Mike Allen Jr and Sr in for Bill on Sunday Night 10/19/2025

Mike Allen Jr and Sr in for Bill on this Sunday night. Bolton is finally facing charges...the government is shut down and more liberal goofiness. Guests include Greg Rabidoux, legal expert Steve Goodin and Daniel Greenfield.

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Now here's the man who's been recognized as radio's best,
the recipient of not one, but two prestigious Marconi Awards
for his broadcast.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Exodence, the one and only Bill Cunningham.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Well, sorry about that, No, Bill Cunningham. Tonight, it's Mike
Allen Senior, Mike Allen Jr. I think this is about
our fourth or fifth time doing this, Mike, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
Yeah, I'd say more than more than four times.

Speaker 5 (00:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
I tell you I really appreciate Willy giving us an
opportunity because this is a fun show. Absolutely, let's just
do this right now. If you want to be a
part of it. The number is eight six six six
four seven seven three three seven. You know, Mike, I've
been meaning to ask you. Did you make make it
to the No More Kings yesterday?

Speaker 4 (01:24):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:24):
I actually forgot they were going on until I got
on Twitter and you and me were talking about this.
I don't think I saw one minority in the crowd.
You know, you're right yeah, and you never do no no,
And we were talking what is it about like, and
it's always somewhere between the ages of maybe thirty and

(01:46):
I don't know, mid sixties, upper middle class white folks,
mostly upper middle class white women, that's sure, And I
don't understand whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Well, you get the three hundred pound women, those rings
and pink hair, singing to Peter Paul and Mary's songs. Yeah,
that's it seems to be the deal with all of them.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
Two points, the first one being the most obvious one.
Michelle Obama if you remember her sort of project every
first lady has like hers, was to get people exercising
and moving. And I always say this, nobody gets fat
overweight women moving like Donald Trump does because every single
and hate I hate to generalize, but screw it, I'm

(02:29):
going to generalize. Most of the people. I'd say forty
to fifty percent of the crowd was middle class, white
overweight women. But the other point is is that, and
I make this point on on the other shows that
we're on, is that the left doesn't it seems like
they don't stand for anything. They just stand against Donald Trump.

(02:50):
You know what I mean, right, I mean, there's no protests,
and that's the things you were talking earlier about. You know,
some of the protesters they quoted, there's no real thing
that they quote other than the existence of Donald Trump
and the fact that he's the President of the United States.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
Neil, I always.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Wonder what they think they accomplish, honestly.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
Things other than again, for the overweight people, burning calories,
getting outside and getting some daylight. Because these people people
say they need to go outside and touch grass. They
went outside, they touched grass, and it didn't change anything.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
They're obviously still angry and overweight.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
And then of.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Course the media asked to do somersaults and make it
out a much bigger thing than it was. I think
this is so funny. I've got to share this with everyone. Okay,
so this is NPR. Some call it c R. They
are they talk to Mike Johnson. He slams Saturday. Sam

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slam Saturday's protest as the Hate America Rally, and other
Republicans have derided the that is anti American, which it is.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
But here's the good one. I just love this.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Responding to NPR's questions about the protest, White House spokesman
spokeswoman Abigail Jackson said, who cares well?

Speaker 5 (04:15):
I mean, honestly, new words. Nobody's listening anymore. I mean truly,
nobody's listening anymore. And to your point about that, I
can't remember which outlet did it. One of the you know, communists,
left leaning outlets, which most of them are showed a
pro showed the same event from twenty sixteen and it

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was like thousands and thousands of people and claimed that
it was in twenty twenty four. And it was like
they showed the one, the real one in twenty twenty four.
There was like twenty people there. I mean, it's just
it again, what do you stand for? Or is it
just standing against Donald Trump? I mean, and that's emblematic
of why they're tanking right before the midterms.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
There's no question about it. Yeah, and I knew.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
That would happen, that media would fall all over it.
But again, I'll just ask this rhetorically.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
You've already addressed it. What did they accomplish?

Speaker 6 (05:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (05:08):
Nothing, Yeah, just yelling into the abyss. Nobody's listening anymore,
I hear you. Yeah, Hey, let me ask you this.
John Bolton, I know how much you like him. Yeah,
he's cooked man ten counts of retention of national defense information.
They're calling it, the DJs calling it a digital diaryote

(05:31):
Apparently he shared every single day. Would would basically write
down every single thing that he did, whether it was
classified or not, and then would send emails of it
to people and with people. Of course, you know, they
melted down about James Comey's indictment. The Left is kind
of quiet about this one. Oh yeah, And here's why.

(05:52):
Apparently this began. The investigation began in the Biden administration.
This started in twenty twenty two, and of course Iran
had hacked some national defense information or whatever. And through
Iran hacking John Bolton's information is how the the Biden
administration found out about it. And what I think is hilarious.

(06:15):
And this is coming from CNN and the New York Times,
which you know whatever.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
I guess.

Speaker 5 (06:19):
When Cashpttel was getting into the FBI and he was
being briefed on this investigation, his response was, quote, why
isn't this MF in jail? Right off the bat? And
so I didn't realize this. Apparently six or seven Biden
DOJ prosecutors signed this indictment, whereas only one signed the

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James Comy one.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
And here's the thing.

Speaker 5 (06:45):
What discussed me about this guy, and you know my
feelings on George W. Bush and all that, you know,
the Iraq War and all that, is the lecturing that
he would go on TV constantly and lecture about how
Donald Trump was reckless with classified information and how anybody
who does this should go to prison. And it's like
the I mean, that just tells you that the arrogance

(07:07):
and hubris of this guy to just run his mouth
the way he did about this and just oh, all
the while he's got all this stuff on his computer.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
It's just it's it's almost like he's taunting them, right.
And I heard at least three legal analysts this week say, hey,
you know there's some meat on these bones. Absolutely, you
know it's going to be a dogfight in court.

Speaker 5 (07:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
By the way, I just let the audience know we
are going to have a legal analyst at right what time,
at eleven thirty, Steve Gooden. We're going to ask him
about this case. But the consensus among them seems.

Speaker 5 (07:44):
To be that there is a there there, of course,
and you know in his response, it wouldn't be anything
involving Donald Trump without one of his enemies, comparing him
to some European fascists or dictator. He says, this is
a Donald Trump doing what essentially the KGB did.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
Find me the man, and he'll find the crime.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
It's just to the bitter freaking end, and just as
an aside as to the judgment of this guy. I mean,
you remember when Trump hired him. I was I livid.
I was livid. And the reason being is, and this
isn't like twenty eighteen. Somebody asked him, do you regret
going into a rock? And he just there was no

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second thought about it. I would do it all over again.
And it's just like, man, I mean, do you do
any self reflection?

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Are you capable? Well, and you know, we've talked about
this for years. One of the main traits of a liberal,
I think is arrogance. Yeah, he can never admit they're wrong, right,
But he's not a liberal, he's just a neocon. You know, Well,
we shall see what happens to him.

Speaker 5 (08:50):
Yeah. I think he's cooked. Man. You know it is
what it is.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
It sure seems like it. Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
I don't know. Well, you know, law fair.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
The only thing I can say that is and not
there be a kid on the playground who started it, right,
you know, we didn't start well, it's so funny.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
It's just how out of nowhere.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
And this is the other thing is these idiots along
with them, you know. And speaking of the fat girl
protests the other day, I saw somebody that had a
sign and this is what's so funny about the left
that said one said protect free speech, which is just
comical coming out, yeah, and then another one was basically

(09:28):
stop weaponizing the justice system. And it's just like wait, wait,
hold on you last he was indicted six or seven tot.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
And that's what's stunning about it.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
From John Bolton to these folks, there's no ability to
go look in the mirror and realize how idiotic they
all look, you know what I mean, Oh, I know,
and it's just amazing.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
You know, I'm gonna have fun with you for a
couple of years probably on this thing, because you know
how it is, it'll last that long.

Speaker 5 (09:58):
Yeah yeah, yeah, it just it never ends, man, it
never ends. But I mean that, I mean, it is
absolutely jaw dropping to me the way that this man
lectured about classified documents, and it's just typical, typical fashion
the projection he's doing exactly what he's accusing others.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Not to simplify things though, but you know, what goes
around comes around.

Speaker 5 (10:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
You know, politics is a hard, hard sport.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Yeah, and revenge and payback is a big part of it.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
This went beyond Polini, yeah, yeah, the other ones. Yeah,
but the other ones, I mean that was that was
them just flipping the table. I mean they crossed the
line that I don't think you can ever get back,
and here we are living it right now. Man, turnabouts,
fair play.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
You're right.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Hey, listen, we have to take a short break. I
want to give the number out one more time. Eight
six six six four seven seven three three seven Mike Allen,
Mike Allen Junior In for the Great American.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
They were back.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Mike Allen Senior, Mike Allen Jr. In for the Great American.
Willie Cunning amateur. Well we're lighting up that board there, Mike.
You want to take some calls? Yeah, why not. Let's
take Danny in Oklahoma. Hey, how you doing, Danny?

Speaker 6 (11:23):
Pretty good? Here you goes, I'm what you.

Speaker 5 (11:25):
Got for us.

Speaker 7 (11:28):
Well, I had a couple of things on my mind,
first being the the DOJ investigation and the Russian inclusion delusion.
I was kind of wondering if I can't remember the
name of the judge that they said that signed off
on the Dausier even though it was he had no

(11:49):
evidence apparently to justify signing off on the Dassier.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (11:54):
And then Christopher Steele, they're going to call him in
along with the judge and others. And then as far
as the government shut down, I wanted your guys opinion
on since all this cloture so called cloture business debating
isn't going anywhere, isn't it time for the Senate Republican
just to go ahead and go with the nuclear option.

(12:15):
That way, they just require you know, a majority, you know,
to go ahead and pass the budget and reopen the government.

Speaker 5 (12:26):
Yeah, thanks for the call, man, I just the filibuster.
I'm pretty sure that's what he's talking about. And that man,
once you open that up, you know what I mean.
I just worry that if we blew it up now
that they would. I mean, that's the thing about the
left is they don't understand that one day the Republicans

(12:47):
will be in But they didn't understand that but before
it would be a mistake for us to make that
same judgment.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
I think, well, I'll tell you we were talking about
it just before in the last segment.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
Yeah, it matters. Who's stars. Hey, j D. How you doing?

Speaker 5 (13:05):
Hello, j D? I think we lost him. Oh yeah,
I didn't know that was Danny. I think JD, they're gone.
I think he's gone. No, I think the guy though
he was. He talked about Russia too, and the judge
for the Pies Awards. That's funny we mentioned it. That's

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one of the charges I think that that Komy should
have been indicted for. But it is. I think it
was a a statute of limitations issue. That judge was
lied to, you know what I mean. That's that's the
problem is Comy had a duty. Every single person involved
in that warrant had a duty to go to that

(13:49):
PISA court and say, wait a minute, we just found
out the Steele dossier is all BS and that's one
of the things that they all should have been charged with.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
That.

Speaker 5 (13:57):
I can't blame the judge. I blame the people for
lowing to the judge.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
You know, you and I are both attorneys, yeah, both
trial attorneys. I'm retired, thank god. But if we would
have done something like that. At a minimum, disordinary action
might have been taken.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
Why the hell wasn't it on that dal right?

Speaker 5 (14:16):
Think about a prosecutor or a judge. I mean, you
were a municipal court judge. I remember in the middle
of the night the cops showing up at our house. Yeah,
and you you're not. You only as the judge can
only work with what's presented to you in the search
warrant in the affidavit. You can't verify that information. But
the person who lies about it I a prosecutor or

(14:36):
a law enforcement officer, they're probably gonna end up charged
criminally and obviously fired.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
You know what I mean. I mean, that's one one would.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Think, you know, and obviously lawyers need to hang on
to their licenses.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
And that was just flat out lies and front.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
Don't don't get it twisted. James Comey is only indicted
with one count of what he's charged with because of
the staf you to limitations. Had there not been a
statue to limitations issue, that guy's indictment would have been
longer than I think John Bolton's.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Well, we'll have to see what happens with all this stuff.
Let's talk to Joe in New Hampshire. Hey, good morning,
good afternoon, good evening.

Speaker 8 (15:17):
Joe, Allo, Mike Senior and Junior. Last time I spoke, yeah,
the last time I spoke with you, I told you
about the pennies being discontinued.

Speaker 5 (15:27):
Oh yeah, yeah, now.

Speaker 8 (15:31):
And finding some twenty twenty five pennies because they're extinct.
And I haven't been able to get any twenty twenty
five pennies, have you.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
I haven't seen any. No, all of mine are sitting
in a jar at my house.

Speaker 8 (15:44):
Well, after one hundred and sixteen years of Abraham Lincoln
on the penny, it's gone.

Speaker 9 (15:49):
It's sad, but that's the way it goes.

Speaker 8 (15:52):
I'm calling tonight about the situation with those drug boats
and submarines coming out of Venul Columbia. Gee, you know
now that they're attacking these vessels you had We had
no idea.

Speaker 9 (16:06):
What was going on.

Speaker 8 (16:07):
I mean, the speed ships we knew, but submarines where
we had submarine surposing you know Florida coast, right, you know,
it's it's really scary. But here's the thing. The drug
cartels out of Mexico put out a threat warning last
week to the ice agents and they put bounties out

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specific amount.

Speaker 5 (16:28):
I heard that.

Speaker 8 (16:30):
What's your opinion. I'm sure Donald Trump has the best
protection in the world, but he puts himself out there
and with what he's doing to the drug cartel business,
billions of dollars being lost.

Speaker 9 (16:42):
Now I'm sure.

Speaker 8 (16:45):
I don't know you could spend five hundred suicide attackers
just for the sole purpose of assassination. Remember that movie
Scarface without Pachina.

Speaker 9 (16:55):
Oh sorry, do you remember that movie back in nineteen
eighty star Face?

