Mike Allen Saturday Mid-Day -- 10/4/25

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
News Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen and Saturday midday.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
A beautiful Saturday morning would be a nice weekend. I'd
read the weather right.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Another short show today out of here at eleven because
of the UC Iowa State game. You see's really impressing
some people three and one and Iowa State is five
and oh their fourteenth ranks, So if you see can
knock them off, maybe they'll crack the top twenty top
twenty five.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
But before I do anything, I would be.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Remiss if I didn't think and congratulate my beloved Elder
Panthers last night beat number one in the state, the
Molar Crusaders, always a tough opponent. Elder wins the GCL
South title for the first time in a while. This week,
Elder was sixth in the state ratings. I don't know

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that they'll move up to one, but they should move
up quite a bit. But congratulations to the Elder Panthers.
Big victory at the pit last night. You know, I
want to talk to you for a little bit here.
Some shocking, at least shocking to me polling that I
saw this week with respect to people's opinion about socialism,

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and it's just it's hard for me to believe when
I give you these numbers that they are what they are.
But let me give them to you first and we'll
talk about it. This is Gallop, and they measured American's
opinions of various economic systems, mainly socialism. They started doing this,

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Gallup did in twenty ten, and they've done it. Let's
see repeated the question six times since then. Anyway, Democrats
and independence view capitalism less positively this year, each showing
eight percentage point declines. In twenty twenty one. For the

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first time, less than half of Democrats forty two percent,
view capitalism positively, while a slight majority of independents fifty
one percent still do. Republicans' views not unsurprisingly, about seventy
percent support capitalism. But when you get to socialism, I mean,

(02:33):
this is what really bothers me. Democrats positive view of socialism.
In twenty ten it was fifty percent. It is now
sixty six percent of Democrats view socialism positively. And it's yeah,

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sixty six percent to forty two percent.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
So and it's I don't know if I haven't.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
The numbers of among young people are even worse. It's
just it's really disheartening when you see that, and you know,
sometimes I ask myself, are we gonna be able to
dig ourselves out of this hole?

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Anyway?

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Thinking about it, it's not really surprising when you stop
to think that the indoctrination.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Begins now in grade school.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Used to be high school and then college, but it
begins in grade school now, which is not surprising when
you have a teachers union, actually two of them, who
could give one damn about students and how they're doing
at test scores. All they do is get involved in
political activity. Randy Weingartner, I think she's the president of

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the American Federation of Teachers. I have never seen, and
I've been doing this for a while, I have never
seen a public statement from her that said, well, you know,
I'm really shocked about the test scores. We're going down
the tubes and all of that. Never but boy, she's
there when you want to talk about radical leftist politics.

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So it's really, I guess, no surprise that these numbers
are what they are. These kids they don't know what
socialism is, they have no idea, and you know, their
professors when you get to the college level, probably high
school two are filling their heads with a bunch of
crap on it. Here's another just a brief part of

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a poll May twenty twenty five Cato Institute you gov.
That poll found that sixty two percent of Americans aged
eighteen to twenty nine have.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
A favorable view of socialism.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
So and again, to repeat what they just said, sixty
six percent of Democrats overall have a favorable.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
View of socialism.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
And I think one of the reasons is, as I
just said, they don't know what socialism is and they
never has and you know, the support of socialism in
spite of the fact that it has been tried and
it has failed in so many countries. That's the thing

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that has me and a lot of other people scratching
their head. If you want to go down the line.
I think the biggest example in my lifetime of a
failure of socialism is the Soviet Union when it collapsed
in nineteen ninety one, Thank you, Ronald Reagan. After decades

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of economic stagnation, scarcity, and political repression.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
It just collapsed of its own weight.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
So there would be an example for you, professor, if
you dare to teach your kids something like that. East
Germany which of course was a Soviet satellite. They're gone
now Germany is united. They had all kinds of economic problems.
The economy lag behind of course their neighbor then West Germany,

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and they always had shortages and a lack of freedom,
just like the USSR. That fueled dissatisfaction, which led to
the reunification in nineteen ninety. Venezuela, which was once the
wealthiest nation in South America. Their oil dependent economy collapsed
under socialist policies of Hugo Chavez and Nicholas Maduro. Hyperinflation,

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severe shortages of food and medicine, mass emigration. So probably
the best example, going along with the Soviet Union. Ninety
miles off of the Florida Coast is Cuba. Since the
revolution in nineteen fifty nine, Wen Castro got Batista out

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of office, it's been a one party socialist state period.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Now.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
The pended for years upon the Soviet Union to help
them out with food, medicines, things like that. When the
Soviet Union collapsed, and actually a couple of years before that,
they cut them off, and now they are on their own.
And from what everything that I have seen and read,

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I mean, they are really struggling. So you know, that's
another one. Professor, maybe you can teach your students about that.
But I ain't going to hold my breath. But again,
it's all about indoctrination, in doctrinating these young people to
believe that socialism is a good alternative to capitalism, which

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is just nonsense.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
And I got this.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
From AI view supporting me in doctrination claim, but I
agree with it. And you know, just for the hell AI,
about ninety percent of the time I find that they
give it to you, right, They do give you both
sides of which I like, but they've been pretty good.
But anyway, they go on to say, some commentators, often

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from conservative and libertarians think tanks, attribute growing support for
socialism to what they see g listen to this as
a leftist bias in education in the media. Do you
think that exists leftist bias and education in the media.
I mean, that's one of the reasons why they talk

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when they talk about indoctrination. The kids suck it up
and they don't get the true story. With respect to
the media, there are some that argue that young people
receive a bias view of economic systems from the media.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
I think that is absolutely true.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Education critics claim the education system from high school through
college promotes leftist ideas and fails to provide a balanced
economic education. I'm going to read that sentence again because
that is one thousand percent true. Promotes leftist ideas and
fails to provide a balanced economic education. Lack of soft

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lack of economic understanding. Critics also point to polls showing
that many young people cannot accurately define socialism or free enterprise,
suggesting their support is based on a superficial understanding rather
than a deep knowledge of economic principles. Again, that one

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is one thousand and one percent true. So I mean,
that's what you get, and that's why I think those
numbers as are as high as they are, and it
should frighten people. I mean, you've got the situation with Mondami.
He's going to be New York City's next mayor. You

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got Minneapolis, the vice president of their city council is
a socialist. So you know, again with respect to Mandami,
he promises to make workers' lives better by raising the
minimum wage to thirty bucks an hour. You know, I
want people to make as much money as they can,
fast food people, whatever. But that's unworkable. I mean, it's popular,

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but it's just dumb and it's unrealistic. Last year, you
remember this, California demanded that fast food workers be paid
at least twenty dollars an hour. Yeah, of course the
unions and the politicians cheered that, but and smart people
knew this. When the companies have to pay beginners even

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twenty dollars an hour, they employ fewer people. Pizza Hut
they had to lay off twelve hundred people because of
it over the next year, while other states add a job.
Listen to this, California fast food workers lost jobs.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Eighteen thousand of them lost jobs.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
So you know, it's a situation where young people think
it's good, but when you apply it, maybe not so much. Minneapolis,
as I said, the vice president of the Minneapolis Minneapolis
City Council is a socialist.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
She has said, where has socialism? Oh?

