12-30-25 Bengals Roundtable Show with Lance and Austin

Lance and Austin talk Bengals and Bearcats, linking up with Chad Brendel and discussing the regular season finale against the Browns and some off-season topics

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Speaker 2 (00:52):
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Speaker 3 (00:54):
What Tuesday Night Special Edition, the wrap up edition of
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Rocky Boyman. Rocky's on assignment. I just can't remember which
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on a Simon, he's got a game. I think he's
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game on Friday, but in his place for the second
consecutive week, which must mean he didn't screw up last
week if they brought him back this week. He is
the main who's very happy to have Buckeyes tonight, delivered
by Fran and his lovely wife Phyllis. As we all
got Buckeyes tonight, I want to kick off to the show.
We welcome in the man you hear weekdays three to
six or I'm noon to three, noone to three on

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Since he three sixty, that's a lot of numbers and
in various capacities and roles on seven hundred WLW, that
would be Austin Illmore Lance.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
I'm great, thanks for having me.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
Happy to be back, and I feel like the Buckeyes
as a gift is a sign for things to come.
Tomorrow night in Arlington, Texas, you can just kick back
and eat Buckeyes all night. Pretty much the plan.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Life is good. Let me do some headlines. We can go.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Bengals return to the practice field to ramp up preparation
for Sunday's finale against the Browns at pay Court tomorrow.
The moment, the Bengals would pick tenth in the draft
and could move up as high as eight, drop as
low as twelve. Wille Anderson and Luke Keigley among fifteen
finalists for the Pro Football Hall of Fame in the
Modern Era Players category, with the class of twenty twenty six.
Five others, including Ken Anderson, among consideration in the seniors category.

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Results will be announced super Bowl weekend college football action.
Coastal Carolina falls to Louisiana Tech this afternoon. Tech wins
twenty three to fourteen in the Independence Bowl underway at
the moment in the Music City Bowl, Tennessee in Illinois.
Later tonight, USC and TCU in the Valero Bowl. College
football playoffs finally resume tomorrow night, so Ohio State versus

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Miami and the Cotton Bowl at seven thirty.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Hear it right here on seven.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Hundred WLWUC football in Memphis. Tonight they take on Navy
Friday in the Liberty Bowl. They'll do it without running
back Evan Pryor, who has entered the transfer portal. More
on the Bearcats, with Chad Brendle coming up at seven
oh six. College basketball. The Bearcats rolled Lipscomb last night.
Talk about it tonight after us with the West Miller

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Show at eight in preview Saturday's Big twelve opener at
home versus Houston on the court tonight Travis Steele. They
thirteen to o Miami RedHawks at Bowling Green.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
And Mac Action Maction.

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Louisville is at cal In Ohio at Central Michigan. Tomorrow night,
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So the Clones are back and busy this week. Home
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Year's Eve matchup versus Indy. Then it's the Kelly Cup

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throwback Jerseys back to back nights Friday seven thirty against
Toledo and Saturday four o'clock against Toledo.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
All right, that's quick check on some headline.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
Did you say indoor fireworks? Indoor fireworks? Yes tomorrow night, Yes, yes, it's.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
The only indoor fireworks around.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Makes me a little bit downtown. Let's take our first
time out. We come back to the man they call
Trags checks in. We talk some Bengals on the beat
with Mike Petralia's we continue the roundtable show seven hundred
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of the season as we lead into Bengals and Browns
wrapping up the season. On Sunday, we were in search
of Trags Mike Petralia from CLNS SINCI withthey dot Com.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Hope to hook up with him.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
We've got Chad Brendle on the way coming up at
seven oh six to night to talk some UC football.
Let's talk some Bengals in the moment and on Sunday,
I thought Austin they did. They did exactly what you
would hope they would do to a team that was
beat up, banged up, beaten down, had to travel cross country,
take care of them early score on the opening drive

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and maybe gave them a little bit of reason to
play after the thirty eight yard disastrous mistackle Trio along
the sidelines gave them a little bit of life, but
then took care of business and ultimately did what you
should do to the Arizona Carnivals.

Speaker 5 (05:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
I think that's the big takeaway really, is the fact
that you know, they did what they were supposed to do.
If they had squeaked out a seventeen thirteen win, we'd
be having a much different conversation right now. And I
think that's the thing that you really take away from
each of the last two games, which has been they
dominated an opponent, that they are much better than they
have more talent than, they have a better quarterback. I

(05:38):
think they have a better head coach than both those teams.
They did what they were supposed to do to a
inferior opponent at home, and they deserve credit for doing so,
for meeting the standard that has been established.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Now, obviously that's a team that's not very good.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
I think Moeger described it as the NFL's version of
an FCS opponent, and I think that's accurate. But you
can't control who lines up across from Yeah, and I
get and we talked a little bit about this last week.
I get the default position of most who say it.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Doesn't matter or it will lead to the front office
believing everything's okay.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
I get that that's fair that's earned.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
But for the moment, I can't do anything about the
offseason hasn't happened.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
I can only work on what they're doing now.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
The way they've looked the last two weeks is how
they should look against those teams, and let's go offensively, specifically,
they have looked like the well oiled machine that we
thought they could be and is a very dangerous offense.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
I don't care who they're playing. Yeah, I'm looking at.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
The way they have performed as an offense and it's
been high level.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
I think it doesn't matter necessarily who the players are.
You're gonna get a similar scheme in trying to double
team Jamar Chase, double team t Higgins, and then it's like, okay, well,
what's Andre Josevas gonna do, what's Mikasiki gonna do? And
how are you gonna stop Chase Brown? And the Bengals
have done a great job of the all of those weapons, now,
I think is sick. He had two catches for forty yards,
but one of them was on a broken play deep

(07:06):
down the field. Joe Burrow found him, converted a third down,
kept the drive alive. You're right, I think if anything
this last month or so has proven to us, Okay,
it still works. It still looks like what it's supposed
to look like when Joe Burrow is healthy, when the
big three are on the field together. That's something to
build around. And I don't know about you, but it
furthered my belief that Joe Burrow shouldn't play this week

(07:27):
against the Cleveland Browns because okay, yes, we were reminded
it still looks like that.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
It's fine.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Well, we'll get into the Browns and Joe and that
great debate of how much should Joe play, how much
he should play? In a bit, let me let me
while I'm thinking about let me let me ask something
that raction to what Charlie Goldsmith, our guy said earlier
this week. And then we'll continue searching for trags. But
in the moment, this is a good tie in. And

(07:53):
Charlie tweeted the following I think it was yesterday, and
he said this doesn't change the degree to which the
Bengals need to improve their defense. But had Joe Burrow
not suffered the two injury, I think the Bengals would
have won the division. Now, before everybody gets all bent
out of shape and says what they want to say
about the defense. Charlie added, Now he says, now in

(08:17):
the playoffs, the defensive flaws would have shown up. A
playoff game would have felt like the game at Buffalo,
but the Bengals would be in the dance. That also
informs what they need from the defense next year. The
unit can't just be passable. It needs to be able
to win a playoff game for you. Let me go
back to his original thought that, had Joe Burrow not

(08:38):
suffered the two injury, is this team the AFC North
champion in your mind?

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah? I think so.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
So there's six and ten right now, right, six and
ten right now? Yes, to be division champ this year.
Technically you could be nine and eight. So that's three
more wins. We're saying for arguments. If Joe Burrow doesn't
get hurt and Joe missed what nine games because they
went one and eight?

Speaker 2 (09:06):
So is that are three more doable? Yes?

