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Speaker 3 (00:52):
All right, let's get too.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
At six oh seven on seven hundred wlwere at longneckt
In rich Wood, Lance Pacallister, Rock Depoytman. It's Thursday night.
It must be the Roundtable Show. Three hours to unfold.
We've got Bengals, We've got uc Bearcats. We've got some
high school football to get to. We have some fantasy
football to get to. A regular cast of characters along
the way, and so much to discuss, including as always,

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a giveaway this week, Rock we have one of these
fine Sean Volker prints that is a very cool Bengal
tiger print. We're gonna give away this week. Ask your
server as she walks around for a ticket, you'll sign
your name on the back.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Give it to her.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
We'll draw an eight. Got to be here at eight
to win. Someone's going home with the Sean Volker Bengal print.
We appreciate him sending that to us each and every
week to give away. We are creatures of habit and
our bodies are conditioned for Sunday Bengals football. You just
said it off air. It seems like the Bengals last
played like a month and a half ago.

Speaker 5 (01:49):
Yeah, yeah, a long time, but a fantastic game to
talk about. And we battled it around before a pregame
on the Thursday show, and I mean, what a great game.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
And now a sense of renewed juice and optimism and
if you continue to look at the AFC North and
look at the AFC picture, things are still in play
for this team. We teetered on the edge of maybe
trading away players, maybe starting to look at things for
next season, the draft, and now all of a sudden,

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through the power of Joe Flacco, this team has has
some hope and some optimism.

Speaker 5 (02:27):
And the Bengals did something they've traditionally not done.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Right.

Speaker 6 (02:31):
They go outside the organization.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
They make a in season trade that's happened a handful
of times in thirty forty years, and it's turned out
to be a great move, and it's it's really consolidated
this team. The belief is back, and yeah, we go
from we got to trade everybody way and get more
draft picks to maybe we got to make some trades
to you know, heighten this roster here moving forward.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
Let's take a look at some headlines and then we
will go. We start with the Bengals. They continue prep
for Sunday's matchup versus THEE to seven Jets.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Today.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Trey Hendrickson again limited in practice, but at least was
on the practice field again. Cam Sample limited today, Tanner
Hudson was a full go, Charlie Jones was a full go.
The news on the Jets side, this is rather significant.
Sauce Gardner did not practice again today. He's in concussion protocol.
Garrett Wilson did not practice.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Today with a knee.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
You could argue those are their two, if not their
two best, two of their three best players on the roster,
and neither practice for the second consecutive day. That'll be
very interesting to watch tomorrow with the injury designations with
practice the developing situation with the Bengals. Within the last
hour or so, Ben Baby of ESPN ESPN dot com

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is reporting that linebacker Logan Wilson has requested a trade.
Playing time has diminished over the last couple of weeks,
obviously with more snaps and opportunities given to Barrett Carter
and to Demetrius Night. Junior Logan Wilson wanting to play
more and not getting that opportunity here. We'd like to
do that someplace else. We'll get into the ramifications of

(04:09):
that and if it would make sense to deal Logan.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Wilson in a bit.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
Following a second reduction vote of candidates in the Pro
Football Hall of Fame Seniors category, thirty four players remain
under consideration for the class of twenty twenty six. They
include Ken Anderson, Lamar Parrish, and Isaac Curtis. Those three advancing.
The next countdown is to nine candidates in about a month.

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Ravens late this afternoon announced the signing of defensive end
Carl Lawson. The former Bengal had five sacks for the
Dallas Cowboys a year ago. Thursday Night Football Tonight, Vikings
are at the Chargers eight fifteen on Fox Sports thirteen
sixty U see takes on Baylor in a Saturday homecoming
matchup at Nippert Scott Saderfield. Named to the Dodd Trophy

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Midseason watch List, it is presented annually.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
To the nation's top coach.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
More of the bear Cats in about an hour from now,
when Chad Brundle checks in. Baseball will be the J's
and Dodgers in the World Series Game one Tomorrow night
from Toronto. Red Starred Basement key Brian Hayes wins the
twenty twenty five Fielding Bible Award at third base. The
award voted on by a panel of experts. They consider
statistical analysis, the eye test, and other factors they wish

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to utilize. The award given at each position. Today, Soccer
FC Cincinnati began work for its playoff opener Monday against
the Columbus Crew. MLS finalist for the year end awards
today include Evander for the MVP Award and Nick Hagland
for a Comeback Player of the Year award. In the NBA,

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you talk about a developing situation. We gotta find some
time for this later on Holy talk about tip of
the iceberg stuff. Portland Trailblazers head coach Chauncey Billups, Miami
heat guard Terry Rozier, and former Cavs player and assistant
Damon Jones arrested today in a wide ranging invent investigation
into illegal sports betting and rigged poker games backed by

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the mafia. The deeper you read into this and the
more details you read it is it's both wow, how
did that happen? And then there's also a thought of
will is anybody surprised that this has happened?

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Right? Sooner? Sooner?

Speaker 4 (06:20):
Yeah, we'll get into a little bit of that before
we're done. At Hockey Cyclones home against the Comments tomorrow night.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
It's Peanuts night.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
The Clones wear Peanuts Great Pumpkin jerseys for the game.
All right, Our our headlines are set. Our guest list
Tonight's Tonight Trags coming up at six twenty cl NS
Media at seven o six tonight. Chad Brendel, Bearcat Journal
seven p. Thirty six, Greg Shoemaker a circle four high
school football games.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
We will discuss it at seven fifty.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
Dan Klaskins as your fantasy football fix in and around
all that whole bunch of Bengals conversation. Let's get to
it as we continue with Trags. He's Rocky on Lance
again as your server. Cameron is our server tonight. Great
to see Cameron. As you see servers making their way around,
ask them for a ticket, sign your name, just need
your name, They'll take it, put it in the hopper,

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(08:12):
Roar podcast on YouTube. He's the man they call trags
Mike Petrellia, how are we doing tonight?

Speaker 7 (08:19):
And you know Rocky.

Speaker 8 (08:20):
Sometimes he'll text you and uh, the guy that's supposed
to show up at the right location shows up at
the wrong location, not saying that.

Speaker 7 (08:29):
Ever happen to me or anything.

Speaker 6 (08:32):
I still blame Lance, Mike. I still blame Lance, no
matter what.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
Is Mike, I wonder that Let's go yeah, yeah, let's uh,
let's go big picture first. Paint us a little picture,
give us a comparing contrast of just kind of the
mood of the vibe around this team. You're around him
every day from say two weeks ago to now with
the arrival of Joe Flacco, and how this team has
played since and and where things stand, well.

Speaker 7 (08:59):
That's a great question.

Speaker 9 (09:00):
Land.

Speaker 8 (09:00):
That is markedly different. It's markedly more positive. And the
word I would use is there's significantly more energy in
the locker room because I think the Bengals have been
interjected with the sense of hope that they have a
guy in Joe Placo who has a strong arm. He's

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won a Super Bowl, He's been through the riggers, He's
played as a starting quarterback, He's played on many teams
as a backup. He knows his role, and even as
a backup to Joe Burrow, he still has this calmness
about him and this leadership that he can provide, certainly
to the younger players. And I think that was great

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last week before the Pittsburgh game. But I think going
out and actually having the game Placo did, playing as
cleanly as he did, watching the offense perform so much
more efficiently, and getting to win in the closing seconds
gave this team the sense that, Okay, now we can
get back to where we were posts a pre Joe

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Burrow injury, and I think that, you know, the energy
and the hope are the two things that I've noticed
pick up over the last couple of weeks.

Speaker 5 (10:14):
And tracks to that note with Flacco come in and
everyone knows how beloved Joe Burrow is and how loved
he is in the locker room, and how the players,
how he reacts with them, how they react with to him.

Speaker 6 (10:26):
If you pick up on any similarities or differences between
Joe Burrow and Joe Flacco, just with how the players
view him or how he I guess it competes on
a day to day basis.

Speaker 8 (10:39):
That is a very difficult question to answer, Rocky, and
certainly Joe Flacco has been asked that question.

Speaker 7 (10:46):
We haven't had the chance to.

Speaker 8 (10:48):
Interview Joe Burrow yet since his injury, but.

Speaker 7 (10:51):
Joe Flacco and I asked him this yesterday.

Speaker 8 (10:55):
He is trying, I think, to give Joe Burrow his
space and let Joeoe Burrow talk when he wants to talk,
and not you know, step over any boundaries. And you know,
Jake Browning is a part of this equation as well,
because let's not forget after three starts, Jake Browning was
replaced by Joe Flacco when they went out and made

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the trade. So it's kind of an odd dynamic that's
going on. But I think again, Joe Flacco, being the
veteran he is, comes in, he's not stepping on any toes.
He's very respectful of everybody, and you know, he's not
trying to be Joe Burrow. He's not trying to do
what Joe Burrow did. He's trying to come in and

(11:38):
just run a very functional, highly functional offense with great
weapons around it, and make sure they perform to the
level they're capable of. But off the field, I think,
you know, the best way to put it with Joe Flacco,
I think is he's laying low and trying to let
you know everybody in the locker room come to him.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
As you talked with Dan Pitcher, Bengals up ense coordinator,
he is two years just over two years younger than
Joe Flacco. About Dan being able to pick up things
from from Joe Flacco and and how Dan thinks that
maybe even Joe Burrow could pick up things from Joe Flacco.

Speaker 8 (12:17):
Well, I think this is really about Joe Flacco. When
the play's not there, he gives up on it and says,
we're going to live to play another down. When Joe Burrow.

Speaker 7 (12:28):
Sees the play breakdown, I think one.

Speaker 8 (12:31):
Of the critiques of Joe Burrow, and Burrow has acknowledged
this himself. He tries to force the play into something productive.

Speaker 7 (12:39):
And I you know, I think one.

Speaker 10 (12:41):
Of the things that he's learned, even as a superstar.

Speaker 8 (12:43):
Quarterback that he is Burrow needs to more often live
to play another down. And on the play he got
hurt against the Jacksonville Jaguars. You know, Joe Sorry, Zach
Taylor and Dan Picture both of acknowledged he probably should
have given up on the plane, gotten rid of the ball,
but instead he held onto the ball and eventually, as

(13:06):
we know, got sacked and injured on the play injuring
his foot. And you know, that's one of the lessons
I think comes with time, even even Joe Burrow needs
to learn. And I think that's one of the things
that Dan Picture is learning from Joe Flacco is lived,
lived to play another down.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
And you make a great point, it's it's even less
about okay, you know, making a player, not making a play.

Speaker 6 (13:31):
It's about Joe Burrow's health.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
Give up on one and Zach Taylor or any football
coach in the NFL will say, you know what, we
rather have you be healthy then you you know, twirl
around and throw a past seventy five yards down the
field and we get a touchdown. They'll they'll give up
that touchdown or even that win to have a healthy
quarterback throughout the length this season, no question.

Speaker 8 (13:55):
And I think that's what the Bengals have to, you know,
get through to Joe Burrow, and Joe Burrow has to
be accepting of this. I think he will be. But
you know, Joe Burrow is a stubborn athlete, and I
mean that in the most positive sense. He wants to
make whatever is in front of him work.

Speaker 7 (14:15):
And he has that mind.

Speaker 8 (14:17):
You know, Rocky, he processes so much information that when
he processes that much information, he doesn't.

Speaker 7 (14:24):
Want to waste it.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
He wants to make use of it and.

Speaker 8 (14:27):
He wants to make something out of nothing. And Joe
Flacco's not like that. He is, Okay, if the play's
not there, I'm not going to force it. I'm going
to again live to play another down. And you know
that's the difference between the two quarterbacks. And I think
that I'm curious to see how Joe Burrow plays when
he returns, presumably in mid December, if the Bengals are

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A in it and B he's healthy enough to play.
I'm curious to see if we see some very subtle
nuance changes in the way Burrow a tax defenses.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
Trag's Jamar Chase continues to be must listen to every
Thursday when he holds court. Today, tell explain to listeners
what he said in terms of his rate on Joe
Burrow through this and what was his reaction to Joe
Flacco eating at restaurants by himself.

Speaker 8 (15:18):
Great, Okay, First of all, Jamar Chase ain't going out
to restaurants by himself.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
We learned that today.

Speaker 8 (15:26):
And if he devis and he's with Joe Flacco, he's
gonna pull Joe Flacco aside and say, hey, Joe, we're.

Speaker 7 (15:33):
Going in the back room.

Speaker 8 (15:34):
We're gonna get a private waiter or waitress and have
her or him or her serve us, and we're gonna
have a nice quiet meal alone. We don't need to
be out in public looking at other people. The thing
he said about Joe Burrow that was interesting Lance is
that he thinks that Joe Burrow is in a pretty

(15:55):
good space mentally, and I thought that was pretty telling.
He thinks that Joe Burrow's sporting the rock star hairdo.

Speaker 7 (16:04):
You know the hair over his face that we saw
before the Steeler game.

