November 20, 2025 • 9 mins
Trags updates listeners on the status of Joe Burrow ahead of Sunday's matchup against the Patriots.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
There. Let's keep rolling six twenty one on a Thursday
night at Long Necks in Hebrew, the Cincinnati, tex Resolution
powered by Tope Show and round Table Show. It's presented
by Postman Law a Lance but Calister Rocky Boyman Rocker
opening thoughts on Joe Burrow that plays into our hot
topic around the NFL this week, brought to you by
Hudson Oil, fueling champions on and off the field. Let's
continue that hot topic conversation with our next guest. Oh,
(00:26):
what a week it's been for him covering the Bengals
for c ands since he with the Wide dot Com
host of the Jungle War podcast on YouTube. I can
tell by his reaction. I hit the nail on the
head Mike Petralia, how are you in a busy week
for the Bengals.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I'm outside an adult Uh well, I shouldn't say adult boy,
that's uh.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I wanted to.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Say I'm outside an establishment in Loveland.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
As a matter of fact.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Oh, hearing Aerosmith's Draymond, how appropriate with the Patriots in
town this weekend one of Boston's finest bands. Of course,
one of my very favorite songs of all time playing
in the background as I speak to you, gentlemen, and
by the way, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yeah, well I was gonna So that was the question
was going to be, what what do your tea leaves
tell you about this situation with Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Well, I go back and forth every maybe fifteen to
twenty minutes. Yes, no, yes, no, maybe maybe yes no.
I would say at this point, yes he plays simply
because I don't think the Bengals would list him full
participation and go through the first team reps. And I
(01:46):
think the strongest indication and if you check it out
on my x page, the comments from t Higgins this
afternoon about the look he gave T Higgins when t
asked Joe if he were playing this weekend. It was
a look and te later told us I took that
look as a positive meaning yeah, I'm playing.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
T Higgins, you know, made it clear later in the
interview that he doesn't know for sure one way or another.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Only Joe knows that.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
But if you ask me right now on Thursday evening,
three days before the game, I think Joe Burrow is
going to try and go out and play for this reason.
If the Bengals win the game. They are four and
seven with a chance to go into Baltimore and still
have a you know, a relevant shot at making a
(02:40):
run in the AFC.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
North with a win in Baltimore.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
To lose the game, and whatever Joe Burrow does on
Thursday night in Baltimore means nothing in terms of the
team's playoff chances going forward.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Well, in Tragie Lance and I were just saying, I
find it hard to believe they would give up valuable
practice reps and there's not like you get, you know,
thousands of them during the course of a week. You
know they would put Joe Burrow in on those reps
and not another quarterback unless Burrow was playing. But let
me ask you this, has there been any other medical
(03:15):
updates on Joe Burrow or is he on what he's
going to be wearing anything like that.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
And the only thing we know is what Burrow told
us two Mondays ago, and that was that he's going
to have some instrument in his left shoe to protect
the tendon that was repaired below his left big toe.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
That's all we know.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I will tell you that he looks like he's.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Moving around really well.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
In the practice and he's throwing those off platform throws
where he's leaning one way and throwing the other.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
He looks good doing that, and so take that for
what you will. We don't get to see the practice.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
It's really important to understand that the practices in terms
of the eleven and eleven work which he began this week,
are closed to the media. Ted Carris reminded that reminded
us of that this afternoon in the locker room. So
you don't know what we're doing in practice, and we're
not about to tell you right now.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Traggs is I'm trying to figure out how to say
this is Is this all about Joe being ready or
is there any element of it being Joe Flacco isn't
going to be ready? Do you know what I'm saying
is this is all I did Burrow. It's not necessity
because of Flacco.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I think it's eighty percent having Joe Burrow ready, and okay,
Joe Burrow is ready to go, then he's ready to go.
Twenty percent is yeah, Joe Flacco's banged up and they
would rather have I think Joe Burrow available. If he's available,
then Jake browning at this point and that's not meant
to be shot at Jake Browning. It is what it is.
(05:02):
They would rather have Burrow available. I will tell you this,
and I think it's important to keep this in mind
in terms of, you know, the roster manipulation going into
the weekend. You are not activating Joe Burrow to be
Joe Flacco's backup. You are activating Joe Burrow if you
do to start him on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Against New England. That would be my you know Nicol
and dime kind of GM analysis.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
There that in roster evaluation analysis that if he's going
to be activated, he's going to start and play against
New England.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
All right, guys know Jamar Chase. So what's Zach Taylor said?
What have you maybe seen it practice? Who's going to
fill that role?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
So that's a great question. Uh, you know, you move
everybody up one.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
T Higgins becomes the one, Andre Yo Sibosch becomes the two,
and then you're looking at I think at mix Tinsley.
They really trust Mitchell Tinsley uh to fill in that
role as the third receiver in the offense. They've loved
his work ethic, the way he's you know, put his
nose to the grindstone ever since training camp. He didn't
(06:09):
have a spot on the roster. He earned it and
they love his attitude and I would expect Mitchell Tinsley
to step into that role pretty fluidly. In terms of
what could be behind Tinsley, You're looking at Charlie Jones,
who also obviously has kick return and punt return responsibilities.