Speaker 1 (11:22):
She was asked a question where his socialism ever worked?
She was silent and interminable nine seconds. Finally she said,
I'm doing a fine job representing my community. Question where
his socialism ever worked? Response, I'm doing a fine job
representing my community.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
There you go. I mean, this person is the vice
mayor of a big city. She doesn't know.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
George Will call Umn this to who you haven't heard
much from in a long time, he said, And a
lot of people feel like this.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
He says.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
He wants Mondami to win because every years we need
to experiment and watch it fail. You know, I'm kind
of with George Will on this. I mean nothing against
New York City, but I mean, you think about it.
He wants to give everybody free bus rides. I think
free subway rides. That's great, that's fantastic. How are you

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going to pay for it? New York like California, probably
not as bad as California. They're seeing a mass exodus
of people. So I guess if that's what he wants
and what they want, that's what they're gonna get. But
they ought to teach it. They ought to teach it properly.
They ought to teach it fairly. But I ain't holding

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my breath about that at all. Another thing that really
got under my crawl this week that I wanted to
talk to you about that is the situation with the
DHS Secretary of Christian I don't know if you saw
this or not.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
This just shows you the pettiness of the left.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
She was actually blocked from using a bathroom at an
Illinois government building while all this stuff is going on. So,
I mean, that's how petty the left can be. You know,
they're going to prevent her from using the restroom because
they don't like her. And boy, if you're watching that

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mess out in Portland, that's not getting any better, that's
only getting worse. I mean, it's just it's a bad
situation out there, and it's a situation where, you know, cops,
the Portland Police apparently are not covering over on runs
that the Ice agents have, you know, dangerous runs sometimes,

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and that runs just the antithesis of what cops do.
I mean, cops back up cops, whether it's your department
or another department. But they have been ordered by their administration,
by the mayor.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Not to do that.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
And that's not good. I mean, obviously it's not good.
It's not good for the police, it's not good for
the public. I mean, it's real simple. I don't know,
maybe it's too simple. We have a federal law that
prohibits trespassing into our country, period, full stop, and it's
been on the books for a long time, so we've

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got that law, we have an agency, a federal agency,
to enforce that law.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
That's ICE.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
And now you have a situation where cops, Portland cops,
will not go to the aid of a fellow police officer.
I know, you know, they're not called ICE agents, are
not called police officers, but they are police officers. They're
enforcing the law. That's a pretty sad state of affairs.
And I would love to talk individually it is some

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of those Portland cops and see what they think about it.
Something tells me that they're probably none too happy, because again,
it's want to rule one for being a police officer
on the street. You back up your buddies, you back
up your fellow officers. But you know, not in the
age that we're in now. I mean everything has been

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stood on its head, and watching some of that stuff
out in Portland, Antifa is rumored to be at the
bottom of it. Trump is trying to put together a
situation where a conspiracy you can charge them with a
federal conspiracy. I'm sure the Justice Department is looking at it.
But you know, when the left doesn't get what they want,

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they riot. When we don't get what we want, you
know what. We may take it to court, but we
when's the last time? When's did you ever see a
group of conservatives rioting about anything? I mean, the obvious
answer is you haven't because they don't. But again, the

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rules don't apply to many on the left.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
You know.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
I apologize for the kind of disjointed ramp this morning.
Didn't have a lot of time, But I mean, the
main thing I'm taken away from it is these young
people that are saying they support socialism. Somebody, somehow, somewhere
has got to teach them, number one, what socialism is

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and number two give them examples, the myriad examples where
it has failed. But I'm not going to hold my
breath on that anyway. That's what I think. I want
to know what you think. Seven four nine, seven thousand, one,
eight hundred, the big one are the numbers.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Mike got nine thirty nine thirty.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Six News Radio seven hundred ufter year w Mike Allen
Saturday Midday got a short show for you. As I said,
we're out of here at eleven because of the uc
Iowa State game. At ten o'clock, we're going to talk
to Attorney James Bogan. He's going to fill us in
on some really good developments on men pretending to be

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women in women's sports that's going our way. Probably ask
him two about p Diddy and the Komi indictment. And
at ten thirty the final REDS Report of the year
with davidy armbrus here. Meantime, I want to get as
many of these calls that I can. Who do we
go to first? Let's talk to Thomas in Villa Hills. Hey,

(17:36):
good morning, Thomas, Hey.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
Good morning Michael.

Speaker 5 (17:39):
Thanks for taking the call.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
My pleasure a little bit, Leary, and I want your
opinion on the House Republicans and the Senate Republicans. It
doesn't seem like they're doing much up there. I don't
see any great movements on any Trump's executive orders. I'm
kind of leery like they just kind of want the
status quote because they don't want to upset the applecart
that much, and they're more politicians than they are Republicans, And.

Speaker 5 (18:03):
I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
What do you think is going on up there?

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Well, let me ask you what would you have them do?
What are they not doing that you think they should be.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
I would have some immigration some of these executive orders
looked at turning in.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
The falls without a doubt.

Speaker 6 (18:19):
Well knocks like Trump's doing it all.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
I think.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
I think what you're saying is, let's just take immigration.
It would be better if he didn't have to do
that through executive orders, but it's not politically feasible for
him to do it at this time.

Speaker 7 (18:34):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
You know the budget. I know they're going back and
forth over.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
That, but you know, to me, that's one thing that's
real simple. The Democrats want a ton of money to
give to illegal immigrants for medical costs, and Republicans say no,
they don't want to do it.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
Well, it seems it seems to me like they almost
would want to lose the mid terms. They can go
back to status quo and not hit and much pressure
on them to solve this, and.

Speaker 6 (19:03):
They can have an excuse like, well, you know, it's.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Kind of a split House and Senate and we just can't.

Speaker 6 (19:08):
Do do what we need to do right now.

Speaker 4 (19:10):
It is a perfect opportunity for them to stand up
for the Americans and get something done here, and I
just don't see it happening from re elected representatives.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
It's kind of milk toast.