Speaker 5 (17:00):
Oh yeah, forget it, man, I've seen it a million times.

Speaker 8 (17:06):
Yeah, they castro you know, just like our border.

Speaker 9 (17:10):
They let everybody out of.

Speaker 8 (17:11):
The prisons and mental institutions. Well, Donald Trump wasn't exaggerating
because in that movie in nineteen eighty, that's exactly.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
What Murial Boat was.

Speaker 10 (17:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (17:19):
Yeah, the drug cartels in South Florida, you know, exploded.
So that movie was based a lot on that. But
you swear what happened at the end of the movie,
they sent a hit squad of about five hundred cartel
people to assassinate you know, Fachino. So I'm just I'm
just concerned about the safety of Donald Trump. I pray
for him and his safety all the time. And I

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think the fact that he survived those two assassination attempts
and everything else, maybe divine intervention.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Hey, you know what, we're bumping up against the break here,
So really appreciate your call.

Speaker 9 (17:55):
Yeah, thank you. I appreciate the two of you.

Speaker 5 (17:57):
Thank you, may well, thank you.

Speaker 11 (17:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (17:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
I wonder if he heard what happened today with.

Speaker 5 (18:03):
The tree stand Yeah yeah, yeah, Well apparently they found
one where he gets on the Air Force one. But
I will say this. You know he's costing them millions
and millions of dollars. I mean, if I mean, I can,
I'll put it to you this way. There's a reason
we've declared war on the cartels because you know, they've
obviously put out hits on ice agents.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
Hey man, we have a president.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Now it's gonna it's gonna take the bull by the horns.

Speaker 5 (18:28):
Yeah yeah, but no, that that's scary. What we saw
today with the tree I don't know much about it.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
I don't either.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
While you were gone, I was watching it on Fox
a little bit, and he apparently had to go get
in Air Force one from the back way for some
security reason.

Speaker 5 (18:46):
Yeah, if you're wondering what the hell we're talking about.
Apparently there was a hunters blind about a thousand yards
away from where Donald Trump gets on Air Force one
and with a clear line of sight, and you and
I I don't I would not shock me if there
was another shot take.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
I know, I know, I know. Hey, listen, we got
to take a break. But when we get back, we
are going to talk. Great guests. I've had him on
a number of times, Greg Rabado, and he's going to
talk about everything good that happened over in the Mideast
and where the hell are the Democrats in the media.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
We'll do that when we get back.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Hey, we're back, Mike Allen, Mike Allen Jr. In for
the great American Willie Cunningham, and we're happy to be
doing it.

Speaker 10 (19:45):
Sir.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
I'll tell you what I really.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Like this guest. I've had him on a number of times.
Last Monday, October thirteenth was a historic day for Israelis,
Palestinians and Jews everywhere. The guns went silent throughout the
Gaza Strip, the IDF the Israeli Defense Forces. As a
part of the agreement engineered by President Trump, they pulled

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back their forces and the remaining living hostages were released
and it was a great day really for the whole world.
Now no one is sure that it will last. And
today and yesterday it looks like Hamas is violating, but
you know they will be dealt with. They'll be dealt with.
And again I still think it was a great day.

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But not surprisingly, those on the left who vehemently protested
against the war were absolutely silent.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
That's shocking.

Speaker 5 (20:41):
Yeah, that's more shocking than Hamas violated a ceasefire or
the left not giving Donald Trump credit for.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
Nobody thought that would happen.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
And here to talk about it is doctor Greg Brabado.
He is an award winning documentary filmmaker, author, professor, and consultant.
He's known for producing films about important social and political issues.
He is the co founder of Vaalmar Films and has
directed documentary such he has Stolen Babies of Spain, Letters

(21:10):
to the Pope, and One Man's Quest for the Truth.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
Greg really appreciate you joining us my pleasure.

Speaker 6 (21:18):
Guys.

Speaker 12 (21:18):
Hey, look, I know Joe Flacco, but you're gonna.

Speaker 9 (21:21):
Have to just do with me as well.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
I'll tell you what did you watch him Monday night?

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Man?

Speaker 12 (21:28):
It was like the Battle of the Geriatrics. He had
Aaron Rodgers. I swear there was a play where he
put some smelling salts in him, like right before he
got the ball snapped to him, and then Joe was
on the other side putting Ben gay on.

Speaker 9 (21:39):
It was beautiful because all of us hope.

Speaker 5 (21:42):
Guys, that's Greg. This will this will tell you how
I felt. You think Joe Flacco felt old. I'm thirty
eight years old and I actually watched Joe Flecco in
the Division one Double A national championship against Appalachian State,
and I'm thinking of like, oh, they were talking about
how we're there. Oh yeah, I was there. Yeah, A
big fan was living down there. But man, it was

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something else. But anyway on the important things.

Speaker 9 (22:04):
Yeah, right right, exactly.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Hey, letsk, I'm sorry, go ahead, Greg, you were gonna
say something.

Speaker 9 (22:12):
No, I was just good.

Speaker 12 (22:12):
I was just gonna say when you set it up, uh,
which is more surprising or shocking? I mean, I mean
they're equally they're equally predictable that they're going to not,
of course give President Trump any credit, and then they're
gonna gleefully.

Speaker 9 (22:26):
Jump into a no King's National Rally.

Speaker 12 (22:30):
Protest and the guy, you know, he even joked when
he was in in Egypt, he said, you know this
is yeah, it's a hard peace process, and it's a process.
You know, it's not gonna end today, and it's been hard,
but it's he said, I still prefer this to having
to deal with the Democrats back home. I mean, kings
don't tend to have to deal and negotiate, do they.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
No, Yeah, he's the darn king.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
Let me ask you this, Greg in your opinion, and
I think we know the answer.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
Will this piece hold?

Speaker 12 (23:00):
Well? I'm actually more optimistic in the sense of I've
never I've never studied or seen a ceasefire and a
peace plan just go off without a hitch. And in
the case of Hamas, when you're dealing with a terrorist organization,
I didn't think that the next day they would all
just stand in the street and lay down their arms

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and say, okay, we're going to be merchants of peace.

Speaker 9 (23:24):
So I knew there was going to be some cleanup.

Speaker 12 (23:26):
And you know, unfortunately terrorists do terror, They engage in
terror acts, which is what they're what they're doing. But
the strength of Hamah like Hesbela and the Kooties. The
three terrible ages I call them, have all been weakened
to the point where I don't want to say they're
not going to be relevant anymore, but they I think

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they know they're right on the cusp of going the
way of the Hulu Houp the other two ages. I
just I think they know, and that's why they're so
desperately trying to cling because other groups, other tribes in
that area, are already trying to assert themselves. And the
good news there is some of these other ones actually

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want Hamas out because they just look at.

Speaker 9 (24:12):
What they've done to the guys the strip.

Speaker 12 (24:13):
It'd be like the three of us saying, we love
this land so much, we you know, we're gonna fight
and then we destroy it. Yeah, it's it's sort of
a backwards way, right of showing how much you value
something by just basically overseeing its destruction.

Speaker 4 (24:27):
That's exactly it might.

Speaker 5 (24:28):
Yeah, Greg, I gotta ask you this, and I may
be thinking too far into this, but it just seems
so obvious to me. So as this is going on
and we're seeing the hostages come back, and Hamas is saying, well,
we don't know where some of the bodies as some
of the deceased Hosages are. I'm thinking to myself, well,
wait a minute. Once Israel and the United States get
these hostages back, what's stopping them from completely obliterating Hamas

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and just doing whatever they want because there's no leverage.
And that's been something with Islamic terrorism, it's been a
hallmark since since the beginning, which is taking hostages and
using them as leverage. We saw that in Iran in
the Carter administration. Am I crazy to think that BB
and Donald Trumpet and Steve Witkoff as thinking to themselves,

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once we have them back, what reason do we have
to to care, frankly about whether or not Hamas lives
or dies?

Speaker 12 (25:23):
Yeah, I know I agree with you.

Speaker 9 (25:25):
I think that.

Speaker 12 (25:25):
And again to my point where Hamas, I think amasis
the writing on the wall for themselves, and I know
that they there's already some infighting in terms of leadership
within the Hamas because they're so fractured and you really,
you really have three Hamas. They're all weakened, you know.
But again it's like these little mini contagions. You do

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have some splinter groups now, and there's some real internal
battles going on, and they don't all want the same
goals anymore. So I agree. I think once that phase
is completely set, the other piece that I think is
sollion in this way. And again President Trump is getting
next to no credit on the left for this, and

(26:07):
it's something I can't imagine Obama or Biden or my goodness,
Kamala Harris, that John Kerry or anybody of that pulling
it off.

Speaker 9 (26:15):
Which is Hamas also knows.

Speaker 12 (26:17):
That unlike other times, they don't They can't just turn
to the rest of the Arab world and say, well
help us out.

Speaker 9 (26:24):
Of course you'll be against the Jews and Israel. That's
not the case.

Speaker 12 (26:27):
So I think they know that they are totally isolated.
And you remember how much criticism that President Trump got
again all of a sudden the left is they get
a rule of law seems to only apply to illegal
immigrants and to terror nations because they get all like you,
Trump can't they can't violate the sovereignty of Iranian of

(26:49):
Iranians in Iran, well after they blew up the nuclear
facility and pretty much obliterated. As you know, Iran was
like the chess piece that was taking off the board
and you can get to a different endgame when it
rams off the board, yep, and so Monz can't look
to Arian either.

Speaker 9 (27:06):
So that's why.

Speaker 12 (27:07):
I'm I'm concerned. But none of this is shocking. Piece
is never a smooth It's messy. But I think we're
much We're much closer than certainly we were before. And
I think I think the endgame is insight I really do.

Speaker 5 (27:22):
Yeah, thanks a lot, Greg, And I'm just gonna ask
you this, speaking of Iran, you know it's it's hard
to Donald Trump loves the bank shots, so to speak.
Do you think that any of this deal would have
been possible A without totally isolating Iran the way the
Trump administration the first time and now the second time
around has, and also the air strikes themselves on Iran's

(27:45):
nuclear facilities. If it were me, I would somebody asked me,
I'd say, there's no way, Uh, the hostage deal happens
A without attacking Iran's nuclear facilities and b isolating them
from the rest of the Middle East so to speak.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
I mean, I know we're talking.

Speaker 5 (28:01):
Sunni and Shia, but basically getting all of the Arab
nations together and isolating Iran has just sort of put
Hamas in a box, right.

Speaker 12 (28:10):
Yeah, no, absolutely, you're you know, it's absolutely right. And
like I said, I think it's it's taking this really
menacing chess piece of Iran. Iran has always wanted to
be the main power broker in that Middle East area.

Speaker 9 (28:22):
It's taken him pretty much right off the board.

Speaker 12 (28:24):
And once they're off the board, it opens up the
whole board to have a different endgame. That the sad
part about.

Speaker 9 (28:31):
This is it didn't have to be this way, as
you all know.

Speaker 12 (28:35):
It didn't have to be this way because instead of
putting you know, one point five billion dollars in cash
on palettes and bringing it to the Iranians of the
goodwill gesture like I'll be your friend if that's how
you want.

Speaker 13 (28:46):
To moderate palette, bring me a palette of cast to
be good.

Speaker 9 (28:52):
Yeah, I'll moderate.

Speaker 12 (28:54):
My behavior, right, instead of doing that, and then instead
of Biden just saying don't. I mean, because let's say
that when he told Hunter don't, it didn't work with Hunters.
So the idea is it didn't have to be this way.
But what Trump started, the administration started in round one,
they were able to pick up. Obviously again in this

(29:17):
time around, and to your point, isolate.

Speaker 9 (29:19):
And move him off the board.

Speaker 12 (29:21):
And then, uh, look, that area, that area respects Trump,
and they respect Trump unlike any president.

Speaker 9 (29:29):
I maybe even know more.

Speaker 12 (29:31):
Than I am sure in terms of president, but I
can't think of any of the president, possibly Reagan. But
I think in many ways they respect Trump not only
for the politics but for the business side too, So
they look at him differently than I mean Biden, My goodness,
they just looked at him as almost a non entity

(29:52):
that they could just walk all over. And Kamala Harris
would have been work. Can you imagine, I mean nothing
gainst hers can't can't change her, and she is who
she is gender wise. But it's so tough for a
woman in that area too, fairly or unfairly, because of
that world and how they view women to begin with.
And then when you get somebody wishy wash you like

(30:13):
her this, we would not have gotten to this step,
and we wouldn't have gotten here on left to take
out that Newrys facility, because then there's no more danger
in Israel, and there's certainly no threat. I mean now
the threats are empty. They can yell all they want
from caves, but we know they don't have the capacity
to do.

Speaker 9 (30:28):
Much to us.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Well, you know what I mean, it's going to be
interesting and probably sayd and awful to see what's I had.
I don't know if you saw it or heard it.
In the middle of the week, there was a report
that appeared credible that they're freaking killing each other. Now, yeah,
the executions, yeah, I guess because they think these people
cooperated with the Israelis.

Speaker 12 (30:51):
Well, look, like I said, you know this again, it
happens throughout history when you had when you had the
peace right after as positioning in World War Two to
the teeth and in areas of France, and then of course,
as you know, in VC France, you had French underground
resistance killing other Frenchmen and French that they felt that

(31:13):
either betrayed or helped the enemy. The difference here is
again how you set it up initially, And what I
was writing about this week is where is the outcry again,
where is the banging the pots and pans and yelling
we are Hamas when Hamas is killing Palestinians. So it's
almost forcing some of these protesters to truly if they're sincere,

(31:35):
pick aside, do you want to be on the side
of the Palestinians that are innocent that are getting killed,
or do you want to be on the side of
the terror group. And so my question was instead of
jubilation and victory and saying, okay, Hamas, stop, you're killing
these innocent Arabs and Palestinians that we suppose they have
been protesting for nothing.

