.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Other game in his playoff career, and it's young, only
four years in. He's had ten games, but every other
game he's had a clean sheet basically. So you know,
if you're f C Cincinnati had to be really happy
with what they did defensively, and I think it's important
to remember that they did it. No Matt Miosga, No
Lucas Engel, who's been playing at left wing back and

(08:48):
at left center back, so he's an important part of
the defensive unit. And no Luca Orsano, who generally plays
at left wing back.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
So you know, three guys.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Who really could have been starters in this match were
not available for pat noon, and I know Luca was
on the bench, but he did not feature. So I
think all things considered, it was the effort that everybody,
as they watched the film today should feel.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Pretty good about Alvis Palell big sub in the seventieth minute,
and you just referenced the moving parts and injuries. And
I talked with Chris Albright on the show last week
about how the depth assembled has certainly continued to pay
off for this club.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yeah, it has, and that's his job, right and that's
what he's been working so hard on is figuring out
all of the right pieces for this f C Cincinnati team.
And I think he knew, you know, going into the
summer window that there were some holes and some places
where seasons had needed some more depth. Now, Alvis wasn't
one of the guys who came on, but Alvis is

(09:46):
the guy that he brought back in twenty twenty two
after I was left in twenty nineteen, you know, not
on good terms obviously with a different you know, different
group running the club at the moment. But when Alvis
left and then when I was you know, tipped off
that he was coming back. I remember my reaction, I went,
what why like the way he left? What what are
these new guys doing?

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Well?

Speaker 3 (10:07):
Man shows why they're in their seats and I'm in
mine up in the booth. Lance, But you know, the
depth has been great, and listen, I give all the credit.
I think I put it out on my social media
today like the Alvis pile to be able to come in,
and I had talked to Omar Cummings earlier in the
day also from Jamaica with what's going on there today
with the hurricane and to have the focus, and I

(10:28):
think Caleb no from Channel nine did a good job
of telling a story last night. But listen, like to
come in and know that your family is all back
in Jamaica and facing one of the most catastrophic storms
that country has ever seen, if not the most catastrophic
storm you know they've ever seen, and to come in
and have your focus on the match for fifteen to
twenty minutes and help your team win. Man, big, big

(10:51):
love for Jamaica and Alvis Pyle.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
At this moment, you mentioned Roman Cellentitle. That was his
second match back from that quad injury he suffered in
US national camp. No ill effects continue to show up,
and he was certainly on it last night.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Yeah, he looked he looked great, didn't he. You know,
he's been he just continues to be great in his
fourth year. You know, we talked about it during the
pregame show last night because they honored Alec Cann before
the match, and Alck was brought in to be the
starter for FC Cincinnati. This was his big opportunity coming
to Cincinnati. You know, they had had some goalkeeping issues.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Alex was going to stabilize.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
All that, and to be fair, he did through seven
matches and then he was warming up to be the
backup for a US Open Cup game back in what
it was that April of twenty twenty two. He had
just had a clean sheet against Atlanta and he got
hurt warming up, and so Pat had a decision to
make for the next game. Are you going to go

(11:45):
with you know, Kenneth Romiere, who was in the mix of.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
The second stringer.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
You can go to your third string guy, Roman selling
Ton will give him a chance against LAFC And he
went with Roman and Roman was so good and Alec
had a little bit of a setback.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Was unlucky that by.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
The time that Roman came back or I mean by
the time Alic was healthy, there's no way you could
see Roman. Yeah, and that's nothing you know to say
about ale it can but Roman was that good and
he never looked back at four years later, he's the
guy who has five playoff shutouts and you know, ten starts.
So yeah, I think Roman, you know, just just keeps
getting better and better and you kind of forget he's

(12:21):
still young, you know, as far as goalkeepers are considered
in this league. But yet I'd still refer to him
as a veteran goalkeeper.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
We heard the roar of the crowd on that highlight.
I bumped in with, how about the energy of twenty
three thousand plus last night? Yeah, it was pretty fun. Lance.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
You know, it's just listen, all the games at Tiko
Stadium are fun because our fans here in the city
are unbelievable. But that Playoff energy, and then you bring
in Columbus on top of it.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
You didn't crank it up one NOx. It was like
six or seven notches.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
I would say, as far as the energy was turned
up last night, But no, I think listen, these fans
are so important to the players. They feel that energy
that place erupted when when the goal was scored. And listen,
we're going to continue to need it right, whether you
know there's a game three or the next game is
not for a couple of weeks at home. I know
a lot of people, my families making them drive up

(13:14):
north one hundred miles, will be there on Sunday at
six thirty for game two. And the players appreciate, the
coaches appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Everybody Evoll does. And man, it sure makes those highlights
sound sweet, doesn't it. Man it absolutely does. Look ahead,
give me a thought on Sunday, a chance to close
it out in their house would be sweet and beneficual. Yeah, yeah,
no doubt.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
I think you know you don't want to come home now.
You got to find a way to replicate the game plan,
as Pat Newton said, and get back to Cincinnati and then.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
You get some rest.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
You still, you know Mammy as it sounds like he's
going to be out for a bit, but then you
can start to get some guys healthy right and ready
for what would you know, potentially it's not guaranteed that
it's Miami, but we know that that's what's kind.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Of lurking there.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Right, and we could see Miami in that conference semi final.
But the good news is it will be here right
and then we'll see what happens if they win that
one and how it plays out. But I would say
for this Sunday, like now, Columbus is feeling the pressure
and they didn't score in the game, so they're gonna
have to try to find a way, you know, to
get better opportunities in front of the goal. And listen,

(14:18):
they're one of the best coach teams in the league.
Will for Nancy does a fantastic job. They'll tweak a
few things. They're not going to stray from the game plan.
I don't think they're gonna make any wholesale changes, But
I do think the pressure is on the crew on
Sunday night, and if every Sea thinks that even go
in with that same mentality and follow the game plan
like they did last night, then they should be able
to go get the win. They're the better team and

(14:40):
you know, come back, celebrate and enjoy a little bit
of time off before they continue that stretch of the
playoffs that hopefully goes all the way to the first
week of December.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Final thought, did I detect did I spy a double
high five between you and Kevin and the booth last night?

