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Speaker 4 (00:53):
At six oh seven on seven hundred WLW were at
Longnecks in rich Wood, Lance Pacallister, Rocky Boytman. It's Thursday night.
It must be the Roundtable Show. Three hours to unfold.
We've got Bengals, We've got uc Bearcats. We've got some
high school football to get to. We have some fantasy
football to get to. A regular cast of characters along
the way, and so much to discuss, including as always,

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a giveaway this week, Rock we have one of these
fine Sean Volker prints that is a very cool Bengal
tiger print.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
We're gonna give away this week.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
Ask your server as she walks around for a ticket,
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Speaker 3 (01:28):
Give it to her. We'll draw an eight. Gotta be
here at eight to win.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
Someone's going home with the Sean Volker Bengal print. We
appreciate him sending that to us each and every week
to give away. We are creatures of habit and our
bodies are conditioned for Sunday Bengals football. You just said
it off here. It seems like the Bengals last played
like a month and a half ago.

Speaker 5 (01:49):
Yeah, yeah, a long time, but a fantastic game to
talk about, and we battled it around before a pregame
on the Thursday show, and I mean, what a great game.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
And now a sense of renewed juice and optimism and
if you continue to look at the AFC North and
look at the AFC picture, things are still in play
for this team. We teetered on the edge of maybe
trading away players, maybe starting to look at things for
next season, the draft, and now all of a sudden,

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through the power of Joe Flacco, this team has has
some hope and some optimism.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
And the Bengals did something they've traditionally not done.

Speaker 6 (02:31):
Right.

Speaker 5 (02:31):
They go outside the organization. They make a in season
trade that's happened a handful of times in thirty forty years,
and it's turned out to be a great move, and
it's it's really consolidated this team. The belief is back,
and yeah, we go from we got to trade everybody
way and get more draft picks to maybe we got
to make some trades to you know, heighten this roster

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here moving forward.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
Let's take a look at some headlines and then we
will go.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
We start with the Bengals.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
They continue prepped for Sunday's matchup versus thee and to
seven Jets.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Today.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
Trey Hendrickson again limited in practice, but at least was
on the practice field again. Cam Sample limited today, Tanner
Hudson was a full go, Charlie Jones was a full go.
The news on the Jets side this is rather significant.
Sauce Gardner did not practice again today. He's in concussion protocol.
Garrett Wilson did not practice today with a knee. You

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could argue those are their two, if not their two best,
two of their three best players on the roster, and
neither practice for the second consecutive day. That'll be very
interesting to watch tomorrow with the injury designations with practice
the developing situation with the Bengals. Within the last hour
or so, Ben Baby at ESPN ESPN dot com is

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reporting that linebacker Logan Wilson has requested a trade. Playing
time has diminished over the last couple of weeks, obviously
with more snaps and opportunities given to Barrett Carter and
to Demetrius Knight junior, Logan Wilson wanting to play more
and not getting that opportunity here. We'd like to do
that someplace else. We'll get into the ramifications of that

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and if it would make sense to deal Logan Wilson
in a bit. Following a second reduction vote of candidates
in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Seniors category, thirty
four players remain under consideration for the class of twenty
twenty six. They include Ken Anderson, Lamar Parrish, and Isaac Curtis.
Those three advancing the next countdown is to nine candidates

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in about a month. Ravens late this afternoon announced the
signing of defensive end Carl Lawson. The former Bengal had
five sacks for the Dallas Cowboys a year ago. Thursday
Night Football Tonight, Vikings are at the Chargers eight fifteen
on Fox Sports thirteen sixty U see takes on Baylor
in a Saturday homecoming matchup at Nippert Scott Saderfield. Named

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to the Dodd Trophy Midseason watch List, it is presented
annually to the nation's top coach. More of the Bearcats
in about an hour from now, when Chad Brundle checks in.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Baseball will be the J's.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
And Dodgers in the World Series Game one Tomorrow night
from Toronto. Red Starred Basement key Brian Hayes wins the
twenty twenty five Fielding Bible Award at third base. The
award voted on by a panel of experts. They consider
statistical analysis, the eye test, and other factors they wish
to utilize. The award given at each position. Today, Soccer

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FC Cincinnati began work for its playoff opener Monday against
the Columbus Crew MLS finalist for the year end awards
today include Evander for the MVP Award and Nick Hagland
for Comeback Player of the Year award. In the NBA,
you talk about a developing situation. We gotta find some
time for this later on Holy talk about tip of

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the iceberg stuff. Portland Trailblazers head coach Chauncey Billups, Miami
Heat guard Terry Rozier, and former Cavs player and assistant
Damon Jones arrested today in a wide ranging investigation into
illegal sports betting and rigged poker games backed by the mafia.
The deeper you read into this, the more details you

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read it is it's both wow, how did that happen?
And then there's also a thought of will is anybody
surprised that this has happened?

Speaker 7 (06:18):
Right?

Speaker 5 (06:19):
Sooner?

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Sooner?

Speaker 4 (06:20):
Yeah, we'll get into a little bit of that before
we're done. At Hockey Cyclones home against the Comments tomorrow night.
It's Peanuts night. The Clones wear Peanuts Great Pumpkin jerseys
for the game. All right, Our our headlines are set,
our guest list Tonight's Tonight Trags coming up at six
twenty CLNS Media at seven o six to night Chad Brendel,

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Bearcat Journal seven point thirty six. Greg Shoemaker a circle
four high school football games. We will discuss it at
seven fifty. Dan Klaskins as your fantasy football fix in
and around all that whole bunch of Bengals conversation. Let's
get to it as we continue with Trags. He's Rocky
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Speaker 3 (08:05):
Along the way, let's talk with the man who's got.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
It covered on the Bengals beat for c l NS
sinceiwthwy dot com, host of the Jungle Roar podcast on YouTube.
He's the man they call trags Mike Petralia, how are
we doing tonight?

Speaker 8 (08:19):
And you know Rocky.

Speaker 7 (08:20):
Sometimes he'll text you and, uh, the guy that's supposed
to show up at the right location shows up at
the wrong location, not saying that ever.

Speaker 6 (08:29):
Happened to me or anything.

Speaker 5 (08:32):
I still blame Lance, Mike. I still blame Lance, no
matter what.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Is Mike, I wonder.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
Let let's go yeah, yeah, let's uh, let's go big picture. First,
paint us a little picture, give us a comparing contrast
of just kind of the mood of the vibe around
this team. You're around him every day from say two
weeks ago to now with the arrival of Joe Flacco,
and how this team has played since and and where
things stand.

Speaker 7 (08:59):
Well, that's a great question.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Lance.

Speaker 7 (09:00):
That is markedly different. It's markedly more positive. And the
word I would use is there's significantly more energy in
the locker room because I think the Bengals have been
interjected with.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
The sense of.

Speaker 7 (09:16):
Hope that they have a guy in Joe Placo who
has a strong arm. He's won a Super Bowl, He's
been through the riggers, He's played as a starting quarterback,
He's played on many teams as a backup. He knows
his role, and even as a backup to Joe Burrow,
he still has this calmness about him and this leadership

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that he can provide, certainly to the younger players. And
I think that was great last week before the Pittsburgh game.
But I think going out and actually having the game
Placo did, playing as cleanly as he did, watching the
offense perform so much more efficiently, and getting the win
in the closing seconds gave this team the sense that, Okay,

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now we can get back to where we were posts
a pre Joe Burrow injury, and I think that you know,
the energy and the hope are the two things that
I've noticed pick up over the last couple of weeks.

Speaker 5 (10:14):
And tracks to that note with Flacco come in and
everyone knows how beloved Joe Burrow is and how loved
he is in the locker room, and how the players,
how he reacts with them, how they react with to him.
If you pick up on any similarities or differences between
Joe Burrow and Joe Flacco, just with how the players
view him or how he, I guess it competes on

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a day to day basis.

Speaker 7 (10:40):
That is a very difficult question to answer, Rocky, and
certainly Joe Flacco has been asked that question. We haven't
had the chance to interview Joe Burrow yet since his injury,
but Joe Flacco and I asked him this yesterday. He
is trying, I think, to give Joe Burrow his space
and let Joe Burrow talk when he wants to talk,

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and not you know, step over any boundaries. And you know,
Jake Browning is a part of this equation as well,
because let's not forget after three starts, Jake Browning was
replaced by Joe Flacco when they went out and made
the trade. So it's kind of an odd dynamic that's
going on. But I think again, Joe Flacco.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Being the veteran he is.

Speaker 7 (11:25):
Comes in, he's not stepping on any toes. He's very
respectful of everybody, and you know, he's not trying.

Speaker 6 (11:32):
To be Joe Burrow.

Speaker 7 (11:34):
He's not trying to do what Joe Burrow did. He's
trying to come in and just run a very functional,
highly functional offense with great weapons around it, and make sure.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
They perform to the level they're capable of.

Speaker 7 (11:48):
But off the field, I think, you know, the best
way to put it with Joe Flacco, I think is
he's laying low and trying to let you know everybody.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
In the locker room come to him.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
You talked with Dan Pitcher, Bengals up ins coordinator, he
is two years just over two years younger than than
Joe Flacco, about Dan being able to pick up things
from from Joe Flacco and and how Dan thinks that
maybe even Joe Burrow could.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Pick up things from Joe Flacco.

Speaker 7 (12:17):
Well, I think this is really about Joe Flacco. When
the play's not there, he gives up on it and says,
we're going to live to play another down. When Joe
Burrow sees the play breakdown, I think one of the.

Speaker 6 (12:31):
Critiques of Joe Burrow, and.

Speaker 7 (12:32):
Burrow has acknowledged this himself. He tries to force the
play into something productive.

Speaker 8 (12:39):
And I you know, I.

Speaker 7 (12:40):
Think one of the things that he's learned, even as
a superstar quarterback that he is Burrow needs to more
often live to play another down. And on the play
he got hurt against the Jacksonville Jaguars. You know, Joe Sorry,
Zach Taylor and Dan Picture both have acknowledged he probably
should have given up on the plane, gotten rid of

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the ball, but instead he held onto the ball and eventually,
as we know, got sacked and injured on the play
injuring his foot. And you know, that's one of the
lessons I think comes with time, even even Joe Burrow
needs to learn. And I think that's one of the
things that Dan Picture is learning from Joe Flacco is lived,

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lived to play another down.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
And you make a great point, it's it's even less
about okay, you know, making a player, not making a play.
It's about Joe Burrow's health. Give up on one and
Zach Taylor or any football coach in the NFL will say,
you know what, we rather have you be healthy than you,
you know, twirl around and throw a pass seventy five
yards down the field and we get a touchdown. They'll

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they'll give up that touchdown or even that win to
have a healthy quarterback throughout the length this season.

Speaker 8 (13:54):
No question.

Speaker 7 (13:55):
And I think that's what the Bengals have to, you know,
get through to Joe Burrow, and Joe Burrow has to
be accepting of this. I think he will be. But
you know, Joe Burrow is a stubborn athlete, and I
mean that in the most positive sense. He wants to
make whatever is in front of him work.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
And he has that mind.

Speaker 7 (14:17):
You know, Rocky, he processes so much information that when
he processes that much information, he doesn't.

Speaker 5 (14:24):
Want to waste it. He wants to make use of.

Speaker 7 (14:27):
It and he wants to make something out of nothing.
And Joe Flacco's not like that. He is, Okay, if
the play's not there, I'm not going to force it.
I'm going to again live to play another down. And
you know that's the difference between the two quarterbacks. And
I think that I'm curious to see how Joe Burrow
plays when he returns, presumably in mid December, of the

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Bengals are A in it and B he's healthy enough
to play. I'm curious to see if we see some
very subtle, nuanced changes in the way Burrow a tax defenses.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
Trag's Jamar Chase continues to be must listen to every
Thursday when he holds court. Today, tell explain to listeners
what he said in terms of his rate on Joe
Burrow through this and what was his reaction to Joe
Flacco eating at restaurants by himself.

Speaker 7 (15:18):
Great, Okay, First of all, Jamar Chase ain't going out
to restaurants by himself.

Speaker 5 (15:24):
We learned that today.

Speaker 8 (15:26):
And if he deals and he's.

Speaker 7 (15:28):
With Joe Flacco, he's gonna pull Joe Flacco aside and say, hey, Joe,
we're going in the back room. We're gonna get a
private waiter or waitress and have her or him or
her serve us, and we're gonna have a nice quiet
meal alone.

Speaker 5 (15:44):
We don't need to be out.

