10-29-25 Scott Sloan Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Don't want to be an American.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
It's flowing you back on seven hundred WW. Blocks do
in the city all, If anything, it's not boring. We
have the police chief controversy. We have a contentious hearing
yesterday on food trucks as somehow having a role in
the violence downtown. You know, if you just have feeding people,
then the violence goes away. Maybe there's something there with Snap.

(00:24):
I don't know. She's councilmember Anna Olby on the show
on seven hundred WW, and she's in a very tight
council racers. Three thousand people running for the handful of
seats left and it's going to be musical chairs in
just a few days. For sure, Anna, welcome back. How
are you?

Speaker 3 (00:39):
I thinks I appreciate it? And three thousand might be
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Feels like I'm bad at math I'm bad at the maths,
but it feels like three We'll just go three thousand.
Let's start with this, the Snap hearing. The commissioners did
this yesterday. You were there, I saw you on camera.
Wave to you. But any way back, that's fine. What
is the city role to help with the really? What
can the city do if indeed on Saturday, snap benefits

(01:04):
go away for one in eight people in Hamlin County,
which is also Cincinnati.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah, thanks for this. Let me just start by laying
out the state of where we are. I don't know
how many your listeners actually watched that, but the county
shared yesterday some of the numbers. So across the county,
we have over fifty three thousand adults and over forty
three thousand children who are benefiting from SNAPS every month.
So when we think about this Saturday, those benefits are

(01:33):
not going to be available. And across the county that
represents over nineteen million dollars of food assistant benefits, and
I know for the city of Cincinnati that's over twenty
nine thousand households. So this is a real crisis moment
where families, according to the head of Freestore Food Bank,
they get nine out of ten meals with their SNAP

(01:54):
benefits and Freestore other local pantries only be one out
of ten meal, right, so we're about to lose funding
for nine one to ten meals for these these thousands
incredible people. Yeah, it's a true crisis.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
I had Kurt Rye around from free Store on Monday
show and he's he's concerned. I mean, he couldn't really say,
oh my god, you know, we don't what we're gonna do,
so like, hey, listen, you know we have some reserves.
We're going to lean on the local communities and trying
to get more out of our vendors. And also we
may have to start instead of once a month, we
have to do twice a month. So the demand's going
to increase even more, putting in a ready strain. But

(02:29):
and think about it heading into the holiday season here,
with Thanksgiving and then Christmas coming up, the really busy
time in the winter, when people are colder. Uh, people
are cold and hungry. It's going to put a strain
already on an overstrained system.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Yeah, one hundred percent.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
I'm really really worried about what this means when families,
you know, are looking at their budget and now they
have to decide do we buy a meal or do
we pay rent? Do we pay our utility bill? Right,
this is going to make impossible, you know, impossible decisions,
don't I don't know either.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
I wish I wish Washington would just go, look, okay,
we made our point, let's let's end this thing and
work towards compromise. But it's not about people. It's about politics.
And that's what Washington, that's what politics has become. It's
about protecting our party and our brand, whatever that is.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
I one hundred percent agreed. Right, Ultimately, this is a
federal government problem and we need the federal government to
solve it. And so yesterday you heard it from the
county commissioners, and I agree, we should have our lallmakers
in Washington at the table talking about how do we
come up with some type of emergencies to beat for snaps.
You know, they were able to dig up three hundred
million dollars from care funds to help keep with going

(03:38):
for a few more week weeks. Why can't they do
something for snaps? And instead we've got a president who's
on an international tour right now, isn't even in the country,
and we're going to have millions of people going hungry
starting Saturday.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Oh you need Congress to do that, right. I mean
the point of you know, this is a debate outside
our scope here in the city because you can't control
subsidies and how things are handed out, and that's really
part of the problem here. And I understand the stand
that they're making with Republican Democrats. But you know, now
it's time to put the swords down and try to
come to some common ground and solve this issue, because
the problem is healthcare is way out of control. Whether

(04:12):
you talk to a Republican or Democrat, we all agree
on that you just can't continue subsidizing. And Republicans don't
really have a plan to fix healthcare. So there's our problems.
And I'll be let's pivot a little bit here to
the food truck hearing now when this happened. To bring
those listening up to speed. If you're listening, okay, we'll
refresh my memory on this one. I got lots go
to my mind, Sloan, I got you so August fifteenth,

(04:35):
it was even earlier than that was. I think maybe
September or later in that September. Anyway, there's a hearing
about food trucks and basically, hey, you know where we
had the hookah bars and hookah lounges or some food
trucks around and the street violence and the food trucks
are open late and these tend to get people congregating
around it to eat, and then violence breaks out and
so sure, along in her wisdom said, you know what,

(04:57):
We're just going to omn issue an edict that says,
now we've got to shut the food trucks down at
eleven PM, which I took a great issue with. It's like, well,
they're there to feed people, you're there to police and
keep the streets safe. So if I want to I
don't know a hot I want to cheese cony or
slice of pizza or a taco, where the hell it
is at two o'clock in the morning, when the bars closed,
I should be able to get that from a street

(05:18):
vendor who's there legally. I'm there legally. Why are we
shutting down and punishing good people?

Speaker 4 (05:23):
I agree?

Speaker 3 (05:24):
To be clear, I agree, and I think you know,
I know you watched Yester's committee meetings. So just to
clarify again, the decision to change the closed time closing
time to eleven PM was purely from this city administration.
Council was not asked or prepped about this ahead of time.
So when it was announced, you know, I immediately caught
up and was asking lots of questions, and I asked

(05:45):
them again yesterday, what is the data showing that food
trucks are specifically causing these issues. And honestly, yesterday I
heard a lot of talk about people being maybe overserved, right,
they're too drunk and that's causing issues, and that's the
separate issues. But food trucks are small businesses. And to
your point, I think if someone is coming out of
the bar at two in the morning, they should be

(06:07):
able to get their taco before they had or their
hamburger whatever like that. And we want the city to
be a fun place to hang out, right, we want
the city to have a lively nightlife and food trucks
and people being out and being able to get a
bite to eat as part of that vibrancy.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
For me, yeah, do you think Mordecai Black would have
not murdered Patrick Herringer if he was able to get
a cheese coney instead. That's just the dumbest logic I've
ever heard.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Well, I'm not going to get into that part, but
I mean, in terms of how we're going to handle
this food truck regulations, I think there's two parts of this, right.
There's one part of what is the data showing that
food trucks are the issue here? La other part is
what is the impact economically on these small businesses, right,
And I was really disappointed to hear that the city
administration had yet to even talk with the food truck

(06:57):
administrations or any of the food trucks or even the
business owners the bars, right. And Vice Mayor Kearney brought
up yesterday that she talked to some of the bars
and they were like, yeah, we love having these food
trucks here. We don't have a kitchen or the kitchen
isn't open, you know, and closing right so letting patrons
come out and grab a bite to eat is something
that you know, the bars themselves appreciate, and you have

(07:18):
to think about I have to assume these food trucks
have most of their get most of their revenue at
those late night hours to right, So closing at eleven
PM just seems crazy to me. And then not to
be able to come yesterday prepared with the data to
show us that there's a direct cause and effects between
food truck hours and some of these incidents that they're reporting,
I just I was very frustrated about and hopefully in

(07:42):
two weeks when we come back to this, that the
administration will be better prepared to make the case she made.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
This isn't sure along correct, This is all on her.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
This is a city administration working. I mean, I know
synthetic police was also part of part of the decision making,
or at least based on kind of the whe the
officers were making.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah, how does a curfew impact then?

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Great question because I do see this as kind of
thing you mentioned hookah bars, right, So if we're implementing
a curfew, we're saying, you know, closing down hookah bars,
which I agree with. By the way, we were seeing
real issues with hookah bar specifically, and hookah bars sell
into a weird loophole at the state level when it
came to regulation, so it's good that we took care
of that. So if we have curfew hookah bars, now

(08:26):
we're closing food trucks right back to that vibrant feed downtown, right,
we don't want downtown to be a ghost town every
Sriday and Saturday night. So I do think there is
a real question to be had of like what do
we imagine a fun downtown space to look like? How
do we help support those businesses? Right, We've got too
many restaurants going out of business, so how can we

(08:47):
help them. How can we help the bar stand business?
And if we just start shutting everything down, it's going
to make it really hard on our business owner.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah, I mean, and I appreciate the work the hustle here.
It's like, hey, listen, you know, it's really expensive to
keep a brick and mortar going. We see restaurants closing
opening all the time. If I just took my wares
and put it in a food truck, now I could
sell maybe a few things from my menu or you
know some long those are maybe I just specialized in
doing some really good food. I can get the wheels,

(09:14):
I get the kitchen, I get the health permit, fire inspection.
You get all that done, and then I turn around,
and now the city goes, well, now you got to
close at eleven, Well, you know, I would imagine from
eleven to two or three am, that's you're probably making
a lot of money as the bars closed, as the
club's let out, or there's an event downtown, a ball game,
a concert, whatever it might be. That's where you're making
your bank. And we're shutting that down. Why because we

(09:36):
can't control violence. It's a separate issue.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
I think these are separate issues. Exactly, And that's why
I was really pushing on the city administration, our captain
and our Assistan city manager yesterday. I'm like, show me
the data, show me the relationships here. You know, I
can appreciate that big crowds at drunk people can be unruly.
But again, if the problem is that people are being
over served in the bar so they're blackout, drunks, you know,

(10:01):
causing issues, well let's go deal with that problem, right,
That is a separate issue than to a small business
trying to feed some people late night through food truck.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah. But here's the thing. Well, you know we're over served,
people are drinks, theyre having drinks. Okay, fine, Then why
do we have street festivals? Why why do we have
Taste of Cincinnati, Why do we have Octoberfest? Why do
we all these things downtown that serve alcohol where people
are getting served and then turn around it's again the
argument doesn't stand is because the city endorses all this stuff.

(10:32):
The city endorses those events. I don't see how this
is any different other than that's a you know, probably
a Thursday, Friday, Saturday night thing.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yeah, and you know, there was some discussion to as
the administration talks to this around like the idea of
the food trucks on a normal day, right, separate from festivals,
TV in any place they're popping up their logic park wherever. Okay, great,
you know I asked questions around. Okay, have we thought
about designating specific spots? Have we thought about how that
could work with termiting?

Speaker 5 (10:59):
Right?

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Almost every city in the nation probably has had food trucks, right,
This is not a unique cocatty thing.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah. All over the world. You know, you travel abroader
like they've got food trucks at three or four in
the morning and there are people out there taking a
machine gun out and spraying people.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
It's not happening exactly, And especially as I know Cincinnati is.
We can look to other cities and say, oh, what
are the regulations that they're using with food trucks to
be able to make sure that things aren't getting out
of control. So that again with some of the pushback
I was adding to administration yesterday, which was, hey, there
are other solutions and options here. If there are you know,
XYZ issues, Why didn't we do any research into how

(11:38):
other CITs that's restless? And the other thing I was
really shocked by yesterday is in the presentation. So this
I think the food truck rule was changed in twenty
twenty three. They said they had no issues in twenty
twenty three, no issues, in twenty twenty four, got through
half of twenty twenty five, or at least the first
part twenty twenty five no issues, and then it was
just this summer where they saw some issues. I tried

(11:59):
to asking, Okay, what caused that? You know, what type
of problem solving did we do? And I just think
ultimately we took an administration took a big swing here
without really doing some of the leg work to look
at what actually happened here. What are the problems we
need to solve versus punishing businesses that aren't doing anything wrong.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Well, you're being very polite, council Member Albe, and that's saying, well,
they took a big swing here. No, it's incompetence, is
what it is. I mean, you're looking for all these
straw men to blame the violence problems on, saying well,
it's this, it's that's all these little it's not it's
it's a lack of leadership within the administration on that point,
whether it's this with the food trucks, or the way
the Harringer homicide was handled, or the street violence, the

(12:41):
beatdown where the you know, the person is charged later
and it was completely racially motivated. This whole thing is
to me an indictment on the same administration. Do you
think it's time for new leadership specifically? Now we'll see
what the mayoral race. I think Aftab is going to
win re election, but is sure along the right person
for this job.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Here's what I can say. I know the administration over
the summer is being really responsive to issues that we saw,
and there were issues, let's be clear, you know.