Speaker 5 (31:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
Hey, greg Rick, we're getting ready to get out of
time here.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
But before we get out of here, I did want
to ask you what are you working on now?

Speaker 12 (32:04):
Yes, sir, well listen, we are excited. We got stoone
baby Spain, like you said in letters to the Pope,
to doc films, a bunch of awards, but we're excited.
They're on Amazon Prime and Fossome TV, which I thought
was epping awesome but apparently it turns out it's free
awesome TV app So there you go. You learned something new.
And we're working on the true crime doc film about
an incident here in South Carolina and.

Speaker 9 (32:27):
I've really sufficient suicide, So working on that.

Speaker 12 (32:30):
We get a bunch of stuff working on and a
new book about campus were out of radicalization.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
My friends. That sounds good.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Hey, really appreciate you, Greg Raby to spending some time
with us this evening.

Speaker 9 (32:42):
Yeah, my pleasure.

Speaker 12 (32:43):
Guys.

Speaker 9 (32:43):
We appreciate what you do. Keep up the good work.

Speaker 5 (32:45):
Okay, thank you.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Unfortunately we are out of time and we will be back.
We are back. Mike Allen Junior, Mike Allen Sr. In
poor Will cunning him. I wanted to ask you, Mike,
I kind of ran out of time with Greg Rabbado.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
What'd you think?

Speaker 5 (33:05):
He's great man, That's it. I don't understand how people
don't give him the credit that he deserves. I mean,
and that's how you know that somebody has trumped arrangement
syndrome as you look at him getting people in the
Middle East to stop shooting each other, and you can't
give him credit.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
I mean, that's unbelievabam.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Well, he got his picture on time, and he's not
real happy about the picture.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
It looks like he's bald. Yeah, which is amazing. They
did it on purpose, of course.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
Hey, before we move on, I did want to tell
you Greg Rabbito has a great piece on this at
www dot Greg thefilmmaker dot Com. Cries of joy around
the world. Cricket's on the left. It's amazing. It's shocking,
but not surprising. I think it's going to get real

(33:53):
ugly over there. Oh yeah, yeah, he's not going to
put up with that crapp right, trumpel backing, right.

Speaker 5 (33:59):
And well it's one of the things too, is what
what what leverage does Hamas have at this point?

Speaker 3 (34:04):
You know, I get you, hey, the number to call,
and we do have an open segment from eleven o'clock
to eleven thirty. The number to call is eight six
six six four seven seven three three seven.

Speaker 5 (34:18):
Yes, sir, Well this should make you feel a little better.
We have the decline of DEI and the military. Uh,
we found a way to get Israel and Hamas to
stop killing each other. And something else that Donald Trump
is well forgot. He managed to get a bunch of fat,
liberal white women marching in the No Kings protests. Also
he is now I forgot the purple hair. Yeah, the

(34:39):
purple hair too. Purple hair. Gender goblins. Transgender trend sharply
declining on American college campuses. It is nature is healing, folks.
It looks like the trans identification trend among young people
is starting to finally lose momentum, thank god. And as

(35:02):
we were all told, which we all knew was bull crap.
I had always asked the question, why are there so
many trans people now? But there weren't twenty years ago,
and every boff of course, oh now it's safer to
be trans, and we're now understanding that what it means
to be trans. And it was like, no, bull crap,
it was just a trend. And finally that's just born

(35:25):
right here in front of Yeah, it would laid bare,
it would certainly appear. So yeah, I mean the numbers,
I got him right in front of you here. Five
percent in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three identified
as transgender. Twenty twenty four, it is down to I think, yeah,

(35:46):
five point two. Actually I think it's down a little
bit more than that. Yes, went from six point eight
to five point two.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Yeah, you know, I mean that's not that big of
a change, but it's a change.

Speaker 5 (35:56):
And you're talking about one percent of the population. It's
a big you know what. I hey man, I don't
even know if it's one.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Person less, you know, And this whole thing, this pole,
this survey was done on the college campus with college kids,
and yeah, that makes it even more important.

Speaker 5 (36:13):
And I agree with what you said.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
I think people are just figuring out that, you know what,
God Almighty made it one of two sexes.

Speaker 4 (36:24):
That's it. Get used to it, get over it.

Speaker 5 (36:27):
Well, I think the other thing is too is it's
it's like everything else, like a reversion just back to
common sense. Like that's what it felt like that we
were living from like twenty twenty to twenty twenty four.
We were living in this weird experimental acid trip that
we finally now just woke it.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
Like only in that insane.

Speaker 5 (36:47):
World do you have you know, people dressed up as
in you know, people identifying as trans standing up for
radical Islamic terrorists like Hamas, Like that's what's just unbelievable.
It's like trans people for Palestine. Yeah, it's just unreal.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
You didn't see any I'm going over there because they
would not be in this world very long.

Speaker 5 (37:08):
No, no, they wouldn't be long for this world. And
that's what's again, like so frustrating is the clown world
that we were living in where it's like wait a minute,
wait a minute, wait a minute, like hang on one second,
like do you see chickens backing KFC? Like it's just
it's just it's I mean, it really is. It's a
good analogy. It's just yeah, it makes no sense, it's

(37:29):
a good analogy.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Hey, we got to take a break. Button we get
back open lines once again. Eight six six six four
seven seven three three seven. Mike Allen Senior Junior in
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Speaker 3 (38:44):
No Bill Cunningham. Tonight, Mike Allen, Mike Allen Jr. Sitting
in for the Great American. Mike As I think, you know,
President Trump, the Department of Justice and the FBI are
really cracking down on terrorist groups, and it looks like
they got Antifa in their sites. Finally, it couldn't be
any better than that. So, I mean, just your thoughts

(39:07):
on it.

Speaker 5 (39:07):
It just sort of goes to this feeling whether it's
you know, like the folks we were talking about the
upper middle class, you know, upper class white liberals all
the way down to the disgusting dirty pos's that are
called themselves Antifa. That the one thing that links a

(39:28):
guy who lives in his mom's basement and pretends to
be a gangster in Antifa and his actual liberal mom
who supports him is that, for some reason, they think
that rules just do not apply to them. Ye like,
it's I mean, and why would they? I mean, if
you stop and think about it. In twenty twenty, Antifa
just burned entire cities to the ground and literally nothing happened.

(39:53):
No con why else, I mean, why would anybody be
surprised that they think they could just do whatever they want.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
I'll tell you what. Yesterday on my Saturday show, I
had a guess. Her name is Janis Heisel.

Speaker 4 (40:06):
Great. She's with the Epoch Times.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
And let me just say this, if you haven't checked
out the Epoch Times yet, you really should. But at
any rate, she had two great articles about Antifa. One
of the things that comes through to me in those stories,
and I know you read them too, Mike.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
We don't know enough about Antifa.

Speaker 5 (40:25):
No, no, And that's the thing is is that's kind
of how they defend themselves or their supporters sort of
defend themselves, or they're like, well, it's not a real organization,
you know what I mean. It's like, well, wait a minute,
they seem to be organized plenty when there's a fire
to start.

Speaker 4 (40:38):
You know what I mean. Hey, let's go to the calls.
Edward in Tampa Bay is with us. Hey, Edward, how
you doing.

Speaker 7 (40:46):
Hey?

Speaker 15 (40:46):
It gets to in from you again.

Speaker 9 (40:47):
It's been a while.

Speaker 4 (40:48):
Yea, I know, I know what you got for us.

Speaker 15 (40:50):
Yeah, well, a couple of things. And I'll get into
ven Andzuela if I get a chance through here. Please
I speak Spanish and I've been watching the Spanish news
to Some of the pictures from the military are great,
but just kind of no teams date even here in
Tampball Bay. You know, I don't see a lot of

(41:11):
I don't like to get into racier, but yeah, it's
just I think it's pretty much around the country the
majority these And I mentioned this I think Friday that
a lot of these not to say that there'sn't any
black and brown people, you know, protesting, but a lot
of this I see a lot of you know, white
people on this. I mean, I tell people, you know
when they call the radio stations too, because I call

(41:35):
a lot of national and locals. I mean, you know,
it's almost the same thing. It's almost like people over
forty you know, I don't see too many. I know
they're on social media on there. But giving back to
Venezuela here, I was talking to mister Morris and somebody else,
and mister Morris was saying on this radio show that
he doesn't think, you know, President Trump is going to

(42:00):
green light some kind of operation here. But I'm hoping
that's different because I think if it's any other administration, uh,
they're not gonna do anything. And we're just gonna have
these care bands coming back through the dare in past.
I think we have what do we have, like ten

(42:20):
thousand troops or something like that.

Speaker 5 (42:22):
Yeah, this is the right moment to do it.

Speaker 15 (42:26):
Yeah, I'd be satisfied just removing mister Maduro and you know,
giving this lady Machada a chance and or Mystic Gonzales
as far as the chance to you know, have the
country going a better direction.

Speaker 5 (42:43):
Than it is going right now.

Speaker 9 (42:45):
So hopefully that's going to be the case. It'd be great, and.

Speaker 15 (42:49):
We are not going there to get oil like some
of the lefties things, We're going there like resources. We're
gonna get there and make that country uh stable, and
it's going to be like a normal South American country.
We're not gonna have to worry about hearing it and
then use as far as narco terrorism or you look,

(43:09):
immigration going through a dren pass. So yeah, let's go
right now before we have the chance in his careers.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
All right, Hey, Edward, I'm gonna let you go and
we're going to answer your questions.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
Yeah, thank you for the call. Here's my thing.

Speaker 5 (43:24):
I mean, I just regime change always terrifies me, you
know what I mean. But now look, if it doesn't
involve American boots on the ground, find now something that
people don't really it feels like it hasn't been reported on.
It is apparently the beginning of the Trump administration. Nicholas
Maduro reached out to the Trump administration and basically said,
you can have a bunch of our oil reserves if

(43:46):
you help us and you don't overthrow me, which Donald
Trump declined. That should tell you something, and I think
it's that Donald Trump knows Maduro is on the ropes
without any help.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
From the American no question. Yeah, Hey, let's go back
to the calls. Ray in Cincinnati. Hey, Ray, how you
doing that?

Speaker 16 (44:04):
It's all right on a legal question. I did not
say something to the screener. I'd love to talk to
you about the long term aspects of Governor Waller or
Governor Pritzker getting treated like Governor Wallace by Ike. The
other real reason I was calling is on the Gaza strip.

(44:25):
They started this at the very beginning, right after the
October seventh thing, and they backed off because they figured
out intelligence wise that the hostages were in the tunnels.
They've got all the living ones. They're going to really.

Speaker 17 (44:40):
Really tick off a lot of Jews over the dead ones.
But all they would have to do is established two
beachheads and you know those fire pumps that they show
on Fleet Week in New York Harbor. All they got
to do is get two of those half days by
Mike out.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
I've never heard that one. But you know what, on
the face of it, it makes sense. But who in
the right mind would have thought that they would not
violate it. It wasn't a matter. If it's only a
matter when these are most the most and how these
are the most despicable people that I have ever heard

(45:24):
about in my lifetime. And I'm no Spring Chicken. Yeah yeah,
these people are just disgusting.

Speaker 16 (45:32):
And you might have some Islamic audience, so I don't
want to be that way. But if you look up
on a simple whether it's an AI or an old
fashioned search engine other than Google, what made your religion
supports murder? Only one Islam?

Speaker 4 (45:50):
Yep?

Speaker 16 (45:50):
And when when they waterboarded the guy that created and
orchestrated and designed the towers coming down? Yeah, Pakistan sold
him to the United States for five million bucks.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
Yep.

Speaker 16 (46:05):
He was waterboarded famously with the younger and Cheney had
a big stink. And they said after a hundred and
sixty eight times, he finally turned really nice. And the
FBI guys actually complimented and said he turned really chatty.
He was actually a very polite person.

Speaker 12 (46:25):
Uh.

Speaker 16 (46:26):
They said that The thing was they kept asking him.
All they kept hitting him with is where's the next hit?
What's coming next?

Speaker 6 (46:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (46:35):
And finally they got bordered out.

Speaker 9 (46:39):
The whole business.

Speaker 16 (46:41):
And we're going to steal every piece of property that
you own.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
I hear you.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
I know what you're saying. You know, I like his
idea about the water and the tunnels. Yeah, I don't
know about some of the other stuff. Yeah I didn't
catch the end of it. But but yeah, I mean
these these these tunnels need to be blown to hell,
them back and then filled with concrete. It there is
no moderating people that rape children, murder old women, and

(47:09):
just kill civilians.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
That's the thing that it's so hard for me to
get my brain around, is why in God's name would
you show these people it's astonished any mercy. And you
got these people on the college campus, which is the
cesspool of higher education, you know, protesting it and go

(47:34):
into back form.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
I don't get it, man, It's scary.

Speaker 5 (47:37):
And then it comes full circle is they scream, you know,
free Palestine, Donald Trump, freeze Palestine, and they still I
mean it, it doesn't matter. I mean they reveal their
their non that just no values that they have when
they say that stuff. Because truly like even people dying

(47:58):
just to make their political points, it's just they don't care.
I mean, they don't care. I don't like Vladimir Putins,
so people should continue to die in Ukraine. I don't
like Donald Trump, so even though he got peace in
the Middle East. I'm not gonna, you know, give him
credit for it. They the only principles they have are
f Donald Trump. I mean, that's the time, and you

(48:19):
know what, that ain't gonna get him very fun. No,
I mean, look a they're about to get for the
first time in almost modern political history, the party in
power might actually keep the House in the Senate.

Speaker 3 (48:30):
That should tell everything. You know, we were talking about
that on my Saturday show. And there aren't a lot
of people that have have faith in that.

Speaker 4 (48:39):
I kind of do.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
And obviously the tradition is the party in power with
the presidency lose seats.

Speaker 4 (48:47):
I ain't so sure about it.

