11-19-25 Scott Sloan Show

Scott talks about the move of the St X v Elder game to Paycor Stadium with the CEO of In-Game Sports Tom Gamble. Also representatives of Dorothy Lane Market explain how they can help you with your Thanksgiving Day dinner. Finally Councilmember Jeff Cramerding gives an update on the future of the Banks project.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Don't want to be an a Manican idiot.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
That's a loan on seven hundred WLW. The question should
teenagers remain amateurs? Well, every adult around them profits from
their performance on the field, on the court, wherever it
might be. That's a question Ohio School principles are asking
themselves this week. They are voting as we speak, over
the course of this week on what the Ohio Name,
Image and Likeness policy will be. The old nil. We

(00:26):
are only one of six states without a policy, and
so I mean it's coming to a head right now,
right the pimple's gonna pop on that. Speaking of pimples,
my boy Tom Gamble, the CEO of In Game Sports.
They produce their Reds High School Showcase Skyline Chili Crosstown
Showdown half of the Two Angry Guys back in the day,
my former colleague. And also I will point out commissioner

(00:47):
of the GCL South, which features Tomorrow. I keep saying Tomorrow.
I know I want it to be Friday already like
everyone else's Friday. It's Elder Saint X at pay Court.
Twenty thousand tickets will go on sale at ten am,
less than an hour from now. As a matter of fact,
only online. You can only get that at THEHSA website,
and I'd expect those twenty thousand to go pretty fast.

(01:08):
Tom Gamble, that's a hell of a setup. Welcome back.
How are you, Sloane?

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Doing great?

Speaker 4 (01:13):
Yeah, appreciate the opportunity, and you know why not, Why
shouldn't teenagers and high school athletes. But it's it's very tricky,
it's and it's funny you brought up about how there
are only six states that don't have that IL, Ohio
and Indiana ironically being two of the six. But here's
a statistic. Since two thousand and two when the OHSAA

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member schools, over eight hundred of them voted against the NIL.
Since then, right back then, there were nine school nine
states that had ANIL. Now there's forty four. But here,
get a load of this. Less than one percent, less
than one percent of student athletes in those forty four
states take advantage of it. I think it's gonna you're
gonna find it's gonna be much trickier to do it

(01:57):
at the high school level. Everybody sees what's going on
in inner collegiate athletics, specifically in football and primarily men's basketball,
those two and needs.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
To be a little bit different to the high school level. Yeah,
I think in Indiana's surprise too. As big as basketball
is there too, you think they'd be on this thing.
But it's inevitable. I mean, if you look at the
trajector this time, this is what back in twenty twenty
two is when we last voted down in Ohio and
Jamier Brown comes along and changes the game. He's a
if you don't know who that is, wide receiver. He
put up as a sophomore one thousand yards and fifteen

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touchdowns up in Dayton. He is committed to be a
receiver for the Ohio State University. In twenty twenty seven,
he fought a lawsuit that forces the Ohio Athletic Association
High School Athletic Association to address this issue. So I
don't know much has changed between now and then, but
is do you think the outcome will be different this time?

Speaker 4 (02:46):
Well? I do. I think it's going to be voted
in and here's why. And I think you brought up
you're correct. A Franklin County judge issued a temporary restraining
order allowing Brown through his family right, and that's that's
the key. Steen athlete and family. I'll get to that momentarily,
but allowing him to pursue this currently well, that expires.

(03:08):
Training order expires on December fifteenth. So the challenge is
in the OHS. They ain't says, hey, we member school,
we want to legislate this, because if we do not,
if we don't vote this in, you never know. It
should be the judge, you never know, would the governor
at some point get involved. We've seen that before, right,
So if you want to, if you want to maintain

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control and put up some guardrails and do things like that,
then I think you're gonna see. And I've talked to
a number of athletic directors, of which I am obviously
not one, but I deal with them all the time,
and most have told me they will vote yes. Because
of that, they figure it's better to enact it now
and then tweak it as you go. You know, you

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got to start somewhere, and to your point, is inevitable
it is coming at some point. So their thought process is,
let's get it in there now and then let's deal
with it now. This is a proposal, And I read
through and I watched the presentation that the OHSAA put
together and they've hired a company called Influential Athlete. And

(04:12):
it's interesting. It's a husband and wife. He was a
former high school athletic director and the wife there they're
the gradis Joe and Stephanie Grady. She was a figure
skater and spent ten years doing television news. She was
an anchor. So they've lived the life. And I think
what they what they're trying to do is educate the
athletic directors and the people from the member schools of

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the OHSAA on how this is done, what's legal, what's
not So I think here's the biggest points is this
it's set up. We're the only onus on the school itself,
is that they have to police their own kid should
they sign an agreement. It's designed to be the student
athlete and the family and the OHSAA. So if you

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get an agreement you as a student athlete, you have
fourteen days to send that agreement to the OHSAA for approval. Now,
on the surface, you know, it seems if everybody I
hate to say what I'm about, okay, go, if everyone
follows the rules, this would be great. This would be
a win win for everybody. The issue is gonna become

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not everybody follows the rules, of.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Course you will. You're gonna have people wanting to game
the systems with anything in life. Tom gambles here he
is mister high school football in the Tri State and
as Commissioner GCL South, He's gonna have Elder Saint X
highlighted at a pay corps on Friday. That's gonna be great.
Tickets are going on sale shortly. Here we're talking about nil.
It's before Ohio high school principles. All the members of
the State Athletic Association get one vote on this for

(05:44):
each school, each member school. And it's interesting because I
was looking through getting ready for this at the Canton repository.
They surveyed a bunch of schools up there, and I'd
imagine the same sediment is true in Canton and Akron,
is it is in Cleveland or Toledo or Dayton or
Youngstown or here in Cincinnati or Columbus for that matter,

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And that is the sentiment is it's inevitable, but they're
really real reluctant. So essentially the quick read on this
is administrators oppose it almost overwhelmingly. The college and ile model,
but believe high school and ile is going to happen,
and that they have to set rules rather than have
the courts and legislature and pose them. As you said,
But you know, to me, there's always been this hypocrisy

(06:27):
Tom of well, this is about educational athletics. Administrators say
high school sports are educational opportunities, not modetization, not vehicles.
Yet schools, I mean, how much money are saying acts
and elder going to get from ticket sales from this game,
concession sponsorships, broadcast rights. Some schools are paying coaches six
figure salaries. I mean, how do you defend that position
if everyone profits, accept the people who are on the

(06:48):
field performing.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
Well, that's where it got to with college athletics, and
I'll get to that question momentarily. Here's the big word
I think that needs to be talked about. You can
have no elective So what that means is colleges and
universities in their athletics department. So like I use Texas
Tech University, they had a bunch of you know, I'm
presuming oil guys who have done well, say here's seven

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to seven and a half million dollars, go out and
get a defensive line. Okay, that's the collective. It's it's
the schools, the boosters you cannot as part of this
collective is strictly prohibited under the OHSAA proposal. So what
that means is so it's no different than really recruiting.

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So school A where stud player is attending school B
can't all of a sudden go hey, we can offer
you this, you just come here, and that is even
going to be vetted out. Let's just say because again Tony,
you know, you know it's going to happen at some point.
But what's gonna what's gonna happen is so if you're
at if you're the athletic director at school A, and

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suddenly stud athlete goes to school B and you don't
hear anything about out any nil deal. But then after
he's there for four to six months, here comes this
and again I use the term massive. I don't know
how mad it can even be at the high school level.
But then that school aad he's going to go wait
a minute, and on it happens in recruitment, right, I mean,
that's supposed to be illegal recruiting. It's going to happen

(08:19):
at some point in time in this nil personal branding,
you know all of that, but let's just hope. Let's
just hope that you know, we all have always said,
haven't we high school sports and amateur sports is the
last bastion you know of purity that there is. Now
we're all not that naive right out, but let's hope

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that if it's structured where the school is out of it.
So in other words, and this is why I don't think,
I mean, people think there's going to be crazy types
of money thrown around. I live in northern Kentucky. Kentucky
has legal nil. I don't know of one kid that's
been out there prominently. But then I because here's why.