(06:32):
And then what about Jermaine Burton. Is this the moment
where he perhaps gets an opportunity to step into the
role of, you know, an extra receiver on the roster
or not. And I think it'll be very telling if
he's activated Sunday or if he's not activated in terms of.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
What his role is on the team going forward.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Treg's We obviously know the Bengals have a lot of
work to improve this defense by next season. You've written
about the Patriots who did a quick one offseason jolt
of a turnaround of their defense.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
How have they gone about doing it well.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
They've brought in I believe it is Land, six free agents,
two of which have played for Mike Brabole before. They've
done it up and down, up and down the defense.
One defensive lineman to go along with Christian Barmore, who
Bengal fan should keep a very close eye on Sunday.
(07:29):
He's one of the best defensive players on that team,
no question. Then they remade their linebacking corps, which I
think the Bengals really need to think about doing this year.
I don't I'm not trying to trash the rookies Demetrius
Knight Junior and Barrett Carter by any stretch, but those
two need two or three veterans in alongside them to
(07:52):
help them grow and not have everything thrown on their shoulders.
The Patriots did that this year with their linebacking corps.
And then they have a new safety and they have
a new cornerback, and they just completely remade their attitude,
remade their roster. They have a fly to the ball mentality,
very aggressive Mike Rabele's defense. They like the blitz and
(08:18):
you can see a little bit of that on Sunday.
But they are the best run stopping team in the
National Football League, allowing just over eighty four yards a game.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
All right, Trags, you're all over all of this that
is unfolding with the Bengals. Tell listeners how they can read,
watch it and follow along.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
All right online celns Sincy with a y dot com.
You can see my latest story on whether or not
Joe Burrow will play and reading the tea Leaves as
you put at Lance that's up there now online. You
can also check out all my locker room interviews, including
today's interview with t Higgins that is up on the
(08:59):
X at Trags t R A GF and of course
my YouTube page for the Jungle War Bengals postgame pod
along with Richard Skinner of Local twelve that is at
YouTube dot com Slash Jungle.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Rar Odd And I would add to that your Bengals
apology letter story you wrote c l n S since
you with the y dot com was superb and a
must read.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Very well done. I appreciate, appreciate you Lance.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Thank you very much for saying that you are too kind.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I have a great night, Trags. We'll talk.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Uh, we'll be in touch because well, I got to
see if you can talk on Wednesday or not because
we're not here on Thursday. Say no, well my people
will talk with your people.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
How's that rocky? You know me? Well?
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Thanks Drags.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Bye,
There. Let's keep rolling six twenty one on a Thursday
night at Long Necks in Hebrew, the Cincinnati, tex Resolution
powered by Tope Show and round Table Show. It's presented
by Postman Law a Lance but Calister Rocky Boyman Rocker
opening thoughts on Joe Burrow that plays into our hot
topic around the NFL this week, brought to you by
Hudson Oil, fueling champions on and off the field. Let's
continue that hot topic conversation with our next guest. Oh,
(00:26):
what a week it's been for him covering the Bengals
for c ands since he with the Wide dot Com
host of the Jungle War podcast on YouTube. I can
tell by his reaction. I hit the nail on the
head Mike Petralia, how are you in a busy week
for the Bengals.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I'm outside an adult Uh well, I shouldn't say adult boy,
that's uh.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I wanted to.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Say I'm outside an establishment in Loveland.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
As a matter of fact.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Oh, hearing Aerosmith's Draymond, how appropriate with the Patriots in
town this weekend one of Boston's finest bands. Of course,
one of my very favorite songs of all time playing
in the background as I speak to you, gentlemen, and
by the way, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yeah, well I was gonna So that was the question
was going to be, what what do your tea leaves
tell you about this situation with Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Well, I go back and forth every maybe fifteen to
twenty minutes. Yes, no, yes, no, maybe maybe yes no.
I would say at this point, yes he plays simply
because I don't think the Bengals would list him full
participation and go through the first team reps. And I
(01:46):
think the strongest indication and if you check it out
on my x page, the comments from t Higgins this
afternoon about the look he gave T Higgins when t
asked Joe if he were playing this weekend. It was
a look and te later told us I took that
look as a positive meaning yeah, I'm playing.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
T Higgins, you know, made it clear later in the
interview that he doesn't know for sure one way or another.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Only Joe knows that.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
But if you ask me right now on Thursday evening,
three days before the game, I think Joe Burrow is
going to try and go out and play for this reason.
