Mike Allen Saturday Mid-Day -- 10/18/25

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
News Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen and Saturday midday
on a really nice Saturday morning. Well, I'll tell you what,
we got a full show today for the first time
in a while. Be here nine to noon. Should be
plenty of time to get y'all out in time for
the No King's protest. The one down here is small

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riverfront park. They got one in Claremont County. They got
one in northern Kentucky, they got one in Westchester. So
I'll make sure y'all get out of there, get done
with this thing, so you can go. Of course, I
say that with tongue planted firmly in chic and you know,
not to get off on this, but I mean, what

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do they think they accomplish? I mean, really, at the
end of the day, you know, it's performative. It's so
they can feel good about out themselves. And they're pretty
much all the same. I mean, you know, you get
some three hundred pound woman with purple hair and nose
rings bitching about Donald Trump. At the end of the day,

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what does that accomplish? I don't get it, But you
know what, more power to them. It's a free country.
We have a first Amendment here, but you're just wasting
your time. But sometimes there really is some humor in it,
so I guess we'll see on that. But getting down
to business here, when as I talk just for a

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minute about the left's response to the ceasefire that was
engineered by President Trump and bb Net and Yahoo mainly
Trump though in the Israel Palestine war. Fox News Digital
has it's really good, has a great article on this thing.

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It says, it's titled the Deafening silence of the Free
Power Palestine Movement after the Gaza Ceasefire. Now, in a
normal world, wouldn't you think that the people that have
been complaining the loudest about it would say, hey, you
know what, it wasn't everything that we wanted it to be,

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But thank you, President Trump. That stuff don't happen on
the left, It just doesn't. They're never wrong about anything.
They'll never admit when they are wrong. You know, it
just doesn't happen, and it kind of comes from the
inherent arrogance of liberalism. But you didn't hear anyone on

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the left comment about it at all. And of course
there's no surprise there, and you know they'll be back,
they'll be singing their Peter Paul and Mary songs and
bitching about one thing or another. What about the Hollywood
b listers who had a field day criticizing Trump. And

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you know, this week we heard reports that Hamas was
executing Palestinian citizens who say they were or they say
was assisting Israel. So where is the left complaining about that?
And they actually had pictures of that? And does that
surprise anyone either? See, that's the thing about this agreement.

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It's going to be a difficult thing to police, but
they're going to have to do that. They kill each
other over there. And again, I'll say it, there's not
a damn dime's worth of difference between Palestine and Jmas.
If the Palestinians didn't want Hamas, they kicked their asses
out of there a long, long time ago. And you know,

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now maybe the time is ripe for them to do something.
I don't know, I don't know what the military situation
is over there, but now they're killing one another. What
about all the Hollywood bubbleheads who President Trump for what
he did to bring the war to a peaceful conclusion.

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You know, I think we need to talk about that
just for a second. Here okay, Fox New Celebrities who
called for ceasefire and guys have faced scrutiny after Trump
peace deal breakthrough. Hollywood's most vocal free Palestine advocates are
facing scrutiny for their muted or critical response to the

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ceasefire deal between Israel and Hamas, which was secured, of course,
by President Trump. Many in Hollywood who repeatedly called for
ceasefire throughout the conflict, including members of campaigns such as
Artists for Ceasefire film Workers for Palestine, have either stayed
quiet or criticized the breakthrough, with few acknowledgments of Trump's

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role in securing it. And that's just it. I mean,
that's what they wanted. They're not going to get their
free Palestine, but they did get the ceasefire. You would
think there would be a little bit of gratitude there,
but no, not even gratitude, just at least acknowledge it.

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Columnist Paulaphrelic she criticized about a dozen celebrities who publicly
called for free Palestine and ceasefire now or wore a
red handpin to the Oscars in twenty twenty four. She
said many have since stayed silent on the peace deal,
or continued to blame Israel for all the atrocities that

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have happened in the past two years. You know, I
guess they weren't there for October the seventh, when babies
were murdered, women were raped, families were destroyed. But hey,
that doesn't mean anything. We're not worried about that. We're
worried about Israel. And you know, they're alleged crimes, which

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there were none. There were none of substance. And you
know what, I'll take that back. A couple things happened,
but the Israeli stepped right up. Well, anyway, this woman,
Paula Farilik, had a good quote. If I were less charitable,
I might argue that Hollywood celebrities care more about a
performative farce. And boy, she's so right. And that's just it.

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She got the right word. Performative sparse. That's what they
want to do, scolding Israel and our president than seeing
a free Palestine actually happen in real time. I don't
know about that. How's that for hypocrisy? And that was
coming from a person in the UK. Some supporters of

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the Free Palestine movement maintained that the ceasefire does not
fully address the humanitarian crisis or allegations accusing Israel of genocide.
Every time I hear that, that gets there on the
back of my neck.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Up.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Israel and the IDF did not commit any type of
genocide over there. Amasa, on the other hand, on October
the seventh and throughout did And it looks like they're
gonna keep it up this time. They're not gonna kill Israelis.
They're gonna kill their own people. That's what you're dealing

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with here. These people are scum. They're the scum of
the earth. They're filthy people. They kill babies, they rape women,
they destroy lives. Why in the hell are people saddling
up with them? I never could figure that out. It
just shows that the twisted sense of values and you know, uh,

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just a really stupid outlook on things. And of course
we all know where it em and H's from. That
would be the American College camp. Oh here's another one,
this dude, John Cusack. He's an actor. I've heard of him.
I don't know what the hell he's been in. But
to anyone that believes for a moment that Net and

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Yahoo will stop killing again, idiot What about the other side,
What about the moss idiot? I got to calm down.
To anyone who believes for a moment that Netanyahu will
stop killing there's a brood a bridge in Brooklyn for sale.
He'll give Trump the photo op and then resume. This

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is what the guy said, accusing both leaders of using
the deal for political gain. So you know, that's Hollywood
for you. I guess I gotta be fair and read
the I think one that I found where they express
support for it. Other celebrities expressed cautious optimism, progressive actors

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Mark Ruffalo and Susan Sarana. Now, I got to tell you,
Susan Sarandon is one of the biggest libs in Hollywood,
so this is kind of impressive. Shared a statement from
artists Force Ceasefire on October tenth, calling the agreement an
urgent and heartening moment of relief. So kudos for them

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for at least having the you know what to step forward,
and you know, I mean give the man his due.
I mean he didn't get the Nobel Peace Prize. The
woman who got it, I don't know what for. You know,
I got to hand it to her too. She dedicated
it to President Trump, So whatever, I mean, that's kind

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of water under the damn. But just stay tuned on
this thing, because it's not over. Those people are going
to continue to kill their own people over there, and
I guess the protests for that will be upcoming pretty soon,
So stay tuned. I guess. Well, this week we also

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had a real sentencing of a terrorist. You may recall
that last week we were talking about the situation with
the guy that came to b at Kavanaugh's house ready
to go to town at all his equipment, ready to
kill him and or his family. And what did he get?

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What sentence did he get for attempting to assassinate a
Supreme Court justice? He got eight years credit free and
figuring in the good time. Dude will be out sometime
and no later than twenty twenty eight. So let me
talk to you about the way terrorists should be sentenced.

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There's at least one judge in this country who knows
how to sentence a terrorist. Dude's name is Cody Balmer.
You might remember this. He attempted to burn way. He
did burn down the governor's mansion for Governor Shapiro in Pennsylvania.
He was sentenced to listen to this twenty five to

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excuse me, twenty five to fifty years in prison for
the April thirteenth, twenty twenty five arson attack on the
official residence of Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro. He pled guilty
to charges including attempted murder, aggravated arson, and terrorism after

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firebombing the home while the governor and his family were inside.
This one really really could.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Have been bad.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah, anyway, Like I said, he firebombed the Governor's residence
in Harrisburg, causing millions of dollars in damage. He used
molotov cocktails made from beer bottles filled with gasolin. You
think those things can't do some damage, you know, But
he got twenty five to fifty years in state prison.

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That's what you do with these people, you had, well.
Number one, first and foremost, you've got to punish them
because they deserve punishment. But you also have to send
a message that hey, man, if you want to try
this stuff and you get caught, shame on you. You're
going to get hammered, you know, with a sentence like

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this guy got, it's appropriate twenty five to thirty years.
I don't know about Pennsylvania law. You know, whether early
release would be a possibility, It probably would. He pled
to twenty two counts of arson, So I guess we'll
have to see. But it was gratifying to see that,

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especially coming so close after the travesty we had with
Brett Kavanaugh's murderer attempted murder sentence just a couple of
minutes here saw something this week that was kind of
shall I say, uplifting to me, transgenders, The trend is

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declining quickly on American college campuses. This new analysis found
the trans identification trend among young people appears to be
losing momentum. Recent data taken from college campuses shows a
sharp decline in the number of gen Zers identifying as

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transgender over the past three years. Okay, let me lay
it out for you, and both twenty twenty two and
twenty twenty three, five percent of college people identified as trans.
IT went up in twenty twenty four to five point

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two percent. Now just recently, only three point six percent
identify as trans. You know, it doesn't sound like that's
a lot, but you're not talking about a lot of people.
Only three point six, As I said, respondents identified as

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a gender other than male or female. And did you
ever think that we would actually be talking about this.
I mean, it's to me and I think so many
other people, it's just so simple. Almighty God created us
to be one thing or another, not in between, not

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to take your body apart, cutting things off, to transform
with what you think on that particular day. So good
news only five point two percent, well up to five
point two and twenty twenty four it was eight point
six in you know what, I missed that up when

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I read it before, uh, six point eight percent both
in twenty twenty two and twenty three. Bottom line is
it's going down and that has to be a good thing.
And let me be clear, and it seems like I
have to say this every time, but I do want
to be clear. I'm not advocating for any kind of
ill treatment of transgender people, not even advocating for being

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rude to them. What I am advocating for is the
government and through us, our taxpayer dollars, to facilitate that stuff.
You know, this guy Ruffle or what's his name, the
guy that the guy that attempted to murder Brett Kavanaugh
and his family. Part of his sentence was that the

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government is going to have to pay at least some
of his medical bills for his sex change stuff. So
I think that's what's good about it. It's good to
see those numbers going the other way. So I guess
we shall see what happens with that. Hey, we got

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to take a break, but we'll be back with your calls.
Seven four nine, seven thousand, one, eight hundred. The big
one are the numbers. Mike Allen Saturday Midday, thirty six
News Radio seven hundred WLW, Mike Allen Saturday Midday, get
to the phones here in just a second. Just want
to let you know. At ten o'clock after this segment,

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we're going to talk to Janis Heisel of the Epoch Times.
She did as deep a dive as I've ever seen
in two separate articles about Antifa. Just a real shadow,
shadowy organization that people don't know a lot about. But
Janis is going to fill us in on all that.
At ten thirty we're going to talk as we frequently do,

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local politics, city politics with Christopher Smitheman, and at eleven o'clock.
I always enjoy this independent political analysts, and he is independent.
Kevin Burton we're going to talk to him about some
of the things going on in the national political scene.
So I think we got a good show for you. Hey,

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let's start off with our good friend Bobby. Hey, good morning, Bobby, Mike.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
A simple thank you can't express our true feelings of
appreciation for you carrying that torture freedom high and bright
every day and make you're appreciated brother.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Thank you. It's my honor to do it. Bobby.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
I'd like to bring up something we've discussed in the past,
and it's the midst of our cultural revolution.