Speaker 6 (19:19):
It's kind of status quo.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
That's what I see. No, it had done very little.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
I appreciate your point of view. I mean, we do
have a majority in the House, but just barely. And
the tradition is the party in power will lose seats
two years after a presidential election. I hope that doesn't happen, obviously,
and we do have a pretty solid majority in the Senate,
not sixty votes, which would be great.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
But I understand what you're saying. I got a ton
of calls here.

Speaker 6 (19:49):
Let me each you one other thing.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
Sure, if we don't fight back at all with all
these democratic, riotous tactics and we just keep taking it,
isn't it just going to continue? Don't we have any eat,
any strength, any backbone. I'm not saying we hit the riot,
but right if we're throwing them up front, we're going
to do nothing about you know, we're not gonna write,
We're just gonna let you have your way.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
When does that stuff?

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Well, let me do this. I'll answer your question. I
appreciate your call. I got to get to some of
these other calls, though. You know, from my point of
view where I sit, I think things are going pretty
good right about now, and there's really. One reason and
one reason only for that is because our president has
a pair of you know what, he doesn't care. I mean,
he's going to do an executive order. If you don't

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like it, take it to court. If it's illegal, you know,
it'll be dealt with in the court system. So I
understand what he's saying. I mean, I'd like to see
people do more. I mean, if we could ever get
sixty senators to break the filibuster, we'd be in great shape.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
I think things are going pretty well, but I agree
with them on one point. The midterms are crucial. We
have to keep the majority and beef it up in
the house. Hey, let me talk to let me talk
to Barry in Miamisburg.

Speaker 7 (21:09):
Hey, how's it going today?

Speaker 2 (21:10):
I'm good man.

Speaker 6 (21:11):
What you got It's a beautiful day.

Speaker 7 (21:14):
I've got two things for you.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (21:18):
Positive note, Even the younger twenty crowd knows that they're
getting screwed by the education system. Do they got screwed?

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Berry? Do you really believe that?

Speaker 1 (21:33):
And if you do, and I think you probably do,
tell me why because I sure ain't seeing that.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
I would hope that's the case, But why do you
think that.

Speaker 7 (21:43):
Let me let me give you an example. Yesterday, as
I was buying lunch at a local fish house that
I won't name. Okay, some of the workers in the
back line area, we're making jokes about lack of reading

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ability and laughing at it being because they want to
the public schools. Really, yeah, I mean there comes a
point where you know you were given eleven and there's
nothing else you can call it.

Speaker 6 (22:22):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
I hope you're right. I really do you know parents
to what their kids are being taught. I'm sorry, go ahead, that's.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Not all of them, I grant you, But you know they.

Speaker 7 (22:35):
Were laughing about it like it was a comedy routine,
and yeah, they realized that something ain't right here.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
I hope you're right about that. I guess in the
coming years we'll see. But boy, those numbers are frightening.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
I think they are.

Speaker 7 (22:54):
But you know there are nuggets of hope out there.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
I agree, you know, I agree. We just got to
keep going.

Speaker 7 (23:04):
How do you pick the broken Jack Lanner?

Speaker 2 (23:07):
What? What was that you?

Speaker 7 (23:10):
How do you a broken Jack Lanner?

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Boy? You got me on that one.

Speaker 7 (23:16):
Here's a pumpkin patch.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Very good and it was clean thanks, Berry, appreciate the call.
That was pretty good. Let me talk to Jeff and Zenia.
Hey Jeff, good morning, Hey.

Speaker 5 (23:30):
Good morning, Mike.

Speaker 7 (23:30):
How you doing.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
I just wanted to back up your idea.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Just go through the Wall Street journals last week and
on Monday they.

Speaker 8 (23:37):
Talked about the rise of the young socialists and what
they said was dated back to was a two thousand
and eight financial crisis about how that left a very
lasting impression on people that were just coming into.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
The workforce as well as looking to buy houses.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
And when the house is.

Speaker 8 (23:55):
Tanked because of various reasons which are still unknown, that's
where the socialism movement got.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
A big push.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
You know, it's funny you mentioned that because I get
the Wall Street Journal. I read that exact story too,
and I don't know. I mean, if that's the reason
that they're attracted to socialism, you know, the economy is
up and down and they need to look at the
bigger picture. But I mean, you know what high school,
college aged kid is going to go out of their

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way to do it.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
You gotta get it at the kitchen table. I mean,
absolutely true.

Speaker 8 (24:30):
But you know, the one question that I've always asked
when I've never been able to get it answered. Is
you know when all those people with the ninja loans
and all these people that basically got loans that shouldn't
had to have PMI. When you have PMI, basically that
covers you know, the banks from losing money if you
default on your loan. Right, if everybody had PMI, why

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was there a problem?

Speaker 2 (24:53):
That's a really good question. I don't know the answer
to it.

Speaker 5 (24:56):
You know, I don't either.

Speaker 8 (24:57):
I've never been able to get it either.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
I mean, if you ever like google it, you know
what AI I think is pretty good. If AI can't
give you an answer and they present both sides of
the story too.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
I'll give him a shot.

Speaker 5 (25:10):
Hey, great show, Michael. Lets you get to other people.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Thanks a lot, Okay, Jeff, thank you. All right, let's
talk to Steve. Hey, Steve, what you got man?

Speaker 6 (25:20):
Hey, Mike, what do you think of that p did
he verdic?

Speaker 3 (25:24):
What you think he was fair?

Speaker 2 (25:26):
I think the verdict was fair, frankly.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
I mean, from what I saw, I'm surprised he wasn't
convicted on more. He got four years yesterday. I think
he's got about a year locked up or something like that.
Credit judge has to give him credit for that. So
if that's accurate, he'll be doing three years. And from
what I read in one account, I forget which one
he had scheduled. I don't know if concerts or whatever.

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He scheduled stuff for like next month because he didn't
think he was going to go to jail.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
He thought he'd get time served. Well he didn't.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Just the horrific things that all you need to do
to know about that guy is just look at the
video of him beaten the living daylights out of that
woman in the hall. So I have no sympathy for him.
He's going to be a guest of the federal government
for a while, and I think that's appropriate.

Speaker 6 (26:17):
I got a question for you, Mike, Yeah, well what
about to shut down? What do you think of no end?

Speaker 1 (26:22):
You know what, I don't know. It's kind of a
game of scare down now. But to me looking at it,
it comes down to one thing, and I think you'll
get at least a lot of Republicans telling you this
one thing. The Democrats want to pay. I don't have
the figure in front of me, billions of dollars for
through I guess Obamacare for medical cost for illegal immigrants.