Speaker 7 (15:45):
In public looking at other people. The thing he said
about Joe Burrow that was interesting Lance is that he
thinks that Joe Burrow is in a pretty good space mentally,
and I thought that was pretty telling. And he thinks
that Joe Burrow's sporting the rock star hairdo you know
the hair over his face that we saw before the

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Steeler game. That was pretty funny, but it's Jamar said
it's hard to read Burrows sometimes in terms of his mood,
and he tried to stay away from that as much
as possible. But what he did tell us is he
thinks that Burrows had a pretty good headspace.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
Schamar Stewart return from the ankle injury, didn't have a
game that caught your eye, certainly on Thursday night. Some
of that I would think rust of not playing for
a month either way. Yeah, they need more from him
on Sunday, right.

Speaker 7 (16:45):
Especially if they give Trey Hendrickson another week to recuperate
from the hip injury. They need Shamar Stewart to be better,
more impactful. He only played I believe, twenty two snaps
of the fifty eighth defensive snaps on Thursday night against Pittsburgh,
and to his own admission yesterday, he said it was
a sub far performance. I need to be better, but

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I think I will be better once I get more reps.
He also said the ankle, any ankle injury is a
tricky thing because it can you know, improve very quickly,
but it can also you know, you know, worsened very
quickly if you don't treat it carefully, if you don't

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listen to your body. So that's one thing I think,
you know, Samar Stewart wants to go. I think he
wanted to get on the field against the Steelers just
to get the feel of playing game speed again on
the ankle. This week, I think Shamar Stewart will be
more of an impact and he should be against this
Jets offensive line and against I'm going to guess it's

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justin fields just because of his ability to run the
ball and what he did against the Bengals in Week
two of twenty twenty one. I think, you know, the
US are going to go.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
With justin fields.

Speaker 7 (18:02):
But we'll find out on Sunday.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
All Right, tregs for everybody wants to read, watch and
follow all you have that's all over Bengals coverage.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
Tell them how they can go about doing that.

Speaker 7 (18:14):
Well, We're going to have a story up shortly tonight
about Josh Newton talking about DJ Turner's emergence this year
as a star cornerback in the NFL. We're also going
to have a breakdown of the Logan Wilson trade demand
that Ben Baby of ESPN broke late this afternoon.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
We'll have that up on Stealing s Sincy with.

Speaker 5 (18:34):
A y dot com.

Speaker 7 (18:35):
You can follow my Jamar Chase interviews from today's press
conference on Twitter at Trags tr Ags and as always,
the Jungle War podcast page at YouTube YouTube dot com
slash at Jungle Roar Pod.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
Always fantastic stuff, always good catching up. We'll talk again
next week. Thank you.

Speaker 7 (18:58):
All right, gentlemen, take care Tanks Trags.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
He's the man we call Trags, Mike Petralia. And that
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I think this is a very obvious one. Our Ovation
Standing Ovation to Jamar Chase, who turned it in absolutely
still hard to believe, incredible performance on Thursday Night Football
targeted what twenty three times twenty three somethings.

Speaker 5 (20:32):
It's everything I talk about all the time.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
Just kill the ball to your playmakers.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
Fill him sixteen catches, one hundred and sixty one yards
a touchdown. He wons AFC Offensive Player of the Week honors,
and I swear I thought at halftime he came out
of the locker room third quartery makes a catch right away,
and I'm thinking he's gonna get twenty catches.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Tonight they kept doing the same out to the sideline,
and the Steelers just they had no ant. They just
kept letting him do it. They had no answer, no
adjustment to it.

Speaker 5 (20:58):
And in credit the Bengals for if it's working, keeping
doing it. And I've always told you Lance, the team
that used to do that more than anybody that I played,
the Patriots, if they found a play that worked, would
do it again and again and again and again until
you stopped it. And then once you adjusted, then they
would go on the next thing. So the guy him
the ball in multiple ways. As you know, I always say,
if you're a coach and you're standing up at the

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press box or press conference after the game after a loss,
you would much rather say, you know what, we went
to our best players a lot tonight, and they had
an answer for it. Hats off to them.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (21:32):
And that's what the Bengals are doing. And Joe Flacco
probably doesn't know the ins and outs of every scheme
and every call, but he knows that number one is
usually going to be open and give him.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
The ball, yep.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
And just keep taking what they're giving me. If they're
gonna give it to us, we'll just keep taking it.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
He was asking.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
Charlie Goldsmith wrote a great piece this week for Charlie's
Chalkboard about how many catches Jamar Chase might be able
to get in a game. And Jamar even said today
when he was asking about it, he thought, He looked, paused,
and he thought, and then he said, I realized that,
you know, seventeen eighteen a game. And you know, most
people who would say that, you'd say, oh, come on,

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but Jamar, I I it's really not. That's not like
a one time thing. He could do that. He can
make a run at those type of numbers every week.

Speaker 5 (22:15):
It seems he's confident. He's so savvy. He's the best athlete.
But he's so savvy he can tell he knows the game.
He knows that the nuances of how to get open
and he's so dang strong. Once he catches it, he
breaks tackles.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Like a running back. I mean it's that. The power
is incredible.

Speaker 5 (22:34):
Absolutely incredible. Yeah, And look, is he gonna be able
to turn in fifteen plus catch games every single week? No,
because defense are gonna counter.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
And then it's t Higgins who has a big game benefits,
or it's Chase Brown.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
The beauty of the offense.

Speaker 5 (22:49):
Every other weapon on that offense should be thrilled about
this because it's gonna happen. I mean, I guarantee you
Aaron Glenn is sitting in his house right now for
the Jets. One. Look, guys, I can sit here and
watch number one catch fifteen twenty balls, all right, So
do whatever you gotta do to take him out of
the game. And that show up some other things.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
The other part of what unfolded on Thursday night that
allowed this to happen, or contributed to this happening. They
actually discovered a running game. They averaged six point two
yards of carry, Chase Brown averaged nine point eight. Those
numbers are unrealistic week to week, but just some semblance
of a running game makes the defense think instead of

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just pass past past thinking all right, they might run
and Chase Brown's rumbling for twenty seven yards for thirty
seven yards and gashing them. That's when your offense just
opens up and the playbook goes wide open.

Speaker 5 (23:39):
Well, it's funny because on the Thursday show you were
talking about, look, we should just abandon the run game,
and I was like, look, you gotta hang in there
with that thing. Check the p You can't just you
can't just go away from a run game. Takes some
time to establish. I need to check the podcast. That
was a great conversation about it.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
No, it was good.

Speaker 5 (23:57):
If you didn't hear I was on the or on
the you know the.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
You don't want to pound square pegs into round holes.
If you're back, you're head into the wall.

Speaker 5 (24:07):
Just because of how they were built. But but look,
I think what happened was, first of all, and I
found this out in every game I've played in or
called like something works. I mean, it's still an emotional game.
It's still something that you feed and get energy off of. Yes,
So what was in that third series Chase Brown breaks
that one for twenty seven I think everyone goes, oh

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my god, we can do this. You know, the offensive
line gets some juice behind and say, boy, let's pour
them all. Let's do it again. So it has a
tendency to snowball. And credit the Bengals and Zach Taylor
for still leaning on that as they got some momentum.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
The beneficiary of all this, of course, Joe Flacco, who
played very well on Thursday night and he has gone viral,
as they say, over the last day for his comments
yesterday that everybody's buzzing about and I figured, how can
we talk about it and not let you hear the
two minute exchange yesterday? Joe who every time he talks,
I said you yesterday. The more he talks, the more

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fascinating I find the guy because he is such a
just a sounds like such a wise guy. Why is
beyond his years even at age forty? And he was
asked innocently enough by Joe Daniman what it's been like
being here this quick change in life and his family
stayed behind in Cleveland, and what it's like being here

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on his own, and what it's like being out eventually
on his own. Listen to Joe Flacco talking about how
his life has changed as as quarterback, husband and dad.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Here's Joe Flacco from yesterday.

Speaker 9 (25:36):
The good thing, I guess you could say is that
I was in Cleveland by myself.

Speaker 6 (25:40):
You know, my family was in New Jersey.

Speaker 9 (25:41):
We decided to do that this year because last year
we decided to do it the other way, and this
year we just said, hey, let's keep the kids in
their routine. And you know, see how that goes. And
there's been challenges with that. You know, I love being
there and around them and doing all those things, but
at the same time, like they get in their routine
and having a lot of fun back at home. Early

(26:02):
on in the season, they came out to Cleveland and
they're gonna come out to this week's game. And I
think there's always a challenge of sitting in a room
by yourself and being lonely. So for me, it's trying
to find ways to maybe stay over here a little
bit longer and then you know, just kind of take
myself out of that mindset, call home, go sit at
a restaurant, buy myself and realize that, man, that's pretty

(26:23):
enjoyable to do.

Speaker 6 (26:26):
You know. After there's not too many situations, I tell you,
I tell people all the time, I used.

Speaker 9 (26:32):
To see guys sitting at a bar by themselves, or
you know, just sitting by themselves eating and grabbing a
little meal, and like, man, I feel so baded for
that guy. You almost want to go join them. And
now I realize, like that dude was in heaven. And
not to say that that's that's obviously not what I want.

Speaker 6 (26:50):
I'd rather.

Speaker 9 (26:51):
I'd rather be at home, sitting at the dinner table
with my kids and hearing what the hell they were
talking about all day. But there are but but if
you have to do it, then might as well take
advantage of it.

Speaker 6 (27:01):
So, you know, just little things like that.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Or Cincinnati and is starting to see you at restaurants
and take pictures and say hello.

Speaker 6 (27:07):
I guess so maybe a little bit.

Speaker 9 (27:09):
I try to get there early, you know, I'll go
eat the four thirty dinner and and and and beat
and beat everybody up, beat everybody out, out of work
and out of the house.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
Joe Flacco yesterday, two minutes that will live forever in
the minds of Benga, so relatable on so many different levels.
Be it athlete, be it husband, be it dad, be
it just a human being.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
That was fantastic.

Speaker 5 (27:31):
That was fantastic. I mean, look, my especially my second
half of my years in the league, and I didn't
have a family. I did and have a wife for
kids or anything, but I was on my own, and
there was a strange calmness of being able to go eat,
be by yourself. You know, and you and I would.
I'm a routine guy. You know that I would go

(27:52):
to the same place on Thursday and the same place
on Wednesday, the whole deal. But uh, yeah, I think
he's he's in brak it and I'm sure he misses
his kids. But thine also knows. Look, I'm I'm here
to do a job, and this is not something that's
gonna last a year or two years. This is like
another two month sort of thing. So I'm gonna dial
in and enjoy the quiet moments while I can but

(28:14):
focus on being a good player.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
You will. You travel every week for ESPN.

Speaker 4 (28:18):
What could we find a spot of Rocky boyman sitting
and eating and reflecting on life by himself.

Speaker 5 (28:23):
What really, all you have to do is if you
find the nearest first watch in the town I'm in,
and you go there at what eight thirty am? Eight am?
Because I get up, I workout, and I go I
find the first watch, I order the same thing. You
you will find me. That's where I will be.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
You are truly creature of habit.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
Looking up in the dictionary see Rocky boyman, that is beautiful.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
Have you ever got you know what I've done? I've got,
I will, and I will do this several times. I'll
go to a baseball game, Reds game by myself. I
like moving around and that. Not that I leave Kelly
at home on purpose, but if she wasn't around, go
to the game. I like moving around and sitting in
different spots in the stadium all by myself to watch.
I tried that, but i'd like to if you've been

(29:06):
to a movie by yourself.

Speaker 5 (29:08):
That's what I was gonna say. I've done that a
lot again, especially when in my single days. Yeah, oh,
there's oddly coming now. My friend Jack comes with me
usually when I go to the movies, But other than that,
it's just me.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
You got a flask in your sock or something?

Speaker 8 (29:22):
What are you?

Speaker 3 (29:22):
What are you talking about? Yes, you used to.

Speaker 5 (29:27):
That was my younger day.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
There are so many levels of you that either amuse me,
confuse me, or really bother me.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Well continue, it's the Cincinnati.

