The Roundtable Show with Lance McAlister and Rocky Boiman -- 10/30/25

Lance McAlister and Rocky Boiman are LIVE from Longnecks in Hebron, KY. They talk to the usual guest. Mike Petraglia on Bengals, Chad Brendel on UC, Greg Shoemaker on HS Football, and Dan Clasgens on Fantasy Football.

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Speaker 2 (00:48):
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in on this Thursday night. If it's Thursday, it must
be the Roundtable show and we must be at Long
Next tonight in Hebrin, the third stop on our world tour.
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Speaker 3 (01:19):
Rock good to.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
See you should we tell everybody it's our fault?

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
In fact, I pulled out the text I'm gonna to
show you how far things have fallen or how much
things have changed. We're gonna go back to Sunday at
one twenty seven pm, so that's approximately twenty minutes or
so into the Bengals game.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yes, and you sent the first text and it was quote.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Barrett Carter all over the place, exclamation point, exclamation point.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
My response on Twitter was no doubt and multiple bodies
to the ball.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
And then I may have text.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
We are back, it's our fault, and then it all
went down down.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
Hell will.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
The fall from that moment of excitement and anticipation and
build up in my mind to what tonight was gonna
be like. I'm like, they're gonna be four and four
and they're gonna be I and the chance to beat
the Bears, to get over five hundred and then go
to the bi get the Steelers down the bye.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
We are so back, and then they are missing tackles
left and right.

Speaker 5 (02:33):
There's gents flying around the edges and down the sidelines
and Zach's running the ball on second and ten, and
that I wanted to drink heavily after the game and
say we are so not back.

Speaker 6 (02:43):
We're we're someplace, but we're not much to talk about. Yes, yes,
a lot to end.

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Speaker 3 (03:20):
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golden golden tea. I'm thinking I'm confusing my golf simulation, Daves.
We've got all that and plenty more to get to.
Let me get to the headlines. We start with the
Bengals who continued to work for Sunday's matchup against the
Bears at pay Corps. Joe Flacco did practice, he did throw.
He's listed as officially on the injury report. We'll ask

(04:02):
more about what that could mean when we talk with
Trags coming up in about nine minutes. Trey Hendrickson, Logan Wilson,
Dalton Reisner did not practice today. The Bengals with a
flurry of transactions. They signed Joe Giles Harris off the
practice squad to the active roster.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
He's a linebacker.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
They released defensive end Miles Cole from the practice squad.
They signed linebacker Liam Anderson to the practice squad. They
signed Brian boy I wrote that out phonetically become awesome. Wah,
there you go, the second to the practice squad as well.
So three linebackers added to the practice squad again. Logan
Wilson did not practice today. Three of the four Bears

(04:46):
wide receivers did practice today. They were limited yesterday. All
four of their top receivers did not practice today. Three
of those four did practice but were listed as limited,
including Roma Dounza and DJ Moore. Tight End Cole Comet
was limited but did practice. Thursday Night, football Baltimore is
at Miami eight fifteen, Fox Sports thirteen sixty College football

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Day will be there. Quarterback Brendan Sowersby is an official
candidate for the Davy O'Brien National Quarterback Award, presented to
the top quarterback of the country. Chad Brenda will preview
the game coming up one hour from now. Baseball, the
Blue Jays take a three to two series lead over

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Speaker 3 (05:39):
Seven thirty five.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
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Kentucky taking on Georgetown, an exhibition played tonight seven o'clock
on ESPN fifteen thirty. All right, I think we are set,
We're caught up, We're ready to rock and roll. I
don't think it's I don't think it's hyperbole. I don't
think we're.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Getting out over our skis aer ahead of ourselves. If
you were to say.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
That was the worst loss of the Zach Taylor era
of Bengals football.

Speaker 6 (06:32):
Absolutely, You lose to a team that's owned seventh team
that had since Week one hadn't scored more than twenty
one points. Two weeks combined scored like twenty points.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
I mean, every.

Speaker 6 (06:41):
Metrics said this is a bad, bad football team, and
they came.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
Out hung around, hung around, hung around.

Speaker 6 (06:47):
And what happens when you let a team hang around,
they get hope and pull it out.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
And that's what happened.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Played without Sauce Gardner, played without Garrett Wilson, and played
on a week where their quarterback had been thrown under
the bus by the owner and backed up over top
of him, and he came out and played well.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
All of that to be at home.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
And and I just I kept thinking about it in
terms of a missed opportunity because you were at home
a winless team, two of their three best players not there.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
If you got that win, it.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Could go into this one to take into the buy
and then lo and behold. After all that, the Steelers
lost Sunday night. I mean, there was just so much
there for the ticking and they dropped it.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
It was the perfect opponent to have at that point.

Speaker 6 (07:29):
Yeah, you'd get the potentially season turnaround win.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (07:34):
Against the Pittsburgh Steelers on Thursday night. You get a
little extra time. Okay, we're playing the lowly Jets. Here's
an opportunity for the defense and get some confidence Jarrick.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Blaco, to get furt involved.

Speaker 6 (07:45):
The offense, get the running game going, which by the offensively,
all those things happened. The callber of course was a defense,
but just a and to your point too, I think
there's I could always make the casion. I have that
A lot of the blame I think goes on the
front office in the inability to draft and all that,
and not as much on the coaches. I think there
were some questionable time management thing yes, at the end

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of that game that you could point to.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Zach b.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
We'll spend some time on that later on as well.
Let's spend some time with Trags when we come back.
Mike Petralia, He's Rocky, I'm Lance. It's the Cincinnati Tax
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Speaker 3 (08:25):
I've week run. We'd love being here. Love to see
you here as well. We love talking with.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Our next guest, he covers the Bengals for c LNS
sincywth Y dot com, host of the Jungle War podcast
on YouTube. To welcome in the man, they call Trags.
Mike Petralia, how you doing.

Speaker 7 (08:42):
I'm doing well. Lance?

Speaker 3 (08:43):
How are you? I am well?

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Give us Give us a Joe Flacco update and your
read on the situation as it relates to playing on Sunday.

Speaker 8 (08:55):
I he did practice today. He was limited officially on
the injury reports.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
He threw the ball.

Speaker 8 (09:02):
Based on what the media was able to witness in
the open portion of practice this afternoon inside the structure
down the street from Peycor and I think that's a
good sign. I mean, he's in uniform. He went through
one of the more important days, of course, that's Thursday
install and I think he's probably going to be able

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to give it a go on Sunday against the Bears.
I think a telling sign will be if he speaks
before the media tomorrow. The Bengals postponed any media availability
with the starting quarterback on Wednesday, meaning they didn't want
to commit to Flaco or Jake Browning on Wednesday, postponing
it to Friday. So if it's Flaco tomorrow, that's pretty

(09:44):
good indication that he will start.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
I think.

Speaker 8 (09:48):
Also, Zach Taylor acknowledged to us on Wednesday that Blacko
told him he has every intention of doing everything he
needs to do to get his shoulder ready. It's a
sprained ac joint, and from what I'm told, that can
be a very painful injury, but certainly he was able
to get some quick treatment before the last series of

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the game on Sunday return of.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
The game and do what he did.