(26:47):
The Republicans do not want that in there, they don't
want to pay for it. Of course, the Democrats are
doing their slight hand on it. And if that's the case,
the Republicans need to hold out, and I kind of
think they are. And I think the Democrats, especially Schumer,
are looking real bad on this thing. And probably the
number two reason and that this should not be a

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reason for it, is Chucky Schumer. He's got Aoz breathing
down his neck in New York.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
I think she's gonna blow him away.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
And you know, he's got a cozy up to his
radical left.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
I mean, that's just my thoughts on it.

Speaker 6 (27:24):
Steve Yes, sir, thank you, Mike.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Okay, thank you. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
I think the Republicans win the pr war on this one.
You know, I don't know how much farther it's gonna go.
Hopefully they'll get it done this week. But you know what,
and this might sound selfish, but since the government has
shut down, it hasn't affected my life at all. I mean,

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the federal government shutting down. I mean what I think
of think of all the money that they're gonna save,
and it kind of he opens things for doge to
go in and look for savings. Yeah, and I like
when they say only essential workers have to come to work. Well,

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you know what is an essential worker?

Speaker 2 (28:15):
So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
I think so far in a PR battle, we're winning,
not by much and the Democrats are losing. But we'll
have to see. Hey, let's talk to Frank. Hey, Good morning, Franky.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Hey, Mike, how you doing.

Speaker 6 (28:29):
I haven't talked to you in a while, sir, Thanks
for calling, absolutely so I in true form. You all
just have such great conversations. You have great callers. I
could speak about a million things with you. But taking
it back to this ignorance of socialism, I couldn't agree
with you more. I think the country as a whole
is kind of confused about what this means. So I'm

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wondering why you and other Republican pundits aren't shouting at
the sky with the government taking a ten percent share
of Intel like Trump did, or taking a share in
the lithium a mining company like they are. Or it
looks like soybean farmers are getting crushed with his tariff.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
And if you.

Speaker 6 (29:07):
Remember from Trump one point zero, the same thing happened.
Farmers were getting killed so we cut them a huge
check billions of dollars. Why aren't we yelling about socialism
when Trump does it? Because that's a socialist policy.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
And what was your first one that you talked about? Intel?

Speaker 6 (29:23):
We have a ten percent stake in Intel.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Now you know what, I don't agree with that. I'm sorry,
I don't. I mean, we don't need to be involved
in that stuff. And I know Trump.

Speaker 6 (29:33):
Where is the outrage about socialism? When Trump does it?
There's no outrage whatsoever. It's crickets but anything. It's Oh,
he's a genius what he did, He's a business genius.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
What do you want us to do? Frank, get it
in the streets and riot like the other side. Does
you know? No?

Speaker 1 (29:48):
I rank Sorry, listen, you'll never get that out of
a liberal ever.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
I said, I think it's wrong to do that. I do.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
But if you weigh it out with the other things
he's done, that scale goes way down. I mean, on
the side of the good things that he's done. I
get it, well, I get it, And there has been
some squealing about it.

Speaker 6 (30:14):
But not only you're you're you're you're a free market capitalist.
But aren't tariffs The antithesis of capitalism, of free market capitalism.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
They are.

Speaker 6 (30:23):
I don't the protectionist policy. It's protectionist. I don't believe
that are all people to get from certain things.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Well, why shouldn't we have other countries be equal to
us with respect to tariffs?

Speaker 6 (30:34):
I don't understand the archaistic it's a tax on us.
Tariffs are attacks on citizens, not on to anybody else.
We're the ones that pay that it triples down to us.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Well, this is the first time I've heard the argument
that tariff's I know a lot of people don't like him.
I get that, but that they're socialism, So you know,
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (30:52):
One more, one more point. I know you've got a
lot of callers, but you said you know our side
never right. It's all points you in one specific January
January six.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Give me another one, will you please?

Speaker 6 (31:05):
Well, how about the one when our capital was attacked
because sore losers didn't like?

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Another one? Frank, you can't get.

Speaker 6 (31:14):
The worst one in the history of the country. It's
the only time our capital is the uh crap smeared
on the walls and they all got they all got
part of officer.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Listen to me again. I'll tell you I hated that.
I hated watching that, but it was one occasion when
you got numerous occasions with the other sides.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
I do appreciate the call, I really do.

Speaker 6 (31:39):
Thanks Mike.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Okay, thank you. Let's talk to uh Keegan. Hey, good morning, Kagan, Hey,
good morning. Thanks for staying my call.

Speaker 6 (31:50):
I'm calling to respond to the previous caller that just
got off the line. Yeah, numerous things.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
That are out of day.

Speaker 6 (31:56):
First off, with regards to J six, I love the
lack of momentary of the now exposed two hundred and
seventy five FBI eight and somewherebted and all of that.
Plus you have numerous people on the right and even
the middle that were immediately decrying all of it, alongside
with the left. So it was obviously a ridiculous thing

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on its face, and you're getting no argument from that. Meanwhile,
all the BLM riots went, you know, completely unnoticed. I
guess when two billion dollars worth of damage was done
to property all around the United States. The other thing
is with regards to tiff Now, I'm no fan. I'm
a small business owner which deals with product on both

(32:40):
the domestic and international fronts. You know, he's mentioning the
soybean argument as if it's not directly affected by China,
who is, in all intents and purposes, our enemy. It's
a reality. They steal our ip left and right. It's
not like we're dealing with like Certainly, of course people
on the right are, you know, pro capitalism and free

(33:02):
market capitalism. But that conversation ends when you're one dealing
with an adversary and two dealing with an adversary that
is also not capitalistic and is stealing our property left
and right. So I think it's completely out of base
and intentionally, it's almost like guilt biomission. It's intentionally ignoring

(33:23):
crucial facts that doesn't paint the full picture.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Well, that sounds like what the left does. Thank you
for the call, Kegan, I really do tears. Okay, well
I'll tell you what he picked me up on that one,
and everything that he said is right with respect to
Jay six.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
I watched that.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
I was urinated off at obviously the people there and
Trump too.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
I mean I hated it.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
But when I asked him about three times, okay, give
me another one, Well there isn't because that's not what
we do anyway, Well, I got a lot of other calls,
but again, short show, so we got to take a break.
When we get back, we're going to talk to Attorney
James Bogan. Now, what's going on in some recent victories

(34:09):
in the whole war of men or women pretending men
pretending to be women in women's sports.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
We'll do that when we get back. Mike.

Speaker 6 (34:19):
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Speaker 1 (34:26):
Mike Allen with hour two, which is the final hour
today Saturday midday because of the UC game.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
I am out of here in eleven.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Hey, I tell you what, there's some good news continues
to be good news on the whole situation with men
pretending to be girls in girls sports. Here to talk
about it is a guy that keeps up on it
talking about Attorney James Bogan. You can hear him. He's
on this channel quite a bit, and he is a podcast.