Speaker 5 (17:36):
We're going to have.

Speaker 4 (17:37):
Part of it going today, and all the protesters out there,
just take your cell phones because when Antifa and filtrate
your organization, we would love to know who you are
and where you're at, since you can't turn them all.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Good point, good point. You know, they go through these
things and at the end of the day, of course
they have a right to do it, But what do
they think they accomplish. More often than not, they look
like idiots.

Speaker 6 (18:04):
You know that.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
I've always said this, Bobby, and I believe it. Most
of your hard left people, they're obsessed with the sixties.
They want to turn the clock back to the sixties,
and you know, people just don't want to do that.
I don't get it, but hey, you know what have
about it, guys, if you want to make a fool
of yourself, go ahead.

Speaker 7 (18:25):
All it does is support our calls. My friend, you're
absolutely right about that. I mean, I don't know. We
shall see, boy, I'll tell you what. They sure got
enough locations though in this area, and they seem to
be pretty well organized.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
But at the end of the day, what I mean,
what do you accomplish anyway, That's just what I think
about it.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
Well, thank you, my friend, and I hope they are
in the Rico Act somewhere.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
You never know, man, Thanks Bobby, Thank you, sir. Okay,
I appreciate that. Well, I'll tell you you know, Bobby
just mentioned RICO. I think in relationship to Antifa. Rico
is the organized crime statute that federal. You got it
in the state law too, but mainly federal where it's

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if you can just to boil it all down, demonstrate
that some entity is a criminal entity, then there's going
to be some criminal liability. Now we'll talk to Janis
about this, but you know, Trump gave that executive order
not too long ago designating Antifa as a terrorist organization,

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and they're drilling down on it. I think it's in
its infancy, but they're drilling down on that entity named Antifa,
and that's a good thing. And one of the things
they're going to be looking at is who's funding him.
They're real sketchy with their funding, and that's one of
the things I think this probe is going to find

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out now whether it's a George sorosteal, you know, I
don't know. I've read things where they show up to
these rallies with like preprinted placards that they can carry around,
and you know, you don't do those. The night before,
I did read this morning that apparently Soros is pretty

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much bankroll in this whole idiocy of No King's Day. So,
you know, Antifa is a problem for a long time.
You know, they just kind of were in the background.
You weren't allowed to criticize him or anything like that,
but god forbid you criticize Black Lives Matter or one

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of those groups. But knowing Trump, I think he's got
a handle on the thing and we'll see what happens.
I guess let's talk to Dennis. We haven't heard from
him in a long time. Hey, Dennis, how you doing.
Welcome back?

Speaker 3 (20:47):
All right, Mike, how are you good? Good?

Speaker 1 (20:49):
What you got today? Good?

Speaker 8 (20:51):
Yeah? This character who was sentenced for tempting to murder
you know here you know the Supreme Court. Oh yeah, yeah,
and his family and the sentence he got. You know,
somebody should have brought up what if he attempted the
judge who sentenced them, well, if he had attempted to

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kill her and her family or you know, and and
and the fact that he's he she addressed them as
a transgender Uh, you know, he's a biological male. And
I think, isn't he going to a female prison or
is he going to a male prisoner?

Speaker 1 (21:32):
I think maybe initially a male prison. You know that's
on the Bureau of Prisons, and you know what a
job they have to have to balance that whole circus.
She seemed like she was more concerned about his transgender
rights than she was in you know, crafting the right.
It made sense.

Speaker 8 (21:54):
Yeah, yeah, I like these these these judges that are
these people that these transgender people to get men biological
men get sent who sent get sent to women's prisons?
How do they reconcile the fact that these some of
the some of them impregnate the women inmates, which means

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they are functioning as males, biological males, not as females.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Well, that just goes out topsy turvy. This world is
in this country is I've heard that same thing too.
I mean, I'd hate to be a warden of one
of these federal prisons where on top of everything else,
and prisons are places where bad things happen on top
of the normal things that happen. You got to deal
with this too, and it's just so unnecessary. Why do

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we have to jump through hoops for a group that
is minuscule in number.

Speaker 8 (22:51):
Yeah, another thing, what do you think is gonna happen
with your police chief there in.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
A you know what, I don't know. I think she's gone.
She retained Steve m who is one hell of a
employment lawyer. I think they're negotiating a settlement.

Speaker 8 (23:07):
For Yeah, you think she It sounds like she's been
made the fall I say, fall guy or whatever, the
scapegoat of this whole thing.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
I think you're right about that. And that's happening by
some members accouncil, but mainly the mayor. And you know what,
it's not the way the situation is in the city
crime wise, it ain't her fault. Has she been perfect?
Probably not, But it's just wrong that all this stuff
is heaped upon her. But I think she'll be gone

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by this time next week, probably sooner.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Oh man, Ye.

Speaker 8 (23:46):
Who should really follows your mayor? That's who needs to
be kicked out.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
You would think. And we got an election coming out.
But boy, I'll tell you, the city of Cincinnati is
a tough nut for a Republican the crack. But I
think Corey Bowman what I don't know how much know
about him, just a great he's the brother in law
of the Vice president, but just on his own great candidate,
knows the issues, got the right temperament. But again he's

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got an uphill battle.

Speaker 8 (24:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did watch. We watched the debate
on the on the on the streaming, and yeah, you're right,
he actually cares and he has no he has no
further political aspirations, right, like right.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Right, Well, I appreciate the call, Dennis, don't put a
stranger anymore. Okay, okay, bye bye. Yeah, I'm glad he
brought that up. I didn't want to talk about it.
Sometime during the show, and I do think she's gone.
Steve im is in the Finny law firm. I think,
great law firm, and Steve is a very well respected
lawyer in this area. So and you don't hire a

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top notch guy like that if you know, you think
you're going to keep your job. But it's uh, it's unfortunate,
it really is. And one thing, and I'm going to
get back to the phones here in just a second.
A lot of people don't realize this, and maybe with
me it's a function of age. Back in the nineties,
I believe it was maybe early two thousands, there was

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an issue on the city ballot. It was Issue five,
and what it was all about is taking away civil
service protection from the chief of police and placing that
in the hands of the mayor. I'm going to tell
you right now it was dumb, dumb, dumb, But it

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passed I think pretty handily. If my recollection is correct.
If we did not have Issue five, and if the
police chief still had civil service protections and I'm not
saying she's doing this, any police chief would not have
to go down to city Hall and say may or,

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may I you know, and that and it worked out
well for years and years and years. Perhaps perhaps we
might need to get that back on the ballot, because
I'm telling you, if Issue five and what promulgated from
Issue five wasn't there, we wouldn't be in the mess

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that we're in. We still have crime problems, but the
chief of police would not be a political entity. That
person would be a law enforcement entity. Anyway, let's talk
to Barry in Miamisburg. Hey, Barry, how you doing.

Speaker 9 (26:33):
I just want to ask the question, after listening to
the radio over the course of the week, how much
more clueless the city leadership be about crime.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
It's yeah, you're absolutely right, You are so right about that.
They don't get it.

Speaker 9 (26:51):
I heard the mayor talk about needing more gun control.
One the problem, you she is not being criminals in
jail for more than three hours. Yeah, that's the problem.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
It's not gun control. It's a problem with police not
being aggressive and proactive. And again, I know I say
this every time, but I think I should. It ain't
their fault. I think they'd love to be unleashed and
do aggressive and legal, constitutional, proactive policing. That's what we need.

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That's the only thing that's going to solve this, not
gun control, not more programs. You know, I'm sorry. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (27:38):
First of all, I do not believe the problem is
with your rank and file police officer. They have to
deal with the garbage that they get from the top.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Oh. Absolutely. I mean it's a pairamilitary organization. If their boss,
you know, the sergeant, captain, lieutenant, a system chief, chief, whatever,
tells them to do something, I mean, as long it's
not patently illegal, they have to do it. It is not.
You are so so right, Barry. It is not the
line level officer. That police officer is not at fault.

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I've talked to a lot of these young guys and women,
and that's pretty much almost to the person, what I get.
They're afraid to do their jobs like they used to
be done because, you know, let's just say they pull
over the wrong person. You know, they say, just accidentally

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something you know, out of line to the wrong person, Boom,
They're in the jackpot and they're not going to risk that.
I don't blame them.

Speaker 9 (28:45):
The second thing is your next guest from Epic Time. Yes,
it's part of the reason why I have an electric
subscription to that. She is so on the ball it's amazing.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Thank you.

Speaker 9 (28:59):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
You said that before, and I told her that and
she told me to tell you she appreciates it. So
there you go. Yeah, I concur with that. She's very well. Okay, Barry,
thank you appreciate it. How about Maureen, Let's talk to Maureen. Hey, Maureen,

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how are you hi?