Speaker 4 (29:38):
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Speaker 3 (30:40):
You want to am paying attention to him. It was clean, smooth.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
We'll go with DJ Turner, whose interception heck of an
interception along the sidelines. I also think Geno Stone gets
some credit for delivering the hit which may have loosed
him that thing up, and DJ strips it away for
an incredible pick and gets his feet in upon review
for our defensive play the game.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
While we're on the defensive side of things.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
The news of the day, as reported by Ben Baby
at ESPN ESPN dot com, Logan Wilson has requested a trade.
I don't think anybody should be could be surprised at this.
He's a veteran, he's a captain. He's been the starting
linebacker for his time here in Cincinnati, and the Bengals
made a calculated move to go younger at the position,

(31:24):
and they are playing two two rookie linebackers and Barrett
Carter and Dimitri's Night junior, and Barrett Carter has replaced
Logan Wilson. He's had some flashes, he's also had some misstackles.
I think he's tied for I think he's had at
least three miss tackles each of the last two weeks.
But if your Logan will, let's talk from Logan's perspective.
You know how it is, as you become a veteran

(31:46):
later in your career, if somebody takes away your playing
time and you don't feel like you're done, you want
to play somewhere, so you seek an opportunity, or at
least tell the team you'd like to pursue an opportunity
someplace else if you can be traded.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
Look, everybody to some degree is looking out for themselves
in this deal, right, and Logan Wilson, I think has
earned the right to do that. Been a veteran, I'm
sure he saw what happened in the draft and kind
of got a little indication of what may be happening.
I think from his perspective, although Barret Carter did lead
the Bengals and tackles on Thursday, I think he's looking

(32:23):
just saying, is there not a way to, you know,
spell Barrett Carter in a little bit and give him
some packages and still have me involved. I think it's
the abruptness of the very definitive instead of like rotation.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
It went straight to Barrett's the starter on every snap,
and Logan will be worked in on some packages. And
it just like from zero to sixty five miles an hour,
it happened.

Speaker 5 (32:47):
Yeah, and again having two rookie linebackers. I still think
even though yes, his production and the flash plays are
not there, I still think there's something about having a
veteran presence in that linebacking court.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
I mean, what we you know.

Speaker 5 (33:00):
I remember, just going back to my Titans days. You know,
Randall Godfrey was a linebacker, been in the league a
long time, and he would he would play bass defense,
you know, but when they would go nickel or dime,
or would go Tennessee package, I would come in, you
know that kind of thing. But but you still had
him out there and you're still involved, and I felt
like that was important. Yes, he was not he was

(33:22):
at a stage in his career where he couldn't be
out there every play. Getting him out there to some degree.
I hope they find a way to do it.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
And credit Logan Wilson, who when this became, this the
original news of Barrett taking his spot. Basically, Logan has
been very upfront and supportive of Barrett Carter in the
locker room. There's a clip of him, you know, with
his you know arm alongside Barrett Carter saying I'm here
for him to help in any way I can. Which

(33:50):
is the pro that Logan Wilson is. That's how he
carries himself. On the other side, if you're the organization
and right now they're backup linebackers beyond Logan Wilson, it's
Orren Burks and Shaka Heyward, that's it. And they've got
another on the practice squad who nobody knows, but organizationally,
if I'm the Bengals, I'm saying, we understand your frustration,

(34:11):
but privately and publicly, you want the experience of him.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
Depth is there is he in the NFL.

Speaker 5 (34:19):
There is absolutely no scenario where they are gonna grant
him a trade. That's expose yourself.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
I mean, you leave yourself without a whole lot of depth,
counting on two rooking linebackers.

Speaker 5 (34:30):
That is the business, and it's the hard side of
the business. It happens everybody to some degree. And yeah,
for him, they're not going to trade him because, yes,
something happens in one of those two rookies, which is
likely going to happen in a seventeen game season. You
want a guy in there that can go in and play,
knows the defense without getting a lot of practice reps.
That's a good point because the starters get most of

(34:51):
the reps, but a backup comes in and as she was, like,
oh my god. But if it's a guy like Logan Wilson,
you know, and you're al Golden, you say, okay, well
he knows what to do here. It's just a matter
of dorn it.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
How about this tweet from Charlie Goldsmith a few minutes ago.
He tweets, when you bentioned defensive captain and an established
starter during the season, you take a risk and open
yourself up to consequences like the Logan Wilson. Like Logan
Wilson requesting a trade, the Bengals bet on Barrett Carter.
The organizational decision to bench Wilson was surprising, and it

(35:24):
was clear at that time that it could have a
big ripple effect. Wilson was asked about his future with
the team in an interview right away whether there could
be more pressure on Carter now there's even more pressure
on the front office and coaching staff. They have to
have been right about the rookies for those consequences to.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Be worth it.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
I mean, they put their chips on two rookie linebackers
and said, go show us what you got. And with
that comes there's gonna be moments where you say, that's
why we drafted him, And there's gonna be moments where
Al Golden probably covers his eyes going what were.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
They doing on that play?

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Right?

Speaker 5 (35:58):
And that's the reality situation, which is why you and
I were both on the side of let's let's ease
him in a little bit kind of thing. But I
you know, for they have their reasons of doing things.
They want some more, some more splash plays out of
that group, So they're gonna throw him in the fire.
I guess they're you know Al Golden saying the only
way is gonna get experience is to go in there

(36:18):
and play. Yeah, it's the only way is gonna get better.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
All right, we've put one in the books. Let's take
a look at already. Wow, how about that. Let's take
a look at our seven o'clock hour. I see Chad
Breundle Bearcat journal at the seven oh six. You see
with a homecoming matchup against the Baylor Bears. You talk
about two high scoring football teams. You see has averaging
thirty six points a game and conference play and Baylor's
averaging thirty five. Two quarterbacks that can sling it seven

(36:44):
twenty two. A little bit more on the Bengals. A
couple of things that Charlie Goldsmith told me last night
on Sports Talk about the running game at about the
youth on the defense, and about Cam Taylor. Brent Greg
Schuemaker has your Tri State Football dot Com and high
school football Tonight preview coming up at seven thirty six,
and then Dan Klaskins your Fantasy football fix at seven fifty.

(37:04):
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the Jets and the status of that team at oh
and seven. I've pulled out a list of their quarterbacks
over the years. It is rather bleak what the Jets
have tried at the quarterback position, I am in recent years.
It's been a few names, yes, all of that. Maybe
even time for ping pong tables and locker rooms. As

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Speaker 4 (38:25):
All right, here we go, second of three hours unfolding
on a Thursday night, hanging out a long Next say
in rich Wood, Lance Pacallister, Rocky Boyman. We've covered Bengals.
This is the hour we sprayed to all fields. A
little u see football, a little bit on the high
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into the Bengals in our next segment, and much more
at the eight o'clock hour, but without further ado, let's talk.

(38:47):
You see Bearcats number twenty one in the country, winners
of six straight, one of two unbeatens in the Big twelve,
and at home at Knippert for homecoming on Saturday versus
the Baylor Bears. For more on that from Bearcat Journal
Chad Brendle.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
How are you?

Speaker 1 (39:05):
I'd like to request the trade.

Speaker 5 (39:09):
What franchise would you go to? Chad?

Speaker 1 (39:12):
Oh, I'm so when when Nick got hired at UCLA,
I got offered the site to be the publisher of
the UCLA site, but Kelly was sick at the time,
and Kelsey was little, and I couldn't do it. So
you know, give me another year or two, and I'd
love to go back to la I lived out there
in my twenties and it was fabulous there. You go.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
L All right, Uh, Since I'm gonna ask you, and
we're going to talk a lot about offense, let me
start with defense, because you're the perfect person to ask
this because you deal with it every day. There is
a there is a a certain level of hand ringing
within the fan base with this bend but don't break
three three five defense?

Speaker 3 (39:51):
Is it?

Speaker 4 (39:51):
Is it nitpicky or is their merit to concern for
the defense?

Speaker 3 (39:55):
In your mind?

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Well, as a fan, it is incredibly annoying. Let's just
acknowledge that right out front, Like the other team, almost
every time they touch the ball gets into UC territory
to the thirty five to forty yard line, and then
some action happens. Then they start tightening up. They're getting,

(40:18):
you know, getting off the field on third and fourth down.
Although it feels like nobody's kicked a field goal against
Cincinnati all year, everybody goes for it. I think there's
they've played seven games. It's either twenty three or twenty
four fourth down attempts in seven games, which feels like
a ton. So I think that adds into it. The

(40:38):
main thing for me is are they keeping teams out
of the end zone? Are they limiting because the point
of playing this defense is to keep teams from getting
over the top of you, beating you deep. And really,
outside of the two plays against Kansas, they haven't given
up a ton of explosives. They have kept teams in

(41:00):
front of them, made teams work long drives down the field,
you know, and you're more likely at some point in
time to make a mistake when you have to do
that every series throughout a game. So in that sense,
it's working, but I get it. It drives me nuts
sometimes as I'm watching a game, like are they ever
going to get off? Like this offense is hot? There

(41:21):
have been two games where they you know, the Iowa
State game, in the UCF game, the other team had
the ball at the end of the half. The other
team had the ball at the start of the second half,
and they went over an hour without the offense touching
the ball. That is annoying, but the end result is
they are fifth in the Big Twelve in points allowed,

(41:44):
and that's the point. You're keeping the other team off
the scoreboard. Does it drive you crazy to watch it?
Is it viewer friendly?

Speaker 9 (41:55):
No?

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Absolutely not. But it's effective and with the talent that
they have right now, they're working with what they've got.

Speaker 5 (42:05):
And chat. I'll tell you this just from talking with
defensive coordinators, you know for the last however many years.
You know, the guys they've been around a while used
to say or they would say, you know, you used
to you know, kind of care how many yards you
gave up and what your passing yard was. And they're
like with with modern rules in modern offense, it's do
they score touchdowns? That that's all you care about, right,

(42:27):
you know? The stats for these defensive cordat and the
ones that understand that and don't go crazy when oh
my god, we gave it four and fifty yards of offense.
But one the ones that don't go crazy on that
are the ones that are going to stick around.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
For a while. And this is why this defense was designed.
What people forget or don't really consider. This defense was
designed by Matt Campbell and his staff at Iowa State
that included Tyson Bite. In a period of time where
Big twelve, almost every score was fifty six, fifty three,

(43:01):
you know, and they had to come up. They came
up with something that they felt like would put an
umbrella on the other team's offense and limit the explosive plays,
limit the fifty sixty seventy yard touchdowns. And that's what's
happened in Iowa State has been the best defense in
this conference year over year for the better part of
a decade playing this defense because they don't let you

(43:23):
put points on the board. Cincinnati has played seven games.
The opponent has scored twenty or less in five of
those seven games. It's working. Now. You're playing better offenses
coming up down the stretch, so we'll see, But so
far it's working all right.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
On the offensive side.

Speaker 4 (43:41):
They have so many different weapons, and I was struck
by something Scott said and his coaches show this week
that they don't with all the weapons, they don't feel
the need to have to feed somebody to keep them happy.
That a Cyrus Allen can go from one catch for
I think minus three yards against UCF to three touchdowns
last week, and there's just that that general shared success

(44:05):
of those weapons on that offense.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Yeah, And I mean Rocky can probably speak to this
a lot better than me. When you go into a
team meeting and you're scouting the next opponent, the number
one thing is the previous game, right, Cyrus Allen was
teams at the beginning of the year, coming into the year,
they bracketed Joe Royer because Joe Royer was the big
name returning guy. They bracketed him, tried to take him away,

(44:31):
and then other guys started having success, mainly Cyrus Allen.
So then teams started saying, well, right, We're going to
roll coverage to Cyrus Allen. Now, Jeff Caldwell's open. Now,
Noah Jennings is open, now, Caleb good is open. Now,
Joe Royer is back open again. And that's one of
the great parts about Sorsby is he does a really
and more importantly maybe the offensive line because Sorsby is

(44:55):
having time back there to read the defense. I mean,
you go back to that third and sixth team that
really kind of put things on ice against Oklahoma States.
So or as they said, that was his third read,
Jeff Caldwell over the middle for six for thirty eight
yards in a first down. He doesn't get to his
third read if he doesn't have the time that the
offensive line is giving him. So it's a it's a

(45:18):
multi faceted deal. And I mean the twenty twenty one
guys aren't going to be happy with me, and we'll
see how they finish. But right now, I think this
is the best offense I've seen at U SEE since
two thousand and nine.