(34:58):
It is a really good podcast called Past the Clock.
I know you can get it on iHeart, and I'm
sure you can get it on other platforms. James, thanks
for calling in this morning.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
Mike, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Hey, let's start with Bostock versus Clayton County, which is
a twenty twenty United States Supreme Court case. They kind
of looked at that and not made changes, but kind
of clarified some things.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Is that accurate?

Speaker 3 (35:26):
That was the case that the Auto Pen Administration and
wrongly interpreted to say, hey, this means guys should be
allowed in girls' sports. But if you look at the
plain language of this opinion, the court expressly stated this
only applied to discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender
identity and nothing else in the workplace. Right, And they're

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saying they specifically stated it doesn't apply to bathrooms, locker rooms,
or anything else of the kind. It only applies to
employment discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity, and
nothing else. Now, I don't know how you could read
the opinion in plain English and think it says, hey,
you should allow guys in girls' sports.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Well, you know how the left is and their attorneys
are the same way. They'll take any interpretation they can
to quote unquote win.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
When do you think they'll.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Interpret two plus two equals sixth that it fits their purposes?

Speaker 1 (36:27):
When do you think they'll rule on the marriage of
the case, or had they already done.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
So no, they already did that. That's just the case
for the background, right. But you know what you've got here.
We've got two big things going on right now. We've
got that lawsuit by Riley Gaines and the nineteen other
plaintiffs that was filed in federal court in Atlanta last
year that just got past a significant hurdle, along with

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that other case that the Supreme Court just took in
July about law in Idaho in West Virginia that banned
guys from girls' sports.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Let me ask you this. You mentioned the Riley Gaines case.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
I saw that too, James, tell my listeners what happened there,
and I guess it was a small loss, but a
pretty big win in other ways.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Yeah, it's a big win overall. Because the Title nine
claims against the NCAA's stay, they can go forward. The
plans can go forward on those because the judge, who
by the way, is an auto pen appoint he said
that the plaintiffs have plausibly alleged that the NCAA receives

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federal financial assistance and is therefore subject to the requirements
that Title nine. But some other stuff got dropped, like
saying that they have not plausibly alleged a violation of
right to privacy. That's for the guys and girls locker
rooms part, and some other stuff, I mean, the title
nine stuff, that's the meat of it, right, But the
main goals of this lawsuit are to keep guys out

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of girls sports and girls locker rooms and mandatory gender
testing because the NCAA does not have gender testing, And
contrary to the what the left says saying it's gonna
be invasive genital exams, it's actually nothing more than a
cheek swab maybe a blood test to test for chromosomes.
They don't look at anybody's junk.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Yeah, you know what, And I'm glad you clarified that part.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
It's just a situation where they're gonna twist anything to
fit with their narrative. But it looks like that one
is going to come to fruition at the Supreme Court
at some point, I mean, on the full case.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
Eventually, Yes, it will.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Do you have any idea when, uh?

Speaker 3 (38:44):
No, I mean right now, it's still in the trial phase,
so it's gonna take some years. But you have that
Idaho in wet'st Virginia protecting women's sports laws that are
the Supreme Court just took. And the funny thing is
the plaint if in the Idaho case is now trying
to dismiss her if. They're trying to dismiss their case

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pretty much because they know they're going to get their
rear ends whooped when they when they're in front of
the Supreme Court.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
YEP, I get that. Hey, James, I ask you this
question every time I talk to you. Are we still
winning this battle? It sure sounds like we are.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
We are winning this I mean. The thing. The bottom line, though,
is here's the underpinning that the far left is trying
to make everybody forget. When guy someone goes through puberty
as a male, they gain certain permanent advantages that don't
go away from hormones and blockers. Yeah, bigger muscles, bigger
long capacity, bigger frame, stronger tenants, stronger ligaments, more muscle density,

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and you see my better have. Shannon Campbell, she does bodybuilding.
If she was to start taking steroids, she wouldn't get
anywhere near to where I am. Because if women take steroids,
they don't suddenly become as good as men. That's where
you have to Title nine violation. But if men start
taking hormones, then they don't beat their ability does not

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regress down the level of women. Men's and women's performances
differences about ten to twelve percent. And is you've heard
me mentioned before? Leah Thomas's time in the two hundred
yard freestyle only regressed by two point six six percent
after a year of hormones and blockers, went from being
number four hundred and sixty five mon college men to

(40:29):
number one mon college women. I mean, imagine if I
decided to get on stage and compete against Shannon and
her bodybuilding competition.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Well, I'll tell you what, James, Can I tell you something?
I think she probably I think she probably could take you.
She could tell you or me together.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
I think, oh, you know what all she needs to
do to kick our butts is start singing and we're done.
Remember I told you Persne's medieval torture, I'll put I'll
add this to it. You know how will Ealy jokes
about harambe right, if Harambi had not been shot dead
that faithful day, Shannon would have killed him with her singing,
and we'd be saying Shannon Campbell killed Harambe.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Hey, buddy, you're gonna get it when you get home.
You know you better watch.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
Oh I gave her a head up, but yeah, she's
still gonna kill me, and you know what, I deserve it.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Hey, let's move on too. We are gonna talk about
the Komy indictment. I'll tell you one thing, James, and
I'll ask you if you agree, this is, without question,
the shortest federal indictment that I have ever seen. I mean,
I guess it's not they didn't take it to the
grand jury. I guess it's in the nature of a
complaint two pages. Have you ever seen a federal case

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in anything that is only two pages long in a
criminal case?

Speaker 3 (41:50):
Might every drug case I've had in federal course been
a lot longer than this?

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
I think it seemed to me there's probably merit to it, James,
But I mean, do you think they'll be able to
prove this thing beyond a reasonable doubt?

