1-5-26 Scott Sloan Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Do you want to be in a Mafican all right back, Yeah,
the first one about twenty twenty six for me and
probably for you, possibly for you. Here we go another
year ahead of us. Of course, when you start with
bad news. Hopefully, hopefully that's not the trend for the
entire twenty twenty six campaign. I'm saying, we started in
Cincinnati with a homicide of an eleven year old. For

(00:20):
God's sake, Well, here we go again. Not much as changing.
The big story I think over the last few days
certainly has been what just happened in Venezuela. As the
Trump administration moved in, they took Maduro out. He is
being a reigned today in the Southern District of New
York probably as we speak right now. They've got him
off an army heilo, I believe, and they've got him
in court. They got him in custody. Hopefully it is

(00:42):
not a Jeffrey Epstein situation and how that turned out
when he was in custody. That would not be good
with the eyes of the world on us. But the
idea that we're doing this over drugs and not oil.
I think there's a lot of people that believe it's
about drugs, but I don't know. I look at the
history of this thing and go pretty clear to me
talking anything about drugs. Right now, we're talking about opening
up the oil markets and Cuba and Mexico maybe next

(01:05):
who knows what all this means. Maybe some perspective on
it from a guy who actually lived spent a lot
of time in Latin America as an expert in Latin America,
the former director of National Studies that UD founded human
Rights studies program. He is a professor. Mark and Salaco
joined the show on seven hundred WW from the University
of Dayton.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Mark, Happy New Year, Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Let's jump in and go with the narrative here about
this being the Yeah, I think we agreed last time
we spoke that the pretext here was, you know, drugs
protextual and this is all largely about oil because the
whole drug thing really doesn't make a lot of sense.
Even the government themselves, those who in the den also said, yeah,
Venezuela really is not a big exporter here. Of that

(01:49):
it might go through Mexico be funneled, but China is
the big end I mean here, Mexico is a bigger
proponent of drugs than Venezuela is at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
But I look at this one.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
This is kind of interesting because there are so many
patriots from Venezuela because of that awful regime, and I
think we should celebrate that. It's interesting because Trump's whole
plan for America has been stopping the flow of immigrants.
In Venezuela is one of those countries. It sent us
a lot of a lot of their immigrants, and so
I think that's an interesting juxtaposition.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, there's a lot involved in this. I'm not sure
that the drug issue was a pretext. It was literally
the Department of Justice had been looking at this guy
for decades, so this.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
Is a case was built. But it's about drugs, it's
about oils.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
But a lot of time talking about oil, which we understand,
which is really necessary. You know, Venezuela is a seventeen
percent of the world's controlling reserves and produces one percent.
I mean, there's real growth there, so, but it's also
about it's also about regime change. There's no question about
regime change, and not just in Venezuela, which many people

(02:57):
are applauding, even though they're not happy about military intervention
in United States.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
But I'm happy about the.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Removal of Maderto. Now you're thinking about Cuba, and now
you think about nick at Iwa, which Daniel Otago is
really horrible guy. And there are a lot of people
who look an opportunity in Venezuela to ignite, reignited democratic movement.
You know, this, this democratic unity platform, Maria Cordina Machallo.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
Was really to be applauded.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
So it's really strange to me because the president mentioned
the Vice President Selsea Rodriguez. The oils are not the
Nobel Prize winner leader of this very viable democratic.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
Platforms.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Sou Venezuela has a long history of Latina of democracy,
but there was really aborted by this years and years
decades on Chevysmo Caesar Jave is now thankfully it's over Madudo.
But Venezuela has the strength of a society to come

(04:04):
to this positively democratically.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
I think that's one of the things.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
You know, we talk about Iraq and Afghanistan and which
are twenty years endless war and look how it ended,
and we do Vietnam, and it goes on and on
and on, and there's some bright points where we tried
to build states, but it generally doesn't work out too well.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Marketslock.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
I think there's a little different because you know, the
thing in the Middle East is you're fighting against Islam, right.
You don't have that component here. So it's also in
the West, right, and so they have a history of democracy.
To me, that's it's a little bit. If you have
a chance, it may very well be with Venezuela. Let's
put it that way. Do you agree, Well.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
You know, I mean Venezuela when I started going to
Latin America, living there and researching there in the in
the eighties, Venezuela had avoided the military cutictas and the revolutions.
Even Colombia next door, the drug trafficking on the farc
and the gorillas and nineteen ex are Venezuela state above that,
and there's there's a vibrant democratic element there. But even

(05:07):
if I can had this, you know, what the President
said was sort of strange, talking about just so strange,
we're going to run we are going to run Venezuela.
And he started talking about the Trump corollary to the
Monroe doctri et cetera. But you know, I see standing
behind them Marco Rubil, who has been a long advocate,

(05:28):
long time advocate for the removal of these type of
these corypt dictatorships, being Cuban exil himself and he's a statesman,
it would be wonderful time now Marco Rubio really working
with allies in the region and the organization of Berican
States to really produce it would be a major You know,

(05:49):
in Latin America there are always suspicious in the United
States gunboat diplomacy.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
They started in Venezuela.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
In eighteen hundreds, right, But there's how is a wonderful
opportunity when a dictatorship falls, when it collapses. Now, if
he makes this just about oil, it's got to be
about oil because that will be able to buy democratic
peace with that with that that income. But it can't

(06:15):
be just about petroleum or US dominance. It's really got
to be about genuine democracy and the rule of law.
And you made an interesting point as you began this interview.
I for a long time said I welcome immigrants. I
welcome immigrants and migrants and refuge and asylums.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
Secrets understand it.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
But the first right the Latin Americans have is the
right not to be forced to flee. They deserve the
right of democratic government and the rule of law, a
prosperous economy. It allows them to stay in Venezuela, as
you said, or Nicaragua.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
Or whatever it may be. So whenever in Latin America where.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
I was suspicious in the United States and gunbulk diplomacy
and et cetera, et cetera, but in Latin America is
always wonderful fronts of fresh air. When the dictator falls,
there's and there's democratic possibilities. That's where that's where.

Speaker 5 (07:09):
We are at.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
We're in a moment of democratic possibility.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Doctor Mark Ansilaka from UD spent considerable amount of time
Latin American expert talking about the fall of Maduro in Venezuela.
What happens now and somehow we're going to quote unquote
run the country. I'm not quite sure what that entails.
Part of that problem, though, Mark, is the fact that
if you look at the Maduro regime, right lost the
election but kept the presidency anyway, and he did it

(07:32):
because he's got a huge payroll of people in the military. Generally,
when you do that, you're not going to be open
to democracy coming in. So you're going to have all
of these generals and leaders in the military. They're going
to fight tooth and nail to protect what they had
as opposed to giving in to make a Venezuela democratic state.
How can we do that without putting military, without putting

(07:54):
US boots on the ground. At this point, which you know,
I think it was what twenty twenty at West Point
when Trump said, We're not going to do any more
of these wars. This is a military slash police action. Okay,
but you're still going to have to occupy. How do
you do that if you're Donald Trump?

Speaker 4 (08:09):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yeah, I'm looking at fault lines. How this thing could
go south? No plum attended very badly, go sideways really quickly.
You got the military, Let me come back to that.
You got the Chavistas, you got the movement founded by
Google Chavez, who this regime really just serves. We could

(08:30):
have what equivalent in Venezuela. We'll call it antifa to
Chavez vigilantes. Yeah, that's a possibly drug traffickers. There are
real fault lines. But you're actually it's the military.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
Maw is correct.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Actually power proceeds from.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
The barrel of a gun.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
But what I suspect is contexts are already made between
our generals, the Panama Canal Zone, the Central Intelsagency, diplomatic core,
Marco rule. You we're already, we're already talking to people
and these generals who enrich themselves. Uh, Maduro, they're there

(09:10):
are days over, the gravy chains gone.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
They're gonna What they need to do is, you know,
gather up.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Their cash and their belongings and please someplace Spain or something.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
That's what will happened. They're not going to stand in fight.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
They're not going to be a military coup to retain
this democratic government.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
I don't see it, Doctor her. Know, the generals are
already talking to them.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
They're already talking about a first name based they want
time to get on a plane. We got a hotel
for you in Panama.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
Something.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Well, you know, you examine that, and there's just so
many of them there. They're obviously going to remain loyal
to Maduro for the reasons you talked about. It's make
our job harder as part of running things, as Trump said.

Speaker 5 (09:50):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
The other element to with with that loyalty is the
fact that all right, well, if you're already, if you
already have the gun barrels as you spoke, isn't this
is there a chance could make the the drug issue
worse than better?

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Well any instability, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Because of the instability, right, and and the weapons and
the power in Columbia.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, I lived in Columbia, which a really stable democratics,
a political system, I'll call it that, I'll believe it
or not. But the drug traffickers, drug traffickers were just
a state within a state. But what happened with Madero
was he had turned as had come by the way
Juan Ernandez, the Honduran president that our president just pardoned

(10:35):
for drug crimes right to Honduras and Venezuela had become
the government had really become a sort of corrupt government.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
It was just venal.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
And so you know, I brought up the specter of
you know, Chevista gangs out there trying to be violent resistance.
But no one's going to go to their grave for Machado.
He's not charismatic dictator. He's really a ten dictator. Not
a lot of people are going to martyr themselves on
the sec the on the on the on the altar

(11:09):
of Madito.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Yeah, and also the scope of Venezuela's like, you know,
twice the size of California.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
You have got about thirty million people there.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
That this isn't like a small island, you know, this
isn't a Haiti or Panama, for God's sakes. That's a
pretty big country and and and inhospitable one at that.
One comes to the terrain. So anytime I hear this,
I think of, okay, what about the US military? You
just look at that and go oof. Based on what
we described, and then the the you know, the topography
and the land mass, the size of the thing and

(11:38):
the scope of the population makes it even more difficult
to run this country.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
You know. But but it's not and you're a perceptive
of this, it's.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
This is not like a rock where we really had
to have put on the ground because we were being
there was an insurgency against our occupation or whatever we
want to call it. No, that's not the situation. You
don't have is law and order. Will people be able
to keep the gangs normal crime, normal crime?

Speaker 4 (12:08):
And then drug related crime?