Speaker 6 (14:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (14:55):
You just caught that right as you came on the air.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Huh, yes, a double I mean, listen, come on, Kevin,
Danka scored that late in the match to win, you know,
potentially a score game winner against your arrival. I mean,
I just spelled like sometimes you gotta you gotta go first.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Kevin was happy that I didn't try to body check
him out of the book like a weeks ago, So
he was.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
He was very happy that that there was no charges
of assault or anything along those lines.

Speaker 7 (15:21):
For now.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
The devil high five. We'll see.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
We'll see where things land going forward, especially if the
one of Blues can get this win on Sunday, well
we'll take the booths Cam North for sure.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
I like that. I like that very much. Hey, I
appreciate you making time as always. Always enjoyed the conversation.
Thank you anytime. Lance, appreciate you all right, take care
there you go, Bye bye, Tommy g Voice of the
Orange and Blue one mill over the Columbus Crew last night.
Uh hang tight, let's get a check on news. Then
let's transition into some Bengals conversation and reflections of things

(15:53):
I discovered about myself in my relationship with the Bengals.
Ahead It's RNL Carrier Sports Talk, presented by Kelsey Sharp
of Relaying on seven hundred WLW.

Speaker 8 (16:08):
Is it true Tom Brenneman has not only seen the
Luckness Monster but beat it in chess. I'm not at
liberty to discuss, he said. True, there's a primitive Amazonian
tribe that worships the Fannipac Tom brennanman lost during a
South American vacation. Sounds possible, but not true. Is it
true that listening to Tom Brenneman makes your morning? You

(16:30):
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Speaker 1 (16:45):
News Mallula. So I try to provide reasoned, well thought out,
coherent thoughts on a nightly basis. Sometimes I do, maybe

(17:06):
sometimes I don't. Maybe I'm emotional. Sometimes I'm too emotional
and that gets me in trouble. But I am someone
who grew up in this town and had followed these
teams for my entire life, and I knew. I knew Sunday,
as the Jets were scoring twenty three in the fourth quarter,

(17:26):
I knew I was feeling something different, and I struggled
with how to say it. And that's why I just
started writing this morning, and I said, all right, let
me see how this looks like. Just go with the flow.
And then I thought, am I overreacting? Is this maybe
a long time coming? Maybe others will feel the same way.

(17:48):
Maybe they'll say it's about time. Maybe some will say duh,
Maybe some will say welcome to my world. I don't know.
I just as best I could. I put well not
into paper. I put fingers to keyboard and I just
started typing. And I think I've done is as good
a job as I can articulating what I have felt

(18:11):
and the change that I felt. And I ended on
that line for a reason. Maybe in the end, I'm
just tired of putting in more than I'm getting out
of this. That doesn't mean I'm I'm done moving on
picking another team that's never gonna happen. But I almost
as I was writing, I laughed. I laughed out loud

(18:32):
because I had the thought of Sam Wish pop into
my head. You know, there's golf a Dennis to be played,
and I said, maybe maybe it just won't Maybe I
just won't let it mean as much anymore, because honestly,
after Sunday ended the time from Sunday through the rest
of the evening, as I described it as cuss out

(18:54):
loud angry. That that was me. And I don't like
being that way, and I don't think I'm gonna be
that way more. We'll see. Let's go to the phones
five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, one, eight hundred,
the Big One. We begin in Florence, Kentucky. Hey Steve,
welcome to Sports Talk.

Speaker 6 (19:13):
Good evening.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
How are you well. How about you?

Speaker 6 (19:16):
I'm doing great, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Hey.

Speaker 9 (19:18):
Man.

Speaker 6 (19:19):
I you know, I love the Angles and I love
the Rents, but man, it is getting so hard to
emotionally invest myself.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
In either one of these teams.

Speaker 6 (19:30):
It's just every year it's the same song and dance,
you know, and this is going to be different. That's
going to be different. You know, we get these new
players in the draft, or these guys are coming up
from the farm system or or whatever, you know, and
it's just every at the end of the year, we're
just like, yeah, it's usually usually by June we're ready

(19:53):
for football season to start because the Reds have already
been mathematically eliminated, and by by you know, yeah, November,
you're already like, well, you know it's from you know,
Red Spec will be here soon.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
You know.

Speaker 6 (20:06):
It's like I wish, yeah, I'm not gonna stop.

Speaker 9 (20:12):
You know.

Speaker 6 (20:13):
It's not that I need to watch him. But the
only difference is I'm not going to plan my I'm
not going to plan my Sunday around the scene anymore.
And I'm starting to get kind of apathetics, which is
not good. It's the point where, you know, if I
have a choice between you know, watching the Bengals or

(20:33):
you know, going to a movie, or sometime I might
just go to a movie.

Speaker 10 (20:38):
You know.

Speaker 6 (20:38):
It's just I hate to sound that way, but goin
to start it. You know, it's just it's so I
feel it.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
I heard your voice. I know where you're coming from.

Speaker 6 (20:49):
Man, it's so hard to be a Cincinnati sports it
really is.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
It really is.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Steve, Thank you for listening and thanks for calling. All
right to take care, you know, leave at the Chad
Brendel to offer me perspective and context to this. He
sent me a text earlier today and he said, you
need to watch the Bengals as if you were watching
instead of watching the Bengals like a TV drama that

(21:14):
continues one week to the next and adds on to
the storyline and builds up to a season ending cliffhanger.
He says, you need to watch the Bengals like a sitcom,
and not from a you know, comedy make fun of
him standpoint, but from the standpoint of a sitcom is
nicely packaged and presented in thirty minutes, and at the
end of thirty minutes, it's done, and you just go

(21:35):
on about your life and then maybe you wonder back
to it the following week or so. But there's nothing
in most cases that follows from one week to the next.
It's just thirty minutes of something to pay attention to.
And it's not the TV drama that, well, I got
to watch this week and what happened last week? Okay,
now this week, and now what's going to be the

(21:55):
next twist in the pot? And I thought, you know what,
I never thought of it that way. Maybe I need
to look at it in like thirty minute television sitcom
increments of just do it it ends, and you go
on about everything else. I'm going on. I'm back to
the phones. How about Mount Washington, Hey, Dave, welcome to
seven hundred WLW.