Speaker 3 (42:10):
You know what they have to focus on the nuts
and bolts. Did he lie to set the Senate Judiciary Committee?
And if the answer is yes, focus on those nuts
and bolts clear through the smoke screen that the defense
is gonna do. I mean, here's here's the funny thing.
Komy has always urged prosecuting high level perjury cases. Remember

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he was the lead prosecutor in Martha Stewart's case, and
he's basically now taking the approach rules for thee but
not for me. And this thing totally centers around the
fact that he lied to Congress about his role in
promoting the Russian collusion hopes, where he was pretty much
the one who spearheaded it after and you saw evidence

(42:57):
of that, more evidence of that from that document dump
that Tulca Gabbert did a couple months back that basically
showed that Comy was completely spearheading this thing. He's like,
I don't care what your investigation says we have. We're
dissenting from these findings quote based on some new guidance.
The new guidance was wanting to get Trump.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
It's obvious to anyone that has ever looked into this,
and even superficially. But again, I just worry about proof
beyond a reasonable doubt. Let me ask you this, where's
the venue for this? Is it DC or somewhere Virginia
somewhere or do you know.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
It's in Virginia. I think, yeah, that it was that
that that's the US Attorney's office that's taking it.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Okay, that's better than DC, you know what, still not friendly,
I don't think, you know what.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
Yeah, they're the prosecutors. They're gonna need to focus on
the nuts and bolts.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Yeah, I mean it is pretty simple.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
I mean, but again, getting twelve to agree on it,
and obviously, obviously I hope the man is convicted because
he deserves it, you know. And another thing, James, I
don't expect you to comment on this unless you want to,
because as a lawyer, maybe I shouldn't say it.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
You know.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
I heard somebody talking about these things one time and
says the process is the punishment. I mean, normally I
wouldn't say that. But and another, I mean, politics is
about payback. It's a big part of it. I don't
know if you want to comment on that, fine, if
you will, Well.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
There is something be said about the idea. I'm not
going to sit there and say you should prosecute him
because the process is punishment. That's completely improper. But just
simple maths. Nobody likes being put through the process. Just
ask our president.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Yeah, really, you know, and that's the thing. And I
agree with you from a lawyer's point of view on that.
But I mean, you think about all the crap they
put Donald Trump through, and I get a kick out
of every time one of them starts squealing about something
like this. I mean, go back four years, Hell, go
back twelve years. And yeah, you peached the man twice.

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Obviously the Senate didn't convict and lord knows how many
other criminal cases in civil cases. So from a citizen's
point of view, James Bogan, they're getting what they deserve.
I mean, I'm not saying that as a lawyer though,
but anyway.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
Yeah, let me put it this way. I'm not exactly
wringing my hands about this.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
But very very very well put Hey, let's talk about
mister p Diddy. Yesterday, the judge gave him four years.
I don't think he thought that he was going to
prison or back to prison. I think he thought that
he was going to get time served. I saw some
reports somewhere James, within the last day or so where

(45:56):
he had gigs and all kinds of so called important
stuff up set up pretty close to when he would
have gotten out if the judge did give him time served.
I don't know that he gets it yet, but I
don't know your thoughts on.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
That that is complete where it was completely idiotic on
his part. Alan Dershwitz waited on this too, saying it
was a slap in the face and he couldn't imagine.
I couldn't imagine anything more stupid to do before sentencing.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
I know.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
That's just like when you tell a client these are
the things you do not say or do before sentencing,
and they go, gee, I think I'll do all of them,
and then wonder why they got it work sentence. Now, overall,
his sense of fifty months, which he'll probably he could
get up to fifteen percent off and be out by
April twenty twenty eight is still relatively not a bad sentence.

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I mean, the prosecutors were arguing for eleven years to
try to save Faith for blowing around ten million of
our tax dollars for what was basically a glorified state
prostitution case. And the arguments they used that's sentencing about
how bad he is and so on for the with

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based on the evidence they presented, which no doubt did
he's a dirt bag, okay, but you don't convict because
someone is a dirt bag. And those arguments clearly didn't
sway the jury on the more serious counts, but they
open up the door for the defense to have one
of issue on appeal saying that the court considered a
quitted conduct. I mean the court can also I mean

(47:30):
the defense can also argue improper guideline calculation, because I
bet some months back I might have told you this,
Mark garrett Goes, by the way, whose daughter was on
the defense game, Mark gerrat Goes, being h you know,
one of the biggest names in our profession. He had
calculated something to maybe about a year and a half

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or so. And that's what I'm thinking.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Of it.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
I mean, yeah, that's somewhere in that range. Yeah, he
was calculating something like that. And you know, but I
have a hard time, would have a hard time believing
that the judge did not consider that. Did he arrange
these stupid speaking engagements. He should have been focusing on

(48:16):
showing remorse. Yeah, the only thing he should have been
focusing on.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
You know, And you described probably the most I guess
agreedious thing with defense attorneys visa VI their clients when
you tell them that don't do this. Don't do that,
you'll piss the judge off. Don't do this, and they
do it anyway, then they squeal when they don't get
what they thought they should have gotten.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
It's just very frustrating.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
Oh you know, I'll just go out in a personal
store on that. A couple of years ago, I had
a client in Warren County who they had a gun
case and he fired it and he's sitting there saying
stuff like he was happy with what he did, and
he was playing to get another gun and basically completely
put his foot in his mouth, topped his wing into prison.

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And even my lock up client who was at the
defense table what I got done, was watching us think
that was horrible. But even another inmate says, you're horrible.
It's like, you know how bad it is.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
I mean again, they pay you a good coin for
doing that. They ought to listen to what the heck
that you say I did? Here mentioned this morning on
some report that he's planning on appealing. You mentioned James Bogan.
You can appeal the guideline calculation. And just for listeners

(49:35):
who don't know the federal guidelines in a federal criminal case,
there are guidelines that the court. When it first came out,
they were mandatory. They are now advisory, but they're still important.
What do you think about the chances of appeal on
that issue in any other issue?

Speaker 3 (49:57):
You know what, I'm take a look and see what happens,
because overall, he got a pretty good sentence.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
He sure did. I think he sure did.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
He got to take that four years and run and again,
I think he was locked up about a year, wasn't he.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
Yeah, and yeah, with the time off for good behavior,
he could be in for only maybe another two and
a half years.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
Well, I'll tell you what. They don't think that way.
And you know, the guy, the guy dodged a big
old bullet. And you know, sometimes you just got to
shut up and take what you're what you're given when
it's obviously a fair and, if anything, a light sentence.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
But I appreciate your should.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
He should stop buying baby oil and mass quantity too.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Yeah, he's probably got a lot left he can bring
to prison with him, though.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
James appreciates your playing in with us.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Bill.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
Well, you're certainly welcome, Mike. It's always a privilege.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Okay, thank you, thank you, Mike.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Okay, all right, James, Bogan talking about P Diddy's case.
You know, I mean, the guy got off pretty darn light,
so he ought to quit his whining and complaining do
his time. I don't know what kind of setup he's
got up in prison there, but federal prisons. I'll tell
you what I've been in federal and local, not local

(51:19):
state prisons. They are compared to a state prison. It's
like the holiday inn. So he probably ain't hurting too
bad in there. Hey, we got to take a break
butt when we get back. The last Reds report of
the season with our man David he Armbusher. Got a
lot of questions for you, and we'll do that when
we get back. Mike Allen seven hundred WLW. Hey we're

(51:44):
back Mike Allen, Saturday midday. Well, obviously, the red season
ended this week with two playoff losses to the LA Dodgers.
Just to give you an idea of how they did,
and this is according to a the batting stats for
the playoffs, Reds hit two fifty their batting average eleven

(52:07):
hits at sixty four at bats. With respect to pitching,
I think it was a lot better than that, but
I wasn't able to check it. Anyway here to talk
about it as our guy for all things Cincinnati Reds.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
David Dye, Arm Brewster, yid your thoughts.