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You can't wear in a video or a photograph. You
can't wear your school logo, you can't be with your
school mascot, you can't be videoed on the sidelines or
on the court. So it has to be you. It's
your public recognition that you've achieved because of your athletic fame. Well,
sonny do this pick any kid the best football player

(09:24):
in Cincinnati, right, he's not in uniform, he has no
identification of school, yet he's doing something for a company.
How many people outside of the school or he plays,
would even know who that person at all?

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Not at all. I mean, you know, when you see
the commercial with Jamar Chaser, example, Joe Burrow, you know
they're wearing it, it's pretty clear they're in a Bengals uniform.
Or because it's good for the league, it's good for
the brand. I don't understand why the schools wouldn't want
to embrace that. And the other element of this too
is because that makes it less attractive to stay in Ohio.
And now were saying there's no collectives here in Ohio,

(09:59):
so that ham during this, I go, are you just
gonna get recruits like the top picks? And you know,
mister football for Ohier, mister basketball, they're gonna wind up
going to some out of state prep school or an
IMG academy type program because they can monetize.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
It better that they're gonna do that anyway. I mean
that that's big time dollars. I mean, you know, there
was a basketball player from from Newport, Kentucky who went
down to a prep school in Georgia who is now
committed to the University of Kansas. I mean, he's that good.
But you're going to get that anyway. But but I
think if you want to maintain to your original question,

(10:36):
you know when we started the amateurism piece of this,
you've got to legislate this, and that's why the UHSAA
would rather govern it. And I think here's the other thing.
Of the less than one percent in the forty four states,
the majority of mos right out and this is a
three year period. Essentially, the majority are in Olympic sports.

(10:57):
Because you're not a running back wearing a uni form
that nobody sees what you look like. You're you know,
you're maybe a gymnast or a golfer or a tennis
player where they see you where your you know, your
public recognition is just you, if not the team. So
I think you're going to see a lot of those companies.
But are they really going to get a ton of

(11:18):
money or are they going to get golf balls and
golf yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Know, quarterbacks versus yeah, golfer. But I mean, you know,
it's still there's some local celebrity element to it, no question,
Yeah it's and every little bit helps. I mean, if
you get you know, a lifetime supply of bridge stones.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
Good, yeah, oh I have no, I don't have any
issue with it, and I think most of. I think
the biggest thing back in twenty twenty two is it
wasn't clarified enough. I think the OHSA has clearly refined this,
and if you look at all the details of their bylaws, right,
they've put some real time and thought into this. I

(11:55):
think the original issue was the schools felt like the
own this was going to fall fully on them. And
believe me, a high school athletic director today, you gotta
be nuts to be a high school ad with the
way parents are today. Right, we'll start with that, but today,
can you imagine if you had to govern all this,
Not that you have nothing to do here, because you're
going to have to pay attention if your athlete signs

(12:17):
an agreement, but by having no collective and by making
it the onus of the family and the student athlete
and the OHSAA, hopefully high schools won't get overburdened with
this because God knows they don't have the staff the time.
I mean, high school ads will flee, they will run.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Probably walk to the I would think so, because you know,
there's the one percent reality in a less than one
percent of kids are going to go on to a
collegiate or pro career. Yet forty percent of parents think
that that's the case and that you know that's true,
But that also adds an interesting mix to team chemistry,
entitlement issues, and the parent pressure as well. Man, what's
happening in the locker rooms is the question? You know,

(12:58):
if if you know the quarter back or I don't know, alignment,
someone is getting paid and making some money off this,
is there a jealousy component and other high jealous high
school kids undermining them and thinking it should be them,
And what happens in that locker room?

Speaker 4 (13:11):
Well, I think it goes to the kid who maybe
is a D three player whose parents are delusional that
he's going to play in Alabama or Georgia. So now
you're going to have a think about it. So the
onus is on the family and the kid. Well, how
many moms and dads are going to because I know
I've known of circumstances where moms run X accounts for

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the kid. The kid doesn't want anything to do with it.
That's how crazy this is. So now we're going to
have parents out there seeking these type of financial opportunities.
And again I'm not blaming anybody for trying to better
themselves financially, But do you really want that? How many
kids won't even know that their mom or dad is
out there trying to get these deals. It's like the

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old Hey, you know, my son should be starting over yours. Well,
if you want to talk to me, we're going to
bring in the kid who you'rs. And most of the
time when they have those meetings coaches, the kids don't
even know what's going on. That's how crazy this has
gotten over the years.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, it's you're going to see you know, toddlers in
the weight room now pretty soon, because he's destined, right,
I mean, that's where it's going to be. It canna
be recruited out of kindergarten at some point.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
Yeah, it's it's coret. Well, that's and you bring up recruited.
I think that's the challenge of this. You know, there
already are enough issues with recruitment, and now you add this.
I think that's where the high school administrators have the
biggest issue. Look, it's hard enough to govern recruiting. Now
you're going to add this name image lightness component with

(14:41):
financial wherewithal to it? Can you imagine, you know, soorry.
The good news is the Elder saying, next game Friday
night at Paycorps. That's that's the thing where you know,
that's where I hope, that's where it's fun. That's what
it's about. You know. These are two teams. I mean
Elder was down twenty two to nothing and incredible to win. Yeah,

(15:04):
a great finish. It scored you know, nine points in
the final minute one and Saint X, which lost to
Moler during the regular season, came back and beat them.
I mean those are you know, Elders undefeated. I mean,
these are this is what high school sports is supposed
to be about, you know. And it's it's great that
they're playing at pay Corps. I hope the weather holds
off and doesn't.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
You're not looking good, but I mean you're you know,
you're in high school kid, You're playing at Paycorps. How
cool is that?

Speaker 4 (15:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (15:30):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (15:31):
And maybe some well played football. What do you think
I would think?

Speaker 2 (15:34):
So between Elder and Saint X bragging rights to the
west Side, he was a commission to GCL South will
probably pacing up the sidelines like an expectant parent. I'd
imagine Tom, and we're just like, what almost forty minutes
away from tickets going on sale at the o hss
A website, so not less than an hour from now
for sure, Uh, twenty thousand should go pretty quickly.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
I would think solony on one thing, I never go
on the sideline because what you don't want is I
don't hire the officials. Now playoff time, they get selected
from around the state. But I learned a long time
ago stay out of harm's way because I don't know
if you know this or not, but coaches aren't necessarily
logical during the heat of again, right, So and who

(16:18):
do they go looking for a poor sucker like me?
That's right. You know what's funny is it'll be interesting
because you know, pay Corps is so big, you know
what I mean. I mean, it's obvious. We've got to
go back to two thousand and one. There was a doubleheader.
It was Princeton Saint X and Cole Raine Elder forty
eight thousand and change almost fifty thousand people. Was a

(16:40):
regional semi final. So this is the next step, the
regional bucks. But we really haven't seen that since. You know,
that was one of those you know how you have
the perfect storm. The weather was gorgeous. Princeton was having
a great year. It was Cole Raine Elder was playing
every year, so I mean it was it was just
But I think it'll be a great crowd. I think
two good football teams we need. We need a Division
one stay champion. So hopefully one of these two can

(17:01):
bring one back.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, that and that would certainly it'd be fair expected too,
with the level of talent that you have. And it
doesn't get a belted better than Elder Saint X. I
mean that is there's probably west Siders taking up arms
right now between the two the two teams. But I
love that kind of passion that you're bringing. Are you
surprised quickly? Tom? How how how quickly the deal was
able to get done by the commissioners and the Bengals,

(17:23):
because man I heard these like they want to take
the pay carse like Bengals don't do anything quickly, and
they did to their credit.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
Yeah, County, I think I know. I've I've talked a
couple of times to Kevin Askell and choose the athletic
director at Elder at Denise three House, who's a county
commission Obviously, I think they have a connection to Elder
and it takes someone like that and you know, I
can't remember it might have been her, might have been
somebody else talked about you know, this is a county facility.
This is what this is for, yes, And that's the

