November 6, 2025 • 7 mins
Trags discusses the Bengals' trading Logan Wilson and the fracturing locker room.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Six seven hundred WLW at ESPN fifteen thirty. We're at
Long Necks in Even for the roundtable show Were I
Do It? Part by Hawksworth Blood Centers, Hawksword donor Save
Lives Close to Home, Who Will You Save? Our first
guest every week covers the Bengals for c l NS
Sinceywthy dot com, host of the Jungle War podcast on YouTube.
We welcome in Mike Petralia Trags. How we doing.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I'm doing well, Lance, how about yourself?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
We are We're well And let's kind of sort through
the week that has been for the Bengals and the
obvious question. First, your reaction to the dealing of Logan
Wilson to the Cowboys for a seventh round pick.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I think it was a move that could be expected.
The Bengals were trying to get a resource in return
from anybody, and they were able.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
To do that.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
In getting a seventh round pick, they were able to
free up about two to three million dollars in cap
spacemediately going forward, and that's something, uh, not much, and
they weren't going to get much for Logan Wilson, and
I think they were doing right by Logan Wilson. They
knew he was not happy in the situation that he
(01:14):
was in here in Cincinnati, and unfortunately, I think somebody
said it was like going from the Titanic to another
to the Hindenburg and happen Burg kind of a Yeah,
it's kind of a graphic comparison analogy, but you know,
there's some truth to that, because the Dallas Cowboys don't
(01:35):
exactly have.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
All of their ores in the water right now either.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
But with Logan Wilson they get some type of commodity
in return that they can use next year, although obviously
it's not a huge bargaining chip at all that they're
getting back.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
All right, Well, same question involving Trey Henderson. But your
reactioned him not to trade to me, I just feel
like this Bengals team, for whatever reason, is reluctant to
give up on this season.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
What about you?
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Trage resurprised they did not trade Hendrickson.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Mildly surprised. I wasn't surprised, Rocky, because of the price
tag that they put on Trey.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
They weren't going to get that.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
They weren't going to get a first or second rounder
back in return, and so in that regard, I wasn't
surprised that they didn't trade them. Do I think they
should have traded him perhaps and gotten a little bit creative, Yeah,
I do. I don't think Trey Hendrickson at this point
in time is a piece that can help the Bengals
get to the playoffs. I happen to believe at three
(02:43):
and six, given the way the defenses played, even with
Trey Hendrickson in there, the way the defense is played,
they are nowhere remotely close to being a playoff caliber team.
And I think you know when teams recognize that early
on and make a decision to start building and building
aggressively for the future. To me, those are successful franchises
(03:06):
with dynamic general managers, and of course we could go
down that path, and it's.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Like beating a dead horse.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
But the Bengals don't have a true general manager. Of course,
they have a defacto one and dude Tobin, but that
is not like somebody who is in complete control of
football operations, and the Bengals desperately need somebody to come
in and be in complete control, one single voice who
has authority on all football personnel matters. And again, we
(03:35):
could spend hours and hours and hours we have been
spent on that, but that's not going to change.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Trags.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I thought you had a great question to Zach Earhler
this week, and I'm paraphrasing, but it was, what would
he say to the outsiders or to the fans who
wonder why there isn't change taking place this week with
where the season is.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
What did you think of his response? Well, that's a
great question. Lance.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
The way I read into that is he's trying to
keep the peace in the locker room. He's trying to
satisfy ownership and the football operations. He realizes there is
tension abound in the building, and he just gave the
answer of you know, we are happy with the people
(04:24):
that we have. We are confident that we can turn
it around. And to me, it's it's sort of an
empty answer, but it's an I understand why Zach gave
that answer, because he's trying to keep all parties happy.
Please understand that Zach Taylor is a guy caught in
betwixt and in between. He is in between a rock
(04:46):
and a hard place, between trying to keep a team
that's certainly on the.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Offenses is great, It's playoff caliber or even Super Bowl
caliber again, but the defense is, no, we're close to that.
He's trying to keep the piece in the locker room
and he's trying to keep the peace with ownership and
take the bullets for the ownership group and the management group,
which is they won't come forward and speak to the media.
(05:14):
So if the management isn't going to speak, if ownership
is not going to speak to the media, guess who.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
That falls on. Zach Taylor.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
And you can criticize Zach Taylor for the lack of
accountability I think sometimes on the team and for players,
especially especially on the defensive side of the ball, making mistakes.
One problem I have.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
And I'm thinking of this just as I say it now.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
To call out Chase Brown for being upset but not
call out the defense for being horrific in its play
on Sunday, it doesn't doesn't strike well with me, and
I don't think it strikes well with the locker room.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
And he's got to be very careful going forward.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
That he's not getting on players for saying the wrong
thing instead of getting on players for doing the wrong
thing on the field. That is a very fine line
that Zach Taylor is going to have to walk Tregs.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
You were all over this even during the bye week.
Tell everybody who wants to read, watch and follow how
they can do that.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yeah, I've got to column up on Seal and Stency
with a y dot com talking about why the Bengals
did nothing, essentially nothing and the status quo is just
fined by them at.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
The trade deadline.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
That's up on Sealing Essincy with a y dot com.