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Good morning, Mike.

Speaker 10 (29:23):
I wanted to chime in on the groups that are
involved with the No Kings.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Movement this week today.

Speaker 10 (29:30):
There was an article yesterday, it was on the Gateway Pundit,
and it's called No King's Protest in New York City
Saturday is sponsored by several communist groups and it goes
into it's the Democratic Socialists of America, New York Working
Families and Parties, the CPUSA Freedom Socialist Party, and they're

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all sponsoring this lat rally. And if you go to
that article on Gateway Pundit from yesterday, it'll tell you.

Speaker 11 (29:57):
It'll give you a video of.

Speaker 10 (29:58):
Chuck Schumer and how he's promoting it. Instead of trying
to work on shutting down the shutdown or opening up again,
he's promoting this this movement today.

Speaker 12 (30:09):
But it always.

Speaker 10 (30:10):
Sponsored by communist parties and they'll give you all the
whole list. There's like, I don't know, over one hundred
of them in that article. I'm gonna be good for
people to look at.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
I'm definitely gonna check that out, you know. And didn't
you just say that part of it is one of
the endorsers is the Communist Party of USA. Is that correct?

Speaker 13 (30:30):
Absolutely?

Speaker 10 (30:31):
Yes, and it's yeah, it's a lot of them that
It's all in that article. It shows you all their
logos and everything so that you can see them. I'm
sure they'll be on their placards today that are pre made.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, paid for by George Soros apparently. But
all right, well I sure appreciate that. Heads up, Marine,
sure check it out, Okay, I will thank you, thanks, Mike. Yeah,
the organization she rattled off, I mean one of them
was CPUSA Communist Party of the United States of America,

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which now is a joke. I mean it's just a joke,
you know, just like the Klan is a joke on
the other side. But it's still there. And all those
other groups are what they used to call and I'm
still going to call them Communist front organizations. Look if
the City of New York Alexman Dami, they're going to

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get a dose. If he's true to his word, and
I ain't so sure about that, but if he's true
to his word and true to what he says he's
going to do, we are going to have one hell
of a crash in the city in New York. And
you know, I kind of feel sorry for those people.
Apparently some of the more wealthy ones business people are

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already getting the hell out of there. But it would
be good in that we will get a bird'seye view
of what happens when a municipal government is governed by
someone who is at minimum a socialist and in all
likelihood probably a communist. And you know, I've been around

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a while. I've enjoyed being interested in politics for a
long long time, disgusted with my father at the dinner
table and everything else. If you would have told me
back then that there would be a communist or committed socialist,
even borderline communist running for an office like that, you're crazy,

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I'd say, you're crazy. I always wonder, maybe it's weird,
but I always wonder what Ronald Reagan must be thinking.
I mean, that guy put this country on one hell
of a straight course and boy, if he's looking down now,
I don't think he can be too happy, but I
mean that's the way it is. And thank god for

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one Donald J. Trump. He has turned more stuff around
in less than a year than most presidents accomplish in
their time in two terms. It's amazing and it's surprising
to me, shocking to me in a good way. What's
going on? And well, i'll tell you what. He is

(33:19):
not letting anyone get in his way. Keep in mind
with him, it's not even been a year yet. But
we have to keep the House. We got to beef
up that majority, we have to keep the Senate or
a lot of this stuff, not all of it comes
to a grinding halt. Hey, we got to break for

(33:39):
the news. But again we've talked about this morning. When
we get back, we're going to talk to Janis Heisel
of the Epoch Times about Antifa, what they're all about
and how they formed. We'll do that when we get back.
Mike Allen, Saturday Midday News Radio seven Drew Mike Allen

(34:01):
on Saturday Midday, Well, President Trump, the Department of Justice,
and the FBI are really cracking down on terrorist groups
like the one we're going to talk about Antifa. The
President designated them as a domestic terrorist organization any ordered
federal agencies to root out quote any and all illegal

(34:24):
operations close quote. But really, I mean, what do we
know about Antifa. I don't think it's very much. Really.
Janis Heisl of the Epoch Times did a deep dive
on this subject in two separate articles, and she's here
this morning to tell us about it.

Speaker 14 (34:42):
Janus, good morning, good morning, Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Hey, my pleasure, my pleasure. Just in general, tell us
about what you learned about Antifa, and I'll have some
specific questions later, but just generally what you found out,
because I really don't think Janis people know a lot
about the group.

Speaker 14 (35:02):
Well, actually I didn't either, and so I got this
assignment and then, as you mentioned, I really did a
lot of research and poured it into this story that
you referenced, a couple of stories that I did. So
one of the biggest things that stands out to me
is that this movement actually encompasses a whole bunch of
different ideologies. For example, it attracts a lot of people

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who are into anarchy, people who are into communism, and
it actually has communist roots, which I did not know
before I did this research.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
You know, I had heard that maybe maybe came across
this that it kind of sprang from the Spanish Civil
War back in the thirties and forties. I don't know.
Did you find anything out that would verify that, not
that it matters.

Speaker 14 (35:48):
Actually, the anti fascist movement as it's known today is
generally traced to nineteen thirty two when a group in
Germany formed that caught it self in German, the English
translation is anti fascist action.

Speaker 5 (36:04):
Thus the word antifa started to come into vogue.

Speaker 14 (36:08):
And even today, a lot of the signs, symbols that
were used, flags and things that were used by that
group are still in use today, embraced by this movement
which ironically accuses other people of being fascist, but then
they're accused of being fascist by again. The term fascism
is even quote unquote hard to define, even according to

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people who are proponents of fascism. Generally, it's viewed as
authoritarianism or trying to stop people from expressing their opinions
or oppressing them.

Speaker 5 (36:39):
But then that is what antifa does.

Speaker 14 (36:42):
Antifa is it's such a contradictory thing because antifa says
you know, we're going after people who.

Speaker 5 (36:48):
Are oppress others, But then what do they do?

Speaker 14 (36:51):
They try to stop people from seeing things they want
to say. In fact, two of their slogans are quote
no platform for people who are they deem fascist and
it's up to them to decide who's a fascist, and
anybody under their definition could be named a fascist.

Speaker 5 (37:08):
That was another surprise I.

Speaker 14 (37:09):
Was stunned to see on the Rose City Antifa, which
is the Portland, Oregon where where there's been a lot
of clashes lately with ICE and Antifa. One of their
criteria is literally people who engage in anti liberal, anti
communists or get this anti conservative rhetoric.

Speaker 5 (37:33):
Anybody might fit that definition. I just kind of liked it.
I mean, although that's not the only criteria.

Speaker 14 (37:40):
They say that you have to have several criteria before
they would deem you a fascist.

Speaker 5 (37:43):
But people who were in.

Speaker 14 (37:45):
The movement and blew the whistle on this say that,
you know, as soon as you aren't stepping in line
with what they want, you become a fascist and they
attack you.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Oh of course. You've got a really interesting quote on
page eight of the longer article from a guy named
Gabriel nadalas ex ANTIFA participant and author of a book.
It's a real short quote. Antifas stands for anti fascist,
but the name is deceptive. Anyone who dares to criticize

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the group or its tactics can be labeled a fascist.
So you know, that word is getting to be like
racist and racism, where it's tossed around so much. I mean,
the word fascist tossed around so much that it's literally
lost all of its value and meaning.

Speaker 14 (38:34):
It has been tossed around quite a bit. And you know,
I've interviewed people. There was one man I interviewed for
that article that you're referencing who has been.

Speaker 5 (38:42):
Very victimized, very like Docks.

Speaker 14 (38:45):
That's another technique besides actual violence, to try to shut
people down.

Speaker 5 (38:50):
And they wear black clothing. That's another thing.

Speaker 14 (38:52):
You know, although that you know, anybody can wear black, right,
you might go to a gym and find a bunch
of people wearing black, but anybody.

Speaker 5 (38:58):
Could wear black. But this is another characteristic.

Speaker 14 (39:01):
They dress in black block, including masks on the face.

Speaker 13 (39:04):
Prior to.

Speaker 14 (39:07):
Even COVID, you know, they used to wear masks to
make themselves anonymous. So there was a gentleman who was
telling me about these techniques that he's observed over and
over again, and it makes them hard to identify.

Speaker 5 (39:19):
So if you're attacked.

Speaker 14 (39:20):
By a black block as they call it vloc, you
can't go, oh, that's the guy that hit me over
the head with a pipe.

Speaker 5 (39:28):
You just can't identify these people.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
So that was.

Speaker 5 (39:31):
Another thing that I found. And they docs.

Speaker 14 (39:33):
People, meaning they take your personal information, they'll put it
out there and they'll label you.

Speaker 5 (39:38):
As anti gay, and they'll tag.

Speaker 14 (39:40):
Your employer, and they will maybe even go after your
family members, show up at your you know, places you're
known to hang out, and just lots of different ways
to intimidate people into a feeling that it's no longer
worth coming out and sharing whatever your political view is.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Right, I'm assuming, based on what you've said and based
on what I read in your articles, that there is
no identifiable leader or really even any structure for Antifa.
Is that an accurate statement from what I understand?

Speaker 5 (40:16):
Yes, although there is a one network that.

Speaker 14 (40:19):
Does have at least seven identified active members. You can
go on the Internet and search for Torch Antifa network
and it has seven active chapters there.

Speaker 5 (40:31):
And actually I'm told that that's by.

Speaker 14 (40:33):
Design that the analogy given to me by one of
the people I interviewed was, you know, it's not like that,
you know, the mafia or a drug cartel is going
to have an organizational chart like the typical corporation would.
You wouldn't have that out there because it's a way
to give, you know, guideposts to people who might seek
to authorities who might seek to be charging you criminally

(40:56):
for these activities.

Speaker 5 (40:58):
And so you know, whenever there's been an org chart
of for example, the mafia.