Speaker 8 (10:13):
I think it probably did impact his ability to throw then,
but he's had, you know, five days now to work
that shoulder over, and I think he'll probably probably give
it a go on Sunday. The Bengals certainly could use him.

Speaker 6 (10:28):
I tried, have you gotten any more information does come
out about the feared and dreaded defensive players only meeting.

Speaker 9 (10:36):
Well.

Speaker 8 (10:37):
Jamar Chase was the latest to chime in today, and
I thought it was interesting. He, as a captain of
the offense and a team captain himself, met with Geno Stone,
who was not a King team captain but certainly a
leader in the secondary, and Jamar told us that he
told Geno Stone to not worry about it. To my

(11:00):
you can only control what you can control, meaning the
players shouldn't try to worry about doing too much on
defense to account for the lack of plays in the past.
Do what you can do, control what you can control,
and let the chips fall where they may. But what
he also said toward the end of it is make

(11:21):
sure you guys stay together as a unit. And I
thought that was interesting from Jamar acknowledging the fact that
they're going through, you know, the grinder right now.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
They are no.

Speaker 8 (11:33):
Question in the crosshairs of everybody, media, fans, privately, certainly.
I think inside the building they're in the crosshairs of
talent evaluators, and I think some people want major changes
and right now those changes, while perhaps warranted, are not

(11:53):
realistic because there's no options to go to. They've already
tried to bench Cam Taylor Britt, They've benched Logan Wilson.
There are not a lot of other chips to push
to the middle of the table at this point. And
I think that's Jamar Chase's point today that it is
what it is. Play to your best ability. We got your.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Back, Trag's in and around all that's gotten sideways with
this team. The offensive line, much criticized early, seems to
have settled in to open up the running game and
provide a little bit more protection for the quarterback.

Speaker 8 (12:27):
And Lance you can look directly to the running game
for as a reason for that, because how many times
over the course of years in covering football have we
all been told Rocky.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
To you too.

Speaker 8 (12:40):
Offensive linemen loved to run block right. They love to
get their hands dirty, get physical at the point of attack,
and move forward.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
And when you're.

Speaker 8 (12:49):
Under center as a quarterback, that is, you know, the
physical mechanics of the run game are easier and more
functional as opposed to running it from the shotgun. And
the Bengals have been much better as a running team
when they've gone more heavily with the under center run game.
And that was the case with Joe Flacco against even

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Green Bay. Of course, we saw it against Pittsburgh. We
saw it last Sunday against the Jets, and I think
that's one reason the offensive line looks a little bit
more confident. And certainly, if you can play action out
of the under center formation, there are plays to be made.
And I think again Flacco looked pretty comfortable doing that

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on Sunday. Certainly, offense put thirty eight points up on
the board, enough enough to win. But you do have
to like the fact the way the offense looks, especially
the run game, with them running under center a lot
more track.

Speaker 6 (13:48):
Of course, the problem with the defense is the tackling.
The biggest problem I've been reading a lot about tackling
drills and dummies and pads and rolling donuts and stuff
and practice.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
What can you tell us.

Speaker 8 (13:59):
About that, Well, there's only you can't really do live
tackling at this stage of the season. Rocky and one
and Zach Taylor was asked about that on Wednesday, and
he said, there are other things we can do. He
didn't want to get into it because I don't think
he wants to get, you know, into the details and
take the risk of saying something that might be in

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violation of the CBA. I really think that's what that's about.
But you know, the things that you mentioned that the
big wheels that we see come out in training camp,
you know, trash barrels, they're all kind of drills. I
think the Bengals are probably spending more time on that.
In the limited time that we got to see Jerry

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Montgomery work with the defensive linemen on Wednesday yesterday, he
was getting very aggressive and working on timing with his
defensive linemen. And I think, you know, as much as
there's been emphasis on the lack of tackling going on
with the Bengals, they all so have to win at
the point of attack. Defensively, and they haven't been doing

(15:03):
that well either. So that's I think another area where
the Bengals they just need to get more physical in
the defensive trenches if they're going to win some of
these battles and get pressure on the quarterback.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
They have eleven sacks.

Speaker 8 (15:17):
That's tied the third worst in the National Football League.
So while yes, tackling is a problem, no question, they
have to get after the quarterback. They have to give
some type of inkling that they are going to threaten
the space of the quarterback. Otherwise, quarterbacks inherently going to
drop back and figure they're not likely to get to me.
So maybe I can take an extra second or so

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to look over the secondary and find a target.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Trags tell everybody how they can and by the way,
you're good, bad and ugly of how they get to
a tipping point and fight for relevance is an excellent
piece today. Tell everybody how they can read, watch, and follow.

Speaker 8 (15:55):
You can follow that piece as well as my earlier
piece this week about where the organ is is and
who's to blame.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
I's sealing us.

Speaker 8 (16:03):
Sincey with a line dot com, you can certainly follow
all on my locker room interviews and the piece from
Jamar Chase or the clips today from Jamar Chase that's
up on the x app Trags t r ags and
as always the Jungle War Bengals postgame pod myself and
Richard Skinner Skinny of Local twelve that is on YouTube

(16:26):
dot com Slash Jungle War Pod.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
Excellent. As always, Thank you, Sarah. We'll talk next week.

Speaker 8 (16:33):
All right, gentlemen, have a good one.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
There you go, Mike Petralia Trags check it in when
we continue. I want to ask you about and your
your question to him about tackling sparked my curiosity of
just run us through when we come back some things
tackling drill wise you did with Colts and Titans as
an NFL player. As we roll on, he is Rocky,

(16:56):
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the way, I have a I don't think I ever

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told you this. I was just thinking of tomorrow being Halloween.
You know I have a Halloween story connection with my wife.
Do you realize what it was like.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
A slutty nurse outfit or anything.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
It does not thank you for taking it in a
very awkward direction. I proposed to Kelly with a pumpkin
I put I.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
This was during the.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Time I was working here and she was working in
Chicago and TV, and I was driving back and forth
basically every weekend. It was three hundred and twelve miles
from my doorstep to her doorstep in Glen Ellen, Illinois,
and I did it basically every weekend. And Halloween week
I drove up and I was going to propose. And
I stopped along the road and bought a pumpkin. And

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when I arrived that night, that Friday night, we were
curving the pumpkin, and you know, it cut the top out,
and I told her, I said, go get another utensil
and give me another knife in the kitchen. And when
she did that, I took the ring, put it in
a plastic baggie and I stuck it down into the
pumpkin among all the pumpkin seats and everything. So she
starts cleaning out the pumpkin as I'm carving, and she

(19:08):
opens the bag and it's the ring. And I propose
to her, how romantic am I? How romantic am I?

Speaker 7 (19:15):
For you. So I was.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
That was twenty twenty eight years ago. This week. There
you go about that?

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Love it remind me to tell you I've got another
I got a Michael Jordan Halloween story to tell you
before we're done.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
If you remind me of that, I will. Let's do
how about this one? Yes?

