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October 29, 2025 • 16 mins
The Federal Government shutdown is now in it's 4th week. Next up on the budget chopping block are SNAP benefits. With the threat of thousands loosing their ability to get food, Scott talks with Hamilton County Commissioner Alicia Reece about what the county can do to help it's citizens in need eat.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You want to be an American idiot, Scott plown back
on seven hundred WWS. So we have a coalition about
half of the United States. The United States and District
of Columbia are suing the Trump administration over the suspension
of food staff benefits. With the government shutdown happening right now,
so here in Ohio we can't control DC. But now
we're going, all right, what about Snap? What about TAMP?

(00:22):
What about Wick? What about that money if we don't
get federal funds? With looking that way as we get
closer to Saturday, locally, Governor Dewin said he's studying options
involving state money. I had a council member all be
on earlier this morning and she said the city's looking
at this too. And the county held they hearing yesterday
where Alicia Reese was a holding court as she usually does.

(00:42):
Commissioner Reese welcome, how are you?

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Oh, I've had better days, I'll tell you that, But
I bet this is toughbelievable.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Yeah, we got so to bring people up to speed
on this. To bring up to speed, one point four
million Ohio WANs reliance SNAP benefits and about forty three
thousand kids so roughly one in eight folks who live
in Hamlin County are getting some form of SNAP benefits.
Every month in Hamlin County, SNAP pays out nineteen million dollars,

(01:14):
I said, nineteen million a month. With your budget and
even the city's budget. I don't know how you overcome that, Alicia.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, I mean it, you look at it. We can
overcome it. I mean, we're talking to almost two hundred
and forty million a year, and we're looking at ninety
seven thousand of those people, like you said, right here
in Hamilton County, and you know they yesterday, the Director
of Jobs and Family Services. One of the things he
talked about, these are people who are working. Majority of

(01:44):
these people who actually work every day, some of them
working two and three jobs. You're looking at children who
innocent children. Then you're looking at senior citizens who pay
their dues. There you know, that's the big chunk of people.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Serve.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah, veteran to serve this country. I mean, this is
uh uh, this is unbelievable. And to deny them something
as basic as being able to have food on the
table is unbelievable. And then one of the things the
food Free Store Food Bank, which you know, uh, the
in world hunger. That's one of my it's just been dear, dear,

(02:26):
my heart, and I've always worked with them for you know,
most of my life helping. One of the things that
was said that we can't food pantry.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Ourselves out into it.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
You know, even with the money that we have, uh
that we had from SNAP. We had SNAP and food
bank was kind of a gap filler. It was never
the main line, and so it won't be we won't
be able to We're going to put more money toward that.
We as a as a county commission, we've put about
two million dollars with the URBA money that we did.

(02:58):
We're looking for more our money. We know we probably
got at least another two hundred thousand. We're scraping to
sign some others so that number may go up, but
we know that that is just a temporary situation. Then
what people don't understand the economic impact of the SNAP benefits.
In other words, for every dollar that we put in

(03:22):
you talked about the nineteen million, we get one dollar
and fifty four cents back, So we're talking about almost
you know, over two hundred close three hundred million dollars
economically in the economy to keep this economy.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Going, because you're going to buy stuff, You're going to
go to the store, you're going to go to Kroger whatever,
and that money gets pumped back into the economy, and
that means jobs and a few people are done.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
You know, Okay, you don't need that many people at
Kroger working wherever you get your groceries, and you can't,
you can't.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
I talked to a Kurt Ryber on Monday Show, Alicia Rees,
CEO of the Freestar Food Bank, and he was he
was kind about that. He said, well, I'm optimistic we'll
get this thing settled now here it is. You know,
we're heading in the back half the week, and all
of a sudden that's not looking at a certainty or
a guarantee for sure. But he said, look, we might
have to open twice a month to folks who are
on snap as supposed to once a month, and he's

(04:13):
going to have to lean on his vendors as suppliers.
And of course the generosity of Cincinnatians and they serve
not just Cincinnati, but as you know, like twenty counties.
So if you're hearing this and like I have make
a donation the free Store food Bank because it's that
time of the year and now we're getting to you know,
Thanksgiving and Christmas when the need is even greater. It's
like the worst time possible for this to happen.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
It's the worst time possible. And as you indicate it,
we looked at also the Director of Jobs and Family Services,
because all of the snap benefits don't happen just at
the beginning of the month. Right, We've got half at
the beginning of the month, so we've got a group
that will be impacted November first. Then we've got another
half where theirs are in the middle of the month,

(04:55):
so theirs would go out right at Thanksgiving. I mean,
it's believable. And then you talked about Krogers and others.
They're small, there's farmers' markets, there's smaller retails. Over almost
ten thousand retails stores throughout Ohio will be affected. So
now we're talking about some you know, some of the