Speaker 8 (16:08):
That was pretty funny, but it's Jamar said it's hard
to read Burrows sometimes in terms of his mood, and
he tried to stay away from that as much as possible.
But what he did tell us is he thinks that
Burrows had a pretty good headspace.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
Shamar Stewart return from the ankle injury, didn't have a
game that caught your eye, certainly on Thursday night. Some
of that I would think rust of not playing for
a month either way. Yeah, they need more from him
on Sunday.

Speaker 8 (16:43):
Right, especially if they give Trey Hendrickson another week to
recuperate from the hip injury. They need Shamar Stewart to
be better, more impactful. He only played I believe, twenty
two snaps of the fifty eighth defensive snaps on Thursday
night against Pittsburgh, and to his own admission yesterday, he

(17:04):
said it was a sub far performance. I need to
be better, but I think I will be better once
I get more reps. He also said the ankle, any
ankle injury is a tricky thing because it can you know,
improve very quickly, but it can also you know, you know,

(17:24):
worsened very quickly if you don't treat it carefully, if
you don't listen to your body. So that's one thing
I think, you know, Tamar Stewart wants to go. I
think he wanted to get on the field against the
Steelers just to get the feel of playing game speed
again on the ankle. This week, I think Shamar Stewart
will be more of an impact and he should be

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against this Jets offensive line and against I'm going to
guess it's Justin Fields just because of his ability to
run the ball and what he did against the Bengals
in Week two of twenty twenty one.

Speaker 7 (17:58):
I think you know, the Jets are going to go
with Justin Fields. But we'll find out on Sunday.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
All Right, tregs for everybody wants to read, watch and
follow all you have that's all over Bengals coverage. Tell
them how they can go about doing that.

Speaker 8 (18:14):
Well, We're going to have a story up shortly tonight
about Josh Newton talking about DJ Turner's emergence this year
as a star cornerback in the NFL.

Speaker 7 (18:24):
We're also going to have a breakdown.

Speaker 8 (18:25):
Of the Logan Wilson trade demand that Ben Baby of
ESPN broke late this afternoon. We'll have that up on
Stealing s Sincy with a y dot com. You can
follow my Jamar Chase interviews from today's press conference on
Twitter at Trags tr Ags and as always the Jungle

(18:46):
War podcast page at YouTube YouTube.

Speaker 7 (18:49):
Dot com slash at Jungle Roar Pod.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
Always fantastic stuff, always good catching up. We'll talk again
next week.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Thank you.

Speaker 8 (18:58):
All right, gentlemen, take care Tanks Trags.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
He's the man we call Trags, Mike Petralia and that
is your look at the Bengals. Much more on Logan
Wilson and Joe Flacco and Moore as we continue, let's
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Our Ovation Standing Ovation to Jamar Chase, who turned it
in absolutely still hard to believe, incredible performance on Thursday
Night Football targeted what twenty three times twenty three best.

Speaker 6 (20:32):
It's everything I talk about all the time.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
Just kill the ball to your playmakers.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
Film sixteen catches, one hundred and sixty one yards a touchdown.
He wons AFC Offensive Player of the Week honors, and
I swear I thought at halftime he came out of
the locker room third quartery makes a catch right away,
and I'm thinking he's gonna get twenty catches.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Tonight they kept doing the same out to the sideline
and the Steeler just they had no ant. They just
kept letting him do it. They had no answer, no
adjustment to it.

Speaker 5 (20:58):
And in credit the Bengals four or if it's working,
keeping doing it. And I've always told you Lance, the
team that used to do that more than anybody that
I played, the Patriots, if they found a play that work,
would do it again and again and again and again
until you stopped it.

Speaker 6 (21:11):
And then once you adjusted, then they would go on
the next thing. So the guy him the ball in
multiple ways.

Speaker 5 (21:16):
As you know, I always say, if you're a coach
and you're standing up at the press box or press
conference after the game after a loss, you would much
rather say, you know what, we went to our best
players a lot tonight and they had an answer for it.

Speaker 6 (21:31):
Hats off to them.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (21:32):
And that's what the Bengals are doing.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
And Joe Flacco probably doesn't know the ins and outs
of every scheme and every call, but he knows that
number one is usually gonna be open and give him.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
The ball yep.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
And just keep taking what they're giving me. If they're
gonna give it to us, we'll just keep taking it.
He was asking. Charlie Goldsmith wrote a great piece this
week for Charlie's Chalkboard about how many catches Jamar Chase
might be able to get in a game.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
And Jamari even.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
Said today when he was asking about it, he thought,
he looked, paused, and he thought, eh, twenty six, and
then he said realistic. You know, seventeen eighteen a game.
And you know most people who would say that, you'd say, oh,
come on, but Jamar I I, it's really not. That's
not like a one time thing. He could do that.
He can make a run at those type of numbers
every week.

Speaker 5 (22:15):
It seems he's confident. He's so savvy. He's the best athlete.
But he's so savvy he can tell he knows the game.
He knows that the nuances of how to get open
and look.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
He's so dang strong. Once he catches it, he breaks
tackles like.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
A running back. I mean it's that.

Speaker 6 (22:32):
The power is incredible, absolutely incredible.

Speaker 5 (22:35):
Yeah, And look, is he gonna be able to turn
in fifteen plus catch games.

Speaker 6 (22:40):
Every single week? No, because defense are gonna counter.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
And then it's t Higgins who has a big game benefits,
or it's Chase Brown.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
The beauty of the offense.

Speaker 5 (22:49):
And every other weapon on that offense should be thrilled
about this because it's gonna happen. I mean, I guarantee
you Aaron Glenn is sitting in his house right now
for the Jets.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
One.

Speaker 5 (22:59):
Look, guys, I can sit here and watch number one
catch fifteen to twenty balls, all right, So do whatever
you gotta do to take him out of the game.

Speaker 6 (23:06):
And that showed up some other things.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
The other part of what unfolded on Thursday night that
allowed this to happen, or contributed to this happening. They
actually discovered a running game. They averaged six point two
yards of carry, Chase Brown averaged nine point eight. Those
numbers are unrealistic week to week, but just some semblance
of a running game makes the defense think instead of

(23:29):
just pass past past, thinking all right, they might run
and Chase Brown's rumbling for twenty seven yards for thirty
seven yards and gashing them. That's when your offense just
opens up and the playbook goes wide open.

Speaker 5 (23:39):
Well, it's funny because on the Thursday show you were
talking about, look, we should just abandon the run game,
and I was like, look, you gotta hang in there
with that thing. You can't just you can't just go
away from a run game takes some time to establish.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
I need to check the podcast.

Speaker 6 (23:54):
That was a great conversation about it.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
No, it was good.

Speaker 6 (23:57):
If you didn't hear, I was on the on the
you know.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
The you don't want to pound square pegs into round
holes if you're you're head into.

Speaker 6 (24:06):
The wall, just because of how they were built.

Speaker 5 (24:08):
But but look, I think what happened was, first of all,
and I found this out in every game I've played
in or called something works. I mean, it's still an
emotional game. It's still something that you feed and get
energy off of. Yes, So what was in that third
series Chase Brown breaks that one for twenty seven I
think everyone goes, I'm my god, we can't do this.

(24:28):
You know, the offensive line gets some juice behind him
say boy, let's pour them all.

Speaker 6 (24:31):
Let's do it again. So it has a tendency to snowball.

Speaker 5 (24:35):
And credit the Bengals and Zach Taylor for still leaning
on that as they got some momentum.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
The beneficiary of all this, of course, Joe Flacco, who
played very well on Thursday night and he has gone viral,
as they say, over the last day for his comments
yesterday that everybody's buzzing about and I figured, how can
we talk about it and not let you hear the
two minute exchange yesterday Joe who every time he talks,
I said, yesterd. The more he talks, the more fascinating

(25:02):
I find the guy because he is such a just
a sounds like such.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
A wise guy.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
Why is beyond his years even at age forty? And
he was asked innocently enough by Joe Daniman what it's
been like being here this quick change in life and
his family stayed behind in Cleveland, and and what it's
like being here on his own, and what it's like
being out eventually on his own. Listen to Joe Flacco

(25:29):
talking about how his life has changed as as quarterback,
husband and dad.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
Here's Joe Flacco from yesterday.

Speaker 11 (25:36):
The good thing, I guess you could say is that
I was in Cleveland by myself. You know, my family
was in New Jersey. We decided to do that this
year because last year we decided to do it the
other way, and this year we just said, hey, let's
keep the kids in their routine. And you know, see
how that goes. And there's been challenges with that. You know,
I love being there and around them and doing all
those things, but at the same time, like they get

(25:58):
in their routine and having a lot of fun back
at home. Early on in the season, they came out
to Cleveland and they're going to come out to this
week's game. And I think there's always a challenge of
sitting in a room by yourself and being lonely. So
for me, it's trying to find ways to maybe stay
over here a little bit longer and then you know,
just kind of take myself out of that mindset, call home,

(26:20):
go sit at a restaurant, buy myself and realize that, man,
that's pretty enjoyable to do. You know. After there's not
too many situations, I tell you, I tell people all
the time, I used to see guys sitting at a
bar by themselves, or you know, just sitting by themselves
eating and grabbing a little meal. And I'm like, man,
I feel so baded for that guy. You almost want
to go join them. And now I realize, like that

(26:42):
dude was in heaven. And not to say that that's
that's obviously not what I want.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
I'd rather.

Speaker 11 (26:51):
I'd rather be at home, sitting at the dinner table
with my kids and hearing what the hell they were
talking about all day. But there are but but if
you have to do it, then you might as well
take advantage of it. So, you know, just little things like.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
That, or Cincinnati and is starting to see you at
restaurants and take pictures and say.

Speaker 11 (27:06):
Hello, I guess so maybe a little bit. I try
to get there early, you know, I'll go eat the
four thirty dinner and and and and beat and beat
everybody up, beat everybody out out of work and out
of the house.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
Joe Flacco yesterday, two minutes that will live forever in
the minds of Bengal, so relatable on so many different levels.
Be it athlete, be it husband, be it dad, be
it just a human being.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
That was fantastic. That was fantastic.

Speaker 5 (27:32):
I mean, look, my especial vent my second half of
my years in the league, and I didn't have a
family and wife or kids or anything. But I was
on my own and there was a strange calmness of
being able to go eat, be by yourself, you know,
And and I would. I'm a routine guy, you know
that I would go to the same place on Thursday,

(27:54):
in the same place on Wednesday, the whole deal. But
uh yeah, I think he's he's embraced it. I'm sure
he misses his kids, but they also knows. Look, I'm
I'm here to do a job, and this is not
something that's gonna last a year or two years. This
is like another two month sort of thing. So I'm
gonna dial in and enjoy the quiet moments while I
can but focus on being a good player.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
You will.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
You travel every week for ESPN, What could we find
a spot of Rocky boyman sitting and eating and reflecting
on life by himself.

Speaker 5 (28:23):
We really, all you have to do is if you
find the nearest first watch in the town I'm in,
and you go there at what eight thirty am?

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Eight am?

Speaker 6 (28:33):
Because I get up, I work out, and I go
I find the first watch, I order the same thing.
You you will find me. That's where I will be.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
You are truly creature of habit. Looking up in the
dictionary see Rocky boyman, that is beautiful.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
Have you ever got? You know what I've done? I've got,
I will, and.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
I will do this several times. I'll go to a
baseball game, Reds game by myself. I like moving around that.
Not that I leave Kelly at home on purpose, but
if she wasn't around it, go to the game. I
like moving around and sitting in different spots in the
stadium all by myself to watch.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
I tried that, but i'd like to. If you've been
to a movie by yourself.

Speaker 6 (29:08):
That's what I was gonna say.

Speaker 5 (29:09):
I've done that a lot again, especially when in my
single days. Yeah, oh, there's oddly coming now.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
My friend Jack.

Speaker 6 (29:16):
Comes with me usually when I go to the movies,
But other than that.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
It's just me. You got a flask in your sock
or something?

Speaker 1 (29:22):
What are you?

Speaker 3 (29:22):
What are you talking about? Yes, you used to.

Speaker 6 (29:26):
That was my younger day.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
There are so many levels of you that either amuse me,
ancuse me, or really bother me.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Well continue, it's the Cincinnati.

Speaker 4 (29:38):
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Speaker 3 (30:40):
Attention to him. It was clean, smooth.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
We'll go with DJ Turner, whose interception heck of an
interception along the sidelines. I also think Genostone gets some
credit for delivering the hit which may have loosed him
that thing up, and DJ strips it away for an
incredible pick and gets his feet in upon review for
our defensive play of the game. While we're on the
defensive side of things. The news of the day, as

(31:03):
reported by Ben Baby of ESPN ESPN dot com, Logan
Wilson has requested a trade. I don't think anybody should
be could be surprised at this. He's a veteran, he's
a captain. He's been the starting linebacker for his time
here in Cincinnati, and the Bengals made a calculated move
to go younger at the position, and they are playing

(31:25):
two two rookie linebackers, and Barrett Carter and Dimitri's Night junior,
and Barrett Carter has replaced Logan Wilson. He's had some flashes,
he's also had some miss tackles. I think he's tied
for I think he's had at least three miss tackles
each of the last two weeks. But if your Logan will,
let's talk from Logan's perspective. You know how it is,
as you become a veteran later in your career, if

(31:47):
somebody takes away your playing time and you don't feel
like you're done, you want to play somewhere, so you
seek an opportunity or at least tell the team you'd
like to pursue an opportunity someplace else if you can
be trying.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
Look, everybody to some degree is looking out for themselves
in this deal, right, and Logan Wilson, I think has
earned the right to do that.