Speaker 3 (12:10):
If the military and the security forces and the intelligence
surfaces sort of collapse, you have have instability, and that
it will be dangerous.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
What we have to avoid.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
If I use the analogy of Rock, can is the
depatification where anyone who was related to Mandeto, particularly in
the oil industry and other key industries. Right, we can't
just fire people because they're tired with Talbot. We may
with Mendeto. We made that mistake in a rock. So again,
you know there's a professional class. There is a vibrant Uh,

(12:46):
there could be a vibrant private market, private ownership and
market economy.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
It's been corrupted by this this regime, this democratic I
don't we call this state capitalism crony capitalism. There's real
epporate tunity for the private sector to go. There's a
professional class, the attorneys and terrorists who can restore the
rule of law.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
I don't want to be I don't.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Want to have rose colored glasses about this.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
I understand the difficulties, and.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
I don't want to say, oh, it's gonna be a rock.
There's gonna be a cake walk, and they're going to
welcome us as as liberators and oil will pay for herself.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
We heard those errors, those those lives.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
But then there's a if I can repeat it, there's
a real democratic moment here that's why, I hope.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
I don't know why.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
He's talking about Delsea Rodriguez.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
She's oil minister and the finance minister. She's you know,
she's some vice president has been talking to. But you've
got the Democratic Unity Platform, whose founder was an excellent
just want a Nobel prize, and you have an election
in which this platform, Democratic Unity Platform one six percent.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
It shocks me.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Unlike Anamal nineteen eighty nine, we're real with toroing Oriega
imdately had the Panamanian Supreme Court inaugurate the president who had.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
Won an election.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
So they needed to do that yesterday or they needed
to do it tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
They need to have the purged.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Supreme Court needs to install the man who won the legion.
It's as simple as that.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Hey, real quick, do you think we might be facing
now maybe a new era, a new golden era of colonization,
of empire building, of expansionism, because you look at what
we just did in Venezuela. You look at well what
Moscow has done relative to Ukraine. But you know a
lot of the Estonia, maybe Poland those countries like that
could be on the brink.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Now.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Beijing looks at and goes, well, we can just take
to Taiwan. Right now, are we seeing the big three
being in the United States, China, and Russia moving that
new age of colonization.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Yes, exactly right, that's the way Putin and g heard
that speech.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
Yeah right. And in Latin America.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Have you lived there, taught there from a long time,
what they hear is US imperialism. They hear that back, right,
But you have an interesting moment. You've got uh in Chile, right,
we do. We overthrown a endy. This are the big
issue in the US foreign policy. But Chile just elected

(15:20):
host who's extremely conservative. You know, you can see change
come about that is very favorable to the US interest.
I'm not I'm not trying to be a nationalist about this,
but for the first time, maybe this is Marco who's
influenced for the longest time. After the longest period of time,

(15:40):
the Latin America is ton of interesting again, and it
looks like what Trump is saying for the hyperbole of
the Trump corollary to the Morton or doctor faddle, but
there's intention suddenly on the Latin America, the anti drugs,
anti corruption, and markets. So I think there's that moment

(16:02):
in Latin America, we're favorable for reals interests right now.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Well, I think I also since a strong you know,
we're heard Marco Rubio mentioned, well Cuba could be next.
You're Greenland, right, But what about Mexico. If I'm Mexico,
I'm looking at this going this is a game changer.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Well, you know, there's a famous adage in Mexico. The
former president said, the poor Mexico so far from God
and so.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
Close to the United States.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
And you know, and this is when a president Wilson
wanted to teach Mexicans how to elect good men.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
So there's that concern.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
No, So if you're worried about Venezuela, which is decisive
of California, Mexico is a continent done to it so right,
So that's just some touched But the drug violence there
is astronomical. I've done a lot of research on drug killings,
expert witness and courts and drug cases and dealing with

(17:02):
mexicill I've dealt with political violence against women cases in
Latin America. Mexico is just massive. It's a democracy as
a vibrant capitalist economy, but it has you know, there
are one hundred one thousand disappeared, Achille.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
It was it was a.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
Thousand, one hundred thousands over the last twenty years. So yeah,
what did to do about MEXICILU But Mexico is not
ben as well, it's it's too large of a problem.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, how to how do you manage that?

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Mark and Silaco at the University of Dayton uh Mark
former director in the National Studies Program d founder of
the Human Rights Studies Program and spend a lot of
time in Latin America. Mark, thanks the time, appreciate it,
Thank you, all right, all the best. Yeah, Happy New
Year to you too. Let me get a news update,
and there're a lot to chew on. There is this
the new way to just taking stuff up, you know,
if you're going to start taking countries over Venezuela or

(17:54):
with the oil.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
We'll get to that a little bit too.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
I'm not quite sure this one makes sense from from
a monetary standpoint. That sounds good. Go yeah, you know,
more than other series of oil revenue. Great, but there's
a problem with that thinking. We'll get into that in
just a second. But you know, as long as we're
expanding our footprint here into Latin America. You know there's
one area that concerns a lot of people, well almost
all people in this country, when it comes to reducing

(18:18):
the cost of things. Kind of other country should we
think about, like Columbia Country. I'll tell you why next
afternoons lonely back at it this first show with the
new year, seven hundredule Do Gowty, Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
How dumb you have.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
To be to break the windows at the house of
the Vice President? I see that's a different level of
dumb right there. Secret Service called for CPD at quarter
after twelve on January fifth, this morning, after someone was
running eastbound after breaking a couple of windows in the
back of Jade Vance's house.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
I get politics and how divided we are and how
angry people are, But at what point you pick up
a rock and throw it through the president of the
window of the president of the vice president the United States.
You know, most of us could probably have our window broken.
Somebody throw a rock through a break through your window
and you'd never catch the persons impossible. But this is
a different level of stupidity because of the vice president.
Now you've got the federal government coming after you for

(19:17):
doing this. For God's sake. I don't. I've been angry before,
but now let's let's get myself thrown in a federal
person just so stupid. I wanted the family's home at
the time too. So there's a lot of concern there
as well, for sure. For sure, slow me back with
you here seven hundred WLWU talking to Markan Siolaco, doctor
Marcin Siloga to ud about what's happening in Venezuela, and

(19:39):
certainly was, well, I don't I think most of us,
you know, follow news, did you really see this coming?
Going Okay, well, we're we're blowing ships up and like,
and we talked about it, But did you really think
that at some point we would just swoop in and
take Maduro and bring them back to the United States,
you know, outside of the professional protester class, which there
was plenty of in Cincinnati this and by the way,

(20:01):
I'd say most people celebrate the fact that this guy
is out of power. That is a net positive this
whole thing, simply because of that regime and staying in
power and ignoring election results and the like. In the
fact that he's cut that country's GDP by like two
thirds since taken over. So there's a lot of Venezuelan's
expats who are celebrating that he is no longer in power. However,

(20:23):
care of what you wish for, you might just get it,
because when it comes to changing authoritarian regimes and turning
them to democracies, we're really we're not very good at it.
We've done it none of oka and smaller scales. But
this is pretty big, as Ensilaka was talking about. But
the idea now that if you're Russia in China, you
look at this going ooh, it's open season. Maybe the
United States, maybe we're finally it's time to rethink that

(20:45):
whole notion that you know, we're going to let countries
rise and fall become enemies of the United States. And
now we're maybe in the new area here of imperialism.
We're just going to start taking territories over. I mean,
you know, history does repeat itself, and we're seeing that.
We saw that with Russia. What's going on in Ukraine
and elsewhere. That may give Putin an opportunity to go, Okay,

(21:07):
well we're going to go after other states in that region.
China for sure, what happens with Taiwan, it feels like
it's almost a foregone conclusion. They're going to take the
Taiwan over and maybe the United States going well, instead
of all this heady, feel good, Hey, we've got to stand.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Up for democrat.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Maybe we should just go back to the way it
used to be before isolationism going Okay, now we're just
going to start taking territories over again, because as I said,
history repeats itself if you're going to go down that road. Yeah,
Venezuela and is certain of Venezuela certainly is one for
the oil, which we'll revisit in just a second here.
But over the holidays, and I often just in the

(21:43):
morning when I go get coffee, we'll just fire a
couple curing pods and my cure egg and take that
because you know, get it out the door, ready to
go and drink in my coffee. I don't have to
wait in line, get off the highway and anything like that.
It's about simplicity for me. Plus, I'm just a creamer guy. Coffee,
dark dark roast coffee with a little creamer in it,

(22:04):
and that makes me happy at my one big cup
of coffee a day. Generally, I'm a one cup of coffee,
big cup of caf eighteen ounce cup a day in
the morning to get going, and sometimes I mean even
more than that. But when you're out over the holidays,
obviously stop and grab a couple of coffee. Because Michelle
same way. She just drinks it. She drinks HER's black,
a little sweetener in it. And it was over ten bucks.

(22:26):
I'm looking at them. It's not like I had some
sort of you know, whipped top. I had whipped cream
and sprinkles, and I had a soy latte and extra
ones like a gallon size. It's just like two cups
of good sized cups of coffee. But still like, damn,
that's expensive. If we're going after imperial as, if we're
starting to take countries over, can I make a suggestion?

(22:46):
How about Columbia? I know, I think Brazil is the
biggest exporter of coffee, but Brazil feels like, kind of
maybe that's just a bit too far. We're taking places.
Columbia seems more acceptable. I think they're just below bra
for coffee exportation. She'd be like, why don't we start
If we took Columbia over, could could that bring the
cup of coffee down to you know, what's reasonable? A

(23:08):
couple of bucks. I just I just I'm making suggestions.
I'm just spitballing. As long as we're taking as long
as we're invading countries and putting our regimes there, could
we could we start a wish list places says like, okay,
if we took over most of Latin Mexico, you just
think that one's like, Wow, it'd take care of the

(23:30):
border issue for sure.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
But I don't think we we can.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
We can barely manage the United States, right, And then
some make a good argument going, we can't even handle
run in this country, and now we're expanding our territory.
I'm just saying, but as long as we're doing corporate
takeovers here, it's like, okay, when the next on the list,
I don't know about Cuba, it'd be nice for you know, vacation,
they believe it or not, despite the terrible regime that's

(23:54):
been there for a long time. One of the one
of the biggest environmentals you talk about, like the reefs
and stuff like that. I guess it's pristine. I've never been,
but I've heard it's like, yeah, they really, they really
take care of the environment off the Coasta, So you know,
Are we gonna start to see out on McDonald's and
Starbucks pretty soon and in Cuba? If we do that,
Mexico comes to Greenland to be another one? Or are

(24:15):
we gonna invade Greenland at some point here for the
natural resources and expanding our foot pritty from Mark No, No,
But can we move Columbia up a little bit? It
seems like that's a country now? In Columbia, Well, don't
they do drugs? Generally coffee, but coco. It's an we
just take that one. That'd be one like no one
had noticed. It's like when we made Hawaii the fifties state.

(24:37):
It's like, hey, Alaska, Wi sure, why not? God for sake?

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yeah, it's nice, that's tropical. So we got a little Yeah, okay,
let's do that.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
I'm gonna advocate for the expansion of the Columbia next
to bring down the damn coffee prices.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Beef would be another one. I guess, yeah, that's a
good one. Go for the beef. But you know, we
had a drought, we had disease. That's probably going to
right the ship.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
There is going to write, But I don't know if
we just take over a country and go get some
argent argent You know, do you take over Argentina in
that matter too to get the beef prices down?

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Were just where does this keep going? Is be the
big question?