Speaker 14 (41:04):
That tends to be something that the authority is put
together after investigating. So we don't know what it looks like.
It may be as loose as described, it may be
more organized than described. But one of the biggest things
that cash Puttel, the FBI director, said is that he
is following the money because quote, money never lies.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
He said, I saw that in your article, and that
leads me into what I was going to ask you later,
but I'll ask it now. Any idea who is funding
this group? Now, the logical suspect would be George Soros.
I guess his son's taken over his communist stuff now,
But we're able to get any kind of clue or
lead into who's spending money on this thing, because I

(41:47):
don't know if it was in your article, but somewhere else.
You know, they show up to these rallies, these protests
with handmade not handmade, but pre made signs that look
like they were professionally done. Somebody's somebody's bank rolling them.
Anything on that Janus.

Speaker 14 (42:03):
Well, there are videos that actually show equipment such as
you know, masks or maybe even weapons, different things being
handed out from like vans. So again, there is something
afoot here that part of it I don't know a
lot about. I do know that the authorities are looking
into this, The FBI, all the different agencies of the

(42:23):
federal government are investigating the funding aspect, and I've read
some things about it, But right now I don't have
a deep knowledge on that yet, and I don't think
most people are.

Speaker 5 (42:33):
Very few people would at this point.

Speaker 14 (42:36):
It's something that there's just a dawning awareness of, and
more and more investigation is going to be coming forth,
I think. So we'll see what happens, and we'll see
whether you know, it really is as quote unquote not
organized as they say, or whether it's more organized than
they are purporting.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
It's really perplexing. I mean, and obviously the president is
put as a high priority, and that's obviously a good thing.
But boy, I'll tell you what, it's really sketchy. Wanted
to ask you. There's a guy that you interviewed, I
think for both of your articles. But Andy, and I'm
gonna probably screw this up, ngo nego am I saying that? Right?

Speaker 5 (43:17):
Janis if Andy know?

Speaker 14 (43:20):
And actually I incorporated into my story an interview he
did with one of my colleagues.

Speaker 5 (43:25):
Sometimes we do that to help each other out.

Speaker 14 (43:27):
But so I didn't speak with him directly, although I've
been in contact with him on social media. And that
particular journalist was attacked viciously and almost died of a
brain game in twenty nineteen, and he describes in his book,
which I did read for this article, how you know,
he was hit very hard in the back of his head.

(43:47):
He naively thought maybe it was an accident, and he
turns around and then suddenly he's surrounded by what he
calls what they call the black Block, an anonymous mob
of black clad people just beating the pulp out of
this guy.

Speaker 5 (44:02):
And he shows up at.

Speaker 14 (44:03):
The hospital with a brain bleed and then to humiliate him.

Speaker 5 (44:06):
They threw like I guess, milkshaits on him.

Speaker 14 (44:09):
There's even a picture in my article that shows this
young man just dripping with this white colored liquid. Just
again it's a humiliation tactic. And you know, they targeted
him and literally he said, all he was doing was
filming with his iPhone.

Speaker 5 (44:26):
He wasn't bothering anybody.

Speaker 14 (44:27):
I don't think he was even necessarily talking to anybody
at the moment, hit from behind and almost died.

Speaker 5 (44:33):
He's because he was just pummeled.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
He's a journalist, didn't he Yeah, yeah, he was.

Speaker 5 (44:37):
An independent journalist at the time. He's not affiliated with
like a couple of.

Speaker 14 (44:41):
Organizations, I believe, and has written this book that has been.

Speaker 5 (44:45):
A best seller.

Speaker 14 (44:47):
He actually had to leave the country because he has
been so so attacked. In his last name No and
Geo is a Vietnamese name, and he says in his
book and in interviews I've seen with him where he
loves this country. His parents escaped communist regime in Vietnam,

(45:07):
and that's why he felt so passionate about bringing to
light what these people are doing. And you know, not
all of them are communists, and he says they're purposely
hard to define. They're purposely you know, it helps make
it harder to identify who they are. It makes it
harder to maybe even press charges. It's just it's done

(45:29):
by design to be kind of vague.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Yeah, and boy, I tell you that's one of the
things that is kind of consistent through it. They are vague.
And in your article, I forget which one. And this
is pretty incredible, but doesn't surprise me. Former FBI Director
Christopher Ray called Antifa quote an ideology rather than quote
an organization. I get it that they're sketchy, but when

(45:54):
the top law enforcement off Sir makes that determination based
on nothing, just tells me that, at least under him,
they weren't taking it seriously. It certainly seems like Cash
Battel and President Trump and you know, the whole Department
of Justice are taking it seriously. Would you agree with that?

Speaker 14 (46:16):
Well, they have made no bones about it. In fact,
in his executive order designating Antifa a domestic terrorist organization
and also in a related.

Speaker 5 (46:28):
Memo, President Trump comes out and.

Speaker 14 (46:30):
Tells all the various aspects of the national security apparatus.

Speaker 5 (46:34):
The FBI, even the.

Speaker 14 (46:37):
IRS, all of these different agencies, the Treasury, department, on
and on. He is issuing directives to fully investigate and
root out whatever structure does exist and whatever funding does exist,
and make it a high NAP. I think he said
the word top national priority in either the memo or
the executive order.

Speaker 5 (46:57):
I don't remember which.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
Well, I'll tell you it's obviously needed. Are you gonna
stay on this? I sure hope so.

Speaker 5 (47:04):
Actually I have been told to do that.

Speaker 14 (47:06):
So it seems like, you know, this is gonna be
my next area of concentration. And I've got to say,
it's uh. When you dig into this, it the murkiness
of the whole thing becomes even more apparent to you.

Speaker 5 (47:22):
It's just it was a vague thing for.

Speaker 14 (47:24):
Me, and now it's become specifically vague, if that makes
any sense.

Speaker 5 (47:28):
Now I understand that it's purpose.

Speaker 14 (47:31):
They try to be vague about it, and it can't
attract anybody.

Speaker 5 (47:34):
And the sad part is anybody.

Speaker 14 (47:35):
Can be a target, literally, anybody who opposes them like
that that one quote, That's why I've told that quote
from the book. Anybody can be labeled a fascist. And
what a horrible thing to say about a person, same
thing as the word racist exactly, you know.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
It's tossed around so much that it virtually has no
meaning anymore.

Speaker 14 (47:57):
And I don't think a lot of people even know
what the word fascist means, if they're being truthful, because
even the people, even the guy who wrote the book
that was pro antifa, said fascism is hard to define.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
You know, I guess growing up and learning about this
stuff in high school, and I always equated fascism with
Benito Mussolini over in Italy. But it is a word
that I guess can have any number of meanings whatever
they want to give it for the day, I suppose,
but really appreciate you talk to us about this, Janus,

(48:32):
and hope we can call on you again.

Speaker 5 (48:35):
Absolutely, Mike is always a pleasure. Thank you so much
for having me.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
Okay, thank you all right, Janis Heisel of the Epoch Times.
If you have time and you are so inclined, man,
go read these articles. They're kind of like one right
on top of the other. The longer one antifat communist roots,
violent tactics and terror designation, and the other on FBI

(49:00):
other agencies ramp up antifa probe and boy, I'll tell
you what that is so needed, and that is something
that Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, there is no way in
God's green earth that they would have done anything similar
to that. Anyway, we got to take a break, but

(49:22):
we'll be back. Mike Allen Saturday. Hey, we're back, Mike
Allen Saturday midday. We put out an all points bulletin
for Christopher Smoothman. I have in a little trouble locating
him today, but if I know him, he'll call. He's

(49:45):
probably busy on his campaign, but gives me an opportunity
to say. Just as I'm sitting here, I heard our
newscast talking about a person was apprehended on a drive
by shooting that happened downtown course in the three hundred
block of Sycamore Street. Well, anyway, they talked about, you know,

(50:06):
apprehending the guy and somebody I assume it as a
police they wanted to or they acknowledged help from the
Hamilton County Probation Department Field office. They have these different
probation substations throughout the county where you know, the probation

(50:26):
officers are a little bit closer to the action to
the people. Without question, everyone has said that it's a
good idea. Well, the judges don't think so apparently. I
don't know if they voted on it or not, but
I'm looking at Fox nineteen article dated September third, and

(50:48):
they talk about they're going to have a vote on
whether to get rid of them or not. I said
it at the time, and I'll say it again. There
is absolutely no reason whatsoever to get rid of the
pro bation field offices. And you just heard it. They
were helpful, apparently, and apprehending this dude in a drive

(51:08):
by shooting on Sycamore Street. So anyway, I just wanted
to point that out. We have Christopher Smithman on the line,
I believe, Hey.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Christopher, Hey Mike, how are you doing this morning? Of course,
I totally agree with you about the substations, Yeah, and
the locations of where they were located, and then even
how it all went down, you know, kind of like
the in the Dark, the Republican judges were locked out,

(51:37):
and you know, this decision was made to close them,
and it kind of broadsided most of the judges down there.
So I don't know even why that decision was.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Made, but it was made because what I've got here
in front of me, I had to scramble. I just
have an article that says they're going to vote on Thursday,
so I assume they voted to get rid of them,
which is one of the stupid But it's things I've
ever heard of.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Absolutely it was, And what it does is it just
continues to undermine, you know.