Speaker 6 (32:08):
Been a veteran, I'm sure.

Speaker 5 (32:10):
He saw what happened in the draft and kind of
got a little indication of what may be happening. I
think from his perspective, Although Bret Carter did lead the
Bengals and tackles on Thursday, I think he's looking just saying,
is there not a way to, you know, spell Barrett
Carter in a little bit and give him some packages

(32:30):
and still have me involved.

Speaker 6 (32:31):
I think it's the abruptness of.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
The very definitive instead of like rotation. It went straight
to Barrett's the starter on every snap, and Logan will
be worked in on some packages. And it just like
from zero to sixty five miles an hour, it happened.

Speaker 5 (32:47):
It's yeah, and again, having two rookie linebackers. I still
think even though yes, his production in the flash plays
are not there, I still think there's something about having
a veteran presence in that linebacking court. I mean, what
we you know, I remember just going back to my
Titans days. You know, Randall Godfrey was a linebacker, been
in the league a long time, and he would he

(33:08):
would play bass defense, you know, but when they would
go nickel or dime, or would go Tennessee package, I
would come in, you know that kind of thing. But
but you still had him out there and you're still involved.
And I felt like that was important. Yes, he was
not he was at a stage in his career where
he couldn't be out there every play. Sure, getting him
out there to some degree. I hope they find a
way to do it.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
And credit Logan Wilson, who when this became, this the
original news of Barrett taking his spot. Basically, Logan has
been very upfront and supportive of Barrett Carter in the
locker room. There's a clip of him, you know, with
his you know arm alongside Barrett Carter saying I'm here
for him to help in any way I can. Which

(33:50):
is the pro that Logan Wilson is. That's how he
carries himself. On the other side, if you're the organization
and right now they're backup linebackers beyond Logan Wilson, it's
or Burks and.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Shaka Heyward, that's it.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
And they've got another on the practice squad who nobody knows,
but organizationally, if I'm the Bengals, I'm saying, we understand
your frustration, but privately and publicly, you want the experience
of him.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
Depth is there is he in the NFL.

Speaker 6 (34:19):
There is absolutely no scenario where they are gonna grant
him a trade.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
That expose yourself.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
I mean, you leave yourself without a whole lot of depth,
counting on two rooking linebackers.

Speaker 5 (34:30):
That is the business, and it's the hard side of
the business. It It happens everybody to some degree. And yeah,
for him, they're not gonna trade him because, yes, something
happens in one of those two rookies which is.

Speaker 6 (34:40):
Likely going to happen in a seventeen game season.

Speaker 5 (34:43):
You want a guy in there that can go in
and play, knows the defense without getting a lot of
practice reps.

Speaker 6 (34:48):
That's a good point because the starters get.

Speaker 5 (34:50):
Most of the reps, but a backup comes in and
as she was, like, oh my god. But if it's
a guy like Logan Wilson, you know, and you're al Golden,
you say, okay, well he knows what to do.

Speaker 6 (35:00):
Here's just a matter of dorn it.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
How about this tweet from Charlie Goldsmith a few minutes ago.
He tweets when you bench a defensive captain and an
established starter during the season, you take a risk and
open yourself up to consequences like the Logan Wilson. Like
Logan Wilson requesting a trade, the Bengals bet on Barrett Carter.
The organizational decision to bench Wilson was surprising, and it

(35:24):
was clear at that time that it could have a
big ripple effect. Wilson was asked about his future with
the team in an interview right away whether there could
be more pressure on Carter now there's even more pressure
on the front office and coaching staff. They have to
have been right about the rookies for those consequences to
be worth it. I mean, they put their chips on

(35:45):
two rookie linebackers and said, go show us what you got.
And with that comes there's gonna be moments where you say,
that's why we drafted him. And there's gonna be moments
where Al Golden probably covers his eyes, going what were they.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Doing on that play?

Speaker 6 (35:58):
Right?

Speaker 4 (35:58):
And that's the reality of this situation, which is why
you and I were both on the side of let's
let's ease him in a little bit kind of thing.

Speaker 6 (36:06):
But I you know, for they have their reasons of
doing things.

Speaker 5 (36:09):
They want some more, some more splash plays out of
that group, so they're gonna throw him in the fire.

Speaker 6 (36:14):
I guess they're you know Al Golden.

Speaker 5 (36:15):
Saying the only way is gonna get experience is to
go in there and play.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
Yeah, it's the only way is gonna get better. All right,
we've put one in the books. Let's take a look
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homecoming matchup against the Baylor Bears. You talk about two
high scoring football teams. You see has averaging thirty six
points a game and conference play and Baylor's average at

(36:41):
thirty five. Two quarterbacks that can sling it seven twenty two.
A little bit more on the Bengals. A couple of
things that Charlie Goldsmith told me last night on Sports
Talk about the running game at about the youth on
the defense, and.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
About Cam Taylor.

Speaker 7 (36:53):
Brent.

Speaker 4 (36:53):
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Later on in the eight o'clock hour, we'll get into
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over the years. It is rather bleak what the Jets

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have tried at the quarterback position, I am in recent years.

Speaker 6 (37:19):
It's been a few names, yes, all of that.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
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Speaker 4 (38:25):
All right, here we go, second of three hours unfolding
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This is the hour we sprayed all fields. A little
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the Bengals in our next segment, and much more at
the eight o'clock hour, But without further ado, let's talk.

(38:47):
You see Bearcats number twenty one in the country, winners
of sixth straight, one of two unbeatens in the Big Twelve,
and at home at Knippert for homecoming on Saturday versus
the Baylor Bears. For more on that from bear Cat
Journal Chad Brendle.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
How are you?

Speaker 1 (39:04):
I'd like to request the trade.

Speaker 6 (39:08):
What franchise would you go to?

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Chad?

Speaker 1 (39:12):
Oh, I'm so when when Nick got hired at UCLA,
I got offered the site to be the publisher of
the UCLA site, but Kelly was sick at the time,
and Kelsey was little and I couldn't do it. So,
you know, give me another year or two and I'd
love to go back to la I lived out there
in my twenties and it was fabulous there.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
You go, very cool? All right?

Speaker 4 (39:34):
Uh, Since I'm gonna ask you, and we're gonna talk
a lot about offense, let me start with defense, because
you're the perfect person to ask this because you deal
with it every day. There is a there is a
a certain level of hand ringing within the fan base
with this bend, but don't break three three five defense?

Speaker 3 (39:50):
Is it?

Speaker 4 (39:51):
Is it nitpicky or is their merit to concern for
the defense?

Speaker 3 (39:55):
In your mind?

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Well, as a fan, it is incredibly annoying. Let's just
acknowledge that right out front. Like the other team, almost
every time they touch the ball gets into UC territory
to the thirty five to forty yard line, and then
some action happens. Then they start tightening up. They're getting,

(40:17):
you know, getting off the field on third and fourth down.
Although it feels like nobody's kicked a field goal against
Cincinnati all year, everybody goes for it. I think there's
they've played seven games. It's either twenty three or twenty
four fourth down attempts in seven games, which feels like
a ton. So I think that adds into it. The

(40:38):
main thing for me is are they keeping teams out
of the end zone? Are they limiting because the point
of playing this defense is to keep teams from getting
over the top of you, beating you deep. And really,
outside of the two plays against Kansas, they haven't given
up a ton of explosives. They have kept team games

(41:00):
in front of them, made teams work long drives down
the field, you know, and you're more likely at some
point in time to make a mistake when you have
to do that every series throughout a game. So in
that sense, it's working, but I get it. It drives
me nuts sometimes as I'm watching a game, like are
they ever going to get off? Like this offense is hot?

(41:21):
There have been two games where they you know, the
Iowa State game, in the UCF game, the other team
had the ball at the end of the half. The
other team had the ball at the start of the
second half, and they went over an hour without the
offense touching the ball. That is annoying, but the end
result is they are fifth in the Big Twelve in

(41:43):
points allowed, and that's the point. You're keeping the other
team off the scoreboard. Does it drive you crazy to
watch it? Is it viewer friendly?

Speaker 11 (41:55):
No?

Speaker 7 (41:55):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
But it's effective and with the talent that they have
right now, they're working with what they've got.

Speaker 5 (42:05):
And Chad, I'll tell you this just from talking with
defensive coordinators. You know for the last however many years.
You know, the guys they've been around a while used
to say or they would say, you know, you used
to you know kind of care how many yards you
gave up and what your passing yard was. And they're
like with with modern rules in modern offense, it's do
they score touchdowns?

Speaker 6 (42:25):
That that's all you care about, right, you know?

Speaker 5 (42:27):
The stats for these defensive coordator and the ones that
understand that and don't go crazy when oh my god,
we gave it four and fifty yards of offense. But
one the ones that don't go crazy on that are
the ones that are going to stick around for a while.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
And this is why this defense was designed. What people
forget or don't really consider. This defense was designed by
Matt Campbell and his staff at Iowa State that included
Tyson Bite. In a period of time where Big twelve,
almost every score was fifty six to three, you know,
and they had to come up. They came up with

(43:03):
something that they felt like would put an umbrella on
the other team's offense and limit the explosive plays, limit
the fifty sixty seventy yard touchdowns. And that's what's happened
in Iowa State has been the best defense in this
conference year over year for the better part of a
decade playing this defense because they don't let you put
points on the board. Cincinnati has played seven games. The

(43:28):
opponent has scored twenty or less in five of those
seven games. It's working. Now. You're playing better offenses coming
up down the stretch, so we'll see, But so far
it's working all right.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
On the offensive side.

Speaker 4 (43:41):
They have so many different weapons, and I was struck
by something Scott said and his coaches show this week
that they don't with all the weapons, they don't feel
the need to have to feed somebody to keep them happy.
That a Cyrus Allen can go from one catch for
I think minus three yards against UCF to three touchdowns
last week, and there's just that that general shared success

(44:05):
of those weapons on that offense.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Yeah, And I mean Rocky can probably speak to this
a lot better than me. When you go into a
team meeting and you're scouting the next opponent, the number
one thing is the previous game, right. Cyrus Allen was
teams at the beginning of the year. Coming into the year,
they bracketed Joe Royer because Joe Royer was the big
name returning guy. They bracketed him, tried to take him away,

(44:31):
and then other guys started having success, mainly Cyrus Allen.
So then team started saying, well, right, We're gonna roll
coverage to Cireus Allen now. Jeff Caldwell's open now, Noah
Jennings is open now, Caleb good is open now, Joe
Royer is back open again. And that's one of the
great parts about Sorsby is he does a really and

(44:51):
more importantly, maybe the offensive line because Sorsby is having
time back there to read the defense. I mean, you
go back to that third and sixteen that really kind
of put things on ice against Oklahoma States. Or he
said that was his third read, Jeff Caldwell over the
middle for six for thirty eight yards in a first down.
He doesn't get to a third read if he doesn't

(45:13):
have the time that the offensive line is giving him.
So it's a it's a multi faceted deal. And I
mean the twenty twenty one guys aren't going to be
happy with me, and we'll see how they finish, But
right now, I think this is the best offense I've
seen at U seasons two thousand and nine.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
Wow. Wow, big statement, Chad.

Speaker 5 (45:34):
Look, obviously this time of year, as you're getting into November,
health is a big part of this thing. You look
at the UC injury report, No injuries. They you know,
Corleone is back that had no real devastating injuries.

Speaker 6 (45:50):
How big of a factors I'm moving forward.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
It's a major factor. And it's a huge testament to
Nico palace Ati, the strengthen conditioning coach, to Aaron Henton,
who I've never been around someone better at their job
than Aaron Himler is at his He's phenomenal. And also
there's a reason you spend one hundred and fifty million
dollars on that training facility because those guys get to

(46:14):
get in there on Sunday and Monday and Tuesday and
they're in the recovery tubs, and they're they're in the
cryo chambers, and they're doing all the different things that
help guys rest and recover. So you're not playing on
lingering injuries as much as maybe you have been in
the past. I think it's been a huge factor, all
three of those things working in Unison to have gotten

(46:37):
them to this point. They're seven games in knock on Wood.
They haven't really dealt with it. A Ton.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
Baylor's offense productive, Baylor's quarterback dangerous. Tell Bearcat fans what
they need to know about that. Baylor offensive attack.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
Well, if you didn't like the defense giving up a
bunch of yards, might want to watch something else Saturday
at four, because Baylor's going to get a lot of yards.
But guess what, when you dig into the numbers, they
are not good scoring touchdowns in the red zone. And
that has been one of the strengths of Cincinnati's defense.