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Something else happening this week, and the first with the
key of the year would be the Consumer Electronics Show
in Vegas. If you're a guy, generally speaking, it kind
of like techie stuff and some of the ones to
look for this year at the consumer electronics shows, By
the way, was founded in nineteen sixty seven. Hard to
believe it's been going on that long. I wonder I
have to go back and look and see what was

(25:36):
the hot tech in nineteen sixty seven. Probably bigger color TVs.
I'd imagine that doesn't change this year. There's a new
technology out there called micro RGB. I'm guessing the RGB
is red, green, blue, and that is the next generation
in color and contrast. I suppose because we had a
micro LEDs now and I guess micro RGB is the
next generation of making your TV pop. They have and

(25:59):
I think this issung one hundred and thirty inch micro
RGBTV and I think they have thrown the I don't
know if this is the trend or not. But they
might be throwing the towel in on wall mounted TVs
because most people don't wal mount the flat mounts. I'm
sick in the head and I like doing that stuff,

(26:19):
so yeah, I'll run the cable and electrical and hide
the chords and all that stuff as well.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Most people just you know, put it on.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
A pedestal or have the chords hanging down and get
you know, eleven extension chords out and do it that way.
And maybe they're throwing the townel because this thing is
one hundred and thirty inch TV that is framed by
a giant metal I got.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
The best way to call it. This is an easel,
so picture it.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
It's a big rectangular frame, thin steel frame, and then
inset in the frame on little pivot points on the
axis is the TV itself, so you can kind of
tilt it like a like a mirror almost, But the
frame sits on the ground and it covers up obvious
one hundred and thirty inches most of the hole and

(27:01):
you would mount your TV that way, so it just
stands alone now, which is kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Actually.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Price tagging this bad boy, the one hundred and thirty
incher thirty thousand dollars, So now maybe not for most
of us, if not all of us at that point
thirty thousand dollars TV, and that's probably more of a
proof of concept thing I would guess is that you know,
future ones are going to be a little smaller and
more accessible, but still when they roll out this new stuff,
obviously very cost prohibitive. They also doing a new line

(27:29):
of speakers will look kind of cool. They've got a
new sound bar out that is a seven point one
point two soundbar and the point two, I guess would
mean two subwolfers in it, thirteen drivers and four subwiffers.
Wonder how much of that thing weighs. Hang that on
your wall and possibly the coolest to encounter. There's some
and there's some gaming stuff new VR head where headsets
and things like that. But this is an interesting one

(27:51):
with AI integrated into everything right now is one I
must be a TV where AA you can use AI
AI speakers to cancel out announcers. For example, So if
you don't like a lot of people, certainly not here
in Cincinnati, not fans of Chris Collinsworth, you you can

(28:12):
have any AI take out Chris collins Worth. I don't
know that's good for the future of art business.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Here my quote. Sure, if you don't like the sound
of someone's voices, that's it. AI.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
You can turn the commentators off in sporting events and
just have the crowd noise, which is that's kind of interesting.
Sometimes you really don't need it. Depending on the sport too,
you really don't. Do you really need to play by
play as much? I mean, look at what ESPN's done
with the paytent cast right where it's not you know,
you don't have the play by play games. Guys just
talking about it like you're sitting around a bar or

(28:46):
something like that with a sound down. I suppose that's
the next iteration of that, is AI noise canceled, canceling
out the announcers or I guess other things that you
don't want to hear during a game. I'm know you
can take the crowd noise out, just hear the announce
I suppose you could with AI. It's entirely possible, and
at some point you think you could be able to put,
you know, bring John Madden back to life and have
him do the content.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Where the where the where.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
AI basically takes the words of the current play by
play team, and I don't know, you could have Snoop
Dogg and Martha Stewart call a game if you wanted to.
They just used the words, but do it in their
own voices. The future is limitless, it really really is.
Don't know how much the AI canceling thing costs, but
it's not gonna be more than the thirty k at
Chine hundred and thirty inch TV. An amazing part about

(29:31):
that is it's, you know, as we talk about the
prices of things, and I was kind of tongue and
she talk about invading Columbia bring the coffee prices down.
I wonder, you know, in the future, if we start
looking when it comes to, you know, the cost of electron,
it's like electronics if you look back.

Speaker 5 (29:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
I was looking at something recently.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
It was kind of old school locally here and I think,
like a, I don't know, twenty five state of the
art nineteen seventy five or seventy seven, or or was
twenty five inch color TV console, you know, the big old'
common of the fake wood paneling, and it'd be like
the center play piece you're living. It's like five hundred
dollars for one of those TVs at twenty five inches,
and now I mean, how like for five hundred dollars

(30:10):
you can get a sixty inch TV and even bigger
for that matter, for much much cheaper. So that is
one thing when it comes to electronics, the cost of
that and the accessibility has become much much better than
it has in the past, despite inflation and all that.
And you mentioned the oil thing, and we've talked about
the Venezuela and oil. I think it's interesting. You know,
the idea here is we're going to have cheaper oil,

(30:31):
and I still think I know people disagree, but you know,
the whole drug thing was a pretext because we want
to get the oil. But you know, if you think
about it, it's oil right now is pretty cheap. No
one's really complaining about gas price. Is the one thing
Trump can turn to, even though presidents generally don't have
a big hand in that, is the fact that you know,
gas prices have gone down since he's taken over, and

(30:52):
I think this is probably a way politically to exacerbate that,
and like, hey, look we're gonna get really serious about energy,
energy costs, an accessibility to oil. You know, we're already
drilling in the golf. We open the golf back up
Golf of America or Mexico if you're old school to
drilling there. But the other side of that, though, is
too is like, well, if gas already cheap, then what

(31:13):
incentive do gas manufactured the people who actually go out
and get the gas and drill these companies, why would
they go to Venezuela. First of all, it's all up
in the air. You don't have any idea what's going
to happen with the regime. And it's not like, hey,
you go and it doesn't work out. It's not like
putting McDonald's in Moscow. Hey it doesn't work out, we
just close the store. I mean, you're talking about tens

(31:35):
of millions, if not billions of dollars in investment just
to start the process. And so if you put all
that capital into Venezuela and it's up in the air
as to what's going to happen with the regime there
and what's going to happen, why would you take that risk?
Wouldn't you just take that money and then just invest
it back into the Gulf of Mexico, the Golf of
America or the premium basin in Texas. You know that's

(31:58):
not going anywhere. And if I were oil baron which
I'm not, I put my money in the known commodity.
We're safe. There's a certain amount of risk just thrilling
for oil. If you watch Landman, you get it. I
think a decent I always talk to us. Should have
got a guest come up and ask him about that.
How real Landman is. But yeah, its cost it. It's
incredible on money and risky to try and drill for oil.

(32:21):
I mean it's risky enough here in the States, in
the Permian basin. It's going to be much much risk
here to invest with all that money in Venezuela, considering
the political climate and what the hell's going to happen.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Can't imagine. No, we're gonna do this and we're just
gonna run it.

Speaker 5 (32:35):
You know.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
I think we're going to start taking the oil reserves
out quickly.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
I don't know if that's gonna happen or not quite honestly,
but we shall see, we shall see. We've got news
on the way in about seven eight minutes here on
seven hundred WW Richard Harrison stands by with the Hamil
County Water District. You hear a lot about microplastic in
this time of year as we start to ramp up
the news cycle again because there's really not a hell
of a lot going outside of Venezuela. You hear about
a lot about microplastics and what of the fact that

(33:00):
fiction here when it comes to our drinking water here
in the Tri State for sure. So he'll jump in
next later on the show, Julie Hattersheer and Scott angel
Is the oil expert I was talking about and what
this actually means for energy prices all to some war.
We'll talk to Scott about in just a few minutes
as well. Breaking news out of Cleveland this morning, Kevin
Stefanski has been fired as the Browns head coach. He

(33:24):
goes out with a win yesterday at PEKR Stadium. So
the Browns fired their head coach despite the fact they won.
No word about our coach and Zach Taylor and Cincinnatian
one would believe that his job is safe because I
think with the I think of this organization you have
if you go to the playoffs, but let alone with
the Super Bowl, you're good for fifteen years. I really

(33:48):
believe that's the case. Now you went to the Super Bowl.
Wait a year five, You're fine, No big deal, think Stefanski.
I'm sure they're gonna Bengals fans going, well, what about
bringing Kevin Stefanski down. He wouldn't have to change driver's license.
That's true. It's a big plus because it's a pain
in the butt going the d I don't care who
you are, how much money you have, you got to
go to the DMV yourself to change your driver's license.

(34:09):
It could be incentive there for him to come to Cincinnati,
But how much of an upgrade really? I think you're
getting an upgrade, but I don't know it could be
all that much. With Stefanski, two time Coach of the
Year is pretty good and as we know, it's not
Zach Taylor and willing to give him a pass or
sometimes simply because things have to change relative to the
personnel that you draft, but also go back to what
you did a few years ago free agency, hopefully to decide, hey,

(34:33):
we're going to go in and push our chips in
the middle of the table. Now do they have the
resources in the front office to get that kind of talent? Well,
they have in the past, it's easier to get talent
and free agency than it is to draft. And you know,
with the NFL Draft coming on end to April, and
it's not like we keep hearing ay, yeah, they've ad
more bodies and specialists and the like in order to
assert discern which which players to get which not. So

(34:54):
you know, we still manage to have the smallest scouting
staff and all of the National Football League despite any
a few bodies, but we're woefully behind that category. That
those are the things that have to change if you
hope for success in the future at the Bengals, because
right now it looks like that Super Bowl run was
just in the AFC Championship games were lightning in a bottle,
like we had a bunch of guys got you, no
one saw it coming, and you were able to take

(35:15):
over the league. Well, now the rest of league has
caught up and surpassed you in so many ways, let
alone the defense. But anyway, Kevin Stefanski gone the next
head coach. I don't know if you're gonna hear any
more today. I would think that after the wild card run,
if you get some teams that wind up losing in
the wild Card rown next week weekend, you're gonna hear
maybe some more coaching changes if there's some upsets in
there as well. Anyway, we got all that morek to come,

(35:35):
including news in about five here on the home of
the best Bengals coverage. Let's change that the home of
the Reds seven hundred WW Cincinnati.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
Do want to be an American idiot?

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Twenty twenty six got so long?

Speaker 1 (35:48):
But on seven hundred WW had I hope you had
an enjoyable one, be it Christmas, New Years or whatever
the hell does you do?

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Get some downtime for you? That's good.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
One of the things you don't think about, So it's
a good time to I don't know, touch on these
things this time of here, when it slows down a
little bit, to put your little thinking hat on would
be the state of our water supply.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Well, often don't think about that.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Right you turn your tap on, you have a glass
of water, you make, boil, some pasta, something along the
lines wherever, you don't think too much about it. As
we know, for years now we have started to learn
more and more about microplastics that are in our water system,
and of course enough of that in you will kill
you because it's a known carcinogen.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
So what is the state of our water supply here
in the Buckeye State.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
There's been a lot with the EPA that's been made
and special federally Ohio EPN or Mike and Whine did
this a few years to get a study to find
out where the stuff is coming from, to try and
figure out the source. And if you look at a
map of our local water treatment plants, we have two
big ones here. We have the Richard Miller Frank Harris
Senior Treatment Plant that's the source of about oh ninety
percent of our water in Cincinnati, and then the other

(36:51):
one is the Cincinnati water Works facility I think up
in the in I want to say Fairfield area too
as well, that supplies some drinking water. But I don't
know much about that other than I turned the foster
to the shower head on and stuff comes out, and
I hope it's okay to drink and use. The guy
that could tell me not to do that is Richard Harrison.
He's the executive Director and chief engineer for the Ohio

(37:11):
River Valley Water Sanitation Commission known as ARONSCO.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Richard, welcome back.

Speaker 5 (37:15):
To the show.

Speaker 6 (37:15):
Good to have you. Thank you, Scott. I appreciate you
inviting me to join you today.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Yeah, I know this is well. I mean, I guess
what comes out of the faucet. It's outside of your
scope because you do more with intake in the waterways.
But that's where this thing starts. If we can stop
this stuff from getting into the water, it's a more
cost effective solution than trying to treat it to the end.
It's always the case, is whether it's this or healthcare
or anything else for that matter. But let's start with
the pfas saying what do we need to know about this,

(37:42):
where does it come from, and what are the links
to our health?

Speaker 4 (37:47):
Well.

Speaker 6 (37:47):
PFASs is a very complex group of chemicals and the
technical name for them is per and polypori alcohol substances.
As you correctly noted, p FOSS is how they are
known through their acronym, and they are a group of
man made chemicals that are found everywhere. They're applied to
many consumer goods to make them waterproof, stain resistant, or

(38:10):
non stick. They're also used in products like cosmetics, fast
food packaging, and types of firefighting foam. Specifically, something called
a triple F so they're essentially everywhere. They're very long
lasting chemicals by design, they're man made chemicals, and that
was the attraction to them back in the forties when

(38:31):
these chemicals were identified and created and put together because
of those tendencies that they last an extensive period of time.
It can take several years for them the breakdown within
our bodies. That's why there's also culled furbal chemicals.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Okay, so what happens is kind of like a lead poisoning.
For example.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
We know your body doesn't create a waste product for it.
It accumulates, So the more you're exposed to it, the
more it builds up in your body.