You can also check out all of my locker room
reaction and other musings on my X page at Trags
t r ags and as always my YouTube my Jungle
War podcast page on YouTube dot com Flash.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Jungle War Pod. Love it.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Always appreciate and enjoy the conversation. We'll do it again
next week.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Thank you, Lance, Rocky, thank you very much,
Six seven hundred WLW at ESPN fifteen thirty. We're at
Long Necks in Even for the roundtable show Were I
Do It? Part by Hawksworth Blood Centers, Hawksword donor Save
Lives Close to Home, Who Will You Save? Our first
guest every week covers the Bengals for c l NS
Sinceywthy dot com, host of the Jungle War podcast on YouTube.
We welcome in Mike Petralia Trags. How we doing.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I'm doing well, Lance, how about yourself?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
We are We're well And let's kind of sort through
the week that has been for the Bengals and the
obvious question. First, your reaction to the dealing of Logan
Wilson to the Cowboys for a seventh round pick.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I think it was a move that could be expected.
The Bengals were trying to get a resource in return
from anybody, and they were able.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
To do that.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
In getting a seventh round pick, they were able to
free up about two to three million dollars in cap
spacemediately going forward, and that's something, uh, not much, and
they weren't going to get much for Logan Wilson, and
I think they were doing right by Logan Wilson. They
knew he was not happy in the situation that he
(01:14):
was in here in Cincinnati, and unfortunately, I think somebody
said it was like going from the Titanic to another
to the Hindenburg and happen Burg kind of a Yeah,
it's kind of a graphic comparison analogy, but you know,
there's some truth to that, because the Dallas Cowboys don't
(01:35):
exactly have.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
All of their ores in the water right now either.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
But with Logan Wilson they get some type of commodity
in return that they can use next year, although obviously
it's not a huge bargaining chip at all that they're
getting back.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
All right, Well, same question involving Trey Henderson. But your
reactioned him not to trade to me, I just feel
like this Bengals team, for whatever reason, is reluctant to
give up on this season.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
What about you?
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Trage resurprised they did not trade Hendrickson.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Mildly surprised. I wasn't surprised, Rocky, because of the price
tag that they put on Trey.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
They weren't going to get that.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
They weren't going to get a first or second rounder
back in return, and so in that regard, I wasn't
surprised that they didn't trade them. Do I think they
should have traded him perhaps and gotten a little bit creative, Yeah,
I do. I don't think Trey Hendrickson at this point
in time is a piece that can help the Bengals
get to the playoffs. I happen to believe at three
(02:43):
and six, given the way the defenses played, even with
Trey Hendrickson in there, the way the defense is played,
they are nowhere remotely close to being a playoff caliber team.
And I think you know when teams recognize that early
on and make a decision to start building and building
aggressively for the future. To me, those are successful franchises
(03:06):
with dynamic general managers, and of course we could go
down that path, and it's.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Like beating a dead horse.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
But the Bengals don't have a true general manager. Of course,
they have a defacto one and dude Tobin, but that
is not like somebody who is in complete control of
football operations, and the Bengals desperately need somebody to come
in and be in complete control, one single voice who
has authority on all football personnel matters. And again, we
(03:35):
could spend hours and hours and hours we have been
spent on that, but that's not going to change.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Trags.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I thought you had a great question to Zach Earhler
this week, and I'm paraphrasing, but it was, what would
he say to the outsiders or to the fans who
wonder why there isn't change taking place this week with
where the season is.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
What did you think of his response? Well, that's a
great question. Lance.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
The way I read into that is he's trying to
keep the peace in the locker room. He's trying to
satisfy ownership and the football operations. He realizes there is
tension abound in the building, and he just gave the
answer of you know, we are happy with the people
(04:24):
that we have. We are confident that we can turn
it around. And to me, it's it's sort of an
empty answer, but it's an I understand why Zach gave
that answer, because he's trying to keep all parties happy.
Please understand that Zach Taylor is a guy caught in
betwixt and in between. He is in between a rock
(04:46):
and a hard place, between trying to keep a team
that's certainly on the.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Offenses is great, It's playoff caliber or even Super Bowl
caliber again, but the defense is, no, we're close to that.
He's trying to keep the piece in the locker room
and he's trying to keep the peace with ownership and
take the bullets for the ownership group and the management group,
which is they won't come forward and speak to the media.
(05:14):
So if the management isn't going to speak, if ownership
is not going to speak to the media, guess who.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
That falls on. Zach Taylor.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
And you can criticize Zach Taylor for the lack of
accountability I think sometimes on the team and for players,
especially especially on the defensive side of the ball, making mistakes.
One problem I have.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
And I'm thinking of this just as I say it now.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
To call out Chase Brown for being upset but not
call out the defense for being horrific in its play
on Sunday, it doesn't doesn't strike well with me, and
I don't think it strikes well with the locker room.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
And he's got to be very careful going forward.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
That he's not getting on players for saying the wrong
thing instead of getting on players for doing the wrong
thing on the field. That is a very fine line
that Zach Taylor is going to have to walk Tregs.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
You were all over this even during the bye week.
Tell everybody who wants to read, watch and follow how
they can do that.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yeah, I've got to column up on Seal and Stency
with a y dot com talking about why the Bengals
did nothing, essentially nothing and the status quo is just
fined by them at.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
The trade deadline.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
That's up on Sealing Essincy with a y dot com.
You can also check out all of my locker room
reaction and other musings on my X page at Trags
t r ags and as always my YouTube my Jungle
War podcast page on YouTube dot com Flash.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Jungle War Pod. Love it.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Always appreciate and enjoy the conversation. We'll do it again
next week.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Thank you, Lance, Rocky, thank you very much,
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