(47:18):
So keep an eye on that. If they don't, let
you know, they can keep Bailor from doing what Kansas
did and hitting a couple of those splash touchdowns. If
they can make them work all the way down the
field and get into the red zone and score, that's
been a strength of Cincinnatis. It's been a weakness of Bailors.

(47:40):
It also means the Baylor's going to chew up a
crap ton of yards between the twenties and you're probably
gonna want to pull your hair out. But that's where
Cincinnati can win this game. They kick a lot of
threes and leave points on the board when they do
get into the red zone because obviously the field shrinks
and now you've got eight guys in coverage and people

(48:02):
aren't running into open spaces, and you can make them
earn it a little bit more in the red zone
and Sawyer Robertson's not standing back there just picking you apart.
So that's going to be the interesting part for me.
But they've got a great quarterback, they've got really good
wide receivers, and the running game is okay. But they

(48:22):
run so many plays that they're still averaging one hundred
and forty yards a game on the ground, So you
can't forget about the run game. But they want to pass,
make no mistake. They want Robertson to stand back there
and throw the ball all day long. You just have
to make sure it's for ten fifteen yards, not forty fifty.

Speaker 4 (48:42):
Last question, it's got to be about hoops. And as
much as I learned my license last year of not
putting much stock in exhibition games, after what they did do,
Ohiowa State, give me a takeaway, Just something that jumped
out at you.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
In the win over Michigan last week, I was.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Really impressed with there's two trueman and a redshair freshman.
I was really impressed with how they handled the atmosphere. Shawnabajev,
keish On Tillery, Tyler McKinley. I thought all three looked
like they belonged the other big thing for me, and
those three were a part of it. There were moments
that different guys took over and had their little window.

(49:19):
They had their period. It was Boba Miller early and
Shaunabiev right before halftime, and Dayde Thomas towards the end,
and Kurt Curse. They hit a couple of big shots.
We talked at nauseum last year about that team just
failed to have others step up. Felt like every game
there was one guy that was playing well, one guy
was playing okay, and then like seven guys that couldn't

(49:41):
Tyler Shoe and Chew Gum at the same time. This
team needs three for I mean, there were six guys
and double figures against you know, a Michigan team that's
gonna be really good. Nobody's good at defense right now.
They're not where they need to be yet. But I
thought a lot better about the number of guys that
have the ability to step up and have those four

(50:02):
or five minute stretches where they're playing really well.

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Nickolson been kicking butt this week, and while I'm thinking
of it, congratulations on the the five hundredth edition of
the Bearcat Journal podcast last night.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
That's a lot of Dave Simone and I talking like
I is. MA. Thank you, thank you for all the
people that have listened. But my god, what are you
doing with your life? Kegan? I missed being in my
early twenties. Lance, I sent Keegan to Kansas City. So
he's driving sending to Kansas City for Basketball Media Days.

(50:41):
He left Basketball Media Days today when to Sayetville, Arkansas.
He'll be there for the UC Arkansas exhibition tomorrow night
and then he's got roughly sixteen hours to make the
ten hour drive back to Cincinnati. He said his goal
is to be in his seat at four o'clock for homecoming.

Speaker 4 (51:00):
Holy cow man again, no doubt about that, no doubt
he is. Chad Brendel, Bearcat Journal, Bearcat Journal dot Com. Yes,
finish your thought up.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Sorry, go and support Keagan. He's working his butt off,
no doubt, no doubt.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
Thank you, Sarah. We'll talk next week.

Speaker 7 (51:21):
Thanks gentlemen, appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (51:23):
Chack Brendel, Bearcat Journal, Bearcat Journal dot Com. Up next,
a little bit of what Charlie Goldsmith told me last
night on Sports Talk about this Bengals run game, the
decision to go with you from the defensive side of things,
and thoughts on what has happened to Cam Taylor Britt.
That is all ahead, He's Rocky, I'm Lance. It's Long
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from mark. Let's get into a couple of things that
Charlie Goldsmith told me last night for Charlie's Chalkboard on

(52:51):
SportsTalk that caught my ear, including the run game, which
has been much discussed and lacking up until Thursday night.
Did they unlock something they can replicate going forward or
was it more a matchup based results on a really
bad Steeler defense It appeared on Thursday.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
Here's what Charlie said about the run game.

Speaker 12 (53:15):
Well, as long as Chase Brown has a quarterback who
can functionally run the offense and make defenses, you know,
play certain coverages and do this and that schematically, then yeah,
I think Chase Brown is a guy who's more than
talented enough to break a lot of tackles, to break
off one or two big runs a game. It's those
explosive that really rack up the average, and that's just

(53:36):
who Chase is when it's any sort of functional offense.
I think it wasn't even anything schematic. I just think
by having Flaco, Chase Brown gets to be insult again.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
Charlie Goldsmith, and he used the term functional offense twice,
which clearly is in relation to it was not a
functional offense with Jake Browning and with the presence of
Joe Flacco. It commands some attention re spec from a
defense that you've got somebody who it just opens up
the playbook to run the ball and to throw the
ball there. There was no threat offered by Jake Browning.

Speaker 5 (54:10):
Well, look, let's be clear that the best thing that's
gonna help this run game is Jamar Chase getting fifteen
sixteen catches a game, yep, because teams are not gonna
allow that to happen. We can, they absolutely can't. So
when more attention goes there, that's gonna open up some
things for the run. I don't think you disagree. This
is not a line that's built to run the football.

(54:32):
This is a line that's built to pass protect for
Joe Burrow to put the ball in the air fifty
times a game. Right And now we're in a different situation.
So that's always been my point. It's hard to ask
them to do something to have an identity that's not them.
With that said, you know, you've got to have some
semblance of balance, of course, but yeah, if you keep

(54:52):
feeding that ball to Jamar Chase in the past game
that they have no choice but to apply some resources
to try to mitigate that, that's gonna open up the
ring game.

Speaker 4 (55:00):
Charlie wrote a great piece as well about how this
defense has gone young, and I asked him last night,
I said, when you make a decision to go young
on that side of the ball, it feels more like
something we talked about this last week last Thursday when
we were together, feels like something more a rebuilding team
would do a commitment to youth and we'll take our
bumps and bruises and lumps and they're going to get

(55:21):
better more so than a team in contention that maybe
can't afford some of the mistakes that might come with youth.
And I asked him, I said, is the decision to
go young on defense? Is that more indicative of the
youth they have or is it more of a statement
about the veterans who aren't delivering for this team?

Speaker 3 (55:36):
Here's Charlie.

Speaker 12 (55:37):
Yeah, if they wanted to, they could be starting Logan Wilson,
Orn Burke's you know, Cam Taylor Britt the fourth year veteran.
They could be starting all of these older players, some
of the veterans, you know, you look at Kim, you
look at Geno Stone. I think Logan Wilson has been fined,
but put them in this group as well. Just have regress.
And that's concerning for a defense that was counting on
some semblance of veteran president to lead an otherwise young

(56:01):
unit through the highs and the lows, because you know
Barret Carter, Demetrius Knight, Josh Newton, Les Murphy, Samar Stewart,
who by the way, played a very poor game against
the Steeler that hasn't been talked much.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
About, but he kind of.

Speaker 12 (56:14):
Quietly got his role reduced significantly, not quite benched, but
that happened with Samorrow over the course of the game.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
Like that's life.

Speaker 12 (56:22):
When you're playing that many young players, it's about what
you expect. So there should be a lot of attention
on man, these veterans are letting the defense down significantly
because those are the guys you thought you'd be.

Speaker 6 (56:33):
Able to count on.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
That's a powerful last statement.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
I think it is worth spending some time on because
we've talked about it. You have to, especially when you're
spending so much on your Big Three, you have to
hit on your draft, and they're just guys on that
side of the ball, top one hundred draft picks who
just haven't been what the Bengals have needed them to be.

Speaker 6 (56:54):
You could argue that's the single biggest problem with this Yes,
in this organization, Yes, last five years.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
Or beyond forever.

Speaker 5 (57:01):
Yes, Yeah, it's it's the inability to nail some of
those draft picks to way some of the teams that
are perennially in the court and in the Super Bowl
conversation that they draft, well, they develop, they keep those guys.
But to me, the simple answer for why they're going
younger on defense is one where speed, speed absolutely kills

(57:24):
you have to have it out there, especially in today's NFL.
It's a space game, and they don't think that the
veteran guys Logan Wilson, you've mentioned many times Lance right
about how he just kind.

Speaker 6 (57:34):
Of lumbers around.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (57:36):
It's I think that's the risk Rewards are saying, Okay,
we're gonna give up a little bit of knowledge here,
but we've got guys that are flying around. Speed creates chaos, right,
It creates havoc. Plays and interceptions and fumbles and and
and the big plays. That kind of thing. That's why
those guys are out there.

Speaker 4 (57:54):
Cam Tayler Britt is a guy they spent a second
round pick on. It look like he might be emerging
into a core piece. Yesterday he was reduced to special
teams work in practice. I asked Charlie what he sees
in the fall off of Cam Taylor Britt.

Speaker 12 (58:08):
It's just a massive organizational loss. I don't expect the
Bengals to, you know, be in the divisional round this year.
Maybe they do it for a comes back, but these
are the types of developments that cost you divisional AFC
championship games. When you have a guy who's supposed to
be a corner giving you a matchup advantage against Josh
Allen and it turns out doesn't even have a place

(58:29):
on the field, it reminds me of a pitcher who
just can't find the strike zone and the way that
that leads to an individual. I don't want to use
the word spiring, but snowballing would be the word I'm
going for, because then you start trying to do so
much and Camp it's just been such a hyper active
player as opposed to just locking in on the fundamentals,

(58:50):
the detail he's trying to seuse another baseball analogy. You know,
hit an eight run homer when he steps up to
the plate, and then when he's over ten, he's trying
to hit a sixteen run home and he keeps digging
and digging and digging that hole. And you know now
today he's working on special teams. I mean, this is
seemingly how it's going to be with him going forward.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
What a fall for camp Taylor brand. It's amazing.

Speaker 6 (59:16):
I mean early in his career, I mean there.

Speaker 4 (59:18):
Was talking, oh, he'll get in a big extension and
this is a breakout year to the Pro Bowl and
he's a.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
Second round pick.

Speaker 4 (59:25):
Second round pick. Yeah, unbelievable. All right, we've reached the
bottom of the are perfectly timed. How about some high
school football. We've got four we'll put on the docket
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Speaker 7 (01:00:03):
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Speaker 4 (01:00:03):
You're going to pick up a very cool Bengals print.
We'll draw that again in twenty four minutes. He's rocky.
I'm Lance. Let's talk some high school football. You are
our next guest on Friday Nights with the award winning
high School Football Tonight's Show on ESPN fifteen thirty and
Fox Sports thirteen sixty. I read hum at Tri statefootball
dot Com. Always a pleasure to welcome in. Greg Shoemaker,

(01:00:26):
how are you.

Speaker 9 (01:00:29):
I'm doing good, guys.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
What a great weekend.

Speaker 9 (01:00:31):
Week ten of the regular season in Ohio. First weekend
in the playoffs in Indiana this weekend, two weeks left
in the regular season. In Kentucky. It's it's go time
right now for sure for a lot of teams.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
No doubt about it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
Let's get into the first of four games. Let's start
with Winton Woods at Lebanon playoff positioning on the line,
and Winton Woods got a little bit of a boost
of the running game last week as well.

Speaker 9 (01:00:58):
Yeah, they really did. So the cool thing about this
game is the winner has put themselves well. Actually, if
Lebanon wins this game, they will get a first round
by in Division one Region two. If went Woods wins,
they will get a first round by in Division one
Region four, but that's only if Mohler loses. So winn

(01:01:20):
Woods is already secured to top eight spot in a
home game in the playoffs. If Lebanon loses, they could
still finish in the top four spot, but they could
also finish as low as number ten in Region two
in the rankings. So a lot on the line here
that said, Like you were talking about, Lance, went Woods
got his running game a boost last week when Isaiah

(01:01:42):
Garrett came back for the first time this season. The
junior ram for eighty four yards and a touchdown on
fifteen carries. Last season to in the year, he ran
four straight games of one hundred and ten yards or
more and five times in the last six contests he
did the same thing. And then he been off all
this season and it's went in their their their quarterback

(01:02:04):
Bryce Seawan browns led them and rushing with three hundred
and ninety six yards this season, so to get him back.
And this time of year when as you're looking at
it tonight, the weather's changing and it's football weather, and
you better be able to run the football in the
end of November and into October. That said, Lebanon quarterback
Luke Saylor has thrown for nineteen touchdowns and over his

(01:02:26):
last five starts, he's got three receivers with at least
six touchdown catches on the year. And if Lebanon wants
to stay in this game at home, they're gonna have
to get some unconventional, unconventional points and they've done that
this year with five pick six is on their eleven
interceptions for the season.