Speaker 8 (52:09):
Public services.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Yep, you know.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
It feels like a drum beat, Mike Allen. Where every
time we turn around, there are people that are doing
things that are supporting criminals and not the priority of
protecting law abid the citizens. And I think we're seeing
that kind of trend, and I'm not exaggerating all across
the United States of America. So why would you shut
something down that's working.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
I don't never make sense. I don't know, you know,
I'd like to be able to ask those judges who
voted for doing that, what were there reasons, or you know,
if there are reasons that are written down somewhere, it's
probably public record. But it's just the debacle. When I
heard that Christopher on the newscast right before I started
talking to you, I thought, wait a minute, we talked

(52:54):
about that on this show a while back. But anyway,
getting down to the main issue, here. You know, crime
continues to kind of run rampant in the city of Cincinnati.
We've got that shooting that we just talked about three
hundred block of Sycamore Street. Then you've got, of course
the shootout at the Ok Corral down there on the

(53:16):
Fountain Square, and now it looks like the blame is
going to be heaped on our police chief. Your thoughts
on all of that, Christopher.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
Well, crime is on the ballot. I can tell you
no matter where we walk and whatever door we talk to,
whether and I'm going to name some of these neighborhoods
that we've been in. So whether it's Bond Hill, Rolls
on our Evingston or Kennedy Heights, the message is the
same from Grandma, Grandpa, those middle aged people that have
raised their children, they paid off their house, equity in

(53:49):
their home is their number one investment, and they're concerned
about coming out of their house and being robbed. And
so whether we were there, or whether we were in
Hyde Park or Mount lookout Right, or whether we were
in Westwood or Price Hill, the message is the same.
Crime is the number one issue that people are concerned about. Mike, Yes,

(54:11):
And what has happened is the mayor's drum beat is perception, perception,
it's not your reality. Right, And then we turn on
the TV. I'm gonna show you where I'm going with
my logic. Here is we see a shootout on two
occasions right around our core Fountain Square, one off the
Fountain Square, one on the Fountain Square right. And then

(54:33):
you see the going to your question. Here you see
the mayor who has said it's our perception crime is down,
make the decision to fire the police chief right before
the election. While he's telling her you're doing a great job,
meaning if crime is down, you're in the campaign in

(54:54):
both debates and you're going after your opponent, Corey Bowman
saying you really don't know what you're talking about. Crime
is really down. Our stats are telling that. That meant
that the person who was at the top, which is
our chief, Chief Fiji, from his perspective, was doing a
great job. Why would you be terminating her at this
time right before an election? Number two, just from a

(55:16):
humanity perspective, and I just want to say this to
Chief Fiji, who I hope is listening, and I hope
that her family that they're listening to Neville family. This
is a family that has dedicated their life to law
enforcement like like no other family. Almost I'm exaggerating, but
there's a lot of great It's a wonderful family.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Christopher. I didn't mean to interrupt you, but I want
to speak to that too, because you are so so right,
all of them going back to their father, Gary Neville,
who was a great guy. But anyway, I just wanted
to make sure that came in.

Speaker 15 (55:49):
No.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
I think I think it's important because he's he's crapping
on a family that's given their life to the city
right in this area area of law enforcement, and you're
acting like she's trash. And so what really blows my
mind is they'd call her back from a chiefs conference,

(56:10):
meaning she's in Denver at conference. Why wouldn't you wait
until she got back to have this discussion. You call
her back like you're the principal and she's being called
to the principal's office. She's around all of her peers.
It had to be incredibly embarrassing for her. Why would
you treat a family that's given so much? And I'm
I'm gonna answer that question. It's not rhetorical. It's because

(56:32):
this mayorage from Dayton. This mayor doesn't understand the Neville family.
He doesn't understand what he has done. He doesn't understand
the west side of town. And even if people were
questioning how the chief was doing the job, they would
never on the west side want her treated the way
she's being treated. And if he was from Cincinnati, if

(56:52):
he had gone to a high school in Cincinnati, he
would understand those details. So this is going to hurt
him in the upcoming election on the west side of town.
And I want to you know, westsiders are loyal. Again.
They might have been saying, they might have been saying, hey,
we're concerned about the direction that the chief was going in,
but there's no way they want to treated the way

(57:15):
this mayor and this manager is treating Chief Fiji. At
our end by saying this, she was only doing what
she was directed to do by the mayor, by the
city manager, and by Irish rolling meanings. They have a
consultant in there that is telling her be soft on crime.
We're worried about the babies. We got to do the

(57:35):
collaborative agreement as if as if we're under federal oversight,
and that is in conflict with doing proactive policing, which
it is not, meaning we have to do proactive policing
while we're doing community based policing. Unfortunately, they pushed the
chief into that corner because the manager had the power
to fire her. Now she's hired one of the most

(57:58):
prominent attorneys, Chris his law firm. Yes, he is no joke.
A lot of people do not understand that she is
going to get paid a lot of money, just like
Chief Washington, the fire chief Cool they also fired in
the most grotesque way.

Speaker 9 (58:12):
Both of these Both of these.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Stories tell you, in my opinion, Mike Allen, how dysfunctional
city Hall is that they're not able to manage the
basic personnel of our city.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
Yep, you are so right about that, Christopher. I don't
know if you and I talked about this. There was
a thing called City Issue five. I'm thinking it was
twenty something years ago. What it was before the Issue five,
the chief of police had civil service protection and it
wasn't a deal where you know, the mayor can pick

(58:46):
up the phone and say Chief, I want you to
do this, this and this. Now I know they tried
to do that during that time, and the chief just
kind of said, go to hell. Well, with the passage
of Issue five, that was gone, and instead of being
a law enforcement official, she becomes a law for law
enforcement official and a political actor. And I just wonder

(59:12):
if there'd be any any interest in anyone taking another
look at that and perhaps reversing it, because I'm telling
you right now, if that were still in place, that
the chief had the civil service protection, we wouldn't be
talking about her getting drummed out.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
Now. First, Mike Allen, you're right on point, and there
are great parts to Issue five, So let me say
that from my perspective, But I think this is a
great opportunity for us to revisit Issue five, which is
what I hear you say, because it is personality driven.

Speaker 8 (59:47):
If you get a great mayor.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
In there, like a Charlie Luken or a John Cranley
as an example, right, and I'm gonna have some fun
with you like a Christopher Smitherman, You're not gonna have something.
You're not gonna have somebody who's try to undermine law enforcement. Okay, However,
what I here's the penicillin that I plan to put forward.
So you brought a problem, I'm going to share with you.

(01:00:09):
What I think the solution is. What I want to
do is bring a constitutional amendment, Charter amendment to Issue
five that says the mayor, the city manager cannot terminate
the police chief or fire chief without seven members of council.
So I want I want just the way we treat
the city manager. We can't fire the city manager without

(01:00:31):
the consent of the Board of Directors the nine members
of council. I do not want the city manager to
be able to terminate the fire chief or the police
chief without the consent of seven members of council, which
will require a charter amendment, which I plan to lead.
I think that will clean it up. I don't think
that this chief right now would not have been called

(01:00:53):
back a from a Denvers conference. I also would clean
up where we have chief watching. That most likely is
going to cost us one to two to five million dollars.
That's coming. Chris Finny, his law firm, has warned that lawsuit,
they've worn, the appeal, they've gotten summary judgment. This is

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just a matter of time before the public cares about
Chief Washington and how they drug his name through the mud,
just like they're doing. They're trying to do here with
Chief Fiji. I've had my questions about how some of
the decisions that Chief Fiji has made, But it doesn't
mean that I don't support her. It doesn't mean that
I don't like her. If I saw Chief Fiji right now,

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I give her a big hug, I tell her I
support you. I do not think they've treated her well here,
and by the way, she's going to get a great
severance because of how they've treated her and having her
come back from Denver. Just anybody out there who's a professional,
think you're at the greatest professional conference of your life.
You're around all your peers, and somebody says nationally through

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the newspaper, you got to come back to Cincinnati.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
To be fired.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
That had to be humiliating for her, and the Neville
family didn't deserve that, Like Allen, and I pray to
God that Westsiders are listening to what I'm saying. I
don't care whether you're a Democrat, you're a Republican, you're
an independent like me, or you're a charter right. This
family didn't deserve it. You don't give thirty forty years
of your life to the city and then have a

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city manager and a mayor, particularly a mayor who's not
even from Cincinnati, come and treat this family like that.
Oh my goodness, it's just it's horrific to me.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
This whole thing sounds like a scapegoating situation where you know,
the mayor's well, you know, we didn't get good results
under this chief, so I spearheaded the effort to get
rid of the one we have, and it all falls
on her, and it's just not fair. But anyway, it's
not fair.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
And by the way, let's remind the public that our
police department and our fire department is command driven. So
now what they've also done is they've undermined the police
department so bad that police officers, as I have this conversation,
don't know who to take orders from. Yeah, right, because

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they've left this vacuum. And this is what this administration
does again. It's like taking out the general. And she's
still the chief, right, But the reality of it is,
you know that her formal power has been taken from her,
and now people are trying to figure out, well, who's
the chief and who do we take orders from? Well,
guess what that puts everybody's life on the line.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Right, and that's what concerns me that this mayor again,
who kept telling his opponent, you don't have what experience?
You don't have experience. He kept saying that, Mike, you
don't have experience. Guess what. I will take common sense
over experience any day. And common sense isn't common.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
Absolutely, I like that. I never heard that one. Hey,
we only have a couple minutes left, Christopher, I just
wanted to kind of maybe get a little kind of
closing argument from you on voting in the election, because
early voting is already started.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Well, I'm hoping that that our city will think about
not voting for nine people for city council. That's so important.
We have a nine x system. I would only vote
for four or five people in the field that you want.
So there might be twenty five or twenty four, twenty
three candidates that are out here running, Find four or
five of them you like, and vote for them and stop.

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That makes your ballot more powerful. Number two, I would say,
think about all the things that are going on right now,
whether it's whether it's snow removal, potholes, these low level
things that are important to the daily lives, the quality
of life, of all fifty two neighborhoods, whether you're talking
about Hyde Park and the development that went bad there
because council wasn't listening, including the mayor or, this notion

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of connect communities, this legislation of zoning that really undermined
all fifty two neighborhoods. Again, council and the mayor weren't listening.
But crime is the number one issue. We can't do development.
People can't have home values going higher if we don't
feel faith. And what I see right now is a
is a is a council and a mayor who are

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more interested in protecting the criminal elements of our society,
including our judges, not the prosecutors, and not the cops.
The cops are arresting, the prosecutors are trying to prosecute,
and the judges are letting them out. So there's a
we have a broken system, but we have we have
a body of nine collectively, not individually collectively, and a

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mayor who have a bigger emphasis on protecting criminals than
protecting us, the citizens of law by the citizens. And
there are a lot more of us because the criminals
are a very very small element. So elect four or
five people Mike Allen, and my conclusion here that will
will that will support the police department and our fire department,

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that will not talk about defunding and reimaginating, reimagination of
our law enforcement and people that can get behind and
support our officers. Remember the officer who shot the unarmed,
the officer who shocked the young man running from the
vehicle from a stolen vehicle, and then the father killing
the sheriff the next day. We still have not heard

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from council or the mayor. I mean, these things are happening,
and they're undermining the morale of our police department as
they're out here just trying to do their job to
keep us safe. So I'm asking you to vote for Smithlman.
Give me one of those four or five votes out
there public. We can change this together. But don't send
me there by myself. You know, there's a lisz Keeping
out there running. There's a lind Of Matthews out there running.