Speaker 2 (19:33):
First, let me review last week's defensive play of the game.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
Yeah, crowd, no.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
I must choose a defensive play. You know what I'm
gonna do.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
I'm going to do one of those Barrett Carter tackles
within the first twenty.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Minutes that we were texting about. There you go, right there.

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No matter how bad the defense plays, there's got to
be a defensive play of the game, and we have
presented it to you. All right, let's talk tackling. What

(20:17):
much is made of? Like, what are you gonna do
during the season because you don't tackle? Give me some concepts,
some drills, some things that were done when you played
during the season. That helped focus and fine tune tackling.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
All right, let's break this down. Yes, first of all,
I believe.

Speaker 6 (20:35):
Tackling is in some ways you're kind of a good
at itor. You're not, right, I mean, I think some
people just have a natural ability to be great tackler. Yeah,
and a lot of that has to do with, you know,
your athleticism. I think a more athletic person is better
at tackling because they're.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
Used to moving and understand angles exactly.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
All that.

Speaker 6 (20:52):
In terms of how do you practice tackling in the season, Yes,
it's next to impossible in the season because there's nothing
like the like the real thing, right, there's nothing like
actually doing.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
And then the.

Speaker 6 (21:03):
Problem with with this, you know these days when I played,
there would be actual live tackling periods in camp. Amazing,
It's it's gone now. So it's like I would it
would be like asking you, how do you get good
at doing a radio show? But you can't talk without talking,
you can't talk, it'd be imposed. So look, yes, you
can do all the all the devices and the motorized

(21:25):
dummies and the wheels and all that. I contend though
that I think of an equal, if not more importance
is if your understanding of the defense. Okay, and I
think this kind of goes back to Barret Carter and
some of these young linebackers. I think if you know
where you're supposed to be with confidence, you know, it's
like do I have the A gap or the B gap?
Like you know, Logan Wilson knows he may not get there,

(21:47):
but you know, on this particular play, in a split second,
I got the A gap. We're a younger and more
inexperienced player.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
Maybe like.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
You know which gap do I have?

Speaker 6 (21:57):
So I think the more you can learn defense, the
more confident you get in the more if you understand
conceptually the defense.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
And I'm talking about.

Speaker 6 (22:04):
Leverage, who has the outside, who's inside out on it?
Where's my help? All those things again come with experience.
I think that's almost more important than doing a bunch
of tackling on plastic dummies.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
That's a great breakdown.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
And I, as you were talking about leverage, I would
love to see a chart. I'm sure there is one
sumwhere it's probably on Pro Football Focus.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
I just haven't found it.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
But the number of the yards gained getting to the
edge and the Bengals inability to set the edge. It
just drives me crazy how ball carriers receivers on screens
they get to that edge and are down the sideline
and there's no contained there's so many extra yards that
way drives you crazy.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
Yeah, I got it on my coach teams.

Speaker 6 (22:46):
I mean that was, like, I mean, the single consistent
thing on every single play we would watch is do
you know where your help is?

Speaker 4 (22:54):
Do you know where your leverage is?

Speaker 6 (22:55):
And the probably the time you were going to get
the most screamed at if you just flat missed a
tackle would be But if you miss a tackle because
you didn't know where.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
Your help was, yes, it was the end of the world.

Speaker 6 (23:07):
And and I feel like that's something that I'm sure
is being talked about down there, and a lot of
it has to do again with younger guys and inexperience.
But I would tell those guys, Brett Carter, know where
your help is, know where your leverages.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Know if they shoot, maybe you can't make it, but
if you could funnel it back just and then.

Speaker 6 (23:24):
Look there again there, I mean, there was the one
tackle he missed on that fifty yard right, you know,
I think you just.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
Got to make that tackle.

Speaker 6 (23:31):
But I also in my hand like, if he's confident
in that split second of time that that's the gap
I got, maybe he gets there a little bit sooner
and you can bring the guy.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
That's a great point. The problem with the one of
many problems with this defense. The immediate problem is there's
no magic bullet. There's no magic solution. There's not a
code to punch in and rock. I'd argue because there
and it's on all three levels. This isn't an end
season fix. I think the fair question is can they

(24:00):
even fix this enough in one off season. I mean
that's the daunting, big picture thing that I look at.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
There's so much that has to be fixed.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
You're gonna be limited financially to at least some extent
cap wise, and you're already down one draft pick. I mean,
I don't know if everything can be fixed it up
and running up to speed.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
By next season.

Speaker 6 (24:18):
I hate to say, but I don't think you can
totally revamp a defense in one off season, talking one draft,
in one round of free agency. Look at the great defense.
I always go back to the Eagles defense last year
of how that defense was built, and you know, the draft,
and you know guys four years ago, three years ago,
two years ago, and all that added up and then

(24:39):
you get the free agents. So it's it's a very
very tough task to try to It's impossible next impossible
during the season, yeah, and yes now in one offseason.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
And the more I thought about it this week and
looking for all the different angles of this, there's no
denying the drain of talent and the drain of lead
in the last couple of years, specifically on that side
of the ball. And some of these guys all mentioned Yeah,
maybe they weren't the athletic talent or the physical talent
they were at the end of their career, but there

(25:10):
was still the leadership element of guys like from Jesse
Bates the DJ Raider, to Sam Hubbard to Von Bel
to Mike Hilton. All those guys are gone and when
you consider the replacements, just the drop off in talent
leadership all that's a huge grouping of talented, leader led

(25:32):
players that aren't here.

Speaker 6 (25:34):
I forget who said it this week, went one of
the many great writers for the band with They're like,
we're gonna talk to the leaders of the Bengals defense
after the.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Game, and it's like, who do you talk to? Who
are they? Yeah? I think that was Charlie Charlie chalkboard
from Charlie Gold right.

Speaker 6 (25:48):
Yeah, so yeah, that that certainly makes it tough when
you don't have some of those veteran leaders that again
know the defense and know what needs to be done.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
And we're going right back to the well we always
tend to go to when those guys left. The good
organizations have guys in the pipeline to replace him, and
they have. They've never replaced any anything close to what
Jesse Bates gave him on the back end, or what
DJ readers give him on the upfront, or or Sam
Hubbard or Mike Kilton as a playmaker. Is that that
slot guy or von Bels. They just haven't replaced those.

Speaker 6 (26:18):
Guys now that they haven't, and they haven't gotten anything
out of multiple first round picks on the I mean,
how I hate to pick on Stewart.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
How does he have three tackles? His main tackles A
chase does?

Speaker 6 (26:31):
It'd be one thing if he was undersized and he
has built like a Greek god, and you just figure
out at some point effort would get you six tackles.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
I don't. That's the one that's I mean, it's it's
really that one's a hard one.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
To hang well.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
And then there's the thought that if you just from
a pressure standpoint, if you're not able to get pressure,
what's the old saying, if you can't get pressure with four,
that sent five, or send six, or just keep sending them.
And yet the one that one time they did blitz
on on Sunday, it was was it came Taylor brit
Or Jordan Battle Now I can't remember. One of them
was was going right at Justin Fields on.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
The blitz and then pulled up.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
And I'm like, I don't even know what technique that
would be that would cause you to say I'm gonna
pull up and not go all the way through. So
and even if you say then blitz and more blitz
and more, it's not like they're set up and in
a lockdown secondary that's gonna be able to handle being
further exposed by that.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
So it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Speaker 6 (27:29):
Yeah, I mean, the more guys he's sending on them,
blitz less guys on the back end of the tackle less
guys are there to cover.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
It's yeah, there's no easy fix to it that.