Speaker 5 (01:02:45):
All right, Greg West versus East in Lakota, how about this?
And how fitting Tom Bolden going for his career win
two hundred in a rivalry game.

Speaker 6 (01:02:58):
This should be a great one.

Speaker 9 (01:03:00):
Yeah, And I just want to I want to give
Tom Bolden a bit of love here. Like you said,
Rockie's going for his two houndred career win. He has
one ninety nine and thirty seven in his nineteen seasons
as a head coach, and by the way, Rock one
of the third of those losses order your saying nux bombers,
which is so so Bolden's fifteen and oh all the

(01:03:25):
time versus Lakota East, including a six and oh mark
against UH uh East as the Firebirds head coach, and
uh even even so, once you got to UH West
this this past six years ago, they'd have been great.
Uh in October under Bolden having won twenty consecutive football

(01:03:45):
games dating all the way back to twenty twenty and
again a loss in the regional championship to Saint Xavier.
But yeah, I mean he's been fantastic and I hope
he gets that wins and Mara it'd be a great
thing for for in that rivalry game like that. So
both teams are in the playoffs. Neither one can get
a first round by but they I'm for sure that

(01:04:08):
West has a home game in Week two of the tournaments.
So now we've been talking about the weather. West has
only had five hundred and fifty five yards rushing in
the first seven games of the year. They have since
run for four hundred and forty five in the last
two games, So it's very interesting. And the funny part

(01:04:29):
about this is East has had a bad time against
teams that can run the football with bigger lines. They're
allowing two hundred and five yards of game rushing, five
point six yards of carry, and have given up twenty
one touchdowns on the ground. So they have to do
a good job at trying to stop the run in
this one if they want to stay in this game.
That said, their secondary has been outstanding with ten interceptions

(01:04:50):
this year, returning four of them for pick six. Is
and not only that, in their ten interceptions, they've massed
three hundred and fifty six yards of returning yard, So
you know, over a nine game period, that's like fifty
sixty yards a game just in return yards. So I mean,
they're they're amazing there. The one thing that what East

(01:05:11):
will have to do to stay in this ballgame is
run the football themselves and Rter Hooks, their senior running back.
He's he's their all time leading rusher at East and
he's having a great senior years. He's run for fourteen
hundred yards, he's everage and one hundred and sixty yards
rushing per game, two hundred and thirty of all purpose
yards per game, and on defense he has twenty four tackles,

(01:05:33):
five pass breakups, two picks, sixes, and is tied for
the league lead with four interceptions. So I'm telling you
right now, if he's he he may be one of
our candidates for Ohio Mister Football coming out of Southwest Ohio,
especially if they win this game. So it's it's that's
an interesting game. And the only other dichotomy of this

(01:05:53):
game that I really feel pretty cool about is Isla
Cody East. They're they're only giving up for Lakona West
has only given up eighty three yards a game passing
and uh uh, just four touchdown passes on the year.
So again, in a game that needs to run, this
could be it for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
All right.

Speaker 4 (01:06:11):
Speaking of playoff implications, Fairfield and Oak Kills winner in
and loser has to hope.

Speaker 7 (01:06:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:06:20):
Absolutely, And we're gonna have Fairfield coach Justin Roaden on
in the pregame show tomorrow on High School Football tonight,
and he was the head coach at Oak Hill's the
previous five years, and we've had nothing but great things
to say about these kids at Oak Hills and and
their banks out Fairfield is. And I think both these teams,

(01:06:40):
like both coaches feel like if we can get into
the playoffs, an extra week of play a play is
going to help us in miss Lee and it'll be
like a good thing. And uh, they need that extra
that week of practice and it's you know, it's a
win for both teams. Who was sure everyone gets.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
In and uh okay.

Speaker 9 (01:07:00):
Senior wide receiver Aaron McFarlane who came from Taylor. He
has one hundred and ninety career receptions, more than thirty
three hundred yards receiving in his career. That puts him
only twenty six players in Ohio have had two hundred
receptions in their career and he's only one of only
nineteen players in the state of Ohio with thirty three
hundred yards in his career receiving. So great career for him,

(01:07:22):
look for him. I hope he gets to continue on
that path to greatness. And then freshman running back at
Fairfield Coorious Booker. He spit in the GMC with five
hundred and seventy one yards rushing. Very very impressive to
be a freshman and have that kind of stats in
the GMC.

Speaker 5 (01:07:40):
All right, Greg williams Berg who is undefeated at Bethel Tate.
And I don't know if I could love this anymore.
Bethel Tate started the year zero to five, have rattled
off four straight and now have a chance to get
in the I guess the SBAAC national title.

Speaker 9 (01:07:57):
Yes, yeah, they're close, and Rocky, you hit everything on
the right here. Williamsburg has never finished a regular season
ten and oh. The program went twenty six oh and
one from nineteen seventy one to nineteen seventy three. They
only played nine games in the regular season that year, so.

Speaker 10 (01:08:14):
It's a very very cool thing.

Speaker 9 (01:08:16):
If they could get there. However, two years ago, Williamsburg
was sitting at eight and oh and in this same game,
Bethel Tate beat them twenty two to twenty at Bethel Tate.
And the ironic thing about this is Williamsburg's senior wide
receiver Troy Harris was the star for Bethel Tate in
that game with six receptions for one hundred and thirteen yards,

(01:08:38):
a touchdown, eight solo tackles in an interception. Last year,
he transferred to Williamsburg, where to get avenged the loss.
He ran for one hundred and thirteen yards on six
carries on ten carries, had an eighty five yard kickoff
retree for a touchdown and an interceptions as Wildcats beat
Bethel Tate last year. So if Williamsburg who is this game,

(01:09:01):
they might have to call this and here says another
good game, they might have to call this the Harris
Cup by me every year. This is something else and
he could be three in this game over the next
three years. But it's a good, fun small school game
to follow. Both great implications and both both teams had
a great run this year for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:09:21):
All Right, lay out things listeners and readers can't expect
as we move into the weekend and look forward to
the High School Football Tonight show Tomorrow night.

Speaker 9 (01:09:31):
Yeah, high School Football Tonight is on Fox Sports thirteen
sixty in ESPN fifteen thirty tomorrow from six to eight pm.
No Saint Xavier games this Friday or next Friday, so
both weeks will be on from sixty eight this week
on boat channels. Next week just on Fox thirteen to sixty.
Like I said, we'll have justin roadan head coach of
Okhills on with us there. We'll also have the head

(01:09:54):
coach went Woods Chaff Murphy's joining us, Dan Court from
Boom County is joining us. Kyle Hogan from Saint Bernardo
in One Place will be joining us. They play on
Saturday day, have one eighth straight game. He'll be fun
to talk to as well, So listen to that, and
then after the game, go to Tri statefootball dot com
the Underground sports Shop scoreboard. We'll have all the scores
for you. We'll have highlights, recaps, all kinds of.

Speaker 7 (01:10:17):
Great stuff for you.

Speaker 9 (01:10:18):
Or a Tri State Football Tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (01:10:20):
Night excellent as always, look forward to it. Thank you
for the time. We'll talk next week.

Speaker 9 (01:10:26):
Sounds good, guys. It'll be a fun one playoff start
next week.

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
Yeah, Greig, Thanks Greg, We got it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:33):
Greg Schumaker high School Football tonight, tri statefootball dot Com.
What do you say we take a time out of
continue up next, Let's offer up some fantasy football advice.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
For that, we'll turn to Dan Klaskins.

Speaker 4 (01:10:45):
We are rolling through a Thursday night, hanging at it
long next in Richwood. We'll do our drawing in about
thirteen minutes of cool Bengals print to give away eight
o'clock hour. We'll get back into the Bengals look ahead
to the matchup against the Jets, we'll do a hot
topic around the NFL, might have to expanded to the
hot topic around sports, what's going on with the NBA
and the gambling investigation today and more.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
We'll travel Rockies Road as well. Oh, I can't wait.

Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
I want, I want you to tell me the story
of Delaware and Joe Flacco later on if we do that.
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powered by Dope Sheldon round Table Show. We're at Long
Next In in Richwood, presented by Postman Law, Lance McAllister
and Rocky Boyman. It is time for our Fantasy football segment,
Week number six. Our next guest, our weekly guest is
host of Fantastics Insider Football series XM Fantasy.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
Let's welcome in, Dan Klaskins. How are you.

Speaker 13 (01:11:59):
What's up doing tonight?

Speaker 4 (01:12:01):
We are good, ready to go. Big weekend coming up,
and let's get to it. Because last week we looked
at some players to target in trade, So let's look
this week at some guys that you might consider selling
high on.

Speaker 13 (01:12:15):
Yeah no, doubt about it. Trade deadlines coming up in
many leagues. First and foremost, let's be sure we know
when our league's trade deadline is. I'm in a lot
of leagues, but none of the trade deadlines are the same,
so you know, don't wait till the last minute. Always
you sort of get out in front of that. But
if you are in the market some players you might
want to shop right now, and we do like to

(01:12:36):
sell Highlands. It's harder to get much higher than Aaron
Rodgers with his value currently, and I think we all
tell what he put out there last week because that
was actually a second four touchdown performance of the season.
I gotta admit it's gone better from a fantasy perspective,
I was expected because for passing game. That said, I
am concerned with the schedule that Eliza ahead.

Speaker 7 (01:12:56):
I don't know if it's going to be able.

Speaker 13 (01:12:58):
To be contained, and we know when it gets to
the summer, I'm expecting Pittsburgh is.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
Going to want to run football.

Speaker 13 (01:13:02):
So Rogers, especially in Superplex League, is probably very marketable
right now and somebody you should consider. You should also
take a look at Bears running back Dedre Swift for
many of the same reasons.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
Now.

Speaker 13 (01:13:13):
The volume has been his best friend and he's getting
a ton of carries, but it's also leading to a
lot of the yards. Back to back under yard games
scored a touchdown with that last week. He take twenty
plus PPR points down in his last two. That said,
I'm still not sold on the efficiency overall. I do
think the schedules had something to do with the shout outings,

(01:13:33):
and with a lot of limited options out there, I
would definitely consider moving along from there. Elsewhere we've got
at the wide receiver position. AJ Brown, he's been at
disappointment most of the season. Finally got out of that
funk edd at the entire Eagles passing game a week ago,
so I likely will look to him. And then finally

(01:13:55):
Travis Kelsey.

Speaker 7 (01:13:56):
I mean, he hasn't really.

Speaker 13 (01:13:57):
Been red hot, but coming off a pretty strong perform
Rman's there the returner Rashie right, I am a bit
concerned about his target volume. I do think it's more
the names more valuable than is actually production at this point,
so now still a good time to shopping.

Speaker 6 (01:14:12):
Of course, many injuries just the time of the year here, Dan,
But let's talk specifically before you get into the others
about Lamar Jackson and Jayden Daniels.

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
Yeah, Rockey, you're absolutely right.

Speaker 7 (01:14:25):
Those quarterbacks.

Speaker 13 (01:14:26):
I mean, those are injuries not just to those players
but all the pieces around them. We've seen what that's
been like in Baltimore in recent weeks. But they're offense
but coming out of there by looking pretty good.

Speaker 7 (01:14:37):
Here.

Speaker 13 (01:14:38):
Lamar Jackson practicing is trending in the right direction with
the hamstring, So based off of everything we're seeing right now,
we're optimistic there. We can't be equally optimistic though, for
Jaydon Daniels, he's already been ruled out for Monday's affair
in Kansas City. Marcus Mariota will start there versus Chiefs,
So good news is the MRI doesn't look like it's

(01:15:00):
a long term injury here, but it's already the second
time the second year quarterback's been shelf this season with
growing concerns around his durability, which is partly his style.
Will play Brice Young, another quarterback. He's technically listed day
to day, but both I think that red rifle was
going to get to Paul here versus Buffalo. All expectations
are Andy Galton to start for the Panthers young to

(01:15:22):
miss at least one week. We'll see out Friday trends tonight.
Let's talk about tonight, though, because there is a big
news here. Within the last hour or so, the Vikings
have officially activated running back Aaron Jones off injured reserve.
He missed the last four games with the hamstring issue
in his assen seort. Mason's averaged six and a half

(01:15:43):
touches for seventy five point three yards per scrimmage and
scoring four rushing touchdowns, and now the return of Jones
just sort of cloudy out a little bit. I still
think Mason's a nice back end RB two. I did
like him over Jones based on their ADP in the preseason,
but I will expect Jones to get involved, and I
especially in the passing games.

Speaker 7 (01:16:01):
I'm not real.

Speaker 13 (01:16:02):
I'd probably wait and see before I take him in
the lineup. But with six teams on by this week
by mcgeddon is struck, we're seeing a lot of desperate moves.
So if you need Jones, you can plug him in.

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
Receivers are always.