Speaker 6 (38:59):
Absolutely, and because they can come from from anywhere, many
many pathways, and of course we're talking about drinking water
as one of those pathways, but certainly they come from
other pathways the air, food products, again, clothing. So it's
a challenge.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Well, your job is tasked with trying to prevent it
from getting in the drinking water supply in the first place.

Speaker 6 (39:24):
How's that going, Well, maybe we can step back and
just talk about the process. So USCPA has invested a
lot of resources in trying to determine how to remove
these chemicals from many different sources. And we're talking about

(39:44):
drinking water, so as we talked about the rivers and
waters what we work with within the Higowa Basin. Of course,
the Higher River is the largest body of water. They're
approaching this from several different directions. Of course, drinking water
is one which we're talking about to day, but also
there's something called the Clean Water Act, so we're talking

(40:05):
about the Safe Drinking Water Act, and we talked about
maximum contaminate levels and regulations for utilities. But also when
you talk about the Clean Water Act, you're talking about
the sources of water, and we talk about making water fishable, swimmable,
and drinkable. And that's ensuring that the Higher River and
other surface waters are suitable for fish being able to

(40:28):
live and survive bugs, macro verbrates, but also for human
health we consume fish, and also the utilities have to
have a water supply that is safe, so that's a
whole other area. We're expecting to have draft criteria for
the surface waters for human health later this summer, and

(40:50):
that's really when Orsenko we'll get more involved with our
partner states to really figure out what's next?

Speaker 4 (40:58):
All right?

Speaker 2 (40:59):
So we should people be freaking out about this.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
I mean, it's been it's you said, it's been the
better ren since the forties, and it's taken a while
for getting our drinking water. And it's probably a case
where our equipment and our testing abilities have gotten much
much better, more granular, if you will. And so we're
now we're seeing stuff we never could see before. But
we know that this is a known cursin egen, that
it causes some bad things to happen within the human body,

(41:23):
and obviously we want to prevent that as well. But
how concerned should we be? Do you drink out of
the water the water you're talking about? You turning your
faucet on, you're drinking tap? Are you doing doing bottle?

Speaker 5 (41:31):
Richard?

Speaker 6 (41:33):
I do tap? So I used to be the vice
president of engineering, production and Distribution for North Kentucky Water District,
one of the large utilities on the High River. And
we're very fortunate that Kentucky Water District. Then, of course,
gar used to state water works to the majority of
their water adds grainuar activated carbon treatments to their process

(41:56):
and that has been shown to be very effective. Ever,
removing carbon.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
But I drink tap water.

Speaker 6 (42:02):
I feel very comfortable with it. A lot of discussion
here is about overall risk. These compounds are everywhere. I'm
very proud to be part of a water resource sector
that works so hard to protect our drinking water supply
in our river. So I think it's a matter of

(42:22):
risk and balancing risk, and there's a lot we don't know.
There are over let's see here. Let me make sure
I give you the right information. But we're talking about
over one hundred and sixty million chemicals are known through
the World Health Organization, about eighty five thousand of these
USCPA lists on the Inventory of substances through the Toxic

(42:46):
Substances Control Act. There are over four thousand pifoss chemicals
in less than one hundred are regulated through MCL. So
this is extremely complex. You covered it very well when
you mentioned we're learning more. We now know that through
EPA toxicity studies that there's actually more p huss in

(43:06):
rain water than is considered to be protective in terms
of human health. And so this is very complex. So
there's a lot we don't know, and it's a matter
of just balancing risk. We all pay for this response
through as customers. So we're customers of wonderful water utilities,

(43:27):
wastewater utilities, and it's just a matter of how much
investment goes into this and benefit costs ratios. So this
is very complex, but it's certainly not something I'm losing sleepover,
but it is important that we continue to understand these
chemicals and remove them at the sources if possible.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
Well, that's the key, because it goes in the rain water,
then that goes to water our crops, the food that
we eat goes into our drinking water through groundwater, through
the rivers and streams, et cetera, et cetera. Richard Harrison,
active Director and Chief Engineer for the Ohio River Valley
Water Sanitation Commission ARONSCO is what they're called. These are
the folks who test our drinking water. And there's concern

(44:08):
over something called pifos p fas, and those are basically
microplastics that accumulate in your body. So plastics do break
down to some degree that gets in the drinking water
and it's so fine that the filtration systems in the
carbon it doesn't catch that, and it builds up in
your body over time and it's a known carcinogen. We
don't know the long term I mean, I guess we
do know the long long term effects. But that is

(44:29):
the current target now for water treatment people like Richard
to try and eliminate that from our water system, if
that's indeed possible. Now, Ohio, we're still pretty good considering
other states New Jersey probably manufacturing and military, Michigan more
automotive manufacturing, and therefore you have a lot of chemicals
that are in the groundwater supply, which is why they're

(44:50):
seeing levels that are over the top.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Here in Ohio not as much.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
However, I will say that I was looking at two
of our bigger plants here, the Harris Treatment plant to
ge it provides about ninety percent of Cincinnati's water. They
didn't find any measurable levels there, But if you go
up to Fairfield, the plant there said they were almost
in the danger zone. It's really not that far away
as far as distance goes. But how do you describe

(45:14):
the disparity one plant showing no results the other one.
The Neil's moving pretty well well, Skot.

Speaker 6 (45:21):
You talked a little bit earlier in our conversation about
the technology and the level of detections. What I find
fascinating is through uscpa's research, and to be clear or
Senko does not work in the toxicology end of things.
We work in the monitoring response to skills. I spoke

(45:42):
with you last year about our response to these Palestine
chemical train derailment still and so our area is working
on the water quality and one of the challenges we
have is now UCPA has determined that the levels of
these are in the parts for quadrulean, and the technology
to actually measure these are into parts of petroleum. So

(46:03):
we're trying to find these and levels that are a
thousand times more stringent then we can actually measure them.
So it is something that is a challenge. And so
when you talk about disparities between cretent plants, it's important
to understand that when USCPA puts together these types of regulations,

(46:23):
they're looking at a lifetime risk and it's based upon
an average person around one hundred and fifty pounds, which
I certainly am over that, but they're looking at consuming
a half gallon of water every day over seventy years
and a one in a million increase in cancer risk.
And we're very fortunate to have this type of work

(46:48):
to protect us from a risk standpoint, But it is
important to understand what goes into these types of calculations
and they are determined in a way to be very
protective of human hell, so the variations, you know, we're
talking about parts petrillion, it's really difficult to even measure
these below four parts petrilliu in terms of accuracy. And

(47:10):
so this is an evolving science and we're only talking
about a handful out of four thousand pfus chemicals. So
it's something that there'll be more work in this USCPA
every five years does what they.

Speaker 4 (47:26):
Call a.

Speaker 6 (47:28):
Contaminant monitoring process the Safe Drinking Water Act, and there's
over twenty of these being looked at in the current ones.
So this is an ongoing effort.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Richard Harrison, what may ask, are we just trying to
scare people the compliance and you're telling me the equipment
we have can't even measure and the great greatest detail
of what this stuff is in our bodies. I mean,
let's face it, the air that we breathe, the milk
that we drink, the food we consume, it all has
something toxic in it. I mean, you know there's arsenic
in our food, but it's trace amounts. There's rat poop
in your cheerios, but it's trace amounts. Is any different.

Speaker 6 (48:02):
I'm very proud to work in a field that is
so protective. USCPA follows the law to say Drinking Water
Act when they put this together. I'm not the right
person to talk about toxic coology. I will say that
risk is a question and it's something that we have
to look at. They're doing their job, they're looking at

(48:23):
the science as where they's drinking water. But as you say,
there is risk from everything, and so just the water infrastructure.
You know, I always like to say every dollar we
invest as customers in a new regulation makes it harder
to put that dollar in replacement of water bots. And
so it's something that is very complex and we all

(48:44):
have to be engaged in this. We have to understand it.
We're the ones that are paying for this through our
rates as customers, and I'm knowing working with our utilities,
we're lucky to have incredible drinking water utilities in our areas.
So I'm not going to touch a political question. That's
not where our sinker gets gets involved. But it's a
fair question to talk about the overall risk and just balancing.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
That because you hear this stuff and people usually it's
new parents start freaking out about this stuff and they
start washing there.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
You know, they have their dishwasher.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
Water coming out of a giant bottle of Desani and
it's cost prohibitive and everything else. If I use like
a Britta filter on top of my tap water, does
a Britta filter take this stuff out or reverse osmosis?

Speaker 6 (49:29):
Well, I won't talk about Britta because it's a brand name,
but I will say that there are filters that can
be added if if folks want to do that, they can.
They can certainly contact their their doctors if they're if
they're concerned about this. So keep in mind that the
SDA currently is not regulating bottle of water for pifoss

(49:50):
and so this is very complex. I would I would
just talk to folks in which I'm doing, and just
that it's all. It's all about balance, it's understanding how
complex this is. And USCPA is doing their job, or
State EPA is Ohio EPA, Kentucky Divisional Water, Indiana Department

(50:12):
Environment Management, they all work within this area. They're they're
working as hard as they can on this and This
is complex and it's all about managing risk in safety
and following the lulls that that we we have approved
through Congress, say Drinking Water Act, Clean Water Acting. So
that's what USCPA is trying to do. They would have
they would be the ones to talk to you about

(50:34):
all the science behind it. This is very complex.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
Scott, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
I mean, if if you're so inclined, you know, you
could do a filter system. I use the word britt
of because it's like clean X or Jello. It's a
it's a brand name that's become common. And I look
at this and go, okay, yeah, look at the risk.
Listen to what you had to say. You know, you're
drinking the tap water. You see this stuff under a microscope.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
We don't. And if it's good enough for you, it's
good enough for me.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
I sleep well knowing that the drinking water being policed
by yourself, people like yourself, and you're more at the
source end. We talked during the East Palestine disaster about
the plume that was traveling down the Ohio River. You
guys had it all timed out saying, oh, we're tracking it.
Everything's good.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
It moved out. It dissipated and all is well at
this point too.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
So if you want to lose sleep over this and
get down a rabbit hole, I'm sure there's stuff online
that'll scare the hell out of you. However, it is
safe to say that most of us aren't one hundred
and fifty pounds. I would like to talk next to
if you, I'm gonna have Richard as a guy who
sets the average weight for Americans because I think he's
a little drunk.

Speaker 6 (51:35):
Well that's that's the science behind develop these criterias. But
I'm not near one hundred and fifty pounds.

Speaker 7 (51:42):
I just flew.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
I just flew, and there are maybe two people on
the plane there were one hundred and fifty pounds, and
it included the toddlers.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
So yeah, well, I mean it's true.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
So what you're saying is if you weigh more, then
you can absorb, you can absorb more p foss or
is that true or.

Speaker 6 (51:59):
I'm not gonna really say that. What I'm saying is
the background that USCPA uses to complete their studies, and
so it's important to understand when criteria put out it's
it's based on a specific methodology that they follow from
a science basis.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
I was trying to make an excuse and say, see
that's the upside to obesity. You can.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Richard Harrison, the executive director, is the chief engineer at
the Ohio River Valley Water Sanitation Commission. He's the guy
policing our water sources in and around Ohio and elsewhere.
And Richard, I appreciate you coming on the show. I
know I didn't want you talking out over your skis
a little bit there. I asked you some questions that
were outside of your scope, but I appreciate you coming
on and trying to give us a basic understanding whether

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or not our drinking water is safe.