Speaker 6 (13:10):
And I can respect them.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
I know they're even with this. I'm going to go
back to this food trucks and such. What we've been
digging in on, you know, this food truck policy is
my understanding, was really in response to some of what
they were hearing from our officers. The officers saying there
are the hot these hot spots. You know, we think
that food trucks are creating the hot spots because people
are gathering here. And I want to respect the fact

(13:31):
that that's our officers coming back and giving that feedback.
But to me, there just needs to be a little
bit more like work on Okay, what are the specific incidents?
How many are there? Is it one specific truck that's
causing the issue? Is it one specific block, right, and
trying to do a little bit more problem solving that
specific to either that truck or that's that specific spot

(13:52):
versus again this wide uh you know eleven pm cut
off that that impacts all these trucks that aren't doing
a thing wrong. So again I want to be responsive
to to problem solving and understanding what our officers are
seeing on our streets and doing all that. But we
got to look at the data and we've kind of
look at you know, what are the specific exues that

(14:13):
it solve for this problem versus punishing small businesses that
are doing the right thing.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
And this all these of course of the termination of
Chief Teresa Thijia. I mean, when you have a when
you have an administration that and let's go back to
when thiji was hired three years ago. I was looking
at her comments following her being sworn in and said, no,
this is we're gonna we got to look at diversity,
equity and inclusion. We've got to continue the path we're
on right now with the community and make sure we're

(14:42):
engaging with people on the street. And okay, I get
that at the time. Now you've got the food truck thing,
You've got the curfews that looked like they didn't work
because the people are you know, they're still young people
out there doing what they do. You're empowering activists like
iris Ralli where she's interfering with police work. So we've
had a track record now and a bad policy decision saying,
you know, we're gonna treat criminals like victims and we're

(15:04):
gonna give them a slap on the wrist when they
get to court, and we're gonna let them out with
a two dollars bond, or we're gonna give them an
o R and they're gonna go out and get a
gun and shoot someone or cut their ankle, monor off.
We're not gonna take this seriously. The mayor refuses to
lean on judges. You have these policies coming down from
people like shil Long and then you turn around and
fire Thiji. To me, that's like the food truck thing
all over again. You're blaming the wrong person. It's the

(15:26):
policies and how you handle things in the series and
of how you take crime and how you hold people
accountable as opposed to all this other stuff out there
in the ether. And I think and all, but it's
gonna it hurts people like you because I mean, let's
face it, I mentioned three thousand people running for council seats.
You're one of the people could be displaced by this.
The voters are not gonna blame AFTAP, They're gonna blame

(15:46):
someone like you.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Well, I'm definitely out there talking to our voters, and
I'll be honest. You know, I was in a community
council meeting and Price Hill and to kind of that
was a lot you just threw out it. One of
the things that the person, uh you know, stood up
and they have some questions, but they still up and
they said, you know, Cincinnati has the best police force
in the nation. And I agree, right, But I think

(16:10):
a key part of that is the fact that we
have the collaborative agreement that we as a city did
the work in the early two thousands to make sure
our police force is the best in the nations. We
do work with community and across Right, this is the
collaboration stick key word there, right, No one person alone
can fix anything, right, These are these are big things,

(16:32):
and so having that collaboration across lallmakers, police force, and
the community is a really important part to how we
function as a city and how we keep everyone safe. So,
you know, those are values that I uphold, and I.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Also I think Anna my point is those things can exist,
they can coexist, and that's fine. You know, we shouldn't
be beating down on people who are What I'm saying
is is like we we look at criminals now and
treat them as victims as well, and that's part of
the problems. There's people that look at the way policing
has changed and the collaborative agreement and the IRIS Raleigh Paul,
these policies, hands off policies, and there's people to go, ow,

(17:07):
I respect that. You know, the police are great, They're
keeping my neighborhood safe. And what winds up happening is
there's the small percentage of criminals of sociopaths out there
that are exploiting that and we refuse to treat them
like the criminal, repetitive criminal element that they are. We're
looking at reasons to why we need to release them
rather than reasons we lock them up, and you know
where that hurts the same people. These policies are that

(17:28):
are protect.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
You know what I think about what a safe community
looks like. I always say a safe community is one
where people are being paid enough to bard a roof
of their head, fresh food and table, access to healthcare,
and where kids have safe spaces right, and we can
get all of that right, I think we've done a
pretty good job. So when I as a lawmaker look
at what can we do to strengthen our community, it's

(17:51):
it's a guest and pollution where we're doing all of
those right. How do we help people get good paying jobs.
How do we build more housing so there's more housing
options out there, How do we help people get access
to healthcare? And you know, we just talked about SNAP
and food. I am very very worried about what SNAP
not being issued on this Saturday. What that is going

(18:11):
to do to our residents. Like we talked about, people
are going to be desperate.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
What does that mean?

Speaker 3 (18:16):
So whatever we can do to help stabilize families right
and meet people's basic needs, to me, that's ultimately what's
going to make for a safer community.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
A council member I'll be I wish you all the
best between now an election day, I really do, and
we'll pick up the pieces, as we say, probably sometime
after the election. But I always appreciate the time and
your thoughtfulness. Thanks for jumping on this, Morne.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
Thanks much, take care, good luck.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
All the best. Scott's Loan Show with news in just
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in this wet Wednesday morning, but weeks half over. It's
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Speaker 6 (19:00):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
I know she's a she's seeking office and she's a Democrat,
but seeing some common ground here, I mean, first and foremost,
I don't care a Democrat Republican. The government shutdown right
now is nonsense. And you know the idea as well,
if we could just get the Democrats to admit they're wrong.
When the Democrats are going, if we could just get
the Republicans to admit they're wrong, what we need to

(19:21):
do is force them to that they're both wrong. Is
that you sit down. He made your point, Now figure
it out. Fix it, and I get it. We know
we're just subsidizing stuff, and the Democrat existence is to
subsidize it. We got subsidize, We've got a subsett we
need more subsidy, which means what it means you're still
spending well even more money on things in order to

(19:41):
make it affordable for people. So basically, like the Democrats
are about giving out coupons, it's a coupon, it's a voucher.
Got a coupon, Well, it's a coupon. Well, I know,
food or healthcare, it's this much, but here's a coupon
for eighty percent off fifty percent. Great, but who's paying
for that? Well, we all are, So we're just borrowing

(20:01):
more money we don't have. We have a thirty eight
trillion dollar deficit, and there's complicity there. The other side
of it is and I've yet to hear an argument
from Republicans as to how you fix healthcare. Because we're
in benefit season right now. It's time to make those
tough decisions. See how much more you're going to cause
it's going to come out of your check for how
less coverage you're going to wind up don And it's
not because you know your evil corporate overlords want it

(20:24):
that way. It's the way the system it's jacked up.
You know, if we don't like Adaca, if we don't
like affordable care, if a logal of subsidy, you have
the power controlling both sides, both the House and the
Senate and the Presidency, to be able to maybe implement
something to fix it. So give me a plan. Say
what you all about subsidies, which I hate, but it
does something for people. If it's broken, it doesn't work,

(20:46):
and subsidies are terrible, then then come up with a
way to fix the healthcare system. And yet what do
we do we have My side is right, your side
is wrong. We have a government that is not functioning.
We have a Congress that can't pass a budget. They
have one job. And in my lifetime now there have
been two times where we've balanced the budget. We haven't

(21:06):
be able to do that the other three thousand years
I've been alive. Not good, not good. To blame. Well,
Trump's out in the dead in another country, and it's
not on Trump, it's on Congress. Now can he say
something that maybe encourage Yeah, I guess, but again that
you're not understanding the most basic sense of government is
it is the United States Congress, and when they don't

(21:29):
do stuff, then what happens is we give all the
power to the president, either Biden or in this case Trump,
and he uses his pen and executive power to write
an executive order when Congress should be doing this stuff. Okay,
I get it. You made your point. Time to probably
pass another continuing resolution, kick the can down the road
for another and shut it down in seven weeks we'll

(21:50):
have this conversation again. It's exhausting, is what it is.
Relative to Anna Alby, And I think it's interesting now
we have more evidence here of the incompetence of share
Along in particular. And I would say aftered, pure vol
put them in the same boat. And if I'm a
if are in council right now, like I don't, I'll
be I would not be as genteel as she was,

(22:10):
uh and worried about party politics and kissing the ring
and everything else, because after have puervoal is going to
cost somebody their seat. Now he's going to wind up
getting re elected. Could I be wrong? Absolutely been wrong before.
But if you look at the fundraising, if you look
at the power of the incumbency and everything else, and
it's not an insult of all the Corey Bowman. Then
Corey's a great guy. He's got some decent ideas. But

(22:33):
being a pastor who is related to JD. Vance in deep,
deep blue Cincinnati is not good. There's baggage already. People
are going to pay attention, people are just going to
tune them out instantly, and so by default have to
have wins. Could I be wrong? Could we have the
huge upset? Sure one hundred percent. Is it possible, But
it's unlikely. I think what's more likely are how voters

(22:58):
respond relative to the city council. It feels like, you know,
I can't change that with Aftab, but I sure as
hell can change the makeup of counsel, and probably for
the better. So I don't understand if you are one
of these folks, and maybe it's for office later on
down the line or another appointment or something like that.
If you kiss the ring, you get that. Maybe that's

(23:21):
part of politics, I guess is if you are the
good soldier, you'll get rewarded somewhere along the line, but
in the short term you're out of a job. I
just think voters are pissed off enough to start holding
people accountable. If it can't be aftabed, maybe it's someone
else on counsel. That's unfortunate, because I think we've got
some good and a few people that maybe not so
good on council will probably have to go anyway. But nonetheless,
we have this new story out yesterday and the Inquirer

(23:44):
regarding what transpired right before share Long fired chief Thiji. No,
she's not fired, she's just done paid administrative leave. Okay. Well,
you named an interim superintendent in Adam Hayey. Okay, So
if you name someone in interim head coach, that means

(24:06):
you're waiting for the next head coach to come along.
If you're acting head coach, you're waiting for the person
who's the coach to come back or get better or
whatever it is the reason they took leave in the
first place. So right away, you're telling me that she's fired,
even when I'm saying she's fired. So this email comes
out on August fifteenth, I'm sure along to Thiji, and
it mandated that all communications, external meetings announcements have to

(24:28):
be clear through the city Manager's office because she needs
to save face. Because it's a bad look. You caught
me off guard when you said you want to be
on a task force to the Hamlin County Police Chiefs
Association and Tim Holloway to address the revolving justice system,
because the problem here, one of the problems is the
justice system. We know how drunk and broke it is,

(24:49):
where we have judges that are taking people with very
serious charges against them and giving them bed for the
doubt that they they're going to show back up to court,
that they're going to go talk to their probation officer
and get a job and all these things, and then
they turn around and pick up a gun that's probably
the almost the same gun that they got in trouble
with in the first place, and go on commit even
worse crimes. And we have a steady drum beat of

(25:09):
that for a long time, but especially this summurb. That
is a reasonable thing for a chief to do to go, hey, listen,
my men and women that didn't movee line. The officers
of the City of Cincinnati, Hamlin County Sheriff's Department, we
got a problem here because we're catching people, we're apprehending them,
we're giving you the charges prosecuted does what they do,
and the judge simply says, well, these are just these

(25:32):
are criminals, but they're victims too, when we have to
treat them like they're victims, which is the mentality I
think from progressives largely, whether it's in the bench or
whether it's the city manager and the mayor of the
city of Cincinnati, and so again, more worried about optics,
more worried about being caught off guard, and more worried
about how things look on the perception is rather than
your safety. You know, we're more worried about how we

(25:55):
look to the wrestler. Well, when that video splashed with
they beat down in July, Hell, did we look to
the rest of the world. I was halfway around the
rest of the world in Australia and that was on
the news. I turned on the TV. Michelle's getting ready,
We're going to go to dinner, last few days of
our trip, our bucket list trip, and I'm watching this violence.
I'm looking at it going on. It looks horrible. I

(26:16):
wonder if that's Chicago or is it La Is it Nope?
Is a point It's got to be Portland that looks
like Nope, Cincinnati Ohio. Holy crap, Holy crap. Here we go.
So the optics are, you're not doing your job, and
that's the problem. When you're all worried about how things look,
you're not focused on the important stuff. So she goes
at THEIJI and says, there's some challenges messaging. It can

(26:38):
cause in confusion, and we got to be united on
safety and messaging. And now we just hired Frost Brown
Todd at what forty fifty thousand dollars to come up
with the reasons why we fired Chief Thiji after we
fired her is to justify that behavior. And it may
take months. It's going to take well after the election,
that's for sure. Maybe by the first of the year
we'll have an answer on this thing. About the same