(17:50):
best thing for me because I know there have been
some previous times when when maybe you know, the least
agreement and there two well you know, we don't want
this and that. And it helps to have the turf,
right when you get the synthetic turf, because when you
go back to two thousand, it was Elder Highlands was
the first game high school game ever played there, right,
so you know it's been since twenty eighteen when Coda

(18:12):
West played Saint X and the season opener. But it's great,
I mean for a game like this, and you know
it's probably Sloany would have been at UC that they
not had their you know, National Gavy game and you
know that's the whole thing, and it would have been
sold out there. I mean, I think that's which is cool,
which is a great atmosphere. But the play where the
NFL plays, it's it's a great experience for the kids

(18:35):
and deserving.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
I think so too. That's gonna be fantastic, Tom Gamble,
all the best brother, I'm glad you're doing well, CEO
of In Game Sports, the commissioner of the GCL South
and be highlighted on Friday night at pay Court. Doesn't
get any better than that, All the best man, thanks again.
Be well, you got it, say to you slone all right?
Right then, late, I got to get a news update
in It's a Scott Sloan show seven hundred w. Welcome

(18:58):
back on Scott Sloan. This is seven hundrelw and not
good news if you like, if you're an adult and
you make adult decisions and make choices on what goes
in or doesn't go into your body, and you like
to have fun as you know. For a while, been
following this issue over hamp particularly intoxicating hamp in Ohio,

(19:19):
where we finally got over the hump here and figured
this out and said, hey, listen, we've got businesses that
are spending hundreds, if not millions of dollars investing in
THHD infused beverages. Then many many adults enjoy, and many
adults prefer over beer over alcohol, over the hard stuff,
because of how it makes you feel. Following the ingestion
of said product, and plenty of Americans medicinally a recrelation

(19:41):
to use THC cannabis. I do myself, don't have a
problem with it, doesn't ruin my life, makes me feel better.
And I think when you start infusing the beverages with
this stuff and it's regulated, of course, like alcohol is,
that's good for the econmic's good for the consumer. You
have choices now, and it's all about choices in America.
But politics once again rears its ugly head. So as

(20:02):
you may or not know, Congress closed the farm bill
HEMP loophole during the government shutdown vote. And it was
one of those hey, we'll just a vote timing, we'll
vote on it and see what's in it later. And
this is sad because literally Ohio has had the rug
pulled out from under us now, in particular based on
this vote that came down because recently this was debated

(20:24):
in with the General Assembly and Governor de Wine signing.
It's saying, okay, this is good. What we have to
do here is allow the THD beverages to continue. We
can regulately, we can put limits on it, we can
oversee it. But we realize that countless individuals and investors
have put tons of money, literally tens of millions of
dollars into this industry that is now, at this rate,

(20:46):
going to eclipse the craft beer industry because craft beer
has been suffering for a while and the makers of
the craft beer and the brewers are looking, wow, we
need an alternative here. We got to figure out how
we're going to keep the lights on.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
And so.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
He comes along and they're like, this is great, and
we're seeing a huge spike in number of people enjoying
it because the word spread and now we have politics
as usual absolutely destroying this in Ohio. So here's what
just happened. Okay, I mentioned that Ohio legislators had the
rug pulled out, had lost all the leverage overnight because
of the government reopening, and part of the shutdown vote was, well,

(21:22):
what Mitch McConnell have proposed. And as much as things change,
it stays the same. As much as you hear about
my god, we've got the GOP in charge, we've got Republicans,
we've got President Trump, we have the Senate, we have
the House, we control the governor's man, we got all
the wisds. Is great, It's going to be the greatest
thing ever. We're going to make money. Everyone's going to
be rich. We're cutting two thousand dollars checks. Things are great.

(21:46):
What's really changed here because Senator to Mitch mcconne, I'm
going Senator Mitch McCall is a great example of follow
the money in politics, and so McConnell. In twenty fourteen
last re election, Bill i'st what ten years ago? He
received more donations from the beer, wine, and liquor sector
than any other senator in Congress, over one hundred and

(22:10):
forty four almost one hundred and forty five thousand dollars. WILLIAMS. Street,
who is the former head of Jack Daniels, is his
top individual donor. He's given seventy three thousand dollars in
contributions over Mitch McConnell's career. As a matter of fact,
three of the top five donors to Mitch McConnell are

(22:31):
from the Jack Daniels corporation.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
And in the.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Past he's supported and got through legislation to give tax
advantages for liquor distillers. I don't have a problem keeping
business in Kentucky and the Bourbon Trail, and of course
that's you know, Jack Daniel's difference Tennessee. But you know
what I'm saying is that, Okay, that's all well and good,
but over his career he's received all this money from
alcohol and tobacco. But in particular this is alcohol because

(22:59):
Congress just closed the farm loophole allowing THHG level products
to remain open. But what wound up happening was Congress
comes along and says that's it, and it was buried
as part of the government of the ACA shut the
So two things followed the big money here. Secondly, why

(23:21):
is this even part of reopening the government when the
debate was over healthcare and they said, oh, we kind
of slipped this in at the last minute, slipped it
in at the last minute, Like I'm sorry, but if
Democrats did this, you'd be losing your mind right now.
But no one's paying attention because it's mit, dear old mischipaccadum.
It's absurd, it's horrible, and this is what's wrong with
politics and those people who would defend this activity simply

(23:44):
because they were Republican. It's just simply intolerable, is what
this is. Because so many people rely and have invested
money here in Ohio and other states for that matter,
but particular in Ohio that you simply can't you can't
fathom just how this whole thing's going to play out. Now,

(24:05):
maybe there is a little bit of hope here because
I guess you know the doomsday scenarios. You have an
entire industry wiped out. The THC beverage sector in Ohio
is literally going to be made extinct by this. And
it's the doing of Mitch McConnell, it's doing of the
Republicans support and voted for this thing. And so what's
going to have to happen is now you're going to

(24:26):
have to if you are one of these beverage makers,
leave the market entirely liquidate your inventory over the transition period,
which you're hearing is maybe they have a year to
do this, and just hope against hope that maybe that
there's some sort of federal intervention later on, going hey,
we screwed this up, we need to redo this. But
the idea is to reopen the government. Is now you
have destroyed the entire industry where people have literally put

(24:47):
their life savings into. Not to mention the bartenders and
restaurants and stores because the way and work as well.
You can sell the product, but now it has to
be a dispensary. Who's going to go go to a
dispensary to buy this stuff? The bars are selling it now,
Like you want to go sit at a bar and
enjoy one of these beverages. And I'm sorry if you
don't like THC or you don't have to. But if

(25:09):
you sit there enjoying your craft beer, your Budweiser, your
Miller Lite, your Mick Ultra, your craft beer the day,
whatever it is, and you're sitting next to somebody who's
enjoying a I don't know, a martini, a Manhattan, a Cosmo,
a glass of wine, and then somebody is sitting next
to them enjoying a THHD infuseed beverage. It's absurd to

(25:32):
think that the people who are drinking the beer, the wine,
and the alcohol would look down their nose at someone
enjoying a thhdu infuse. It's the same thing you're drinking
for the effect. People say, wow, I drink for the taste. Yeah, yeah,
that's certainly a factor. Niple. Let's face it, we drink
to have our inhibitions drop to feel better, to feel comfortable,

(25:53):
to maybe make pain time happen, but largely because it's
social and it loosens you up and it feels good.
That's why we drink alcohol. Nothing better than a buzz, right,
provided you're not driving a car, you're not hurting anyone
but yourself. And I always, it always is funny to
me the level of people with you know, country club
folks who would be looking down their nose at people
who smoke weed back in the day, even though they're well,

(26:14):
you guys are drinking you know, four or five martinis.
Well that's that's classier. It's a classier high. You're still
getting high. And to think that this whole industry now
has been really put in jeopardy is disturbing on so
many levels. What happened to free market economies? What happened
to free market republicans for that matter. And I'm sure
there's democrats to get money from, you know, from the