Speaker 6 (52:46):
And it sounds like it is always a pleasure. Scott,
take care.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
Thank you once again, and we've got a news update
in just minutes. Here our first Mental Health Monday update.
Julie Hattershar's next Scott's loan seven hundred w. Everyone needs
he every now and then, and she'sier to help us
get our heads right.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
This is Mental Health Monday with Mental health expert Julie Hattershire. Yeah,
first one of the new year.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Here we are on the fifth day of January and
the resolutions have been gone for four and a half days.
It's awesome. Four and a half days, Julie, welcome back.
How are you, my friend?

Speaker 7 (53:20):
Hey, I'm great. Happy New Year.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Yeah, it's just too hard to do those resolutions, lose
the way to exercise, like, yeah, you know what, I'm good? Well, yeah,
what you feel like at this point too? Being the
fifth of January, the year's almost over.

Speaker 5 (53:33):
So till twenty twenty why bother?

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I'll start fresh twenty twenties up?

Speaker 4 (53:38):
Why not?

Speaker 1 (53:39):
That's the big I don't know how many people actually
do resolutions or try to stick to them, but it's
our old friend will power. Willpower is a tough mother,
isn't it.

Speaker 7 (53:47):
Will Power is really hard. It's you know, it is
easy to start to lose focus on things over the
course of a day or a week, and will power
and making decisions consistently is hard. So one of the
things that I thought we could talk about today is
what you should put sort of on autopilot and create
habits around and what you should maybe be more intentional

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and mindful about, because you can't be intentional and mindful
about everything, all right?

Speaker 2 (54:13):
So what does that mean?

Speaker 7 (54:15):
Well, so there's this concept called decision fatigue, and we
all wake up with a certain amount of energy every
day and it varies, right, But the more decisions we
have to make over the course of a day, the
more it becomes difficult to make another decision. Just like
you know, it's a muscle that you use. The more
you work your muscle, sometimes the harder it becomes to

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continue to do that. So one of the things that
we wanted to talk about was what are the kinds
of things that you should build habits around that you
should put on autopilot and give very little thought to,
And what are the things that it makes sense to
be more careful and more mindful about and optimize for
because you can't put everything on autopilot, and you certainly

(54:58):
can't be mindful and optimized for everything. And if you
can decide what to do what with, then that helps
keeping whatever your resolutions are or reaching whatever your goals are,
that helps make that a little bit easier.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Okay, all right, so let's start with that jump in.
Take me through that.

Speaker 5 (55:13):
Okay, So okay, So.

Speaker 7 (55:16):
What we know about building habits is that it takes
a few weeks for your brain to wire an activity
into a habit. The timeline varies, but let's just say.

Speaker 5 (55:27):
A few weeks.

Speaker 7 (55:28):
And so if we think of things like most of
us brush our teeth at least a couple of times
a day in the morning and before we go to bed.
This is not something we think about.

Speaker 4 (55:36):
We just do this.

Speaker 7 (55:37):
That's the kind of habit that we want to build
around some things, and it takes a few weeks to
be able to do that. So if one of your resolutions,
and for many people it is, is to become more
physically fit, then what you probably need to consider doing
and is building a routine of building a habit around
going to the gym or getting up and working out,
or going after work and working out, whatever your plan is,

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and start doing that consistently for several weeks until it
becomes automatic. You don't think about it anymore. You're not
wondering whether you're.

Speaker 6 (56:07):
Going to go.

Speaker 7 (56:08):
You've already got your gym bag passed, your clothes laid out,
you're ready to rock and roll. And then you've automated that.
You don't have to think about it anymore. So now
you have brain power and energy for other things.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
All right, well, that makes sense, right, You lay your
clothes out, the day before, so you're ready to go.
It's one last thing you've got to make an excuse
for the day of, like, oh, I can't find my
shoes wherever they are, so I'll just skip it today.
But if it's all ready to go, then you wake
up and you know you can focus on other things.

Speaker 7 (56:35):
That makes sense exactly so often. Another one that people
have is they want to eat healthier throughout the week,
and so one of the things that can be really
helpful is to come up with ten or twelve dinners
that you know you like, that you have easy ingredients for,
and that you know fit your lifestyle and your family's tastes,
and put those on rotation. So you just run through

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that list. If it's tacos on Tuesday, then it was
on you on Thursday, then it's something else on Sunday.
You just run through the list. You don't have to
wonder what you're going to make. You don't have to
wonder whether you have the ingredients. You keep everything on hand,
and you just roll through that. And if you do
ten or twelve over the course of a month, since
most people don't eat home every night of the month,

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you're probably only going to have that meal a couple
of times a months, and if it's something you like,
that's not a bad thing. But you've automated the dinner process.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
Okay, Well, what about if your problem is portion control?
Are you just going to eat all five beers in
one night?

Speaker 4 (57:37):
Now? What do you do?

Speaker 5 (57:37):
Smart?

Speaker 4 (57:38):
Ask?

Speaker 2 (57:38):
Give me an answer to that.

Speaker 7 (57:40):
That's where you need to be more mindful. That's one
of those decisions, one of those situations where you need
to be a little more careful and you need to
think how much should I actually eat? How hungry am I? Truly?
What have I had over the course of my day
to day. But if you don't have to autumn, if
you don't have to think about all of the things
you're doing over the course of the day, then you
have more brain power for the things that actually require

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some willpower, some decision making, some care.

Speaker 5 (58:04):
And some thought.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Okay, Or you could just maybe prepackage the portions up
and then do it that way too.

Speaker 7 (58:09):
Exactly exactly, and a lot of people do that. They
do meal prep for breakfast and lunch, They prepackage everything.
Some people do it for dinner as well, and then
there's your meal, it's already done. You don't have to
think about it, and so that's one less thing you
have to think about, so you can focus on other things,
put your energy toward other things that actually make a
positive impact on your life or help you reach your goals.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
Okay, but when we know that that pattern setting takes
about what good thirty to forty days or something like that.

Speaker 7 (58:36):
True, Yeah, it takes a few weeks. It depends on
the pattern and depends on how quickly you adapt, but
it takes a few weeks. And what we know is
that once the brain has that pattern set, it can
be really difficult to break, which is why sometimes we
need to be careful and mindful about the things that
we already have on autopilot and we need to maybe
take a look at them and say, is this actually

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serving my goals and my needs? Is this really the
best way to do it? So, for example, I tend
to drive to work the same way every day. It
uses a highway. Sometimes it's full and packed and crowded,
and sometimes it's not. There actually is a better way
for me to get to work. I just don't do it.
So I need to be more mindful about optimizing my
drive to work and less habitual about that so that

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I end up getting there faster and with less stress.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
Part of this too, you know, as much as creatures
and habits, our brains actually like some sense of not
like a new challenge they.

Speaker 7 (59:33):
Do, and brains are energy conserving, they want to do
things the easiest possible way. But our reward centers are Dopamine,
which is our reward center of our brain likes new challenges,
It likes rewards, It likes accomplishment, it likes to be engaged,

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and it likes novelty, and so we tend to crave
that as much as we tend to crave habitual expectable results.
And so it's a balance between what are we going
to reward our brain with dopamine for and what are
we going to automate so that we have more energy
and more time available to do the things that actually

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are rewarding to us. Yes, our brains crave.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
Novelty, all right, So we've got to tap into that element.
But again, after three or four repetitions, or maybe a
couple of weeks, it becomes a pattern. You just kind
of fall into it. So it's interesting the way you
describe that, though it's all set up to succeed, and
yet we continue to fail.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Why is that?

Speaker 7 (01:00:35):
Because I think to some extent, we are habitualizing the
wrong things and rewarding the habitualizing and rewarding the wrong things.
So if we look at social media, for example, social
media is something that many of us habitually go to
when we have any downtime on our hands at all,
rather than doing something that might be productive in our lives.

(01:00:59):
We scroll, we doom scroll, we Facebook, we instagram, we whatever.
There are rewards associated with that. We get the dopamine
hits of the quick fixes of information and pictures and engagement,
but it actually doesn't serve us very well. So we've
got the habit of going to social media. It has
the rewards associated with it, but it isn't actually serving

(01:01:22):
our goals, our development, our life in any significant way.
Although the social media gurus would hate to hear me
say that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
That's true, it's true.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
And often the ones that are going to be better
for you are not ones is enjoyable social media or
I don't know, drinking or eating, whatever it might be.
What are your habits, you know, sitting down a TV
and mindless eating a bag of cheetos for example, that's
a tough habit to break, it.

Speaker 7 (01:01:47):
Is, and that's tough because it's got the reward associated
with the flavor of the cheetos and the mindlessness of
the TV. But it's got the habitual thing that that's
what they do when I get home from work, I
grab a bag of cheetos, they sit down in front
of the TV, or a crack a beer. I open
a bottle of wine and pour myself a glass. A
minute I walk in the door. That's the habit part
of it, and the reward part of it is the wine,

(01:02:08):
the cheetos, the TV, the beer, whatever. And so when
those two things combine, when you've got the habitual and
the reward, it becomes very difficult to break because the
mindlessness of the habit makes it just happen before you've
even thought about it, and the reward.

Speaker 5 (01:02:24):
Keeps you coming back for more nature.

Speaker 7 (01:02:26):
So it's about understanding which one you need to tackle first.
Do you tackle the reward first, remove the reward, or
do you tackle the habitual part. Remove the habit and
make it a more mindful thing, make it harder to
get the cheetos right right?

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
Okay, it just sounds like kind of This is what
high level athletes do, right, is that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
You know the automating, the healthy habits it becomes you know,
you practice and practice and practice. For example, golf swing
could be throwing a football whatever, and then in a
game situation, you don't think about it just automatically happens exactly.

Speaker 7 (01:02:59):
So let's use golf swing for an example. So most
I don't play golf, but I know a lot of
people who do, and I know that you do. Have
you ever changed your grip or tried to change your
swing all the time?

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
I hate my game, okay, okay, and so I think
I need a psychologist actually probably more than a code.

Speaker 7 (01:03:18):
At first, that's a really hard thing to do, and
it feels really awkward and it doesn't feel natural or
and it doesn't seem to work at first. And then
the longer you stick with it, the more you build
the habit, the more practice you build in, the more
automated and muscle memory it becomes, the more effective and fluid.
Ideally your swing or your grip becomes. If not, then

(01:03:41):
you change it again, but ideally you practice it and
it becomes and then it becomes automatic. Then you don't
have to think about it. Then you have taken that
decision making and that thought process out of it. It's
now muscle memory. You can just swing. So that's an
example of taking something that is new, doing it often
enough that it becomes ahead of it, and then you
don't have to think about that. You can think about

(01:04:02):
other things to do with your golf game.

Speaker 5 (01:04:05):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
You know, I've spoken so elchoin from someone who doesn't golf.
You just don't understand how easy and important to get
in your own head.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
It's one they go, well, your.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Practice and practice you just become second nature and you
just go out there and then no, you don't. You
sit there and you obsess about every little thing in
your swing and your back swing and your grip and
all these things, and it totally closed your head and
you're shank into the woods.

Speaker 7 (01:04:26):
Actually, I do know that I was married to the
golfer for a long time and I know a lot
of them. It is it is a game that gets
in your head, isn't it. And so the more that
you can habitualize and ritualize things, because this is another
thing that all leave lead athletes do. They ritualize things.
You see it all the time when guys go up
to do free throws in basketball, they have their little routine.