(26:59):
time we'll have and answer as to what the hell
happened in July twenty sixth with the street beatdown. No
word about that either, by the way normally stuff comes out,
there's no we're not hearing a word about that because
there's an election to be one, damn it. Nonetheless, it
doesn't this undermine the money that you're spending already with
this law firm. One may ask, because what you're trying

(27:21):
to do is come up to the reason why you
fire Chief Thigi. And Chief Thigi says, well, listen, there's
nothing in my jacket. I've been here thirty five, thirty
six years. There's significant You have no cause to fire me,
no need cause with a contract, but there's no cause there.
Give me a reason why my incompetence. I did something wrong.
I was stealing money, I was paying officers, I was
doing something illegal. If not, I'm doing something that is

(27:42):
against my code of conduct. Here, I'm not doing There's
more I could be doing relative to policing. What is
that woman not doing? Is a question? And the new
of the interim chief how much different is he than Thigi?
And the idea here is well, we've got to separate
Chief Thiji's behavior from our policies. We've got to look
for the behavior of Chief Dji to justify firing her,

(28:05):
and that's what we're looking for here. Well, this doesn't
help that case, does it, Because now if this memo
comes out, if this leaks out, and City ser Long
is saying, well, listen, we got to rein you in.
You're going off the reservation. Now, we've got to control
all your communications and meetings and announcement. It's got to
be cleared through my office. Not not like, hey, let

(28:25):
me know it's gone to but cleared. I have to
approve who you're meeting with, who you're talking to, what
you're thinking, and what you're about to say. Doesn't that
look to you like the chief or any chief or
any administrative leader in our city doesn't have autonomy that
the mayor and the city manager under the mayor are
dictating policy. Doesn't that undermine that money that you, the taxpayers,

(28:47):
are spending on this law firm to find out reasons
why we're looking for something anything to blame Terry Thigi
for to justify her dismissal. And then you come out
in this and I think this selves, Terry, and I
think there's a reason why this this was leaked out.
But nonetheless, Long said, any outreach or contact with elected
officials must go through the city director's Government Affairs office.

(29:10):
So she can't talk, she can't think, she can't do it.
She has no autonomy to kind of, you know, press
some levers and make some noise in order to police
the way she sees fit. That totally underminds that argument,
I think so she's on administrative leave. And then the
other thing that comes out of this email, which I

(29:30):
think is really funny and Willie, you'll probably be talking
more of this is the timeline with this is we
get the Fountain Square shooting downtown on October thirteenth, and
there's growing public concerns, as you know, to everything from
Patrick Harringer to the viral fight and everything else. So
two days later, after the Fountain Square thing, she leaves
for Denver, or maybe the night before she left for Denver,

(29:52):
Terry Thiji for this conference. So two days past at
nine twenty six am, Fiji emails sheer along and the
HR director some payroll issue. She mentions in the communication
it's her thirty sixth anniversary with the city and said,
I can't stay forever here forever, so I just want
to plan. No one knows what that means, and so

(30:12):
Long and the HR director say, well, we'll meet about
this particular staffing issue. Payroll describe maybe it's her payroll,
I don't know whatever that's in the morning. By the afternoon, sure,
Long texts Terry Thiji, who's at this police conference in Denver,
saying call me, call me at one seventeen, call me.
Terry's in a car on a way the conference's got

(30:32):
another chiefs in the vehicle and says, well, can I
wait till I get back to the hotel And didn't
get a response other than maybe no. But at that
point she also, I'm guessing she realized what's going on.
She got a statement from the Reds praising her for
her work and trying to fight crime downtown and sends
that to share Alan And about this time here on

(30:53):
seven hundred WW it's the afternoon. Willie is on at
about one o'clock in the afternoon, and how fast World
travels was evidence in this too. Is about the time
that shieron Long is about to call Terry Thigi back
and write request she'd come back from Denver. The word
has already gotten out that Terry Thigi is coming back
to be fired. Remember that happened? Is like they've called

(31:15):
the chief back. She needs to get back as an
urgent concern. Fiji then mentions back to shar Long because
she's in Denver. She said, well, I much have mentioned like,
I don't know, are you hearing anything out there? And
she said I hadn't gotten any calls. Maybe WLW being
typical dramatic is what Terry Thigi said. And I'm guessing
that as a reaction to us here on this radio station,

(31:36):
particularly Bill Cunningham talking about what's happening with Terry Thigi.
Like the words already spreading because Terry knew, and if
Terry knew, other people who know, because she's probably gonna
maybe talk to some people about and say, they're calling
me back from Denver, what the hell's going on in
the city. I think that's a reasonable thing, like what
happened now, it's been two days since the Fountain Square shooting.
We have something else going on. I got to come back,

(31:57):
what's happening? And someone said, no, there's nothing going on there,
summoning you back, which then would indicate you're about to
get fired. You don't call someone back in for no
reason whatsoever. Going well, we've got some man, we've got
some leadership things we got to talk about. But I'm
at a conference. I can't wait. No, you need to
come back right now. So of course word travels fast,
and the word gets out that and you know, Willie

(32:17):
was right, we're not being dramatic. You got fired, And
then there's some other tacks, saying, in light of the
recent high profile incident and heightened public attention surrounding it,
we need you back in town in the earliest flight
you can catch, please call me, which sounds very pre
in light of the recent higher profile incident, heightened public
attention surrounding and we need you back in town because

(32:40):
she had readymade that decision to let her go. I
mean heightened public attention. We're kind of at peak on Monday. Okay,
that happened on the weekend, and two days by two
days okay, we settled. Nan. It's like, okay, there's heightened
public attention to the fountains cair shooting, for sure, But
why would you call her back from Denver. There's nothing
you can do about what happened forty eight I was earlier.

(33:00):
There's nothing unless you had some information about some sort
of I don't know, planned attack or planned criminal activity.
There's no reason for her to do that. And that
was like the end of the conversation. And then she
came back. And then by the twentieth on the twenties,
so that was five days after that is when the
city and tear and UH and share along place Stigi
on administratively paid administry pending internal investigation of the effectiveness

(33:24):
of her leadership. And of course she's lawyered up. She's
a political scapegoat. I believe that to be true. I
agree with Steve im on this. But the whole thing
is the fact that this indicates to me that most
certainly share along and most certainly have to have puival
dictate the policy. You're now hired a law firm to
prove the exact opposite. Terry. Theg is like, look, you're

(33:46):
the piper. You call the tune. If you're worried about DEEI,
if you're at about treating our criminals like victims, that's
the game you want to play with your administration. That's
how you were on the city. I take my orders
from you, Okay, I'll fall in line and make sure
the troops fall in line. And to that degree, I
think that's why she had a rift with maybe some
of the beat cops, and she was not really loved

(34:07):
all that much by the beat cops. It was kind
of a love hate situation, I guess from what I understand.
And you know, if you're a boss, you're not going
to keep everybody happy, especially if you're the chief of
police and you have a police union, and I get that,
but I also think that if you're going to take
that job, they're going to tell you what to do
and how to do it, and you're just going to
kind of follow it. And you know what, you're blaming

(34:28):
Terry Thiji for your bad policies. You made bad policy decisions.
It sounds like you took some I don't know, some
study from Harvard or some sort of nutty professor that
told you the way to keep the peace is to
simply appease the criminals rather than lock them up and
be strong about it. You know, we're going to empty
the jails, we're gonna have no bond, we're gonna have

(34:49):
aar And now a percentage of the population takes advantage
of that because that's what they do, not all of it,
but a small percentage of the criminal and this is
what you wind up getting. And so that's not the
fault Terry Fiji. That is the fault of failed leadership
above Terry Thigi, and she's paying the price. Very interesting though,
it sounds to me like the Mayor's office and sherlong

(35:10):
dictate how Terry Thigi should perform her job. I mean
controlling the what she's saying or thinking sounds to me
like they're underminding the whole investigation. They desired a big
law for them to do, and it just gets crazier
every day, really does. We'll get a time out and
we've got news in just about four minutes here on
seven hundred ww when we return County Commissioner at Lisha

(35:33):
Reese on the show, can the county help plug the
looming snap gap that's about to hit on Saturday? We'll
get into that and much more just ahead when the
Scott's Loan Show continues after this on seven hundred ww.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
Do you want to be an American idiot?

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Scott blown back on seven hundred WWS. So, we have
a coalition about half of the United States, the United
States and District of Columbia are suing the Trump administration
over the suspension of food staff benefits. With the government
shutdown happening right now, so here in Ohio we can't
control DC. But now we're going, all right, what about snap?
What about tamp what about Wick? What about that money

(36:06):
if we don't get federal funds? Is looking that way
as we get closer to Saturday Locally, Governor Dewin said
he's studying options involving state money. I had a council
member all be on earlier this morning and she said
the city's looking at this too. And the county held
they hearing yesterday where Alicia Reese was a holding court
as she usually does. Commissioner Reese welcome, how are you.

Speaker 6 (36:28):
Oh, I've had better days. I'll tell you that, better days.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
I bet this is tough, unbelievable. Yeah, we got so
to bring people up to speed on this. To bring
up to speed, one point four million Ohioans reliance SNAP
benefits and about forty three thousand kids, so roughly one
in eight folks who live in Hamlin County are getting
some form of SNAP benefits. Every month in Hamlin County,

(36:53):
SNAP pays out nineteen million dollars, I said, nineteen million
a month. With your budget and even the city's budget.
I don't know how you overcome that, Alicia.

Speaker 6 (37:06):
Yeah, I mean it is you look at it. We
can overcome it. I mean we're talking in almost two
hundred and forty million a year, and we're looking at
ninety seven thousand of those people like you said right
here in Hamilton County, and you know they yesterday the
Director of Jobs and Family Services. One of the things
he talked about is these are people who are working.

(37:26):
Majority of these people who actually work every day, some
of them working two and three jobs. You're looking at
children who in it's to children. Then you're looking at
senior citizens.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Who pay their dues.

Speaker 6 (37:41):
There. You know, that's a big chunk of people. I mean,
you're very pro veteran serve Yeah, veterans who serve this country.
I mean, this is this is unbelievable. And to deny
them something as basic as being able to have food
on the table is unbelieve And then one of the

(38:02):
things the food free Store Food Bank, which you know
the in world hunger. That's one of my since been dear,
dear in my heart and I've always worked with them
for you know, most of my life helping. One of
the things that was said that we can't food pantry
ourselves out into it. You know, even with the money
that we have that we had from Snap. We had

(38:23):
SNAP and food bank was kind of a gap filler.
It was never the main line. And so it won't
be we won't be able to We're going to put
more money toward that. We as a as a county commission,
we've put about two million dollars with the URPA money
that we did. We're looking for more opera money. We
know we probably got at least another two hundred thousand.

(38:47):
We're scraping to sign some others. Uh so that number
may go up, but we know that that is just
a temporary situation. Then what people don't understand the economic
impact of the snap benefits. In other words, for every
dollar that we put in you talked about the nineteen million,

(39:07):
we get one dollar and fifty four cents back. So
we're talking about almost you know, over two hundred close
three hundred million dollars economically in the economy to keep
this economy going.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Because you're going to buy stuff, you're going to go
to the store, you're going to go to Kroger, whatever,
and that money gets pumped back into the economy, and
that means jobs and a fewer people are done. You know, Okay,
you don't need that many people at Kroger working wherever
you get your groceries, and you can't you keep I
talked to a Kurt Ryber on Monday Show. Alicia Reese
CEO of the Freestar Food Bank, and he was he
was kind about that. They said, well, I'm optimistic we'll

(39:41):
get this thing settled now here it is, you know,
we're heading in the back half the week and all
of a sudden that's not looking at a certainty or
a guarantee for sure. But he said, look, we might
have to open twice a month to folks who are
on SNAP are supposed to once a month, and he's
going to have to lean on his vendors as suppliers,
and of course the generosity of Cincinnatians and they serve
not just Cincinnati, but as you know, like twenty counties.

(40:02):
So if you're hearing this and like I have make
a donation the free Store Food Bank because it's that
time of the year and now we're getting to you know,
Thanksgiving and Christmas when the need is even great. It's
like the worst time possible for this to happen.