Speaker 5 (52:24):
It's a bummer that had ended the way it ended.
It really is, because they had a good season and
then you go into LA and you get beat and
you know, both games were decided before the game was
even halfway old. That was that's the meat, just the
bummer part of it that they couldn't you know, couldn't
score enough early to keep that game in check, either

(52:46):
one of them, you know, and it just it's it
kind of hurts. I was really disappointed with the out
hunter green Head. Yeah, you know, you only end up
going three innings and giving up five runs and three
home runs, and those were just killers. You know, the
lead off home run to o Tiny That doesn't bother me.
That's fine, it's going to happen. But then he gives
up too in the next inning or the third inning,

(53:08):
whatever it was, and it just that just took the
air out of the balloon right there.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Do you think it was butterflies? He was nervous?

Speaker 5 (53:16):
I hope not. I mean, that guy's pitched in a
you know, he's getting paid a lot of money for
a reason, right, I think I think everybody that goes
in there, as I would imagine, it's a little bit nervous.
But after you throw that first pitch, all that stuff
better go away, or you know, you're not a professional.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
So I don't.

Speaker 5 (53:34):
I don't think it was that. I don't. I guess
you know, his pitches where where they can hit him, basically,
So you know, that was just that was just disappointed.
Tell that a little better than night next night, but still,
you know, not enough. You got to hold that lead,
especially given the fact that the Dodgers' bullpen is not
very good. I don't think this team's that team's going

(53:56):
to go along and as good as they can hit,
that bullpen is very hittable, and the Reds proved that
in that first game.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Yeah, you know, you look at the twenty twenty five
season stats.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
Not too bad.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
Pitching, well, that's not that good. Eighty three seventy nine
wait minute stopped. Oh, they finished one to eighty three,
lost seventy nine, fourteen games behind the Brewers. Okay, the ninth,
the twenty twenty five batting average, two forty five, sixteen
home runs, they're twenty first out of thirty on that

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one hundred and sixty six home runs six hundred and
seventy seven RBIs right in the middle of the pack.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
But pitching, this won't surprise anybody.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
They were twelve out of the thirty teams with a
three point eighty six ERA. And you know that pitching
staff is strong.

Speaker 5 (54:50):
It is strong. It is strong. What it is not
is healthy. I mean, if those guys would stay healthy
the entire season, every one of them, Hunter Green missed
whatever two months, Habitt was out for a little bit,
Lodolo had the problem on his on his index finger.
Brady Singer, he was the star because he's the one
that went, you know, the longest, in the deepest, in

(55:13):
every game. You pitched a lot of it and he
didn't miss a start. And those end up, man, when
you're when you're starting pitchers are missing you know, three
or four, five, six starts. That's a lot considering you're
only you know, if you're if you're healthy the whole season,
you're only throwing thirty two games anyway, So I mean,
you know, you knocked that number down by five or
six and that hurts the team. And I think that

(55:33):
was part of it. I really do.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Yeah, you know, the blogs are real busy.

Speaker 6 (55:38):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
Francona has taken some hits by using lodolo in relief
on Sunday, So I guess that would have eliminated him
as being the starter in game two. I mean, does
that make any sense to you? And I have no
complaints about.

Speaker 6 (55:56):
Now I have.

Speaker 5 (55:57):
I have no complaints either, because you have to win
the game Sunday. You know you you worry about tomorrow tomorrow.
You don't worry about tomorrow today if you have to
win this game. So I have no complaints with that.
I mean I've heard something where why didn't he keep
lodolo in and at Uh? I can't remember first or
second game when and he was pitching, well well, I

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mean he pitched the day before, so maybe that are
two days before. Maybe that's the reason I can tell
you this. I'm not questioning uh every move Hanry Francona.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
Uh pass.

Speaker 5 (56:29):
The guy has two World Series rings on for a reason.
You know there there is, So I'm not going to
nitpick on every one thing.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
You know.

Speaker 5 (56:38):
The bottom line to all this Reds need better players, Mike,
They need better players, especially offensively.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (56:45):
If you if you want to compete. You saw how
deep uh the uh Dodgers are. Now they're never going
to get that deep because they don't have that kind
of money. But boy, you got to have some depth,
and you got to have some guys that can that
can hit the balls. And the one home run or
the home runs that you mentioned twenty first, twenty first
out of thirty teams in the Great American Ballpark, that's

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that's sinful. You got to be better than that, exactly,
have to. They have got somebody that can put the
ball over the fence.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
And we've talked about that odd infin item.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
I mean, what do you see this team doing over
the break before we go back on opening Day?

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Is there anyone out there?

Speaker 1 (57:30):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (57:30):
I think there's people out there. I mean, I think
you can get some of those maybe some of those
young hairs. If you look at like the the the Athletics. Boy,
they got some nice young bats on that team, and
they could use some pitching. And you know you're going
to have to. It's the old saying you got to
give up something to get something, and I am. I

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am fine with them trading one of the starters. I mean,
my guess is it's I would probably Hunter Green. He's
probably gonna bring you the most, So do you do
that maybe.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
I mean, if you can get enough for him. I
hate to see him go.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
He seems like a real fine young man and he's
got a hell of a future, I think, despite what
we saw in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
But you got to give up quality to get quality.

Speaker 5 (58:19):
There's no question. And I think that that has to
happen with this team. And uh, you know you're gonna
You're probably gonna lose Nick Martinez, he's one of them.
I think Lattel is probably a free agent as well.
So you're gonna are going to lose some starters in there,
and then you got a factor in the injuries. I mean,
I know we talked about it when Abbott struggled in
the second half, when Lott Dola was down. You really

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you can't have enough starting pitching. So maybe they think otherwise,
Maybe they think they can't afford to get rid of
Hunter Green or one of the other starters. But I mean,
you've got to score some You can't win if you
don't score rounds, and this team has to have some power.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
You know.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
Speaking of the blogs too, there's one from my think Thursday.
It is in the blog red Machine Drew Cook six
Reds players who definitely won't be back in twenty twenty six,
and he lists, let's see, I want to make sure
I get it right here. He lists Nick Martinez is one,

(59:20):
Santiago Espinal, Zach Lttel. Who are the other ones here?
Sam Maul, Austin Hayes, and Wade Miley. Your thoughts on that? Yeah,
do you see those guys going?