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There's a good out there who's running. There's a dree
House out there running. There's a leader Lakeda Cole out there.
They're running. They're Democrats, Republicans, Charter Rights, independence that are
out there running that we can just do better as
the city. This is not about who Trump is and
national politics. This election is about us and our safety.
I think people should vote like their lives.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
Hey, we're out of time, Christopher. I really appreciate it,
and we'll talk to you again soon.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Thank you. People can follow me at vote Smitherman.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
Okay, thanks Roving, all right, thank you. All right. Hey,
we do have to take a break for the news,
but when we get back, we're going to talk about
national politics with independent political analyst Kevin Burton, and we'll
do that when we get back. Mike Allen, seven hundred WLW.
This is Jeff for Tri State Men's Health, where we've
successfully treated thousands of men for News Radio seven hundred WLW.

(01:07:28):
Mike Allen, Saturday midway our three third and final hour. Well,
we talked to local politics with Christopher Smithman. Let's talk
some national politics. What's going on out there, what about
the congressional battle in the Supreme Court, Trump's biggest win

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in the Mideast This week, we're going to talk to
Kevin Burton, who is an independent political analyst. Kevin, thanks
so much for joining us this morning.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
Mike, thanks having me as always my pleasure.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
Okay, Supreme Court and the whole battle over redistricting and
all that. Where do you see that going and how
will it affect the races?

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
Well? First off, congratulations to all.

Speaker 16 (01:08:14):
Lawyers on their billable hours number one undefeated.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
Always, so congratulations to all.

Speaker 16 (01:08:22):
The big firms. It does look like they're going to
strike down section two.

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
Of the voting right back.

Speaker 16 (01:08:29):
So what that means is essentially that you can reshape
the maps, but be careful for what you wish for
is my only thing, because it might help you today,
but it's.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
Going to hurt you tomorrow.

Speaker 16 (01:08:41):
And a great example of this is straight ballid voting
in Kentucky.

Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
Kentucky.

Speaker 16 (01:08:47):
You know the Democrats many years ago loved straight ballid
voting tickets. Well, when the tide shifted. Now they can't
win any elections here. Besides Andy forsheer to be careful
for what you wish for, in reality it's going to
gain I really hate both sides because listen, if you
want to do it after the census like it's always

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been done, it's fair, but you can't pick up the
ball and change the change.

Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
The rules in the middle of the game.

Speaker 16 (01:09:13):
And both sides are doing it California, New.

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
York, Texas, now the South.

Speaker 16 (01:09:18):
Like play the game, you can't change it in the
middle of the game, but they are. Every every side
is going to So it's going to be really interesting
because all these congressional maps. Usually at this time, you
have a pretty good indicator. What's it's called the cook reports.
People give like plus five plus seven that basically tells

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you in the last presidential election how much they won
by you start kind of setting up the maps. Well,
if they throw out the maps and throw all new maps,
which it looks like almost every state is going to
do this, for your consultants and for your candidates, it
changes everything because you don't know what you're running in.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
When will they finally know something on that and be
able to intelligently, you know, look at it and make
predictions that'll come down to the wire. I guess what
it is too late?

Speaker 16 (01:10:11):
Well, and that's that's and that is the other question,
you know. So if the Supreme Court rules sooner than later,
then it has to go to all the states where
they have to pass you know, legislation has to pass
new maps. So I mean it's going to come down
to the wire. But Let's be real. The only time

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either side really cares is when it affects them. So
they'll get it done both sides in California and New York, Texas.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
They'll get it done well.

Speaker 16 (01:10:44):
But it just changes everything from fundraising, sure, the strategy
because you don't know how they're going to cut it. Listen,
kerry Mandering has always been a part of the game,
but it's always after the census. You know, you can't
pick up your ball and run when you don't like
the rules. You got to play by them.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
I agree. I couldn't agree with you more. It would
be nice if we could find some kind of vehicle
where both sides are happy and we don't have to
go through this nonsense every ten years. But I don't
know what that would be, and I'm not optimistic and
anybody will figure it out.

Speaker 16 (01:11:20):
No, And what I'm also worried about is the long
term effects, because now you've kind of set precedents that
you can just change it whenever you feel like, and the.

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
House that is going to become almost more and more.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
Like you know.

Speaker 16 (01:11:35):
The great thing is is when you have someone from
a red state or a blue state who's the opposite
party because it gives you know, it shows you, hey,
the state is not monolithic. But when with all these changes,
you're going to have, you know, all states be blue,
all states be red, and you're going to lose the

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common sense voter, the common since congress person, and we
need them now more than ever.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
Let me ask you this, I mean, kind of duvetailing
off that conversation, would you care to venture or make
any guests on the midterm congressional elections. Republicans going to
keep the House? Are they going to lose it? And again,
having said that, knowing that the habit is in the
history is the party in power in the President's office,

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in the White House always loses.

Speaker 16 (01:12:30):
What do you think generally, yes, they do lose twenty
four to twenty five seats. But if you're rearranging the
whole order, I can't make a production because I don't
know if California, when they pass it, are they going
to make every single seat a solid blue? So you know,
it can't give a prediction right now.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
No, I get it. I get it. Well, it'll make
election night interesting, I guess. Let me ask you, We're
still I don't know what day it is. Somebody's keeping
count maybe day ten, twelve whatever of the government shut down.
And that's another one, Kevin, You would think that they
would be able to find a way to not make

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this just so crappy like it is. Now, my question
to you is who's winning and well, we all, I think,
are losing on it. But what party is winning on
that issue? What party is losing and why?

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
So that's a very interesting thing. So this is the first.

Speaker 16 (01:13:28):
Time that we've had a government shut down where all
three you know, the House, the Senate, and the President
are all the same. But there was a memo from
the White House that came out yesterday that's showing that, yes,
Republicans are still being blamed for the you know, the shutdown,

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but now it's forty four percent to thirty eight percent,
where you know, Democrats have had their net favorabilities cut
by seventy eight points. So you know, Romp and his
team are thinking that if they just keep prolonging.

Speaker 6 (01:14:03):
This, that the Democrats are going to it's going to get.

Speaker 16 (01:14:06):
To a break even. And if it's a break even,
then that's a win for the Republicans because you know,
this is always about that seven, eight, ten, twelve points,
And I know, people get tired of polling and all that,
but that's seven to twelve.

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
Points, whatever it is.

Speaker 16 (01:14:24):
Those are the people who swing elections, and that's who
you're fighting for right now, if you're trying to fly
right now. I know TSA is a nightmare, so we'll
probably change who you would vote for. But you know,
the government shut down. I mean, I think there's certain
things that I wish that both sides could be adults
and be like, you know, we need TSA. We don't

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want another tragedy to happen. But that would require them
to be grown ups, and they're not going to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
That ain't going to happen. I'm looking here at the
Real Clear Politics average of polls. Democratic party favorability unfavorable,
twenty six no way mate favorability is thirty three percent
thirty three six percent favorable, fifty nine point eight percent unfavorable.

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Have you ever seen numbers uh that low for a
political party with.

Speaker 16 (01:15:19):
A question such as this, I mean, I guess the
only other time you could probably say this was daring
uh W in the House in Crisis of two thousand
and eight. You know, Democrats, and we've talked about this
before in your show. They are just so aimless because

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they built their whole party on this guy sucks vote
for me instead of what do you stand for? You know,
Mindannie AOC may not like their politics, but you know
what they stand for, and that's what voters want now.
They want authenticity, even if they disagree with you. They
want someone who's authentic, and Trump has brought that to politics.

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And frankly, you know, they're kind of going through what
Republicans went through a decade ago. You have Chuck Schumer,
who was so clueless, out of touch leading the party,
and you know, you're kind of seeing this wave that
it's coming, regardless if they wanted or not, but the
establishment is going to be pushed out. I mean, you know,

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no prime example that's better in Maine, where there's this upstart.

Speaker 3 (01:16:30):
Planter guy who's a oyster person who's.

Speaker 16 (01:16:33):
You know, gone really viral, and who do they get
a seventy seven year old governor to run in a
primary against him? You know, Democrats are just literally doing
exactly what Republicans did before twenty sixteen, and it's a
battle for essentially the soul of the party. And frankly,
it's kind of like bonding them out for an NBA team.

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They need to tank, clean house and then bring someone
else then because their favorabilities are terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
No, I hear you, Hey, I wanted to ask you
this to Trump's big win earlier in the week at
the Mid East peace deal. In my humble opinion, whether
you like the man or not, a huge deal and
getting political about it something that in my opinion, I
think a lot of others, there is no way on
God's green earth Joe Biden or Kamala Harris could have

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pulled that off. But my question is how does that
and it's personal to Trump, but how does that affect
that the favorability of the party's potentially affect the midterms?
I'm guessing not a lot. How does it affect a
political climate? I guess is the question?

Speaker 16 (01:17:42):
Well, yeah, there's a lot of So. First off, you know,
Joe Biden and them did have a proposal ten months ago.
It was very similar to this. It didn't go anywhere,
but Trump did get it through, and regardless of what
you think of him, this.

Speaker 3 (01:17:54):
Is his biggest win. Sure it is.

Speaker 16 (01:17:57):
Now the question is will this actually hold? That is
a question that is beyond every single person no one knows,
but it is a major win. I mean, regardless of
what you think of him, you know, I know he's
been campaigning for the Nobel Peace Prize. It's not a
kid's trophy at a soccer team.

Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
But if this.