Speaker 6 (40:15):
It's the worst time possible. And as you indicate it,
we looked at also the Director of Jobs and Family Services,
because all of the SNAP benefits don't happen just at
the beginning of the month, right, We've got half at
the beginning of the month. So we've got a group
that will be impacted November first. Then we've got another
half where theirs are in the middle of the month,

(40:38):
so theirs would go out right at Thanksgiving. I mean,
it's unbelievable. And then you talked about Kroger's and others.
They're small, there's farmers' markets, there's smaller retails. Over almost
ten thousand retails stores throughout Ohio will be affected. So
now we're talking about some you know, some of the

(40:58):
smaller stores as well as it affects you know, Kroger's
and all those because the less people buy, right, the
higher the prices and so. And then some of the
smaller retail stores, the farmer markets and those kinds of things,
some of them have indicated they might go out of business.
And those are the ones that provide the fresh fruit
into some of these food desert areas. So it's a

(41:21):
trickle effect. Then you have senior citizens who many are
on medicine, and some children that have to take medicines.
And now you have to decide can I afford the
medicine or the food. And everybody knows when you take
medicines that it says you got to eat with the medicine,
so it's a trickle down effect. And then we had

(41:41):
CMHA a director come in and he said it also
affects because now we're talking about housing and his program
has because of the government shut down. He indicated that
it will affect people with affordable housing as well. And
you know, we've been pushing affordable houses. Will people be
able to have a place to live? And you know,

(42:04):
it's slow, it's just everything, and you know, I've been
on this property taxes. He just chilling us, you know,
and we did that. We did that Bengals Deals Sloan
and they took out thirty percent, so we can't even
try to get to thirty percent rebate. Then the state
would not do anything on the property taxes. Yet they're
still fiddling trying to figure that out.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
What's going on. And that's that's a whole separate, complex issue,
right And then the main time it is coming up,
bottom line is Saturday. Unless things change in Washington, a
lot of people are going to have to do without.
And I, you know, I look at this thing, Alicia
Reese's you know, and and we even mentioned for example,
the federal workers, for example, who are working out of

(42:47):
the paycheck. And I said, when this thing started, I
was like, okay, it's theater, is what it is. And
then what happens is in about thirty days that theater
becomes reality. So you see the snap benefits cut concerns
with the FAA. You have freder worker's now missing a
couple paychecks. You know most families can afford. You know, Okay,
can we tighten it up for till the next pay cycle?
Sure we do that all the time. You start talking

(43:08):
a couple of pay cycles, that's a different story entirely.
And yet these people still have to show up to work.

Speaker 6 (43:13):
Yeah, they got to show up to work not getting paid. Song.
Now we're in twenty twenty twenty five, right, twenty twenty
five people working and not getting paid. Come on, in
this society, there'd be a furlough. These people have home mortgages,
they will have the property taxes. We do, their gas

(43:35):
and electrics do. Now you're talking over here those with
the snap benefits now they can't get anything to eat.
Children's families worried.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
How problems gonna be a problem.

Speaker 6 (43:46):
This is outrageous. And then the phone we have until
this Thursday, and I don't think it's gonna go. The
state then said, hey, you fix the problem on property taxes,
and you saw Butler County and Orange County they looking
to double the homestead to help the seniors. But it
doesn't look like you know, I asked the administrator to

(44:08):
look at all options, and it doesn't seem like I'm
going to get the support to be able to do
that here in Hamilton County. So now what do we do.
We can't give the homeowners to break federal workers furloughs.
That's your middle class that they're working with no paycheck.
Senior citizens have done their time and they can't now
get anything to eat. They don't know if to pay

(44:30):
for the medicine or can they pay to get something
to eat. Children out here hungry. These ninety seven thousand
people affected about the snap benefits, like you said, nutrition
and all that, they can't even get anything to eat,
and most of them are working every day. I mean,
what are we doing here?

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Yeah, I mean pretty soon it's gonna be you're gonna
look at it and go, okay, well I can feed
my kids, or I can pay the electric bill, and
you know, you can have a really good job and
good income stream and still feel the pinch of the
spatic hell Isshia, you got a couple of you good
money and you still have a hard time painting your
electric bill.

Speaker 6 (45:05):
Hey, let me just say let me say this.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
Let me say this.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
I am.

Speaker 6 (45:10):
I am a normal working person and I and I
have the struggles of everybody.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Because this morning Alicia was a little late because her
phone died because her power went out. And I said, well,
I mean you got pay that, you gotta pay, you
got pay, Duke Kennedy.

Speaker 6 (45:23):
Girl, I jumped up, saw said, I said, waving my glasses.
I said, wait, mante isn't say, and you know, get
my get my lecture, I got my receipt.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
I'm gonna waving in somebody's face.

Speaker 6 (45:35):
It was a power or somebody won't.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Be Yeah, that's what it is. I love the conspiracy.

Speaker 6 (45:41):
I really do.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Us Alisha ras County Commissioner on the show, it's let
me just tell a picture.

Speaker 6 (45:50):
I've got the five or three release bus and we
have helped thirty thousand people where we got the bus
going all over the county. We're going to try to
connect people to as much help as we have available
to them. Right now, we're bringing food, We're bringing all
kind of help from jobs and family services, anything we have.
We're going to try to connect them and answer the
problems that they may have. And we also try to

(46:12):
get people. Let's get these unclaimed funds, every little dollar count.
We're in a nine to one one right now.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Yeah, we are, and you hope that cooler heads prevail.
Like if I were to talk to you know, Democrats
and Republicans, I think the sentiment of the country is, Okay,
you made your point. You made your point. Now once
you get past. And the reason why the longest shutdown
was thirty five days is because after you know, first
few weeks at theater, once you start to get past
that thirty day, market really starts to hurt people who

(46:40):
don't deserve it. And you know, so at the end
of the day is you know, could play party politics
and our sides got to win and crush the other side.
But you know when when individual families and kids and
veterans and seniors are getting squeezed out and literally not
getting food, I think that's time both sides have to go. Look,
we made our point. We've eventually got a govern here.
We got to legislate and let's fix this problem through

(47:00):
the legislative action, not executive order. And a lot of
people blame Trump for all this thing, but it's party politics.
It's the lines are so defined and there's such a
gap between the two parties right now. This is why
Congress largely we're sending them to Washington. What are they doing.
All they're doing is shutting. They came and bounce a
budgetally share you got one job, you can't do that,
and then you shut the government down like every ten

(47:22):
minutes on the tens.

Speaker 6 (47:23):
Well, we got to come together. But this is an
economics fight. We've got to fight going right now. Sloan
from creating the have and the have not and the
have nots is growing and getting crushed at whatever they do.
I encourage all of them to come together, but we
also got to make sure that we could afford to
go to the hospital. I mean, I mean, it's an

(47:45):
economics fight, Like you said, whether it's a snap benefit,
whether it's a property Texas, whether it's you know, whether
it's cannot afford to go to the hospital right now,
because you know we can't basically America, we just can't
afford to pay more. We can't pay more to go
to the hospital. We can't pay more to go to
the doctors. We can't go out here and cut our
snap benefits, we can't pay more for property takes. We

(48:08):
just squeezed. So the economy has squeezed us. And like
you said, here we are down at the bottom, trying
to trying to survive. And I think I would want
all of them. I don't care who you are. Take
the posits out of it. Enough, fight for Americans to
be able to look forward.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
To live, go back and negotiate and come up with something.
And you know, Democrats, it's about subsidy. I think subsidy
is terrible because it's just making affordable or I guess
pretending to make affordable something that's not. You're taking cash
from one palm, move it to another. At the end
of the day, this is why we've got a thirty
eight trillion dollar deficit with the subsidies. Republicans and I've
talked to many of my friends in the right side

(48:45):
of the owl talk about, you know, empowering people to
take care of better care of their health and incentivizing
well and it's that's all well and good, but that
takes ten, twenty, thirty forty years or more for that
to take it. We need a plan right now. We
need to fix the broken healthcare system right now. We
don't need more sub and we don't need, you know,
to empower people in future generations to get healthy. We

(49:05):
still need to have people today that have cancer, that
have diabetes, that are in wheelchairs, that have mental illness,
all those things, and we're not we're not addressing that.
We're just kicking the can down the road. And both
sides are complicity, that's all it is. And it's squeezing
out the county, the city, the state. We're screwed. We
don't have the rainy day fund and now that was
in the proposals is to get to wind to tap

(49:27):
the rainy day funds. There's four billion dollars in that.
I don't know how long that would fund SNAP. It
might get us through another month. But the problem with
that though is, you know, Alicia, is the General Assembly
needs to pass the legislation and that's not going to
happen by Saturday. You can't directly fund SNAP because the
state only verifies eligibility. That's a federal government runs that system.

Speaker 6 (49:47):
Well, I think we all got to have there's unpresident.
This is unprecedented what we're doing.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
Self inflicted. That's the worst part.

Speaker 6 (49:55):
Yeah, with self inflicting, and Americas are getting hurt. And
I'm articles that you get in ballrooms even though it's
private money. Can you imagine three hundred million of private
money immediately? We need two hundred and forty million to
do SNAP. The money is out there, but they're just
squeezing everybody to having no money. And then only certain

(50:16):
people have money. And we, like you said, we pay
our taxes and we got to get a return on it.
We got to resenting stuff to Washington, and damn it, Washington,
we got to get it back here.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
Problem. That's a problem working people. I mean, you know,
let's take care of the working focus. Most of the
people on SNAP are working. Families are working at least
a couple jobs. And county commissioner at Lisha Reese, I'll
let you go before I don't know, do you need
a venue money so you can pay your electric bill?
Can I help you? What can I do for you?

Speaker 6 (50:45):
It's been paid okay, all right, it's been paid for.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
And you wireless clariler works, they got I don't want
to be.

Speaker 6 (50:53):
But there's some people out there. Let me just say,
who can't pay? And I guess I got a glimpse
of what it's like in the dark.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
And appreciate you so much. Alicia, thanks for jumping on
this morning. Take care, have a good one, always bringing
the heat here. Sure you don't any money that electric bill?
I get you some cash or cricket wireless. Keep that
phone going. She's good radio. She is Alicia Reese Hamlin
County Commission in a very serious issue though. On Saturday. Uh,

(51:22):
if these benefits expire, I want to believe that even
Washington has some sense and goes, you know, we really,
we really need to come to some common ground here
because people are going to suffer starting on Saturday. Now
is it gonna be Saturday? Exactly? That all of a
sudden we're gonna have all, now what four million people starving?
And I went, no, it's good a few days. But

(51:44):
the point has been made. It's time to actually govern
for a change. How about that. We sent you to
Washington to government? How about governing? Why did you do that?
Sloney seven hundred WI helping you put the big P
in profession. Here's our career shir Julie Balki, All right,
headed towards November. First, some people losing their snap benefits

(52:06):
and other people have to make a decision on their healthcare.
If you're in the private sector like me, maybe you
that means trying to figure that out and navigate that.
And only fifty seven percent of full time employees understand
their benefits coverage. That is the lowest it's been since
twenty twenty. And why that is and what's driving that?

(52:27):
She has the answers. It's Julie Balki from the Bouki Group,
career coach and consultant. It's Julie on the job of
Sloany this morning on seven hundred double dowt. How you been,
good morning.

Speaker 7 (52:38):
You know, reading this by harken back to my early
days of my career in human resources, and this is
not a new problem. In my experience. You had open
enrollment every year where people had to come forward and
say I select this program or I select this program,
and literally for something as important as healthcare and medical benefits,

(53:00):
it was like pulling teeth to get people to sign up.
And it's just confounding to me. But at the same time,
I think sometimes your health and medical benefits benefits in
general falls into that same category of I'll worry about
it when I need it, okay, like insurance, like general,

(53:20):
like home insurance, like I expect it to be there
for every every need I could possibly have when I
need it. But I don't want to put a lot
of time into reading over it because it just confuses me.
Which I got it.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
I totally get that. It's like, there's there's twenty different
plans and you could do this, and what's the out
of pocket? And the thing is, unless you're a nature,
no one understands, well, Okay, I got a colpay, I
got this forty percent, but here's our family maximum or
our monthly maximum. And then it's like I don't know what. Okay.
Then you're an STD and LTD and FTD and ESPN

(53:55):
and like my eyes glaze over.

Speaker 7 (53:58):
Yeah yeah, And I get it because those kind of
things aren't natural for me to dig in and understand either.
But it's also not reasonable to ignore it. Just pick,
you know, give me the basics, and then you find
out six months in that you have to have surgery
and it's not covered because you didn't pick the right plan,

(54:19):
that's not fair either. You know that's so there has
to be And I know it seems that the whole
areas seem to get so much more complex with whether
it's ACA, or whether you are on your souse's benefits,
or whether you're allowed to be on your spouse's benefics
if you also have full time employment. So there's all
these little loopholes and all these little if this then

(54:43):
that kind of stuff.

Speaker 6 (54:46):
But when you think.