Speaker 11 (22:16):
Last the last caller said the big A word that
the Bengal uh, the Bengal brass do not want to hear.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
And I'm getting there. As a season ticket holder, you
know the A word that would be apathy.

Speaker 11 (22:29):
Damn right, I had this week, all season ticket holders
had the decision, the big one to make. My season
tickets went up four hundred dollars, from six thousand to
sixty four hundred dollars. Now, let me tell you this, Lance,
you naded on the head. What are we getting back
in return? Every financial advisor say you are the dumbest
SOB in the world to pay sixty four hundred dollars

(22:51):
and get nothing in return.

Speaker 6 (22:53):
I'm looking for an emotional high that I'm not getting.

Speaker 11 (22:57):
That's not worth sixty four hundred dollars, is it.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
That's for each and every individual to determine.

Speaker 6 (23:04):
Well, I think you already know the answer to that.

Speaker 11 (23:09):
I mean, Lance, that's twenty grand, twenty four thousand, dollars
in five years.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
I mean, what are we doing?

Speaker 4 (23:17):
I mean, the A word is really creeping in.

Speaker 11 (23:20):
I'd rather be I think I might play Paul Doherty
and Ray Leaves this weekend, you know, I mean, come on,
really getting that?

Speaker 1 (23:29):
I mean, why bother?

Speaker 11 (23:30):
At this point, it's almost to the point like do
I really want to go to the game this weekend?

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Why?

Speaker 6 (23:37):
I've seen Titanic.

Speaker 7 (23:38):
I know what's going on, right, I mean, come on.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Man, help us out, bro. I got you, Thank you, Dave.
I was reading the Athletic yesterday and they named the
saddest fan bases in the NFL the five saddest fan
bases in the NFL, and number five on their list
was the Bengals and they rode Cincinnati, scored third eight
points with dude quarterback Joe Burrow, and still lost to
the Jets. And they wrote, between Joe Burrow's consistent injury

(24:06):
luck and the overall roster construction, I'm not sure how
Bengals fans do it. That's from the Athletic this weekend. Dayton,
Hey Jeff, talk to me.

Speaker 7 (24:16):
Hey Lance, I agree with your opening there, and also
agree with your friend who compared to Sitcom you know.
I mean, I've grown up in Dayton's and I'm fifty eight,
so the Bengals and Reds will always be my team.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
But you know, yeah, watching them you can't help.

Speaker 7 (24:33):
But like the Bengals are going to be whatever they are,
you know, they don't seem to respond to any sort
of input, you know, And I just watch it from
one week to the next and see where we land.
But I'll tell you what my solution has been this
week is watching.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
The World Series and drama. Man, man, oh yeah, you
want drama.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
Eighteen eighteen innings last night.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
You know, that was an amazing game.

Speaker 7 (25:00):
And I didn't think once about the Bengals while watching it.
The only thing I was thinking is go Blue Jays
beat the Dodgers who took out the Red right right right?

Speaker 9 (25:09):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (25:10):
You know, so that's what I would encourage people to do.
There's still at least two more great games left.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
To come, no doubt, and hopefully four more you know, yes,
Game seven will because take it if you want to, Yeah,
go watch it. It's been an amazing series. Sounds I
play my suggestion. Thank you, Jeff, enjoy your evening. Yeah,
I uh oh man that uh I'm watching highlights of
it in this studio now absolutely incredible. I was reading

(25:35):
on the Inquirer since a dot com today online. I
noticed the headline until the Bengals hire true football people,
the losing will continue was a letter to the editor
of someone who used to work for the Bengals and
is a current season ticket order. Until headline until the
Bengals hire true football people, the losing will continue. There
is a uh, there's just a vibe, a bad vibe

(25:58):
mojo right now. They just for whatever reason, and maybe
it's maybe it was just a combination of things. Home
game zero and seven, and I think, I think for
me because I allowed myself to lay out the plan
and think, man beat the Steelers, beat the Jets, beat
the Bears, three straight home games, hit the buy at

(26:20):
five and four, cooking with Joe Flacco, Joe Burrows on
the sidelines out of his walking boot mid December is
the target, Oh baby? And then the Jets score twenty
three in the in the third quarter. As I said,
I it was cuss out loud. I anger at that point,
and I spent the rest of the night walking around
the house and Kelly's like, what what is wrong with you?

(26:41):
I said, I shouldn't feel this way. I shouldn't. I really,
I should be better than this than feel that allow
the results of a football game to make me feel
this way. And so I think I've decided. I'm just
I won't feel that way. I'll watch, i'll listen, I'll follow,
I'll talk. I just won't feel that way. We'll see

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how that goes. It's RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by
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(27:56):
Scott Sadderfield Show. Want to grab some more calls here
as well in this hour, I want to get into
the world series. If you could allow me a minute
or so to say thank you. I wanted to thank
everyone at the Joe Knuxall Miracle League fields for an
Unforgettable evening Friday Night's Miracle Ball at the Oscar Events
Center in Fairfield. It's their yearly blowout event fundraiser. I

(28:20):
was honored as the recipient of their Nutsall Humanitarian Award,
joining a group that includes Sparky Anderson, Marty Brenneman, Sean Casey,
Anthony Munoz, Bob Herzog, Teddy Kramer, Sheila Gray, Charlie Frank,
Larry Tishler, and the family of Lance Corporal Taylor Prazinski.
You talk about one of these things is not like

(28:43):
the other. That would be me. I can't do justice
to what that night meant to me and to my family.
I tried my best to make Nutsy proud with my
speech Friday night. Among my many flaws and weaknesses is
public speaking. The moment of the night was Casey and
Peyton surprising me by going up on the stage and

(29:04):
speaking together. The sense of pride and the tears shed
at that moment unbelievable. Marty spoke. Sean Casey and his
wife Sarah drove in from Pittsburgh and he spoke. I
met so many kind people on Friday night, the time
and effort put into the night by the likes of