Speaker 16 (01:18:17):
Holds, he should get it next year. He should if
if there are no more deaths, he should get the
Nobel Peace Prize period.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
I didn't even think about that. I know he didn't
get it this year, but the person who did get
it was from a South American country who she dedicated
it to Trump, So I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:18:37):
Exactly.

Speaker 16 (01:18:38):
Like, listen, if this holds there's no more killing, yes, like,
regardless of what you think of him. And it's really
ironic that his term this time, his foreign policy is
actually viewed higher than his economic policy. Why it's the
complete inverse of his first term. His domestic policies are
actually underwater. Why his you know, foreign policy is actually

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viewed people are very helped, you know, very happy with it.
Instead of Teddy Roosevelt, you know, walks off to carry
a big stick. Trump is chewing gum, yelling and carrying
a big stick.

Speaker 6 (01:19:14):
He's getting it done. But I understand what you're saying
there is there is a peace policy. Regardless of what
you think of him, the peace policy is there. He
got NATO to spend five percent. He's helping Ukraine. So
like all the complaints of his foreign policy, like you
might not like the way it's done, but you gotta
tip the cap.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
Yep, no question done. Hey, I gotta ask if Shared
Brown versus Vivek Ramaswami, I couldn't find any polling on that.
I gotta think Vivek is quite a bit ahead your
thoughts on that to share and have any chance at
all pulling that off.

Speaker 16 (01:19:50):
Well, Shared's running for Senate. That's not against not against
the back, you know, share it against heus said it
will be very interesting two three or politicians. So what
Bernie Marino was really able to do the last time
was basically say share it. You've been a career politician

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your whole life. Well, John Heathstaid's the exact same thing.
So you're gonna take away that kind of key element.
So it's gonna be a dog fight for back. I mean,
he's walking into.

Speaker 3 (01:20:25):
The governor's office.

Speaker 16 (01:20:26):
There's not really much debate about that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
Does it look like the Democratic candidate is going to
be Amy acting, so.

Speaker 16 (01:20:34):
There, you know, so Amy props to her her team.

Speaker 3 (01:20:38):
They've been working very very hard.

Speaker 16 (01:20:41):
Tim Ryan, who has ran I don't know how many times,
is looking like he might jump back in, which it's
kind of a perfect encapsulation of the Democratic Party right
now that you have someone who's a fresh blood new
in that and then someone oldys jumping back in.

Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
Right, it's an uphill battle.

Speaker 16 (01:21:00):
I mean, besides, Ted Strickland went with the last time
Ohio elected a Democratic governor I think.

Speaker 3 (01:21:11):
Which was before my time.

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
I know.

Speaker 3 (01:21:15):
So, And you know, it's just interesting because.

Speaker 16 (01:21:17):
Governors races, voters vote different, and like you look at
a state like Kentucky where they've only had three Republican
governors since World War Two, governor races are different. So
you know that's gonna win. But on the Senate race,
it's gonna be I would say, he said, the little
favorability is more favorite to win because of the state's

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demographic Sure, but it is a midterm year and Sherry Brown,
you know what is he like seventeen and one running
elections something like that, So.

Speaker 3 (01:21:50):
It's gonna be a yeah, it's gonna be a dogfight.

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
Let me ask you this. We've got a couple of questions,
laffed city council election day coming up, lots of things
going on the city, mostly with respect to crime. I
don't know about you, but I kind of think this
is a year that perhaps strong independence like a Christopher
Smithman or you know, uh, someone else who's out there

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working that hard and you know, everything on the table.
Christopher's a friend, but do you think that he's got
a shot at punching through? And about the mayor's race,
I mean, is is the mayor pure of all gonna
win that thing?

Speaker 16 (01:22:31):
Yes, Thatshab's gonna win. Last regard, he's gonna win by
fifteen twenty points. The numbers are what the numbers are.
I mean, you guys got to remember that Harris won
the city of Cincinnati basically sixty five to thirty five.
So there's only like twenty five percent registered like Republicans,

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and so all the Republicans who used to live in
Cincinnati has moved to either northern Kentucky or the subs,
which has made those areas rider, but has made the
city bluer now.

Speaker 3 (01:23:05):
To Smitherman's point.

Speaker 16 (01:23:06):
Smother Man has a track record in the Trump era
of being the only candidate to punch through the blue
wall right in twenty seventeen. One thing that Democrats have
to kind of worry about is there's lots of like
legacy names running this time, right. So you have a
smither Man, you have a Keyting, you have a dree House,

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you have a Mallory running right. So when people go
to vote, they're going to see those names.

Speaker 3 (01:23:33):
And it's not that.

Speaker 16 (01:23:36):
They're not going to vote for all Democrats, but they're
going to see those legacy names and be like, well,
these are some Democrats.

Speaker 3 (01:23:42):
Maybe I want to vote for them and not be endorsed.

Speaker 16 (01:23:46):
So I think it's very possible and probably probable that
you're going to see seven to eight Democrats of the
Hamilton County Democratic Party, people who are already on council
get re elected.

Speaker 3 (01:23:58):
But I think smither And.

Speaker 16 (01:24:00):
If I was a betting man, I think some other
men's going to pull through. I think the Keating is
going to be very fascinating. She's the one who I'm
going to watch a lot, because you know, she.

Speaker 3 (01:24:10):
Finished just outside the bubble a light time.

Speaker 16 (01:24:15):
But it'll be really you know, the machines that are
in play, they do a really good job of turning
out their voters. And for a city election, it's so
low of a turnout it just is well, I guess
you want to look at like fifteen percent.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
Sure bottom line as we shall see. Kevin, hope we
can call on you before the election. That really appreciates
you spending time with us.

Speaker 3 (01:24:39):
Mike, thank you as always.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
Okay, my friend, thank you all right. That is independent
political analyst Kevin Burton, always good to get his thoughts
on things. Hey, the next segment here from eleven thirty
to noon, no guests. So lines are ope and seven
four nine seven. The big one are the numbers. If
you want to be a part of.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
It, visualization your wallet, stuff to the bridge.

Speaker 1 (01:25:10):
We got some people want to be heard. I'm gonna
get to that in a second. But I have to
mention this last night and I didn't watch the game.
I thought about it. Dodgers versus Brewers. Winner goes to
the World Series, loser goes home. The Dodgers won. That's
not the big deal. Show. Hey, O'tani put on a

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show that I don't think baseball has ever seen before. Well,
he actually did set a record. I don't know that
they'll ever see it again. Of course, he goes both ways.
He pitches, and he bats three home runs, and then
his pitching, he goes six innings, gives up two hits,

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gets ten strikeouts. So, like I said, Dodgers go to
the World Series, the Brewers go home. I'm telling you,
I like baseball and I follow it. If anyone would
have ever asked me before Otani if they thought somebody
could pull that off, I'd say, you're crazy, you know,

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just for the heck of it too, Babe. Ruth pitched
for I don't know, probably about four years, beginning his
baseball career with the Red Sox. Of course, he got
traded to the Yankees. I just looked just to see
if there be anything even close to that. He had
a ninety four and ninety four wins forty two losses

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record pitching. But when he got to the Yankees, maybe
he'd pitch once or twice a year. But my goodness,
what Otani did last night, I really so much wish
I would have watched that, because that would have been exciting.
He's in a class all of his own. I mean,
like I said, I don't think anybody would have thought

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that would have happened. Okay, let's get back to the phones.
Let me talked to Tim in Florence. Hey, good morning, Tim.
I'm good, I'm good.

Speaker 12 (01:27:11):
What you got Well, I just want to bring up
one issue we discussed before about Kruse chefs sit in
and take the country over and never fire a shot
because it strive from with him. Yes, which that's pretty
much what we have today, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:23):
Yeah, you know what I mean. I'd have to say
a very good chance of it.

Speaker 12 (01:27:31):
Because I have one other point he wanted to make. Yeah,
Liberals or Democrats are like hostridges. They stick their head
in the sand, sort of oblivissed everything around them, and
then our party puts it for the sundone shot on them,
if you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
I do, Tim. I appreciate the call. Thank you, have
a great day, you too. Thanks. You know his point
about and I didn't know that. Yeah, Kruse chefs said it. Uh,
you know, we're going to take you over without firing
a shot. I well, the Soviet Union's not going to
take us over. They're out the program, they're gone. But

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the left, I mean the strides that they've made, the
advances they've made in the entertainment industry in social media.
Then of course that the sewer, the cesspool that is
today's modern college campus. You got to wonder if some
of that might be playing out at some point. Okay,

(01:28:27):
who's been on the longest. Let me talk to Louise
and Marie mont. Hey, good morning, Louis.

Speaker 15 (01:28:32):
Hi Mike, Louise here again. Yes, I just want to
touch on several points of the maid during this program.
First of all, Mike, I was always perplexed during the
past few years about why all of a sudden our
country is anti israel I mean, and then when you
see the pulling from New York that even the Jewish

(01:28:53):
people are going to vote for this guy up there.
I don't even want to say his name, right, So
it hit me, Mike, It finally hit me.

Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
The change is.

Speaker 15 (01:29:02):
Because Trump derangement syndrome. If Trump was pro Muslim, they
would be on the reverse side. Oh yeah, you know,
the Jewish people have always been held in high esteem
and finance in Hollywood everywhere, and now the tide has changed,
and that I believe it's now because of Trump's position

(01:29:27):
of being pro Israeli and then these college campus Mike,
first of all, these are paid people. I mean I
confront an Antifa years ago before I even knew what
they were down the Fountain Square. They are all these college,
good looking kids that are paid. I confront of them,
I made a lift of the mask up. It's all

(01:29:48):
about Trump. They're the opposite of Trump. And when it
hit me this week is when that idiot George Clooney
and his most Lebanese wife decided to leave the country.
Amen on that she's a Muslim and what bothers me here, Mike,
and I don't want to sound like approved. I am
an old lady the Muslims. If these people are really

(01:30:10):
pro Muslim, why are they all dressing like I don't
know if I could say hook on the line, but
I am the women dress them modestly, including George Clooney's wife,
who herself is a Muslim. So if they truly believe
and what they're supposedly saying they believe, they be modestly dressed.
I'm not saying they have to wear the whole garb,

(01:30:30):
but they wouldn't be dressed so immodestly when they're protesting.