If the Bengals win the game. They are four and
seven with a chance to go into Baltimore and still
have a you know, a relevant shot at making a
(02:40):
run in the AFC.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
North with a win in Baltimore.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
To lose the game, and whatever Joe Burrow does on
Thursday night in Baltimore means nothing in terms of the
team's playoff chances going forward.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Well, in Tragie Lance and I were just saying, I
find it hard to believe they would give up valuable
practice reps and there's not like you get, you know,
thousands of them during the course of a week. You
know they would put Joe Burrow in on those reps
and not another quarterback unless Burrow was playing. But let
me ask you this, has there been any other medical
(03:15):
updates on Joe Burrow or is he on what he's
going to be wearing anything like that.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
And the only thing we know is what Burrow told
us two Mondays ago, and that was that he's going
to have some instrument in his left shoe to protect
the tendon that was repaired below his left big toe.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
That's all we know.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I will tell you that he looks like he's.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Moving around really well.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
In the practice and he's throwing those off platform throws
where he's leaning one way and throwing the other.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
He looks good doing that, and so take that for
what you will. We don't get to see the practice.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
It's really important to understand that the practices in terms
of the eleven and eleven work which he began this week,
are closed to the media. Ted Carris reminded that reminded
us of that this afternoon in the locker room. So
you don't know what we're doing in practice, and we're
not about to tell you right now.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Traggs is I'm trying to figure out how to say
this is Is this all about Joe being ready or
is there any element of it being Joe Flacco isn't
going to be ready? Do you know what I'm saying
is this is all I did Burrow. It's not necessity
because of Flacco.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I think it's eighty percent having Joe Burrow ready, and okay,
Joe Burrow is ready to go, then he's ready to go.
Twenty percent is yeah, Joe Flacco's banged up and they
would rather have I think Joe Burrow available. If he's available,
then Jake browning at this point and that's not meant
to be shot at Jake Browning. It is what it is.
(05:02):
They would rather have Burrow available. I will tell you this,
and I think it's important to keep this in mind
in terms of, you know, the roster manipulation going into
the weekend. You are not activating Joe Burrow to be
Joe Flacco's backup. You are activating Joe Burrow if you
do to start him on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Against New England. That would be my you know Nicol
and dime kind of GM analysis.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
There that in roster evaluation analysis that if he's going
to be activated, he's going to start and play against
New England.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
All right, guys know Jamar Chase. So what's Zach Taylor said?
What have you maybe seen it practice? Who's going to
fill that role?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
So that's a great question. Uh, you know, you move
everybody up one.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
T Higgins becomes the one, Andre Yo Sibosch becomes the two,
and then you're looking at I think at mix Tinsley.
They really trust Mitchell Tinsley uh to fill in that
role as the third receiver in the offense. They've loved
his work ethic, the way he's you know, put his
nose to the grindstone ever since training camp. He didn't
(06:09):
have a spot on the roster. He earned it and
they love his attitude and I would expect Mitchell Tinsley
to step into that role pretty fluidly. In terms of
what could be behind Tinsley, You're looking at Charlie Jones,
who also obviously has kick return and punt return responsibilities.
(06:32):
And then what about Jermaine Burton. Is this the moment
where he perhaps gets an opportunity to step into the
role of, you know, an extra receiver on the roster
or not. And I think it'll be very telling if
he's activated Sunday or if he's not activated in terms of.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
What his role is on the team going forward.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Treg's We obviously know the Bengals have a lot of
work to improve this defense by next season. You've written
about the Patriots who did a quick one offseason jolt
of a turnaround of their defense.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
How have they gone about doing it well.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
They've brought in I believe it is Land, six free agents,
two of which have played for Mike Brabole before. They've
done it up and down, up and down the defense.
One defensive lineman to go along with Christian Barmore, who
Bengal fan should keep a very close eye on Sunday.
(07:29):
He's one of the best defensive players on that team,
no question. Then they remade their linebacking corps, which I
think the Bengals really need to think about doing this year.
I don't I'm not trying to trash the rookies Demetrius
Knight Junior and Barrett Carter by any stretch, but those
two need two or three veterans in alongside them to
(07:52):
help them grow and not have everything thrown on their shoulders.
The Patriots did that this year with their linebacking corps.
And then they have a new safety and they have
a new cornerback, and they just completely remade their attitude,
remade their roster. They have a fly to the ball mentality,
very aggressive Mike Rabele's defense. They like the blitz and
(08:18):
you can see a little bit of that on Sunday.
But they are the best run stopping team in the
National Football League, allowing just over eighty four yards a game.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
All right, Trags, you're all over all of this that
is unfolding with the Bengals. Tell listeners how they can read,
watch it and follow along.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
All right online celns Sincy with a y dot com.
You can see my latest story on whether or not
Joe Burrow will play and reading the tea Leaves as
you put at Lance that's up there now online. You
can also check out all my locker room interviews, including
today's interview with t Higgins that is up on the
(08:59):
X at Trags t R A GF and of course
my YouTube page for the Jungle War Bengals postgame pod
along with Richard Skinner of Local twelve that is at
YouTube dot com Slash Jungle.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Rar Odd And I would add to that your Bengals
apology letter story you wrote c l n S since
you with the y dot com was superb and a
must read.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Very well done. I appreciate, appreciate you Lance.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Thank you very much for saying that you are too kind.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I have a great night, Trags. We'll talk.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Uh, we'll be in touch because well, I got to
see if you can talk on Wednesday or not because
we're not here on Thursday. Say no, well my people
will talk with your people.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
How's that rocky? You know me? Well?
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Thanks Drags.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Bye,
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