Speaker 5 (45:32):
Wow, Wow, big statement. Ched Look, obviously this time of year,
as you're getting into November, health is a big part
of this thing. You look at the UC injury report,
no injuries. They you know, Corleone is back that had
no real devastating injuries. How big of a factors I'm
moving forward.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
It's a major factor. And it's a huge testament to
Nico Palazetti, the strengthen conditioning coach, to Aaron hound who
I've never been around someone better at their job than
Aaron Himler is at his He's phenomenal. And also there's
a reason you spend one hundred and fifty million dollars
on that training facility because those guys get to get

(46:14):
in there on Sunday and Monday and Tuesday and they're
in the recovery tubs, and they're they're in the cryo chambers,
and they're doing all the different things that help guys
rest and recover. So you're not playing on lingering injuries
as much as maybe you have been in the past.
I think it's been a huge factor, all three of
those things working in unison to have gotten them to

(46:38):
this point. There's seven games in knock on Wood. They
haven't really dealt with it. A Ton.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
Baylor's offense productive, Baylor's quarterback Daigerous. Tell Bearcat fans what
they need to know about that Baylor offensive attack.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
Well, if you didn't like the defense giving up a
bunch of yards, might want to watch something else Saturday
at four, because Baylor's gonna get a lot of yards.
But guess what, when you dig into the numbers, they
are not good scoring touchdowns in the red zone. And
that has been one of the strengths of Cincinnati's defense,

(47:18):
So keep an eye on that. If they don't, let
you know, they can keep Bailor from doing what Kansas
did and hitting a couple of those splash touchdowns. If
they can make them work all the way down the
field and get into the red zone and score, that's
been a strength of Cincinnatis. It's been a weakness of Bailors.

(47:40):
It also means the Baylor's going to chew up a
crap ton of yards between the twenties and you're probably
gonna want to pull your hair out. But that's where
Cincinnati can win this game. They kick a lot of
threes and leave points on the board when they do
get into the red zone because obviously the field shrinks
and now you've got eight guys in coverage and people

(48:02):
aren't running into open spaces, and you can make them
earn it. A little bit more in the red zone,
and Sawyer Robertson's not standing back there just picking you apart.
So that's going to be the interesting part for me.
But they've got a great quarterback, they've got really good
wide receivers, and the running game is okay. But they

(48:23):
run so many plays that they're still averaging one hundred
and forty yards a game on the ground, So you
can't forget about the run game. But they want to pass,
make no mistake. They want Robertson to stand back there
and throw the ball all day long. You just have
to make sure it's for ten fifteen yards, not forty fifty.

Speaker 4 (48:42):
Last question, it's got to be about hoops. And as
much as I learned my license last year of not
putting much stock in exhibition games after what they did
to Ohiowa State, give me a takeaway, just something that
jumped out at you.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
In the win over Michigan last week, I was.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Really impressed with there's two true freshman and a redshirt freshman.
I was really impressed with how they handled the atmosphere.
Shawnabayev keish On Tillery, Tyler McKinley. I thought all three
looked like they belonged the other big thing for me,
and those three were a part of it. There were
moments that different guys took over and had their little window.

(49:19):
They had their period. It was bobon Miller early and
Shawnabajeh right before halftime, and Dayde Thomas towards the end
and Kurk curse. They hit a couple of big shots.
We talked at nauseum last year about that team just
failed to have others step up. Felt like every game
there was one guy that was playing well, one guy
was playing okay, and then like seven guys that couldn't

(49:41):
Tyler Shoe and chew gum at the same time. This
team needs three for I mean, there were six guys
and double figures against you know, a Michigan team that's
gonna be really good. Nobody's good at defense right now.
They're not where they need to be yet. But I
thought a lot better about the number of guys that
have the ability to step up and have those four

(50:02):
or five minute stretches where they're playing really well.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
All right, tell everybody about Bearcat journal dot com. Keagan
Nickoson been kicking butt this week, and while I'm thinking
of it, congratulations on the the five hundredth edition of
the Bearcat Journal podcast last night.

Speaker 5 (50:18):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
That's a lot of Dave Simone and I talking like
I is. MA. Thank you, thank you for all the
people that have listened. But my god, what are you
doing with your life? Kegan? I missed being in my
early twenties. Lance, I sent Keegan to Kansas City. So
he's driving sent in to Kansas City for Basketball Media Days.

(50:41):
He left Basketball Media Days today with to sayeth Ville, Arkansas.
He'll be there for the UC Arkansas exhibition tomorrow night,
and then he's got roughly sixteen hours to make the
ten hour drive back to Cincinnati. He said his goal
is to be in his seat at four o'clock for home.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
Holy cow man o four again. No doubt about that,
no doubt he is.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
Chad Brendel, Bearcat Journal, Bearcat Journal dot Com.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
Yes, finish your thought.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
I'm sorry didn't go and support Keagan. He's working his
butt off, no doubt, no doubt.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
Thank you, Sarah. We'll talk next week.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
Thanks gentlemen, appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (51:24):
Check Brendel, Bearcat Journal, Bearcat Journal dot Com. Up next,
a little bit of what Charlie Goldsmith told me last
night on sports talk about this Bengals run game, the
decision to go with you from the defensive side of things,
and thoughts on what has happened to Cam Taylor Britt.
That is all ahead, He's Rocky, I'm Lance. It's Long
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seven minutes from mark. Let's get into a couple of
things that Charlie Goldsmith told me last night for Charlie's

(52:51):
Chalkboard on Sports Talk that caught my ear, including the
run game, which has been much discussed and lacking up
until Thursday night. Did they unlock something they can replicate
going forward or was it more a matchup based results
on a really bad Steeler defense. It appeared on Thursday.

(53:12):
Here's what Charlie said about the run game.

Speaker 10 (53:15):
Well, as long as Chase Brown has a quarterback who
can functionally run the offense and make defenses play certain
coverages and do this and that schematically, then yeah, I
think Chase Brown's a guy who's more than talented enough
to break a lot of tackles, to break off one
or two big runs a game. It's those explosive that
really rack up the average, and that's just who Chase is.

(53:37):
When it's any sort of functional offense. I think it
wasn't even anything schematic. I just think by having Flaco,
Chase Brown gets to be insult again.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
Charlie Goldsmith, and he used the term functional offense twice,
which clearly is in relation to it was not a
functional offense with Jake Browning and with the presence of
Joe Flacco. It commands some attention, respect from a defense
that you've got somebody who it just opens up the
playbook to run the ball and to throw the ball there.

(54:07):
There was no threat offered by Jake Browning.

Speaker 5 (54:10):
Well, look, let's be clear that the best thing that's
gonna help this run game is Jamar Chase getting fifteen
sixteen catches a game, yep, because teams are not gonna
allow that to happen. We can, they absolutely can't. So
when more attention goes there, that's gonna open up some
things for the run. I don't think you disagree. This
is not a line that's built to run the football.

(54:32):
This is a line that's built to pass, protect for
Joe Burrow to put the ball in the air fifty
times a game. Right, And now we're in a different situation.
So that's always been my point. It's hard to ask
them to do something to have an identity that's not them.
With that said, you know you've got to have some
semblance of balance, of course, but yeah, if you keep

(54:52):
feeding that ball to Jamar Chase in the past game,
that they have no choice but to apply some resources
to try to mitigate that going to open up the
ring game.

Speaker 4 (55:01):
Charlie wrote a great piece as well about how this
defense has gone young, and I asked him last night,
I said, when you make a decision to go young
on that side of the ball, it feels more like
something we talked about this last week, last Thursday when
we were together, feels like something more a rebuilding team
would do a commitment to youth and we'll take our
bumps and bruises and lumps and they're going to get better,

(55:21):
more so than a team in contention that maybe can't
afford some of the mistakes that might come with youth.
And I asked him, I said, is the decision to
go young on defense? Is that more indicative of the
youth they have or is it more of a statement
about the veterans who aren't delivering for this team.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
Here's Charlie.

Speaker 10 (55:37):
Yeah, if they wanted to, they could be starting Logan Wilson,
Orn Burkes. You know, Cam Taylor, BRIT's a fourth year veteran.
They could be starting all of these older players, some
of the veterans, you know, you look at Kim, you
look at Geno Stone. I think Logan Wilson has been fined,
but put them in this group as well. Just have regress.
And that's concerning for a defense that was counting on
some semblance of veteran president to lead an otherwise young

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unit through the highs and the lows, because you know,
Barret Carter, Demetrius Knight, Josh Newton, let Murphy, Samar Stewart,
who by the way, played a very poor game against
the Steelers that hasn't been talked much about, but he
kind of quietly got his role reduced significantly, not quite benched,
but that happened with Samorrow over the course of the game.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
Like that's life.

Speaker 10 (56:23):
When you're playing that many young players, it's about what
you expect. So there should be a lot of attention
on man, these veterans are letting the defense down significantly
because those are the guys you thought you'd be able
to count on.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
That's a powerful last statement.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
I think it is worth spending some time on because
we've talked about it. You have to, especially when you're
spending so much on your Big three, you have to
hit on your draft, and they're just guys on that
side of the ball, top one hundred draft picks who
just haven't been what the Bengals have needed them to be.

Speaker 5 (56:54):
You could argue that's the single biggest problem with this Yes,
seem in this organization, Yes, last five years or beyond forever. Yes, Yeah,
it's it's the inability to nail some of those draft
picks to way some of the teams that are perennially
in the court in the Super Bowl conversation that they draft, well,
they develop, they keep those guys. But to me, the

(57:16):
simple answer for why they're going younger on defense is
one where speed, speed absolutely kills you have to have
it out there, especially in today's NFL. It's a space game,
and they don't think that the veteran guys Logan Wilson,
you've mentioned many times Lance right about how he just
kind of lumbers around.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (57:36):
It's I think that's the risk Rewards are saying, Okay,
we're gonna give up a little bit of knowledge here,
but we've got guys that are flying around. Speed creates chaos, right,
It creates havoc plays and interceptions and fumbles and and
and the big plays that kind of thing. That's why
those guys are out there.

Speaker 4 (57:54):
Cam Tayler Britt is a guy they spent a second
round pick on. It look like he might be emerging
into a core piece. Yesterday he was reduced to special
teams work in practice. I asked Charlie what he sees
in the fall off of Cam Taylor Britt.

Speaker 8 (58:08):
It's just a massive organizational loss.

Speaker 10 (58:10):
I don't expect the Bengals to, you know, be in
the divisional round this year. Maybe they do it for
a comes back, but these are the types of developments
that cost you divisional AFC championship games. When you have
a guy who's supposed to be a corner giving you
a matchup advantage against Josh Allen and it turns out
doesn't even have a place on the field. It reminds
me of a pitcher who just can't find the strike

(58:33):
zone and the way that that leads to an individual.
I don't want to use the word spiring, but snowballing
what would be the word I'm going for, because then
you start trying to do so much and camp it's
just been such a hyper active player as opposed to
just locking in on the fundamentals, the detail. He's trying
to use another baseball analogy. You know, hit an eight

(58:55):
run homer when he steps up to the plate, and
then when he's over ten and he's trying to hit
a sixteen run home R And he keeps digging and
digging and digging that hole. And you know now today
he's working on special teams. I mean, this is seemingly
how it's going to be with him going forward.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
What a fall for camp Taylor brand. It's amazing.

Speaker 5 (59:16):
I mean early in his career, I mean there was a.

Speaker 4 (59:19):
Talking, oh he'll get in a big extension and this
is a breakout year to the Pro Bowl and he's a.

Speaker 5 (59:24):
Second round pick.

Speaker 4 (59:25):
R second round pick. Yeah, unbelievable. All right, we've reached
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Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
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We'll draw that again in twenty four minutes. He's rocky,
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(01:00:23):
Always a pleasure to welcome in. Greg Shoemaker.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
How are you.

Speaker 8 (01:00:29):
I'm doing good, guys.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
What a great weekend.

Speaker 8 (01:00:31):
Week ten of the regular season in Ohio. First weekend
in the playoffs in Indiana this weekend. Two weeks left
in the regular season in Kentucky. It's go time right
now for sure for a lot of teams.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
No doubt about it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
Let's get into the first of four games. Let's start
with winton Woods at Lebanon. Playoff positioning on the line,
and winton Woods got a little bit of a boost
of the running game last week as well.

Speaker 8 (01:00:58):
Yeah, they really did. So the cool thing about this
game is the winner has put themselves well. Actually, if
Lebanon wins this game, they will get a first round
by in Division one Region two. If went Woods wins,
they will get a first round by in Division one
Region four, but that's only if Moler loses. So winn

(01:01:20):
Woods is already secured to top eight spot in a
home game in the playoffs. If Lebanon loses, they could
still finish in the top four spot, but they could
also finish as low as number ten in Region two
in the rankings. So a lot on the line here
that said, like you were talking about, Lance, win Woods
got his running game a boost last week when Isaiah

(01:01:43):
Garrett came back for the first time this season. The
junior ran for eighty four yards and a touchdown on
fifteen carries. Last season to in the year, he ran
four straight games of one hundred and ten yards or more,
and five times in the last six contests he did
the same thing. And he's been off all this season,
and it's went in their their their quarterback bry Seawn

(01:02:05):
Brown's led them and rushing with three hundred and ninety
six yards this season, So to get him back and
this time of year when as you're looking at it tonight,
the weather's changing and it's football weather, and you'd better
be able to run the football in the end of
November and into October. That said, Lebanon quarterback Luke Saylor
has thrown for nineteen touchdowns and over his last five starts,

(01:02:27):
he's got three receivers with at least six touchdown catches
on the year. And if Lebanon wants to stay in
this game at home, they're gonna have to get some unconventional,
unconventional points and they've done that this year with five
pick six is on their eleven interceptions for the season.