(29:25):
Tyler Bradshaw and Kim and Bonnie Nucksall and Chad Cadell
and Ron Reedy and Larry Tishler and so many people
who I shouldn't start naming without naming all, even my
wife's contributions to it. Their attention to detail, and the
little things that made that night incredible are still hard

(29:45):
to process. The placards held up by four hundred and
forty people in attendance as I walked into the ballroom
noting my random thoughts, the mugs at each table, the
giveaway glasses, the mugs referencing our brewery tours, a framed
print from the legendary illustrator C. F. Pain, The Nutsie Award,

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which is like heavy and big, like so incredibly cool.
It was magical Friday night. It was four hours in
a room filled with joy and happiness and kindness. And
I don't bring this up to talk about me, only
from this standpoint to try to express how much the
night meant to me and to my family. The most

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important part of Friday Night was putting the spotlight on
the incredible work being done and the impact of the
Nuxhall Miracle League Fields and to fundraise. Friday Night, the
live auction with Tyler and Bob Herzogen and Brent Souter
is always a mussy raised thousands of dollars, so many
cool items. There was a one hundred thousand dollars donation

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from Phil Nuxhall, Joe's other son. There was a one
thousand dollars matching donation by Walt Lunsford and the foundation
that sponsors the event. Last month, their Evening of Hope
earlier in the month incredibly raised over eight hundred thousand dollars,
all in an effort to build the Hope Center, which

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is a twelve million dollar dream of the old left hand,
a thirty one thousand square foot indoor facility to give
special needs athletes young to old sense of belonging in
a year round place, brand new recreational experiences, and improving
the physical and emotional health of all involved. I've been

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around it, I feel it. I can tell you it's
powerful and Friday night, the electricity was surging on a
powerful night. And again, thank you guys who were a
part of it. I walked out of there. I walked

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up on the stage with one goal and that was
to make Joe Nuxall proud, and I hope I did that.
I just know, walking off the stage and going home,
it was one of the best moments of my life
with my family. I think it would be the best
moment of my life with life other than marriage and
their birth. That's how big a night it was. And

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thank you doesn't seem like enough, but I'll say it
to everybody involved with the Nuxhall Miracle. League fields. Unbelievable evening,
absolutely unbelievable evening. All right, let's get into this. As
I said at six point thirty five, and I'm still
not sure. I think I found the right words to
articulate this boy. For someone who does radio, I should

(32:43):
struggle to say things sometimes. But Sunday's loss did something
to me, and it made me wonder if I'm doing
this wrong. And when they lost, something changed with me
because I walked around the rest of the night just
in a really foul mood over a football game, and

(33:11):
I I just it made me wonder, really for the
first time, if it's worth getting upset anymore. I've been
a Bengals fan my entire life. I'll be a Bengals
fan the rest of my life. I will. I will
watch them, I'll follow them, I'll talk about them. I've
got Bengals line every Monday, I've got the Roundtable show

(33:31):
every Thursday. I take calls during the week. But the
thought occurred to me from that emotional standpoint, am I'm
just tired of putting in more than I'm getting out
from all of this. And that's where you come in
as a fan. And we'll see how much of a

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connection there is on that front. At five three, seven, four, nine, seven, one,
eight hundred, the big one. How about Middletown, we go, Oh, hey, Terry.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
What do you know? Hey, Lace, Hey, I really appreciate
you sharing from what happened. I mean, you're such a
I mean, I know you're going to play yourself as
you know, I'm not worthy. But you have a coaching tree.
But you have a tree with you being the strong

(34:21):
base of it, your children out there being main branches,
and your wife and all of those little branches out
there on the outside. So you have a lot more.

Speaker 9 (34:29):
Effect than you're going to admit or you would know.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
So thanks for sharing. And that's my opinion about that.
I'm a sixty three year old life long veins and
retrans just like the common thing tonight. But it just
it hit me on Sunday afternoon that well, let me
give you a question, what is more painful watching the

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Cincinnati defense not being able to stop or compare it
to multiple multiple reds games where we're one and two hit.
There's no there's no you know, imagination as far as
just trying to accept the swinging for the fences. I
have that same feeling that Sunday afternoon that you know,

(35:17):
I'm going to sit here, you know, for the fourth
through the ninth inning and they might get one hit
and that's it. I'm going to sit here from you know,
two o'clock to four o'clock and the team is just
not going to be able to stop these guys no
matter what color they're in. And I just had that
same feeling and it just it just stop. Yeah, it

(35:38):
really did.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
I reached you know, it's funny you say, because I
reached the point midway through the fourth quarter, and I'm
thinking the Bengals need to score every time because I
have no reasonable reasonable belief the Bengals are ever going
to stop the Jets the rest of this game. And
they didn't they even up scores on what the final
four possessions of the game.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
I mean, they just stopped scoring in the old I
was like, this has to be a you know, a
forty nine forty two game.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
But they didn't.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
They didn't score the rest of the game. But it's
just I'm older, but I did. I love baseball so much.
I did stay up and watch the entire game up
to two fifty three, and I was even posting, you know,
stuff on there and people are like, I'm believable. I
was getting stuff on the West Coast and so, but

(36:25):
intimation like everybody else, man, I'm always going to be
a fan. I'm always going to be a Reds fan.
I'm always going to They're my team. Like I said,
born in Butler County or Steve Butler County, They're my team.
If they want to slice my guts out, you know,
I'm pretty much used to it. And but I just
I love the comments of everybody because I feel like

(36:47):
I have brethren. Yes that's right, age group and so.
And one last point, go midt.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Et absolutely that. Hey, Terry, thanks buddy. Thanks, Lam's good
good talking. You appreciate the kind words. Take a time out,
of continue. Let's grab some more calls. Let's roll with
this a little bit longer. I want to splash in
some World Series conversation as well. RNL Carrier Sports Talk
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(37:15):
up eight o'clock Scott Saderfield Show, talking Bearcats, the seventeenth
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thinking about it. Let's do our Postman Law Injury Report
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knee injury, both placed on the reserve injured list. That's
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Call eight four to four. Postman Back to the phones,
we go, Montgomery. What do you say?