Speaker 4 (09:10):
I think so. Do you think they lose the Jets game?
Do you think they lose the Bears game? I mean,
obviously the Buffalo game was a bit of a fluke,
but they were better than the Green Bay Packers for
a point, in that game at lambeau Field. Yes, they
could have won that game. I don't think they would
have turned the ball over five times against the Minnesota Vikings.
Don't know that they would have won that game, but

(09:30):
would agree with that if you assume they're going to
beat the Cleveland Browns this week. There's one yeah here
my only and I I thought it was a real
I thought it was a great statement by Charlie Haus.
It made me think because to answer to answer and
agree with him and say they would be the division champs.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
It'd be one thing if in most of.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
The losses they struggled to score, and yet they lost
a game scoring thirty seven, lost a game scoring thirty nine,
lost a game scoring forty seven, And I mean, I'm
sorry giving up yeah for scoring forty two, thirty eight,
thirty one. So would in the games where they put
up a lot of points and lost, how much of

(10:10):
a difference would Joe have made? You see what I'm saying. Yeah,
I see what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
And I don't. I don't know if I can convince
myself that they're a playoff team. If Joe didn't get hurt.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
I think the offensive efficiency would have just been a
tick more and it would have been maybe one more
possession leads to three more points or one less possession
for the opposing team, because the Bengals can run the
football effectively with Joe Burrow in the threat of the
wide receivers, and that means that the other team doesn't
touch the ball, meaning more complimentary football. So that's that's

(10:40):
how I view it. I also think that Patriots game,
if he plays, they probably win it. If Jamar Chase plays,
even without Burrow, they probably win that game.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
And that's the game.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
That's the game in the grouping where I say that's
the one I can easily flip.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yeah, if Joe's the quarterback. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
And you know, I think, honestly, you could look at
the Thursday night game against the Steelers and that could
have flipped either way based off the way Aaron Rodgers
was playing in that game. But I think early on
against the Lions they had a chance, but they kept
turning the ball over. Could that have been a different game.
Those are hard to say, just because of how deep
in it they were with Jake Browning at the time.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
And I do believe Charlie's statement to be true.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
And here's the I mean, think of this, here's the killer,
and it's why they missing out on this season. In
a season where Patrick Mahomes isn't in the playoffs and
Lamar Jackson may not be in the playoffs, We're sitting
here arguing, if Joe doesn't get hurt, they're nine and
eight in a division champ.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
That's all. It would have taken. Nine wins.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
But at the start of the season, had you said
they'd go nine and eight, we said, well, then the
season's gone south. They're going to be better than nine
and eight. And that's all they would have taken.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
Yeah, all they needed to do was be the team
they were last year. Oh yes, if they were the
team they were last year, they'd be in the playoffs
right now. It's it's it's amazing how similar to me
it feels than a year ago from a year ago,
because it is one possession here, one player there, one
player misses this play, whatever it might be, and that
kept them out of at least contending with the AFC.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
And just think they and I go back to Jake
Browning and boy from from how we viewed Jake to
where Jake's Jak is right now, and what his future is.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
I remember when Joe first got.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
Hurt, we were all quoting, like the storyline was, well,
he may be the thirty third best. Question, He's at
least the thirty third best quarterback in the NFL. He's
brother the best backup quarterback. And he went out for
three games and looked like he never played the game before.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah, they didn't. They were non competitive for three weeks
with Jake Brown.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
I remember before the season somebody from ESPN wrote the
best backup quarterbacks in the NFL. He was number two
behind Kirk Cousins, and I was thinking, all right, great,
And then on top of that, when Burrow goes down,
he leads this comeback win yep, at the very last
second to win. You're like, all right, we're gonna be fine.
Just get Joe back, we'll be fine.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
And you're right.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
He did look like he never played football before. I
have no explanation for that. Appreciated how aggressive he was.
He was always willing to push it and not afraid
of that, but that that hurt him ended up ended
up hurting him more than it helped him, and obviously
hurt the team.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
And I remember thinking, remember when we went through the
whole debate when Joe first got hurt, well, is he
gonna come back at all? Could he come back for
the final three? And we were all doing the math, like, okay,
with Flacco down control, can he be five hundred and
just keep him alive till Joe comes back?

Speaker 2 (13:24):
And they went without Joe, they went one and eight. Yeah,
I mean, just saying.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
That out loud, this team still with Jamar, Chase and
t Higgins and Mike Kasicki and Jamar and Chase Brown
and at the time Trey Hendrickson was healthy. That that
that they went on and eight without their starting quarterback.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
Do you think if Trey Hendrickson was healthy.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
They went there? That's a good question too.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
I think if Trey Hendrickson was healthy, they would have
beat the Chicago Bears.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
I would say that because you say what you want
to about Trey, and whether you like Trey or don't
like Trey, I think everybody asked can see Trey was.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Like the closer for this team.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah, when it came like closing time in a game,
it was Trey, go get the quarterback and wrap this
thing up.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
And they didn't have anybody to do that.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
I would also would have loved to see what it
looked like with Trey on the field against the Buffalo Bills. Yes,
the way that Josh Allen had kind of played and
in that moment, I don't know that it would have
made that big of a difference. But again to your point,
he was the closer, and that game against the Bears,
Caleb Williams was just running around doing whatever he wanted
yea and made so many plays off structure. But you know,

(14:33):
that three game stretch really is the big thing to me,
Like if they had not gotten Flacco three days before
they played the Green Bay Packers, then maybe they actually
win that game. They obviously knocked off Pittsburgh the Jets,
they needed one stop, one stop. Yeah, they win that game.
And the Bears basically can you tackle?

Speaker 2 (14:51):
And they couldn't. And that just it's the same thing
as last year.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
You think of Tanner Hudson fumbling at the goal line,
you think of day John Anthony's passenger if you're it's
in Kansas City four sixteen, like all these little moments,
it's just it leaves a bad taste in your mouth.
It adds up to a third straight year without the playoffs.
In the window that is Joe Burrow's career. What was
harder to watch though last year this year, because I

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think it was this year.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah, I would say it just became so deflating with
Joe's injury and then how miserable it was for three
weeks with Jake, and then a little bit of boost
of hope with Joe, and then the the the Flacco
and then the thought the defense just for so long
was just tough to watch. More on that as we continue,
Let's get a check on news and talk more about

(15:40):
the offense. Chase Brown season had more. He is Austin Ellmore.
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Speaker 2 (16:19):
We were talking.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
During one of the breaks and we've all confirmed, both Fran, Mike,
and myself all confirmed at some point in our lives
we banged pots and pans out.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
The back door.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
I'll never forget as a kid on New Year's my
grandma always saying, grab your pots and pans, and she
would open the sliding patio door and we'd all bang
potts for I think it was for good luck? Was
it for good luck? And it was also eat Sauer Kraut,
which I refused to do. I like Sara Kraut, but
my grandma always insisted, bang the pots and pans, eat
Sara Kraut for New Year's Eve.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
We had this conversation on the on the air earlier
today sixty three sixty yes her name to three.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
Talking about thirty and apparently it's to get rid of
the demons, the demons and the spirits and the bad
energy and the bad juju around the.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Now it's taking on a much more important meaning that
I was gonna say, does that mean that you go
back to that. Now, maybe I revert to my childhood.
We might need to do I never did that though,
never did anything like that.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
See, you should catch up and do it tomorrow night.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
Well there's other people who say that, you know, you
open your front door and open your back door to
let all the bad energy out.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
And I don't know. I have no idea. There's a
lot I want, you know, I want you to do.
What's that?