(05:15):
smaller stores as well as it affects you know, Krogers
and all those because the less people buy, right, the
higher the prices and so and then some of the
smaller retail stores, the farmer markets and those kinds of things.
Some of them have indicated they might go out of business.
And those are the ones that provide the fresh fruit
into some of these food desert areas. So it's a

(05:38):
trickle effect. Then you have senior citizens who many are
on medicine, and some children that have to take medicines,
and now you have to decide can afford the medicine
or the food. And everybody knows when you take medicines
that it says you got to eat with the medicine.
So it's a trickle down effect. And then we had C. Mha,

(06:00):
a director come in and he said it also affects
because now we're talking about housing and his program has
because of the government shut down. Uh. He indicated that
it will affect people with affordable housing as well. And
you know we've been pushing affordable housing. Will people be
able to have a place to live? Yeah, And you know,

(06:21):
it's it's just everything. And you know, I've been on
this property taxes just chilling us, you know, and we
did that, we did that Bengals deal sloan and they
took out thirty percent, So we can't even try to
get the thirty percent rebate, then the state would not
do anything on the property taxes. Yet they're still fiddling their.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Trying to figure out what's going on.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
That's that's a whole separate, complex issue, right, and then
the main time it is coming up, bottom line is Saturday.
Unless things change in Washington, a lot of people are
going to have to do without. And I, you know,
I look at this thing, Alisha Reese's you know, and yeah,
we've mentioned, for example, the federal workers for example, who
are working out of the paycheck. And I said, when

(07:06):
this thing started, I was like, Okay, it's theater, is
what it is. And then what happens in about thirty
days that theater becomes reality. So you see the snap
benefits cut concerns with the FAA. You have Frederick workers
now missing a couple paychecks. You know most families can afford.
You know, Okay, can we tighten it up for till
the next pay cycle? Sure, we do that all the time.
You start talking a couple of pay cycles, it's a

(07:26):
different story entirely. And yet these people still have to
show up to work.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, they got to show up to work not getting paid.
Now we're in twenty twenty twenty five, right, twenty twenty
five people working and not getting paid. Come on, in
this society, there'd be a furlough. These people have home mortgages,
they will have the property taxes. We do their gas

(07:52):
and electrics do. Now you're talking over here those with
the snap benefits. Now they can't get anything to eat.
Drin's families worried how this is outrageous, and then this
song we have until this Thursday, and I don't think
it's going to go. The state then said, hey, you

(08:13):
fixed the problem on property taxes. And you saw Butler County.
In Warren County, they looking to double the homestead to
help the seniors. But it doesn't look like you know,
I asked the administrator to look at all options, and
it doesn't seem like I'm going to get the support
to be able to do that here in Hamilton County.
So now what do we do. We can't give the

(08:34):
homeowners to break federal workers furloughs. That's your middle class
that they're working with no paycheck. Senior citizens have done
their time and they can't now get anything to eat.
They don't know if to pay for the medicine or
can they pay to get something to eat. Children out
here hungry. These ninety seven thousand people affected about the

(08:55):
snap benefits, like you said, nutrition and all that, they
can't even get anything to eat. And most of them
are working every day. I mean, what what are we
doing here?

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, I mean pretty soon it's gonna be You're gonna
look at it and go, Okay, well I can feed
my kids, or I can pay the electric bill. And
you know, you can have a really good job and
good income stream and still feel the pinch of the spadic. Hell, Alicia,
you got a couple of your you you make good money,
and you still have a hard time paying your electric bill.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Hey, let me just say let me say this.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Let me say this.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
I am.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
I am a normal and I and I have the
struggles of everybody.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Because this morning Alicia was a little late because her
phone died because her power went out.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
And I said, well, I mean, you gotta pay that,
you gotta pay, you gotta pay.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Duke Kennedy girl, I jumped up, saw, I said, wait,
you know.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
I got my receipt. I'm gonna go waving in somebody's face. Somebody, Yeah,
that's what it is. I love the conspiracy. I really
really do to do.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Alishers County commissioner on the show.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
On It's long, let me just tell a picture. I've
got the five or three release bus and we have
helped thirty thousand people where we got the bus going
all over the county. We're going to try to connect
people to as much help as we have available to
them right now. We're bringing food, we're bringing all kind
of help from jobs and family services, anything we have.