Speaker 7 (54:47):
About the moment in which you really need once you're
really going to need it, and how it can impact
your financial future if you aren't covered and you have
to have something done anyway, you just got to bear
down to do it. And I know that that's I
know that that's hard because I will admit, back when
I was in corporate America, it was little last thing

(55:07):
I wanted to do, even for myself, and so I
get it. But and so it seems like all these
people that have said I don't understand it. It seems
kind of like a throw out my hands. I know
companies do try to explain it, do try they have sessions,
they do things to try to help you understand it.

(55:29):
But you know, I used to say about benefits. When
I was in HR, you can lean horses to water
all day long, you can't make them drink. And that's
that's really what this comes down to.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
Yeah, and I'm the old days. You know, when everyone
met in person. We still worked in a workplace, Right,
You'd have the big benefit meeting and everyone show up
and there'd be someone there presenting the information, namely Julie
Bouki or something like that, and it was a horrible
meeting because about forty five minutes in your eyes start
glazing over about benefits and then are there any questions?
And sure, uh the question. Here's Matt Reese in the

(56:02):
background raising his hand and he's going to ask a
thousand questions and drag this drag this thing out three
or four more hours long, and it's just it's insane.
It wasn't. Fortunately, you can do that online and we
have AI and stuff like that, but benefits are And
the reason why we're seeing employees understand benefits lesson is
because it's even more complex and expensive, Right, it is more.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
Complex and expensive.

Speaker 7 (56:25):
Yeah, and it feels like if the depth and the
scope of benefits get smaller and smaller, I mean, everybody
over a certain age remembers a day when, maybe even
early in your career, when you worked for a company
where it was very small copey, very small deductible, you
just showed up anywhere you wanted to and you were

(56:46):
taken care of and that was it. And it's those
days are never coming back, because certainly healthcare costs have
risen cramily for companies, and so they can't.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
You know, I just wish, I just wish at some
point it.

Speaker 7 (57:03):
Won't be where I'm alive or you're alive, but I
wish somebody somewhere would have the courage to step up
and face off with the healthcare and pharmaceutical lobby and
the insurance lobby and separates healthcare benefits from employment. That
works when they were unions with herban. It doesn't, It
doesn't make sense anymore, and it's never apa right.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
It never did.

Speaker 7 (57:28):
That's what the ACA was for, so that you weren't
stuck without benefits because you weren't employed. It attempted to
make them more affordable, and it did for many, many people,
so that you didn't have to hang on to a
job you hated just so you had your healthcare covered.
I mean even just saying that sentence sounds nutty, right,
So yeah, so it's a it's a very very complex problem.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
It really isn't, Julie.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
Let me know.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
I've been on this on this soapbox for twenty something years.
It's not that complex. All all Congress has to do
is like, look, all right, starting at this date, you
are no longer to offer healthcare benefits, healthcare benefits as
an incentive at your workplace, like you can't if you're
an employer, you don't do it, just don't do it,
and and that way you don't have well some companies

(58:15):
are offering somewhere just then the practice and allow the
free market, Allow of the open market, like you do
with your car insurance, like you do with your life insurance,
your renter's insurance, all that stuff. The money you would
save and not having to hire people like Julie Boukip
to and essentially, I mean, how much of your job
when you were in HR was HR. How much of
your job was managing healthcare costs? You had a whole team,

(58:37):
the bigger the company, you had to hire staffs of
people to do that. Go to your doctor's office, you
may have one nurse practitioner there, but there's five or
six people. Their whole job is medical coding, medical building,
doing all that stuff, putting entry level stuff to comply
with the government and to comply with insurance companies.

Speaker 7 (58:56):
Yeah, but if we're going to do that, if you're
going to say, okay, effective January first, twenty twenty seven,
healthcare is now unpethered. You have entire industrial complexes of pharmaceuticals,
medical products, doctors, hospitals, you know, medicare. I mean, everything

(59:16):
has to be ready for that and has to be
able to price it appropriately.

Speaker 4 (59:20):
They have to be able to stap for it.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
So it would take a pretty.

Speaker 7 (59:23):
Long runway to do that. Sure, but because the lobbies
are so strong in all of those they they are
in the back pocket of a lot of politicians that
will never vote for that. So here we are again,
step because our politicians have their hands out.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
Right right well, and then we need if we need fundraising,
and damn it, you can do this, and it's better
for America. It's better for the bottom line because you
can stand it. You know, democratsical plays. Look, Okay, you're
gonna have two hundred and twenty two million people who
don't have any healthcare benefits and you're a capitalist and
you have money. No, it doesn't work, though, way, the
money you save and all the compliance and all the

(59:59):
gouvern from a BS, you could take some of that
money and have health care for people who fall into
the poverty line and still have literally billions of dollars
left over, if not trillions of dollars left over to
balance the budget to put to something else. Because once
employment is tied to healthcare benefits, too many people working

(01:00:20):
crappy jobs simply because they need the benefits. It's so
very true if you free what would that do for
the gig economy On top of that, people who have
two or three or four different jobs that would allow
that to go on like gangbusters, Like what you would
make up at the back end would more than cover
the front end. But of course you're protecting someone else's turf.
You're protecting insurance companies and big pharma and insurance providers

(01:00:44):
and PBMs and all that stuff because they've made their
success and they don't want that to go away. They
don't want that gravy train to end.

Speaker 6 (01:00:51):
Mhmm exactly.

Speaker 7 (01:00:52):
It's the what we're seeing, which is I think really interesting.
I think this is sort of the future because we're
seeing harken back to the old days of COVID, which
feels like it was a you know, different lifetime. But
we saw think about we saw companies come out like okay,
day care for your petday care for your grandma, perks

(01:01:14):
for this, perks for that, you know, because they were
in attraction mode. They were trying to get people to
come work there. The problem is then when the pendulum
swings back the other way, those are the first things
to go. But what I do like about the personalization
of benefits. So let's say if everybody has the same benefit,
So as if a single person, a single thirty year
old doesn't maybe doesn't have a spouse, doesn't have kids,

(01:01:37):
and it's really healthy, they they they may choose a
more a skinninger plan and then spend again, some of
those benefit dollars for catastrophic or for you know, for
more vacation time or PTO or doggie daycare or so

(01:02:00):
I love the idea of a bank and a variety
of benefits. There's obviously a lot of regulations around this.
But the company I used to work four years ago,
you had to at least have catastrophic, but beyond that,
it was what do you need? Do you need more medications?

Speaker 4 (01:02:18):
You are you?

Speaker 7 (01:02:19):
Or can you use some of those dollars for wellness?
And so if I think, I hope we're going to
be heading in that direction because we are learning, whether
it comes to hybrid works, remote work, in office work,
one size doesn't fit all and so we have there
some sort of personalization is I think a really important

(01:02:39):
recruitment and retention strategy. But it's it's sticky, it's really
really sticky. But the companies who figure it out, I think,
are the companies who are going to be the places
that say, instead of saying here's the benefits package, Oh,
you don't need most of these things, sorry about that,
instead say what do you need and then here are
your options.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Julie Bouki, our career is sure. But Wednesday morning's here
on the Scotsland Show on seven hundred double de' lib
bit of tuck and job related stuff on the big issues.
We'll get to. The AI stuff is fascinating. We've been
talking a lot about that, but we are now in
that sweet spot here for benefits, right, it is trying
to understand your benefits coverage. Decision day is coming up,
kind of like when it was sports. To steal an
analogy there, it is decision day. You decide how much

(01:03:23):
more you're going to pay and how fewer benefits you're
going to wind up getting. It's a mess. It's a nightmare.
Only about sixty percent, less than six out of ten
full time employees fully understand their benefits coverage. That's the
lowest market it's been since twenty twenty. It's been trending
down now for the last number of years because it's
become more expensive, it's become more complex. People don't like
to make the decision. They him and haw about it.

(01:03:43):
They want to save some money, but then they worry
what if they get sick? And I cover this whole thing?
So we understand to struggle the benefits and how to
access them when we need them, because I mean, let's
face it, if your company is trying to get the
best deal possible, you're probably changing insurance companies pretty much
every year at this point. Benefitsarian and now this company
to this, well, we're not doing this, we're not covering that,
and just keeping track of it as a nightmare. Imagine

(01:04:05):
being an HR professional when HR staffers and senior management said,
and seven out of ten then say, we don't understand
it all ourselves. That's a problem. That shows you how
big the problem is.

Speaker 7 (01:04:17):
And imagine all of a sudden there's an accident, yeah,
or you're very sick.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
Is that really want to.

Speaker 7 (01:04:23):
When you want to be online trying to figure all
this stuff out and getting the bad news that you
I forgot to plan up for that, right, So don't
wait until that moment. And I always say, you know,
I had a personal experience when my husband passed away.
We had his living will, we had his healthcare power
of returning. Everything was fresh done and in a notebook,
and I just handed it to the hospital because I

(01:04:45):
was I didn't even I couldn't even figure out where
I was at the moment. So it's you know, I
think you have to start. You have to put a
little few brain cells toward figuring out am I ready
when the worst happened. It doesn't have to consume you,
but you're going to be glad you did because.

Speaker 6 (01:05:01):
It comes for us all eventually.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
Yeah. Yeah, some that's gonna come back. And I wonder
how like small and mid sized companies navigate this. You
don't have a huge HR department to navigate all the thing.
I'd imagine AI at some point, if not now, it
is starting to fill that void.

Speaker 7 (01:05:16):
Yeah, and I also they also a lot of times
they rely on their benefits provider. They're brokers, the folks
that they work with to develop the benefits programs. They
rely on them to do the communication because they really
are the experts. And so I would imagine the smaller
companies more rely on their third party administrator or there.
They're like an outsourced sort of organization that handles that

(01:05:39):
for them because honestly, they're the experts. So it's going
to be it's going to be a better use of
their time.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Anyway, before we started talking, I'll pivot to something else here,
Julie Bucky, you were going off in a private conversation
we had, and I've got a little bit more time
to kill here with you. So Zach Taylor said that
someone needs to step up relative to this this hapless
Bengals defense. Somebody needs to step up. You, as someone
who's in HR, you observe leadership. You're you know, you're

(01:06:06):
in the corner office. You're a C suite kind of person.
When you hear the head of an organization say someone
needs to step up? What does that say to you?

Speaker 7 (01:06:14):
H of course I cringe. Of course I was at
the game, so especially salty. But can you imagine the CEO.

Speaker 6 (01:06:22):
Of Croction and Gamble?

Speaker 7 (01:06:23):
And I know Jack said more than that, So can
you imagine the top of any organization, bea a government, public, private,
somebody needs to step up here? It's like, well what
happened to the buck stop here? You know? And I
know that the defense get together and have their own
meeting and all of that, but the coach, the people
at the top set the tone. People are looking for

(01:06:46):
someone to follow, either in either in tone the tone
make set, or the attitude that they support and bring
to the party. And you have as a leader, nobody
wants to see you stand up in front of a
group and go anyone, anyone, anyone, you know. I mean,
It's just that's just what it felt like to me,

(01:07:06):
and it just it just made me cringe. So I
think I was resenting to you about that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
No, I don't think you're entirely miss accurate. They're and
inaccurate there, I guess I should say, is it somebody
needs a step up. But it isn't that then indicative
of his ability as a scout slash head coach. Duke
Tobin as the is the essential of the guy who
gets the players. I mean, if you don't, if you
don't wind up recruiting in business or in football or
sports for that matter, people who not everyone's going to

(01:07:32):
be a you know, run through the wall leader. You
can't have a team full of those. But that's a
defense that tells me that's a team that doesn't have
any leadership.

Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:07:41):
Yeah, it does make me wonder a certain point. That
was all. You know, I don't even pretend to know
one percent of what there is to know about football,
so I'm always just really careful. That's like the feeling
in the stadium with something else on Sunday. It was
very much like everybody was stunned into silence.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
Then the boots.