Speaker 2 (37:49):
Mark?

Speaker 3 (37:50):
Hey?

Speaker 6 (37:51):
Lance?

Speaker 1 (37:51):
How are you tonight?

Speaker 6 (37:52):
Like you have a Nick draws sentence from the Bengal.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
I'm dealing with something, you know.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
I mean, I don't know that.

Speaker 10 (38:02):
I'm really surprised what we've seen here. I mean, this
team had all kinds of problems the last couple of
years on defense, and when you go when you let
your defensive coordinator go, fire your defensive coordinator and then
you're always assistant coaches. I mean, that's a rebuild at
that point. And that's exactly what we're seeing here is
a rebuild. And we all know about rebuilds here and how.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Ugly they are.

Speaker 10 (38:26):
And I think the idea that a new defensive coordinator
is going to come in here and sprinkle some magic
dust on the talent that they had and was going
to get turned around was unrealistic thinking, you know, we
wanted to think that, but that's not going to happen.
This team has way too many shortcomings. And the question

(38:47):
I have here one are the Bengals ever going to
operate this franchise and start trying to scout better like
everybody else does in the National Football League, Because if
you don't scout well, you don't draft well. And when
you don't well, you have players that aren't gonna play well.
And you're really not helping your coaching staff and giving
them the best talent out there by being.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Or in that area. And if you're not gonna be
this is what I've never understood. If you're not going
to be a big player in free agency outside free agents,
then I would think you would want to invest as
much and even more in scouting so you could nail
the draft and not waste money on draft picks and
not miss on the value of your draft picks.

Speaker 10 (39:31):
I've never seen two franchises in one town that basically
do as little as possible to set their coach up
for success and just give a lot of lip service
to the fans on what they're doing and do nothing.
I mean, it's it's really a sad situation, quite frankly,
and I don't know. Maybe Mike Brown, he might think

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he is doing the right thing and doing a good job.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (39:55):
You could be that tone deaf and look at what
you see.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
I'll leave you with this.

Speaker 10 (40:00):
No team in the NFL probably has spent and wasted
more money on offense and defensive lineman over the last
thirty years. They spent enough money in those areas they
could fund a luxury hotel in downtown Cincinnati with the
money they've wasted on wineman. You would think I would
do something different and quit throwing good money away after

(40:23):
bad A men to that Thanks, Mark, You're welcome.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
You know, in the piggyback off that point. I cringe
every time someone says, you know, you gotta fire this
coach or that coach, or get rid of David Bell,
bring in another hitting coach, get rid of the offensive coordinator,
get rid of the defensive coordinator, get rid of it.
And I cringe every time because it lets teams off
the hook. The need is for better talent. It's not

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for the fifth different hitting coach in the last ten years.
For the Reds. It's adding better talent. It's not getting
rid of the defensive coordinator in lou Anarumo. It's adding
more and better talent We've seen, I mean, the examples
just keep playing out before our eyes. So that's why
I cringe every time. Don't let them off the hook

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by being distracted by the shiny object of firing somebody.
It should be about adding to the talent level on
the teams. There was a slight ray rise in my
blood pressure there. I gotta remember my my conclusion drawn.

(41:33):
I don't know if I'm gonna be able to do this,
but Tavia, we go, Alan, welcome to sports Talk.

Speaker 9 (41:38):
Hey, how you doing Lance.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
I'm Okay, how about you pretty good?

Speaker 12 (41:43):
So two years ago, I'm getting a little older and
buy jerseys, but I still get him eried. Once from
outside decided to get a number sixty two orange jersey
with Dave Lapham's name on the back. Because Dave represents
someone consistent in the Bengals order innovation. We like hearing him,
we like how he does games. He's a positive guy

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and joy listened to on the radio.

Speaker 5 (42:07):
So I drove down.

Speaker 12 (42:09):
I actually live in Michigan, but I drove down to
Cincinnati the other day to go see my Dave Lapham.
Ring upon a recipient was enjoined the football game, all
the attention with my Dave Lapham Diurney and they lost.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Uh yeah, what a capper to a day of great festivities.

Speaker 12 (42:31):
That's all I got for you, Lance, That's.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
All I need. Thank you. Yeah. And you know, in
some like weird, weird way, with all that Dave has
seen over the years, and a lot of it in
some cases decades, great difficulty, there's almost like this odd

(42:54):
like it's only fitting that a day of great festivities
and recognition and honor include a reminder of how things
can be at times, if that makes any sense. It's
like of all days. And Dave even mentioned it in
the pregame with Dan what a great day and in

(43:16):
kind of paraphrasing, just hope it doesn't end in a
loss to an oh and seventeen kind of joking and
I'll be danged Fairborne we go. Hey, Paul, welcome to
Sports Talk. Thank you, Lance.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
I've got two things, but before I do, I might
like to ask you, based on what you just recently said,
do you think Dave Shula should not have been fired.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Them Dave shul I. I wasn't here during the Shula era,
but I get the impression that David, yeah, he was.
He was in over his head.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
Okay, well maybe Zach Taylor is to an extent.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
But anyway, but Paul, you but I think you opened
the door to part of the problem. There's too much
made of coaches being issues here, not enough pressure put
on organizations to increase talent. That that's my point. There's
crely Yeah, there's certainly individual instances where coaches got to go,
But the bigger picture is that city accountability, right, But

(44:07):
the bigger picture in this city has to be if
it's ever going to get any better, and the pressure
has to come from those teams need more talent more
than they need better coaches and managers. I agree with that.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
Okay, they also need more accountability with that. But if
I couldn't like to get to my points lance based
on what I hear about your positivity, I don't think
you're going to change your outlook. I think once this
blows over, I think I think you mentioned that you
still have a little bit of glimmer of hope for
this Sunday's game. I think you're just going to probably
keep for your perception of the Bengals the same as

(44:41):
just always having hope and and and positivity toward them.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
Well, talk to me at four fifteen. It may hinge
on results on Sunday four fifteen.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
Okay, Well that was just that's just that's just my opinion.
But my last thing is I've been a fans. That's
not not that anyone can, but I've been a fan
this nineteen eighty eight. You and I have actually gone
back and forth on emails and all the sorts of
things through the years about I don't the nineties and
I shouldn't have done this, but the nineties, but the