Speaker 5 (59:33):
I think that. I think that's fairly accurate. Wade Miley
may stick around, you know, that might be a mutual
thing because the Reds did give him a chance to
come back and gave him a second life, and you know,
sat through his Tommy John surgery that he had as
a brewer, so that he may be around. I'm not
sure about that. The other ones. For sure, Martinez is gone.

(59:55):
I think Amelia Pagan is gone. Oh personal, and because
I I'm not sure his contracts that is. But I
think he is a free agent. I think he might
be one of them that is out of here. Now.
We'll we'll wait and see. We'll know soon enough. I mean,
it's not going to be very you know, a long
way off, and they know what's going to happen, and

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I and I would hope that they make some of
these deals. If they're going to go out and try
to get a bat day, you know, it's not the
last minute thing that when they get down there for
the general managers meetings whenever that is in early December.
I guess I think you go and go down there
and make some moves. And I also think that Terry
Francine is going to have a bit have a big

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hand and a big say and what they do in
the off season, because you know, he's seen this team
now for a year. You see him turned the course
of his season kind of molded into what he wants,
and I think that's just going to continue.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Yeah, I mean, they're crazy if they don't get his
input into all that stuff. I mean, if you're looking
for bright spots, and I think there were a lot
of them this year, him being at the Helm is
probably the biggest one. I you know, I'm not smart
enough to guess second guess him on calls. I would
never do that, but sure seems like he had the

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pieces put together the right way, don't you.

Speaker 5 (01:01:13):
Think, Oh I do during the course of the year.
I mean, he made so many moves that, you know,
during this little things, but you know, you know, he
started the season with Matt McClean batting up in the order.
Towards the end of the year, he was batting ninth.
He finally moved Ellie Daily Cruise out of that third
spot in new order, and I think, I mean, maybe

(01:01:35):
you can say he should have done that sooner. Well,
maybe he should have, maybe he shouldn't have. I mean,
Ellie data Cruz is still a really good baseball player,
but I think little things like that, and once he's
you know, you got the trades that were made were
good trades. Key Brian Hayes at third base, you start
little five things a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:01:55):
I think they're still going to figure out what they're
going to do with South Stewart. Where is he going
to play? Because quite frankly, he's a liability defensively at
third base? So does he play first? When you got
Spencer steer over at first base, who, if they were
being honest, should win the Gold Glove at first base.
I don't think he will, but that's how well he
played there. So do you take him off that and

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put him in the outfield? Just a lot of maneuvering
that has to go on during this off t season.
But the one thing with Francona, see likes guys that
can play everywhere. I don't know that I'm a great
big fan of that, but it seems to work. So
that's the way the game is gone. And with Spencer Steer,
that's what you have. You can put him pretty much

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any place you need.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
Him, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Speaking of defensive problems, Elie de la Cruz, I mean,
what does he do over the offseason to improve with fielding?
Because I didn't check, but I think the last time
you and I spoke, he had the most errors of
anyone in Major League Baseball.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
What do they do? And I love the guy, I
love him, I love watching.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Him, but he's got I get he's got to get
better defensively.

Speaker 5 (01:03:03):
Well, my opinion is come opening Day he's going to
be in center field. Really, I really think that. I
think it's I mean, you can put up when I've
heard the argument after last season, well, Barry Larkin led
the league, and Harris his first season, well he didn't
in season number two, and Ellie did, I think it's
time to move him off a shortstop. Look what it.

(01:03:26):
It did wonders for Noelvi Martiete when they moved him
off a third base and put him in the ray field,
because his mind was freed up. He didn't have to
worry about playing third base, and he goes out to
right field and he's starting now. He slumped a little
bit towards the end. I get that, but for the
most part, he pitched, played really well and hit really
well once they moved into the ray field. And I

(01:03:46):
think that can be the same case with Ellie day
La Cruz. I Mean, the one thing I worry about
him is he plays so hard. I don't want him
banging into the wall every other night, you know, and
and hurting himself. So but I think you have to
make that move. But defensively, I really do.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
I mean, it's just way too many errors, and you know,
you could tell just by looking at him they definitely
got to him too. So I mean, I hope that's
something that they can work on over the off season.
Last question, you had this year team record eighty three
seventy nine, fourteen games behind Milwaukee. Was it what you

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thought it would be better, worse?

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Or where do you come down on that.

Speaker 5 (01:04:31):
About the same when the season started. I thought eighty five,
so eighty three they were close, and you give her
you know, you can swing either way on that because
you get lucky a couple of games and maybe you
have those eighty five wins. So I think they were
right about where everybody thought they would be, you know,
in the division. I didn't think anybody think the Brewers

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would take off the way they took. Oh, I know,
you know, you know, you just give it another year,
and I think you can. I mean, I think you
need to. I think this team needs to shoot for
you know, eighty five wins won't be acceptable next year.
I think you need eighty eight to ninety to make
the postseason. And I think that's what they have to.
They have to gear everything toward well.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
And you know, they kind of spoiled us with the
eighty three and seventy nine. I didn't think they'd do
that well, but obviously they did well. I'll tell you what.
It's not that far away from opening day.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
It's uh.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
They open with Boston on March twenty sixth, so we
don't have too long to go, and.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
You'll probably be going down in Florida, all right, excuse
me Arizona.

Speaker 5 (01:05:37):
Yeah, I mean the first spring training game is normally
the third Saturday in or yeah, February, so around the
twentieth something like that will be the first spring training game.
And since it's and I'm almost guaranteed it's going to
be against the Guardians, since that's the first game they
play every year for the past sixteen years.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
So yeah, they share that they shared.

Speaker 5 (01:06:01):
Conn Day in February. Will be there and you'll hear
it live and you'll probably maybe s work over some
money and come down there too.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
I knew that was coming.

Speaker 6 (01:06:09):
It's funny that you've been at someplace.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
I'm kind of thinking about it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
Hey, you, I really appreciate all of your help and
your wisdom over this past year and looking forward to
talking to you again next year.

Speaker 5 (01:06:24):
I don't know how much wisdom there was, but I
appreciate it. I love doing it, Mike. So we'll talk
to you in February.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Sounds good, buddy, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
All right, David d Armbrus, you're on our Cincinnati Reds.
I'll tell you one thing. I probably went to more games,
and yes, yet I paid for most of them. I
went to more games this year than I think I
have since the Big Red Machine days. It's a fun
ball team to watch, it really is, and the ambiance
in the atmosphere at Great American Ballpark it's hard to

(01:06:58):
find anything that's better than that. So as far as
I'm concerned, very successful season, but as you had said,
looking for more next year. Hey, I'm out of time,
so I am out of here. Mike Allen seven hundred
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