Speaker 7 (01:16:14):
The big names. Every week, I give you guys another
wide receiver.

Speaker 13 (01:16:17):
One that is not in action this week. I expect
that to be Mike Collins or excuse me, Nico Collins
with his concussion he suffered. Is you had to even
clear any type of things in barring a miracle, he's
out this week and how likely for the rest of
the season. Mike Evan with coller bone issue, actually got
concuss and broke as Cayler bone on the same play
in the early Monday night game here in week seven.

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And then Bucky Irving Chris Godwin, they're not going to
return this week to Bucks with to buy next week
they'll get that extra time, but Baker Mayfield Company will
be limited in their resources once again this time around.

Speaker 7 (01:16:50):
And then we can't.

Speaker 13 (01:16:51):
Talk to injuries without what's going on here in Cincinnati
because the opponent, the Jets, already a pretty terrible team.
We don't know who the quarterbacks going to this week,
but their two best fantasy assets not named Breezaw Garrick
Wilson and Mason Taylor now looking doubtful for at least
ify here as we head towards Friday's practice. Wilson I'm

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a little less optimistic on he's been hurt all week
with the knee issue. Mason Taylor just added to the
injury report today, did not practice, and most of the
beat writer's stuff I'm seeing come out of New York
says he actually suffered a quad injuror yesterday, so the
young tight end could be out of action. Speaking of
tight ends, the comeback story of Danner Waller may have
hit an abrupt pology here. He's been placed on IR

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with the tech issue pectoral and an oblique issue. Dalton
and Cage been battling, but he is limited in practice
and could return this week, although they may not need
him versus the Panthers.

Speaker 4 (01:17:43):
All right, how about our weekly lineup advice? Give me
some studs, duds and slippers.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
Well, I mean quinz.

Speaker 13 (01:17:49):
John Jenkins has emerged as the best fantasy running back
this season for sure, and at least in fantasy football.
Love what we're seeing at the goal line work here
the matchup this week, first New England. I'm not really
worried about the russ defense. I am worried about game
script though if the Browns get behind, that could hurt it.
But I've still got him in my side, my top
ten and Drake London. I mean, he has really been

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underrated coming on of late Michael Pennix junior back at practice,
so he's trending in the right direction. They get Miami,
I think quit on every day. I got Drake London
at my wide receiver three this week, so absolutely fire
up on him on the dud side of a Dj
Moore Atlances. You'd like to say the back of a
baseball card. I mean that's what Dj Moore basically is
in fantasy. He gets five targets every week for three

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catches in about forty yards and he's about a fifty
to fifty back for a touchdown. Again with six teams
on by, I've got him in a flex spot this week,
not crazy about it. He's dealing with the hip issue
as well, but he's outside my top thirty receivers and
Teja Hopkins are playing tonight tight n seventeen on my
board here for week number seven. It's been a very
disappointing season for him. A lot of that has to

(01:18:56):
do with the quarterback play. So barring a touchdown tonight,
he's not going to have a big stat line.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
And a couple of sleepers.

Speaker 13 (01:19:02):
I mean, yeah, I'm in Joe Black. I excite this
all been in fantasy He's actually a viable starting option
this week, especially again with the six teams on by
when you got to March, Chase and T Higgins, that's
good enough against the Jets to the q QB fifteen
and now Rookie I was really high on coming in
the season's been slow to start, but starting to get
going now. I think he's going to get going the
best this week whereus the Bear's R. J. Harvey sneaks

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into my top twenty five and certainly a good flex
stoption for just about any for me.

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Let's do it again next week.

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Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
Thanks Dan, you as well.

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look forward to being back here again soon. He's Rocky
Boyman on Lance mc allister. We have been here, there
and everywhere in our first two hours. We've got Bengals
and Jets to get back to. In this hour, while
I'm thinking about it and looking at him, we have
a really cool guest special listener who has joined us
from Australia. I wrote down Scott, I hope it is
it's Scott.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
It is Scott.

Speaker 4 (01:22:09):
Okay, because I wrote it on social media Steve and
I said, way, I'm an idiot. I wrote down Scott,
and then I confused myself, but it's Scott. Final answer
is Scott. I get very confused. Scott is from Australia,
part of Bengals fans down Under and listens to the
podcast in Australia. He's here in town for the weekend.
He's going to the game on Sunday. How cool is that.

Speaker 5 (01:22:28):
They listened to two podcasts Bengals related and on Monday.

Speaker 4 (01:22:33):
Absolutely very cool, very cool. So welcome and thank you
for stopping by tonight. AND's saying hi. All right, let's
get into Bengals and Jets. Jets are oh and seven?
Rock and Rich Semini covers the Jets for ESPN, and
he was on with Dan and Lap last night on
the Bengals PEP Rally Show or Bengals game Plan Show.

(01:22:55):
There's so many different Bengals shows. I can't keep it straight.
On the game Plan Show and they asked Rich Jets
team is oh and seven? Are they that bad? Are
they truly an oh and seven football team? Here's what
he said.

Speaker 14 (01:23:07):
That's a fascinating question because if you look at their roster,
they do have some very good players. I mean, we've
talked about them, Garrett Wilson and Breeze Hall. And their
offensive line has a couple of good players, and Sauce
Gardner and Quinton Williams and Jamien Sherwood's a good linebacker.
The two edge rushers, Johnson and McDonald. So they have

(01:23:27):
good players. They just haven't put it together, which is
just the sign of a bad team. Like I said,
the defense has played well the last two weeks. The
special teams have played well the last couple of weeks.
Their punter a guy who was in Cincinnati, Austin McNamara.
He's one of the best punters in the league right now.
And Nick Folk is a terrific kicker.

Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
So they have some.

Speaker 14 (01:23:49):
Components of a winning team, but it just never shows
up on the same Sunday. And they might go out
Sunday and their offense might put up like twenty eight
points and.

Speaker 10 (01:24:02):
The defense will just have a bad day.

Speaker 14 (01:24:04):
It's been that kind of year for the Jets, So
I understand what the Bengals are coming from. Zach Taylor's
probably like selling the Jets. This is not an O seventeen,
but they are zero to seven for a reason. They
just selling it destruct and too many self inflicted bots.

Speaker 4 (01:24:20):
I thought it was interesting Rock how Zach put it
yesterday he was asking about the importance of this stretch
three straight at home Steelers followed by the Jets, followed
by the Bears, and the idea of getting to five
and four at the buy and Zach's response was, it's
not a stretch. It's a game. It's this game on Sunday.
It can't be three games, it can't be playoffs. It's

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one game. And it's the classic cliche one game at
a time. But that holds true. You can't as much
as last week was perhaps a must win game, this
is a must win game. You can't take a step
forward by beating the Steelers then take two steps back
by losing home to the Jets.

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:24:58):
Look, I mean for a play it's hard to wrap
your head around seventeen games. I'll never forget. And when
I was with the Colts' sit next to Dan Klecko
and we sitting in the meeting, and there'd be the
like the board of like the games, and you know,
win losses and all the stats, and there's just all
these helmets, like seemingly like a hundred of them. And

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if you look at that board, You're like, oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:25:21):
How do we win? Like how do we do this?
For the you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (01:25:24):
But if you break it down into seventeen one game season,
you can wrap your head around that. But to go
out there and all the things that go into play
in all those games and the ups and the downs
and what do we gotta do, it's just overwhelming focus
on a one game season.

Speaker 4 (01:25:40):
They're zero to seven, and compounding issues for the Jets,
two of their best players didn't practice again today. Sauce Gardner,
the fine former UC Bearcat defensive back, and also Garrett Wilson,
the Ohio state wide receiver, missed his first game of
his young career last week. Within the issue, they didn't
practice yesterday, neither practice today. Last night rich on Bengals

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Game Plan talked about injuries to those two players.

Speaker 10 (01:26:07):
I think, pound for pound.

Speaker 14 (01:26:09):
Quinn Williams is their best defensive player. You know, he's
a former first team All Pro. Now, sauce Gardner gets
a lot of the accolades, but I do not believe
sauce Gardner will play in this team on Sunday.

Speaker 10 (01:26:20):
He's in the concussion protocol and.

Speaker 14 (01:26:22):
So offensively, Garrett Wilson, I do believe is probably their
best offensive player.

Speaker 10 (01:26:28):
Now there's a good chance he may not play in
this game.

Speaker 3 (01:26:31):
He did not.

Speaker 14 (01:26:31):
Practice again today. He's dealing with the knee injury that
kept him out on Sunday. They're saying day to day. However,
I am a little skeptical.

Speaker 3 (01:26:40):
About his chances.

Speaker 14 (01:26:41):
The Jets have the bye week right after Cincinnati, so
I think there's a sense in the organization that hey,
we'll just let him sit out this game and then
have him come out of the bye week feeling one
hundred percent. So yeah, that's you know, a Sauce Gardner
and Garrett Wilson, of two of their best.

Speaker 10 (01:26:56):
Players aren't there. It's going to be tough for them.

Speaker 4 (01:26:58):
On Sunday, the ESPN, who covers the Jets, now, he
was asked and it's been a circus this week from
the quarterback standpoint, and Justin Fields was bench last week.
Tyrod Taylor went in the owner Woody Johnson made his
comments towards Justin Fields, and you know, when your quarterback
paraphrasing plays the way he does, you understand the record.

(01:27:18):
It would help if we could complete a pass and
which which publicly then created then you imagine the feeding
frenzy in New York when the owner says that Rich
was asked last night, all things considered with this team,
do the issues begin with the quarterback?

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
Here's what he said.

Speaker 14 (01:27:33):
Well, if you asked the owner, Woody Johnson, he would
say it's the quarterback play.

Speaker 10 (01:27:37):
He basically creat justin field under the bus.

Speaker 14 (01:27:40):
Yesterday when we approached him at the league meetings, he
you know, he just really dumped on on Fields, which
I mean what he said was not untrue.

Speaker 10 (01:27:50):
I mean, Fields is not having a good year. This
team has gone.

Speaker 14 (01:27:53):
They've only scored six touchdowns in the last six games,
and so they are really really he's probably offensively, so yeah,
I would say quarterback plays a big.

Speaker 3 (01:28:03):
Part of it.

Speaker 14 (01:28:04):
But early in the year, for the first five games,
the defense was horrible. I mean they were giving up
over thirty points a game. So they've been taking turns,
which I think bad teams usually do. And now the
defense has settled down. The defense has actually played two
good games in a row against Carolina and Denver. But
now the offense can't get it out of its own way.

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Two streat games without a touchdown. But I would say
quarterback play is a big part of the issue, which
is why I believe Justin Gills is probably going to
the bench.

Speaker 7 (01:28:35):
Rock.

Speaker 4 (01:28:35):
If you don't have a quarterback, you're gonna have major
problems in this league. That's not breaking news. And this
Jets rundown of quarterbacks I looked at They've had six
different quarterback start games in the last two and a
half years. They've had fourteen different quarterbacks start games in
the last ten years. How about these names going back
to twenty sixteen, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Bryce Petty, Gino Smith, Josh McCown,

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Sam Darnold, Luke Falk, Joe Flacco, Trevor Simeon, Mike White,
Tim Boyle, Aaron Rodgers, Justin Fields, tyrod Taylor.

Speaker 3 (01:29:08):
You're not gonna win when it's a musical chairs like.

Speaker 5 (01:29:10):
That, which again makes it all the more Glennon howlten.
Do we talk about with the Bengals just getting the
gift of Joe Burrow and not being able to protect
the investment because you got a franchise that is just
searching high and low to try to find that guy.
Haven't found him in over ten years, Maybe haven't found

(01:29:30):
him since Vinny testaverdie or you know, maybe that one
year Farv was there, maybe Paynington, but but yeah, but yeah,
it's tough when you're cycling through quarterbacks seemingly a year
in year out.

Speaker 4 (01:29:42):
One name to keep an ear out for an eye
out for this weekend is Brice Hall. They're running back
who averages four and a half yards of carre's rushed
for almost five hundred yards. He's been a threat in
the passing game out of the backfield in recent years,
not as much this year. Rich I mean, he talked
about that aspect of their offense.

Speaker 14 (01:30:03):
They don't use him enough in the passing game. It's
kind of been one of the mysteries here. I think
he's such a good receiver. A couple of years ago
he had seventy five catches and he led all running backs,
And now they don't really use him that much. They
Jets do not throw screen passes to the running backs,
which is always another mystery. It would be a great
way to slow down a good pass rushing team, and

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yet they.

Speaker 10 (01:30:25):
Don't really do that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:27):
But they do have a good running game.

Speaker 14 (01:30:28):
Their entire offense is built on being a good running team.
Now when they have justin fields in there in Week one,
they look dynamic against Pittsburgh with fields running some zone
reads and some RPOs, Breeze Hall running out of the
backfield of Braylan Allen. It's like, my gosh, this looks
like a pretty good offense. But they've never been able

(01:30:50):
to recapture what they had in Week one.

Speaker 10 (01:30:52):
I think teams.