Speaker 5 (01:02:45):
All right, Greg West versus East in Lakota, how about this?
And how fitting Tom Bolden going for his career win
two hundred in a rivalry game. This should be a
great one.

Speaker 8 (01:03:00):
Yeah, And I just want to I want to give
Tom Bolden a bit of love here. Like you said,
Rocky's going for his two hondred career win. He has
one ninety nine and thirty seven in his nineteen seasons
as a head coach, and by the way, Rock more
than a third of those losses order your say, next Bombers,
which is so so Bolden's fifteen and oh all the

(01:03:25):
time versus Lakota East, including a six and oh mark
against UH UH East as the Firebirds head coach, and
uh even even so once he got to UH West
this this past six years ago, they'd have been great.
Uh in October under Bolden having won twenty consecutive football

(01:03:46):
games dating all the way back to twenty twenty and
again a loss in the regional championship to Saint Xavier.
But yeah, I mean he's been fantastic and I hope
he gets that wins in Mara. It'd be a great
thing for for internet rivalry game like that. So both
teams are in the playoffs. Neither one can get a
first round by but they I'm for sure that West

(01:04:08):
has a home game in Week two of the tournaments.
So now we've been talking about the weather. West has
only had five hundred and fifty five yards rushing in
the first seven games of the year. They have since
run for four hundred and forty five in the last
two games, so it's very interesting. And the funny part

(01:04:29):
about this is East has had a bad time against
teams that can run the football with bigger lines. They
were allowing two hundred and five yards of game rushing
five point six yards of carry, and have given up
twenty one touchdowns on the ground. So they have to
do a good job at trying to stop the run
in this one if they want to stay in this game.
That said, their secondary has been outstanding with ten interceptions

(01:04:50):
this year, returning four of them for pick six. Is
and not only that, in their ten interceptions, they've a
massed three hundred and fifty six yards of returning yardist
So you know, over a nine game period, that's like
what fifty sixty yards a game just in return yards.
So I mean, they're they're amazing there. The one thing
that what East will have to do to stay in

(01:05:12):
this ballgame is run the football themselves. And Rter Hooks,
their senior running back. He's he's their all time leading
rusher at East and he he's having a great senior years.
He's run for fourteen hundred yards, he's everage and one
hundred and sixty yards rushing per game, two hundred and
thirty of all purpose yards per game, and on defense
he has twenty four tackles, five pass breakups, two picks, sixes,

(01:05:35):
and is tied for the league lead with four interceptions.
So I'm telling you right now, if he's he he
may be one of our candidates for Ohio Mister Football
coming out of Southwest Ohio, especially if they win this game.
So it's it's that's an interesting game. And the only
other dichotomy of this game that I really feel pretty
cool about is Isla Cody East.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
They're they're only.

Speaker 8 (01:05:59):
Giving up Lacona West has only given up eighty three
yards a game passing and uh uh, just four touchdown
passes on the year. So again, in a game that
needs to run, this could be it for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:06:11):
All right, Speaking of playoff implications, Fairfield and Oak Kills
winner in and loser has to hope.

Speaker 8 (01:06:19):
Yeah. Absolutely, And we're gonna have Fairfield coach Justin Roaden
on in the pregame show tomorrow on High School Football tonight,
and he was the head coach at Oak Kills the
previous five years, and we've had nothing but great things
to say about these kids at Oak Hills and their
banks out Fairfield is and I think both these teams,

(01:06:40):
like both coaches feel like if we can get into
the playoffs, an extra week of play a play is
going to help us in Miss Lee and it'll be
like a good thing. And uh, they need that extra
that week of practice and it's you know, it's a
win for both teams. Who was sure every one gets
in and uh kills Senior wide receiver Aaron McFarlane who

(01:07:02):
came from Taylor. He has one hundred and ninety career receptions,
more than thirty three hundred yards receiving in his career.
That puts him only twenty six players in Ohio have
had two hundred receptions in their career and he's only
one of only nineteen players in the state of Ohio
with thirty three hundred yards in his career receiving. So
great career for him, look for him. I hope he

(01:07:23):
gets to continue on that path to greatness. And then
freshman running back at Fairfield Coorious Booker. He spits in
the GMC with five hundred and seventy one yards rushing,
Very very impressive to be a freshman and have that
kind of stats in the gmc.

Speaker 5 (01:07:40):
R Greg williams Berg who is undefeated at Bethel Tate.
And I don't know if I could love this anymore.
Bethel Tate started the year zero to five, have rattled
off four straight and now have a chance to get
into I guess the SBAAC national title.

Speaker 8 (01:07:57):
Yes, yeah, they're close. And Rogie, you hear thing on
the right here. Williamsburg has never finished a regular season
ten and oh. The program went twenty six oh and
one from nineteen seventy one to nineteen seventy three. They
only played nine games in the regular season that year,
so it's a very very cool thing if they could
get there. However, two years ago, Williamsburg was sitting at

(01:08:21):
eight and oh and in this same game, Bethel Tate
beat them twenty two to twenty at Bethel Tate. And
the ironic thing about this is Williamsburg's senior wide receiver
Troy Harris was the star for Bethel Tate in that
game with six receptions for one hundred and thirteen yards,
a touchdown, eight solo tackles in an interception. Last year

(01:08:43):
he transferred to Williamsburg, where to get avenged the loss,
he ran for one hundred and thirteen yards on six
carries on ten carries, had an eighty five yard kickoff
retree for a touchdown and an interception as Wildcats beat
Bethel Tate last year. So if Williamsburg wins this game,
they might have to call this and here says another

(01:09:03):
good game, they might have to call this the Harris
Cup by me every year. This is something out and
he could be three now in this game over the
next three years. But it's a good, fun small school
game to follow. Both great implications of both. Both teams
had a great run this year for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:09:21):
All right, layout things listeners and readers can't expect as
we move into the weekend and look forward to the
High School Football Tonight show Tomorrow night.

Speaker 8 (01:09:31):
Yeah, High School Football Tonight is on Fox Sports thirteen
sixty in ESPN fifteen thirty tomorrow from six to eight pm.
No Saint Xavier games this Friday or next Friday, so
both weeks will be on from sixty eight this week
on boat channels next week just on Fox thirteen sixty.
Like I said, we'll have justin roadan head coach of
Oakhill's on with us there. We'll also have the head

(01:09:54):
coach went Woods Chef Murphy's joining us. Dan Court from
Boone County is joining us. Kyle Hogan from Saint Bernardo
in one place, we'll be joining us. They play on
Saturday day of one eighth straight game. He'll be fun
to talk to as well, So listen to that, and
then after the game, go to try statefootball dot com
the Underground Sports Shop scoreboard. We'll have all the scores
for you. We'll have highlights, recaps, all kinds of great

(01:10:17):
stuff for you or Tri State Football tomorrow night.

Speaker 4 (01:10:21):
Excellent as always, look forward to it. Thank you for
the time. We'll talk next week.

Speaker 8 (01:10:26):
Sounds good, guys. It'll be a fun one playoff start
next week.

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
Yeah, thanks Greg, We got it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:33):
Greg Schumaker High School Football tonight, tri State football dot Com.
What do you say we take a time out of
continue up next, let's offer up some fantasy football advice.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
For that, we'll turn to Dan Klaskins.

Speaker 4 (01:10:45):
We are rolling through a Thursday night, hanging at it
long next in Richwood, we'll do our drawing in about
thirteen minutes of cool Bengals print to give away eight
o'clock hour. We'll get back into the Bengals look ahead
to the matchup against the Jets. We'll do a hot
topic around the NFL, might have to expand it to
the hot topic around sports, what's going on with the
NBA and the gambling investigation today? And uh more, we'll

(01:11:07):
travel Rockies Road as well. Oh, I can't wait. I want,
I want you to tell me the story of Delaware
and Joe Flacco later on if we do that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
He is Rocky on Lance Long Next in Richwood.

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and Rocky Boyman. It is time for our Fantasy football segment,
week number six. Our next guest, our weekly guest is
host of Fantastics Insider Football series XM Fantasy.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
Let's welcome in, Dan Klaskins. How are you?

Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
What's up?

Speaker 11 (01:11:59):
Fellas we're doing tonight?

Speaker 4 (01:12:01):
We are good, ready to go. Big weekend coming up,
and let's get to it. Because last week we looked
at some players to target in trade, so let's look
this week at some guys that you might consider selling
high on.

Speaker 11 (01:12:15):
Yeah, no doubt about it. Trade deadline is coming up
in many leagues. First and foremost, let's be sure we
know when our league's trade deadline is. I'm in a
lot of leagues, but none of the trade deadlines are
the same, So you know, don't wait till the last minute.
Always you sort of get out in front of that.
But if you are in the market, some players you
might want to shop right now. And we do like

(01:12:36):
to sell Highlands harder to get much higher than Aaron
Rodgers with his value currently and I think we all
tell what he put out there last week because that
was actually a second four touchdown performance of the season.
I got to admit it's gone better. From a fantasy perspective,
I was Expectedburgh passing game. That said, I am concerned
with the schedule that lies ahead. I don't know if

(01:12:57):
it's going to be able to be contained, and we
know when gets to the summer, I'm expecting Pittsburgh is
going to want to run football. So Rogers, especially in
Superplex League, is probably very marketable right now and somebody
you should consider. You should also take a look at
Bears running back Dedre Swift for many of the same reasons. Now,
the volume has been his best friend, and he's getting
a ton of carries, but it's also leading to a

(01:13:19):
lot of the yards. Back to back under yard games
scored a touchdown with that last week. He hit twenty
plus PPR points down in his last two. That said,
I'm still not sold on the efficiency overall. I do
think the schedules had something to do with the should outings,
and with a lot of limited options out there, I
would definitely consider moving along from there. Elsewhere We've got

(01:13:44):
at the wide receiver position. AJ Brown, he's been a
disappointment most of the season. Finally got out of that
funk as at the entire Eagles passing game a week ago,
so I likely will look to him, and then finally
Travis Kelsey. I mean, he hasn't really been red hot,
but coming off a pretty strong performance there the return
of Rashie right, I am a bit concerned about his
target volume. I do think it's more his name is

(01:14:06):
more valuable than is actually production at this point. So
now still a good time to shopping.

Speaker 5 (01:14:12):
Of course, many injuries just time of the year here, Dan,
but let's talk specifically before you get into the others
about Lamar Jackson and Jaden Daniels.

Speaker 6 (01:14:24):
Yeah, Rockey, you're absolutely right.

Speaker 11 (01:14:26):
Those quarterbacks. I mean, those are injuries not just to
those players but all the pieces around them. We've seen
what that's been like in Baltimore in recent weeks, but
their offense but coming out of there by looking pretty good.

Speaker 3 (01:14:38):
Here.

Speaker 11 (01:14:38):
Lamar Jackson practicing is trending in the right direction with
the hamstring, So based off of everything we're seeing right now,
we're optimistic there. We can't be equally optimistic thought for
Jadon Daniels, he's already been ruled out for Monday's affair
in Kansas City. Marcus Mariota will start there versus Chiefs.
So good news is the MRI. It doesn't look like

(01:15:00):
it's a long term injury here, but it's already the
second time the second year quarterback's been shelf this season
with growing concerns around his durability, which is partly his style.
Will play Brice Young, another quarterback. He's technically listed day
to day, but Bouse, I think the red rifle was
going to get to Paul here versus Buffalo. All expectations
are Andy Dalton to start for the Panthers young to

(01:15:22):
miss at least one week. We'll see out Friday trends tonight.
Let's talk about tonight, though. There is a big news here.
Within the last hour or so, the Vikings have officially
activated running back Aaron Jones off injured reserve. He missed
the last four games with the hamstring issue. In his assence,
Short Mason's averaged six and a half touches for seventy

(01:15:44):
five point three yards per scrimmage and scoring four rushing touchdowns,
and now the return of Jones just sort of cloudies
out a little bit. I still think Mason's a nice
back end RB two.

Speaker 6 (01:15:54):
I did like him over Jones based.