Speaker 4 (17:30):
I want you to bang pot and pans and eat
Buckeyes tomorrow night. I can eat the Buckeyes and I'll
tell you what. If we win, if we beat the Hurricanes,
there'll be some banging or something going on.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Oh, I can't believe.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
I have memories of banging a pot and pan out
to my Grandma.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Insisted, did you ever like them? You break them or anything?
It'll just like making the noise.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
No, it was the big like frying pan skillet, so
oh yeah, and the pots and that you.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Boil what you bang, bang, bang bang.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
It'd be like twelve degrees and then shut the door.
Did you ever accidentally take one upside the head?

Speaker 2 (18:02):
By Jesse? We knew what we were doing. Okay, all right,
I'm just looking for answers.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
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The Bengals were on their way to victory. And we'll
do our standing ovation for last week, presented by Ovation
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together the Ovation Standing Ovation each week throughout the season,
and we certainly appreciate Ovation being a part of the
show this season. Will go Chase Brown for his one

(18:49):
hundred and forty one yards from scrimmage. He did it
on the ground, he did it through the aar, he
did it blocking.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
I love the quote from.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Zach Taylor this week who said, and I think I'm paraphrasing,
I trust him in all three phases, yeah, meaning catching
the ball, running the ball, and blocking that dude, I mean,
if you talk about a season that turned as the
offensive line got better, because you remember, like the first
three or four weeks, we were all quoting, like Pro
Football Focus that he was, you know, hit behind the
line of scrimmage for what should have been like minus

(19:16):
forty two yards in a game. And now we're talking
about a guy who's about fifty yards away from a
thousand yard season in almost fourteen hundred yard fifteen hundred
yards in total offense.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
Yeah, I mean, it's been unbelievable and and it really
felt like it took them a while, not just to
get the run game going, but also to get him
involved in the past game. And I guess part of
the reason was, you know, without Joe Burrow, I don't
know if it's adjusting stuff at the line of scrimmage.
I don't know if it's moving him around in the
formation or whatever it was, and in the playbook maybe
being shrunk for Joe Flacco and or Jake Browning. But

(19:48):
now you've seen him everywhere. You see him motioning before
the snap. I like the wrinkle they've added the last
couple of weeks, which is two running back sets yep,
which is him and p Ryan on the field at
the same time, and then all of a sudden, he'll
move Chase Brown out. He becomes a threat catching the ball.
But also some myj PTE. Ryan's having a really good
season running the ball as well, doing part of that
offensive line. That's another wrinkle that makes this offense hard

(20:10):
to defense.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Yeah, and Joe it appears feels comfortable checking down with
him when something isn't there. They've targeted him. I think
I wrote down he has sixty five catches on eighty
two targets this year, So let's see, seventeen times five
is eighty five. So they're targeting him about five times
a game, which is up from a little about four
last year. So I you know, you're only going to

(20:33):
get so many targets in an offense that has Chase
it has Higgins. They've made Chase Brown a legitimate threat
both running and catching the football.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
I love that.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
Yeah, eighty two targets this year, he's sixty five all
of last year, and that's up from obviously fifteen in
his rookie season. But you're exactly right. And I remember
reading the article that Paul Danner Junior wrote last offseason
about the training that he and Andre josavash had done,
and how Chase Brown wasn't really raining in like a
running back.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
He was turning like a wide receiver.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
And you're starting to see that paid dividendce the point
you made about checking it down when the pocket gets
muddled and when Burrow just needs to get rid of it.
He's one of those guys that can turn a three
yard checkdown into a thirteen yard or into a if
it's third and fourteen, he can get the first down
out of that. He did that against Arizona. That's a
huge weapon to have.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Yeah, And I was talking with lap Bundy down on
Bengals line how it's almost equated to like a game
controller where there's like a turbo you pressed the button
for a little turbo boost and jamar or a Chase
that first step when he gets to it, he gets
to it, and he did a little jump step to
make a guy miss, and he's not afraid to then
plow into somebody and make contact. That's that's I mean,

(21:41):
we've just run through pass catching, running the ball well,
not afraid of contact, able to make you miss.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
That's a complete package of what you're looking for.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
I think his ability to to get top speed on
a misdirection or when he changes direction is really impressive.
I think back to the opening drive of the season.
They ran the ball down the throat of the clear
Eveland Browns and they got inside the five and they
were struggling a little bit. Hand the ball off to
chase to the right. He comes basically to a dead
stop and then just sprints to the left side and
beats the Browns defense to the end zone. That ability

(22:11):
to change directions so quickly get to top speed is
a huge weapon to have in the offense. And I
think his vision and his patience have been things that
have improved for him as the season went on. Yeah,
that's a great point about the opening drive. I think
if I remember, I think he had seven touches on
that opening drive of the season and think it holy cow.
And then he went through that phase where the offensive
line just wasn't doing anything and it made him kind

(22:33):
of question what was going on? And certainly no questions
now with what they're doing now. I guess that the question.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
To keep on the theme, he was a let's see,
he was what a fifth round pick? What we're at No.

Speaker 5 (22:44):
Third?

Speaker 2 (22:45):
He was a fifth round pick. Number one sixty three
overall number one sixty three, and this is year number three.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
So if I were to say to you, let's get
ahead of things and lock him up now, that to
me would seem perfect for a team that has waited too.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Long on other guys.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Yeah, in terms of making a statement to the rest
of your team and just locking up and taking care
of something offensively that you shouldn't worry about once you
get it done.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
Yeah, I think this year shows his value more than
maybe any point in his career. Obviously with the amount
of injuries that they've had. I think the way Zach
has talked about him, the way that Joe has talked
about him, even a little bit, the way Jamar Chase
has talked about him, you start to realize just how
important he is to the offense. You draft a guy
with this vision in mind, yep, that can take over

(23:33):
and be such a big weapon in your offense. And
I kind of equate this. For some reason, they may
not be comparable, but I think of the Logan Wilson
deal that he got prior to the end of his
rookie contract, where they took care of him early, they
gave him an extension, they settled their cap a little bit,
and they took care of one of their own, their
guys that had turned out to be a leader. On

(23:53):
that defense, I think it's comparable to Chase Brown, like
he's an important piece of this offense, and he's gonna
be affordable. You've got plenty of cap space, not just
next year, but the years after that.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Now is the time to lock him down.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
He will be next year, he'll be still only twenty six.
His workload has not been excessive. They haven't run him
into the ground first season forty four attempts last year
to twenty nine this year two nineteen with one game
to go, so he's not even at five five hundred
career rushing attempts and going into an age twenty six season.

(24:27):
There shouldn't be any worry about tread on the tire.
That's to me, that would be up on a board
of a working strategy of somebody you would take care
of and not worry about committing that type of money
to just push it off to the.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Side, say now we don't have to worry about him.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
And the other thing we've seen over the last couple
of years has been the renaissance of the running back
position in the NFL. Sakuon Barkley, Bjon Robinson, if you
watched him last night, unbelievable. Those are dudes that have
raised the price a little bit.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
And if the NFL is going to get back to
running football, I'm not. I don't know that it's ever
going to be a run first league again. But if
you're starting to see value at that position across the
league and guys that are not afraid to turn around
and hand it off twenty times a game, twenty five
times a game like they used to, then that positional
value is going to go up. And if you're Chase Brown,
I'd be pushing to get it done early as well,

(25:18):
so that I can double dip and get back into
free agency before I turn thirty or thirty one years old.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
All right, that was a heck of a segment. Let's
do one more.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Let's talk Geno Stone when we continue, So we have
to debate how how good a segment that will be.