Speaker 14 (01:30:53):
Adjusted to what they've been doing and stopping them on
first and second down, and when you get them in
third and long, it just not equipped to be a
third and long type passing team.

Speaker 4 (01:31:04):
Rock you had, I know you've had Matt Campbell and
Iowa staated a couple of times over the years. Did
you have Bresee Hall, it would be a dynamic here's
go Yeah, Yeah, great player.

Speaker 5 (01:31:13):
Yeah and like I said, even in college, was really
good on the backfield, but kind of probably goes back
to the quarterback situation, no doubt.

Speaker 4 (01:31:20):
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Speaker 3 (01:31:56):
Since twenty eighteen.

Speaker 4 (01:31:59):
We'll see if lamar x in plays. Right now the
Ravens odds Ravens are one and five. Ravens have better
odds to make the playoffs than the Bengals right now.
I find that very interesting. At one in five they
still have better odds. The fact that the fact remaining schedule,
stuff like like that, I would think, but it's it

(01:32:19):
is a little odd. The Bengals are certainly not in
as deeply into the picture as you would like. I
think they're ninth in the seventeen pecking order. The Ravens
are thirteenth and yet to have better odds to find
a way to get in. The two and five Browns
are at the five and two Patriots. Patriots won four
in a row last week. Now, I'm I'm blanking.

Speaker 3 (01:32:43):
On his name.

Speaker 4 (01:32:44):
The Patriots quarterback may Drake. May Drake May went twenty
one of twenty three, twenty one of twenty three, a
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Night four and two.

Speaker 6 (01:32:56):
Did you say as the franchise record?

Speaker 7 (01:32:58):
Yes?

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Speaker 3 (01:33:21):
That is our look at the AFC North.

Speaker 4 (01:33:23):
When we come back, we usually call it our hot
topic around the NFL? Can we can we cheat a
little bit and expanded it and call it the hot
topic around sports today? With what is transpiring that every
league is probably looking at thinking, oh, man, are we
okay in our league? Is this gonna happen in our league?
Can we get into the Oh yeah, exactly right? And

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we got mafia stuff and X ray insider trading information
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(01:34:35):
even sure we're to begin with this story. It's pretty
The more I read, the more incredible becomes. Thirty four
individuals arrested part of a major investigation involving insider sports
betting and ragged illegal poker games. The headliners of this
the head coach of the Portland Trailblazers, former NBA star

(01:34:57):
Chauncey Billups, Miami heat guard Terry Rozier, former NBA player
and NBA assistant Damon Jones. The cliff Notes version of this,
the insider betting involved those individuals defrauding people for over
a two year period based on betting information they were
getting from insider information from NBA players and teams, non

(01:35:18):
public information that they were then using on who was
going to set out future games, who with leap games
early based on injuries or illness that was used for
betting purposes at least once. Those involved in the arrest
allegedly got their information by threatening John tay Porter, who
was a Toronto raptor in twenty twenty three and twenty

(01:35:39):
twenty four when he was banned by the NBA for
violating policies. They threatened him because of his pre existing
gambling debts. We need information from you to bet on
other games because you owe us money. There's also the
reaged illegal poker games that fleeced victims of millions of dollars,
backed by the mafia, the Banana, the Gambino, and the

(01:36:02):
Jen Jenna Jenna BCI organized crime families that had control
over these and were using According to the reports, Chauncey Billups,
the head coach of the Portland Drama Blazers, as the
face of these illegal gambling rings to attract players to
the table.

Speaker 3 (01:36:18):
I mean, you can't. This is like a movie.

Speaker 6 (01:36:20):
It's like they're separate but still intertwined. Yes.

Speaker 5 (01:36:23):
Yes, because Chauncey Billups was involved in both ends and
bost angles of it.

Speaker 6 (01:36:27):
Here's what I can't understand. So Rozier has made one
hundred and sixty million dollars, looked it up in his
NBA career, and he's and he's doing this.

Speaker 4 (01:36:39):
Why yeah, I and I run through the scenarios in
my head, and I could, I could kind of understand
if you were a player or someone like him. You think, man,
there are so many opportunities gambling wise today. And I
see things and I hear things, and I ought to
be able to take that and.

Speaker 3 (01:37:00):
Turn it into information or pass it on to a front.

Speaker 4 (01:37:03):
And as I said, what what is staggering to me
among many things in here, just from the the sports
gambling betting on game standpoint, if it is so closely
monitored now, and I guess the good is in this
coming out is it's because it's legal and above ground,
it's monitors and there's spotlights on it, and when suspicious

(01:37:25):
activity takes place, red flags go up and flash. And
that's how stuff like this gets identified. If back in
the day it was back alleys and barroom corners and
it was bags of cash and baseball bats to your knees,
at least it's exposed and monitored. So if you make
a transaction that's suspicious, it's going to pop up. If
somebody tries to, you know, drop twenty five thousand on

(01:37:47):
a prop bed, if somebody scoring x amount of points
or somebody free throws, that is going to pop up
as something's up here and yet it's still being done.

Speaker 5 (01:37:57):
That's the thing is that if you had the discipline
and to just bet in a mound that didn't attract, yes,
you could probably keep doing this forever if you could
be happy with a thousand.

Speaker 6 (01:38:08):
But it's only human nature to go yeah, it'd be
and you.

Speaker 5 (01:38:12):
Know what, and you probably do that for a couple
of times, ten times, and you're like, well, wait a minute.
You start looking at like, I'm not, you know, lose,
I'm not winning a thousand, I'm losing ten thousand because
it could be better better.

Speaker 4 (01:38:25):
Now, now, explain that you were showing me the video
the illegal poker games. I mean, you talk about high
tech and what they're doing to to skew these well, and.

Speaker 6 (01:38:36):
Then you're talking about all the entities involved here.

Speaker 5 (01:38:39):
I mean you're talking decks of cards that had you
could put on these like sunglasses looking things, look like
X ray goggles, and they would tell you what it was.
A King of Heart cards could see yeah, cards flat down,
face down on the table. But you I guess, like
some sort of watermark or a you know, I almost
like like a black light kind of situation.

Speaker 3 (01:38:59):
You can see it.

Speaker 6 (01:39:00):
I heard also read there's like contact lenses that could
do and the the uh the sho I never go
to automax shufflers. That's roll number one.

Speaker 10 (01:39:10):
You never do that.

Speaker 3 (01:39:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:39:12):
But also like like cameras inside, like the chip trays yep,
I mean just.

Speaker 3 (01:39:18):
The defend movie stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:39:19):
The defendants allegedly used high tech cheating technology to steal
millions of dollars from victims in secretly fixed underground poker games,
with the head coach of the Portland Trailblazers as the
face to attract the big players to the tables.

Speaker 6 (01:39:35):
Here, Like I know, football coaches, they don't have a
waking second right to like where how is he going
to poker matches and yeah, and doing all this stuff
like that'd be the first red flag is wait, manue,
how come we're not well?

Speaker 4 (01:39:49):
And the real scary part of this the John tay
Porter aspect of getting information from a player.

Speaker 3 (01:39:56):
Who was being squeezed, who had.

Speaker 4 (01:39:58):
Been gambling, had clear lost money, was in debt, and
then when you're in debt to them and they start
tightening screws and they say we need the money tomorrow
at five, and you say I don't have it, then
their idea is, all right, then what can you offer us?
Give us insider information on Friday nights game, give us
something we can use, and then.

Speaker 6 (01:40:19):
Then they show you.

Speaker 5 (01:40:20):
They show you, well, here's three pieces of information that
you'll find interesting. These are all receipts of you engaging
in a legal yes.

Speaker 4 (01:40:28):
And Damon Jones, the former NBA player, was also a
I don't know he was a volunteer assistant, but he
was somehow involved on the staff with the Lakers, who,
according to the text and the transcripts, at one point
was sending text to individuals saying bet and I think
the Lakers are playing the Spurs or whoever the Lakers
are playing. He was saying and capital letters bet the

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other team because he knew Lebron was not going to play.
It wasn't public knowledge yet, but he knew as being
part of the organization Lebron wasn't playing. Passes all that
information and major money was bad. Now that went right there.

Speaker 5 (01:41:04):
Well, you just said, I have to imagine happens more
than possibly more than you possibly think, because look, if
you're a player on a team, and I've been there,
like in a Titans locker room, I know.

Speaker 6 (01:41:18):
That Steve McNair is not playing in that game.

Speaker 5 (01:41:20):
But but it's not on the official injury board, it's
not out there. But that's that's kind of important information
that if the right people got it. And I think
with with everything happening online, it's just adding an extra
layer of like obscurity. Yes, and and players can kind
of justify to themselves and you call your buddy and say, hey, look,

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by the way, you might want to know that this this,
this guy's out and that guy's out kind of thing,
and and then it can go from there.

Speaker 3 (01:41:49):
Man, oh man, this thing just getting started.

Speaker 6 (01:41:51):
Well tomorrow there's gonna be just wait, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:41:54):
Let's get a check on news.

Speaker 4 (01:41:56):
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Robertson leads the nation in passing yards per game three
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Last opportunity for Big Blue Nation to hit both Keeland
and football on the same day. Tennessee has a four
game win streak over Kentucky. Miami puts its four game
win streak on the line versus Western Michigan kickoff three thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:44:16):
It's family weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:44:17):
It's also their cancer awareness game, and last week's went
over Eastern Michigan. The red Hawks time of possession was
forty two minutes, a record in the Chuck Martin era,
including a monster twenty play scoring drive for the Red Hawks.
Notre Dame gets the weekend off before shipping up to
Boston to take on Boston College. Jerem Love two twenty

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eight yards rushing man last week. Yeah, nice comeback for
your Irish under the lights in South Bed. Number two
Indiana takes on UCLA for a noon kick in Bloomington.
The Bruins have won three straight under interim coach Tim Skipper.
The Hoosiers didn't punt last week against Michigan State. It's
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since nineteen eighty nine.

Speaker 3 (01:45:01):
After back to back road games.

Speaker 4 (01:45:03):
Purdue comes home to face Wreckers in the Boilermakers' annual
homecoming game number nineteen. Louisville back home and ranked for
the first time this season, The Cards host Boston College.
Louisville's defense ranked number ten in the country and knocked
off Miami last week. Watchet Hurricanes Hyle Bobcats hit the
road to face the Eastern Michigan Thomas Moore travels to
North Campton, Ohio. They'll take on Walsh University, and it's

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homecoming for Mount Saint Joe versus Franklin. How are you
feeling about your Irish feeling better?

Speaker 3 (01:45:31):
Feel good?

Speaker 6 (01:45:32):
I mean went out which knock on wood is doable?

Speaker 3 (01:45:36):
For sure? I think they're in all right.

Speaker 4 (01:45:39):
A couple of other topics beyond our gambling hot topic
around the NFL. I'd be interested in your thoughts on.
There is a situation and folding with the Baltimore Ravens.
It plays out often, has played out often over the years.
When teams are not playing well and they're struggling, they
look for things to maybe change the focus. In this
case the Baltimore Ravens. The initial report was coach's decision.

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It's since come out. It was really the veteran player's decision.
Whoever made the decision. The Baltimore Ravens have removed from
their locker room the ping pong tables, the cornhole boards,
the basketball hoop, the pinball machine, and the video game consoles.
Rock your reaction to the one and five Baltimore Ravens

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pulling out all the stops to refocus the troops by
eliminating all the fun stuff in the locker room.

Speaker 6 (01:46:30):
I'm for it. I don't think I would have it
in there to begin with.

Speaker 4 (01:46:34):
Did you ever have did the call? Did Tony Dungey
ever have ping pong tables and cornhole boards?

Speaker 5 (01:46:39):
No gods have like video game consoles. But you know,
really that was just Dawhite Freeny that played it all
the time. He was good and so it didn't matter. Yeah,
never was on.

Speaker 6 (01:46:51):
A team that had had any of that stuff. So yeah,
I didn't have to worry about it. But I just
feel like, especially now guys have their phones. Everyone's in
their locker of their phones. I have one more thing
that's a distraction. I mean, you're here at work, we'll
get you in, we'll get you out. I just don't think,
you know, you can play corn hole on your own time.

Speaker 4 (01:47:11):
My thought would be, having considered the workplace, I think
our station could use a ping pong table and a
basketball hoop and some cornhole boards. But at that area
when we walk in it's kind of open space. We
can put up a basketball hoop, cornhole boards.

Speaker 6 (01:47:29):
Lance, we're just trying to get coffee cups and coffee.

Speaker 4 (01:47:33):
I could see you and Eddie like during the bottom
of the hour news go out and toss some cornhole bags.

Speaker 3 (01:47:39):
Yeah, I got to do something take up with some
of that space. That's the room for a little like
golden tea and gold guy. Yeah, I haven't played in
a while.

Speaker 4 (01:47:49):
Yeah, time, and there there is there was what yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:47:56):
You know that could be a good I mean like
once like a team building activity or something, but not
all the time.