(01:04:48):
They bounce it, bounce it, spin in their hands, bounce it,
bounce it, throw And that's how they set their body
up to know what's going to happen. And I'm sure
you do that in your golf game too, when you
get up to the te to address the ball, you
do the things, wiggle your feet, you do whatever it
is you do to get your body ready to do
what it knows it needs to do next. And so
the more you can really allow for that to happen,

(01:05:09):
the freer your brain can become. But I'm not saying
it's easy. I'm just saying it's possible.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
Right Well, this time of year, Julie hattersh here comes
down and talking about mental health.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
It comes down to.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
For most people, diet and exercises are two big ones.
And it may be I don't know, coming up being
better about money, for example, use that one as an
office that one. All right, We always talk about diet
and exercise, and it's no one how many people it
comes a habit. You like to ride peloton and those
and it becomes you know, it becomes a habit after
a while, but it's hard at first. But there's a

(01:05:43):
physical thing. What about something like like being better financially,
How does that work well.

Speaker 7 (01:05:50):
One of the things that you can do to help
yourself be better financially is to automate a lot of
your financial processes so that you don't have to talk.
So you can automate money going directly into a savings
account from your paycheck or from your bank account. You
can automate having your bills paid so that you don't
have to touch them. You can automate some things coming

(01:06:10):
out of your checking account instead of going on your
credit cards, so you don't have a big credit card
bill at the end of the month. The less you
have to actually think about it, the more systems you
set up, the better. James clear who wrote this really
wonderful book, Atomic Habits, and he's a guy, he's a
local guy, he's from Hamilton. He says, we don't rise
to the level of our goals, we fall to the

(01:06:31):
level of our systems, which I love. I just think
that's a brilliant thing to say. And so the more
systems you set up to take care of these things
for you, the less inclined you are and the less
able you will be to impulsively buy something. If you
don't have the money in your bank account, you're less
inclined to impulsively buy it. If you have a lower

(01:06:53):
limit on your credit cards and you can ask them
to lower your credit card limit, the less inclined you
are to impulsively buy something big. So you can set
up systems to guard rail your spending choices, if that's
something that you want to work on in the coming year.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
Very interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
She's Julie Hattershare, license, mental health therapist here in Sinncia.
It's mental Health Monday, first one this new year, and
this one is about patterns and failure and how to
come up with something that's going to stick in the
new year, regardless of it is because willpower does fade.
But if you are like an athlete that I'll say
practice is that free throw over and over and over
again once you get out to play it actually said,

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it's so ingrained in your pattern to behavior automatically do things,
and you can't apply that to the rest of your life.
What's things like healthy habits for example, So what happens
when automatic fails? Though there are times where you have
things set on autopilot and all of a sudden it
just doesn't work for you anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
What about that?

Speaker 7 (01:07:46):
Well, then maybe you need to reevaluate if that was,
If that still is the right autopilot for you to have,
maybe you need to take a look. This is a
time that you may need to take a more mindful
look at something you've consistently done habitually. Is that actually
the best way to do it now? Maybe it served
me then whatever then was, Maybe it doesn't serve me now,

(01:08:06):
So take a look, evaluate, assess what other options there
might be, see what else might work better for you.
Make some changes, and you will be able to do
that more easily because you freed up mental energy and
time from automating and sort of habitualizing and ritualizing other
things in your life that you can say, Okay, this's working,

(01:08:29):
and now this isn't making sense for me anymore, So
what can I do differently? How can I take a
look at doing that? And you'll have experience to back
that up. You can take a look at what other
options you might have and see if any of them
would be better for you. Not everything works all the time.
It's not a question of you set it and leave it.
But you set it and leave it until it doesn't
work for you anymore, and then you reevaluate and say,

(01:08:52):
what could I be doing differently going forward from here?

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
Okay, sounds easier said than done. Julie had or share
that license?

Speaker 6 (01:08:58):
Well it is.

Speaker 7 (01:08:58):
It's easy to say.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
Licensed metal health therapist out of Clifton at be Connected
dot care. You can reach her if you've got a
maybe a subject for a future conversation, idea problem you're having. Hey,
Julie at the letter B that's be Connected at dot care.
She joins to show Monday Mornings on metal Health Monday.
All the best, Thanks again, looking forward to a great
new year, me too, be well with news on the
way in just a couple of minutes when to return.

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At eleven oh seven, Scott Angeel is here. He's from
the Bayu. He's an oil man himself, oil expert. And
what does this venezuela mean? Venezuela mean? Okay, So we're
going to run the country, presumably to get oil out
of the ground, which has already been stated by the President,
Marco Ruby and everyone else. And we're going and take
those resources out outside of managing the country, which is

(01:09:45):
a whole different beast entirely. Let's say we actually do that.
What incentive is there for oil companies to go to Venezuela?
I mean think about this way. You have the premium
basin here in the United States, uh, and we know
that's not going anywhere whereas with Venezuela if the political
wins shift, if we don't do what we think we
want to do or have the the FRUI should do

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that make it come to fruition. Are these companies going
to go there and invest tens of billions of dollars
for something they might not get a return on investment.
And with oil prices being as well as they are
right now, is there incentive for oil companies to go
to Venezuela and do with the President hopes.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
A lot of questions.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
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on the Bayou this morning in Louisiana. He's with USA
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Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
Scott, welcome back. How you been happy new year?

Speaker 5 (01:11:40):
I am great. It is good to hear you, boy
Scott's Spector.

Speaker 8 (01:11:44):
Shout out to Cincinnati, appreciate all the good work you're
doing and happy to join the show this morning.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
What happened to your guy Joe Burrow this year? By
the way, Well, you know.

Speaker 8 (01:11:52):
If you could get me an offensive line over there
in Cincinnati, we could get you a two rings.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
We can't do everything for you.

Speaker 5 (01:11:57):
Can you give me an offensive line?

Speaker 4 (01:11:58):
Brother? I just need some.

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Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
You know, you got Chase and you got Burrow. Generally
you go to the playoffs it's just those two. But
you've got a thousand yard rusher. We've got a guy
named t Higgins who's pretty damn good as well. And
explain to me how the hell you can't make the
playoffs with that lineup?

Speaker 5 (01:12:15):
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Speaker 8 (01:12:16):
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over here, but I'll tell you what when the when
the Bengals on.

Speaker 5 (01:12:22):
Uh, It's it's hard to pull against Joe Burrow.

Speaker 8 (01:12:25):
What a tremendous individual that brought a lot of credibility
and fame to l issue with that undefeated national championship run.
We'll wish you all the best there in Cincinnati. We
know we got some great days coming. Jose Oh Warrior,
he just stood and don't give up. A great days
ahead for Cincinnati Bengals, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
All right, Scott, let's get down to it. We take
Maduro out. He's actually in uh. I guess it could
be a rain. He's being ranked today as a matter
of fact as we speak. But now this opens things
up in Venezuela as far as oil companies go. The
only problem with this logic, I think from your perspective
here keeping the pollics out, but keeping the it's about money,
it's about oil, and let's just say that it was

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a pretext the drugs, a pretext to get the oil.
But with oil prices as low as they are right now,
is there incentive for us, you know, drillers and these
big companies to go into Venezuela considering the political climate there,
because you're talking about you know, billions and billions of dollars.
Is that why it's hard to find someone to go

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in there right now, because they don't know what the
future is going to bring us in it just safe
for to invest in the permium basin here in the
United States.

Speaker 5 (01:13:30):
Yeah, I think that's right.

Speaker 8 (01:13:31):
I think at the end of the day, right business
or capital is deployed where capital is pret well, where
there's stability and there's an opportunity for a return. And
when you look at a third world country like Venezuela,
you often want to whether or not that American dollar
can can flow there and get a return. So look,
I think there's a lot of headlines out there about oil,

(01:13:53):
about drugs and about running.

Speaker 5 (01:13:54):
Venezuela and all that.

Speaker 8 (01:13:55):
We'll see a haul that wolves out and that will,
you know, unfold here in several than several months. Let
me just say this, much that you know, Venezuelan and
oil is not showing up in the market in America tomorrow,
even by the summertime. What I can tell you is
that what we have witness in this country in twenty
twenty five is what we call the Great Energy Pivot

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of twenty twenty five. We have seen a country go
from energy defense to energy offense. We've seen this country
begin to embrace all forms of energy and bring back
some common sense to energy policy. And that's credible because
not only is it good for USA energy workers, it's
absolutely great for the American consumer. Right the current average

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of gasline right now about twenty and eighty one cents.

Speaker 5 (01:14:44):
A year ago was three h six.

Speaker 8 (01:14:46):
It's much lower than the record break and higher that
we saw at and twenty and twenty two. So look,
what I would say is that Venezuela is a big asterisk,
and we'll see how they're unfolds. Our focus continues to
be on the deployment of capital, as you say, in
the Permian Basin, in Alaska, in California, in Oklahoma, in Ohio,

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in Louisiana, where we know that we've experienced six recessions
from nineteen seventy three to twenty nineteen in this country,
and all of them have been preceded by spiking energey prices.

Speaker 5 (01:15:19):
So if you want to get.

Speaker 8 (01:15:20):
An economy rolling, job one is to make sure you
have access to affordable energy. Nobody does it better than
the Red, White, and Blue. And look, Ohio was a
perfect example. I mean, you top ten in gas, you
top ten in ukula, you top ten in electricity, or
how do you get it? And not only do you
consume a lot, but you actually export some of that.

Speaker 5 (01:15:40):
To other states.

Speaker 8 (01:15:41):
So we're proud of what Ohio does for the nation
when it comes to energy. Our football seasons, both for
you and me, this year didn't go like we wanted,
but we're still proud of our energy forces, Right.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
Scott, I deal with the USA energy workers and what's
happening in Venezuela and how that relates to the US
markets here at least US operations when it comes to drilling.
I think that is it, Chevron. I believe you tell
me that they they've been in there for like one
hundred years in Venezuela. But get in the money from
these other companies, from the Exons, from the Chinical phillips
Is of the world, the Haliburtons of the world. It

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seems to me you just keep that money in the
United States in those companies. Notorious. You know there's a
break even point right now you can talk more about
this is that you know, we want cheap gas, but
not too cheap because it's awfully expensive to get that
out of the ground. So there's got to be a
profit margin and a profit margin for you guys. And
so if we saturate the world with Venezuela. With cheaper oil,

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there's no incentive to drill and invest that money.

Speaker 8 (01:16:41):
Right, Well, look, I think you make some good points,
and clearly, you know we would say is that none
of us, none of us want cheap energy.

Speaker 5 (01:16:52):
We all want affordable energy.

Speaker 8 (01:16:54):
Access to affordable energy is the key, and there is
a balance there, right, and the market will always find
that balance.

Speaker 5 (01:17:02):
At the USA Energy Workers we always speak.