Speaker 7 (01:08:01):
Started, but everyone's like, I mean, people look at each
other like what just happened? It was really it was
really a really different experience being there, and that doesn't
happen with tight, well coordinated teams in at Procter and
Gamble or at Kroger or you know, in the city
of Loveland or wherever you know. I mean, it's just
people are people are in all those roles, and there

(01:08:25):
are certain commonalities that all humans have with each other.
We want to be led, we want to be inspired,
and it falls to it falls to the people at
the top to set that tone. And if you can't,
you've got to look at it, bring somebody in who can.
It's that it's that little extra oomp that you get
by having an inspiring leader.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
Yeah, I don't know that at this point. If Zach
Taylor can do anything else. It's the fact that well,
they don't draft very well and don'tus address problems as
they come up. And there's a whole host of other problem.
I know they got a bigger problem because Friday is
to drop dead day on Friday, and if you want
to renew your season tickets at a higher price than
this past season, that's decision today right there. Julie Bauki

(01:09:06):
all the best our curer, shirp at the Bauki Group,
Bauk e the Balkigroup dot Com career coaching consult right
here in Cincinnati, can help you out if you are
lost in the woods or looking for your way out.
She's got you jewels all the best. Thanks again, Julie
on the job this morning with the news on the
way in four minutes and when a return. This uh
Zoar Mamdani is looks like he is going to be

(01:09:28):
the next mayor of the City of New York. Normally
don't care too much about what happens in New York City.
I care about Ohio. I came to bout Kentucky, care
about Indiana. So you look at you New York go
New York LA. I you know, not a big cable
news guy, don't really care all that much what's going
on there. But I think you'd miss something if you
didn't see that. The attitude that's allowing that to happen, granted,
very progressive, very liberal New York City, but and about

(01:09:50):
socialists with some of the policies he's proposing here makes
one shake their head. And how did we get to
this point? Is the question that someone like that can
actually win office in the larger, most impactful city in
the United States. We'll get to that next on seven
hundred WW Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
Don't want to be an American.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
Mendami. That's the name you need to know, because in
the next few days as we get to the election,
he's probably going to be the next mayor of the
City of New York. A socialist to be the mayor
of the City of New York. That is frightening for
a lot of people, warming for many others as well,
But it does throw things in a turmoil. Shows you

(01:10:31):
how the way politics is going for that matter. Also,
you know, we're in Ohio, Indiana and Kentucky. Now, if
you watch cable news, you probably get a steady die
of the fear of this guy. But most people I
live in Ohio, I'm in the middle of I don't
care who cares New York City. If he continues the
path he's going to, and let's say he winds up
becoming the next mayor of New York City, he's going

(01:10:52):
to help reshape the narrative and the politics and the
leadership nationally if that occurs. The why and the how.
Ken Girardan is with Manhattan Institute, writes about this in
Socialism on the Husband and I love the title, Ken,
how are you?

Speaker 4 (01:11:05):
Cory could be with you?

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
You're there there, You're in the heart of the thing.
So you know more about this guy than most of
us do. But is that fairly accurate, Like there's an
underbelly here that this guy and we see socialism pop
up from time to time, but this guy could be
the next mayor of New York City. That's gonna change.
It's gonna be kind of like a maybe a mini
blue wave going across the country.

Speaker 4 (01:11:25):
I'd actually pushed back a little bit and I'd say
he's kind of a lagging indicator. Okay, that is him
winning the primary. That was a kind of a wake
up call to folks to say, let's let's zoom out
and look and just see where socialist proposals have already
taken route, some of them. Donnie had spent five years

(01:11:45):
in the state of Emily in Albany, and so that
was my first stop. And I looked there and I
reviewed there are a number of socialist proposals, some of
which have pretty widespread political support, but other big ones
also predate him as an assemblement. And I thought this
was a good opportunity to take a look at the full,

(01:12:06):
the full buffet of stuff that people in the socialist
persuasion want sure, And I bring that up.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
As I said, Okay, you could see because among younger
people Younger people love socialists. You go to a college campus,
you know you've got Socialism is the greatest thaying. We
just got to do the right time. Socialism is a
failed experiment, but we just we haven't fully done socialism yet.
And that's always the excuse, right, is so why socialism fails.
And of course there's a host of other reasons. There's
you know, central planning can't allocate resources effectively, and you

(01:12:35):
get rid of competition and that drives incentivization a whole
bunch of things. And we can get into why socialism
is bad as a as a political philosophy. But young
people see because yeah, I look at young people to America.
It's New York City or Cincinnati, and hey, they're worried
about jobs, they're about housing, they worried about health care.
Healthcare is a mass. Both Republicans Democrats created this problem,
and no one has a solution to fixing it other

(01:12:57):
than more subsidies that we continue to borrow money to
give subsceeded to people to make it afford It's not affordable.
We're just taking money from one pile and moving it
somewhere else. You worry about you know, people haven't worked
two or three or more jobs just to keep their
nose above water, and a lot of people can't do that.
Housing is getting unrealistically unexpensive, So there's like a grossola
of young people feel like they're painted in a corner

(01:13:18):
right now, and that is always a catalyst or something
like this coming along.

Speaker 4 (01:13:22):
Well, let's remember everybody grows up in not just socialism,
but actually communism to a certain extent. That's where your
family is, like I have I have communism at home
with my children, where there's communal responsibility, community, communal ownership,
and that's great within the family unit. When you start
trying to build an entire society around it, that's where

(01:13:44):
things historically have always fallen apart and struggled. That's where
you inevitably have markets because you always have mismatching needs
and wants between family units. And that's something where the
socialists don't appreciate that different. It's between what goes on
in the family and what goes on between people with
different situations, resources, skills, and and neat.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
Yeah, it's socialism, is uh. And then the next phase
after communist socialism. You know a lot of people go
to school and they learn about socialism and then it
just becomes the you know, one campus agitator talking about
we just haven't had perfect socialism, the right socialism yet.
But you know the basis of socialism just in general,
let alone. The version of what democratic socialism is is
it's government ownership and control. It's a single payer system,

(01:14:31):
there's no private competition, and you need all that to
thrive into democracy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
You need that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
And you know, certainly we have problems in America, there's
no denying that. But you know, you want to be
like I don't know, you want to be like like
the former Soviet Union. Do you want to be like
you know, China during during the seventies, Do you want
to be Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea? The answer is hell, no.

Speaker 4 (01:14:55):
You're you're, you're you're very politely going through the history
of instances where major, major attempts at socialism have been tried,
and one thing that's really unappreciated all that is the
disappearance of price signals. When you start having the government
promise that they're going to provide everything. I think back

(01:15:17):
to an example from about twenty years ago when the
Cuban government had to provide rice cookers for citizens, and
there was this it was this big to do. Wow,
isn't it so magnanimous? The Cuban government is providing all
citizens with rice cookers. And the reason this happened was
because the shortage of rice cookers in Cuba had really

(01:15:40):
fanned the flames of the black market that the government
had created for everything else because people weren't because there
were so many shortages that people were having to go
and trade on their own, and you had this sort
of blossoming private, private, underground economy. And that's something that
socials don't appreciate that prices send information. Prices tell us

(01:16:02):
where things are needed, where things are wanted, right, And
that's why you see in those you know, in those
societies that they inevitably really do lean into socialism, they
inevitably run into trouble.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
Soviet Union comes to mind, chronic shortage of consumer goods
and we saw the pictures I'm lined up for toilet
paper to be handed out right. You've got abundant natural
resources in the Soviet Union, and yet that happened, and
you know, we saw the economic collapse, and then they
kind of want to go back to that because you
have a generation or two that didn't see how bad
it was. It's kind of like here with vaccines, right,
it's like, oh, well, what the vaccine's got to be

(01:16:35):
worse than whooping cough. Well, if you see what wooping
cough looks like, you would rather take the vaccine they
have wooping cough. It's the same thing.

Speaker 4 (01:16:42):
Yeah, it's unfortunate that these are the sorts of lessons
that every generation seems inevitably to have to relearn. And
it's now been thirty four years since the fall of communism,
and there are people alive in their thirties who have
never who weren't alive for the USSR, And we have

(01:17:03):
to be constantly reminding people about these about these lessons
where they still exist in the world. We can't rely
too much talk about what went on behind the Iron Curtain,
and we have to talk more about where these shortfalls
are in existing countries, including by the way, sometimes own,
and talk about where these experiments with socialism just haven't
panned out.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
Yeah, and that is a lesson. But of course the
cry has always been yeah, but it's different now, is
it really all that different? Because it's an economic next
time will be different. Yeah, next time its dead. Well,
they haven't gotten it right yet. I mean, look at
some of these other countries like Sweden, it's that's more
democratic socialism and okay, so explain to me how things
are so perfect in.

Speaker 4 (01:17:43):
A world like that and it's not even I mean,
let's be clear, there's a very big difference between having
a very robust welfare state funded with lots of taxes
and still allowing market competition to happen. What probably what
we should be more concerned abot is where the government
wants to step in and be the only provider of
certain things, where you stop having competition, where you staff

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having capital allocation. That's where you also run into really
big problems with cronyism when you start to put government
in charge of things like like the electric grid or
the healthcare system, and you you move away from what
is an imperfect but at least responsive system. And that's

(01:18:27):
one of the that's one of the importances of preserving
those market systems because in a in a poor performing
part of the market, you can always go somewhere else.
You lose that when you have the state takeover stuff
and even and like I said, in Scandinavia, they have
a lot of social wealth spending, but they don't necessarily
have assiciating state ownership of things. There's a there's a

(01:18:48):
very big difference there, and I think people try to
almost impolitely sneak Scandinavia through as some example of this,
you know, Democratic socialist nirvana.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
But it's not. And that's the thing. Most people don't
research it or find that out themselves. Can Gerardan is
here Manhattan Institute Socialism and the husband the Hudson the
husband Socialism on the husband back to your family situation. Anyway,
I'm Donnie's the guy in New York City, the Democratic
Socialists who just won the Merrill primary there, and a
lot of people are talking to this in the political scene.
And you know, if he winds up winning the mayoralship

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of New York City, which is possible, will you see
like a mini blue wave. I think that'd be like
a ripple effect because other people look at this and go, wow, yeah,
clearly the people are upset. Now that's New York City.
The politics and demands in New York City much different
than here in Ohio, certainly one hundred percent. But these
are the things, these are the mile posts that come
along and people go, wow, Okay, it's a growing movement.

(01:19:40):
It has to start somewhere, and why not in New
York City, And largely because there's a lot of people
who are affected by this economy, this effect that I
should say, with jobs and housing and healthcare. You know,
you bring up how socialism, but we have a lot
of socialism baked into policies in America, right, I mean,
you mentioned healthcare. Is there anything more socialistic than our
health care system or schools or whatever it might be. Now, granted,

(01:20:02):
we're trying to be able to take your money, make
it portable and have private schools and vouchers and things
like that with a lot of resistance, but we've got
a lot of socialism banked into the American system.

Speaker 4 (01:20:11):
Now you have instances where we were the most efficient
system right now is to have state ownership for things,
and we should be constantly looking critically at that and
looking for alternatives. Doesn't mean you should throw it out,
but we should always be asking the question is this
the most efficient, responsive way to do stuff? Because we

(01:20:32):
often find it isn't. Look at what's happened with the
postal service over the past fifty to sixty seventy years
where you've had private actors come and you know, they
have been given the space to compete, and in a
lot of cases they're eating the postal services lunch because
competition was you know, competition was allowed there. Now we're
not going to have rival you know snow. You know,

(01:20:54):
we're not going to have rival roads or a private
roads to our houses anytime soon. But in places like
the healthcare in the education space, we routinely find that
competition not only leads to innovation, but also leads to
better outcomes for folks. In New York, there are lots
of what are called charter schools, which are publicly funded,

(01:21:14):
privately run schools that parents can pick if they don't
like how their neighborhood school is performing. And there are
parts of New York City where a third of the
public school kids are now in charter schools because they've
been given that alternative, that competition. It's good, it's healthy,
and we should constantly be looking for opportunities to create
more competition, even for instances that we right now call

(01:21:36):
the government.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
It's hard to believe we're like what sixty seventy years past,
Brown versus Board of education. But that's exactly what this is.
It's like, you know, mister Brown back in the day, said,
why do I have to send my kid, my weapons
to be black to a school on the other side
of town simply because of her skin color? Why can't
you go to the one right down the street from us?
Same things happening today too. It's like, well, wait, why
do I have to send my kid across town to

(01:21:58):
a school that's performing when a underperforming school, why don't
we just fix the school that's broken that steps away
from my house. Same type of argument, and here we
go again, and a limit of time we have because
I don't know how many people are found this man
Danny thing. But we really haven't discussed his hit list,
his wants and these and what he wants to do
New York City, why he won the mayor all primary.
What are some of the promise What are some things

(01:22:19):
that jumped off the page at you when it comes
to the reforms they want to do with a democratic,
socialist or socialist system in New York City.

Speaker 4 (01:22:27):
Three major parts of some of them on Donnie's platform
were making buses free with the New York City providing
free universal childcare, and then also freezing the rent for
about half the apartment in New York City, those that
are subject to New York City rent regulations.