Speaker 5 (48:48):
The Democrats are about they're put it to there's venereal
diseases that are poll better than congressional Democrats at this point.
I mean, they're they're I'm not gonna lie to you.
I don't think they're gonna gain a seat.

Speaker 4 (48:59):
Well, we'll see, we shall see. Hey, we got to
take a break, but we'll be back.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
Mike Allen Junior Mike Allen in for Willie Cunningham.

Speaker 5 (49:12):
We are back.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
Mike Allen Senior, Mike Allen Jr.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
In For the Great American Willy Cunningham on a Sunday night.

Speaker 4 (49:21):
Hey, let's talk to Dale in Iowa.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Do it?

Speaker 4 (49:25):
Hey? Dale, how you doing.

Speaker 10 (49:28):
Good? I'm glad to hear you too, are as well?

Speaker 4 (49:30):
Thank you?

Speaker 10 (49:31):
All right? Yeah, I wanted to passlong. You mentioned Epop
times they interviewed Andy No, and he really laid out
details about Antifa that everybody ought to.

Speaker 4 (49:42):
Hear he did.

Speaker 10 (49:46):
Yeah, that was a good one. We worried about Hamas.
But you know, Tamala Harrison mentioned the protesting it should
continue and it shouldn't stop. And recently the interview I heard,
she said that, you know, when you got a barrier
to get from one side of the barrier, there's going
to be blood. And that is just the wrong thing

(50:06):
to be saying.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
Right now, let me ask you something, Dale. Can you
imagine her trying to take on what President Trump has
taken on successfully? Number one, she wouldn't do it. Number Two,
if she did, be a.

Speaker 10 (50:20):
Disaster, she wouldn't even recognize the problems that needed to
be done.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
No, No, you're right about even.

Speaker 10 (50:28):
Yeah, she couldn't even find the border. I was shot
to a little earlier. The guy called in about the pennies,
and I think I might start killing some copper to
press them out if they don't have any for twenty
five yet. But I don't think. I don't think we
realize how it impacts the freedom of speech in America.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
Yeah, yeah, I thought I read, Oh yeah, that cost
a penny and a half to make the darn things.

Speaker 10 (50:55):
I mean, it's more expensive than to put them out.
But though the way it impacts the freemiums each is
before long, I'm not gonna get my two cents work.

Speaker 4 (51:04):
That's good. That is good. I'm a little slow. Mike
got it before I did. Well, listen, we.

Speaker 10 (51:11):
Finally wanted to say, I got a new question. I'm sorry.
I called somebody about the No Kings at rally because
they were saying, oh, the kids are being zip tied,
and I said, you really need to study this if
you're going to claim those things. And I wanted them
to listen to me. But facts that I believe they
absolutely don't agree to. And the woman who was a white, liberal,

(51:32):
well educated person just became an unhim screen then yeah,
and I just thought, yeah, it is just not worth it.
I mean it might have been because I told her
I had a sign she could take along and it
was long lived the king and she didn't like that.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
That's great, they'll really appreciate it. Thank you.

Speaker 5 (51:52):
Let's talk to Jack in California. Hey, Jack, how you doing, Hi?

Speaker 13 (51:59):
Doing great?

Speaker 5 (52:00):
What you got for us?

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Well?

Speaker 13 (52:03):
I don't think that the United States has ever engaged
in regime change and had anything good come of it. Agree,
a lot of a lot of times they failed to
change the regime, regime, and then the regime becomes really nasty.

Speaker 5 (52:20):
Yep.

Speaker 13 (52:20):
And when they do change the regime, somebody worse comes
along behind it.

Speaker 4 (52:26):
Yep, no question. It's a risky composition.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
And I think in Vietnam, one of the presidents of
Vietnam early on, uh, there's some speculation that the CIA
made it take made would take care in him.

Speaker 4 (52:41):
But yeah, no good results.

Speaker 13 (52:43):
Oh, there was no speculation about it.

Speaker 5 (52:45):
It was proven. It was a no dendm. Yeah. His
name was Escaping. He's always wearing those white silk suits. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We just it's like people like John Bolton. They go
on adventures with other people's kids, other people's mind, other
people's treasure, and it doesn't apply to them, so they
can say twenty years later they don't regret it.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
I don't have a problem with the morality of it.
It's just it doesn't work.

Speaker 5 (53:10):
No, it doesn't work, and you just get people killed
and nothing good comes of it.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
Hey, let's talk to Ted in Arizona.

Speaker 5 (53:18):
Hey, Ted, good, Even, gentlemen, how are you doing. I'm
fine on Ted. How about you?

Speaker 9 (53:23):
You were you pretty good?

Speaker 18 (53:24):
You were just discussing Bolton and his little book. Oh yeah,
one of the fairy tales.

Speaker 5 (53:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (53:33):
I believe he should be tried by a military tribeutal
because of the ramifications of what he leaked out.

Speaker 5 (53:39):
Yeah. Are you talking about the Iranian hack?

Speaker 18 (53:45):
The new just the new thing he's writing in the book?

Speaker 5 (53:48):
Yeah, about what he think and what I think his
book in and of itself is him leaking classified information?

Speaker 4 (53:57):
Yeah? I couldn't agree more.

Speaker 5 (54:00):
Well, the only the people in the.

Speaker 9 (54:04):
Put before Fire squad for less.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Here's the thing, though, you did mention that you thought
he should be tried in a military tribunal, but he can't.
If he's not a member of the service, then you
can't do that. But federal court's good enough. I mean
you can you can take care of him there.

Speaker 18 (54:24):
Well, if he was operating with secrets which were military
secrets he pulled out of those files and leaked and
used to write his book. He can on the military code.
He tried in a military court under trees in US acts,

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it can be done.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
Yeah, you know, you know, I don't know that that's accurate,
but it doesn't matter. I mean, they can get him
one way or the other. And we're going to be
talking to a legal expert right after this segment about
just that. Yeah, so well, yeah, I guess we'll have
to see on that. But I don't think he's right.
I spent some time in the Jang Corps and I've

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never heard of a civilian.

Speaker 5 (55:10):
I don't care as long as he's prosecuted. I could
care less. I could care less. And frankly, I'm gonna
you know, you know me, when when is Brennan and Clapper?

Speaker 6 (55:18):
What?

Speaker 5 (55:19):
I mean that those are the two more than Komy,
more than Bolton. Brennan and Clapper are the ones that
need to be indicted for the Russian nonsense.

Speaker 4 (55:26):
What have you heard about that?

Speaker 5 (55:28):
Nothing? I mean, I know it's coming. I know it's coming.
But you know, in typical me, you know how patient
us Allen's are. Oh yeah, I want I want purple
walks and mode shots.

Speaker 4 (55:36):
Man, No, I get you. I get I think a
lot of people feel that way. Yeah, because what's to
stop them from doing it again? You know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (55:44):
When there's no concert and that's what we've talked about.
What's to stop them Antifa from burning down another building?
You know, what's to stop the d o J and
the intelligence agencies to rig another election? Unless there's heads
on stakes, figurative heads on steaks, so to speak.

Speaker 4 (55:58):
Let me ask you what what jurisdiction is that? Is
that going to be in DC for Bolton? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (56:03):
I imagine, But that's the weird So they could probably
depends on where he lives. I think some of it,
you know, this is with where the crime took place.
You could make the argument that the crimes took place
either at the White House or in his house. So
it depends on if he's like one of those typical
DC people that lives in Virginia or something, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
I'm just thinking about potential jury pool. I yes, one
as bad as what the what did Trump say?

Speaker 5 (56:26):
Regardless of the verdict, the processes, the punishment, But some
of this stuff, you would hope that you'd have enough
faith in the American jury to where this stuff is
just it is what it is, you.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
Know, well, you know jury's can be Yeah, I know,
we know better than anybody. Jis too, you know, yeah.
I mean, and you got the thing to what you said.

Speaker 5 (56:46):
The process is the punishment, and his lawyers were not
supposed to think that right.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
Having said that, taken off the lawyer at and getting
on these citizens now oh.

Speaker 5 (56:57):
Yeah, hell yeah, ball all over of them, Donald Trump,
do you go on with your bad So we got
to take a break.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
But when we get back, speaking of legal experts, we're
going to be talking to Stephen Gooden about just what
we've been talking about, Bolton indictment and some other things.
We'll do that when we get back. Mike Allen Senior,
Mike Allen Jr.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
In For William.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
Hey, we're back, Mike Allen, Mike Allen Jr. In For
the great American Willie Cunningham. Well, we've been talking about
it all night. A federal grand jury in Maryland incited
John Bolton on eight on eight count of eight counts
of transmitting national defense information and ten counts of retaining

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such information. And of course the left and all their
fellow travelers in the legacy media media immediately screamed that
it was nothing but payback for what was done to
President Trump. But many legal commentators, Jonathan Turley being one
of them, they're distinguishing this indictment, Mike, from the Komy

(58:12):
and Latsia James indictments, and what they're saying is these
charges are justified.

Speaker 5 (58:18):
And very provable.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
Well, here tonight is our legal commentator Steve Gooden to
talk about it. Steve is a former federal prosecutor, former
military prosecutor, and is current He's currently a partner in
the very respected law firm of Porter Right, where he
handles complicated criminal and civil matters. Steve, thanks for joining

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us tonight.

Speaker 19 (58:42):
Now it's my honor and privilege, Mike and Mike.

Speaker 5 (58:45):
Okay, thank you, sir.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
Hey, just tell us right off the bat, your thoughts
on the Bolton indictment. I'm sure you've read it. Just
your thoughts in general, and then we'll probably have some specifics.

Speaker 19 (58:56):
Oh well, back when I was in the Army, I
actually actually prosecuted one of these cases, one of these
classified document transmittal cases, and I think John Bolton's yeah,
sure did back in two thousand and nine, and I
think John Bolton's big problem here is that he did it.
Reading the indictment, it sounds like the evidence is pretty overwhelming.

Speaker 10 (59:18):
You know.

Speaker 19 (59:19):
Basically, he was trying to sell a book about his
time in the Trump White House during the first term,
and it looks as though they have him emailing to
his wife and daughter a variety of classified information that
he was hoping to use in the book, which he
ultimately did sell and publish in twenty twenty. So they've

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got the emails, there's clearly classified information there. His defense,
I guess, being well, it's just my wife and daughter.
But having prosecuted these in the past, it doesn't matter
if you send these things to someone who doesn't have
the property security clearance. It's pretty much a per se
violation of the law. It also looks as that they've

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been investigating him since at late at least twenty twenty one,
which means even the Biden Justice Department was looking at this.
So does Trump really I'm sure is he relishing this.
I'm I'm no psychologist, but probably almost definitely. But it
looks as though they do have a pretty good case here.
This has been something that has been in the works

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here for several years under two different justice departments. So
I think he's got a real problem here.

Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
You know, Mike, he really loves John Bolton. It's one here.

Speaker 5 (01:00:36):
Oh yeah, the real crime is the mustache. That's the
real issue here. But anyway, Steve, to your point, that's
something that I've been quick to point out to people
that this sort of started under the Biden administration. It
seems like John Bolton doesn't have any friends anywhere, and

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it doesn't surprise me. But I guess, you know, people
are always concerned, especially in that area of the country,
about juries about whether or not anybody could get a conviction,
you know, from the Trump DJ against anyone, you know,
especially somebody like John Bolton or excuse me, James Comey.
Do you think that that might be a little bit
different here, a because it seems like the evidence is

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really overwhelming and b that this is sort of a bye.
I hate to use the term bipartisan, but I mean
it seems like maybe the only thing Republicans that Democrats
in DC can agree on is they think John Polton
should have been indicted.

Speaker 19 (01:01:34):
Well, well, I'm with you on the mustache.

Speaker 5 (01:01:36):
So that's always been a mystery to me.

Speaker 19 (01:01:37):
And I'm sure, I'm sure that bothered bug the hell
out of Trump too. I think the problem he's going
to have is, you know, will be the jury instructions.
I mean, it's just close to just pure you know,
per se liability is anything your strict liability is a
criminal case can get a jury the way they would
be instructed if this were to go to trial, would

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it would be pretty tough.

Speaker 5 (01:02:01):
And most of.

Speaker 19 (01:02:01):
These when they really do have the goods, end up
at a plea bargain. And I mean the case I
handled it was actually very similar. It was a high
ranking member of the eighteenth Airborne who had been involved
in killing a high ranking Al Qaeda terrorist in Iraq,
and he had drone footage and where he was piloting

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the drone. So he comes back home and he really
wanted to show everybody this. So he goes to a
party off post at Fort Bragg, North Carolina and showed
the drone footage to his neighbors and friends, all of
whom were civilians. And then you know, word gets out, God,
you should go over to Colonel so and So's house.

Speaker 5 (01:02:41):
He's got this cool stuff.

Speaker 19 (01:02:43):
Well, it was all classified still, so you know, he
ended up doing six months and fort levenworth over that
as part of a plea. And again the issue being
like did he really hurt anybody or really compromise national security?
Probably not, But if you're a high ranking official, you
have to set an example, and John Bolt will certainly that,

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even though on the civilian side, and if you're expecting
you know, rank and file service members and enlisted personnel
to strictly adhere to, you know, the handling of classified documents,
set rules, then you have to set that example at
the very top. And that's why the rules are so
harsh and so tough and so unforgiving. So I predicted

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ultimately he's going to have to take a plea here
unless there's some piece of this that we don't know publicly.
I think the emails are going to be awfully hard
to explain. So yeah, I don't see a way around it.
So I kind of doubt this will ever see a jury.
But if it were to the jury, instructions are really
tough for the defendant.

Speaker 4 (01:03:44):
Hey, let me ask you this.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
I mean, just following up on that, if in fact
it does go to trial, it was the federal grand
jury in Maryland. Now, would you consider that better or
worse for the defendant than Washington d C.