Speaker 6 (27:38):
The fix is having phenomenal players that can you know
that that can make plays and step up, as Zach
likes to say, and make a play.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
Right now, no one's doing that.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
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Speaker 3 (28:27):
But let's slip to the other.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Side and the defense quickly before we take a time out.
Lou Anarumo and that Colts defense, and I could not
be happier for lou Anarumo, not to rub it into
the Bengals. I'm just a big fan of lou Anarumo.
And if you ever thought lou Anarumo was the problem,
then I give you the example of what the Colts
defense is right now, what the Bengals defense is right now,
And that has a little to do with Al Golden

(28:50):
and much to do about what ol or what Loui
Anarumo was working with here.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
And he's got more to work with in Indianapolis he does.

Speaker 6 (28:58):
At the point I've been making all week is it's
not like if you look at that that coach defense,
it's not like there's a bunch of household star studded names.
I mean, obviously got good players, but it's not like
they're stacked with Pro Bowl after Pro Bowl or Pro
Bowl or so that shows that, you know, even more
of a case to be made for how good he
was the fact that he's doing a great job with
not exactly you know, all pros out there.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Yeah, And I have people who will tell me, well,
they need to fire Al Golden. You know Al Golden
what his track record was in Notre Dame, and Al
Golden knows what the heck he's doing Al Golden's looking
at a grouping of players.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
There's not a whole lot to do with right now. Now.

Speaker 6 (29:36):
Al Golden did not forget how to coach defense in
a year. It's again, how many times have I said it?
In how many different ways? It's the players that decide
the fate.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Let's take a time out, come back, Let's get to
the offensive side of things.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
He's rocky.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
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Speaker 3 (31:13):
He'll just go out and do it.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
Yeah. It's like he's always there, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (31:17):
He's always, you know, somehow making some sort of contribution
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Speaker 3 (31:59):
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Speaker 2 (32:02):
There there, I feel weird complaining about the offense of
the day where they score thirty eight. I'll give you
what my issue was at the very end when it
when it really mattered. Those final two drives. I'm still
not sure what they were doing, and specifically the second
and ten run that Zach called. I almost and maybe

(32:22):
I'm looking for stuff but rock. This ties back to
my big complaint about Zach calling plays. There was so
much going on in that late sequence in the game,
and Flacco had gone to the locker room and then
he comes running back out and and the Bengals get
the ball and there's less than a minute to go,
and I thought they were gonna win the game, and
they're moving towards midfield, and I'm thinking they're gonna get
in the field goal range. And they get to second

(32:44):
and ten and he runs the ball and they get
nothing and they're forced to call a time out, and
just that whole sequence to me, screamed. I don't know
if he was overwhelmed or just there was a lot
going on. It seemed like a perfect situation for a
coach to be overseeing the game while the coordinator is

(33:06):
calling the play.

Speaker 6 (33:07):
Does that make do you don't understand what I saw?
Because Zach' steal like, what's for? Is Flacco at?

Speaker 4 (33:12):
Is he healthy? What's going on here? How's it?

Speaker 7 (33:14):
You know?

Speaker 4 (33:15):
I agree, but it's not gonna change.

Speaker 6 (33:18):
No, I mean, I Steve Sarkesian, I almost say, you
the clip he's talked about.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
If you're a guy, saw that, Yeah, That's why. That's
what I'm good at. And that's why when I'm brought here.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
And that's why I always say, it's like he's there.

Speaker 6 (33:29):
I mean, if he asks, Zach Clara, how did you
get the Bengals head coach? Shop, Well, because I was
an incredible play caller on a super Bowl team, Right,
So he's gonna you're gonna do what you do best,
So I don't think that's gonna change. I agree that
you you would have more mental capacity instead of worrying
about the intricacies of of a of an actual play,

(33:50):
to call more of an overall grasp of the game.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, I'm surprised he didn't even call it time But
things happened so quickly. Was all of a sudden fourth
and nine, and they seem to be in a rush
to run that play, and I would have. I was screaming,
call a time out and settle things down, Say if
Flacco's okay, you got one shot here to gain nine
yards of the game is over. And they went right
to the line of scrimmage and called the play. And

(34:13):
I just there was so frustrated to score thirty eight
and then we're actually talking about things they didn't do
offensively in the final two drives of the game. All right,
that's an hour in the books. I'm all, I'm all
worn out. A second hour.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
Got another hour?

Speaker 2 (34:27):
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Speaker 3 (35:34):
Anyway we go.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Second hour of two underway Tonight at longneckt in Hebern
are set up for the next five weeks at the
Roundtable Show. Lance Pacallister, Rocky Boyman, Let's talk Bearcats Number
seventeen in the country, winners of seven straight hitting the
road for a Saturday Night showed down at number twenty
four Utah for Moronette the man from Bearcat Journal dot Com.
Chad Brendle, how are you?

Speaker 9 (35:58):
I am currently uh talking to you and cooking up
some carne asada nachos.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
O woe picked up some of those on the way
home time.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
I mean, I'm on your leg.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Yeah, all right, let's jump into it big one Saturday night.
No Evan Pryor explain the significance and how the slack
might be picked up or handled without him.

Speaker 9 (36:27):
He's clearly important and that he's one of the things
I think that maybe hasn't been talked about enough this year,
the way that he has transformed his game. He was
almost strictly a home run hitter last year. He's giving
you more between the tackles. He's been super effective, and
he's been able to hit some of those those long runs.

(36:50):
They're gonna miss him, obviously, but in a game like
this with a defense that's as physical as Utah, I'm
not upset at the thought of we Walker getting more touches.
I just think his style, his ability to absorb some
of that contact that Utah wants to lay on you.

(37:12):
Seeing him get more touches, I don't necessarily think is
a bad thing. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets
most of Evan Pryor's carries. I think, you know, Chance
Williams is probably the first guy in line to get
some of those touches. And then Manny Covey is another

(37:33):
one that I think, you know, potentially you could see
him in the mix as well.

Speaker 6 (37:40):
So obviously this week Brendan Soorsby named to the Davy
O'Brien Class of twenty twenty five. Just talk about I mean, again,
as someone who's watched him, maybe more than anybody has,
what he was when he came here last year, you know,
good season, not spectact her, but then how he's gotten
to this point where, I mean, he's one of the
top quarterbacks in the nation.

Speaker 9 (38:02):
You know, it's incredible, Rocky, this is I don't know
that I've ever seen someone move past this. You know
what we talked about a lot last year, and we
talked about Brendon Sorosby gunslinger right out there, just big arm,
firing the ball around, maybe a little reckless at times.