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
Right, Okay, so I'm a landlord, I own property, So
you're telling me I have a cap on how much
I can charge. What do you think I'm gonna do?

Speaker 4 (01:22:52):
Ken, I would not be shocked if you were to
immediately sell your property if that were the case.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
Sell to the stead or it's like, okay, fine, I'll
keep it. But you know your microwave breaks. You think
I'm going to replace that anytime soon? The roof is laking,
a pipe is broken, your refrigerator isn't working. Where's my
incentive to fix that if I can't recoup my losses.

Speaker 4 (01:23:14):
This is something again that predates Mamdani. This goes back
to the twenty nineteen rent laws in New York, which
were quite possibly the most extreme rent regulation in the country.
But what they've resulted in is something called warehousing, where
you have these apartment buildings where a tenant moved out
and the landlord just doesn't want to spend ninety or

(01:23:34):
one hundred thousand dollars rehabilitating this apartment. That's often been
occupied for forty plus years, and they don't want to
do the upgrades. They don't they don't want to spend
the money on major mitigation. So instead this apartment gets warehoused,
which means nobody gets to rent it. It contributes to
the housing shortage in New York City. It stresses the

(01:23:55):
finances of those buildings and limits the apartment owner's ability
to invest others that would benefit the other tenants. And
it is something that is there for which there Eventually
there will be a reckoning in New York as more
apartments get warehoused, as more apartment buildings get pushed into
financial distress by this law, and at the end of

(01:24:16):
the day, the biggest losers are going to be the
tenants in.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
New York City. It looks like it did in the seventies,
where you have burnt out buildings and poverty on top
of poverty, and it becomes a dystopian nightmare.

Speaker 4 (01:24:30):
I very much hope that we don't ever ever revisit
that situation that we saw, particular the Bronx comes to
mind in the nineteen seventies. I really hope we don't
get there, but it is always possible for state policy
to result in very big problems, especially at the local.

Speaker 2 (01:24:46):
Level, largely because history always repeats itself. Because we have
short memories, we don't learn, We don't look at the
past and go, wow, we got to keep doing We go, well,
why are we doing that? Why are we doing it? No,
it's different now, it's really not really that different. The model.
The model still works, and the of socialism historically speaking,
even though theoretically, you know, theory is one thing you applied,
it doesn't work. You know, central planning can't allocate resources

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unless you as you mentioned, you know, there's got to
be signals from the from the market on what a
price on something should be. If not, you're gonna have
shortages and surpluses and misallocate. You're gonna have a million
toilet seats and no toilet papers, which are gonna wind
up having. And there's no incentive for companies to make stuff.
We say again back to the Soviet Union, you have
one one type of car is all you have? Well,
good the hot did that work out for those vehicles,

(01:25:30):
whether it's in Cuba or whether it's the Soviet Union.
And Venezuela is another great example. Oil rich high You
know you can talk about not having resource, but Venezuela
is an oil is an oil rich nation. And you
look at what happened there because they nationalize the industries.
Productivity went down. You had seven plus million people fleeing
in their GDP collapsed. That's why Venezuela is in the
state that's in right, and that's why we're blown up

(01:25:51):
ships off their coast because you know, exporting drugs as
a you know, front for China is the only opportunity
that they have and it's an all origination. It's it's
a shame, it really is.

Speaker 4 (01:26:03):
Well, next time will be different.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
Yeah, but you know what, because now we have the
Internet and that's the game change. We have AI. They
didn't have the they didn't have the AI back in
the nineties. It's gonna be different this time around.

Speaker 6 (01:26:15):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
The only thing to change was we had yet people
come of age, be born and not seeing the abject
poverty and problems with these models and then they just
go this seems like a sexy thing because they're buying
you know, they're they're buying something somebody else almos like, yeah,
you don't have to work and the state supplies everything.
Sign me up? Who doesn't want that. It's like crawling
back in the womb. You don't have to be responsible, accountable.
You don't have to hustle or do anything. But if

(01:26:37):
if you do, and if you want to, we don't
have room for you. There's no incentive to do that. Again,
it's a kinjerard. And you can read about this at
Manhattan Institute dot dot com or is it dot org?

Speaker 4 (01:26:47):
I apologize it's Manhattan dot Institute.

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
Manhattan dot Institute. There you go. So I really it
could be the best, the good best, or socialism on
the husband. Anyway, thanks again, I appreciate it can be well,
thanks for you. Yeah, this guy went from come on,
it's another joke and other socialist. Actually it looks like
he's gonna wind up winning, uh, the Mayor's office city
of New York. And that's gonna be really interesting considering
this anti cop and pretty anti capitalism kind of stance

(01:27:14):
on a lot of stuff AOC incorporated over there. We'll
see how it goes. Probably not well. Probably rent control
is another one. I don't see how that works out anyway.
We live in Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana. We don't live in
New York City, so there you go news in just
a few minutes, and when returned to The Scotsland Show
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(01:27:35):
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Speaker 1 (01:28:02):
Might get a little spicy today. I'm curious, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
To know someone who's eternally optimistic, not ridiculous like SEG
where they could be oh to twelve.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
Oh, We're never on SEG.

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
Don't think you're on that level of fandom slash ass kissing,
slash delusion. Where are your craziness? Where are you with
this football team right now?

Speaker 1 (01:28:22):
The game over the weekend sent me over the edge.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
Over the edge. You were there, weren't you?

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
I was there.

Speaker 5 (01:28:26):
I was with my husband, my dad, my uncle. I
think among the four of us there were over one
hundred f bombs dropped. Hi, you going to lose to
the seven Jets. If anyone's going to hand them thirty
nine points, it might as well be the Bengals defense.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
They put up five hundred plus yards. The last time
they did that was like fifteen years ago when they
played the Bengals. The last time unheard of.

Speaker 5 (01:28:49):
God, I guess on Monday they had a defensive player's
only meeting to.

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
Be a fly on the wall and there I don't
know what they accomplished. What are you going to say,
we want.

Speaker 2 (01:29:01):
To step up? Someone needs to be a cup, somebody.

Speaker 1 (01:29:04):
Needs No, He's right, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
Adment of your team is that you don't have any leaders.

Speaker 5 (01:29:11):
Trey Hendrickson, What about that guy? Isn't he one of
the captains but he's not loud? Didn't you name six
guys as captain?

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
You the guy's going to just start screaming at guys
in the room. That's what you need. That's a leader.

Speaker 1 (01:29:23):
When am I going to see Zach Taylor throw a chair?

Speaker 2 (01:29:26):
You're not.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
I want to see some chair throwing. Come on, get
pissed off.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
Imagine what Dan Campbell would be doing, right, throw a chair?
You think Tomlin threw some chairs after you got beat
by the back.

Speaker 5 (01:29:40):
Yes, we need the Tomlin attitude here in Cincinnati Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:29:45):
Set me over. Now, it's it's Wednesday. It's so mad,
he said.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
There's the thing. That's how Zach Taylor gets fired. He
takes a chair and throws it through a window and
he gets fired for destroying company property because that cost money.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
Exactly, you're losing the jet.

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
Buddy broke a windows, get calling not sound a thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:30:04):
Of that window in that chair was sixty nine to
ninety eight at IKEA.

Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
Probably we're not going to have this run a tight budget.

Speaker 1 (01:30:10):
Down here now. That just set them over.

Speaker 5 (01:30:13):
Oh my god, I'm still not okay, speaking of money,
season ticket holders not okay. I came across this article
yesterday from Cincinnati inchoir, making its rounds all over social media.
I've got it on my Twitter X page out Sarah
at least one twenty eight go chime in. The comments
are so good. At least just read the comments about
pissed off season ticket members.

Speaker 7 (01:30:35):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:30:36):
The article is a thank you letter to the Brown
and Blackburn family for increasing season ticket pricing for twenty
twenty six. The example in this article, the guy says
he's paying forty six hundred dollars for nine games now
next season, going up to six thousand dollars six thousand

(01:30:56):
bucks in twenty twenty six. He says, since twenty twenty two,
tickets have increased by over two hundred percent. Also, season
ticket members not happy that their thank you gift is
a sticker?

Speaker 1 (01:31:12):
What a sticker?

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
A sticker?

Speaker 1 (01:31:14):
A sticker?

Speaker 2 (01:31:14):
What's a sticker? Say, season ticket holder? That's it the
QR code for Venmo. You can send him more money exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:31:23):
And I guess season ticket members are not happy because
they'll go to these like exclusive season ticket member events
where they're having to pay extra money for things like
you got to spend extra money to take a pic
with who Day or to get this little I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
Know, this extra gift. I don't know. I'm not I'm
not a season ticket member.

Speaker 5 (01:31:42):
My dad used to be, and he dropped them before
the Joe Burrow era because he was so pissed about
missing the playoffs and spending extra money and the pricing
going up and having the license for the seat and
here we go again.

Speaker 1 (01:31:53):
So and then here we go.

Speaker 5 (01:31:54):
It's like a vicious circle. You know, your quarterback is
constantly sidelined, you can't get a new defense. Pricing just
keeps going up, and then they're getting hounded by you know,
the sales, like what are you gonna do?

Speaker 1 (01:32:05):
You're gonna renew? What's going on? Otherwise you're going to
go on a wait list. If you ever want to
get them back. But here's the thing. I understand being
a salesperson with a sports team. I used to do it.
It's a very tough job. So it's not on them.
They're just trying to get their numbers and.

Speaker 2 (01:32:18):
They're getting yelled at.

Speaker 1 (01:32:18):
But yeah, and it sucks though, because they do have
to be the person that tells you, hey, the pricing
is going up.

Speaker 2 (01:32:22):
Do you want the seats?

Speaker 1 (01:32:23):
Do you want the seats or not? Otherwise you're going
to go back on a wait list for years.

Speaker 6 (01:32:26):
See.

Speaker 2 (01:32:26):
I think you're looking at it wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:32:29):
I am you know what.

Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
Yeah, here's why you're looking and why. Here's why angry
fans are okay, and I get it because they're not happy.
You shouldn't be happy about this. But here's the thing.
You need to look at this not as hey, it's
my team, I'm gonna go to every single game. You
need to look at this if you have the money
as investment. So let's say, for example, I don't know,
you're looking to see, that's a PSL, right, do the
PSL Personal seat license? In some stadiums they do this

(01:32:51):
and they don't like there's I know that my dad
had to do it right, like like like I don't know,
four grand a seat or something like that, right right, Okay,
So I got to lay that out and then look
at the season tickets and X dollars a season, you know,
a couple thousand, Okay, So if you go to I
don't know, half the home games, can you then turn
around and sell those tickets on the secondary market the
way stadiums are now, they're not doing box office. There's

(01:33:14):
no such thing as a box office. It's all secondary market,
it's all hub. It's the NFL. The NFL does it whatever, right,
So you got to look at that and go, all right,
I put the money out. If I sold tickets to
these games like the Steelers or Casey or whoever's coming
to town, can I make up in those three or
four games? Can I make up the difference and actually
make money off the season ticket?

Speaker 7 (01:33:35):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:33:36):
Members that do that and they lose money.

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
Okay, that's because it's the Bengals.

Speaker 1 (01:33:40):
They came in negative last year by five thousand bucks.

Speaker 2 (01:33:43):
That's the problem. So you got to look at that
as an investment, going, hey, can I make money by
selling this to whatever team travels? Well?

Speaker 7 (01:33:49):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:33:50):
Like you do that the red Like, look.

Speaker 1 (01:33:51):
At the Lions fans. They took over our stadium.

Speaker 2 (01:33:56):
So you're going to get some of that money back.
So it offsets that cost of being a fan.

Speaker 1 (01:33:59):
Well, thing obviously went up when we did get Joe Trout.

Speaker 2 (01:34:03):
And do you look at it as a fan, go, no,
I want to go to all the home games. And
then you're miserable about it. And I'm not saying not
buy the tickets. But you know it's set up like now,
it's more of investment going, hey can I get some
of this money back and make I may lose them
all money.

Speaker 1 (01:34:13):
I think most people come back in the negative.

Speaker 2 (01:34:15):
They're not in to make money. But it off racks
considerably that investment.

Speaker 5 (01:34:18):
Yeah, because once you do get rid of them, you
have to go back on a wait list to get them,
is what the sales rep, I guess is saying.

Speaker 2 (01:34:24):
And if you're new a fan, quit looking at it
as a oh I'm a fan, super fan, I need
to go to every game. No, you need to look
at as an investment.

Speaker 1 (01:34:30):
You can be both things.