Speaker 5 (01:04:01):
It's really probably a bit worse.

Speaker 19 (01:04:03):
I mean, DC is probably the trying to think of
a better word than to say, the scouriest place to
try a criminal case, but it really is. I mean,
the Federal Circuit of District of Columbia. You know, you
have an extraordinarily educated liberal jury pool. You know, it's
one of the most it's not a state, but it's
one of the most liberal jurisdictions in the country.

Speaker 6 (01:04:25):
So, you know, I think.

Speaker 19 (01:04:26):
Actually in Maryland, you know, it's probably more likely to
be a touch more pro prosecution. You're going to get
more average, kind of working people in the jury pool there,
So that's that's also not a good development for John Bolden.

Speaker 5 (01:04:42):
Yeah, Steven, I guess it's kind of a twofold question.
I know, you said there probably won't be a trial,
which I think just screams, you know, about the strength
of the government's case. Yeah, but I guess my question
would be, you know, I would have loved to have
seen it used at trial or maybe it a sentencing,
to just show the brazenness of all of the clips

(01:05:03):
of him lecturing about the classified document stuff and him
taking shots at Donald Trump. I mean, it's one of
these things where I if I were a judge, I
would think that that's you know, aggravating to say the least.
That I mean we're talking to this is strict reliability
thing where there's not necessarily an intent issue. But you know,
it just seems to me that that just that makes

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it all the all the worst that he did this.

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
Do you I mean, would that be able to judge
let that in as evidence?

Speaker 12 (01:05:31):
Oh?

Speaker 19 (01:05:31):
Absolutely, I mean, I mean, you know, in the federal system,
they really do focus on any evidence it shows that
you understood the rightfulness of the conduct. And here's the
guy out there. You know, when Donald Trump was indicted,
he went on Bolton went on kind of a revenge
tour and in the media really wagging his finger at
Trump for this. And of course those cases were all

(01:05:52):
thrown out because it turned out the special prosecutor wasn't
even properly appointed.

Speaker 6 (01:05:57):
Yeah, so you know, those cays.

Speaker 11 (01:05:59):
Is all what a a.

Speaker 19 (01:06:01):
You know, and they were very different, distinguishable and other
in other ways. But I mean, he clearly understood the law.
He just didn't think it applied to him. So yeah,
that's that. Even if he takes a plea, I would
imagine a lot of those commentaries he did on TV
are going to resurface in the sentencing.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
You know what, I think he ought to be packing
his toothbrush from everything that I'm here, not just from you,
Steve Gooden, but other attorneys as well. Let me ask
you this here, and a lot of people say he's
going to invoke the everyone else is doing it defense.

Speaker 4 (01:06:36):
That ain't gonna fly, right.

Speaker 19 (01:06:40):
No, that doesn't really work here, I think from what
I can tell, I mean, what his lawyers have sort
of like you know, positioned so far as I guess
when this Robert hur who was investigating Biden, who did
something very similar and ended up not indicting him, I
think they're going to try to go to that standard.
I mean, basically, what her found was after interviewing Biden

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that they really couldn't make a case because Biden's mental
state was such that they couldn't prove that he understood it.
You know, you know there's the line of a forgetful
older man or whatever the line was they used in
their report. I mean that and Bolton here is seventy six.
But he seems sharp as a deck and he was
sharp enough to go out and talk about it on
the media when Trump got in trouble. So I don't

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think that goes anywhere. I think that's really all they've
got here, and everybody that does it thing I mean
they charged. I mean they've charged a number of folks,
Democrats and Republicans with this all the way back to
like a Sandy Berger during the Clinton years was the
first one recent member back in the nineties. So there
really is a history a bipartison, you know, people being

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charged out of multiple administrations.

Speaker 5 (01:07:44):
I don't think.

Speaker 19 (01:07:45):
Everybody does it here is going to go anywhere. Really,
the only people they got to pass Biden got the pass.
We still don't understand what happened with Hillary and her emails.
But you know, ironically Komy probably was the one who
leaked that because I think he felt, you know, they
probably some people at the FBI felt that it was
unjust that she wasn't prosecuted. But I don't think he'd

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gets some anywhere here.

Speaker 5 (01:08:08):
See real real quick. I feel like this should have
been the obvious first question. But how much time is
he looking at.

Speaker 19 (01:08:16):
You know typically and again I looked at it and
I believe it's twenty years per count. Oh god, now
they're now, they're very rarely, you know, consecutively. You know,
he's very rarely a consecutive sentence, I mean here, but
it'll be seventy six years old, assuming that it doesn't
go to trial or is dealt with it any meaningful way,
for the next eighteen months, when he could be pushing

(01:08:37):
eighty years old. So really, any jail time could conceivably
be a life sentence now on a plea barga and
sometimes you.

Speaker 5 (01:08:45):
Know, people on these get it.

Speaker 19 (01:08:46):
People get as little as you know, a year to
six months, as long as they accept the wrongfulness of
their conduct. So yeah, in theory, he could go away
for the rest of his life, even on one count.
You know when they charge it per piece of information.
And so really, really what it was was just a
series of emails as I understand it, But there were
multiple pieces of classified information in those emails, each one

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up to twenty years in prison.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
Let me ask you this one of the things that
people are saying, and this is what the experts, part
of what the experts are hanging their hat on. This
thing went through the normal Department of Justice team investigating it,
and you know, and like somebody pointed out, it started
in the Biden administration.

Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
That's not going to go anywhere either.

Speaker 6 (01:09:31):
Is it.

Speaker 19 (01:09:34):
Right. I mean, you know this, I mean there are
some arguments I think around this Latitia James and James
Comy indictments, where you know, these were people that came
in with Trump, you know, Trump two point zero here
in January, and those cases didn't go through the regular
what they call career prosecutor or you know, the civil

(01:09:55):
servant hatjack prosecutor process. This one did, I mean the
Bolton and was something that went through both the political
people looked at it, you know, the higher level appointees
and in the rank and file civil servant prosecutors, and
both came to the same conclusion as I understand it
was that there was a case that could be made here.
So this is just a different a different beast. And again,

(01:10:18):
you know, sometimes these things are as simple, like in
the case I prosecuted, it was as simple as the
guy downloading the classified document to putting it in a
thumb drive and taking it, you know, putting it in
his pocket and taking it home. And once he got
off base and showed it to people who were not
you know, did not have security clearances that you know,
our case was made here. I mean, they've got the

(01:10:39):
emails with him sending them to civilian email addresses and
to be used in a book, which he ultimately sold
and made money from. Uh So, you know, I don't
think any of that's really going to hold any water here.
I mean, at the end of the day, they you know,
he if indeed they can prove that there were classified
information in those emails and they went to people without

(01:11:00):
clear it's it's a team set match, yep.

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
One can only hope. Hey, Unfortunately, Steve, we're out of time.
But boy, this has been really informative and I'm sure
our listeners appreciate it.

Speaker 19 (01:11:10):
I know we do, absolutely, gentlemen, you have a good
evening day, Okay you two.

Speaker 5 (01:11:16):
Thanks?

Speaker 4 (01:11:17):
Thanks Steve.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
Yeah, I'll tell you what and now he's the next
the you know, the the otherwise. I heard the legal
experts saying that, you know, this ain't really law fare.

Speaker 4 (01:11:28):
Yeah, this is substance.

Speaker 12 (01:11:29):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:11:29):
This reminds me of like when you know, OJ beats
the murder charge, but twenty years later, it's hammered. That's
what this reminded me, Like he should go to prison
for the Iraq stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:11:38):
But if this is what it takes, fine by me.

Speaker 5 (01:11:40):
Brother.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
Hey, listen, we got to take a break here, but
I wanted to let everyone know. We have an open segment,
no guess from eleven thirty to midnight eight six six
six four seven seven three three seven Mike Allen, Mike
Allen Junior in for Willie.

Speaker 5 (01:12:07):
They were back Mike Allen Junior Mike Allen Sr. In
for the Great American Willie Cunningham Live on Sunday Night. God,
I feel like we've talked about absolutely everything that I
uh from from Israel and Palestine to uh purple haired
gender goblins, to uh liberal white women that feel appointed

(01:12:31):
to speak for minorities, and uh what else.

Speaker 4 (01:12:34):
Don't forget the nose rings. Oh yeah, the nose rings too.

Speaker 5 (01:12:38):
And then after this we'll be talking to Daniel Greenfield
about the the hilarity in Barack Obama actually accusing Donald
Trump of politicizing the military, Like the guy who forced
DEI and climate change stuff into the military is actually
talking about It's It's like pot yeah, yeah, I have

(01:12:58):
I imagine that it will sound something like that's the pot
calling the kettle black. But in this segment, we're going
to talk about a report I sent you earlier today. Man,
that's saying that it's quote deeply concerning Midwest University initiative
pushing far left K through twelve lesson plans, and I
think deeply concerning is the understatement of the century. A

(01:13:21):
new report from a leading advocacy group alleges at a
race and Gender Center at the University of Minnesota, shocking,
a state university where Tim Walls is the governor, supplying
K through twelve teachers with ethnic study lessons that promote
a variety of left wing causes shocking, including defunding the police,
black Lives Matter, and the dangers of white supremacy and

(01:13:44):
quote settler colonialism. Dad, this is why, and I've said
it since you know COVID, the most dangerous organizations in
the United States of America are not Antifa. They are
one thousand percent teachers unions because they are the ones
that push this and indoctrinate entire generations of children.

Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
You know, and AFT American Federation. I have never and
what's the woman's name that.

Speaker 5 (01:14:11):
She looks like it's I don't know, but she looks
like Gary shan Randy Weiningardner aka Gary Shanling. She looks
I mean, you can be honest, that might be one
of my best I think that is.

Speaker 4 (01:14:23):
I have you know how I watch this stuff just
like you.

Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
I have never heard that woman in any public comment
she has made that says anything about the students. You
know that crappy test s wares. It's always political and
it's always far left.

Speaker 5 (01:14:40):
Yeah, and it's us us, us, me, me, me, and
now let me just and I'm sorry. And I don't
care how much flak I take for this. Any job
where you're literally work six to eight hours a day
and then have three months to sit on your ass,
you shouldn't even be in a union. I mean that
that's that's hard calling that a job, to be totally honest,
and I don't care who likes it. But what's unreal

(01:15:01):
is this thing describes assignments on students to create quote
protest art for a quote cause that the students choose,
and the students are given suggestions including creating what is
this creating a liberatory I don't know what that means
liberatory art meant to make people feel safe in spaces
they do not already feel safe or welcoming. You know

(01:15:23):
a space where people don't feel safe? Conservatives and libertarians
on college campuses?

Speaker 4 (01:15:28):
How about that one?

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
Hey, we got to take a break, But Mike, you
want to tell them what we got when we come up.

Speaker 5 (01:15:33):
Coming up, we're gonna be talking to Daniel Greenfield about
Barack Obama politicizing the military.

Speaker 4 (01:15:39):
Right when you will be back? Mike Allen Senior, Mike
Allen Jr.

Speaker 11 (01:15:43):
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Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
We're gonna take some calls here, but I just want
to ask you a question first, Mike, why are we
going to get our marcoas?

Speaker 5 (01:16:48):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:16:49):
I'm afraid of any way I answer that question? You know, WILLI?

Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
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Speaker 5 (01:17:03):
To do this.

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
All right, let's go to the phones. Let's talk to
Nicholas in Michigan. Hey, Nicholas, how you doing?

Speaker 10 (01:17:10):
Hey?

Speaker 6 (01:17:10):
Great? I really thought the previous guest was terrific because
for four bucks via Goodwill, I picked up a copy
of John Bolton's book.

Speaker 5 (01:17:21):
Oh really, four bucks, and I've read it. Good dah.

Speaker 6 (01:17:24):
I'll try to make yeah, I'll try and make this
sccinct as possible to take her comments off the air.
In his epilogue to his book The Room Where It Happened,
a White House memoir, he defends the objections people already
had against him publishing it. And he does it because

(01:17:46):
he quotes from a review where he reviewed Robert Gates
memoir from twenty fourteen.

Speaker 16 (01:17:54):
You might remember that, I really do.

Speaker 6 (01:17:56):
Yeah. Yeah. He defends gabs is releasing information which was
condemned as unseemly and traders.

Speaker 4 (01:18:05):
And that's funny.

Speaker 12 (01:18:07):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (01:18:07):
So here's here, here's the Here's the kicker that kind
of underlines everything is the last page of the book.
So he quotes extensively from his Gates review, and almost
the last sentence of the quotation defending Gates is filed
by the conclusion. So they're very brief, and I'll read

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them and hope you find me intriguing his idea. He says,
except in the case of classified information not at issue here.
Adults in US politics today understand that they are always
on stage. Last sentence of the book. I stand by
these views still today. It's always it's always interesting the

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printed page. It doesn't go away. I don't know if
anyone read this book in the West. For me, I
wanted to make sure you heard that.

Speaker 5 (01:19:06):
Oh yeah, yeah, he actually waited. Don't tell anybody. Yeah,
I just waited in line to him sign all five
of them.

Speaker 4 (01:19:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:19:11):
No, it's not surprising at all.

Speaker 4 (01:19:14):
It's not surprising at all.

Speaker 5 (01:19:17):
It's it's almost like the serial killers that returned back
to the scene of the crime, you know what I mean,
they're just so arrogant that they just they can't help it.

Speaker 4 (01:19:26):
But yeah, I mean that's.

Speaker 5 (01:19:28):
And that's the thing is if you stop and think
about it, that it hasn't just been Republicans or Democrats
that have done that. I mean, it's both right and
the legislation right, right, And that's that's what.

Speaker 4 (01:19:39):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:19:39):
People talk about the uniparty and all that stuff, and
I don't know if I'd go that far, but there
is this it seems like this hubris and arrogance of
people that are at the top of the military and
the top of the intelligence agencies that were just the
rules just don't apply to them.