(45:13):
Mike Brown nineties have absolutely destroyed my faith. I am
going to be a Bengals fan till the day I die,
But for some reason.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
I just can't get out of those nineties.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
And Mike Brown is still the owner, and I think
he's got a lot more and put in everybody thinks,
and I don't ever have hope or expectations, and so, yeah,
I didn't like Sunday's loss, but it didn't hurt me
because I expected to lose. I expected them to lose.
So it's so much easier to go through that when
you don't have that high hope of losing effort like
Mike Brown's teams.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Yeah, well I understand from that angle. Paul, Thank you,
all right, thank you, all right. We've reached the bottom
of the hour, perfectly time for a check on sports.
We've got a hustle. We've got thirty minutes in counting
now actually under thirty minutes still the top of the hour,
and that'll be the Scott Saderfield Show talking you see football.
I have a thought of on our weekend, our our
day trip to Madison, Indiana. I wanted to mention I've

(46:05):
got a reaction coming from Jeff and Tim and a
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(46:28):
We'll count on Freeman. Little delivers Freeman. It's one high
in the air, straightaway center field. Marshall pet don't walk God.
An instant classic last night. Started it just after eight
Eastern time, ended at two fifty one this morning. Three

(46:53):
hundred and ninety nine minutes of baseball six hours and
thirty nine minutes. There were nineteen pitchers used. There were
six hundred and nine pitches thrown, the most in postseason history.
In fact, forty six more than had ever been thrown
in a postseason game prior. Batters went to the plate
one hundred and fifty three times last night. Each team

(47:17):
scored in the seventh. I was asleep by eleven thirty.
That was right around the seventh. They went scoreless over
the next ten innings. There were thirty one hits, nineteen walks,
twenty nine strikeouts, and one stolen base. There were thirty
seven runners left on base last night there were six
thrown out on the bases, so incredibly, forty three base

(47:41):
runners last night didn't score. Shohe O Tani reached base
nine times, seriously nine times. Two homers, two doubles, five walks,
four of them intentional, three of them with nobody on base,
three intentional walks with nobody on base, And the Jays

(48:02):
manager has said tonight they're walking. Show hey every time.
We'll see if it holds true, we'll climb. The last
man in the bullpen for the Dodgers, the last man
pitched four scoreless innings before Game three. He had never
thrown more than three innings as a professional, had never
thrown more than thirty eight pitches in a Major League game.
The Dodgers stranded thirty eight runners. The Blue Jay stranded

(48:25):
nineteen runners. The Dodgers had a runner in scoring position
in the tenth, the eleventh, the thirteenth, the fourteenth, and
the seventeenth, and two days after throwing the first World
Series complete game in ten years, Yoshi Yamamoto Yoshiobo Yamamoto
started to warm up in the eighteenth in case they
needed him. The Blue Jays became the first team in

(48:47):
postseason history to use four pinch runners in a game.
It was just insane and I did not know until
I woke up this morning what the final score was.
By the way, I ask on x Twitter how many
people were up for the end of the game. It's
running at fourteen percent, which goes back to and this
will make you see Chris very unhappy, but it goes

(49:07):
back to my long standing thought on extra innings and
the way the rules are. The rules are perfect because
they're different. In the regular season, there's the free runner
because they want a quicker resolution of a game. In
the postseason, they play it out because of the significance
and importance of the game. People say they love extra

(49:27):
inning games. Nobody stays up and sticks around for innings fifteen, sixteen,
seventeen eighteen, especially in on a Monday in May, or
a Wednesday in July or a Thursday in September. The
TV ratings will back that, the radio ratings will back that,
and the fans and the stands will back that people

(49:49):
aren't sticking around that long. Fourteen percent of the people
in my Twitter question today were around at the end,
So don't give me the all they need to make
the rule the same and playing till there's a winner
in extra innings. Without that Mickey Mouse ghost Runner, it
serves the purpose quick resolution to something that happens inside

(50:14):
of a one hundred and sixty two game season. Leave
the instinct classics for the postseason. That was nuts last night,
absolutely insane. I mean get and I'm gonna do a show, hey,
topic maybe tomorrow night. I'm just not sure what the
topic is going to be if that makes it, I

(50:35):
don't know how to frame the topic of what we
are witnessing. He reached base nine times and he's the
starting pitcher in tonight's game. Incredible, absolutely incredible. How about
h Westchester? Hey, Jeff, welcome to sports Talk than thanks

(50:58):
for calling. What's on your mind?

Speaker 4 (51:01):
Could we put a kebash on the Hooday?

Speaker 10 (51:03):
Chance?

Speaker 13 (51:04):
Until they win two games in a row, especially after
I get kind of thick of hearing it when we're losing, I.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Will, I'll pass that a law. I'll see what I
can do with the fan base.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
Do you know why that they didn't run the ball
on the second.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Last I still I still cannot believe that second and
ten play. I just I cannot, but and to me,
it just screams of him being so overwhelmed by the
moment at that point that it was a moment where

(51:44):
that right there shows you he needs to be the
coach overseeing the game and there needs to be a
play caller focusing on the next play, because him trying
to do both left us in that moment on second
and ten. And I gotta tell you that much in
most NFL cities would have been a fireable offense.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (52:06):
Back even though back to the Super Bowl, the last
position they had they were running the ball well at
the end of near the end of the game, and
they they had Joe Mixon on the sideline and said, well,
you know, run the ball some maybe you'll get first
down instead of just trying to throw the ball, especially
when you have pass rushers like they had.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
I don't get it, but yeah, I mean I don't
think I ever will.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (52:33):
They just need to run the ball and more consistently.
I mean they did were on well this was past
week and the week before, but it needs to keep up. Hey, Jeff,
thank you, But of course we got a defensive problem.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
Oh yeah, by the way, yes, absolutely right, thank you, Jeff. Great,
appreciate you checking in. How about Canton we go? Hey, Damon,
Welcome to Sports Talk.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
Hey Lance, how you do it? I did watch the
entire game last night.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Holyw.