Speaker 11 (01:15:56):
On their ADP in the preseason, but I will expect
Jones to get him off tonight, especially in the passing games.
I'm not real. I'd probably wait and see before I
take him in the lineup. But with six teams on
buy this week by mcgeddon is struck, we're seeing a
lot of desperate moves, So if you need Jones, you
can plug him in. Receivers are always the big names.
Every week. I give you guys another wide receiver one

(01:16:18):
that is not in action this week. I expect that
to be Mike Collins or excuse me, Nico Collins with
his concussion he suffered. Is you had to even clear
any type of things at barring a miracle, he's out
this week and how likely for the rest of the season.
Mike Evan with the collar bone issue, actually got concuss
and broke as coller bone on the same play in
the early Monday night game here in week seven. And

(01:16:40):
then Bucky Irving Chris Godwin, they're not going to return
this week to Bucks with the buy next week they'll
get that extra time, but Baker Mayfield Company will be
limited in their resources once again this time around. And
then we can't talk to injuries without what's going on
here in Cincinnati because the opponent, the Jets, already a
pretty terrible team. We don't know who the quarterback going
to be this week, but their two best fantasy assets

(01:17:02):
not named Breezaw Garret Wilson and Mason Taylor now looking
doubtful for at least ify here as we head towards
Friday's practice. Wilson I'm a little less optimistic on he's
been hurt all week with the knee issue. Mason Taylor
just added to the injury report today, did not practice,
and most of the beat writer's stuff I'm seeing come
out of New York says he actually suffered a quad

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injury yesterday, so the young tight end could be out
of action. Speaking of tight ends, the comeback story of
Danner Waller may have hit an abrupt plogy here. He's
been placed on IR with the tech issue pectoral and
an oblique issue. Dalton and Cage been battling, but he
is limited in practice and could return this week, although
they may not need him versus the Panthers.

Speaker 4 (01:17:43):
All right, how about our weekly lineup advice? Give me
some studs, duds and sleepers.

Speaker 11 (01:17:49):
Well, I mean quiz. John Jenkins has emerged as the
best fantasy running back this season for sure, and at
least in fantasy football. Love what we're seeing with at
the goal line. Work here the matchup this week, first
New England. I'm not really worried about the rust defense.
I am worried about game script though. If the Browns
get behind, that could hurt it. But I still got
him in my side my top ten. And Drake London,

(01:18:11):
I mean, he has really been underrated coming on him late.
Michael Pennock junior back at practice, so he's trending in
the right direction. They get Miami, I think, quit on everything.
I got Drake London at my wide receiver three this week,
so absolutely fire up on him. On the dud side
of a Dj Moore Atlances you'd like to say the
back of a baseball card. I mean that's what Dj
Moore basically is in fantasy. So he gets fy targets

(01:18:34):
every week for three catches in about forty yards and
it's about a fifty to fifty back for a touchdown.
Again with six teams on by I've got him in
a flex spot this week. Not crazy about it. He's
dealing with the hip issue as well, but he's outside
my top thirty receivers and Tja Atkinson playing tonight tight
then seventeen on my board here for week number seven.
It's been a very disappointing season for them. A lot

(01:18:55):
of that has to do with the quarterback play. So
barring a touchdown tonight, not going to have a big
stat line and a couple of sleepers. I mean yeah,
I mean Joe Black, I've excited this all been in fantasy.
He's actually a viable starting option this week, especially again
with the six teams on buy when you got to March,
Chase and Tigg and that's good enough against the Jets
to the Q fifth, QB fifteen and now rookie I

(01:19:16):
was really high on coming in the season has been
slow to start starting to get going. Now I think
he's going to get going the best this week versus
the Barry's R. J. Harvey sneaks into my top twenty
five and certainly a good flex option for just about
any for me.

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Thanks Dan, you as well.

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look forward to being back here again soon. He's Rocky
Boyman on Lance McAlister. We have been here, there and
everywhere in our first two hours, got Bengals and Jets
to get back to. In this hour, while I'm thinking
about it and looking at we have a really cool
guest special listener who has joined us from Australia. I
wrote down Scott. I hope it is it Scott. It

(01:22:09):
is Scott. Okay, because I wrote it on social media
Steve and I said, way, I'm an idiot. I wrote
down Scott and then I confused myself, but it's Scott.
Final answer is Scott, I get very confused. Scott is
from Australia, part of Bengals Fans down Under and listens
to the podcast in Australia.

Speaker 3 (01:22:25):
He's here in town for the weekend. He's going to
the game on Sunday. How cool is that.

Speaker 5 (01:22:28):
They listened to two podcasts Bengals related and on Monday.

Speaker 4 (01:22:33):
Absolutely very cool, very cool. So welcome and thank you
for stopping by tonight. It's saying hi, all right, let's
get into Bengals and Jets. Jets are oh and seven?
Rock and Rich Semini covers the Jets for ESPN and
he was on with Dan and Lap last night on
the Bengals pep Rally Show or Bengals game Plan Show.

(01:22:55):
There's so many different Bengal shows. I can't keep it straight.
On the game Plan Show and they asked Rich, this
Jets team is oh and seven? Are they that bad?
Are they truly an O and seven football team? Here's
what he said.

Speaker 12 (01:23:07):
That's a fascinating question because if you look at their roster,
they do have some very good players.

Speaker 6 (01:23:13):
I mean, we've talked about them.

Speaker 12 (01:23:15):
Garrett Wilson and Breeze Hall, and their offensive line has
a couple of good players, and Sauce Gardner and Quinn
Williams and Jamien Sherwood's a good linebacker. The two edge
rushers Johnson and McDonald. So they have good players. They
just haven't put it together, which is just the sign
of a bad team. Like I said, the defense has

(01:23:35):
played well the last two weeks.

Speaker 8 (01:23:37):
The special teams have.

Speaker 3 (01:23:38):
Played well the last couple of weeks.

Speaker 12 (01:23:39):
They're punter a guy who was in Cincinnati, Austin McNamara.
He's one of the best punters in the league right now.
And Nick Folk is a terrific kicker.

Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
So they have.

Speaker 12 (01:23:49):
Some components of a winning team, but it just never
shows up on the same Sunday. And they might go
out Sunday and their offense might put up like twenty
eight points and the defense will just have a bad day.
It's been that kind of year for the Jets. So
I understand what the Bengals are coming from. Zach Taylor's

(01:24:10):
probably like selling the Jets. This is not an O seventeen,
but they are zero to seven for a reason. They
just selling destruct and too many self inflicted thoms.

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
I thought it was interesting rock.

Speaker 4 (01:24:21):
How Zach put it yesterday, he was asking about the
importance of this stretch three straight at home Steelers followed
by the Jets, followed by the Bears, and the idea
of getting to five and four at the buy and
Zach's response was, it's not a stretch. It's a game.
It's this game on Sunday. It can't be three games,
it can't be playoffs. It's one game. And it's the

(01:24:43):
classic cliche one game at a time. But that holds true.
You can't as much as last week was perhaps a
must win game, this is a must win game. You
can't take a step forward by beating the Steelers then
take two steps back by losing home to the Jets.

Speaker 5 (01:24:57):
Yeah. Look, I mean for a player, it's hard to
wrap your head around seventeen games. I'll never forget. And
when I was with the Colts, I'd sit next to
Dan Kleco and were sitting in the meeting and there'd
be the like the board of like the games, and
you know, win losses and all the stats, and there's
just all these helmets, like seemingly like a hundred of them,

(01:25:18):
And if you look at that board, you're like, oh,
my god, how do we win?

Speaker 11 (01:25:22):
Like?

Speaker 5 (01:25:23):
How do we do this? For the you know what
I mean? But if you break it down into seventeen
one game season, you can wrap your head around that.
But to go out there and all the things that
go into play in all those games and the ups
and the downs and what do we gotta do? It's
just overwhelming focus on a one game season.

Speaker 4 (01:25:40):
They're zero to seven, and compounding issues for the Jets,
two of their best players didn't practice again today. Sauce Gardner,
the fine former UC Bearcat defensive back, and also Garrett Wilson,
the Ohio state wide receiver, missed his first game of
his young career last week. Within the issue, they didn't
practice yesterday, neither practice today. Last night rich on Bengals

(01:26:04):
Game Plan talked about injuries to those two players.

Speaker 12 (01:26:08):
I think, pound for pound, Quinn and Williams is their
best defensive player. You know, he's a former first team
All Pro now a Sauce Gardner gets a lot of
the accolades, but I do not believe Sauce Gardner will
play in this team on Sunday.

Speaker 8 (01:26:20):
He's in the concussion protocol and so.

Speaker 12 (01:26:23):
Offensively, Garrett Wilson, I do believe is probably their best
offensive player. Now there's a good chance he may not
play in this game. He did not practice again today.
He's dealing with the knee injury that kept him out
on Sunday. They're saying day to day. However, I am
a little skeptical about his chances. The Gens have the
bye week right after Cincinnati, so I think there's a

(01:26:45):
sense of the organization that, hey, we'll just let him
sit out this game and then have him come out
of the bye week feeling one hundred percent. So yeah,
that's you know, a Sauce Gardner and Garrett Wilson of
two of their best players aren't there.

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
It's going to be tough for them on Sunday.

Speaker 4 (01:27:00):
I mean the ESPN who covers the Jets. Now, he
was asked and it's been a circus this week from
the quarterback standpoint, and Justin Fields was bench last week.
Tyrod Taylor went in the owner Woody Johnson made his
comments towards Justin Fields, and you know, when your quarterback
paraphrasing plays the way he does, you understand the record.
It would help if we could complete a pass and

(01:27:21):
which which publicly then created, then you imagine the feeding
frenzy in New York when the owner says that Rich
was asked last night, all things considered with this team,
do the issues begin with the quarterback?

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
Here's what he said.

Speaker 12 (01:27:33):
Well, if you ask the owner, Woody Johnson, he would
say it's the quarterback play. He basically threw Justin Field
under the bus yesterday when we approached him at the
league meetings. He you know, he just really dumped on
on Fields, which I mean what he said was not untrue.
I mean, Fields is not having a good year. This
team has gone They've only scored six touchdowns in the

(01:27:56):
last six games, and so they.

Speaker 8 (01:27:59):
Are really really strugging offensively.

Speaker 12 (01:28:01):
So yeah, I would say quarterback plays a big.

Speaker 3 (01:28:03):
Part of it.

Speaker 12 (01:28:04):
But early in the year, for the first five games,
the defense was horrible. I mean they were giving up
over thirty points a game. So they've been taking turns,
which I think bad teams usually do. And now the
defense has settled down. The defense has actually played two
good games in a row against Carolina and Denver. But
now the offense can't get it out of its own way.

(01:28:25):
Two streat games without a touchdown. But I would say
quarterback play is a big part of the issue, which
is why I believe Justin Gill is probably going to
the bench.

Speaker 6 (01:28:35):
Rock.

Speaker 4 (01:28:35):
If you don't have a quarterback, you're gonna have major
problems in this league. That's not breaking news. And this
Jets rundown of quarterbacks I looked at They've had six
different quarterback start games in the last two and a
half years. They've had fourteen different quarterbacks start games in
the last ten years. How about these names going back
to twenty sixteen, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Bryce Petty, Gino Smith, Josh McCown,

(01:28:58):
Sam Darnold, Luke Fall, Joe Flacco, Trevor Simeon, Mike White,
Tim Boyle, Aaron Rodgers, Justin Fields, tyrod Taylor. You're not
gonna win when it's a musical chairs like.

Speaker 5 (01:29:10):
That, which again makes it all the more Glenn howlten,
do we talk about with the Bengals just getting the
gift of Joe Burrow and not being able to protect
the investment because you got a franchise that is just
searching high and low to try to find that guy.
Haven't found him in over ten years, Maybe haven't found

(01:29:30):
him since Vinny Testa Verdie or you know, maybe that
one year Farv was there, maybe Paynington, but but yeah,
but yeah, it's tough when you're cycling through quarterbacks seemingly
year in year out.

Speaker 4 (01:29:42):
One name to keep an ear out for an eye
out for this weekend is Breace Hall. They're running back
who averages four and a half yards of carre's rushed
for almost five hundred yards. He's been a threat in
the passing game out of the backfield in recent years,
not as much this year. I mean he talked about
that aspect of their offense.

Speaker 12 (01:30:03):
They don't use him enough in the passing game. It's
kind of been one of the mysteries here.

Speaker 8 (01:30:08):
I think he's such.

Speaker 3 (01:30:09):
A good receiver.

Speaker 12 (01:30:10):
A couple of years ago he had seventy five catches
and he led all running backs, and now they don't
really use him that much. The Jets do not throw
screen passes to the running backs, which is always another mystery.
It would be a great way to slow down a
good pass rushing team, and yet they don't really do that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:27):
But they do have a good running game.