(26:37):
alcohol lobby, for sure, but this has Mitch mccone's fingerprints
on it, unfortunately, and it's it's sadly devastating on an industry.
And it also makes the case where well, you know,
you talk about Joe Biden in the auto pen. Is
there something going on there? Does Mitch McConnell actually aware
of what's going on at this point? It's so sad
and unfortunate. But you know, if you're a bourbon producer,

(26:57):
which I'm a big fan of bourbon, obviously, I understand
you got to protect your interests, you're protecting your market share.
But again we're back to what government doesn't do, and
that is to be the official, to be the referee,
to make sure that the rules apply fairly to everyone else.
And when you talk about ACA subsidies, which I'm against
because it's just a subsident, it's stupid. Democrats love subsidy,
but I don't know, it looks like Republicans are playing

(27:18):
that game as well. I mean, you know, you're giving
alcohol subsidies out and you're protecting that industry from THG producers,
THCH beverage producers, And that really is the maddening part
of this whole thing that plenty of people and I
think it's one of those things too. It really is
a turning point because you know, as someone who is
a person who uses cannabis, I look at it and

(27:42):
I get that there has always been a stigma against
cannabis users. You know burnouts, you know Jeff Spacoli, Cheech
and Shong, you know Bill and Ted, whoever it might be.
There are a bunch of stoners and slackers. Yeah, I
get the perception. And the marijuana users really quite honestly
didn't help themselves with that brand. But it became mainstream.

(28:02):
We realized the medicinal properties of it, the curative properties
of it. When it comes to hemp, the ability to
use hemp as a is a product as a material
to fashion things out of. But then that small amount
of THC and there can be still extracted as a loophole,
because this is the loophole government created so they can
make these THC and fused beverages. And now there are

(28:22):
just so many people, everything from suburban moms to urban dads, etc.
Are enjoying THD and fuse beverages and they're really not
different than Seltzer's mom waters and stuff like that. And
we had the craft beer industry that came along, then
we have the Seltzer industry in that that was a spike.
Now we have THHC. That's a spike, and you're going

(28:44):
to undermine all that because of special in church politics,
and I thought that the whole idea was to go
to Washington and change all this stuff. Well, guess what
if you're not satisfied completely with what's going on with
this administration with Trump, as I am not. I think
there's some wonderful things he's done. I think there's a
number of things he does that I shake my head
and go, what are we doing over here? This would

(29:05):
be one of the men I know that Trump's doing.
But again, this is politics as usual. It's the good
old boid network, and it's money getting what it does,
doing what it does. In this case, it's destroying an
entire industry. And it's unfortunate, really is because so many people,
like I said, I, are leaning into THC and fused beverages,
and now that one hits home. Whereas you may not
have you know, had an edible or smoked or vaped

(29:26):
or tinture or whatever it might be delivery system, Now
people are going, wow, you know, it's THHD thing. It's
a different kind of buzz than alcohol. And I feel
so much better the day after than I do when
I have a few beers or a couple glass of
bottle of wine or I don't know, a pitcher of margaritas,
for example. Boy, this I feel I feel a little
bit better about this. Plenty of people experience in the

(29:47):
word of mouth travels and that's why it's in the
industry in itself is exploding right now, or at least
it was, and now we're going to undermine this whole thing.
So long story short, it is gravely disappointing. It's unfortunate.
It's a sadd indictment of our political system that we
think is changing, but it's really not. And it also
limits your choice in your ability to do things sin
as an adult that adults are allowed to do in

(30:09):
this country simply because of big money. I'm not naive
enough to think that somehow this is going to change things.
But again, this is the price that we pay for
the system we have. And when you talk about how
to blow up the system and change it structurally, change Washington,
I don't know why we're not exploiting and talking about

(30:30):
this more, because that is absolutely a great illustration and
a metaphor for how we feel about our government today.
Quick time out, We've got news on the way in
about eight nine minutes. Here on seven hundred. WLW got
a special treat coming up at ten oh seven for Thanksgiving,
a little bit something, a little bit different involving that

(30:50):
that's coming up on the show. Speaking of the holidays
and the like. Though this is you know, you hear
those what do they call them? Not a not a
test but a I guess an index indexes. I guess
what they would call this on you know, American consumer
habits in the economy, like, you know, people are buying less,
Big Matter, the Big Mac indicator or something like that.

(31:14):
This is a new one, Kevin Kevin McAllister index. So
home alone, Home Alone two. If Kevin McAllister were doing
what he did today, how much would that cost versus
what nineteen eighty nine in Home Alone? The people at
I select dot com did this the twenty twenty five
price tag of Kevin's like this would be Home Alone two,

(31:36):
then the New York City Escape, and in nineteen ninety
two when Home Alone two came out, that would have
cost two thousand, one hundred nine dollars. How much would
Kevin McAllister's New York City Escape cost today? Well, the
Plaza Hotel suite he was in was eleven hundred dollars
back in ninety two. Today that suite goes for over

(32:00):
six thousand dollars six thousand a night. Damn. His room
service feest was just under one thousand dollars today, that'd
be about twenty two hundred dollars. The ice cream Sunday
then was eighteen today it's twenty four. And that's the
most reasonable increase too. So the action retail cost from

(32:20):
nineteen ninety two being twenty one oh nine to twenty
twenty five, that number eighty five hundred dollars, which is
a over three hundred percent jump, and it still doesn't
include you know, taxis or I think he donated money
in a toy store and airfare and all that other stuff.

(32:41):
And yeah, that's a four hundred and sixty eight percent
increase of the Plaza Hotel suite. That's some serious money, Kevin.
That's some serious We have the Kevin McAllister Index. And
now you know, you know Scott's loan show back after
news in about five here, hang on seven hundred WWD,
since then, do you want to be an American? Slowly

(33:04):
back on seven hundred WLW DONF know this, but one
week from tomorrow. It is the best holiday of your
hands done. It's the best holiday. Why because it's all
about food, It's about family, it's about football, the three oups.
There's no pretext, there's no gifts. There's just food. There's gluttony.
There's passing out on the couch at three o'clock with
your hand down your pants, waking up at five from
your turkey and deuced stupor to eat more food. Have

(33:25):
a sandwich with stuffing on it. Carbs, carbs and more carbs.
That's what I'm talking about. And nothing embodies that more
than the new Dorothy Lane Market and Mason where I am,
and Chef Carrie Walters is here, she's executive chef, corporate chef,
and Mike Chrisman is the director of the meat department.
Forty seven years. Mike, you've been handling meat forty seven years. Yes,

(33:46):
I've been in the meat business for over forty years.
Rank the top three cuts of meat in your mind?
Number one is what.

Speaker 6 (33:51):
A ribbi prime rib goes with everything? Prime prime rib yeah,
prime ribbon, red wine. All right, that's the big one.
I wouldn't argue with that prime rib thing. It's it
is delicious, and if you ask a butcher behind the
candle counter, they'll tell you their favorite steak is a ribbu.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
It's always a ribb. It's marbled, the flavors there because
you have the fat, the caramelization. You got all that
working on too. And I don't have to tell chef
that what's the best way to cook us a ribbi?

Speaker 7 (34:19):
And low and slow? I love that reverse ser Oh yeah,
little thermometer.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
So I'll go in to Dorothy Lane. I'll get a
nice inch and a quarter maybe two foot thick ribbi
and I'll take that and I'll put it in my
smoker at two twenty five and then get it to
one eighteen and then take it off and then sear it.
And then you have a reverse seer with the crust
on it, and it's got a little smoke to it.
That's what I like. How about that? Absolutely we go there,

(34:47):
we're talking food. If you can't tell, I'm into this
thing right now. Congratulations. By the way, Dorothy Lane Market
opening in Mason. I was kind of joking with carrying
everyone else to like it felt like this thing has
been under construction since eight teen sixty four, and it
took like three years to come to it, but it's
absolutely go. I've yet to be in because two or
three times we went by. I'm like, we can always
go in. We live right there. It's like there's always

(35:09):
a line, which that's a good sign, right absolutely. Why
is explaining this way? Why is Dorothy Lane so popular?
Why is it such a big thing so iconic?