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I wouldn't walk across the street to see Genos quick, kid,
did you?

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(26:55):
at performances and I say, early stage, it's a blip. Okay,
that was good. That was a blip on the radar.
The more it happens, I start to saying, all right,
I see a trend developing. I think we're now into
the stage where reality has hit with Miles Murphy. And
I don't want to make it out to think I
believe he's a pro bowler right now, or he's the
answered all their problems, but I believe he is a

(27:19):
piece that could be counted on as a regular contributor
on this defense.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
Would you agree? I agree with you one hundred percent.
I think that is one of the things you take
with you going into the top season and knowing, Okay,
this guy's going to play a role for us, and
you know, I think we've forgotten they changed defensive coordinators,
they change defensive line coaches.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yep. They brought in Jerry Montgomery, who.

Speaker 4 (27:40):
Has had some success coaching guys in the past at
that position, and all of a sudden, it felt like
the light bulb clicked.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Maybe it's just the way the defense is termed.

Speaker 4 (27:49):
Maybe it's just understanding that he's not a rotation, he's
a guy that's being relied on every single snap, and
there's more confidence that comes with that. I'm not sure
exactly what it is, but you're right. It's not been
two games. It's been eight games, nine games, ten games
which he's put it all together. And I think an
example is like TJ.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Slayton.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
TJ Slayton's been really good for the last two weeks. Yeah,
he's played two terrible teams for the last two weeks.
Miles Murphy's been good for the last ten weeks. DJ
Turner's been good for the last ten weeks. It's not
just something you see against bad teams. It's all across
the board.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Now.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
To me, I think it's important with Miles Murphy to
not be viewed. I think they have to view him
as he could be the guy on the other side
of the guy. Sure, he can be the second, and
I don't know who that first. I don't know that
they devote the money to Joseph o'side to do that.
But somebody has to be the guy to allow Miles

(28:40):
Murphy then to be the other guy. And there's nothing
wrong with being the other guy. It just I don't
want to count on him as the new Trey Hendrickson.
I don't think he's that yet. Do you think Joseph
Osai can be the guy?

Speaker 2 (28:51):
I don't. I don't.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
I don't think I'm fifteen million a year committed.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
To believing that, are you? No?

Speaker 5 (28:58):
Not?

Speaker 3 (28:58):
Really I like him, I just I almost feel like
the back portion of the season has been a missed
opportunity for him to convince me and probably convince them.
It's raised more questions than it's deliberate answers.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
He signed a prove it deal, yeah, to come back,
and all he'd done is proved that he's the same
guy he was a year ago. I would wonder if
the Bengals are interested in trying to bank on that
same light bulb clicking for Joseph Osaida, the motivation of
a one motivation of a one year deal that you
saw with Miles Murphy this year. The other interesting part
of that David Mulgett as his agent, and we know

(29:32):
that he and the Bengals don't get along when it
comes to contract negotiations, which makes me think if he
comes back, it would be similar to a year ago
and a one year proved deal to try to get
right back in there. But I also feel like Shamar
Stewart has a chance this offseason to get back into
being a football player. You went through the draft and
the process that happened. Now you know what it's like.

(29:56):
You don't have to deal with your contract. You're not
going to be holding out. It's all in front of you.
For Shamar Stewart, I hope the Bengals don't put all
their eggs in that basket because I think that would
be foolish and you would think that they've learned from
Miles Murphy. But I do think there will be more
production from whoever else is on the other side than
we got this year.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
I said on Sunday, and almost sometimes I feel like
I'm picking on him, But every time I watch Geno Stone,
I come to the conclusion I don't know that how
far back i'd have to go to dig into pro
football a focused great if they ever had them for
the history of the franchise. I feel pretty good believing
that Geno Stone might be turning in the worst individual

(30:35):
season performance of any player in the history of this franchise.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
He's just been a disaster. He's been a disaster.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
And Al Golden spoke glowingly of him yesterday, but I
think if you read through that a little bit, he
basically kept saying, Gino has been really good for us,
getting us in the right position and getting us in
the right play. That's the bare minimum of a safety.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (30:55):
You know why von Bell played as much as he
did last year because the other guys couldn't do that.
Vaughn was terrible once the snap happened, but he was
getting them in the right play. We're seeing the same
thing unfold with Geno Stone, and so you know, he's
on an expiring contract. He isn't played well, not the
last couple of weeks. He hasn't played well for the
last couple of years. So I don't know that there's

(31:16):
anything that happens over these last few games that make
you feel like, Okay, Genostone is a guy that's going
to be coming back to me.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
It almost felt yesterday like al was was throwing a
life preserver to one of his guys who's taking a
heavy attack under fire from the fan base. There there
was if you're out, there's no harm in saying something
he thinks he's doing positively. And at the same time,
you're never gonna bury the guy publicly, and you know
he's not gonna be here next year, so saying something

(31:45):
positive kind of changes the tone maybe a little bit,
and gives him a positive on the way out. Maybe
I'm reading too much into it, but clearly I don't
think anybody believes that that's an indicator they have fallen
in love with Genostone.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
He's going to be back next season.

Speaker 4 (31:59):
Well, I think what happened at the end of last
year he did play a little bit better, He tackled
a little bit better, and that, you know, made such
an impression on the Bengals that they asked him to
make a two million dollars pay cut, and he for
some reason obliged and decided to do that. But I
think it's interesting the comparison between the safety position and
the edge position, because I think Jordan battle could be
much like Miles Murphy, where he's a player who can

(32:20):
thrive when there's a better player on the other sides.
And we saw that a little bit in Jordan's rookie
year when Dax was playing okay at that position. Jordan
has had some moments this year where it's like, Okay,
there's still something there, there's still something that can be
unlocked with Jordan Battle. I think you make Murphy a
better player, and you make Battle a better player by
the two guys that are playing.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Next to him, no doubt, no doubt.

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Speaker 3 (34:11):
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(34:34):
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uc football in advance of the Liberty Bowl versus Navy
and Memphis on Friday. That would be from Bearcat Journal
Chad Brendle.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
How are you?

Speaker 5 (34:50):
I am pretty much entirely in the mode where I'm
just waiting to get to Memphis on Thursday and eat
Guts's fried chicken.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Yeah, nice, nice, all right, speaking of the bowl game.
The news of the day for the Bearcats, Evan Pryor,
the running back or average six point nine yards of
carried this year in rushing for over five hundred yards,
has entered the transfer portal.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Your reaction to the news of the day.

Speaker 5 (35:18):
Cincinnati has to be really smart with their money that
they don't have a lot of it. I think Evan
Pryor was, and probably rightfully so, looking for a you know,
this last year, looking for a big pay day. And
I think he's probably a running back two for Cincinnati

(35:38):
at least the way that they want to run the football.
They prefer Corey Kiner Tywie Walker type in that running
back one spot. It's probably that's for both parties if
they go their separate ways. But that's not to diminish
this was not Evan pryor wasn't good enough. Cincinnati is
moving on. Just in the new world of college football.

(36:02):
Financials play into it, maybe more than any of us
would like them to. But that's a factor you have to,
you know, put into the the mix for how these
things play out.

Speaker 4 (36:17):
When it comes to the money and being smart with
the money, how much of it do you think is
you know, saving up for having to invest in a
quarterback and the outrageous prices that college quarterbacks are going
for these days.