Speaker 12 (01:30:28):
Their entire offense is built on being a good running team.
Now when they have justin fields in there. In Week one,
they look dynamic against Pittsburgh with fields running some zone
reads and some RPOs, Breeze Hall running out of the
backfield of brayln Allen.

Speaker 8 (01:30:46):
It's like, my.

Speaker 12 (01:30:46):
Gosh, this looks like a pretty good offense. But they've
never been able to recapture what they had in Week one.

Speaker 5 (01:30:52):
I think teams.

Speaker 12 (01:30:53):
Adjusted to what they've been doing and stopping them on
first and second down, and when you get them in
third and long, they're just not equipped to be a
third and long type passing team.

Speaker 4 (01:31:04):
Rock you, I know you've had Matt Campbell and Iowa
stayed a couple of times over the years. Did you
have Breisee Hall? It would be a dynamic here's go. Yeah, Yeah,
great player.

Speaker 5 (01:31:13):
Yeah, and like I said, even in college, was really
good out of the backfield, but kind of probably goes
back to the quarterback situation.

Speaker 3 (01:31:20):
No doubt.

Speaker 4 (01:31:21):
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(01:32:04):
better odds to make the playoffs than the Bengals right now.
I find that very interesting. At one in five, they
still have better odds to take factor the fact remaining schedule,
stuff like like that, I would think, but it's it
is a little odd. The Bengals are certainly not in

(01:32:24):
as deeply into the picture as you would like. I
think they're ninth in the seventeen pecking order. The Ravens
are thirteenth and yet to have better odds to find
a way to get in. The two and five Browns
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Speaker 5 (01:32:57):
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Speaker 3 (01:33:21):
That is our look at the AFC North.

Speaker 4 (01:33:23):
When we come back, we usually call it our hot
topic around the NFL? Can we can we cheat a
little bit and expand it and call it the hot
topic around sports today? With what is transpiring that every
league is probably looking at thinking, oh, man, are we
okay in our league? Is this gonna happen in our league?
Can we get into the chia? Oh yeah, exactly right?

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And we got mafia stuff and x Ray Insider trading
information going on all of that as we continue.

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He's Rocky, I'm Lance.

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The more I read, the more incredible becomes. Thirty four

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individuals arrested part of a major investigation involving insider sports
betting and ragged illegal poker games. The headliners of this
the head coach of the Portland Trailblazers, former NBA star
Chauncey Billups, Miami heat guard Terry Rose, former NBA player
and NBA assistant Damon Jones. The cliff Notes version of this,

(01:35:06):
the insider betting involved those individuals defrauding people for over
a two year period based on betting information they were
getting from insider information from NBA players and teams, non
public information that they were then using on who was
going to set out future games, who with leap games
early based on injuries or illness that was used for

(01:35:27):
betting purposes at least once. Those involved in this the
arrest allegedly got their information by threatening John tay Porter,
who was a Toronto raptor in twenty twenty three and
twenty twenty four when he was banned by the NBA
for violating policies. They threatened him because of his pre
existing gambling debts. We need information from you to bet

(01:35:48):
on other games because you owe us money.

Speaker 3 (01:35:50):
There's also the rigged.

Speaker 4 (01:35:52):
Illegal poker games that fleeced victims of millions of dollars,
backed by the mafia, the Banana, the Gambino, and the
Jenni Jenna Jenna Bieci organized crime families that had control
over these and were using According to the reports, Chauncey Billups,
the head coach of the Portland drumon Blazers as the

(01:36:14):
face of these illegal gambling rings to attract players to
the table.

Speaker 3 (01:36:18):
I mean, you can't. This is like a movie.

Speaker 5 (01:36:20):
It's like they're separate but still intertwined.

Speaker 6 (01:36:22):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (01:36:23):
Yes, because Chauncey Billups was involved in both ends and
most angles of it. Here's what I can't understand. So
Rozier has made one hundred and sixty million dollars, looked
it up in his NBA career, and he's and he's
doing this.

Speaker 4 (01:36:39):
Why yeah, I and I run through the scenarios in
my head, and I could, I could kind of understand
if you were a player or someone like him. You think, man,
that there are so many opportunities gambling wise today. And
I see things and I hear things, and I ought
to be able to take that and turn it into

(01:37:01):
preven information or passing on to a front. And as
I said, what what is staggering to me among many
things in here just from the the sports gambling betting
on game standpoint, if it is so closely monitored now
and I guess the good is in this coming out
is it's because it's legal and above ground, it's monitors

(01:37:21):
and there's spotlights on it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:23):
And when suspicious activity takes place, red flags go up
and flash, and that's how stuff like this gets identified.
But back in the day, it was back alleys and
barroom corners and it was bags of cash and baseball
bats to your knees. At least it's exposed and monitored.

Speaker 4 (01:37:40):
So if you make a transaction that's suspicious, it's going
to pop up. If somebody tries to, you know, drop
twenty five thousand on a prop bed, if somebody scoring
x amount of points or somebody free throws, that is
going to pop up as something's up here and yet
it's still being done.

Speaker 5 (01:37:57):
That's the thing is that if you had the disc
plan to just bet in a mount that didn't attract, yes,
you could probably keep doing this forever, if you could
be happy with a thousand. But it's only human nature
to go, yeah, it'd be and you know, and you
probably do that for a couple of times, ten times,
and you're like, well wait a minute. You start looking

(01:38:18):
at like, I'm not you know, lose, I'm not winning
a thousand, I'm losing ten thousand because it could be
better better.

Speaker 4 (01:38:26):
Now, now explain that you were showing me the video
the illegal poker games I mean you talk about high
tech and what they're doing to to skew these well, and.

Speaker 5 (01:38:37):
Then you're talking about all the entities involved here. I
mean you're talking decks of cards that had you could
put on these like sunglasses looking things, look like X
ray goggles, and they would tell you what it was.
A King of Hearts cards could see yeah, cards flat down,
face down on the table. But you I guess, like
some sort of watermark or a you know, almost like

(01:38:58):
like a black light kind of situation, you could see it.
I heard also read there's like contact lenses that could
do this, and the uh the I never go to
auto ice shufflers. That's roll number one. You never do that. Yeah.
But also like like cameras inside like the chip trays yep,
I mean just the defender of the movie stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:39:20):
The defendants allegedly used high tech cheating technology to steal
millions of dollars from victims in secretly fixed underground poker games,
with the head coach of the Portland Trailblazers as the
face to attract the big players to the tables here.

Speaker 5 (01:39:36):
Like I know, football coaches, they don't have a waking
second right to like where how is he going to
poker matches and ye and doing all this stuff like
that'd be the first red flag is wait, man, how
come we're not well?

Speaker 4 (01:39:49):
And the real scary part of this the John tay
Porter aspect of getting information from a player.

Speaker 3 (01:39:56):
Who was being squeezed, who.

Speaker 4 (01:39:58):
Had been gambling, had really lost money, was in debt.
And then when you're in debt to them and they
start tightening screws and they say we need the money
tomorrow at five, and you say I don't have it,
then their idea is, all right, then what can you
offer us? Give us insider information on Friday nights game,
give us something we can use, and then.

Speaker 5 (01:40:19):
Then they show you. They show you, well, here's three
pieces of information that you'll find interesting. These are all
receipts of you engaging in illegal Yes, and.

Speaker 4 (01:40:29):
Mom and Damon Jones, the former NBA player, was also
a I don't know he was a volunteer assistant, but
he was somehow involved on the staff with the Lakers, who,
according to the text and the transcripts, at one point
was sending text to individuals saying bet and I think
the Lakers are playing the Spurs or whoever the Lakers
are playing. He was saying, and capital letters bet the

(01:40:50):
other team because he knew Lebron was not going to play.
It wasn't public knowledge yet, but he knew as being
part of the organization Lebron wasn't playing. Passes all that
information and major money was bad. Now that went right there.

Speaker 5 (01:41:04):
Well, you just said, I have to imagine happens more
than a possibly more than you possibly think, because look,
if you're a player on a team, and I've been there,
like in a Titans locker room, I know that Steve
McNair is not playing in that game. But but it's
not on the official injury board, it's not out there.
But that's that's kind of important information that if the

(01:41:28):
right people got it. And I think with with everything
happening online, it's just added an extra layer of like obscurity. Yes,
and and players can kind of justify to themselves and
you call your buddy and say, hey, look, by the way,
you might want to know that this this, this guy's
out and that guy's out kind of thing, and and
then it can go from there.

Speaker 3 (01:41:49):
Man, oh man, this thing just getting started.

Speaker 5 (01:41:51):
Well tomorrow there's gonna be just wait, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:41:55):
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Speaker 4 (01:41:56):
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Twenty first rank You See welcomes Baylor to Knippert for
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six points a game in conference, Baylor thirty five. Brandon
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and Baylor Sawyer Robertson second in the country with twenty three.
Robertson leads the nation in passing yards per game three
thirty nine and touchdown passes that should be a good
one and a high scoring one Saturday at Nippert. Number
one Ohio State has the weekend off before hosting Penn
State next weekend. Kentucky mains home for a border battle
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Last opportunity for Big Blue Nation to hit both Keeland
and football in the same day. Tennessee has a four
game win streak over Kentucky. Miami puts its four game
win streak on the line versus Western Michigan kickoff three thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:44:16):
It's family weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:44:17):
It's also their cancer awareness game, and last week's went
over Eastern Michigan. The red Hawks time of possession was
forty two minutes, a record in the Chuck Martin era,
including a monster twenty play scoring drive for the Red Hawks.
Notre Dame gets the weekend off before shipping up to
Boston to take on Boston College. Jerem Love two twenty

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eight yards rushing.

Speaker 5 (01:44:41):
Man last week.

Speaker 4 (01:44:43):
Yeah, nice comeback for your Irish under the lights in
South Bed. Number two Indiana takes on UCLA for a
noonkick in Bloomington. The Bruins have won three straight under
interim coach Tim Skipper. The Hoosiers didn't punt last week
against Michigan State. It's the first Big Ten game they
didn't have a punt since.

Speaker 3 (01:44:59):
Nin teen eighty nine. After back to back road games.

Speaker 4 (01:45:03):
Purdue comes home to face Rutgers in the Boilermakers' annual
homecoming game number nineteen. Louisville back home and ranked for
the first time this season, The Cards host Boston College.
Louisville's defense ranked number ten in the country and knocked
off Miami last week Atually Hurricanes Kyle Bobcats hit the
road to face the Eastern Michigan Thomas Moore travels to
North Campon, Ohio. They'll take on Walsh University and it's

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homecoming for Mount Saint Joe versus Franklin. How are you
feeling about your Irish feeling better?

Speaker 5 (01:45:31):
Feel good? I mean went out which knock on wood
is doable? For sure?

Speaker 3 (01:45:37):
I think they're in all right.

Speaker 4 (01:45:39):
A couple of other topics beyond our gambling hot topic
around the NFL. I'd be interested in your thoughts on.
There is a situation and folding with the Baltimore Ravens.
It plays out often, has played out often over the years.
When teams are not playing well and they're struggling, they
look for things to maybe change the focus. In this case, the.

Speaker 3 (01:45:59):
Baltimore The initial report was coach's decision.

Speaker 4 (01:46:04):
It's since come out. It was really the veteran player's decision.
Whoever made the decision. The Baltimore Ravens have removed from
their locker room the ping pong tables, the cornhole boards,
the basketball hoop, the pinball machine, and the video game consoles.
Rock your reaction to the one to five Baltimore Ravens

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pulling out all the stops to refocus the troops by
eliminating all the fun stuff in the locker room.

Speaker 5 (01:46:30):
I'm for it. I don't think I would have it
in there to begin with.

Speaker 4 (01:46:34):
Did you ever have did the call? Did Tony Dungee
ever have ping pong tables and cornhole boards?

Speaker 5 (01:46:39):
No gods have like video game consoles. But you know,
really that was just Dawhight Freeny that played it all
the time. He was good and so it didn't matter. Yeah,
never was on a team that had had any of
that stuff. So yeah, I didn't have to worry about it.
But I just feel like, especially now guys have their phones.
Everyone's in their locker with their phones. I have one

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more thing that's a distraction. I mean, you're here at work,
we'll get you in, we'll get you out. I just
don't think you know, you can play corn hole on
your own time.

Speaker 4 (01:47:11):
My thought would be, having considered the workplace, I think
our station could use a ping pong table and a
basketball hoop and some cornhole boards. And in that area
when we walk in it's kind of open space. We
can put up a basketball hoop, cornhole boards.