Speaker 8 (01:17:04):
To the balance of the three e's. We believe there
are three important e's, much like a three legged bar
stool that we have to focus on when it comes
to domestic energy policy. Obviously, energy resources is one of
those e's. Environment nobody does it better than the red, white,
and blue, so obviously we're going to do it better
for the environment here, then we're going to do it
in other places. And then of course the economy. You know,

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the environmental E is blue, the energy the energy is red.
The economic E is purple. It's not red or blue,
it's purple and cloves across all states. And we believe
when American policy balances those three e's, we end up
with some really strong results. Again, we experienced that in

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twenty twenty five with the pivot from all of government
war on domestic energy, to all of government's support or
domestic energy. And one of the things that happened, you know,
late last year that I think they list and would
be interested in, is that we had a lease sale
in the Gulf of America. It was the first le
sale we had this twenty twenty three. It was mandated

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by the One Big Beautiful Bill. It's referred to as
Big Beautiful Gulf one lease sale. It had a lot
of interest. It generated propertly two hundred and eighty million
dollars in hot bid across one hundred and eighty one blocks.
The Gulf of America has traditionally represented about one in
every six barrels of oil produced in America for over
half a century, you know, Scott, both presidents of both

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parties have embraced the Gulf of America as a significant
part of the American energy portfolio. We want to do more,
We can do more. We think this administration is headed
in the right direction, kind of taking off some of
the change that have held us back yere. And so
we're looking forward to this twenty twenty six in a

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big way.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
Yeah, And that was part of the two in December
last year you had the Golf of America off shore
lease sale and the first so I think we had
in a couple of years mandated by the One Big
Beautiful Bill. As you said too in the Golf, how
many more of those leases are going to become available?

Speaker 8 (01:19:08):
Well, you know what, what basically the One Big Beautiful
Bill did is mandated thirty different leaf tales into the future.
So again, leasdale is an event, uh, that that is scheduled,
that is public public is it has to go through
a variety of environmental reviews to be able to get there.

Speaker 5 (01:19:28):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (01:19:29):
But in the past we kind of left some of
that up to the administration. And I think we found
out that in the previous administration was playing games, if
you would, with with lease sales. And so the Big
Beautiful Bill just kind of came in and mandated native
the law that you got to have.

Speaker 5 (01:19:46):
These lead sales.

Speaker 8 (01:19:47):
So they will be a significant amount of lease sales
that happened not only in the go but it will
happen in the Pacific and as well as the Artic
and and that's good, that's good news for American consumer. Again,
one of the things that we you know, we we
like to repeat when we talk to our national audience,
is that there are no wealthy, low energy.

Speaker 5 (01:20:10):
Consuming nations on the planet.

Speaker 8 (01:20:12):
Let me repeat that there are no wealthy, low energy
consuming nations on the planet. Got it in a lot
of ways, In a lot of ways, Scott's energy consumption
has become a proxy for human prosperity, and so having
access to affordable energy just means that's obviously they had

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much more prosperity available and uh and again here on
the Golf Coast. But we believe that every state has
a role to make this union as great as it
can be, and the Golf Coast we certainly recognize that
one of our roles, in addition to having a good
time here, is to make sure that this country has
the energy in need. And you know, whether it's Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama,

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we highly focus and we kick and.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
Ask he's Scott a gild USA energy workers on the
show this morning, And obviously to take over Venezuela and
the oil operations there, and that's a long time coming.
By the way, I don't think you can find anyone
who's well. You can always find people are angry that
we topp up a durero. But the pretext it was
about drugs, and it's actually about oil. And in this case, though,
it's kind of like you made a case for not

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invading Venezuela and taking over oil because you said, what,
we're getting thirty leases that are going to be available
to oil producers. That's less incentive than for them to
invest in Venezuela.

Speaker 8 (01:21:29):
Well, look, I believe, probably contrary to some of the
pubalic comments, I really believe this was about drugs.

Speaker 5 (01:21:38):
I do really believe that that is.

Speaker 8 (01:21:42):
Being played out in the media in different ways. But
I do believe that this was about the importation of
drugs into society of America that is absolutely ruining a
generation and making it very difficult for families. And So
while there's again a lot of comments and it's about oil,
it's about just about this. I personally believes that there

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is no substitute for the USA energy worker. There's no
substitute for real strong energy production from this country. We've
seen it this look, this country is not going to
forget the lessons of early seventies where we got ourselves
in position to rely on foreign producers, and we saw

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what happened in my nineteen seventy three with the Arab
oil ago and and we learned that lesson, and we
quickly went from being a slack producer to the number
one producer in the in the world. Today America is
the number one oil producer in the world. Okay, and

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this I believe our country has learned that lesson, and
we are not going back to those days certainly. Look,
I think you know, getting rid of anyone who imports
drugs into this country for for kids, uh, and for
their own self wealth is a detriment to society.

Speaker 5 (01:23:09):
So for that, uh, I'm pleased to see that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
Yeah, yeah, it's I mean, I agree it destroys society,
but I mean the bulk of the drugs aren't coming
from Venezuela.

Speaker 4 (01:23:19):
But you know, it.

Speaker 5 (01:23:22):
Does, it does.

Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
I would say also on this one, Scott angel is
that maybe this, you know, if it works out, and
as we know, it often doesn't, but sometimes it does.
And that is regime change at the hands of the
United States is uh. In three years, if we have
a foothold there, it's gonna be awfully tough for the
next administration to unravel that. If it's a democratic one,
it's a Republican fine, but if the Democratic when unravel

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that probably not that kind of hedges our bats a
little bit in having a stronghold here in the West
in Venezuela when it comes to uh a source of energy,
a sense of oil which you're going to need for
the next hundred plus years.

Speaker 5 (01:23:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:23:58):
Look, at the end of the day, right when we
all recognize that access to affordable energy is good for
the American consumer, we all win. We experienced it in
twenty five. We absolutely believe that, you know, this White
House is headed in the right direction. And when it
comes to focusing on American energy policy that I think
if you write the story of twenty twenty five, one

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of the things that really comes out to meet Scott
is that getting energy policy fixed was job worn because
once we fix the energy policy, because the experts tell
us about forty percent of overall inflation is driven by
energy inflation. So we saw what happened when energy is
in twenty twenty five, we also saw that inflation was reduced,
not to where we want it to be, but it
certainly is reduced, and we saw interest rates come down.

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So job one focus on American energy, we believe, was
the right call, we've seen it, execute it, and we
believe we're not going to forget those lessons in twenty
twenty sixty.

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
Yeah, that's the oil ement.

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
I believes that those other legs of that still right,
which be natural gas, It would be other things like
that too, But it seems to me is transmission as
the other issue hit and getting it from point A
to point B producing it. But we know the strain
on our energy grid. For example, we know that the
Keystone XL pipeline was shut down and now restarted under Trump.
That will definitely help to reduce if it's not already

(01:25:12):
reducing oil prices, gas prices at that But infrastructure seems
to be the bottleneck, no doubt.

Speaker 8 (01:25:19):
I'm glad you brought that up, because we've had this incredible,
I think bottleneck permitting infrastructure that we need in this country.
And again, I think there was this mindset that, you know,
energy wasn't necessary, that we were going to maybe we
had begun to accept that we're going to get all
of our energy.

Speaker 5 (01:25:37):
From the birds and the bees and the flowers and
the trees.

Speaker 8 (01:25:39):
And I think there's starting to be some realization that
you know, hey, we don't make these investments. We started
up having serious issues and so the grid does have
a bottlenecks. I do believe that there's a couple of
things that happened that's very important to getting the big
beautiful Bill provided some relief on infrastructure.

Speaker 5 (01:25:57):
Also, the Supreme Court.

Speaker 8 (01:25:58):
Decision, I think it's called seven Counties Eagle County versus
Seven Counties Infrastructure. That was a significant decision coming at
a Supreme Court. The executive order that created or get
created the National declared the National Energy Emergency, the creation

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of the National Indidominance Council. I think you can expect
twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven to be absolute
record years, record years on the capital that's deployed in
infrastructure development, because I believe that the capital deployers have
the confidence that this country is fixing its bottlenecks. One

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of the other things is going through Congress right now,
something called the Speed Act, which is designed again to
remove some of the bureaucratic bureaucratic holes. And you know,
folks have a hard time when they put together a
business plan and it's a big and dollar business plan,
and it takes on certain mouthstone and those milestones get

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get delayed and delayed and delayed and delayed, and nineteen
years later you're still waiting for a permit. That's no
way to run a business. There's no one way to
provide affordable energy to American consumers. So you absolutely right.
I'm glad you brought it up. A lot of bottle
necks on the grid. Looked for twenty twenty sixth and
twenty twenty seven to be extremely strong with the deployment

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of capital to start removing some of those bottle necks.

Speaker 1 (01:27:25):
Well see how it shakes out on the home front.
Things are good. We'll find out. Venezuela now an outlier.
But Scott Einshiel is with USA Energy workers down on
the Bayou. And thanks again for the time. It's always Scott,
all the best.

Speaker 5 (01:27:37):
Thank you so much, and good luck for you in
twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
You too, You as well, my friend. I'm sure we'll
talk again soon. You know, as he was talking, there
was so thinking about the demand, and it was the
stupidest thing that the Hubris, the previous administration, had about
forcing electric vehicles on people. Hybrids are where it's at,
and we said no, no, we don't want that because
that's gas. We can't have gasoline. Got to go right
to electric, and we saw what happened. It kind of

(01:28:00):
collapsed upon itself. Not that there's you know, electric cars
are going to go, evs are going to go anywhere,
but certainly trying to force people and pushing that agenda
didn't work out most people. Most people who drive, you know,
drive a significant amount of miles in the United States
outside of the big cities, and you know, the ryal
leveluild of having to charge something every so often, it's
still a lot of pilling despite the incredible range that

(01:28:22):
these cars have. At the same time, you know, people
want SUVs and bigger vehicles now, I think largely because
the roads suck. I think if you want people to
become more you know from the environmentalists, to go to
all electric, which poses its own problems.

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
But we need more.

Speaker 1 (01:28:38):
We need wider, bigger and better roads. Uh so you know,
every every pothole doesn't feel like your teeth are going
to get knocked out. Just my two cents anyway, quick
time out more to follow slowly on seven hundred w
O got to flow show seven hundred WIWD slide in
the first one Shower of twenty six or a lot
of people, and I want to talk about generally, it's
so sports related about this time. And Cleveland knocks off

(01:29:01):
the Bengals yesterday twenty eighteen. Bengals fall to six and eleven,
and I, for one, am happy the Bengals lost yesterday.
James Rapeat is here from SI's Bengals Talk dot Com
in the Lockdown Bengals podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
James welcome.

Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
I said, yes, I'm glad the Bengals lost because I
hate the tired narrative where our teams go on a
streak once the season is out of reach, once the
postseason's out of reach, and they talk about, well we
got something to build on for next year. That is
the stupidest, most excuse ridden concept ever. I'm glad they lost,
so you go, listen, blow this thing up and fix.

Speaker 5 (01:29:36):
It, right, you did it?

Speaker 6 (01:29:38):
I do.

Speaker 5 (01:29:39):
I totally understand that. I think I hope they knew
regardless that they weren't close. But now you look at
it and you lose to Vat Brown's team with Jill Burrow,
which just shouldn't happen. I mean, it really is an
embarrassing loss, and you have to look in the mirror

(01:29:59):
and say we were five hundred with Joe Burrow. You know,
we were three and three with Joe Burrow, right and
after he came back to be clear. Yeah, so a
tough cover swallow for sure, no no.

Speaker 2 (01:30:12):
Doubt about it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:12):
I look at a you know you because if they'd
won that game yesterday and they're very close to doing it, obviously,
that's a that field goal. You go back and go, well, okay,
we won three and they lost to a Jets team
this season that by the way, yesterday I watched that
Bills game. The Bills started well, Josh Allen I think
once here one handoff, and then he was out of
the game to keep his one hundred and twenty games

(01:30:33):
streak alive. But Mitch Trubisky backup comes in, all the
backups are and the Bills throttled the Jets.

Speaker 2 (01:30:40):
The Jets the.