Speaker 1 (01:30:35):
No, I hear you, hey, Louise, I got a lot
of calls. I'm gonna respond to your call, but I
appreciate you calling. Thank you, all right, you know what
I mean. She hit the nail on the head there.
I do not I've said this a million times on
this show. I do not understand the rise in anti Semitism.
I understand how it's happening, why it's happening, but it

(01:30:59):
is something that in my lifetime, and yeah, we learned,
I mean even in grade school about the Holocaust, but
I just I don't get it. I really don't get it.
In her point, it's tied into Trump derangement syndrome. There's
probably something to that, but anti Semitism is not something

(01:31:20):
that I thought just about everybody else the United States
of America would be dealing with in the year twenty
twenty five. It just absolutely floors me. Okay, let's see,
let's talk to Pete in Whitehall. Hey, Pete, Hey, good.

Speaker 9 (01:31:34):
Mor sir, hey.

Speaker 17 (01:31:35):
I wanted to follow up on the awesome mister Smitherman.

Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
Yes, and he.

Speaker 17 (01:31:39):
Comment he made, uh that on common sense. A beautiful,
striking woman told me one day that common sense has
become a superpower.

Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
That is that is that is I haven't heard it.

Speaker 17 (01:31:54):
Better put than that that the left has no shame,
they have no account of and they have no plan
to create a better America. It's only tear it down,
Thank you very much, Mike, okay, program.

Speaker 1 (01:32:08):
Thanks Pete. Yeah, you know what, And that makes perfect sense.
I mean, the common sense is at a premium, and
all the Democrats do is want to tear things down.
You know, I would challenge someone give me three three
initiatives that the left slash Democrat Party the same thing

(01:32:31):
have tried to get through in the last three years.
It's nothing other than hate Trump, hate Trump, hate Trump,
try to obstruct him at every angle. And you know,
the numbers and the Republican numbers on favorability aren't all
that hot either, but they're a heck of a lot
better than the Democrats. So I think he makes some

(01:32:54):
good points. And man, you'd like to see some common
sense come back, but common sense in politics sometimes, unfortunately,
just don't jibe. Let's talk to Frank. Hey, Good morning, Frank.

Speaker 18 (01:33:09):
Good morning, Mike.

Speaker 10 (01:33:09):
How you doing.

Speaker 15 (01:33:10):
Cirtain.

Speaker 1 (01:33:10):
I'm good, I'm good. What you got good? I'm with you.

Speaker 18 (01:33:13):
First of all, I kicked myself that I didn't watch
that game put on assistance, saying.

Speaker 1 (01:33:19):
Can you believe that?

Speaker 18 (01:33:21):
No, those stats are like something out of a video game,
and it was just unreal.

Speaker 1 (01:33:25):
That's a good one.

Speaker 2 (01:33:26):
I like that.

Speaker 18 (01:33:27):
So listen real quick. The independent journalists that you had
on earlier, I'm not sure his name, but he does
a wonderful job.

Speaker 1 (01:33:34):
Well, he's not a journalist, he's a political analyst.

Speaker 18 (01:33:38):
That's just an analyst. Sorry, what's his name, Kevin Burton? Burton, Yeah,
he does a great job. So he made a point
that I just want to say, and you agreed with
him that I just want to like echo and stream
in the mountaintop, and that is that we need to
put something in place nationwide or more universal that just
makes more of a level playing field as far as

(01:33:59):
a portunate and drawing of districts. And I think that's something,
you know, as divisive as the country is, you know,
talk about polls pulling actually shows for most of the
major issues, the majority of the country agrees. It's just
the you know, the the extremes on each side that
are allowedest I believe, but I think most Americans that's

(01:34:20):
something that they would want. Additionally, you know, not to
go down this rabbit hole but campaign finance and fixing
that and getting all the dark money bs out of
politics is another thing that most Americans would agree on.
So you got two points that probably with bipartisan support,
you could easily pass a couple of amendments. But it's
never going to happen. It's never going to happen, and

(01:34:40):
it's because politics is as dirty as it is on
both sides, and it's a shame.

Speaker 1 (01:34:45):
So it's never it's never been this bad. It really hasn't. Frank,
it's awful. And I agree with you completely. Oh like
this budget thing, my god, couldn't they work out a
procedure where we don't have to go through this? I'm
not playing the other side on that.

Speaker 12 (01:35:04):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 18 (01:35:04):
It's like both sides of like five year old saying
I'm gonna hold my breath, like get my way. It's
it's disgusting, it's it's absurd. So I wish our politicians
were working more bipartisan fashion because there's a lot of
major issues that they could get done that could really
fix the country in positive way. But it's unfortunate that,
you know, none seem too eager to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:35:23):
You're so right about that. Thanks for the call.

Speaker 18 (01:35:25):
Frank, absolutely, thank you, sir.

Speaker 1 (01:35:28):
You have a wonderful weekend, you too, thank you. Oh
let's see, let's see, let's see. How about Tom in date?
And Hey Tom, how are you?

Speaker 13 (01:35:37):
Hey Mike, first time caller. You know, if Amy Act
is running for governor, she's got an awful lot of
goall in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, she made
all the wrong decisions about COVID, you know, making us
wear masks and shutting down businesses and recommending the genetic
COVID shot. You know, I don't think she should be

(01:35:59):
anywhere near me making decisions for the entire state. Remember
that was all for a virus that had a survival
rate of ninety nine point seven percent and an average
age of death of eighty years old. And she had
a shut down all of Ohio for that, and you
know Governor DeWine went right along with her recommendations. So
it's just terrible. And you know, the COVID shots not

(01:36:22):
only that, they've caused a lot of damage amongst people.
Right side effects. I've been tracking this unusual side effect
of these white fibrous clots and the balmers and finding
in corpses for the last four years. I was on
Gary Jeff Walker show this last Monday talking about it again.
So just one of to let your audience know that
this woman should be nowhere near running our state after

(01:36:44):
such poor decision making skills and twenty twenty one.

Speaker 1 (01:36:48):
I appreciate that. Tom, thanks for the call. I'm gonna
address it. Yeah, I mean, she's not going anywhere. She's
nobody is going to beat the vag Ramaswami and it
just st ain't happening. And uh uh, I think that
you know she's got I think she's got a primary challenge.
We were talking to mister Burton about that, but now

(01:37:10):
I can't recall. Uh there's some other Democrat that I
think wants to do it. But she or any other
Democrat for that matter, is not going to beat Ramaswami.
My goodness, he got out so early on that thing,
and he's even got two or three unions supporting him,
So I don't think we need to worry about that.

(01:37:31):
How about Mike in Columbus and then Marsha Hey, Mike.

Speaker 11 (01:37:37):
Hey, Mike, how you doing.

Speaker 1 (01:37:38):
I'm good what you got.

Speaker 11 (01:37:40):
It's a pleasure to speak with you again after all
this time. Listening to you, it would be really easy
to just parrot everything you say because I agree one
hundred percent, thank you with every perspective you have. I'm i'm,
i'm I'm a little different topic here, and that's the
National Guard situation. I'm a little perplexed why with all

(01:38:00):
the pushback that we're receiving from the mayors and the
governors of these cities that have these ridiculous crime rates,
and who President Trump wishes or has in fact sent
in guard if they want to bitch and moan about
this like they are of the opinion. And plus, if
you agree with me that the majority of people in Chicago,

(01:38:24):
or in Tennessee, in Memphis, or wherever it happens to
be where these crimes, the majority the people want the
crime eradicated. They don't care how it's done. They are
fed up with the crime. And you've got these squeaky
wheels who you know, couch out to the mayors and
the governors who are going to have this Trump derangement
syndrome and say we don't want them here, Get them

(01:38:45):
the heck out. I say take them out. I say
get them out. Don't send them into these cities that
don't want them there. Let the cities go through the
crime that we expect that they will, okay, and if
we're not afraid that we're wrong, let them go through
the crime that they're going to go through. And then
those people who haven't spoken out, but the silent majority,

(01:39:06):
are going to go to the governor and to the
mayor and say, listen, we're not going to take us anymore.
We don't care what you do. Bring in the guard,
and it'll be at that point that we prove the
point that they needed it all along and that this
is nothing more than a complicit movement against Donald Trump.
I don't understand why we're so hell bent on going

(01:39:28):
ahead and sending these troops in now. I get that
the President doesn't want to see any more death and destruction.
That was true in the Israel as well as the
Russian conflicts. But at some point you have to say,
if you're not wanted there, and all we're going to
do is have these constant rebel causes against us, say
enough is enough. We ain't going you deal with it,

(01:39:50):
have a nice day. Can you explain to me what's
wrong with that philosophy?

Speaker 1 (01:39:54):
Yeah, I've got to let you go here. Thank you, Mike.
I appreciate the call. You know what I mean. He
makes a good point. I remember in Minneapolis. I guess
it was during the George Floyd Bryants. My god, that town,
A good chunk of it was burned down pretty badly.
And you know, I don't know. I guess that would

(01:40:16):
be one option to say to the cities, you take
care of your own self here and forget about any
help from US. I guess my thought is, what kind
of governor, what kind of mayor, what kind of elected
official would argue against help with crime? Why would you
do that? I mean, it's going to directly benefit the

(01:40:39):
citizens your constituency. But that's the state of the Democratic
Party now. They don't want the increased protection. But it's
going to be interesting to see all this plays out.
That question, I think is before the Supreme Court, So
I guess we'll find out. Hey, i'm out of time, Marcia.
Thank you so much for call, and I promise I'll

(01:41:01):
get to you next week if you call. Hey, I'm
out of here. But well, first of all, I want
to thank my excellent producer Liam for keeping me out
of trouble every week and Sunday night from ten to
one am. My son and I are doing Willie's national
show Coast to coast, so that's always fun. If you're up,

(01:41:22):
kind of tune us in. Mike Allen seven

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