(38:22):
He's been like the least reckless quarterback in the country.
This year, that transformation from him has been unbelievable. He
has thrown some balls away this year that last year
he would have tried to fit in the tight spot.
He would have put his receiver in a bad place,
you know, taking a chance, see the ball pop up
in the air, and next thing you know, the other team's.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
Got a killer.

Speaker 9 (38:45):
To go back to that West Virginia game last year,
he cost him the game and to see the maturation
a lot of it, like and they're not people aren't
wrong when they say this that the weapons are a
big reason he's transfer I completely agree with that. But
Brendan Soresby has transformed as a quarterback that's spreading it around.

(39:08):
He's hitting the open man. He's not forcing things, he's
not putting his team, you know, his defense in a
bad situation like that. Have you ever seen that rock?
Have you ever seen a guy that had that gunslinger
labeled that all of a sudden just it's not considered
that anyway.

Speaker 6 (39:24):
I agree with you because I've seen quarterbacks can can
repair falls. Usually if you're a gun slinger, you're a
gun slinger and you're gonna live and die by that
and you just kind of coach goes, well, he's gonna
throw three interceptions, but if he throws five touchdown passes,
we live with it. Yeah, that's usually not a quality.
You kind of grow out of them. That's usually your identity.
And that's it's amazing that he's been able to correct that.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
All right, how's how do you feel about this Bearcat
defense against a Utah run game, piling up two hundred
and sixty seven yards a game on the ground.

Speaker 9 (40:00):
Well, make no mistake, Sincenat, He's going to give up
some yards. We know that. I think it's super important
early that they're able to limit that, because if you
can get up on Utah. We saw Texas Tech do
at Uyu stayed kind of right with them. You can

(40:20):
have some success. If you let them march down the
field on a twelve play seventy five yard drive to
open the game and then you go three and out,
they're up seven to nothing with the ball, you're in trouble.
Like they they play a lot of six offensive linemen.
They have a tight end that was a defensive lineman

(40:44):
to start the season. They converted him to tight end.
He's like six five three and thirty pounds and just
crushes people. So they want to be physical, they want
to push you around. The key for me on that
is you've got to get up. If you can get
up seven ten points on them and make them even
a little bit more of a passing team, then you're

(41:06):
gonna save your defense some If this defense is in
a situation where you tous up seven ten points, they're
gonna run right at you four or five like almost
like a service academy. We're gonna run at you four
five six yards of pop and you're not gonna be
able to do anything about it. So game flow is
super important here because if they're playing from behind, you

(41:29):
can make them uncomfortable. If they're playing from ahead in
that environment with that crowd, the Bearcats are in big trump.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
In twin Peak, Junior named a semi finalist for the
Thorpe Award this week is the top defensive back in
the country. Chat for those unaware or maybe not in
full appreciation of his journey, just kind of deliver the
cliff notes version of where I in Twin Peak Junior
was upon arrival and where he is now in this program,

(41:57):
I mean a.

Speaker 9 (41:58):
Walk on, you know, probably a walk on that gets
some consideration because of how great his dad was here
and this isn't he had a great high school career,
but he didn't project as a starting power for safety
at any point in his career. You think maybe a
guy like that, you know, usually what do they turn into,

(42:19):
like a special teams captain, a guy that you know
helps you in the margins, but maybe isn't necessarily like
a front line player. It happened fast when he got here.
You could see immediately like he was going to be
someone that they relied on on special teams early in

(42:39):
his career. And then every time they kept putting him
out there at safety, he kept making plays and kept
making plays, and he forced his way onto the field.
And you got to give the kid a ton of
credit because that is not an easy path to walk
at this level, To come in as a walk on,
even with some of those you know, advantages because of
his dad, he has earned it, and he has put

(43:01):
in the work and he has you know, he's.

Speaker 7 (43:04):
Been one of those guys.

Speaker 9 (43:07):
Walk on. He's like, you're trying to recruit over the right.
Let's just be honest, like, all right, we like this guy,
but but he's a walk on. He's got that Moniker.
We need to go out and we need to get
a star. They can't get Anteline Peak off the field,
and he is. He is really with his physicality, his
ability to help in the run, his ability to create turnovers.

(43:29):
He's just had an outstanding career so far.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
All Right, huge one Saturday, then the tip off to
basketball on Monday. You guys have got it all covered
at Bearcat Journal dot com. Tell them what they can
find and how they can find it.

Speaker 9 (43:43):
Keegan has a great new feature every week that I
really love, that stock Up, stock Down. He's putting a
bunch of video in there now, breaking down plays, letting
fans know exactly why things went right, what went wrong,
who's uh, who's playing well, who's not playing well. That's
one of my favorite new features that we've been focusing
on this year. A ton of podcasts. I might have

(44:05):
got Wally piped last night.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
Oh I had.

Speaker 9 (44:09):
I had some some family stuff and I couldn't last minute,
I couldn't make the podcast. Kegan filled in for me
last night, and it's like, eh, might Kean on Wednesday night,
So I might have Wally pit myself last well, at.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Least you have a good meal tonight, just offset at all?
How's that?

Speaker 9 (44:28):
Yeah? I mean Carne has nachos with that.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
Give you a tip, yeah, give me a yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 9 (44:37):
Have you been to the Mexican market in Erlanger yet?

Speaker 7 (44:41):
I have not.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
I'm writing this down.

Speaker 9 (44:44):
It's right in front of Putt Putt. You know where
Putt Putt is.

Speaker 7 (44:47):
Yeah, it's right there.

Speaker 9 (44:49):
On Dixie Highway. It's right in front of Putt Putt.
They have the most amazing already like marinated out past
or pork with pineapples and onions already in it. All
you got to do is take it home, frid up,
put it on taco check that place out. You will
thank me later. I've never failed you want to wreck.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
I was just gonna say I have learned to take
any and all food advice from.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
You, So thank you.

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(45:55):
Necks in Hebron for the Roundtable Show. It's presented by
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It's not dry till it's ever Dry. I hesitate to
remind you of this because you're gonna ask me that
is not in the script. This is totally unscripted. There's
been a big build up to it, and now I'm
very uncomfortable. What do you What are you gonna have?

Speaker 3 (46:13):
Real quick?

Speaker 6 (46:13):
I know you're recently honored with an award from the
Joe Nuxall Foundation, and I just want you to explain
on air for those who don't know what that was
all about, what went into that, and I want you to.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
Talk about it.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
It was well, I'm gonna make this brief. Then it
was the Joe Nuxall Humanitarian Award. It is presented by
the Joe Nuxall Miracle League Fields. They do it every
year for service in the community and and and uh
they've done it for a number of years. Sparky Anderson
won the award Sean Casey, Marty Brenneman, Charlie Frank from

(46:45):
the Rets community for on a long distinguished panel that
I have no business being being a part of.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
But it was.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
It was an incredible evening. My family was there. My
kids got up and spoke. I did not know that
was going to take place other than the birth of
Casey and Peyton and getting married to Kelly. Was the
proudest moment of my life. I was in I was
in tears watching my kids get up and speak in
front of a room of four hundred and forty people.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
Fran and Phyllis were there as well. That was very cool.