Speaker 1 (01:30:41):
Only team in NFL history not to get one single
interception all damn season long, and the Bengals loss of
that team. That's what I look at and scratch my
head and go, how is that even possible? What the
talent this team has. You've got Joe Burrow, you've got
Jamar Chase, you got t Higgins and a thousand yard
rusher in Chase Brown, and you still can't make the playoffs.

Speaker 5 (01:31:01):
Yeah, and not even close. I mean they've been eliminated
for so long. It's not like they were in it
down the stretch and something didn't break their way like
last year. Yeah, that's it. That's the frustrating thing.

Speaker 4 (01:31:13):
And so.

Speaker 5 (01:31:16):
Now it's about how do you get better? What do
you need to get better? What needs to improve? What
are the changes that need to be made? And what's
interesting is is you could say, yeah, because a bunch
of changes need to be made, and you could say
the coaches and guess what, I think you're right. You
could say they need to be more aggressive in free agency,

(01:31:36):
and guess what, I think you're right. Obviously they need
to draft better with talent that's ready to go right
now instead of needing to be developed for two to
three years. If that's how they're trying to bank on
the draft, which is a dangerous game to play. So
there's a lot of ways they can get better.

Speaker 2 (01:31:52):
Well, everything's on the table, but it's really not because
it's the Bengals. Of course.

Speaker 1 (01:31:57):
Just dropping a couple hours ago was Mike Brown's statement
that after thoughtful consideration, I'm confident that Duke Tobin and
Zach Taylor are the right leaders to guide us forward.
Why well because of one of the playoffs in the
Super Bowl, so it can't possibly do them. But we're
going to look at everything that doesn't make a lot
of sense and confidence there and maybe the one area
that he didn't mention that should is free agency.

Speaker 5 (01:32:19):
They better be aggressive in free agency. And I actually
just wrote something this morning what Joe Burrow said about
free agency because I asked him because it's one thing
for me to stay on all my platforms, which I
have for quite some time now that hey, they set
themselves up for failure this season because of their lack

(01:32:39):
of activity and free agency. They went and they got
t J. Slayton, and that was really the only defensive
starter that they brought in. And we saw the defense
last year, we knew it wouldn't just be a coach
that would fix it. And so for that to be
the case is unacceptable. And Joe Burrow saying, quote when

(01:33:00):
I asked about free agency, that's a paramount importance. You
have to identify where you're weak and figure out a
way to be strung in that area. It's pretty simple,
and so they need to do it. They need to
add multiple starters, probably one to all three levels of
their defense, if we're being quite honest, and that doesn't
mean that they're not going to or shouldn't add to

(01:33:20):
the offense. A lot of people are going to say,
all of the offensive set we saw yesterday, the offense
is not set. The offense is far from set. They're good,
they're talented, they have a chance to be really good.
But they should have hung thirty on a crappy, lifeless
Browns team, even with the turnovers, and they didn't get close.

Speaker 2 (01:33:39):
James repeating so on that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:42):
You have to ask yourself, Okay, during that that anomaly
where they went out and leaned in the free agency,
in the last three seasons they got away from that.
So the question would be why if it worked, then
we know the reasons what predicated that. So aren't we
in the same position now, why wouldn't you replicate if
that worked for you once, why wouldn't.

Speaker 5 (01:33:57):
You continue to do that? I don't have the complete answer.
Here's what I would tell you. I think that they overthought,
completely overthought this idea that oh my god, we got
to pay Joe and Jamar and how are we going
to make this work? And they looked up and they
had no one to pay. That's why if they didn't
pay te Higgins I would have lost my mind. They

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had no one to pay that. They have so much money,
so much cash shaded, so much room, and they drafted
so poorly that they easily could have paid Jest. They
easily could have paid DJ. It was a predative by
the way. They easily could have paid all of these
guys and kept their stars. But in their minds, I
think they thought, oh, well, we got the quarterback coming up,
but we got the receiver coming up, and they felt

(01:34:41):
like they couldn't operate. And that's why, Like I think back,
really the past three off season. Last year was TJ.
Slayton was their big get, which can't be your big
get if you're a Super Bowl contender in free agency.

Speaker 4 (01:34:53):
Just can't.

Speaker 5 (01:34:54):
It's not that's not even have bininary thy for a
lot of teams, And that's no knock on TJ. It's
so the reality of it. You need to add real
starters that and he's worth it, but you need to
add more than one piece to that defense. But I
think back to over the past three years, really the
only significant free agent signing was Orlando Brown Junior. And

(01:35:15):
I'll tell you right now, Scott, they didn't go into
free agency thinking they had a shot at Orlando Brown Junior.
That wasn't even a guy they were targeting. He fell
into their laps because he looked at the situation and said, ooh,
that would be a good situation. And that's what scares
me is like, you guys got to think like this
is the Joe Burrow era. And so however you get
to Little Lombardy, you got to get there. It doesn't

(01:35:37):
matter if you're hurt feelings, it doesn't matter what wall
you got to run through. You got to find a
way to get there. And it doesn't feel like they're
willing to climb, crawl, run through, do whatever it takes
to get there, because if they were, they would be
willing to manipulate how they structure contracts to get more
guys on under the cap and all of the things
that I've highlighted with you all, Oh yeah, well I

(01:36:00):
think that that thing.

Speaker 1 (01:36:01):
Yeah, And James, to your point, I mean, Chase Brown
right thousand and out Rusher, you know, his contracts, and
I think, what end twenty nine the next season, you
should have him locked in right now or at least
this offseason. That's a priority, right for getting him. You
can lock him in cheaper than it's going to cost
you down the line, and we've seen them not do
that with plenty of players.

Speaker 5 (01:36:19):
Yeah, and so Chase Brown's interesting. But what's tough about that?
They're spending a lot of money on offense, right and
so do they overthink that? I don't. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:36:29):
Here's what I do know.

Speaker 5 (01:36:30):
DJ Turner is in the same boat. I want DJ
Turner on the team next year, on the team the
year after. Yes, that's still entering his fifth year option.
So there are guys like that. But here's the other thing.
Don't worry about those extensions and those guys that are
under contract in the middle of free agency. The real

(01:36:50):
loss of the Jamar and t contracts was it wasn't
just how they structured them. And I'm not going to
get two into the leads there because they wasted about
ten million dollars in cap space. It didn't have to,
but it was the when, why the hell would you
do that? With free agency opens, they're under contract, they're yours.
You can negotiate with them anytime you want. Once free

(01:37:11):
agency opens, that is your time to go after outsidecast.
They didn't do that. They were so worried I think
internally about getting those done and how it would look
and impact their salary catch space that they could not
operate without getting those done. That just cannot happen.

Speaker 1 (01:37:28):
Well, also hamstring themselves because it's I only have this
heart official. We don't negotiate during these during the season,
these particular times, and like you're always negotiating.

Speaker 2 (01:37:36):
It doesn't make any sense. That's what the rest of
the league is.

Speaker 4 (01:37:39):
It's always negotia.

Speaker 1 (01:37:40):
Some stupid like, well this is the way we did
it when my dad ran the team. Well we also
have color TV, So what what the hell are you
talking about. You don't know if they do, I don't know,
probably not working off a rabbit or I'm not sure,
get in trouble.

Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
They uh, I'm watching this football game. They're at midfield.

Speaker 1 (01:38:02):
They have a chance to really to put this thing
away fourth and one, they wind up punting the ball
comes back to bite them. And then later on when
Miles Garrett gets his record setting sack of Joe Burrow,
which was I thought. I thought for a while he
wasn't gonna get it, but he got it. You know,
the stadium is reluctantly. Even Bengals fans were on their
feet for this because it's a milestone, right, I haven't

(01:38:23):
seen this in twenty years. He's eclipsed and become the
old time NFL set the record for the most sacks
and one season twenty three. I've seen a lot of
sports and you have too, and I can't remember a
milestone like that where the game didn't stop and they
didn't celebrate. And yet in his press conference, Zach was
all pissed off that they stopped the game to Kurt Miles,
I'm sorry to kurt him off the field and celebrate him.

(01:38:46):
And it took the momentumway from the Bengals. Like the
urgency of that moment in the running tempo. Somehow that mattered,
but the fourth and one punt did not.

Speaker 2 (01:38:54):
It makes no sense.

Speaker 5 (01:38:56):
I totally agree with Like, I get what he was saying.

Speaker 6 (01:39:02):
Yeah, I do.

Speaker 5 (01:39:02):
Come on, let's not make it a huge deal because
you just got your buff loos right like right, Like
it is annoying and it is frustrating, and you were
trying to play to win the game, which makes it
even more sad that the backup Browns team that very
well is going to fire their coach. And it feels

(01:39:22):
that way I talked to people up there. It's just
it cannot it cannot be a thing like that has
like millions of us that Taylor complaining now and so
now when And he might not care because he also
praised Miles Garrett. But that's not the point that everyone's
going to remember. It's gonna be I remember when that
Bengals coach complained that they so.

Speaker 6 (01:39:45):
Like, that's just it's just not a good look.

Speaker 4 (01:39:48):
So he could have made his.

Speaker 5 (01:39:49):
Point without being so we were trying to get on
the ball and we were finding to them we're fighting
for our lives here and then like, all right, well.

Speaker 4 (01:39:57):
Why fight for your lives?

Speaker 5 (01:39:58):
And with zero zero gets the yeah, yeah, there's no
it's odd.

Speaker 1 (01:40:03):
This morning the Brown said we're done with Mike Stefanski,
two time Coach the Year. Immediately Bengals fans start thinking, well,
is he an upgrade from the coach we have now
in Zach Taylor. Mike Brown kind of cut this thing
off of the Knees issued a statement not long ago saying,
after thoughtful consideration, he's confident that not only Duke Tobyn
but Zach Taylor are the right leaders to guid his forward.

(01:40:23):
Should the Bengals have gone after Kevin Stefanski, I don't know,
doesn't matter, So.

Speaker 5 (01:40:31):
It matters for sure. It matters because I've thought about
this a lot, like if the front office isn't changing,
you see what an elite quarterback can do for you.
If you have an elite quarterback that can do that,
and you get an elite head coach, which they do
not have an elite head coach, it goes without saying
then like pretty good spot to be in. And uh So,

(01:40:51):
I I don't know if I think Kevin the Fancy
is the laite head coach. I think it's muddy. I
will say this. I think in NFL circles held in
higher regard than jacket correct, But do I think that
he's this awesome coach like I don't know, I don't
I don't know if I think that maybe he is

(01:41:12):
and I'm missing it and I'm not seeing the full boat.
And in the NFL evaluators that are uh seated differently
in our right. But for me personally, I never looked
at Kevin Stefanski and I was up there when like
right when he got hired. I wasn't there for that season,
but right when he got hired. But I'm not sure
I'm convinced and completely sold on that I made my words.

(01:41:32):
In two years, if he goes to Tennessee and has
them competing for titles, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:41:37):
Yeah, letting Brabel go. You know, I think it's bad
in Cincinnati that Tennessee. That just leaves everyone shaking there. Nonetheless,
James Brabel is elite. Tennessee is like, yeah, we don't
like this guy, we don't need him. Uh, James Rapine
over that s I of course I'll locked on Bendals
podcast and Bendle's Talk dot com post a new stuff
about our conversation today were talking about. Go check that out. James,

(01:42:00):
all the best. Appreciate you all season long and anything breaks,
we'll have you back on. But have a great offseason.

Speaker 2 (01:42:04):
Man, Appreciate you, Thanks, Scott, appreciate you. Take care.

Speaker 1 (01:42:07):
Let's get a time out in. We're running late. We've
got news on the way. That means Willie is just
ahead here on seven hundred ww Cincinnati

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