Speaker 5 (36:31):
I mean, there's some talk in a couple of articles
that have been coming out recently that you're talking like
a million and a half two million dollars for guys
that are backups. Wow, now they're probably good backups, you know,
like the kid at Ohio State who's almost won that
job the past two years. Try talking to a million

(36:52):
and a half two million dollars to get him to
get the kid from Notre Dame probably over a million dollars.
That was the backup there. I've heard I've heard anywhere
from four to six million dollars for Brendan Soursby.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 5 (37:10):
So we thought that the market would would calm down, right, Like, okay,
revenue shares here, the cap is in place, but for
positions like quarterback, you can round up nil money. That's
that's actual nil money that you know. These getting kids
are QB one are marketable and those those markets. Yeah,
and that money is not flowing down at all. So

(37:33):
you guys save you money for a quarterback often.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
So you Kegan, You guys, everybody at Bearcat Journal, you
guys are all over this and do it like nobody's
business keeping track of the portal?

Speaker 2 (37:44):
What going into the bowl game?

Speaker 3 (37:46):
How would you categorize the general shape of the roster
going into the bowl game based on everything that is transpired.

Speaker 5 (37:55):
Uh, not terrible, but certainly not what you want against Navy,
like in this era, the last thing you want to
see going into a bowl game as a service academy,
especially a good service accademy like this is a good
Navy team. They don't deal with opt oubts, they don't
deal with kids entering the transfer portal, like the team

(38:18):
that they had all season is going to be the
team that you play. I think there's a chance you're
going to see some true freshmen playing against Navy in
the defensive secondary, that that red shirted, that did not
play a snap all season, and you're going to probably
see a couple of them out there against Navy. That

(38:38):
is I classify that as less than ideal. Y, so
you know, it's it's not great, but I think offensively
they should still be fine. Most of the other offensive
line is going to be.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
There, Joe Royer's playing.

Speaker 5 (38:58):
My understanding is Cyrus Allen and Jeff Caldwell are gonna play.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Well.

Speaker 5 (39:05):
You know, Brady Lichtenberg is gonna Nobody deserves a shot
more than Brady Lichtenberg and he's gonna have most of
his weapons. So offensively they should be fine. But the
question is do we get to the end of the
game and you look and Navy's had forty five minutes
in time of possession and Cincinnati's had like fourteen and
a half.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
Are there any like is there a positive to having
some of those young guys play because they are likely
to come back next year?

Speaker 5 (39:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (39:34):
Is it just one game, and it doesn't matter that much,
like how is the staff viewing this game in terms
of like the development of those young players.

Speaker 5 (39:42):
You're gonna get to see what you've got with quite
a few of them. You know, it's not a normal
game situation playing Navy, but you're gonna have seen them
for the fifteen Bowl practices. You're gonna get to see
what they look like in the game. You're gonna see
how they take to the coaching. You know that there
are definitely some advantages on defense with getting a look

(40:04):
at these young guys right as the portal opens, so
you're gonna get a better idea of what you have.
You know, there's some guys that I think you know,
like CJ. Cright at safety is a name that they
really love, and I think you know, after red shirting

(40:25):
all year, you're gonna get a chance to see what
you've gotten in CJ.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Crite a little bit.

Speaker 5 (40:32):
You're gonna get to look at at Daniel Jones at
outside corner a little bit more frequently. There's a red
guy that red shirted this year named Patrick Williams, a
corner that they really like that you're gonna be able
to get a look at So it's gonna be beneficial
in you know, several of these instances where you don't
have to wait until spring, you know, to find out

(40:53):
what some of these guys are going to give you,
especially what are their practice habits, like how do they
handle going from you know, not playing a whole lot
to being thrown into the mix. So there is some
positive that can come from it. Again, the problem though,
is you're playing the triple option and Navy and I
don't know how much in the game you can take

(41:13):
from especially defensive backs. You're going to see how they tackle,
but I'm not going to get to see a whole
lot of coverage and you know, playing an advanced like
passing scheme by any stretch.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
All right, basketball question for you win over Lipscomb last night,
Now the Big Twelve with Houston on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
They play eighteen Big Twelve games.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
If I were to give you an over under on
Big Twelve wins for UC, if I just off the
top of my head said seven and a half, how
would you feel about that number?

Speaker 5 (41:48):
Well, if it was before Gigsel James came back, and
they have looked, especially offensively, significantly better with Gigsel James
on the floor. I would have laughed, taken under and
ran to the bank with whatever you allowed me to bet. Now,
now i'd say, now that's probably in the right realm.

(42:11):
Seven to eight. I mean, I still the offense has
just been so inconsistent that that I don't have a
great feeling that they get into that eight nine, ten
win range. Yet it has been better, but it was
so bad for the first ten games that that that

(42:31):
has not left my brain. So here's the other problem. Lance.
They played two seasons in the Big twelve. They won
seven games both times, one of them with a twenty
game schedule. Now they're going back to an eighteen game schedule.
I'd still probably take under, but at least I feel
a little bit better about things than I did two

(42:53):
weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
I wonder it yet, but I want you to know
you missed a golden opportunity in the last ninety seconds
to drop in a six seven and people would have
gone crazy.

Speaker 5 (43:03):
I could have, but they wore that out at the
game last night they had six seven games.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
Yes classic, I have a teenage daughter. I'm over Oh.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
Yes, for the kids, all right, map out the itinerary.
When when do you hit the road.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
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preview all the coverage coming up from Bearkay journal dot com.

Speaker 5 (43:26):
So we we. I hit the road Thursday morning, hopefully
by dinner Thursday night. I'm a Gussa's Fried Chicken. That's
the plan. Keegan and I will both be in Memphis,
and then Keegan, because he's just a warrior, is gonna
go back to the I got an Airbnb for both
of us. He's gonna go back and sleep until like

(43:47):
three four o'clock in the morning, and then he's gonna
get up and drive back to Cincinnati for the Houston game.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
Oh oh my gosh, cruel and unusual.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
How about that?

Speaker 5 (43:58):
I mean, you know I did that a lot of
that stuff back in when I was his age. Anymore,
I'm gonna stop in Nashville, watch the game in Nashville,
and I'll catch up later.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
Understood that To clarify, You're going to ride chicken place
instead of a barbecue place in Memphis?

Speaker 2 (44:16):
Is that right?

Speaker 5 (44:19):
Often? Gusses fried chicken is the best fried chicken I've
ever had. Okay, I'm just wondering, you know, I Mean,
it's so good it's become a national chain like they're
they're all over the place now, but one of the
original locations is in downtown Memphis. You now, people when
like Cincinnatians, when they leave Cincinnatian and then they come back,
they go to Skyline. Yes, like before they go home,

(44:42):
before they do anything, they go to Skyline. That is
me with guss Fried Chicken. Straight off the Expressway, straight
to Guss's Fried Chicken. I almost got an airbnb that
was a block from Gusses like that.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Probably have that idea.

Speaker 5 (45:00):
Oh no, that's probably a bad idea, so I didn't
do that. But yes, the fried chicken, the sides, everything
at Guss's is awesome. That's my go to spot in Memphis.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
The barbecue is good. I'm more of a Texas.

Speaker 5 (45:13):
Barbecue guy than a Memphis barbecue guy.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
All Right, safe travels, Happy New Year. This will not
be the last time we talk with you. It will
be the last segment on this show for the season
since we're done.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
And I say this every year.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
Your commitment, your unwavering support and commitment to this show
each week means a lot. It raises the level of
this show and we very much enjoy our conversations and
we look forward to doing it again next season.

Speaker 5 (45:39):
I always look forward to being on with you guys,
whatever night of the week.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
It is what the Bearcat Journal dot Com for it
all this weekend and beyond on YouTube as well.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
And thank you. Happy New Year.