Speaker 6 (35:17):
Dorothy Line is a popular because it's got a history
in Dorothy Lane's family owned business, been in business since
nineteen forty eight. We've grown, We've grown slow. This is
our fourth store, so it is the place, it's place
to be. We've gone a little bit different direction.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (35:33):
When the industry has taken one turn, we've taken the
opposite term. So we're a gourmet retailer in the Dayton
area and we've got things that note you can't find
anyplace else.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
And you have a significant number of foodies around, especially
in Mason. Do you know the chef. There's things that
you would look at us Durre and go wow, you
that you can't find in the world.

Speaker 7 (35:51):
Correct, correct, And we make a lot of our things
from scratch, so we kind of cross the board between
old fashion. We have great potato salad, great additional macaroni salad,
but we also have a really fun vegan chickpea salad.
So we you know, we're trying to make everybody happy, Grandma,
your teenage.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Well, it's like if you know, it's not like a supermarket.
It is, but it's a restaurant too. It's it's a
really interesting combination. We go in, there's a lot of
great chef made, chef inspired and fresh. You know, I
can go in and get it, get a ribb if
I want right, Yeah, you.

Speaker 6 (36:21):
Can get a ribbi coach right on the grill the
way that you want it on the grill, and you
can take it upstairs to our cafe and eat it
right there. Have Uh it's perfect date night, yeah, to
go and watch the sunset and have a nice steak.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Right.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
And it's it's a really cool common because we've moved
into that era. Now you go to any grocery store,
especially Dorothy Lane, and there's all the prepackaged. We don't
have time to cook like we used to. It's especially
like I'll do it on the weekend if I have
time even but it's great to go in and get
and and now what you guys have is so diverse.
That's the cool part. You're just talking about adding Indian food, right, correct?

Speaker 7 (36:53):
Correct, Yeah, we have a really very large clientele and
that's they're looking for more of the you know, lagoon friendly,
delicious vegan. So it's really it's been fun to you know,
start to really devolve into some of that.

Speaker 8 (37:10):
As far as where are you on vegans, Mike, not
at my house. It's a sour I love to talk.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
By the way, it's a chef Carry Walters and my
Christmas who has been working the director of meat for
doroth A Lane Market, my guy forty seven years. By
the way, that's incredible. A guy who knows every cut
of every you name it. It's a fowl, is it fish?
Is it as a beef? Is it pork? He's got
He's on top of it. Let's talk about turkey, chef
real quick, Brian or no, Brian. I'm a Brian guy.

(37:41):
I get my fresh bird. I brind it overnight. I
know the ratios if you if you're going, well, okay
fresh turkey, Uh, you gotta do. I think it's it's
probably best to probably Brian that get all of flavor
and it would you agree? I like dry braining a
little bit better, which is what how do you do
that salt?

Speaker 7 (37:59):
And if I always to tell people to cook the
turkey and what they want on the dinner plate. So
if you're into crispy delicious skin, some rub it all
over with salt, leave it uncovered in your refrigerator overnight,
and that skin.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Will just be delicious. Why doesn't skin get crispy moisture?

Speaker 7 (38:16):
Number one?

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Moisture is escaping, So if you do it one of
those plastic bags, you're probably not gonna be crispy skin.

Speaker 7 (38:22):
That's right. I grew up with my we had no
color on our skin whatsoever. My mom's of course, my
mom's turkey was delicious, but it's not the turkey that
I make. Yeah, so you kind of pick and choose
your battles, decide how you're gonna get what you want
on the dinner plate. How what's the best choice cooking
wise to get there?

Speaker 4 (38:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Yeah, and then it's should dry brian was the dry
rub basically or the wet Brian is a cup of
salt and gall of water. And then but then you
can add all sorts of different stuff.

Speaker 7 (38:49):
Oh sure, and you're in your wet Brian absolutely. You
know a lot of people struggle with that, like where
am I gonna put it right?

Speaker 3 (38:54):
You know?

Speaker 7 (38:54):
Can I use a cooler? My big thing is if
you're a big gravy person, a big pant sauce person,
and maybe Brian wetbrining is not for you, but that
Wetbrian gives a very moist, delicious Uh.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Well, that's where you go, see Mike in the butcher department.
You get the turkey, but then you get like some
backs and wings and drums, and then you make the stock.
Ahead make the stock and then make and everything else.
Because the gravy pulls it all It's like the it's
like the rug. The rug pulls it all together. The
gravy pulls it all together. Here, gravy becomes a beverage.
If it's good enough, I make a pretty good grave.

(39:28):
I'm sure chef makes it much better gravy than I
do too, So.

Speaker 7 (39:31):
It's someone a pretty amazing gravy. It's always fun to
see the day after Thanksgiving all of the crowds are
coming in because they all ran out of gravy and
they need to have the gravy.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
That's amateur move man. The turkey parts this time of year,
you get some necks and the good the good stuff,
and you cook that down and make your own stock, right,
and then you make your own gravy out of that.
Just got plant of the head. Do a little bit
ahead anyway on that too. How big a bird should
you get is the rule. It's like a pound pound
and a half a person. We recommend one pound per person. Okay,
but to get a turkey, you know, a turkey's at

(40:04):
least ten twelve pounds, so a small turkey. If you
have a fifteen sixteen pound turkey, it's going to feed
fifteen sixteen people. Yeah. But if you like leftovers, get
the thirty pound turkey. Get the thirty pounds.

Speaker 7 (40:15):
Yeah, Or do what I do, and I buy a
small turkey for all of the yummy parts, and I
buy an additional breast to get Oh yeah, sure the
next day to the turkey sandwiches.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Now you can do it a lot too. If you
want to get crazy right.

Speaker 7 (40:28):
With that, I'm coming to your house.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Oh yeah, I got overruled. I want to do that
one year and I'm like, no, we want the turkey,
we want the tradition, because it's about tradition, right, it is,
but explain that what I just yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
I always stuck.

Speaker 7 (40:39):
My mother in law has been making turkey obviously for
a long time, and my first year of being married,
it's always kind of a war. That's not how I
did it. That's not how my mom did it. I
don't agree with what you're doing, so I think a
lot of the don't talk politics. Maybe talk about your
stuffing versus my stack. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're a
way of turkey right to do it right?

Speaker 5 (41:00):
You know it.

Speaker 7 (41:01):
It's a people are very passionate about. They don't want to.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
I used my God bless and my late moms for recipe.
I got the it's on an index card and uh,
you know, trying to read her cursive from years ago.
But her, I'm just we all grew up with her
stuffing and that's it. And she would make you know,
there are maybe six of us, but she'd get two
loaves of bread to make the stuffing with some stuff.
We were eating stuffing at Easter at this point. You
know it is, but it's it's what it is. I

(41:25):
mentioned a lot. So anyway, you take a breast and
you slight you can, but you can do that in
the butcher shop. So it's like a pinwheel. Basically, you
put the stuffing in and then you roll it up
and if you want that it's and then you slice
it and it's beautiful on the plate. But it's not
really traditional. But you guys would butcher.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
That, right.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (41:39):
Absolutely, Yeah. We'll get asked all kinds of things to
do for their turkey. Uh like what, well, everybody will
want you other to be a bunch of people want
it'spatch cocked, which is where we take the backbone out
and crack the breast so it lace flat. So if
it lays flat, it's gonna cook quicker. Right, You're not
going to stuff it is easy?

Speaker 7 (41:57):
Yeah, which is another big lemon.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
True.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Yeah, Now what about a turn ducket? Have people still
doing that?

Speaker 1 (42:04):
I hope not.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Why give me the chefs and gonna carry chefs here?

Speaker 7 (42:07):
So you know all that poultry we need to cook it.
The center power needs to be one sixty five. And
if you're sticking a quail inside of a chicken inside
of a turkey, think about what that outside of that
turkey is going to be at by the time the
tiny little inside is one hundred and sixty five degrees. Wow,
it's well passed time.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Yeah, I gotcha. It's definitely could a little bit dry,
is what you're saying. Yes, gotcha. But people still do
the turn ducket, Yes they do. There'll be a few,
not a lot.