Speaker 4 (01:48:02):
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note from the NFL, What do you make of this?
They've done so much in changing the kickoffs over the years,
you know, the kickoff, and then it was concussions and

(01:48:23):
too much collision and we got to change it, and
then nothing was happening on kickoffs, and then they changed
it again and now the kickoff is back, but one
thing that's not back is the on side kick. This
season there have been and the on side kick has
been reduced to the no surprise on sidekick. You have
to tell the other team we're going to try it
on side kick, so be ready for that's part of
the rule, so it's no surprise. There have been twenty

(01:48:45):
one on side kick attempts this year. There has been
one recovered by the kicking team. That's a four point
seven percent recovery rate Rockey following me, four point seven percent.
League sources say the league would prefer the rate to
be about twelve percent. They like a little bit more,
not too much, but a little bit more to at

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least give teams a chance and add to the excitement
of the play. So they say twelve percent would be
in their ballpark. If you go back from two thoy
through twenty seventeen, the on side recovery rate was pushing
twenty percent. It was getting up there, but it has
dropped obviously dramatically.

Speaker 3 (01:49:23):
There is an.

Speaker 4 (01:49:24):
Option that John Elway when he was at the Broncos
in their in their general manager role. He had floated
the idea which is now resurfacing again. And the idea
would be in lieu of the on side kick. If
you score late, pull within you know, ten points or whatever,
with two minutes to go and you want to try
an on side kick, that would be replaced by one play.

(01:49:47):
You get to attempt a fourth and fifteen and I
forget yard line that would that would be I guess
if you at the thirty five twenty twenty five. So
they say, all right, light in liu ait onsite. You
get one snap a fourth and fifteen. If you make it,
you keep the possession and get to continue your drive.
If you don't, if you failed, the other team takes

(01:50:09):
over at that spot. Is that the school of thought
is it's too gimmicky for some of the league. And
the other thought is how much of that is going
to turn into a conversion based on a pass interference
that you didn't truly convert the fourth and fifteen without
the penalty being called on the defense pass interference?

Speaker 6 (01:50:31):
Does this is the thing I would worry about, yea
pass interference, you know, the.

Speaker 4 (01:50:35):
Classic underthrown and the defender runs into the receiver and.

Speaker 6 (01:50:39):
Way I remind you of I'm trying to look this up.
Doesn't the UFL do that that?

Speaker 4 (01:50:46):
I don't I think. I want to say they to
more consider it. I think, I think because I think
that was part of the original argument. The NFL will
never do it because they that league does it, and
the NFL doesn't like admitting other things work in other leagues.

Speaker 3 (01:51:01):
So I think they may use it in that league.

Speaker 6 (01:51:04):
Yeah, but didn't.

Speaker 5 (01:51:06):
But but didn't the the new age kickoff come from
the UFL as well?

Speaker 3 (01:51:12):
Maybe? I think so.

Speaker 6 (01:51:13):
I think that was a trial.

Speaker 4 (01:51:15):
Well, remember at one point which league wasn't remember, they
just put the ball in the middle of the field
and had two guys start on the opposite ends and
the go and it was a run to the center
of the field and the scrum and whoever recovered the
ball got it.

Speaker 6 (01:51:27):
I remember that when in the World League was it
the World League or no, the XFL, there was no
fair catches. I do remember that that was.

Speaker 4 (01:51:33):
So for I understand that the gimmicky side of it.
I understand the drama, the intrigue of watching that type.
I mean, I guess I think it's weird they call
it a fourth and fifteen or fourth and twenty. Alternay,
it's really not a fourth day, it's just a it's
a play, one shot, it's one play, So I don't
know why they call it a fourth down. I did

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see this NFL data. Take this for what it's worth.
The numbers indicate the success rate of a fourth and
seventeen play is twelve percent, So the league is looking
for something closer to a twelve percent recovery rate. Fourth
and seventeen delivers the rate most often. That would be

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what the league is looking for.

Speaker 5 (01:52:18):
I just wish there was I know there's not a
way to do it because of the nature of it,
but a way to allow there to be a yess.

Speaker 6 (01:52:26):
Yes, I don't love the new kick.

Speaker 5 (01:52:28):
I understand that it's allowed more kicks to be returned,
and that's not the hearing r there. But yeah, and
you have to, you know, signal that you're going for.
That takes away that it.

Speaker 3 (01:52:39):
Defends the purposely on side kick.

Speaker 6 (01:52:42):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:52:42):
Where do you fall? Do you think the fourth and
seventeen is? I get the drama of it. I also
understand how gimmicky it appears. I mean, can you imagine
a scenario where the Bengals pull within whatever a touchdown
with a minute to go, and this is in play,
and I'd like my chances of Joe Burrow or Joe

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Flacco lining up with Higgins and Chase and Yoshi and saying, guys,
we've got one shot here, fourth and seventeen, fourth and
twenty whatever it is, take your chances.

Speaker 5 (01:53:16):
I mean, the NFL has always not been shy about
changing things. Remember we go to the pat and yep,
it's I understand this is an entertainment situation. And if that,
I mean my college game last night. If if MTSU scores,
you know there, they could go for the on side kick,
and they did go for the onside kick.

Speaker 6 (01:53:37):
So there was some, you know, a little element of
drama to that.

Speaker 4 (01:53:40):
So it will be discussed at the owners meeting. I
think that's next week. I would come out.

Speaker 6 (01:53:47):
I would love to hear a third option, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:53:49):
That's not a bad idea. Yeah, something I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:53:53):
Less gimmicky, but still dramatic. Right right, all right, we
come back. Let's discuss your marathon game last night, and
let's discuss Joe Flacco and Delaware and how his presence
is very much felt around there. If we do that,
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Speaker 3 (01:54:46):
It seemingly would not end.

Speaker 6 (01:54:49):
It took about four hours and it's it's due to
and it was who For those who didn't watch the
MTSU at Delaware Delaware cool story.

Speaker 5 (01:54:57):
Their first year in the FPS. They've been a FCS powerhouse.

Speaker 6 (01:55:01):
For for for a for.

Speaker 5 (01:55:03):
A while, won some a bunch of titles back in
the nineties, two thousands, that.

Speaker 6 (01:55:08):
Kind of thing.

Speaker 5 (01:55:09):
But now in their first year and in conference USA
are playing well.

Speaker 6 (01:55:14):
And yeah, and the game.

Speaker 5 (01:55:16):
Took forever because of because of reviews and referees and
flags that again, the one one that had me was
there was no penalty called the booth calls down, says, hey.

Speaker 6 (01:55:27):
We think there's a penalty. They review it and say, no,
there wasn't a penalty after all.

Speaker 3 (01:55:32):
You gotta be kidding me.

Speaker 6 (01:55:33):
That's that's stupid.

Speaker 4 (01:55:35):
And Troy Aikman said, uh, what of officiating and the
impact on games?

Speaker 3 (01:55:39):
Oh, it was during the Bengals game.

Speaker 6 (01:55:41):
I think it was. I just remember him saying, he said,
nothing will.

Speaker 5 (01:55:45):
Ruin a broadcast faster than those yellow flags.

Speaker 3 (01:55:49):
And it's it's truth.

Speaker 5 (01:55:50):
And and I always complained that, you know, referees, they
don't understand like how people consume this product anymore. No
one is sitting down and watching and leaving the channel
on just that game, with no other entertainment venues going
on at all.

Speaker 3 (01:56:08):
Everyone's sitting there.

Speaker 5 (01:56:09):
I would say ninety percent of people watch a game
with their phone in their hand, and then during a
commercial break they'll football on Netflix, they'll go over here,
and when there's no there's laws in action, you're just
forcing people to turn your broadcast off and possibly never
come back.

Speaker 1 (01:56:24):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:56:25):
And the real difficulty for me became as a former
UC football season ticket holder, sitting in the stands at
a game with those delays and the commercial breaks, and
my eyes would always go to the official with the
yardstick with the timer on top that showed how long
the break was gonna be.

Speaker 3 (01:56:41):
I'm like, oh, my goodness.

Speaker 5 (01:56:43):
Now, that's very interesting you bring that up, because one
of the things going on now that I've both read
about and experienced myself is the amount of students, especially fans,
leaving college football games early. There was an LSU SU
off Carolina game in Death Valley Places Rock and Night game,

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seven point ball game in the fourth quarter and the
stadium is half empty. JMU last week they played ODU
and I talked to their staff and they're like, yeah,
the students kind of leave after halftime. And I think
that's what's at play here is the attention span is
out there, like I'm gonna go crazy.

Speaker 6 (01:57:20):
I can't.

Speaker 5 (01:57:21):
I can't stand, you know, having nothing to do. My
brain needs some sort of interest.

Speaker 3 (01:57:28):
Ye, Joe Flacco and Delaware tell me about that.

Speaker 6 (01:57:32):
I mean, he's again, I said this during the broadcast.
I don't know if there's a player more associated with
a university than Joe Flacco, right, I mean, when you
think of Delaware football. If you think of Delaware football,
you go, oh, that's where Joe Flacco went, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:57:46):
So he's synonymous with it. He's very good to the
very good to Delaware. There's the Joe Flacco family weight room.
Really all sore Nex equipment. It's it's all.

Speaker 6 (01:57:59):
What's the coaches said is iron because when he played
there and a lot of his NFL career until recently,
he was not a workout guy at all. But I'm
sure you heard him talk about how he said he's
never felt better because he's he's doing the cold tubs
and the hot tubs and thesaunas and the weight rooms
and all that sort of stuff and yep, which is
enabling him to play it at this age. But yeah,

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I thought that was funny that.

Speaker 5 (01:58:22):
You know, he puts a millions of dollars for a
weight room when that was probably the last place he
went when he was a player.

Speaker 3 (01:58:28):
There.

Speaker 4 (01:58:29):
By the way, while we're talking officiating, I don't know
if you heard this earlier today about the SEC official.
Veteran SEC official Ken Williamson has been permanently suspended from
officiating conference games. The decision to remove the longtime referee
came in the immediate week of the SEC review of
eleven complaints against Williamson and his crew during the Auburn

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Georgia game earlier this month. According to sources, nine of
those eleven complaints were validated by conference officials, and he
has been permanently removed from officiating SEC games.

Speaker 3 (01:59:03):
How about that, I mean, do we know the instances?

Speaker 6 (01:59:06):
Was the things he called or things he didn't call?

Speaker 14 (01:59:09):
It?

Speaker 3 (01:59:09):
Oh, then that's a good question that I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:59:14):
Because I always think that that's the reason why there's
so many flags. Is I from what officials I've talked to,
that you're more incentivized in your reviews to throw a
flag and be wrong than to not throw a flag.

Speaker 3 (01:59:26):
And be wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:59:27):
Yeah, yeah, that does make sense. Yeah, I'm not I
don't see a breakdown of it. But he is done
from the the SEC. So you do not have a
game this weekend, but we'll travel at the start of
the week.

Speaker 5 (01:59:41):
Yeah, a Tuesday night game in San Marcos, Texas, Texas
State at or assuming jam you at Texas State, Texas State,
and you talk about a snake bitten team. They were,
you know, picked to be a contender in the West,
but they've lost, you know, like two overtime games in
the fourth quarter against Troy, Troy scored I think like

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twenty one or twenty eight points in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 6 (02:00:04):
To come back and win.

Speaker 5 (02:00:06):
So yeah, they've been kind of I haven't really had
time to dive into them, but had JMU last week,
and they're the real deal. I mean, they got a real,
live defense, and they have the thing that hardly any
teams have anymore, which is depth on their d line,
especially they'll rotate like nine guys.

Speaker 6 (02:00:23):
They got this running back.

Speaker 5 (02:00:24):
Named Wayne Knight, who I compared to Darren Sprolls, who
was a guy I played against so I hated playing
against because he was, you know, five foot six, lightning quick,
and you couldn't find him because he hide behind three
hundred pound guys and just burst out.

Speaker 6 (02:00:39):
So yeah, they're they're a fun team.

Speaker 5 (02:00:41):
I love that Bob Chesney is the is the head
coach of JMU. He was at Holy Cross a couple
of years ago. I think he's gonna be a guy
that gets a bigger job. I will certainly be offered
bigger jobs, power forward jobs this coming year.

Speaker 6 (02:00:59):
We'll see he takes it.

Speaker 4 (02:01:00):
Our time is up time flew. Let's gather next Thursday night.
The Bengals will have beaten the Jets. They'll be at
the five hundred mark if they don't. If they don't,
then we'll show up and drink.

Speaker 6 (02:01:12):
Heavily, heavily, heavily. It can't, no, it can't.

Speaker 4 (02:01:17):
If they lose, then Scott's got to hang around another
week and Scott.

Speaker 3 (02:01:22):
Can do the show while we sit and eat wings.

Speaker 5 (02:01:25):
Now we're gonna fly to Australia, do the show and
drink Australian beer.

Speaker 3 (02:01:30):
And there you go, there you go. All right, We're done.

Speaker 4 (02:01:33):
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