Speaker 5 (45:53):
Thanks gentlemen, have a great new year.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
There you go, Chad Brendo, Bearcat Journal, Bearcat Journal dot Com.
Take a time out, come back. Something Dalton Reisner said
to Dan Horde I think is worth taking a listen
to and exploring. And then let's get into some roster breakdown.
Now we're toggles. I broke down these silly little categories
and then I just threw some names in each category.
And then I didn't look at it again, and then

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Speaker 2 (46:51):
Dalton Reisner was.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
Talking about Sunday's game with Dan postgame interview about the
game and the subject of his future came up.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
He's on a one year deal.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
And I thought it was an interesting public admission of
how he feels and what his hopes are and what
became the conversation between Dalton Reisner and Dan Horde. Take
a listen to part of that exchange on Sunday in
the locker room.

Speaker 6 (47:19):
This is kind of your opportunity to play with him, healthy,
looking good. I mean, what's that experience been like for you?

Speaker 2 (47:26):
He's an ultimate competitor.

Speaker 7 (47:27):
I really do love Joe the way that he goes
out there and slings the football and wants to win
football games, and how dialed he is.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
You can see why the Bengals are special.

Speaker 7 (47:35):
I mean you kind of just block your tailoff back
there and then you see the ball get thrown up
and he's just dropping it in buckets and hitting guys
right where they need to be hit. So love blocking
from the guy. I got a tremendous amount of respect
for him. You can see why he's had the success
that he's had here in Cincinnati, and.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
I just hope I could be a part of it
for longer.

Speaker 6 (47:53):
I would assume there's mutual interest in having your return
based on the way things are going.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
That would be great. Man, Keep pulling for me. Let's
get these guys to give me a call, man, I
kind of expect that that's going to happen.

Speaker 6 (48:04):
Congratulations on a great win today, two in a row
and finished the season with three.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Next week We'll do God bless you. Thanks Matt for it.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
Interesting comments after the game Dalton Reisner with Dan Horden,
and I think people forget Dalton Reisner was signed the
day that the final cutdown day August twenty eighth, and
ten days later played thirty six snaps in the opener
against the Cleveland Browns, and it was it was on
the flight and it was rushed, and he was a
little shaky early on, as you could understand. Eventually Jalen

(48:33):
Rivers took over there, and then Jalen, through rookie issues
and also some injuries, took a step out of that
spot and and Dalton Reisner back in. But man, he
has been this stretch to end the season. Dalton Reisner's
been really good, hasn't he.

Speaker 4 (48:48):
Yeah, And I think he's been the lynch pin into
fixing the offensive line. He's been consistent in the past game.
He's been consistent in the run game. And that's part
of the reason why Jalen Rivers got benched is he
wasn't very good, especially in the run game or especially
in the past game, and Reisner has just provided stability
to boast. We talked earlier about you know, guys around
you making them other players better. I think Ted Carris

(49:11):
has gotten better this year because Dylan Fairchild's been really
good and Dalton Reiser's been really good, and I think
that's made a Marius Mims better again. All together, that
offensive line working together, and I think you know, if
you follow Dalton and his wife on Twitter, they really
seem to like being here.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
And it's very rare you hear a player say that.

Speaker 4 (49:29):
What he did to Dan Horde, which is like, yeah,
keep helping me out. Give you guys to give me
a call, Like what more could you need if you're
the Bengals. I think some projectives have him at about
four and a half to five million dollars a year.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
I would do that. I would do that in a hartbeat.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
He'll be I think I looked it up. He'll be
thirty one next season. That's not old to me. You
know what you've got in him. He wants to be here,
and if you plug him in, maybe get him on one.
Maybe it has to be a two year deal, but
it would buy you some time with Jalen Rivers instead
of having to force Jalen Rivers back into the mix.
If you say, Jalen, just you know, cool, your jets,

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keep learning, keep improving. Your time will come. Maybe he
gets dinged up and Jalen replaces him in stretches next year.
But I don't see it downside. It's not gonna by
the numbers. It's not gonna break the bank. And if
you know what he's you know what he's giving you,
and you've seen the results, and it's as important as
the offensive line. I'm talking with Dalton Reiser about a deal.

Speaker 4 (50:28):
Yeah, and if you go into the offseason you already
know offensive line depth is something that has to be addressed. Yes,
And so if you can look at Jalen Rivers as
potential depth. Okay, we got a starter in Dalton Reisner.
Maybe Jalen Rivers can be the guy who's the swing
tackle at some point because Cody Ford has struggled at that.
It means obviously a great wide receiver, but he's struggled
a little bit at being the swing tackle. Offensive Line

(50:50):
depth is a need this offseason. You can cross off
one of the biggest issues with the signing of Dalton
Reisner at a relatively team friendly deal, And I just
I don't think you could afford to go into next
season if you don't re sign Reisner and just crossing
your fingers and hoping on Jalen Rivers. Yeah, they simply
can't afford that scenario with Joe Burrow as well as

(51:13):
they played collective as a you know, with Reisner, I
don't know how you'd sit there and roll that ice
say well, we'll take our chances with Jalen Rivers.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:20):
No, it would be foolish. Yeah, it's as simple as that.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
All right, let me lead into we'll do the first
level of this, then we'll transition after the news. But
I was put in together just a list of how
I feel about players going into next season, and I
just randomly picked categories in my top category would be
the guys I feel great about, then the guys I
feel really good about, then pretty good about, and then

(51:47):
okay with, and then have my doubts about, and then
I'm out on just randomly selected those categories who and
I've given you this list. I put four names in
the guys I would feel great right about without even blinking,
and those I think the first three at least are
fairly obvious Burrow, Chase Higgins, and I put Evan McPherson

(52:08):
in there. Are you okay with me putting Evan McPherson
among four that we feel great.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
About for next season? Yes, I am all right.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
When we come back, I'm gonna go to level two,
the guys we feel really good about.

Speaker 4 (52:21):
There's one person you have in really good about that
I think should be in that top two.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
Okay, that's good, And there is the longer I've looked
at this this week, and again I just threw names
into categories on Sunday and then forgot to go back
and maybe rearrange some names. But I'm interested in your
thoughts on level two as we continue. But we are perfectly.

Speaker 4 (52:40):
Positioned in situation situated to take a time out.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
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We'll continue on in our last segment with just a
general breakdown of how we feel about players. My level
one was great about, no questions whatsoever. That's Burrow, Chase Higgins,
and McPherson. Level two would be the guys we feel
really good about. Could I make one change before I
announce it, I'm gonna move Chase Brown up to my

(53:47):
great about category?

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Is that the one you were thinking about all right.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
In my really good about I had Chase Brown, Amarius Mimes,
DJ Turner, Dax Hill. I might move my Keasiki down. No,
I feel well, No, I'm undecided on Kasiki. What do
you think about that? Well, if you if you're undecided,
then you might move him down. You move him down to?
Okay with wouldn't you?

Speaker 2 (54:13):
You're under good?

Speaker 7 (54:14):
No?

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Pretty good of him? Okay, pretty good about it.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
It'll feel really good about him because of age and injury.
I feel pretty good about him. So I moved him
down one level, Okay, and you move Chase Brown up? Yeah,
I'm fine with that. For me, I would move a
Marius Mims up to that feel great about And I
know he's, you know, still relatively young. But think about it, Lance,
how bad did the offense look on Sunday against a

(54:37):
terrible Arizona team when a Marius.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Mims went out?