Speaker 6 (42:34):
We'll get asked to make some, but in the company
we probably won't make fifteen sixteen of them, gotcha. Compare
when you're selling thousands of turkeys, fifteen sixteen of them?

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Right?

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Yeah, what do you so if someone says, you know
what a turkey it's it's been done, that's old, that's
twenty twenty four. I want to do. So what is
the biggest alternative to turkey for Thanksgiving? Prime rib? Prime
rib has always been like meat? Yeah, met, prime ribbon
is not going to do a meat at the holiday?
Prime river of fil a.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
All right?

Speaker 2 (43:06):
What do people usually get about wrong about the like
a standing rib roaster? A prime rab?

Speaker 6 (43:11):
People tend to overcook them, so they want to they
want to get it done. And prime rib is good
at one hundred and twenty degrees and if they they
cook it too long, it usually gets overcooked. Yeah, it's
got to be rare, yes, absolutely, And then you get
because they've had it before and it's like a shoe, right,
Well you do that ro stpeep, same thing. Right, It's

(43:32):
got to be you know, an order to slice it
and get that. It's you got to have that juice.
And some people don't like it, then you should not
be eating that.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
Right.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
Oh yeah, anyone to come in and just have hot dogs,
get some mets on the grill Thanksgiving, not for Thanksgiving.
No people like that, And I know some people that
would go out. I'm just got going to do burgers
and hot dogs in study this morning. It's on my Christmas.
He is the Dorothy Lane Market Mason by the way,
meat department director there has been doing that for four decades.
And Chef Carrie Walters, who's very young and has only

(44:00):
been doing this for a few years, but she is
in corporate twenty five years corporate chef. And we're talking
about Thanksgiving it or ready for Thanksgiving? Gett your bird?
Can you still get a fresh turkey?

Speaker 6 (44:09):
Absolutely, we're gonna take Yeah, we're gonna take fresh turkey.
Order something until the twenty fourth, gotcha. So it's a
good idea to place in order so that you get
a turkey in the size range that you want if
you come in and just try to get one, it
may be what we have left is what you're gonna get.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Gotcha, all right? Always a good idea to place STORER
give me a side this year, chef, Well you have to. Okay,
we got mashed potatoes. Everyone has their favorite mashed potatoes.
Maybe the yams sweet potatoes. Got that recipe, let's talk
about I'm not get even. I'm not even going to
taint this convers I'm just gonna go green bean castrole.
Where are you on that?

Speaker 7 (44:43):
I love green bean castle for but I like it fresh.
Oh okay, so we actually sell a delicious several different
types of green beans. But I'm not a big canned person,
so I like to blanch the green beans off. I
make a mushroom sherry sauce. I deep eye shallots at home,
and I kind of do that same similar taste, nostalgic,

(45:06):
but it's a lot better.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
I want to come to your house. Then said, well, trade,
how's that you hang out with my family? Hanging out
with yours probably actually go a lot better.

Speaker 7 (45:15):
Super popular.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Yeah, probably work out for a lot of people. It's
a trade. In the twenty twenty five Thanksgiving Day Draft
the Selected from Mason, Ohio. Yeah, and I always annually
do a rant against green bean Castle. I declare you
hot every year on green bean Castle because it just
seems insulting to me. You take a can or a
frozen bag of mushy green beans, you get some soup

(45:39):
mix in their can of soup, and then some pre
fried onions, and you mix it all together and you
bring that that is such a disgrace to this this
hallowed holiday. I will not stand for it. Green Bean
Castle does not have a place on my table.

Speaker 4 (45:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (45:52):
What's really scary is I think if you just interviewed
the top you know, ten people at walk into our store,
how much green bean castrole is on their menu?

Speaker 2 (45:59):
People love it. Yeah, It's cheating, is what it is.
This is the one high. It's about food, right, and
this is it. I mean, if you can't put on
a show and do the right thing on Thanksgiving, there's
no hope for this country. There's no hope whatsoever for
there's no hope for America. So I'm like Bill cut
Bill Cunningham of food over here all right other side?
Do where would you go with?

Speaker 5 (46:18):
Like?

Speaker 2 (46:18):
I want to try something a little different, but not
get too crazy.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
That's right.

Speaker 7 (46:21):
I love all those roasted vegetables, all those gorgeous swashes
that are in right now. Just makes me think a
harvest and Thanksgiving, honeynut, butternut, acorn. I think a lot
of that stuff is fun. You can make it into
a soup, soup, you can roast it along with some carrots.
It's a relatively easy recipe that goes great with turkey.

Speaker 4 (46:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
No one likes to eat on Thanksgiving more than Tom Brenneman.
And he's not doing football. Turn all that mic out,
Turn the other bike on here, big day, turn his
mike on here, she said, is slowely live in there
with them, she says. If you want to buy the
sides for Thanksgiving, yes, yes, okay. Do you have to
order that ahead of time as well as a turkey,
We recommend it.

Speaker 7 (46:57):
Okay, you can just walk into the store. It whole
variety of It's all about Thanksgiving and our prepared food cases.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
I believe me, I've been there many times.

Speaker 7 (47:06):
But it's smart to r s v P, which is
super easy to do the you can do it online.
You can give us a call. We take orders up
till this Friday.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Until it's Friday. I got her on the phone right now.

Speaker 4 (47:20):
She said, I'm listening to Slonia.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
You don't listen to me.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Why didn't she put on the hotline and she could
do the interview. She'd be much better than the both
of us at this stuff. You might be right, yes,
thank you, sorry to interrupt. All right, you're not interrupting.
The legendary Tom Brendaman right there on the phone, his
wife said, I need answers to side dishes.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
That's a pretty good endorsement. I would say right there
in the household.

Speaker 7 (47:38):
A lot of the times, I always say pick your battles.
You know, you could have your friends and family bring dishes.
I love to cook, but I still get our mashed
potatoes because I can't make them better than we do.
We use beautiful French butter, whole fat cream. We steam
our potatoes, their salt and pepper. I'm not going to
spend the time.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
To potatoes the right way.

Speaker 7 (47:58):
Yeah, our potatoes are delicious, So I spend time doing
some other fun stuff. So we have a lot of
people who are picking and choosing their battles.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (48:06):
And what's what Dorothan and Mark is gonna help with
and what they can do at home?

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Is there such thing is a meat side dish? And
what would that be for Thanksgiving? Mince meat pie is
not meat? No, let's forget what it's nuts?

Speaker 7 (48:18):
Right?

Speaker 9 (48:18):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Is that a chef? What's mince meat?

Speaker 4 (48:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (48:20):
No, it's like vegetables.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Is vegetable? I thought it was not. I don't. I've
had it once a long time ago. I'm like, there's
something I'll never eat again.

Speaker 7 (48:27):
My husband would say, bacon side dish of bacon Thanksgiving?

Speaker 2 (48:32):
What is going on you? I want to know what
Mike's table looks like right now, because it's a oh,
we're gonna get a side dish alipator. Probably I would
think we're gonna have meat and meat and meat.

Speaker 6 (48:43):
Yeah, but uh, I'm gonna I'm gonna have traditional sides
with my turkey every every year. We gotta have and
it's Uh, what's really cool is is that used to
be my mom and dad did Thanksgiving at their house.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (48:58):
Now they come to my house. So that's how it goes.
It's gone for a full circle.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Yeah, it's and that's the rich part about it is families, right,
and as you get older, it's like in then the
younger ones take it over and it's different, but it's
the same, and it's just this tradition and the recipes
seemingly through the families live forever. And that's and that's
why I love Thanksgiving because it really is the essence
of family getting together, and and friends too for that matter.
And I think friends Giving is a big one. Now

(49:26):
you probably see as many people come do in Friendsgivings
as Thanksgiving. Correct we do, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's amazing. Uh,
it will always be turkey though. Turkey will always be
the tradition on Thanksgiving. And make sure again one sixty
five right.

Speaker 7 (49:39):
One sixty five by that thermometer. It's the best insurance
policy you have.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
Really, I think, I think that's the most underrated kitchen tool.
And I have a bunch of you know, chef stuff
in that, but use it, you know, like a thermopen
or a even the wireless ones and bluetooth ones are great.