Speaker 9 (53:01):
I get to that.

Speaker 15 (53:02):
But also I wanted to give you a little introspection
there on where you're at with the Bengals. I'm five
decade old Bengel fan. I'm a little further down the
river than you.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
So basically, what you're saying is that this.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
Sport, you love it, it's exciting, You're.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
Passionate about it.

Speaker 15 (53:21):
You want to think about it from week to week,
day to day. You want to get ready for pregame,
you want to do the post game, yes, instead of
watching like a thirty minute sitcom. And the reason what
has happened last is that, Yeah, the Brown family has
ruined our NFL experience. And I put this into chat

(53:43):
GBT and I said everything about it, and they came
back and said that we as Cincinnati fans, could easily
prove that from the inception of this organization it has
been run negligent.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
This is what you just said on just how you
could take.

Speaker 15 (54:03):
Any example throughout their history and the negligence that just
the signing of p Higgins, how they didn't appropriate the
money correctly to get the cap space right.

Speaker 4 (54:14):
How many trades are gonna gonna do before the deadline?

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Oh, the Bengals don't do that.

Speaker 4 (54:18):
Oh, we're not going to do free agency. We don't participate.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
So and yet there's the NFL. And yet there's just
enough of the elixir of a Super Bowl three different times,
and a drafting of a Joe Burrow and the trading
for Joe Flacco. There's like little mercils in the andestions of.

Speaker 4 (54:42):
But I wonder if you look at being behind the
eight ball, because that's what you are.

Speaker 15 (54:48):
You're at a point now where you're changing the entire
way you want to view something you love. And the
reason you're doing that is for one reason, And it's
the way this organization has been run from day one.
And we could go back to how many Ricky Huntley star,
how many picking, how many how many Carson.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Palmers leave on other teams? Don't do that.

Speaker 4 (55:10):
You don't see this. We should be according to chat GPT,
we can. We can ask the NFL to investigate the Bengals.
We believe, as the fans of.

Speaker 15 (55:21):
Cincinnati they are being run negligently. They could remain owners,
but they could have nothing to do with day to
day operations. I think that happened with the Cavaliers owner
one time.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Good luck with all Ted step In. Yeah, but Ted
stepping never went to the NBA Finals three times, like
were the playoffs five straight times? Like the Begls didn't.

Speaker 4 (55:45):
Do you think the Browns are run negligently?

Speaker 1 (55:48):
I think there are clearly issues, issues that bother me.
And yet if if you're going to argue from that standpoint,
there are many more franchises than that are there are
many more franchises. It happens if three Super Bowls or
went to the just four years ago, went to a
Super Bowl and then back to an AFC championship. So
if I were the league, I'd say, why are you

(56:08):
worried about that team? They've been to a Super Bowl
and back to the AFC title in the last five years.
We need more teams who've done that around the league.

Speaker 15 (56:16):
Well, I think there's okay, I don't know that that
actually goes with the neglive that you can.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
If they'd accomplished that. That's my point.

Speaker 15 (56:28):
If you were a doctor or surgeon, out of one
hundred surgeries, you might get three of those rights and
you could be negligent.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
All the other time.

Speaker 15 (56:36):
And that's what the tingles are anyway about the baseball game.
I'm not even a real baseball fan, not even a
real I haven't watched a full baseball game in ten years.
And I got down and I watched this thing and
this so Taani guy and I got to a point
that was like it was, it made it may bring
me right back to watching baseball.

Speaker 4 (56:56):
Oh the great experience of everything it was.

Speaker 7 (57:02):
I mean, uh it ever.

Speaker 15 (57:04):
Because everything hings on every pitch where the runners were
at ye and I tell you what the game what
they got the ball and he threw it.

Speaker 4 (57:14):
They got the ball and he threw it six and
it was going and oh yeah it was.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
But what it was just fantastic.

Speaker 15 (57:23):
So I am so glad I sat through it. Something historical,
but wow, there, I'm glad I experienced that.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Well said Will said, thank you, Damon. Have a good night. Yes,
six hundred, six hundred and nine pitches, six hundred and
nine pitches by nineteen pitchers last night, and the guy
who got on bayed nine times and night at bats
toes the rubber to start to get tonight. Sorry Carrier.

(57:52):
Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WLW heading
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hand things off to the Scott Centerfield Joe Live from
the original Montgomery In from eight to nine o'clock. We
wrap up Arnold Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet

(58:15):
with a couple of calls related to the Bengals, and
we head to uh let's see, we head to West
Union and then we head to Covington. Tim, what's on
your mind?

Speaker 9 (58:26):
What's up last?

Speaker 7 (58:27):
Thanks for taking my call.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
Sure, thanks for calling.

Speaker 7 (58:30):
I had a couple of things for you. I know
the Brown family gets beat up a lot, but I'd
like to make a couple of points on their behalf.
I know you don't hear that very often. Sure, if
we look back, you say, well, we gotta get Joe
Burrow's signed.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Well, the Bengals do.

Speaker 7 (58:44):
They make Joe Burrow the highest played player in NFL history.
Then they say, well, they don't participate in free agency
and we gotta protect Joe Burrow.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
So well they do.

Speaker 7 (58:52):
They go out and get Orlando Bloom or Orlando Brown
Brown Junior. He's the highest paid offensive lineman in NFL history,
and they say, we got retail, ain't our good players.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
And what do the Bengals do.

Speaker 7 (59:02):
They make Jamar Chase the highest paid wide receiver in
NFL history. Then they say, well we need what about
t Higgins, Well, well they do. They make him the
number two highest paid player in NFL history. You talk
about the defense, We got to keep our good players,
Trey Hendrickson even though he's under contract, Well they do.
They renegotiate, give him the raise. They talk about safety problems,

(59:22):
they go out and get the safety. I can't think
of his name off the top of my head. From
from Baltimore, he would have the most interceptions of any player.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
In the NFL.

Speaker 7 (59:30):
Safety, Yeah, gome Stone. And then I know Logan Wilson
is not performing well. But you talk about retaining your
good players. The Bengals re signed Logan Wilson. They talk
and then what they do to show up the offensive line.
They go out and draft mems. And I know that,
uh the second round are out of out of Clemson.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
Yeah, Jackson Carman, Jackson Carmen. So you made you made
very fair and truthful statements, no question, you know.