Speaker 3 (01:19:54):
Yeah, but it's not too late to change. Crying out
for that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:58):
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
You know what I wanted to ask Steve good in this,
but we ran out of time. I wanted to talk
to you about it. Just the disparity in two sentences
for not that similar acts but close in one's federal
court won.

Speaker 5 (01:20:13):
State court at any rate.

Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
This week we had the sentencing of one Cody make
sure I got it, Yeah, Cody Balmer. He was being
sentenced for this guy. Man he goes to Pennsylvania Governor's house. Yeah,
with I guess gasoline and everything else and lit the
darn thing off.

Speaker 4 (01:20:36):
Shapiro.

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
Yeah, yeahh Shapiro light it and lit it on fire,
and you know, they all got out safely. He got
a hefty sentence, he got what was coming to him,
which I think was twenty five to fifty years.

Speaker 5 (01:20:49):
Okay, absolutely, anti semitic pos man, big time.

Speaker 4 (01:20:54):
Big time.

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
Well then you go back to the dude that and
with respect to Justice Kavanaugh, you know, he's loaded for
bear two. He packs up, he's got all his equipment
back there, and he went up to the scene and
thank goodness, thank goodness, he said, I ain't gonna do this.
He had to turn himself in anyway. What the government

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was asking I think thirty to life. What this judge
gave this guy eight years for the attempted assassination of
Brett Kavanaugh. Eight years and she has to credit three
because he was locked up for three before the plea.

Speaker 4 (01:21:37):
Takes it down to five.

Speaker 3 (01:21:38):
In federal court, you get about forty five days a month.

Speaker 4 (01:21:42):
Good time. This sob might be out as early as
twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 5 (01:21:47):
Yeah, yeah, And what's crazy about it is, I know
it might pissed a lot of people off. It's not
the sentence so much that bothers me. It was what
was set in court during the sentencing that bothered me.

Speaker 6 (01:22:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:22:00):
And I don't know if you know this, but this
soon to be or attempted assassination goof whatever you want
to call him, is actually trans And the judge turned
the sentencing into a love fest. Instead of saying, like,
you know, it was about ten percent about you know,
how you showed up to a Supreme Court justice's house

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with the intent to kill him and his family. It
was about the love fest of how this person now
identifies as a female.

Speaker 4 (01:22:28):
And that's the point.

Speaker 5 (01:22:30):
Is their speculation now that because this person is quote
unquote identifying as trans, that the judge was easy on
the defendant because they're trans. If this judge would have
just sentenced them to eight years and moved on, I
don't think it would have been the problem. Because here's
the thing is, I think this person legitimately was having
a mental health issue. And let's go look at the

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guy who fired a shot at Donald Trump or the
guy that murdered Charlie Kirk. Don't we wish they would
have had second thoughts and told on themselves, you know
what I mean? And I get this, so it's hard
for me to be mad about the sentence. What makes
me angry is this judge going on the record for
twenty minutes essentially saying you're only getting eight years because
you're trans.

Speaker 4 (01:23:10):
Yeah, I mean that's not right.

Speaker 3 (01:23:11):
Well, and from people that apparently were in the courtroom.
She was she was more concerned with the whole transition, right,
you know, what's the Bureau of Prisons going to do
about this.

Speaker 4 (01:23:22):
Than she was. I mean, the attempted assassination of a
Supreme Court justice.

Speaker 5 (01:23:28):
I just and I respect your opinion. I just don't
think you can justify that. It's not right.

Speaker 3 (01:23:35):
As you well know, part of sentencing is deterrence, and
a lot of times, like a bank robber, drug dealer,
something like that doesn't mean anything. But in this case,
I think it does. This guy came prepared, he was
ready to go, like you just pointed out, Thank goodness,
you know, he ditched it and didn't do it.

Speaker 4 (01:23:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:23:54):
I just think it's it's a travesty in the federal system.
You can appeal the sentence, apparently they have.

Speaker 5 (01:24:01):
That's a lot of goal.

Speaker 12 (01:24:02):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:24:02):
I'm not gonna lie it.

Speaker 5 (01:24:03):
But you know what are you talking about the the
government's appealed? Are you talking about the defendants of no
no government appealing?

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (01:24:10):
That's crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:24:11):
Yeah, I know, well, no, I don't blame them, but
I think again, like the an underlying thing to all
of this is that they're saying the quiet part out loud, right,
so just bear with me here. The DSM says that
transgenderism is gender DySp you right, that it's a mental illness. Okay,
this person who's obviously mentally ill going to a Supreme

(01:24:35):
Court justice's house to kill them, calls nine to one
one and says, I'm mentally ill. I'm here thinking about
killing a Supreme Court justice. And what do you know
that mentally ill person is trans? Yeah, just it proves
the point across the board man.

Speaker 3 (01:24:52):
You know what, people that are drilling down on that mike,
they're finding out that that happens more often than not.
Now I didn't know was in the DS, which is
the diagnostic something manual. It's the bible for you know,
psychologists and psychiatry and lawyers and lawyers.

Speaker 5 (01:25:11):
Yeah. Yeah, if you're trying to get that you know,
diminished capacity or insanity defense or something like that. But yeah,
I mean, I think it proves the point that this
person is obviously mentally ill. If you're going to go
kill try to kill a Supreme Court justice. It's color
me shocked that this obviously mentally ill person happens to
be trans.

Speaker 4 (01:25:31):
Color me totally show well, and.

Speaker 3 (01:25:32):
You know you say that publicly, I guess we're doing
it all across the country. People are going to give
you some crap about it. But it was just so obvious.
It was obvious from reading the portions of the sentencing
that were public knowledge.

Speaker 4 (01:25:46):
Just an obvious all shit. Not all she cared about.
She has more concern with the trans guy. I mean,
think about it. The Supreme Court justice. In the last
few years.

Speaker 5 (01:25:58):
You know, I'd heard you and other people to talk
about quote unquote activist judges, and I didn't really think
of anything of it. You know, my god, I know
district federal court judges are really starting to get outside
of their lane. Sure, and it's again, it's just the
appointed arrogance of them, like, well, you know what, I

(01:26:18):
don't like this policy, this district court judge in random state,
I'm gonna shut down the entire administration. The fact that
one federal court judge can entirely shut down the policy
of a presidential administration, Republican or Democrat, is not what
the founders had in mind.

Speaker 3 (01:26:34):
I don't care what anybody I think. We were taught
there are three branches of government. But you know this,
and I've said it so many times. The main trait
of these people is arrogance. They don't think they're wrong
doing that right. You know, they think that judge she
thought she was right, and you know she probably went
to Starbucks with all our friends and bragging about.

Speaker 4 (01:26:56):
Yeah, it's it's the it's amazing. Everything is.

Speaker 5 (01:27:00):
You know, nobody is above the law, you know, the
attack on the rule of law until it's something that
they don't like. Yeah, you know what I mean, it's
just it's it's amazing. But I mean, truly they are.
They are children in that regard where you know, you
and I hear something we don't like, we just kind
of move on with our lives. You know, they don't
hear something that they don't like, and it's just a
complete and utter meltdown.

Speaker 7 (01:27:22):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:27:22):
It's just it's something else.

Speaker 3 (01:27:23):
I'll tell you what. You can talk about this all night. Yeah, Hey,
we gotta take a break. Mike Allen Junior Mike Allen
in for the Great American.

Speaker 5 (01:27:42):
Hey we're back, Mike Allen Jr. Mike in for the
Great American Willie Cunningham.

Speaker 4 (01:27:49):
On Sunday Night Live.

Speaker 5 (01:27:51):
We are almost round and third and headed for home, Folks,
coming up after the break though, we're gonna be talking
to Daniel Greenfield about.

Speaker 4 (01:28:00):
What are we gonna be talking about Daniel Greenfield about
about how the left not a peep out of them?

Speaker 5 (01:28:05):
Oh yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:28:06):
Or what President Trump accomplished, which is something that I've
never seen in my lifetime.

Speaker 5 (01:28:11):
Yeah, oh yeah, but something We've literally talked about everything
except for the most obvious and pressing thing, which is
the the government shutdown, which in my lifetime has just
become a normal thing. No, no, never. But what's what's
amazing to me is and this is what sort of

(01:28:33):
like shows you that that they literally stand for nothing
except for, you know, standing against Donald Trump. The Republicans
tried to pass a resolution to pay uh members of
the military, to which the Democrats just strictly just totally
shut down.

Speaker 6 (01:28:51):
I just.

Speaker 5 (01:28:53):
That should be all you need to know before you
vote in the upcoming midterms, that that is just unbelievable
and what's frustrating but also kind of enlightening, dad, or
I'm sort of encouraging. Sorry, wrong word there was seeing
Dana bash stick at to Nancy Pelosi about the continuing
resolution tell me about that, so essentially, and I wish

(01:29:15):
I should have got the clip. But Nancy Pelosi is
arguing with with Dana Bash on CNN about whether the
continuing Resolution had any any new things quote unquote, y.
It literally was, let's fund the government at the same
levels and then we'll talk about all of the gripes
and complaints that you have later on, because guess what,

(01:29:35):
you're not the majority. And she said, there's all this
new stuff in here and blah blah blah, and Dana
Bash said, no, there's not, miss Pelosi. It's this is
a clean continuing resolution. And the look on Nancy Pelosi's
face because it was probably the first time in twenty
five years she had been called out by a mention
media outlet where she literally she had no response whatsoever.

(01:29:58):
And what's what's floor heard me about this? She snapped
pretty bog Oh yeah, she lost it in hummahammed. But
away about this is that they're acting like they have
a hand to play like That's what blows me away
about it. So truly, this shutdown and people say, oh,
it's just a Republican talking point, it is the truth
that this shutdown is one thousand percent because Chuck Schumer

(01:30:22):
is afraid of losing his job too.

Speaker 4 (01:30:25):
I mean, that's you are so right.

Speaker 5 (01:30:27):
What what else could there be to gain?

Speaker 4 (01:30:29):
There's nothing else to gain because they do not.

Speaker 3 (01:30:31):
Have the votes, you know, and you talk about arrogance.
Nancy Pelosi takes the prize. Oh yeah, you know. And
you know, what's pretty good, it's kind of off topic,
but not really is how Trump's people in the Trump
administration if a reporter says something that they feel or
ask a question they feel is appropriate, inappropriate.

Speaker 4 (01:30:53):
Boom right back. And that's relatively new.

Speaker 6 (01:30:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:30:57):
Well, speaking of which, and this will shock you.

Speaker 5 (01:30:59):
Jonathan than Karl of all people of ABC on one
of the Sunday shows, I think it was Trump defaced
the nation or something like that.

Speaker 4 (01:31:11):
Or hate the press. Sorry, that's the other guy.

Speaker 5 (01:31:13):
But Jonathan Carl literally like just came out and said,
this shutdown is on the Democrats because the thing is
is even they can't create fake things to go in
the Continuing Resolution, but they've the Democrats have essentially said
we want to repeal the entire big, beautiful bill before
we pass anything remotely you know, close to opening the government,

(01:31:38):
which is just disgusting to me because again they're acting
like they have a hand to play when they have
no cards to play at all.

Speaker 3 (01:31:43):
Well, but don't you think it's really important to have
enough money to where you can pay for the medical
expenses of people who trespass.

Speaker 5 (01:31:52):
It's amazing, I mean, I.

Speaker 4 (01:31:54):
Swear to God. With these democrats, they're making a strong
case that they care more about criminals, because you know what,
a lot of them are probably good people, but damn it,
they're not.

Speaker 5 (01:32:06):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (01:32:07):
And for years, and it's centuries, two centuries at least,
that's the way we did it in this country.

Speaker 5 (01:32:14):
Yeah, And what's what's frustrating about it is is like
the common sense aspect of it is. You know, I
say this all the time, and I say it to liberals.
I go, okay, pick a country in Europe. You just
went on vacation there, right, Poland, Ireland, you know, Czechoslovakia
or whatever, and you just decide, you know what, I'm
just gonna stay here, I'm gonna overstay my visa, I'm
not gonna go home. Would you expect a free healthcare

(01:32:36):
and be for them to not throw you out? And
if people answer honestly, they'd say, well, of course, they're
not gonna give me healthcare. Of course, they're gonna throw
me out. Why is it? Why is it okay for
us to not do it? Makes no sense forsoever because
the Democrats want to go, oh, we're the good one.

Speaker 4 (01:32:53):
Well what I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:32:54):
Well, keep choosing the twenty percent of eighty twenty issues
and see and see how that's what's me away. And
I know I talk to you about this is twenty
twenty four could have been a wake up call to
the moderates like Chuck Schumer, because I still think he is.
He just cowtows to the base to go, Okay, this
radical left base has just walked us into the biggest
loss in the last twenty years. It's time for us

(01:33:17):
to This gives us the cover to kick them out,
you know what I mean? And instead they keep cowtowing
to them on these twenty percent issues and just continue
to hamorrhage support.

Speaker 3 (01:33:28):
But you look at the Poles, and I looked at
him yesterday. I don't remember exactly, you know, I think
it was fairly even. I think the Democrats were taking
a little bit more of a beating on whose fault it.

Speaker 4 (01:33:39):
Is, And that worries me about the American people. It
ain't that hard to figure.

Speaker 5 (01:33:44):
Out and this is something that as conservatives, libertarians, maga people,
we have to constantly remind ourselves. And I have to
do it too. Those polls are bolt they are, and
the reality is this. Every poll had Donald Trump beating
Kamala Harris. I know, pole had Donald Trump beating the
living crap out of Kamala Harris. No poll had Donald

(01:34:05):
Trump winning the elector or the popular vote. So look,
there's always that five that missing five points for Republicans,
I think, and that that just holds true.

Speaker 4 (01:34:15):
Hey, look, I just worry about sometimes I worry about
it the general voting public about what the hell are
you guys watching or what are you seeing?