Speaker 5 (01:34:31):
You can be a super fan and you can also
be mad about the rising cost and get rid of
your season tickets.

Speaker 6 (01:34:38):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
It doesn't go against your fandom.

Speaker 5 (01:34:41):
I mean, just because I'm going to stay at home
this Sunday and watch the game on tea doesn't make
me less of a fan.

Speaker 2 (01:34:47):
No, it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (01:34:47):
Saying this is too expensive.

Speaker 5 (01:34:49):
I did get on tickpic this morning just to look
at what it's going to be against the Bears this Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:34:53):
It's like two fifty for the end zone fans coming
down to and are they I guess so it's an
easy drug like.

Speaker 2 (01:35:00):
Cubs fans, and they're rabbit about that.

Speaker 5 (01:35:02):
I mean, the Bears aren't too bad of a team,
but four and three it's worth a travel. I've got
a couple of friends that are making the.

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
Trips sure enough. Selling your tickets for three hund or
whatever it is, and you know you offset that cost
a little bit more. You're right, it's an investment, it is.

Speaker 6 (01:35:15):
And it is.

Speaker 5 (01:35:16):
It's very expensive to go to a game. I mean
you pay for the parking and then you get a
I mean it's a seven hundred day, seven hundred dollars
day out.

Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
It subs charging the season ticket holders though to have
their picture taket with the mascot is it's insulting and.

Speaker 5 (01:35:28):
That's what the article on Inquiry is saying, go check
it out. The guy who's saying yeah, like you know,
the company the Christmas party, they're you know, they're wanting
money to take a pic with who Day with the
Santa and all that, I mean whatever, that makes no sense.

Speaker 2 (01:35:40):
This is really interesting because there's no one more positive
outside of seg on this radio station about Cincinnati sports teams.

Speaker 1 (01:35:47):
But you always try to stay positive.

Speaker 2 (01:35:49):
But Sunday she's been one hundred right now because you're like, look,
I go to all the games. You know, I'm taking pictures,
I got my all stuff, I'm supportive, I'm doing and
if you lose a release.

Speaker 5 (01:36:01):
You got real, bros, you've really lozed. And I won't
be there on Sunday. I have a reason for that.
I will be out of down.

Speaker 1 (01:36:08):
But it is getting ridiculously expensive to be there.

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
It's always just going to get more expensive every year.

Speaker 5 (01:36:14):
Yes, and again that's why my dad dropped his stuff too,
and I don't blame him. So ciccut Brice is going
up for twenty twenty six. That is something trending on
social media.

Speaker 2 (01:36:22):
Good good time to do that when your team sucks,
and I mean Joe burrowl he's fine. The offense did great,
the running game was great.

Speaker 1 (01:36:31):
Offense is not the problem. They put thirty eight points.
That should be an easy.

Speaker 2 (01:36:34):
Waiting for Joe Burrow to come. Well, if Joe Burrow
comes back, somebody said, well, talking about how they should
go and get Brendon Sorosby and Trent coach him up.
It's like, that's the dumbest rap every can you play defense?
If Flacco's fine, He's doing fine.

Speaker 1 (01:36:50):
Blacco is great. Flacco looked great on Sunday, he looked
great the week before. He looked great in Lambeau.

Speaker 2 (01:36:56):
The play calling, then you look at that in that
final stretths. It's not on Flacco.

Speaker 1 (01:36:59):
Why are you going up the middle?

Speaker 2 (01:37:02):
Thank you? Yoshibash couldn't catch a cold at this point.

Speaker 1 (01:37:06):
I love Yoshi, No you don't. I love him as
a person.

Speaker 2 (01:37:10):
I don't care about great dude's Cincinnati. But he's such
a good guy.

Speaker 5 (01:37:14):
And that's what that's what people were saying about Zach Taylor.
A great guy, wonderful family man, super nice. But I
don't want nice anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:37:22):
I want wins.

Speaker 2 (01:37:23):
Yeah, I want wins. Go ahead, and you know what
if you want to add to the crime problem. Cincinnati,
go ahead as long as you win, right.

Speaker 1 (01:37:30):
So the trade deadline is problem square.

Speaker 2 (01:37:33):
I don't care, but you're asked me to be there
on Sunday.

Speaker 5 (01:37:35):
Trade deadline is Tuesday. I don't know what they're gonna do,
if anything, What.

Speaker 2 (01:37:40):
Do you think they're gonna do?

Speaker 5 (01:37:41):
Nothing?

Speaker 2 (01:37:41):
Nothing?

Speaker 1 (01:37:41):
Nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:37:42):
We've got We're good enough to win. It's just we
need someone to step up. You drafted guys who don't
step up. That's the problem.

Speaker 1 (01:37:48):
I don't get it. What has Shamar Stewart done for
this team?

Speaker 2 (01:37:52):
Nothing be done. That's starting to look like a boss.

Speaker 6 (01:37:55):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:37:55):
He's still young. It's only a few games.

Speaker 1 (01:37:57):
But I did two and a half tackles in college
and then nothing. You went down Game.

Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
Two and then getting coached up. I don't know what
it is, but it ain't good.

Speaker 1 (01:38:07):
This defense is really it's horrible, not good.

Speaker 5 (01:38:10):
Hor Speaking of bad news for the defense, Trey Hendrickson
is day to day back with that hip injury. That's
definitely we saw him go out before halftime.

Speaker 2 (01:38:18):
Day to day.

Speaker 1 (01:38:18):
It's three Hendrickson a waste of money.

Speaker 2 (01:38:22):
Well, I mean, you don't know. One guy get hurt.
That's not fair.

Speaker 5 (01:38:24):
I understand that, but can we say that he's injury prone? Well,
it's a lot of money for that guy, though we
really haven't seen much out of And guess what when
he was on the sidelines during that Steelers game, they
still managed to win.

Speaker 2 (01:38:37):
You got me slit my wrist? You got any good news?
I love crapping on the Bengals a year.

Speaker 1 (01:38:43):
Hey night, we're moving on.

Speaker 2 (01:38:49):
I did.

Speaker 5 (01:38:49):
I watched it the entire time. Dank is king with
twelve minutes left to go, I was so excited. Hopefully
they can go and get it done this Sunday and Columbus.
I have all the faith in the world in this team.
Please bring us ho much.

Speaker 2 (01:39:00):
They were all over them and they should have six
goals and they just couldn't find And finally.

Speaker 1 (01:39:03):
They dominated that game over Columbus really did. It was great.
It was great.

Speaker 2 (01:39:07):
Eventually they go in but on Columbus that fought pretty well.

Speaker 1 (01:39:11):
How many games away until the final? I guess five?
They have to get five like that?

Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
Yeah, hopefully you go to Columbus on what Sunday night,
Sunday night and beat them there and then you don't
have to play that third. You don't want to go
to a third game exactly. I don't want to shoot
from the longest time. I hate the idea of going
to a shootout.

Speaker 5 (01:39:28):
But I think that they have to do that during
regular season games. That's something that you got to do.

Speaker 2 (01:39:31):
But don't they do that in the playoffs too? Don't
they go to a Yeah, they go to like a kid,
they go.

Speaker 1 (01:39:35):
Directly to that.

Speaker 2 (01:39:35):
Oh, I think that's terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:39:37):
I just don't like the ending in a tie thing,
especially in the.

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
Playoffs, right, you can't do that, you know, It's like
hockey sudden death overtime is great speaking of my falls
over dead because.

Speaker 1 (01:39:46):
I know we don't have a whole lot of time left.
We're trying to keep it positive.

Speaker 2 (01:39:49):
Let's go.

Speaker 5 (01:39:50):
Our Cincinnati Cyclones are back tomorrow night, and it's it's
a very special night.

Speaker 1 (01:39:56):
Why because I'm going to be the sirens and I'll
have a very special guest with me day.

Speaker 2 (01:40:03):
A siren sound like can you imitate the siren in
exactly saying that's what she sounds like to her husband
all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:40:17):
Too.

Speaker 2 (01:40:17):
That's the best part. I don't know all I hear.

Speaker 5 (01:40:20):
I told you I'm spicy today, Okay, I'm I gotta
get over.

Speaker 2 (01:40:24):
Who's a special guest the sirens? Hander?

Speaker 5 (01:40:26):
You have to be there to find out. Trey Hendrickson, No,
his hip bothers him. Sure, we don't need him to
pull a hip while he's moving the siren.

Speaker 1 (01:40:34):
And it won't be Joe Flacco because he's day to
day with a shoulder injury.

Speaker 2 (01:40:38):
Oh my god, you can't even get past it.

Speaker 5 (01:40:40):
But less than one hundred and fifty days until opening day,
all right? Oh, and they found out who did the
Marty statue vandalism. Yeah, a thirteen year old child. I
love a thirteen year old boy. At three o'clock in
the afternoon.

Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
On Saturday, engine boded my CPD sources said they found
a little hunkle other paints.

Speaker 1 (01:41:06):
What do you do with the thirteen year old kid?
He doesn't go to jail.

Speaker 2 (01:41:09):
He did it, and like he tried to fix it.

Speaker 4 (01:41:11):
He did.

Speaker 1 (01:41:12):
He's like, oh crap, that mic just came off the stand.

Speaker 2 (01:41:14):
I didn't see that, and then he ran off. I
didn't see the whole video. Did he intentionally try to
bend the mic or was he trying to It's.

Speaker 1 (01:41:19):
Kind of hard to tell. The footage so grainy. What
did Marty say that Mic is about as strong as
the Bengals defense.

Speaker 2 (01:41:27):
Let me tell you should.

Speaker 1 (01:41:32):
A lot more bothered Trump and had the National Garden.
My god, I thought so too.

Speaker 2 (01:41:38):
Will you start to facing my likeness?

Speaker 1 (01:41:39):
No, that's when we got a real get them damn.

Speaker 2 (01:41:41):
Soldiers, Downtell. I don't know what the hell they're doing
down here.

Speaker 1 (01:41:45):
It wasn't the swat out. They said they're gonna be
out from two to ten sniper.

Speaker 5 (01:41:48):
Where was the swat Snipers around the Marty's lasher? Just
now we're going to have security around this thing that's
glued to the wall.

Speaker 2 (01:41:55):
You are clear to take the headshot? Clear? Did you
do what you want to? Found and you can do
what you want to crime running rampant, but don't you
deface the Hall of Famers.

Speaker 1 (01:42:05):
Don't disrespect my guy.

Speaker 2 (01:42:07):
Don't do it. That bronze is etched in bronze. Sarah,
release the Snart report this morning. Any very dismal, depressing.

Speaker 1 (01:42:15):
Please get it done this weekend.

Speaker 5 (01:42:17):
Please go get the win against the Bears, because then
they go to the by and then the schedule doesn't
get any easier.

Speaker 1 (01:42:23):
It doesn't get any easy.

Speaker 2 (01:42:24):
I'm loose to the Jets. I don't get it. I
don't know what to expect Sunday. I really don't, but
I'll watch.

Speaker 5 (01:42:29):
That's what I have no prediction. To ask me about
a score because I have no idea. I could have
never predicted thirty nine to thirty eight would be the
final against the Jets and seven Jets now the one
and seven.

Speaker 2 (01:42:37):
One and seven, congratulations. Cincinnati is that team.

Speaker 5 (01:42:39):
If anyone's going to get those stats up for other teams,
it's definitely going to be our defense.

Speaker 2 (01:42:43):
They always optimistic. Sarah, lease that siren go again.

Speaker 5 (01:42:53):
Come to the Cyclones game seven thirty puck job tomorrow.
You will hear the siren for yourself and see my
special guest.

Speaker 2 (01:42:59):
And Okay, the scary part about Thishau, I wonder do
people with with what's going on downtown when when people
hear that siren, do they just do they hide under
the seat, think that just twitch.

Speaker 5 (01:43:09):
A little bit, a little bit like promise you it's
a very pleasant. But the police definitely not.

Speaker 2 (01:43:16):
Or cat and heat. I don't know what's going on
over here.

Speaker 1 (01:43:18):
Honestly, that was not a bad impression.

Speaker 2 (01:43:20):
There's cats lining up at the door right now. They
want to make you.

Speaker 5 (01:43:22):
I just looked, Sure, I gotta get out of here.
She that's just really lingering. I'm here now with a soup.
I need soup taken.

Speaker 1 (01:43:35):
More calls that I By the way, those calls are entertaining.

Speaker 2 (01:43:37):
That's that that right there, Spicy back tomorrow. K Christio
one of two to have any BNS to snort report
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