Speaker 4 (54:39):
That might be an indictment, an indictment on Cody Ford,
but maybe it's a reminder of how good a Marius
Mims is. And we never really said his name hardly
at all this season, And that's exactly what you want
out of your starting right tackle. And this dude has
already played more snaps in the NFL than he ever
did at the University of Georgia. He's still just twenty

(55:00):
three years old. He's a mountain of a man. He's
not gonna turn twenty four until midway through next season.
I think the Bengals, as much as we have criticized
them for their inability to draft, I think they hit
a home run on a Marius Mims and I feel
like he's the future at right tackle.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
All right, that's now, that's a worthy case being made.
How about level three? Pretty good about?

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Guys?

Speaker 3 (55:21):
Feel pretty good about? I put Miles Murphy there is that? Okay, Yeah,
that's good. I put Jordan Battle there. Sure feel pretty
and I think you made a great point earlier. I
feel even better with him if you got him a
really good safety to be back there with him. Dylan
Fairchild pretty good about.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Maybe might even might even move him.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
Up to really good about. No, I'll stay pretty good. Okay,
I feel pretty good. And then it probably a surprise
to you, Ryan Rico, Yeah, this I wanted to do
maybe the whole two hours about this. You called me
before the show a flip flopper because I had changed
my opinion on something, and now all of a sudden,
you want to speak, you know, positive things about Ryan Reco.

Speaker 4 (56:03):
Just settle down here for a second. And that's not
flip flopping.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
I always say I reserve the right to adjust an
opinion based on the evidence presented. And the evidence presented
the last couple of weeks is Ryan Rico is much
more than a just boot the heck out of it
and see where it lands. He was inside the twenty
all four times two weeks ago. Two those inside the ten,
and I think he had a kick inside the twenty

(56:28):
or maybe the ten. That's the only issue I ever
had with I get he's got.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
A really powerful leg.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
Leads the league, I think that, but he also led
the league in touchbacks, which kind of defeats the purpose
a lot. So because he's closed the gap of those deficiencies,
I'm willing to put him on.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
I feel pretty good about, okay.

Speaker 4 (56:47):
I'm just I'm glad that you're you have an open mind.
Some people choose to that's right, that's right, And I
was excited to see Ryan Rico rise through the ranks
up the pretty good about.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
He'll be excited to know too, guys. I feel okay
with okay. So again we've got great.

Speaker 4 (57:01):
About, really good about, pretty good about, and now I
feel okay about And I might underrate this dj Ivy.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
I might move him.

Speaker 4 (57:12):
Up a little bit. I might move him with pretty
good about. I mean, he seems to have found a
role and the way they're using him, and uh yeah,
I don't know if you saw Charlie Goldsmith's posts earlier
this week about dj Ivy, but basically, he's had something
like one hundred and seventy eight total snaps in his

(57:32):
career and allowed two first down catches and they were
both garbage time against the Miami Dolphins a couple of
weeks ago. And the way that he's specifically on third
downs has become a third down stopper ninety nine third
down snaps in the NFL forty nine this year. He's
never allowed a first down catch, and he was all
over Trey McBride on Sunday. He's just set the NFL

(57:53):
record for receptions by a tight end and he was
not targeted on those plays that dj Ivy was covering
in back to Trey Flowers when the Bengals were good
in twenty one and twenty two, having that guy to
be the tight end stopper. I do think although the
competition has not been great, Miami has a really good
tight end in Darren Waller. Arizona has maybe the best
tight end in the NFL. And and Trey McBride and

(58:15):
the Bengals limited the damage that those two guys did.
That's something to take away from these two wins. And
dj Ivy having a role in that I think is important.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
You know what I'm doing.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
I'm moving dj Ivy up to feel great about oh
after you said that.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
He goes all way up to the time, all the
way up to the time. All right, I'm moving stuff
around here as well. I've got to true sample. I'm
okay with yeah, just a guy.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
I've got Tanner Hudson, okay with I've got Josh Newton.
I'm okay with Josh Newton, Jaylen Davis. I want to
love even more, but I'm not prepared to move on
with the pretty good about.

Speaker 4 (58:46):
I'm okay with Jalen and that's okay to be okay.
I would move Jalen up to pretty good about okay.
He's one of the best tacklers on this defense. He's
shown the ability to play the slot in that nickel role,
especially with Dax Hill on the outside. Yep, I don't
know what took so long for Jayleen Davis from the
practice squad. I remember doing segments about him during the preseason,
talking about how this guy needs to be on the field,

(59:06):
and he never saw the field. And I think he's
really well respected in that locker.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
Room as well.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
I have set Johnson on that list, had a sack
with help from a nice pressure from Isaiah Foski on Sunday.
And then I've got you know, Will Wagner. Most people
don't even know who Will Wagner is. He's their snapper.
I've got Cody Ford okay with, maybe have my doubts. Well, no,
he gets okay with because he had the twenty one.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
Jewels.

Speaker 3 (59:28):
So there, you know what is As I'm doing all this,
you know who this list would drive have driven absolutely bonkers.
He would have lost his mind. I'd pay to be
able to go back in time and have this conversation
with Bob Trumpy when I created my own list, and
he would look at me and say.

Speaker 4 (59:47):
You you've clearly never played the game before. He'd loved
that card, and then he'd laugh and then he'd say,
this may be the most ridiculous list I have ever
seen put together. I think in this particular category and
the okay with, there are three guys that over the
last month have carved themselves out rolls for the twenty

(01:00:09):
twenty six Pagles. All right, dj Ivy as you mentioned,
Jalen Davis as we mentioned, and set Johnson as that
rotational pass rusher that can maybe come in on third
downs and maybe be on the inside, be on the outside,
move guys around. This dude was awesome at the end
of last year. He had that injury. At the beginning
of this year, he's already had an impact on that
defense and the limited snaps he's gotten.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
I like that dude. Guys.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
I have my doubts about Shamar Stewart certainly is that fair?
I have Barrett Carter, I have my doubts about him.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
I might be willing to move Dimitris Knight Junior up
to okay with, but I hesitate. I still have doubts
about him. I want to like him, but he's older
and he's come on late. I'm gonna leave him in.
I have my doubts about Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
I'm right there with you, I don't feel good about
either one of these linebackers. No matter what happens this
week or what's happened in the last three weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
They're gonna have to bring in it. And it can't
be a draftic. They're gonna have to spend money on
a veteran live back.

Speaker 4 (01:01:04):
I agree at least because even we had the conversation
earlier about TJ. Slayton, he's looked good the last two weeks.
These guys haven't like they really have. Demetrius Knight okay
against Ravens a few weeks ago, but Barrett Carter's still
getting shook out of his shoes, still in the wrong position,
not reading his keys, still falling behind guys. He just
doesn't seem like he's ready and this has all been

(01:01:24):
too much for him. But you're right that that position
needs veterans in it badly. I mean, obviously, Logan Wilson
is gone, a Keith Davis gather has gone. All those guys,
they need somebody that can show those dudes the row.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
I've got Yoshi in this list, have my doubts about it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:38):
I want to like it, and he drives me crazy
because he'll have a catch the in I say okay,
and then we'll have a drop and I'll say come on,
and it just it seems like that just rotates from
game to gabe, and that's too inconsistent for a guy
in his third season. With Jamar and t on the
outside and the coverages that they demand, You've got to
be able to win some one on ones if you're

(01:01:58):
andre O Savash and he doesn't do that enough. And
I know this would drive some Bengals fans crazy, but
one of my hot takes is if Carnell Tait's available at.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Number ten, number eleven, maybe number eight.

Speaker 4 (01:02:08):
If the Bengals lose, maybe you should take Carnell Tait
and put him in at that number three wide receiver.
If not, I think that's a position that you address
in free agency or in the draft.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
The Bengals are really good.