Speaker 9 (47:10):
It was It's just.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
And the reason I talk about this is because they're
just a fabulous organization.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
I don't talk about it because I won the award.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
I talk about it because it's very easy to talk
about what they do because of the impact that they
have in the community and the fact that they decided
to honor me.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
As I told them I wanted to do.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
I wanted to get out of the evening having made
Joe nuxall proud, and I hope I did.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
As he was looking down with a smile on his face.
It was a magical night.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
Now you make me cry.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
I was awesome, man.

Speaker 6 (47:40):
Thank you very quiet, but again, I wanted you to
talk about that because very well, thank.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
You, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
Can I tell you a Halloween Another Halloween story my
Michael Jordan Halloween's yes, yeah, yeah, okay, So we're when
I was working in Chicago with normOn Van Leer. We
were doing afternoons on a m one thousand and one year,
we had Halloween. We had Michael Jordan on the week
after Halloween, and he told the story. And I've always
thought this was the coolest thing. He wanted his kids

(48:06):
to experience a normal Halloween for once because he lives
in a gated community. And yeah, and he's Michael Jordan,
and there's a gate around his house. So one year
he opened up the gates to the neighborhood and invited
everybody to trick or treated his house. Well midway through
the evening, they ran out of candy. Of course, you know,
he had no idea how much candy to buy for Halloween,

(48:28):
so he went to the store to buy candy in
the middle of Halloween. And I've always thought it would
have been the most unbelievable scene to be like in
the Candy Island Target and there's Michael Jeffrey Jordan buying candy.
If I take actor car to take back to his
house to continue to give out, It's just one of
the coolest, like human real things of Michael Jordan, who's like,

(48:50):
you know, a status of like a basketball god.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
But it was just a real human thing that he
told us that I'll never forget that story. It was
the coolest thing.

Speaker 6 (48:58):
Did you hear his comments on load man stuff? Not
a big fan of load management, is he? That's why
people love him forever, absolutely, because you talked about he
wanted to give you put on a show for the
guys in the top row, absolute blue collar job all.

Speaker 4 (49:10):
Day and wanted to see him play and that's why
people love him.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
All right, A couple of things before the bottom of
they are in high school football. Let's do a quick
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(49:35):
and penalties than their opponents. They have had double digit
turnovers in three games in a row, I think, and
five of their seven games at least ten penalties in
a game.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
Something to watch this weekend. Now this I forgot to
tell you. I had this for you.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
This is our hot topic around the NFL, and it
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Off the Field, and I thought it was worth listening
to because it's such an interesting perspective on somebody who's
learning about being an owner of a football team. And
it's Carly Ursa Gordon, one of the sisters who's now
running the coltept. For the passing of Jim mersay and
each game she's down on the sideline, she's on headset

(50:14):
and she's taking notes. And they asked her this week
why she chose to be on the sidelines with a
headset on listening to the coaches taking notes.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
Listen to what she said, I.

Speaker 10 (50:23):
Need to learn more about this. I need to be
able to say, is this person full of bs? Do
they even know what they're talking about? And I think
one of the things that being on the headset has
really helped me learn is to the question earlier. There
is such a complex organism a football team and how

(50:44):
it operates and on game day and you could say, oh,
that person ran that route wrong. When you learn to
find someone tagged the wrong wide receiver and it wasn't
really the player's fault, it was the person that called
it so and it's never I think that's been a
very valuable because it also helps us be able to

(51:04):
know where do we need to make tweaks, what resources
do we need, what are what do we need to fix?
So much of it as comes down to just how
we operate and how things work, and the headsets are
really I wish more I would suggest it for anyone
else that has to pay coaches and GMS millions and
millions of dollars. It helps you make a less expense

(51:26):
in mistake.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
I love I love I love that. I mean, I
I love it.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
I mean, for any odor, you should have that level
of interesting curiosity to know it's a big business. There's
a lot of decisions, a lot of money involved here.
I want to know what's going on, so I understand
the decisions we're making. And how about the admission. I
don't know everything about this, but I want to know more.
And and we talk about accountability from the time go.

(51:52):
And also again I've told you how much I thought
of Jim or saying how much he loved the Colts.

Speaker 4 (51:58):
And you get the feeling when she's on the sideline
is probably as.

Speaker 6 (52:02):
Nerve racket, maybe especially when you're on the headset and
oh my god, what's she gonna think about what I'm
gonna say. But you're looking at her saying, God, this
person wants to win, like winning is the most important thing.
That's why she could be sitting up in the suite
with the champagne and all stuff, and she's down here
with a notepad and the headset on.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
I think that's cooling.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
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(52:59):
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We've got games to talk about. Let's talk with Greg Shoemaker.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
How are you?

Speaker 11 (53:16):
I am wonderful? What a weekend for football man?

Speaker 7 (53:18):
You got the last weekend in.

Speaker 11 (53:20):
Kentucky, and everybody's playing in Kentucky tonight except a couple
of teams, and you know, let's just talk right there.
We'll start there. Yeah, holy Cross is playing Bellevue and
holy Cross looking to go undefeated for the first time
in regular season in school history. I just saw the
update on this.

Speaker 9 (53:38):
They're heading.

Speaker 11 (53:38):
They're up seven to six mid or with six minutes
left in the second quarter, So that's going to be
a tight one. And then over Boone County and Lloyd
tonight Lloyd's nine and oh they haven't finished the regular
season unbeaten since nineteen ninety five. I haven't seen an
update on that one. That one started at seven, though,
so we should be well into.

Speaker 9 (53:57):
It by now.

Speaker 11 (53:58):
So those two games in Kentucky are the key bullet on.
Like I said, it's the last week of the regular
season there. But yeah, in Ohio it's the first week
of the playoffs and in the end of the semi
final weeks of the sectionals, second round of the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
Basically perfect segue.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Let's go to Indiana Lawrenceburg at Franklin County and two
red hot teams colliding.

Speaker 11 (54:24):
Certainly are so since losing to Lawrenceburg. In Week five,
Franklins reeled off five Street wins and they are sitting
at eight and two. They haven't had a six game
winning Street since nineteen ninety nine when they won seven
in a row, and their eight wins in the most
bavous school since going nine to three in twoenty and eleven.
So big days at Franklin County right now. Now. That said,

(54:49):
Lawrence Berg beat them in week five forty to six,
and they are red hot as well, having won eight
in a row, and it's gotten to be a sort
of commonplace for Lawrenceburg. They lose the opener to East
Central and for the fifth time or sixth time in
the last seven years, they've won eight straight at least
coming into this weekend, so they know how to win here.

(55:10):
It's been really great to watch them play and do
what they do. I think they have a real legit
shot and went in the Class three A state title.
Lawrenceburg's also won night in this games in this series,
consecutive games in this series against Franklin County, who last
beat the Tigers in twenty sixteen. So yeah, I mean

(55:31):
that's a big game tomorrow night.

Speaker 9 (55:33):
And we know this much.