Speaker 7 (49:56):
So those probe thermometers are awesome. It takes that you're
doing no math, no poundage, no nothing, regardless of what
the recipe says or what the chef says, your turkey
is done.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
And you know that you know this mic too. About
getting the temperature right on meat is like, I have
a it's called a meter thermometer and it's bluetooth and
it literally says, okay, what are you cooking? I'm cooking beef? Okay,
what kind of what cut of beef? Put the cut
in there?

Speaker 4 (50:18):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (50:19):
What temperature? Boom and automatically does it tells you when
it's done and you pull it off. It's amazing. Yeah,
you could.

Speaker 6 (50:24):
You could get those and use them in your your
oven at home or if you have a smoker.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
I get that.

Speaker 4 (50:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (50:29):
Yeah, you get to the smoker too, right, a smoker too,
and you've got a wireless bluetooth that's sitting outside.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Yeah, and I know when it hits temp and you know,
it alerts me and it's pull it off and it
never misses. Then the thermopen is what chefs us. It's
a fold it up. They're pretty cheap too, and it's
a good investment. And you get an instant read thermometer.
It's pretty easy that way. Make sure you're it's food safety.
But it's also who wants to ruin because let's face it,
food coasts are pretty expensive these days. You want you
don't want to screw.

Speaker 7 (50:52):
It up right and the turkeys. If the turkey is
the main course, you need to be right on it.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Yeah, yeah, all right, Well again, congratulations on the opening.
I can't wait to get in there at some point here,
and that's gonna happen probably one of these days, because
I'm doing Thanksgiving this year and get ready to cook.
I'm gonna stop by Dorothy Lane Market and Mason if
you're looking for sides, they're ready to go, or you
do the whole dinner and they're still available to the
fresh turkeys and more. But thanks for coming in today
and it's awfully nice to meet both of you and

(51:18):
appreciate it. It's our pleasure.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
Thankes.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Care all right, Scott Slone Show. We got to get
a news update in just minutes. I'm hungry. Time to
eat here seven hundred WW helping you put the big
P in profession. Here's our career, sirpa. Julie Bouki, Yes
she is, and she's here now. I'm the Scott Sloane
Show on seven hundred W LW. She's off last week

(51:43):
and jumps back in the fray this morning, rested and
ready to go. Julie my dear, how are you?

Speaker 9 (51:49):
I'm fine, how are you?

Speaker 2 (51:50):
What are you laughing about? That wasn't funny. That was
a serious compliment. Rested, that's I don't know, So we
have an issue. This is interesting. These corporate CEOs are
kind of pushing back a little bit. Here Ford Motors
Jim Farley was pretty candid about some criticism. You're set

(52:13):
this up? Tell what is this about? And what did
he say that was so controversial?

Speaker 9 (52:17):
Yeah, So he was talking about their challenge in how
do I how do we continue to produce that we
need to produce when we don't have the talent to
do it? And I thought there was just so many
interesting things that in here. And one is that you
know what we thought, we're looking to find mechanics. We

(52:40):
have five thousand openings and they pay one hundred and
twenty thousand dollars a year, like wow, And so that
we've talked.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
About as many times.

Speaker 9 (52:51):
But I think what's interesting is we still are seeing
this gap. And he said, we can't keep up with demand.
We can't grow unless we have the talent, and we
do not have the talent. We do not have people
who want these shocks. We do not have people who
are ready for these jobs, who have the skills for
these jobs. And when we talk about we're getting all

(53:13):
kinds of mixed messages from all over the place. We
don't have the talent here, we have too much talent here.
But it depends on what jobs you're talking about.

Speaker 4 (53:21):
Interesting.

Speaker 9 (53:21):
I love some of the staffs in this if. I
so fascinating. The first ten months of last year, one
hundred and fourteen thousand dollars, fourteen thousand Americans in their
twenties completed vocational programs compared to one point two four
million who graduated from four year colleges and four hundred
and five thousands who received advanced degree. So you can

(53:44):
see the demand and supply are way way way out of.

Speaker 4 (53:49):
Balance, and there's just not enough.

Speaker 9 (53:51):
At least at this point, there's not enough still buildings,
there are enough people interested, or they're earn enough of
those programs that are out there actively recruiting write people
to prepare them for these jobs. I anticipate that Ford
is either looking at or will look out creating an
the hired training program. They may already have one that
they don't want more people into it.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Well, I know people in like the HVAC industry and
Johnson's supply. They have their own HVAC school that they
pay for and then they eventually as soon as you
graduate in six to eight weeks, you move on and
you've got a job with one of their contractors. And
so many companies are doing that where they're it's like, listen,
we have missed the mark. It's all about college education.

(54:35):
It's the most important thing. And we have to do
our own training and train up young people to go
into these jobs. And one hundred and fourteen thousand Americans
in their twenties completed vocational programs and that is about
ten times less than what we need. And I think
it's set up this way, Julie, because for years and
a year I look at the system the way it is,
in the bias it's built into this. Then this is
the way it is. If you're an educator, all right,

(54:57):
and you want to make more money as a teacher
and eventually in a few years become an administrator, So
we have this whole administrative class in our schools. You
have to go and get another degree and more so
you keep going back to school and then talk about
how much money you don't make because there's so many
teachers because it's a blind demand istion. I'm not grapping
on teachers. We need them, they're so formative. I understand that.

(55:19):
But I'm talking about the economic model here. And so
if that is your steady died of college grad school,
master's degree, doctorate, you think the only way to more
money is more education, and that would be at a university.
And so you tend to be biased and say, well,
if you want to make something in your life, you
got to go to college. And we have misserved the
youth of America now for several generations with that mindset.

(55:41):
And we took shop out of school, and there are
budget cuts, and we took all these things out because
they're expensive, but those were the that's the form of
training that reaches so many people. And I have often
lamented that, you wonder how many kids, how many millions
of young people, their lives didn't go out as planned
or certainly they didn't hit the expectations they have or
never achieved the success it was imminent for them because

(56:03):
they were never exposed to the stuff in the first place.
And not only do they lose, but we lose because
we don't have enough people in the class go up
tremendously in the wait times, and we have a we
still have a need to build things in this country
that haven't been satisfied because of this whole model.

Speaker 9 (56:18):
Yeah, and we have been. This has been going on
for decades and so it's really hard to turn this
around on a dime. But the model, or the belief
that's been really imprinted on us is college is the
way to success.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
College is the only way.

Speaker 9 (56:35):
If you're smart and you bunt and you want success, well,
that depends. It depends what you want to do. If
you want to build bridges, gets, please get a college education.
If you want to be a doctor, test lease. But
we've taken this the idea that it's the only way
to be successful, and we have wrapped it around the
entire education system, from parents to high school to colleges.

(56:59):
And what's now being very much exposed is that the
high school, the high school education system, and a post
high school education system have not kept up with their responsibility,
which is to be responsive to what the market demands.
No wonder having a college education is seen as you know,

(57:21):
if it's an eye roll for a lot of people,
don't care you go to Harvard and major in philosophy.
Good for you, but so what versus having that be ooh,
you're so smart, you've got a career successful. We have
to change our thinking. That has to start with how
we as a parents view what's preparing our kids for success.

(57:43):
Looks like you can't high school done, check off college,
check up box. They're out okay, but bye.

Speaker 4 (57:49):
You know now you're out on your own.

Speaker 9 (57:51):
Now you figure it out. That's why juniors in your basement.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Julie Bouchie our career Shirp on the Sconsolon Show on
seven hundred w LW Truth to Power right there, for sure,
we need more people going to vocational programs. And you
know we have subsidies for college and graduate education, so
you keep going. It's the government's making money. They make
sure that they get their money back because they're federally
subsidized now. And it's a vicious cycle. But it's our

(58:18):
own detriment too. And when you have the CEO of
Ford Motor Company saying, listen, we've got a lift to
bay with a lift and tools and no one to
work in it. We don't have trade schools in this country.
He's right, there's few, and there's more coming online right now,
but there's such a backlog in need that it can't
do it fast enough right now. So if you're a parent,
can consider that maybe your kid isn't going to succeed

(58:41):
in the academic world and it be college. It doesn't
mean they're a failure. It doesn't mean it's reflection and
you as a bad parent, you didn't do your job,
that your kid is not going to be successful in life.
To the contrary, it just maybe they're good at something
different and that would be more tactile and more hands
on that it is academic, and there's nothing wrong with that,
but we have vilified that type of fashion for so long.