Speaker 5 (01:34:25):
Every time I and I do that too, But every
time I go there, I remember that night in twenty
twenty four, and the numbers speak for themselves. Man, I mean,
he killed it with young folks, He killed it with
minorities that the country is waking up.

Speaker 4 (01:34:38):
Man, I'm telling you, well, I'll tell you.

Speaker 3 (01:34:41):
You mentioned it tonight, you know, the no more Kings
or no Kings stupid thing.

Speaker 5 (01:34:46):
Yeah, and you're right. There wasn't a black face to
be seen in that crowd. Why why would there be
these people? These white folks have been appointed to speak
for them. That's the thing, and that's what blows me away.
Is the height of racism is thinking somebody can't speak
for themselves. Amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:35:02):
Well, that word has been tossed around so much it
has virtually no meaning anymore. Hey, we got to take
a break. Butt when we get back. Daniel Greenfield, Mike
Allen Jr. Mike Allen in for the Great America.

Speaker 5 (01:35:25):
They We're back Sunday Night with Willie Cunningham, Mike Allen Junior,
Mike Allen Senior. Here our next guest. I'm really excited
about this. His name's Daniel Greenfield.

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
Dad.

Speaker 5 (01:35:35):
And as you know, even more than Jimmy Carter and
Bill Clinton, Barack Obama led the most radical effort to
politicize the United States military, and effort that his allies
and Senator Warrens continued under the Biden administration. Between firing
commanders and what many have called a purge and rewarding
wokeness while punishing conservative ideals when it came to promotions,

(01:35:56):
Saddling the military with leftist priorities like sked it DEI
and the always necessary green energy, Obama drastically weakened the
military by politicizing it. And in typical liberal fashion, projection
is the word. Now Barack Obama has popped up from
his hole, so to speak, to accuse Donald Trump of

(01:36:20):
you guessed it, politicizing the military. It's pretty amazing, I
guess for deploying the National Guard here to talk to
us about all. This is Daniel Greenfield. He wrote an
article about this Obama who purves the military accuses Trump
of quote politicization of the military. I can't I can't

(01:36:41):
say it without giggling a little bit. But mister Greenfield,
thank you so much for being with us.

Speaker 4 (01:36:45):
How are you?

Speaker 10 (01:36:47):
You're absolutely right?

Speaker 20 (01:36:49):
This is complete projection.

Speaker 6 (01:36:50):
That's very typical.

Speaker 4 (01:36:53):
Yeah, I couldn't agree more.

Speaker 5 (01:36:56):
So let me ask you this, mister Greenfield, if if
Barack Obama is saying that Donald Trump is politicizing the military,
what does he call his entire eight years in being
the commander in chief? Because I got to be honest,
it's pretty rich for Barack Obama to say that Donald
Trump has politicized the military.

Speaker 20 (01:37:16):
Well, you have to remember that as far as the
left goes, they're never political. So in every leftist organization,
when they're described in the news they're non partisan. Oh,
they're a good government. Non partisan groups. Conservative groups of
course are right wing. So this is how they play
this particular game. They're not politicizing anything, of course, they're reforming,

(01:37:38):
they're making it progressive. It's, of course conservatives and Republicans
who are politicizing things in US. You know, when Charlie
Kirk was assassinated, for example, Republicans are politicizing this, and
then when they shot Charlie Kirk that was not politicizing anything.

Speaker 9 (01:37:52):
Of course.

Speaker 5 (01:37:53):
Oh no, no, it's amazing. Yeah, let me ask you,
mister Greenfield.

Speaker 3 (01:37:56):
I mean, the main thing that I thought of when
talking about politicizing the military with respect to Barack Obama
and Joe Biden is the whole move on DEI, where
a lot of times it seemed like they thought DEI
was more important than readiness.

Speaker 4 (01:38:15):
Your thoughts on.

Speaker 20 (01:38:15):
That the insta grittiness was important at all? They think
the I was absolutely important. They thought that green energy
is very vital, which is why they ensure that everything
could possibly run on green energy would run on green
energy if it didn't work at all. They were quite
happy to have our entire battlefield operation depend entirely on

(01:38:37):
green fuels for them matter solar and electric power, so
they can imagine how low that electric tank is going
to do one hundred and twenty degree in Iraq. But
to them, they always would argue that real readiness value,
the most important one was diversity, and if you didn't
have a diverse military, you weren't going anywhere. They would say,
China's military not very diverse, so we're going to be

(01:38:59):
a ahead of them in diversity, which you know, I'm
sure we were ahead of them in diversity since their
military is ninety nine percent hand Chinese, we were well
behind them, and you know, everything else. But this is
exactly how they think, because they think diversity or whatever
thing they're promoting green energy is a supreme value and
it unifies all other values. This is a very Marxist
way of thinking about things, so nothing else really matters.

(01:39:21):
If you're, as Obama like to say, on the right
side of history, that's all that you know, you're going
to win at everything.

Speaker 5 (01:39:27):
Yeah, yeah, and thank you very much David Greenfield for
taking the time to talk to us. I just have
a question about some of the for lack of a
better term, disasters under the Obama and Biden administrations when
it comes to the military. I mean, we all remember
the horrific incident in Benghazi, obviously, the withdrawal from Afghanistan,

(01:39:49):
the way that Barack Obama just essentially cowtowed to the
Iranians that put American lives at risk. I don't think
it's a shocking statement to tell any American that Barack
Obama and Joe Biden were essentially incompetent commanders in chief.
But was there do you see any link or direct
I don't want to say cause, but some sort of

(01:40:11):
direct link between some of the DEI stuff, the green
energy stuff, and disasters like Benghazi or the Afghanistan withdrawal
where you can just sort of point and go, well,
there's the explanation for this.

Speaker 20 (01:40:24):
There was another arm of their wolkness, so we say so.
One of my favorite moments was when the Obama point
a chief of NASA said that his mission was Muslim
self esteem. So when they came to motor deployment, a
major factor there was making the Muslim will feel good
about it or empowering is Thamist, which is absolutely what

(01:40:47):
happened in Bengazzi. So we were told on the ground
to be extra cautious to reassure the various jihadist groups,
including those we were paying for security. Meanwhile, all about
all this is going on, the people on the ground
were denied military support because of course that would just
offend the jihadist And on top of that, Harry Clinton

(01:41:09):
goes to the grieving members of the family members who
were lost. So beingatian, says, you know, we got the
guy who made the video, the video being an offensive.

Speaker 9 (01:41:17):
Video about Mohammad.

Speaker 20 (01:41:18):
So this is how they operated on everything. You know,
it would be their political agenda's topped everything else.

Speaker 4 (01:41:26):
You know, I got to ask you too.

Speaker 3 (01:41:27):
I mean one thing I noticed, if you recall back
to September twenty twenty one, do either of you guys
remember Biden he requested the resignation of eighteen appointments to
the military advisory boards because he wanted to get the
Trump people out right, you know, cram the DEI down
everybody's throat.

Speaker 4 (01:41:50):
It was just kind of strange the way he did.

Speaker 20 (01:41:52):
That, I thought, absolutely. And another agenda, this was Biden's
big thing, was to make sure that he would be
a pointing the first woman or the first black person
to hit something. So you know you got to have
the I knew that the first you know, black commander
in chief was coming, and he would actually see communications
from the White House coming in and the body is saying, now,

(01:42:14):
I appointed the first woman.

Speaker 10 (01:42:16):
I did it.

Speaker 20 (01:42:16):
You know you smell their hair too, I'm sure yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:42:19):
Uh, mister Griffin, I mean, I don't know about you,
but every time I hear somebody in politics, your government
say well, this person is the first, this the first
that this, you know, is the first person doing it,
I immediately thinking, well, what about getting the most qualified?
Who gives a damn if they're first or not? You know,

(01:42:41):
I mean I think that's what a lot of people
are saying.

Speaker 4 (01:42:44):
Now.

Speaker 20 (01:42:45):
Yeah, well, they don't give a damn about the most qualified.
That's meritocracy, which is why supremacy, and even if it
involves a minority person, what they care about is reforming
America because they think America is a horrible, racist, sexist, homophobic,
whatever society. And thus what they're doing really is teaching
us to be less horrible people by appointing minorities two

(01:43:07):
important positions. Those people are incompetence, so much the better
because then they can really stick it to us.

Speaker 5 (01:43:13):
Oh, yeah, yeah, I couldn't agree more. And I got
one on Barack Obama, mister Greenfield that it's amazing to
me again just more projection. But in reading your piece,
obviously Barack Obama's criticizing Donald Trump and the Trump administration
for using the military to what he calls against his

(01:43:35):
quote own people, I gotta be honest with you, I
failed to see what he means by when he says
his own people. I mean, unless he means criminal gangbangers
or illegal immigrants. In your experience or just from your perspective,
you know, this used to be something that the Left
was able to do constantly, and it seemed like it
just people either ignored it or just accepted it. In

(01:43:58):
your experience or from what you can see, are more
people starting to realize that this sort of stuff is
just garbage and that it is just sort of projection.
Because for him to say Donald Trump is using the
National Guard against his own people, I mean, that's not
just a mischaracterization, that's just an outright lie. I mean,
his own people are not criminal, illegal gangbanger immigrants.

Speaker 20 (01:44:22):
I have to point out that Chicago as the largest
population of gang gang members in the country. Some sixty thousand.
I think when I last checked, they should me play
a role in Chicago politics, including the election of a
gang named Barack Obama back in the day. So it
might be his own people. It's just not you know,
power own people. And I think Americans are absolutely sick

(01:44:43):
and tired of this. You know, we were told these
lies over and over again in the year after year.
Cities were completely overrun with illegal aliens, and at this
point in the public said, you know what, we'll go with.
Donald Trump, will go with bringing in the noteary. We'll
go with all this because the alternative is so much
worse than the alternative is that Obama has to offer.

Speaker 3 (01:45:02):
I agree with that too. You know, when you're thinking
about co opting the military and using them for political purposes,
one of the things mister Greenfield, Mike, I don't know
if you remember, remember Biden's Soul of the Nation speech.
It was September twenty twenty two. It was bizarre. I
don't know if he's front.

Speaker 4 (01:45:21):
But they hit it like the red lights with red
and he's got two Marines on the side of them.
I mean, that's just blatant.

Speaker 5 (01:45:29):
But Donald Trump politicizes Oh yeah, right. Your thoughts mister
Greenfield on that, you.

Speaker 20 (01:45:35):
Know, there's a line that like the Republicans pounds, yeah,
Americans killed overseas, the complicity of the Obama's chation Republicans
pounds right right.

Speaker 5 (01:45:45):
I couldn't agree more. Just one more quick question, mister Greenfield.
Obviously that you know, the left love to say that
the adults are back in the room. Well, in reality,
you know, in twenty twenty four, the adults came back
into the room. Secretary of War Pete hag Seth and
Donald Trump are obviously taking a scalpel to a lot
of these policies. What are some things that they've rolled

(01:46:05):
back that stick out to you?

Speaker 20 (01:46:08):
The rollback of the I was very important because what
was going on in the military up until then was
not just that people are being promoted through the eye,
and that was absolutely something that was going on. And
officers at all levels are basically being told that your
number one job is di I. They were being told
everything has to be done through the terminology, the lens

(01:46:29):
of equity, the lens of the ecority means that as
your first priority, which meant a whole lot of people
who were moving through the system and were not, but
there was also a purge happening of anybody who was
not interested in going along with it, anybody who was
skeptical about it, anybody who wasn't sufficiently enthusiastic about it.
The regulations for hunting down extremism that the Bid administration
implemented after it came to power, if you recall the

(01:46:51):
whole witch hunt at the time, those included penalizing anybody
for extremism for for example, you know, being part of
a normative true that you know, post gay Marriat, if
you were donating to such a church, you were now
actually actively funding dangerous extremist. I mean, you could be
removed from the military. So they had alwished the ability
to completely purge anybody at all conservative from the military.

(01:47:14):
They didn't get enough of a chance to do it,
but they absolutely had the infrastructure in place. They were
preparing to do it. And it's very vital that we
that the that defenseer depete hexas, whom we are very
very very lucky to have pointed out, because there are
people in the Defense Department in the media or coordinating
to try and force the mouth and try and smear them.

(01:47:35):
We are very lucky to have has pushed all that
back and said the priorities to have a warrior culture.
And under Biden you had people in the chance of
the military. We would say, we don't want a warrior culture.
Warrior culture is bad. We don't actually want multi generational
people who whose grandparents served, whose parents serving in the military.
We want people who are just coming right now into

(01:47:57):
this country who doesn't speak English. They were what are
you recruiting people in foreign languages, in Chinese and in Spanish,
people who weren't even legally here to be in the military.
And this is why we actually have a series of
scandals with espionage on behalf of China by feeing these people.

Speaker 3 (01:48:13):
Well, we also have in recruiting. It was almost a
minute Donald Trump's for and everybody, every branch of the
services and breaking recruiting records, which I think that tells
you a lot about what hopefully young people are thinking.

Speaker 6 (01:48:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:48:29):
Absolutely, there were so many people who did not want
their children to join. And these people were from military
families and know people in general who so absolutely note
and joining if you're a purpose in joining in the
military is they're going to be forced to wear high heels.
And march around so you can understand your white male privilege.
And then I'm making something that was actually happening you.
Why would you do this?

Speaker 5 (01:48:49):
Yeah? Yeah, right, Hey, thanks a lot, Daniel. He just
is a closing. If people want more Daniel Greenfield, how
can we find you.

Speaker 20 (01:48:57):
Well, there's more Daniel Greenfield than Roberts. I'm sharing a
lot of other.

Speaker 4 (01:49:00):
Talented Daniel Greenfield.