Speaker 7 (01:00:01):
And I realized that they could have done better things
and spend the money differently, but I'm not gonna beat
them up when the bele when the fans start screaming
you need to do this and do this, and the
Bengals go out and do them. Uh, you know, I
think a lot this falls on Zach Taylor. I think
he was overwhelmed Sunday. I think you alluded to that.
I think that was his worst loss, as.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
They noticed that coach far away, no doubt.

Speaker 7 (01:00:25):
I mean, you're up by two touchdowns against those seven
team at home in the fourth quarter and you blow
that game. That is a bad loss. So anyway, just
some points I say, I'm going to defend the Brown
family a little bit. Duke Tobin, I also think deserves
a little bit of blame.

Speaker 6 (01:00:41):
But you know, let's let's, you know, give the Bengals.

Speaker 7 (01:00:44):
A fair the Brown family a fair look out of
all this. So anyway, I'll listen to your comments and
I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
Tim, thank you. I appreciate checking in and adding to that.
I can't dispute those All of those things he said
are are truthful and in the in the case of
uh Chase and and Higgins, were exactly what the fan
base wanted. Can't cannot dispute that Covington would go Mike,
you're on seven hundred w l W kay Lance thinks
to taking my call. Sure, just a quick question about a.

Speaker 9 (01:01:15):
Play in the Bengals Steeler game, and then my comments
on being an aty thing h David the fourth quarter
he catches that ball, goes down instead.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Of going in for a touchdown. Yes, I need no,
I need to know personally.

Speaker 9 (01:01:31):
Was that called for him to go down or to
eat on his own?

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
Yes? That was that was by It was a reminder
from Zach, and Zach had learned. I think it was
the Giants game last year when they didn't do that
in an almost hurt him. But part of the play
call was with a reminder, if we get in this position,
go down, and he did. I can't tell you how
happy that makes me feel to hear you say that. Well,

(01:01:55):
I'm glad.

Speaker 6 (01:01:56):
The other hand, on the other hand, I threw.

Speaker 9 (01:01:58):
Up an Illinois outside Saint Louis, A Cardinal fan in
both and both football and baseball, A Blues fan and hockey.

Speaker 4 (01:02:05):
Yes, I worked at Illinois State Go Redbirds.

Speaker 6 (01:02:09):
I lived at Chicago and I.

Speaker 9 (01:02:10):
Moved here to Cincinnati January first, nineteen ninety, nineteen.

Speaker 4 (01:02:16):
Ninety, What a great year to be in Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
May like I put border in a slot machine in Gotta.

Speaker 6 (01:02:24):
But it's ever oh yeah, Lance and tough and I
can't go back.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
But I'm for the.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
That is very well said, Mike. You're the man. It's
a great way to end it. Thank you have good
night you as well. Yeah it it turned after that. Uh,
in conclusion, tonight, let me let me say this. I
I love when I get input and suggestions from listeners
on places we go when we do our weekend trips

(01:02:52):
and getaways. We happen to be going to Knoxville Bengals
by weekend for the first time we've ever gone to Knoxville,
so I'm certainly open for any suggestion on places to
go and things to do and places to eat and
all that. I'd like to give you one tip if
I could. I always like to play it forward, pay
it forward. Maybe you've heard me mention Madison, Indiana before
I'll mention it again. We did another awesome Saturday day

(01:03:16):
trip to Madison, Indiana. It is about an hour and
ten minutes from our home in northern Kentucky. It's along
the Ohio River, close to Hanover College, beautiful campus there
by the way. You talk about a cool little town
with friendly people and things to do and businesses that
all help each other and are in it together. Kelly

(01:03:36):
and I keep saying we're going to retire there someday.
It is just I cannot. And every time I recommend it,
people say, stop talking about Madison, Indiana. It was voted
like USA Today's best small town in America, and people
stop talking about it because people are going to go
to get crowded. But I'm telling you it is the
coolest town and we have set your routine. We got
in around two. We went to the Red Roaster for

(01:03:57):
coffee and a sandwich, and we stopped at James, which
is a fantastic men's clothing store, and it was great
seeing Justin Priest and he and Kelly had me in
and out of the dressing room trying on clothes. It
was a two bag visit this time. I think they've
become like the unofficial official clothier of me. It was
great seeing Justin and Rodney and Jaden there. I'm so

(01:04:18):
happy for their success and the opening of of the
new Bridle store as well. There we had another excellent
meal at red On Maine, owned by Lauri and John,
who are Cincinnati people, and we missed our favorite server, Mark,
who wasn't there that night. But we had a fantastic
meal at red On Maine. And we went to Madison Buy,
Sell and Trade. It's a vintage store, and there was

(01:04:38):
a UC basketball program from two thousand and one with
hugs on the cover for the UC Wake Forest game.
And there was a plastic REDS batting helmet for eight
ninety nine. And we went to the Old Time market
Place and we went to the Galina Garlic Company and
got a bottle of Bourbon maple balsamic olive oil, which

(01:04:59):
is just killer. We got there around two, we left
around seven. It was a fantastic five hours there. I
just I cannot tell you if you haven't been to Madison, Indiana,
and the thing I love. I love going someplace that
doesn't take me a long time to get there, it
doesn't take me a long time to get back, and
it's just a really cool, fun town that for us

(01:05:19):
is an hour and ten minutes away. Shout out to Madison, Indiana,
and again, if you have any recommendations for Knoxville, I
know we are going to see the Tennessee Volunteers women
play on the Friday night we're in town. Kelly is
a huge women's college basketball fan WNBA fan, so we're
gonna see that on Friday night. I got a couple
of dinner spots. We're going to the Great Smoky Mountains

(01:05:40):
if you have Knoxville spots the football team out of
town off that weekend or out of town either one.
No football that weekend, but looking for some suggestions for
things to do. Hey. Thanks to Joe Wantel for producing.
Thanks to you for taking a listen. Man, I love
the conversation tonight. Stick around you see Football Talk with
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