Speaker 11 (55:35):
We will have a sectional champion locally from Class three
a Sectional thirty, whether it's Lawrenceburg, Franklin County, South Dearborn,
or Greensburg. Those four teams are still less in that sectional.

Speaker 6 (55:46):
Very good greg back to Ohio got a number nine
Mason at number eight Fairfield. Now these two teams met
up what about a month ago and Fairfield won that
game in ot and now all the rematch.

Speaker 11 (56:00):
Yeah yeah, so rocket, these two teams are very similar.
They're both sitting at five and five, so many similarities
between them. This is both teams set eleventh consecutive playoff
appearance and seventeenth overall by both schools. So if you
think about that these schools being to the both of
them being to eleven straight, but their whole histories of
their school before that, each of them had only been

(56:22):
to the playoffs six times each. So uh, but here's
an interesting thing about that, is too, both these teams
are just a combined fifteen and thirty two in the
postseason in their careers. So uh, it's it's I don't know,
I think through one last night in a must or
last week in a must win game, and I wouldn't
put it past them. This week before you know, Mason,

(56:43):
because they lost in overtime last month in this game
on a two point conversion that they failed to hit
them uh to convert. I think there's a you know,
there's an avenge factor out here. They want to avenge
that loss. And you know, unfortunately the winner will have
to go to the pit and play elder. Round two.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
All right, how about Goshen at Talawanda, And if you
like the running game, get ready for the tail of
two running backs in this one.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 11 (57:11):
Talawanda's running back lams Can Trail's run for twenty one
hundred yards and Gage Crowley at Goshen's run for nineteen
hundred yards. So the first round playoff games with two
running backs that have combined for four thousand yards rushing
and fifty one rushing touchdowns. And Contrail's been fantastic. He's
had one hundred and sixty yards and two touchdowns and

(57:33):
eight of the ten games they played this season, and
I expect this to be a high scoring affair. Gooshan
averages thirty nine a game, Talawana averages thirty six. That
both love to run the ball, but with so many
points it could be a long night if you're a fan.
But I think it's going to be very entertaining. However,
this is the one crazy fact about this. Kallawana is

(57:53):
sitting at nine and one, but they're the seventh seed
in Division three Region twelve. They only beat one team
all season that finished above five hundred. Goshen had seven
wins this season. None of those teams went were above
five hundred. So you know, you're talking about twenty games
and these two teams playing a bunch of teams that
they weren't top notch to say the least. That's for sure,

(58:16):
all right.

Speaker 6 (58:16):
Greg, Marymont at North College Hill and I saw this
at North College Hill has forced twenty five turnovers this year.

Speaker 4 (58:25):
That's getting or done right there.

Speaker 11 (58:28):
That is getting it done. And they have seven players
with at least two takeaways too. In a game like this,
this is going to be a low scoring affair. Marymont,
they only average twenty one points per game, but their
defense has been pretty rock solid behind Jack Simpson, the
CHL Defensive Player of the Year. He's had a great
senior year. He's a four year starter over there. I
hope somebody picks him up. He's probably gonna be a

(58:50):
Mount Saint Joe's type of kid, but a very good
player at this level. It's the age, you know. They've
only had eight playoff appearances their two and seven lifetime.
Of their eighth appearance, and they haven't won a playoff
game since two thousand and one, So big days. I mean,
you got to remember where this program was last year.
They had those shootings and that school was a mess

(59:10):
over there in that program because of all that. And
here they are sitting at eight and two and a
chance to move on as the number six seed in
the tournament here in Division five Region twenty. That's that's
gonna be a fun one for sure.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
All right, look ahead to tomorrow night, set up the
high school Football Tonight Show and all the stuff you'll
be covering at Tri State football dot com.

Speaker 11 (59:30):
Yeah, first of all, the shows from six to eight tomorrow,
No Saint Jay Your's football. We'll get back at our
regular time next week with say next Football and go
six to six forty five and then till eleven on
the Fox Sports thirteen sixty in ESPN fifteen thirty. So
I'm doing the show by myself tomorrow. Got a bunch
of guests, a bunch of coaches coming on. Mark Aefner

(59:51):
from Samol Country Day, David Dransman from Taylor, Brian Walker
from Terpinal joined us, Jeff Cargile from CCPA, Josh Coogle
from Carlisle up there last night an aep rally and
they are eight and two and fired up. And Tyler
Hopperton Mount Saint Joe head coach is going to join
us too. I saw him over at the Elder Mueller

(01:00:11):
game and goes get my local guys some love and
have a great conversation with him in the second hour
tomorrow for about fifteen minutes.

Speaker 9 (01:00:18):
It's really good. All the local kid.

Speaker 11 (01:00:20):
Yeah's one hundred forty four kids on that Mount Saint
Joe team and a bunch of them.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
Are local, doing really really well.

Speaker 11 (01:00:26):
And we'll talk about that lords.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
Excellent, big, big night, Thank you sir. We'll talk next week.

Speaker 11 (01:00:33):
Sound good, guys, Have a great night.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
Great right you as well.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Greg Schumaker High School Football Tonight show in the Tri
State Football dot Com. Up next, we'll head down the
stretch get our fantasy football segment in do a quick
travel of Rockies Road. Might have to talk about two
big games in particular on Saturday, the Rocky might be
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every week. He's the host of Fantastics Insider Football, Serious
XM Fantasy. We welcome in, Dan Klaskans, Dan, how are you.

Speaker 11 (01:01:17):
Going?

Speaker 7 (01:01:18):
Great Lands? Happy Thursday to you both.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
Same to you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Let's let's get into it, and let's get into it
with the in the spirit of the Halloween theme, let's
roll out some tricks and treats based on some maybe
recent trends.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
What do you got for us?

Speaker 7 (01:01:36):
Yeah, yeah, I love Halloween, especially all the candy. But
some good stats for you too. Tricks. Let's start with
Caleb Williams. He's been quite tricky to get into the lineup.
Plants weeks one through three put up twenty three point
four points in Fantasy weeks fourth through eighties average is
twelve point one. He's dead lands in the league. Completion

(01:01:56):
percentage ever expected per Next Champ stats has been a
little bit of a hit or missed, but obviously a
Bengal matchup this week, so maybe that trend can turn around.
One I don't think will turn around is another trick
I have, and that's Juba Hubbards.

Speaker 9 (01:02:08):
We were all.

Speaker 7 (01:02:09):
Excited his fantasy managers to get him back in the lineup,
but over the last two weeks, like he was during
his absence, he's been outperformed by Rico Dwell, who has
literally in about the same amount of carries sixty more
yards looks far more explosive. I expect Dat will be
the guy going forward on the three side of things.
A few better topics. Let's talk about Stefan Diggs, the

(01:02:30):
veteran white Out, starting to fully recover from last year's
aco injury. He's averaged in a twenty nine point five
and a half percent target share per game rate over
his last five contests. He's getting fourteen point two PPR
points in that span. I expect him to continue, especially
how much I love Drake May and miss Patriots all offense,
and perhaps the biggest treat of the season, the first

(01:02:50):
half waiver wire pickup of the year so far, Ron
Day Gatson, the second from the Chargers doing just absolutely
fantastic as Robber's participation rates continuing increase over each the
last three games, and there's a direct correlation there. More
targets theres also increasing, as are his fantasy points twelve
twenty nine and nineteen PPR points. Aronde Gas in the

(01:03:10):
second looking like a potential league winner at the tight
end position.