Speaker 5 (01:49:05):
Thank you so much for talking to us tonight. Okay, hey,
that's Daniel Greenfield. The piece is Obama, who purves the military,
accuses Trump of quote politicization of the mill. I'm sorry
the guest lighting of projection is right comical. All Right,
we got to take a break, but we will be back.

Speaker 3 (01:49:24):
Mike Allen Senior, Mike Allen Junior in for the great
American Willie Cunningham.

Speaker 5 (01:49:29):
Hey, we're back Sunday Night with Willie Cunningham. Mike Allen Junior,
Mike Allen Senior. Here our next guest. I'm really excited
about this. His name is Daniel Greenfield.

Speaker 6 (01:49:37):
Dad.

Speaker 5 (01:49:38):
And as you know, even more than Jimmy Carter and
Bill Clinton, Barack Obama led the most radical effort to
politicize the United States military and effort that his allies
and Senator Warrens continued under the Biden administration, between firing
commanders and what many have called a purge and rewarding
wokeness while punishing conservative ideals. When it came to promote

(01:50:00):
saddling the military with leftist priorities like you guessed it,
DEI and the always necessary green energy, Obama drastically weakened
the military by politicizing it, and in typical liberal fashion,
projection is the word. Now Barack Obama has popped up
from his hole, so to speak, to accuse Donald Trump

(01:50:23):
of you guessed it, politicizing the military. It's pretty amazing,
I guess, for deploying the National Guard here to talk
to us about all this is Daniel Greenfield. He wrote
an article about this Obama who purves the military, accuses
Trump of quote politicization of the military. I can't I

(01:50:44):
can't say it without giggling a little bit. But mister Greenfield,
thank you so much for being with us. How are you?

Speaker 10 (01:50:51):
You're absolutely right?

Speaker 20 (01:50:52):
This is complete projection.

Speaker 6 (01:50:54):
That's very typical.

Speaker 4 (01:50:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:50:57):
I couldn't agree more.

Speaker 6 (01:50:59):
So.

Speaker 5 (01:51:00):
Let me ask you this, mister Greenfield, if Barack Obama
is saying that Donald Trump is politicizing the military, what
does he call his entire eight years in being the
commander in chief? Because I got to be honest, it's
pretty rich for Barack Obama to say that Donald Trump
has politicized the military.

Speaker 20 (01:51:20):
You have to remember that as far as the left goes,
they're never political. So and every leftist organization when they're
described in the news, they're non partisan. Oh, they're a
good government. Non partisan groups it's conservative groups of course,
are right wing. So this is how they play this
particular game. They're not politicizing anything, of course, they're performing.

(01:51:41):
They're making it progressive. It's of course conservatives and Republicans
who are politicizing things in US. You know, when Charlie
Kirk was assassinate, for example, Republicans are politicizing us. And
then when they shot Charlie Kirk that was not politicizing anything.

Speaker 9 (01:51:55):
Of course.

Speaker 5 (01:51:56):
Oh no, no, it's amazing. Yeah, let me ask you,
mister Greenfield.

Speaker 3 (01:51:59):
I mean, and the main thing that I thought of
when talking about politicizing the military with respect to Barack
Obama and Joe Biden is the whole move on DEI
where a lot of times it seemed like they thought
DEI was more important than readiness.

Speaker 4 (01:52:18):
Your thoughts on that.

Speaker 20 (01:52:21):
The inste grettiness was important at all, They think the
I was absolutely important.

Speaker 10 (01:52:26):
They thought that green.

Speaker 20 (01:52:26):
Energy is very vital, which is why they ensure that
everything could possibly run on green energy, would run on
green energy if it didn't work at all. They were
quite happy to have our entire battlefield operation depend entirely
on green fuels. For them matter solar and electric powers,
and they can imagine how low that electric tank is
going to do one hundred and twenty degree in Iraq.

(01:52:49):
But to them, they always would argue that real readiness value,
the most important one was diversity, and if you didn't
have a diverse military, you weren't going anywhere. They would say,
China's military not very diverse, so we're going to be
ahead of them in diversity, which you know, I'm sure
we were ahead of them diversity, since their military is
ninety nine percent hand Chinese. We were well behind them,

(01:53:11):
and you know, everything else. But this is exactly how
they think, because they think diversity or whatever thing they're promoting,
green energy is a supreme value and it unifies all
other values. This is a very Marxist way of thinking
about things, So nothing else really matters. If you're, as
Obama like to say, on the right side of history,
that's all that you know, you're going to win at everything.

Speaker 5 (01:53:31):
Yeah, yeah, thank you very much David Greenfield for taking
the time to talk to us. I just have a
question about about some of the for lack of a
better term, disasters under the Obama and Biden administrations when
it comes to the military. I mean, we all remember
the horrific incident in Benghazi, obviously, the withdrawal from Afghanistan,

(01:53:53):
the way that Barack Obama just essentially cowtowed to the
Iranians that put American lives at risk. I don't think
it's a shocking statement to tell any American that Barack
Obama and Joe Biden were essentially incompetent commanders in chief.
But was there do you see any link or direct
I don't want to say cause, but some sort of

(01:54:14):
direct link between some of the DEI stuff, the green
energy stuff, and disasters like Benghazi or the Afghanistan withdrawal
where you can just sort of point and go, well,
there's the explanation for this.

Speaker 20 (01:54:28):
There was another arm of their wolkness, So we say so.
One of my favorite moments was when the Obama point
a chief of NASA said that his mission was Muslim
self esteem. So when they came to motor deployment, a
major factor there was making the Muslim will feel good
about it, empowering a Thomist, which is absolutely what happened

(01:54:50):
in Bengalzzi. So we were told on the ground to
be extra cautious to reassure the various jihadiest groups and
those we were paying for security. Meanwhile, all this is
going on, the people on the ground were denied MI
theary support because of course that would just offend the Jihadis.

(01:55:11):
And on top of that, Harry Clinton goes to the
grieving members of the family members who were lost and
beingatian says, you know, we got the guy who made
the video, the video being an offensive.

Speaker 9 (01:55:21):
Video about Mohammad.

Speaker 20 (01:55:22):
So this is how they operated on everything. You know,
it would be their political agenda's topped everything else.

Speaker 4 (01:55:29):
You know, I got to ask you too. I mean
one thing I noticed.

Speaker 3 (01:55:32):
If you recall back to September twenty twenty one, do
either of you guys remember Biden he requested the resignation
of eighteen appointments to the military advisory boards because he
wanted to get the Trump people out right, you know,
cram the DEI down everybody's throat.

Speaker 4 (01:55:53):
It was just kind of strange the way he did.

Speaker 20 (01:55:56):
That, I thought, absoluti. And another agenda, this was Biden's
big thing, was to make sure that he would be
appointing the first woman or the first black person to
hit something. So you know, we got to have the
I knew that the first you know, black commander in
chief was coming, and he would actually see communications from
the White House coming in and the body is saying, now,

(01:56:18):
I appointed the first woman. I did it. You know
he smelled their hair too.

Speaker 4 (01:56:21):
I'm sure yeah, uh mister Griffin. I mean, I don't
know about you, but every time I hear somebody in
politics or government say well this person is the first,
this the first that this, you know, is the first
person doing it, I immediately thinking, well, what about getting the
most qualified? Who gives a damn if they're first or not?

(01:56:44):
You know, I mean, I think that's what a lot
of people are saying. Now.

Speaker 20 (01:56:49):
Yeah, well they don't give a damn about the most qualified.
That's meritocracy, which is why supremacy. You know, even if
it involves a minority person, what they care about is
reforming America because they think Marcus a horrible, racist, sexist, homophobic,
whatever society. And thus what they're doing really is teaching
us to be less horrible people by appointing minorities two

(01:57:11):
important positions. Those people are incompetent, so much the better
because then they can really stick it to us.

Speaker 4 (01:57:17):
Oh yeah, yeah, I couldn't agree more.

Speaker 5 (01:57:20):
And I got one on Barack Obama, mister Greenfield that
it's amazing to me.

Speaker 4 (01:57:25):
Again just more projection.

Speaker 5 (01:57:27):
But in reading your piece, obviously Barack Obama's criticizing Donald
Trump and the Trump administration for using the military to
what he calls against his quote own people, I gotta
be honest with you, I failed to see what he
means by when he says his own people. I mean,
unless he means criminal gangbangers or illegal immigrants. In your

(01:57:50):
experience or just from your perspective, you know, this used
to be something that the Left was able to do constantly,
and it seemed like it just people either ignored it
or just accept it. In your experience or from what
you can see, are more people starting to realize that
this sort of stuff is just garbage and that it
is just sort of projection. Because for him to say

(01:58:11):
Donald Trump is using the National Guard against his own people,
I mean, that's not just a mischaracterization, that's just an
outright lie.

Speaker 4 (01:58:18):
I mean, his own.

Speaker 5 (01:58:19):
People are not criminal, illegal gangbanger immigrants.

Speaker 20 (01:58:25):
I have to point out that Chicago is the largest
population of gangs gang members in the country, some sixty
thousand I think when I last checked. They certainly play
a role in Chicago politics, including the election of a
gang named Barack Obama back in the day. So it
might be his own people, it's just not you know,
power owned people. And I think Americans are absolutely sick

(01:58:47):
and tired of this. You know, we were told these
lies over and over again in the year after year.
Cities were completely overrun with illegal aliens, and at this
point in the public said, you know what, we'll go
with Donald Trump. We'll go with bringing in the military,
will go with all this because the alternative is so
much worse than the alternative, is all that Obama has
to offer.

Speaker 4 (01:59:06):
I agree with that too.

Speaker 3 (01:59:07):
You know, when you're thinking about co opting the military
and using them for political purposes, one of the things,
mister Greenfield. Mike, I don't know if you remember. Remember
Biden's Soul of the Nation speech. It was September twenty
twenty two. It was bizarre. I don't know if he's front,
but they hit it like the red lights with.

Speaker 4 (01:59:27):
Red and he's got two Marines on the side of them.
I mean, that's just blatant. But Donald Trump politicizes. Oh yeah, right,
your thoughts, mister Greenfield on that.

Speaker 20 (01:59:38):
You know, there's a line that you like, he Republicans pounds, Yeah,
Americans killed overseas, the complicity of obama'station.

Speaker 16 (01:59:46):
Republicans pounds right right.

Speaker 5 (01:59:48):
I couldn't agree more. Just one more quick question, mister Greenfield.
Obviously that you know, the left love to say that
the adults are back in the room. Well, in reality,
you know, in twenty twenty four, the adults came back
into the room. Secretary of War pte. Haig Seth and
Donald Trump are obviously taking a scalpel to a lot
of these policies. What are some things that they've rolled

(02:00:09):
back that stick out to you.

Speaker 20 (02:00:12):
The rollback of the I was very important because what
was going on in the military up until then was
not just that people are being promoted through the eye
and that was absolutely something that was going on, and
officers at all levelso basically being told that your number
one job is di I. They were being told everything
has to be done through the terminology, the lens of equity,

(02:00:33):
the lens of the ecority means that as your first priority,
which meant a whole lot of people who were moving
through the system and were not.

Speaker 6 (02:00:39):
But there was also a.

Speaker 20 (02:00:40):
Purge happening of anybody who was not interested in going
along with it, anybody who was skeptical about it, anybody
who wasn't sufficiently enthusiastic about it. The regulations for hunting
down extremism that the Biden administration implemented after it came
to power, if you recall the whole witch hunt at
the time, those included penalizing anybody for extremists them for

(02:01:00):
for example, you know, being part of a normative church
that you know, post gay marrit If you were donating
to such a church, you were now actually actively funding
dangerous extremist. I mean, you could be removed from the military.
So they had alwished the ability to completely purge anybody
at all conservative from the military. They didn't get enough
of a chance to do it, but they absolutely had

(02:01:21):
the infrastructure in place, they were preparing to do it.
And it's really vital that we that the that defenseer
Cotpete Hexas, whom we are very very very lucky to have,
and I pointed out, because there are people in the
Defense department in the media or coordinating to try and
force the mouth and try and smear them, we are
very lucky to have has pushed all that back and

(02:01:42):
said the priorities to have a warrior culture, and under
Biden you had people in the upper chance of the military.
We would say, we don't want a warrior culture. Warrior
culture is bad. We don't actually want multi generational people
who whose grandparents served, whose parents serving in the military.
We want people who are just coming right now into
this country who don't even speak English. There were what

(02:02:03):
are you recruiting people in foreign languages, in Chinese and
in Spanish, people who weren't even legally here to be
in the military. And this is why we actually have
a series of scandals with espionage on behalf of China
by fee of these people.

Speaker 3 (02:02:17):
Well, we also have in recruiting. It was almost a
minute Donald Trump's for and everybody, every branch of the
services and breaking recruiting records, which I think that tells
you a lot about what hopefully young people are thinking.

Speaker 12 (02:02:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (02:02:33):
Absolutely, there were so many people who did now want
they're chiln to join. And these people work from military
families and know people in general who so absolutely not
you're joining. If you're a purpose in joining in the
military is they're going to be forced to wear high
heels and march around. So you can understand your white
mail privilege. And I'm not making this to something that
was actually happening you Why would you do this?

Speaker 4 (02:02:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (02:02:53):
Yeah, right, Hey, thanks a lot, Daniel. He just is
of closing. If people want more Daniel Greenfield, how can
we find you.

Speaker 20 (02:03:01):
Well, there's more Daniel Greenfield than Robert Spencer and a
lot of other talented Frontage mag dot com.

Speaker 5 (02:03:07):
Daniel Greenfield, thank you so much for talking to us tonight. Okay, hey,
that's Daniel Greenfield. The piece is Obama who pursed the military,
accuses Trump of quote politicization of the mill I'm sorry,
the gas lighting of projection is you're right comical.

Speaker 3 (02:03:25):
All right, we gotta take a break, but we will
be back Mike Allen senior, Mike Allen junior, in for
the great American Willie Cunningham,