Speaker 4 (01:02:18):
At drafting receivers and give some challenges to Andre Jose Vash.
And I do wonder if Mitchell Tinsley comes back and
maybe has a full offseason, if that's more of a
camp battle next year.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
All right, in the interest of time, I'll move quickly.
The rest of my have my doubts about I've got
Orlando Brown Junior, Ted Carris and Charlie Jones fair.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
Yeah, three for three on that one, all right?

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
And then I'm out on and I hesitate now because
TJ had a good game and don't. I'm out on TJ.
They just need more in the interior and TJ Slaton's
not been enough, so I'm out on him. I'm out
on Oron Burks.

Speaker 4 (01:02:55):
Thought it was interesting Aaron Burks and Will played five
defensive snaps on Sunday and who am I blanking on?

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
Somebody else got sixteen?

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
A younger guy also on Specialty, Oh Giles, Joe J.
Giles Harris played sixteen defensive snaps, which is a career high.
I found that interesting. I'm out on McKinley Jackson, I'm
out on Chris Jenkins, and I'm out on Jake Browning.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
I agree with all of those, all right. What an
exercise we put together?

Speaker 5 (01:03:22):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
More rapid fire because they're free agents. Joseph O'SAI. We
don't believe fifteen million a year for him? Is that
what we concluded?

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
I don't think so, don't rise a yes, yes, Kam
Taylor Britt absolutely not. Did I see a projection of
Kam Taylor Britt somewhere in the neighborhood of fifteen million
a year.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
I think you did.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
Whoever pays Cam Taylor Britt fifteen million dollars a year,
God bless you.

Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
We had somebody today say move him to safety your thoughts.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
I would move him too safety for any other team
in the NFL, but I would move him off the
roster here.

Speaker 4 (01:03:55):
Uh no offense, eh kay, I depend on the money. Okay,
I'd be okay with that. Trey Henderson. No, Joe Flacco
I would love to have. I'll be curious to see
how he view what kind of opportunities he has, because
I'd love to have him.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Here is Joe's back up.

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
I wonder, in a day and age where young quarterbacks
aren't figuring things out, if somebody would give him a
starting job.

Speaker 4 (01:04:17):
The Philip Rivers effect, that Joe Flacco effect. Even what
we've seen from Kirk Cousins with the Falcons over the
last few games, there's gonna be a market for those
older quarterbacks. I would love to have Flacco back. It
feels like a bit of a long shot.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Cam sample. Uh, I'm good.

Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
Uh we answered the uh the stone question? You know
he's out cam Grandy Tinsley.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
I'm intrigued by Mitchell Tinsley.

Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
Okay, uh, Tyson Anderson special teamer. Clearly he's not. They
don't believe he's an answer in.

Speaker 4 (01:04:48):
The second Yeah, safety Robull caliber special teamer, but never
once got a chance on defense.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
I think that says a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
Lucas Patrick back his depth on the offensive line. Yes,
I would like see that Bolson I've brought about.

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
I completely forgot about Cordell Volson and Marcus Wilson depth.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
Surefied. If the money's right, I don't have any problem.

Speaker 4 (01:05:06):
I think this offseason we need to have more conversations
about depths.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
A great question about to have great depth? No question?

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Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
Holy cow, who are you rooting for?

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
I kind of default to rooting to rooting for anybody
that plays the Steelers. I just don't want the Steelers
to win the division, so I guess I'm rooting for Baltimore.

Speaker 4 (01:05:49):
I think it would be funny if Tyler Huntley played
really well and they win, and then Lamar comes back
to the playoffs and they lose.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
They lose.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
I think we've taken care of that set, so let's
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Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
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Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
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The only question I will pose from all of that
is how much would you, if at all, play Joe Burrow?

Speaker 4 (01:08:49):
Do you remember Joe Burrow's first ever preseason game against
the Miami Dolphins. He handed the ball off twice and
threw a smoke screen to Jamar Chase and he was done.
They should do the exact same thing on Sunday if
he if he is so adamant about playing, I don't
want him to play more than a series. I want
him to hand the ball on it as a preseason
treated as a preseason game. It felt like a preseason
game against Arizona yesterday or someday. That's how you got

(01:09:13):
to treat it as far as I'm concerned. Give Flacco
a chance, maybe get Browning a chance.

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
Yeah, I would be inclined to at the start of
the week, which was all I guess. Yesterday, I was thinking,
maybe the first half, turn it over to Joe Flacco
to face his former team. In the second half, I
might be understanding of a quarter with Joe or a
couple of.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
Drives, and then that's it. I just I've seen it
and it's not I've.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
Argued all along, players play, and I wanted Joe to
return to play.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
I agree.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
I think as well as he is played in this stretch,
it's almost like box checked.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
I'm good. I don't need to see anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
So if if you give me maybe a drive and
hand it off, I think I'd lean your way and
be good with it.

Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
I had the same thought earlier today. It's like, you've
proven what you've needed to prove. You came back, you
found a way to play, you gave it your all,
you rebounded from the awful game against the Ravens. Everybody
knows who you are and what this is supposed to
look like. You just can't risk with all the stuff
that has to happen this offseason, you can't risk doing
that again with an injured Joe Burrow. And I agree

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with you, players should play. I agree with all of that,
And it's just I also don't want Miles Garrett to
destroy him, to set the record and get that sack.
Rather that be against Joe Flaco or Jake Browning. And
I don't think Joe Burrow is gonna be Michael Strahan
to Brett Farv and just lay down for Miles Murphy
either or for Miles Garrett.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
And yeah, I've seen enough. I'm done. I'm good.

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Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
To wrap it up.

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That makes me very happy. I am honored. I'm excited
about that. So thank you guys for being back. And
that will lead us into our final thoughts in the
college football playoffs. Your Buckeyes will play tomorrow night, first
time in twenty five days. My goodness, Please condense this
schedule next season, get rid of buys, do whatever you
have to do, but I'll ask you again one week later.

(01:11:49):
How do you feel tomorrow night, when you're gonna be
banging pots and pans and eating Buckeyes. How do you
feel about your buck Eyes against the hurricane. I think
I feel a little bit better right now than I
did a week ago. I believe in Jeremiah Smith, I
believe in Matt Patricia. With twenty five days to prepare
in I guess twelve and a half days or whatever
it is to prepare for the Miami Hurricanes, I think

(01:12:12):
Ohio State has more talent than Miami has seen.

Speaker 4 (01:12:15):
At any point this season. I got the buck Eyes,
but I do think Miami covers. I think it's a
seven to ten point game.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
All right. You know what I would do?

Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
My final thought on all the college football I was
thinking about this because January twenty third is the deadline
to make their recommendation for what.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
They're gonna do next. I would do.

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
I would expand to sixteen teams. I get rid of
the buys, I get rid of conference championship games. I
do home field for the first round and the second round,
and that would squeeze. I would squeeze the schedule and
say nobody's going twenty six days be between all days,
because this thing is just dragged on, just dragged on.

Speaker 4 (01:12:52):
I don't love all that, but I can I can
get with it as long as we get rid of
automatic qualifiers as well.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
Yes, I mean as well.

Speaker 4 (01:13:00):
All right, we're I got Georgia, I got Alabama, I
got Texas Tech as well.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
Wait a minute, you're taking Alabama to be Joe Bonn Hills, Hoosier.
Give me the time you're out of here. I was
enjoying this until now. This was fun.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
Thank you for filling in for Rockets having Thank you
everybody for being a part of the show throughout the year.
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