Speaker 7 (01:47:29):
Lance.

Speaker 5 (01:47:30):
We're just trying to get coffee cups and coffee.

Speaker 4 (01:47:33):
I could see you at Eddie like during the bottom
of the hour news, go out and toss some cornhole bags.

Speaker 3 (01:47:39):
Yeah, I got to.

Speaker 5 (01:47:39):
Do something, take up some of that space.

Speaker 3 (01:47:41):
That's the room for a little like Golden Tea and
gold guy.

Speaker 4 (01:47:48):
Yeah, have played in a while, yea time, and there
there was there was what they Yeah, you know that
could be a good I mean like once like a
team building activity or something, but not all the time.
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five on the air. One other note for one other
note from the NFL, What do you make of this?
They've done so much in changing the kickoffs over the years,
you know, the kickoff and then it was concussions and
too much collision and we got to change it, and
then nothing was happening on kickoffs and then they changed
it again and now the kickoff is back, but one
thing that's not back is the on side kick. This

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season there have been and the on side kick has
been reduced to the no surprise on sidekick. You have
to tell the other team we're gonna try it on
side kick, so be ready for that's part of the rule,
so it's no surprise. There have been twenty one on
side kick attempts this year. There has been one recovered
by the kicking team. That's a four point seven percent

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recovery rate rocket following me four point seven percent. League
sources say the league would prefer the rate to be
about twelve percent. They like a little bit more, not
too much, but a little bit more to at least
give teams a chance and add to the excitement of
the play. So they say twelve percent would be in
their ballpark. If you go back from two thy through

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twenty seventeen, the on side recovery rate was pushing twenty percent.
It was getting up there, but it has dropped obviously dramatically.
There is an option that John Elway, when he was
at the Broncos in their in their general manager role,
he had floated the idea which is now resurfacing again.
And the idea would be in lieu of the on

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side kick. If you score late, pull within you know,
ten points or whatever with two minutes to go and
you want to try an on side kick, that would
be replaced by one play. You get to attempt a
fourth and fifteen and I forget yard line that would
that would be I guess if you get the thirty
twenty five twenty twenty five, So they say, all right,

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light and liubit. On side kick You get one snap
a fourth and fifteen. If you make it, you keep
the possession and get to continue your drive. If you don't.
If you fail, the other team takes over at that spot.
Is that the school of thought is it's too gimmicky
for some of the league. And the other thought is

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how much of that is going to turn into a
conversion based on a pass interference that you didn't truly
convert the fourth and fifteen without the penalty being called
on the defense pass interference?

Speaker 5 (01:50:31):
Does the thing I would worry about, ye, pass interference?

Speaker 4 (01:50:35):
Yeah, you know the classic underthrown and the defender runs
into the receiver.

Speaker 5 (01:50:39):
And by the way, I remind you of I'm trying
to look this up. Doesn't the UFL do that that?

Speaker 3 (01:50:46):
I don't I think. I want to say they tore it.

Speaker 4 (01:50:51):
I think, I think because I think that was part
of the original argument.

Speaker 3 (01:50:55):
The NFL will never.

Speaker 4 (01:50:56):
Do it because they that league does it, and the
NFL doesn't like admitting other things work in other leagues.

Speaker 3 (01:51:01):
So I think they may use it in that league.

Speaker 5 (01:51:04):
Yeah, but didn't. But but didn't the the new age
kickoff come from the UFL as well?

Speaker 3 (01:51:12):
Maybe?

Speaker 5 (01:51:13):
I think so.

Speaker 4 (01:51:14):
I think that a trial. Well, remember at one point,
which league was it. Remember they just put the ball
in the middle of the field. It had two guys
start on the opposite ends and then go and it
was a run to the center of the field and
the scrum and whoever recovered the ball got it.

Speaker 5 (01:51:27):
I remember that when in the World League was it
the World League or no, the XFL. There was no
fair catches. I do remember that.

Speaker 4 (01:51:34):
So for I understand that the gimmicky side of it.
I understand the drama, the intrigue of watching that type.
I mean, I guess I think it's weird. They call
it a fourth and fifteen or fourth and twenty alternay,
it's really not a fourth day. It's just a it's
a play, one shot, it's one play, So I don't
know why they call it a fourth down.

Speaker 3 (01:51:54):
I did see this NFL data.

Speaker 4 (01:51:59):
Take this for what it's The numbers indicate the success
rate of a fourth and seventeen play is twelve percent,
So the league is looking for something closer to a
twelve percent recovery rate. Fourth and seventeen delivers the rate
most often. That would be what the league is looking for.

Speaker 5 (01:52:18):
I just wish there was I know there's not a
way to do it because of the nature of it,
but a way to allow there to be a guess. Yes,
I don't love the new kick. I understand that it's
allowed more kicks to be returned, and that's not the
hearn or there. But yeah, and you have to, you know,
signal that you're going for. That takes away that it.

Speaker 3 (01:52:39):
Defends the purpose of the on side kick.

Speaker 5 (01:52:42):
I don't know where do you fall? Do you think
the fourth and seventeen?

Speaker 1 (01:52:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:52:45):
I get the drama of it. I also understand how
gimmicky it appears. I mean, can you imagine a scenario
where the Bengals pull within whatever a touchdown? With a
minute to go, and and this is in play, and
I'd like my chances of Joe Burrow or Joe Flacco
lining up with Higgins and Chase and Yoshi and saying, guys,

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we've got one shot here, fourth and seventeen, fourth and
twenty whatever it is, take your chances.

Speaker 5 (01:53:16):
I mean, the NFL has always not been shy about
changing things when we go to the pat and yep,
it's I understand this is an entertainment situation. And if that,
I mean my college game last night. If if NTSU scores,
you know there, they could go for the on side kick,
and they did go for the onside kick.

Speaker 3 (01:53:35):
Yea.

Speaker 5 (01:53:37):
So there was some, you know, a little element of
drama to that.

Speaker 4 (01:53:40):
So it will be discussed at the owners meeting. I
think that's next week. I would come out.

Speaker 5 (01:53:47):
I would love to hear a third option, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:53:49):
That's not a bad idea.

Speaker 5 (01:53:51):
Yeah, something I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:53:53):
Less gimmicky, but still dramatic. Right right, all right, we
come back. Let's discuss your marathon game last night, and
let's discuss Joe Flacco and Delaware and how his presence
is very much felt around there. Can we do that
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dot Com slash Careers. You have traveled already this week
and called a game last night that seemingly would not end.

Speaker 5 (01:54:49):
It took about four hours and it's due to what
it was who For those who didn't watch the MTSU
at Delaware Delaware cool story. Their first year in the FPS.
They've been a FCS powerhouse for for for a while,
won some a bunch of titles back in the nineties,
two thousands, that kind of thing. But now in their

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first year and in conference, USA are playing well and yeah,
and the game took forever because of because of reviews
and referees and flags. That again, the one one that
had me was there was no penalty called the booth
calls down, says, hey, we think there's a penalty. They
review it and say, no, there wasn't a penalty after all.

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You gotta be kidding me. That's that's stupid.

Speaker 4 (01:55:35):
And Troy Aikman said, uh, what of officiating and the
impact on games?

Speaker 3 (01:55:39):
It is during the Bengals.

Speaker 5 (01:55:40):
Game, I think it was I just remember him saying,
he said, nothing will ruin a broadcast faster than those
yellow flags. And it's it's truth. And and I always
complained that, you know, referees, they don't understand like how
people consume this product anymore. No one is sitting down

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and watching and leaving the channel on just that game,
with no other entertainment venues going on at all. Everyone's
sitting there. I would say ninety percent of people watch
a game with their phone in their hand, and then
during a commercial break they'll football on Netflix, they'll go
over here. And when there's no there's laws in action,
you're just forcing people to turn your broadcast off and

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possibly never come back.

Speaker 3 (01:56:25):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:56:25):
And the real difficulty for me became as a former
UC football season ticket holder, sitting in the stands at
a game with those delays and the commercial breaks, and
my eyes would always go to the official with the
yardstick with the timer on top that showed how long
the break was gonna be.

Speaker 3 (01:56:42):
I'm like, oh my goodness.

Speaker 5 (01:56:43):
Now that's very interesting you bring that up, because one
of the things going on now that I've both read
about and experienced myself is the amount of students, especially fans,
leaving college football games early. There was an LSU South
Carolina game in Death Valley Places Rock and Night game,

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seven point ball game in the fourth quarter and the
stadium is half empty. JMU last week they played ODU
and and I talked to their staff and they're like, yeah,
the students kind of leave after halftime. And I think
that's what's at play here is the attention span is
out there, like I'm gonna go crazy. I can't. I
can't stand, you know, having nothing to do. My brain

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needs some sort of interestment. Yea, Joe Flacco in Delaware
tell me about that. I mean, he's I get I
said this during the broadcast. I don't know if there's
a player more associated with a university than Joe Flacco, right,
I mean, when you think of Delaware football, if you
think of Delaware football. You go, oh, that's where Joe
Flacco went, you know, so he's synonymous with it. He's

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very good to the very good to Delaware. There's the
Joe Flacco family weight room. Really all sore Nex equipment.
It's it's all. What's the coaches said is iron because
when he played there and a lot of his NFL
career until recently, he was not a workout guy at all.
But I'm sure you heard him talk about how he

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said he's never felt better because he's he's doing the
cold tubs and the hot tubs and thesaunas and the
weight rooms and all that sort of stuff and yep,
which is enabling him to play it at this age.
But yeah, I thought that was funny that, you know,
he puts a million of dollars for a weight room
when that was probably the last place he went when
he was a player. There.

Speaker 4 (01:58:29):
By the way, while we're talking officiating, I don't know
if you heard this earlier today about the SEC official.
Veteran SEC official Ken Williamson has been permanently suspended from
officiating conference games. The decision to remove the longtime referee
came in the immediate week of the SEC review of
eleven complaints against Williamson and his crew during the Auburn

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Georgia game earlier this month. According to sources, nine of
those eleven complaints were validated by conference officials, and he
has been permanently removed from officiating SEC games.

Speaker 3 (01:59:03):
How about that, I mean, do.

Speaker 5 (01:59:05):
We know the instances? Was the things he called or
things he didn't call?

Speaker 4 (01:59:09):
It?

Speaker 3 (01:59:09):
Oh, then that's a good question that I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:59:14):
Because I always think that that's the reason why there's
so many flags. Is I from what officials I've talked to,
that you're more incentivized in your reviews to throw a
flag and be wrong than to not throw a flag
and be wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:59:27):
Yeah, yeah, that does make sense.

Speaker 4 (01:59:30):
Yeah, I'm not I don't see a breakdown of it.
But he is done from the the SEC. So you
do not have a game this weekend, but we'll travel
at the start of the week.

Speaker 5 (01:59:41):
Yeah, a Tuesday night game in San Marcos, Texas, Texas
State at or assuming jam you at Texas State. Texas State.
I mean, you're talking about a snake bitten team. They were,
you know, picked to be a contender in the West,
but they've lost you know, like two overtime games. In
the fourth quarter against Troy, Troy scored I think like

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twenty one or twenty eight points in the fourth quarter
to come back and win. So yeah, they've been kind
of I haven't really had time to dive into them,
but had JMU last week, and they're the real deal.
I mean, they got a real, live defense, and they
have the thing that hardly any teams have anymore, which
is depth on their d line, especially they'll rotate like

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nine guys. They got this running back named Wayne Knight,
who I compared to Darren Sprolls, who was a guy
I played against so I hated playing against because he was,
you know, five ft six, lightning quick and you couldn't
find him because he hide behind three hundred pound guys
and just burst out. So yeah, they're they're a fun team.
I love that Bob Chesney is the is the head

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coach of JMU. He was at holy Cross a couple
of years ago. I think he's gonna be a guy
that gets a bigger job. I will certainly be offered
bigger jobs, power forward jobs this coming year. Was if
he takes it, our.

Speaker 4 (02:01:01):
Time is up, time flew, Let's gather next Thursday night,
the Bengals will have beaten the Jets. They'll be at
the five hundred mark if they don't. If they don't,
then we'll show up and drink.

Speaker 5 (02:01:13):
Heavily, heavily, heavily. It can't, no, it can't.

Speaker 4 (02:01:18):
If they lose, then Scott's got to hang around another
week and Scott.

Speaker 3 (02:01:22):
Can do the show while we sit and eat wings.

Speaker 5 (02:01:26):
Now we're gonna fly to Australia, do the show and
drink Australian beer. And there you go, there you go.

Speaker 3 (02:01:32):
All right, We're done.

Speaker 4 (02:01:33):
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