Speaker 6 (01:03:15):
All right, Dan, let's talk some injuries here, and I
see a couple of big time running backs are among
that list.

Speaker 7 (01:03:22):
Yeah, Rocky definitely, and I do want to get to
the running back. So let's start with big news for tonight. Sorry,
I mixing up that order on your guys notes, But
Lamar Jackson, that's the big news. Maybe Bengal fans out
there aren't real excited to hear him coming back. The
fantasy managers, man, are they delight that they get him
back in the next I expect him to be a
fool go obviously should be in the lineup, so I

(01:03:43):
also expect that to be a big uptick in this
Ravens offense in general, especially that running game that's sputtered
a little bit in his absence. Other quarterback injuries were
monitoring here in Week nine include another hamstring issue. This
one in Washington at Commander's quarterback Jade and Daniels looking
like he's trending in a the action. We want to
keep our eyes on that place in a prime time
game on Sunday night. So that's always Ben had at

(01:04:05):
curve ball. But another primetime quarterback could be even tougher.
Kurt Weill, Kyler Murray in a dream matchup versus Cowboys.
Missed a couple of games coming out of that bye week.
He was a limited participant in the first practice today.
Jakobe Pressett would start. Either quarterback would be a great
play against that Cowboys defense. I'm sure you guys talks
a lot about Joe Flacco. We don't have to hit
on them much here. Wasn't I see him as a

(01:04:25):
limited participant obviously, Chase Higgins brown They're all much higher
up in their fantasy value with him under center versus
Browning the running back you were alluding to, Rock the
one that definitely buzz kill of the week, Cam Skataboo,
the exciting rookie, and that gruesome injury there and have
surgery for even left Philadelphia out for the season. Tyron Tracy,

(01:04:47):
the next man up, there in the Giants and his
work to play a less sexy one. Nonetheless for the
New York team that is starting to lose it to
momentum as they have to check at the Chiefs running back.
He's a week the week with an MCL issue. Not
going to go on ir but Kareem Hunt, rookie ber
Shard Smith carry that load looking forward to that matchup,
should be Fantasy friendly on Sunday. And then some receiver.
And there's Arry mccorn a lost season continues reaggravated injury.

(01:05:11):
He's been ruled out for Week nine here now again
with the quad Drake London limited predictionant with the hip
will see of Michael Pennix also returns under center for
the Falcons. Kook and the Ku is expected with return
Fantasy's top white out of Smith's in one game and
then the bye week with that angle, Nico Collins's clear
concussion protocol. Expect him back this week for the Texans.
And I'm real excited to get Brock Bauers back out

(01:05:32):
there for the Raiders. He's looking good to go following
his ye with that knee injury.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
All right, let's do it as we always do it.
To wrap it up with the studs, duds and sleepers.

Speaker 7 (01:05:43):
Oh yeah, yeah, we're doing pretty good on these ones here.
I know I'm not sure you guys are tracking it
quite like me, but he is to say we've been
going pretty again. So let's hope it continues that. We'll
start with Justin Herbert loving him at Tennessee. The Titans
have seed a twenty five plus fantasy points him. Back
to back week the fantasy quarterbacks, Berbert scored twenty nine

(01:06:03):
plus in this list due that should add up to
another big performance here in Week nine. Also Michael Pittman Junior.
He's making my stud list at Pittsburgh wide receiver seven
on the season, twelve plus fantasy points at five to
six and all but two games of the season. Gets
the Steelers defense that isn't really shutting down too many
receivers on the dud side of things, I am putting

(01:06:23):
vote next year. It's a tough matchup this week against Houston.
It's on the road. I think you can do better
at quarterback Jordan Mason, He'll also be taking a seat.
He's at Detroit. Not a great matchup there. Plus with
Darreon Jones back, I mean he's back to that time share,
which it's all a lowis route percent a share, and
he sees and low in snapshare as well. Here with

(01:06:44):
his return with Darreon Jones and then a couple of
second spam night there's a cowboy or another cowboy matchup
we're going to pick on here at the Arizona running
back expected to get to start for at least one
more week while we wait on Trade Benson the return.
So that's a good spot. He's a back end RV
two sous. You don't have to be a fantasy ad
mancy mind to figure out that the Bengals can't guard
a tight end. So my sleep for the week and

(01:07:06):
my bold prediction of the week coast and love them.
First round pick was a been a bit of a
fantasy bus through his birthday games. I'm predicting his first
career touchdown comes a pay course stadium this week. I
got him a tight end twelve like every other tight
end each week, they must start against the Bengals.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
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to be a big weekend for the dav Tell everybody
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Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
Income excellent, excellent, Thank you sir. Good touching up. We'll
do it again next week. Yes, yes, you guys have
a great all right you as west.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
Dan Klaskin's our weekly fantasy football segment. Final segment of
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metro dot com slash careers. All right, let's cut to
the chase. It is a rather significant weekend coming up.
Not one Super Bowl. You're involved in a Super Bowl

(01:08:35):
you're involved in.

Speaker 6 (01:08:36):
But to set this up for us, yes, sir, so Bronson,
my first grader, our team, Harrison White. We are in
the Super Bowl against Harrison Green. We've had a great year, undefeated, untied,
unscored upon. Wait a minute, repeat that, undefeated, untied, unscored,
unscored upon, no points allowed the entire season.

Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
Holy cow.

Speaker 6 (01:08:58):
Got a tough team we're going against in the Super
Bowl though, so that'll be tough. And then my sixth
grader bo our team trying to make it two in
a row. I won the Super Bowl last year, faced
a really good East Central team. Uh, they're really really
good teams. So uh, I'm gonna battle.

Speaker 4 (01:09:14):
It out this Saturday at Franklin County High School. Man excited.

Speaker 6 (01:09:19):
I took the weekend off here, so uh, I can't wait.
And I hope the boys played great. And it's just amazing.
My you know, my oldest son is youth football career
after this weekend is over.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
How about that?

Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
It's wild just boom, just flash gone.

Speaker 6 (01:09:34):
But a great group of kids on both teams, great
bunch of coaches, So we're gonna give it a shot.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
Is the game playing done or is it still being tweaked.

Speaker 4 (01:09:42):
The hay is never in the barn.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
Lance, the hay is never should put that on a
T shirt? Yes, the hay is never in the barn.

Speaker 6 (01:09:49):
Yes, we got we got all kinds of secret film
locations when we're breaking down. And drones, Yeah yeah, what informants.

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
Drones flying over the other team's practice.

Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
So what you're tying to say, I've already said too much?

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
Well, good luck to send my best to both of them.
What a what a really cool thing, Uh to be
there and be with your kids and and be a
part of that. That that is awesome. Thank you, Thank joy.
Boys work hard. All right, we are We're done. Thanks
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Appreciate him coming out. We're done.

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