(10:25):
We're going to try to connect them and answer the
problems that they may have. And we're also trying to
get people. Let's get these unclaimed funds, every little dollar count.
We're in a nine to one one right.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Now, Yeah, we are, and you hope that cooler heads prevail.
Like if I were to talk to Democrats and Republicans,
I think the sentiment of the country is, Okay, you
made your point.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
You made your point.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Now now once you get past And the reason why
the longest shutdown was thirty five days is because after
you know, first few weeks at theater, once you start
to get past that thirty day market really starts to
hurt people who don't deserve it. And so at the
end of the day is you could play party politics,
and our sides got to win and crush the other side.
But you know when when individual families and kids and

(11:07):
veterans and seniors are getting squeezed out and literally not
getting food, I think that's time both sides have to go. Look,
we made our point. We've eventually got a govern here.
We got to legislate, and let's fix this problem through
the legislative action, not executive order. And a lot of
people blame Trump for all this thing, but it's party politics.
It's the lines are so defined and it's such a
gap between the two parties right now. This is why

(11:30):
Congress largely we're sending them to Washington.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
What are they doing. All they're doing is shutting.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
They came and bounce a Budgetala share you got one job,
you can't do that, and then you shut the government
down like every ten minutes on the tens.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Well, we got to come together. But this is an
economics fight we've got to fight going right now. Sloan
from creating the have and the have nots, and the
have nots is growing and getting crushed at whatever they do.
I encourage all of them to come together, but we
also got to make sure that we could afford go
to the hospital. I mean, I mean it's an economics fight,

(12:03):
like you said, whether it's a snap benefit, whether it's
a property taxes, whether it's you know, whether it's cannot
afford to go to the hospital right now, because you
know we can't. Basically, Americans, we just can't afford to
pay more. We can't pay more to go to the hospital.
We can't pay more to go to the doctors. We
can't go out here and cut our snap benefits. We
can't pay more for property texes. We just squeezed, you know,

(12:27):
the economy has squeezed us. And like you said, here
we are down at the bottom, trying to trying to survive.
And I think I would want all of them. I
don't care who you are. Take the posits out of it.
Fight for Americans to be able to look forward, to live, go.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Back and negotiate and come up with something. And you know, Democrats,
it's about subsidy. I think subsidy is terrible because it's
just making affordable or I guess pretending to make affordable
something that's not. You're taking cash from one palm, move
it to another. At the end of the day. This
is why We've got a thirty eight trillion dollar deficit
with the subsidies publicans, and I've talked to many of
my friends in the right side of the OL talk about,

(13:04):
you know, empowering people to take care of better care
of their health and incentivizing wellness. That's all well and good,
but that takes ten, twenty, thirty, forty years or more
for that to take it. We need a plan right now.
We need to fix the broken healthcare system right now.
We don't need more subsidy and we don't need, you know,
to empower people in future generations to get healthy. We
still need to have people today that have cancer, that

(13:25):
have diabetes, that are in wheelchairs, that have mental illness,
all those things, and we're not addressing that. We're just
kicking the can down the road. And both sides are complicity.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
That's all it is.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
And it's squeezing out the county, the city, the state.
We're screwed. We don't have the rainy Day Fund. And
now that was in the proposals is to get to
wind to tap the rainy Day Fund. There's four billion
dollars in that. I don't know how long that would
fund snap it might get us through another month. But
the problem with that though is, you know, Alicia, is
the General Assembly needs to pass the legislation and that's
not going to happen by Saturday. You can't directly fund

(13:58):
SNAP because this date only verifies eligibility.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
That's a federal government runs that system.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Well, I think we all got to have there's unpresidented.
This is unprecedented what we're doing.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
It's self inflicted. That's the worst part it.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, with self inflicting, and Americas are getting hurt and
you're reading articles that you get in ballrooms even though
it's private money. Can you imagine three hundred million of
private money immediately? We need two hundred and forty million
to do SNAP. The money is out there, but they're
just squeezing everybody to having no money and then only

(14:33):
certain people have money. And we, like you said, we
pay our taxes and we got to get a return
on it. We got to resenting stuff to Washington, and
damn it, Washington, we got to get it back here.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Problem.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
That's a problem working people. I mean, you know, let's
take care of the workers focus. Most of the people
on SNAP are working. Families are working, at least a
couple jobs and Connie commissioner at Lisha Reese. I'll let
you go before I don't know you do. You needed
a venue money so you can pay your electric bill?

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Can I help you? What can there for you?

Speaker 2 (15:03):
It's been paid? Okay, all right, it's been paid and
you're wireless?

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Clearly word.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
I don't want to, but there's some people out there.
Let me just say who can't pay? And I guess
I got a glimpse of would have liked to be
in the dark and that day.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Appreciate you so much, Alicia, thanks for jumping on this morning.
Take care, have a good one, always bringing the heat here.
Sure you're not any money that electric bill? Get you
some cash or cricket wireless? Keep that phone going. She's
good radio. She is Alicia Reese, Hamlin County commission in
a very serious issue though. On Saturday. Uh, if these
benefits expired. I want to believe that even Washington has

(15:43):
some sense and goes, you know, we we really, we
really need to come to some common ground here because
people are going to suffer starting on Saturday. Now, is
it gonna be Saturday exactly? That all of a sudden
we're gonna have all Now what four million people starving,
and no, it's good a few days, but uh, the
point has been made. It's time to actually govern for
a change.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
How about that.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
We sent you to Washington to governor, how about governing?
Why did you do that? Slooney seven hundred w
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