(59:01):
It's become part of our DNA here in America, and
if we don't change it, which I think we're trying to,
and I think we're making some inroads here, it's to
our own detriment too, because we were at about certainly
the stems and gifted students and competing with the Chinese
and the rest of the world. We'll have that and
continue to churn out the best and the brightest. But
the thought that somehow if you don't have a four

(59:21):
year degree from somewhere that you are a lesser individual.
That attitude has got to stop because it's wrong and all.
It's punching down, but on top of that, it's really
destroying our country because at the end of the day,
you still need people to fix and build stuff and
God blessed trades people because they go look down on
but their hands are clean. Their hands might be dirty,
but their money's clean. I've seen that phrase used often.

(59:43):
Julie Balki our career ship on the Scotsland Show on
seven hundred ww sheen er team ready to consult you
about maybe a midlife career change or maybe you're starting
out and anywhere in between at Thebalukigroup dot com. That's
b a uk E. It's Julie on the job every
Wednesday morning on the Scotts Slow Show. B Well, we'll
talk next week or not we won't. Actually it's the hob.
I'll be off next Wednesday, so you and Ja have

(01:00:05):
a great Thanksgiving rest up and then we'll be ready
to go in two weeks. How's that?

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
Ye?

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
Well, all right, all the best, Thanks again, Julie Buki
on the job here in the Scott's Loan Show seven
hundred w with them. Yeah, I think get a chance
to check during the break here who should have But
how ticket sales are for a Friday night at pay
corps it's elder and Saint X. Is getting any bigger
than that, I don't think it does. About fifty five
minutes ago, some twenty thousand tickets were put on the

(01:00:30):
market at that website, at the OHSAA website. That's the
only place to get them because simply seven thousand seats
at Mason was not going to get it done for
this and so moving it to pay Corps. I got
to give the Bengals credit because I often criticize the Bengals,
but I'm fair and I will give ups when and
props to people when they do stuff like the Bengals

(01:00:51):
did to get this thing fast tracked. That's great because,
as you know, the taxpayers of Amlin County were all
paying for this in some way, shape or form of
sales taxes. I don't have to tie if you owned
property in Hamilton County how hard it is for you.
But we often talk about how bad that deal was
and how one sided seems things seem to be for
the team, but the fact that they were will to

(01:01:11):
get this done in less than twenty four hours. I
give them full credit for this, and it's awesome. We
need more of this stuff because it is a county
owned facility and when you have two teams like this
looking for a big venue. I'm glad that the Bengal
stepped up and said, let's get this done. We're excited
for We're actually excited for this, and we're going to
work really hard behind the scenes to accommodate the students
to student athletes from elder and say nex which is

(01:01:33):
you want to hear. And so I'm not sure our
ticket sales are. I'm to imagine those twenty thousand go
pretty quickly. But I know the weather's not going to
be supportive. But you know what, You put a garbage
bag on, a poncho, some rain gear and you sit
out and you're tough enough. Because the players are going
to have the time of their life. And that's the
coolest part about this is watching these young men get
to play on an NFL field. That's something they can

(01:01:55):
remember the regardless of the outcome. That's something you're going
to remember the rest of your life. And so that's
going on right now. First part of the show. I
had Tom Gamble on. Yes, that Tom Gambler, Boy Gamble,
formerly the two Angry Guy CEO of In Game Sports
All the commissioner by the way of the GCL South,
that'd be Elder and st X and super excited to
have this. But we're talking about the NIL stuff that's
going to be settled this week as we're talking Ohio

(01:02:18):
school principles. As members of the Ohio High School Athletic Association,
they're voting right now. They're taking a poll a straw pole,
if you will, of principles on NIL. As you may recall,
in twenty twenty two, they said, no, we're not doing this,
we shouldn't pay student athletes. Along came a young man

(01:02:39):
out of Dayton that changed this whole thing, by the
name of Jamior Brown. He's only, by the way, as
a sophomore, he only put up one thousand yards receiving
and fifteen touchdowns. That's all. He's already committed to the
Ohio State University for twenty twenty seven. Maybe because he
couldn't get to UC, I'm not quite sure, but that
kind of forced our hand at this thing. I don't know,
I look at college I like, to me, if you're

(01:03:01):
a teenager, should you keep your amateur status for some
sort of I don't know, kind of remnant of years past,
the quaintness of being Well, you're a student athlete, and
it's just it's just so pure.

Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Well, everyone around you, the schools, the coaches, the trainers,
the booster, everyone makes money off of that performance on
the field. And so to me, it is simply an
American to not allow someone to use their name, image
and likeness to enrich themselves. And well, they're amateur status

(01:03:36):
in the administrators, and that's something the ministrators say, you know,
it should be educational, it should be Well then okay, well,
why are we hiring coaches like at one hundred thousand
dollars a year for high school? Why are media companies
making money off this? Why are apparel brands working money office.
I'm watching kids with under armored jerseys, Nike with Adidas, right,
your high school kid and the schools get money for that,

(01:03:58):
the eighties getting everyone's making money off them except the
person who's performing. And it's certainly it's an uncomfortable space
between education and commercial enterprise. But there's a contradiction there,
and this is really folks that jar way open right now.
And the responses from the principled principles, it's it's like

(01:04:19):
damage controls what it is. It's just their arguments make
no sense whatsoever. And one of them was about, well,
you know, it's one of the being a musician. You know,
these are like, well, okay, you could be a musician
and perform and still yeah, but it's like a weird

(01:04:39):
argument that that's their justifications why athletes can etern money
like musicians are artists or actors in high school. It's
they argument undermines that that position. If I'm talented and
can go being a band and make money and go
to school, I can probably quit school. But I can
go do that, Like how is this any different? And
the aspect that you're not to be able to you know,

(01:05:01):
use the image of the school or the school like
I don't know, that seems to hurt the school. So
hopefully they sort this thing out. And because we're like
one of six states now that are left that don't
have a plan, and you gotta have a plan otherwise
the market will figure it out for you, and that's
not good. We'll go to a news update very latest
weather is obviously concern too, a little bit of break
from the rain, but that's coming back in quick fashion.

(01:05:22):
Jeff Kramerding is here next, speaking of the Bengals. This
banks project is going on. This, this is where the
city wants to move forward like yesterday, on finishing the banks,
and the county is saying, we don't have the budget,
the buildings are too tall, and a ferris wheel will
disparage the Freedom Center. What this is the problem we

(01:05:44):
have city and county government get around. Honestly, they get
along like Israel and Hamas. For God's sakes, figure it out.
Seven hundred WW Cincinnati don't want to be got slowed down.
Seven hundred WLW. We have a plan after twenty years.
We've got a plan to finish the banks in the

(01:06:05):
upwards of seven hundred and fifty to eight hundred million
dollars in redevelopment of the five remaining lots of the
banks over the next fifteen years. So if you're a
big fan of those concrete pillars that are sitting there,
those peers as we call them, guess what they're going
to get covered And over the next fifteen years we'll
see it's gonna be luxury and market rate residential plus
retail hotel, maybe some office space in there. But what's

(01:06:27):
interesting is the county's reaction to this versus the cities
reaction to this. And joining the show this morning is
council Member jeff Cramerton, who sits on the infrastructure and
building and committees like that, so the appropriate guy to
talk to in a situation like this. Jeffrey, welcome, How are.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
You very well? It's great to be here.

Speaker 4 (01:06:45):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
Before we begin, I know that you are passionately ready
for Friday night at not the high school football field
at Mason, home of the Commets, but rather Paycorp home
of the Bengals. Because you're a proud set You're a
proud St X guy, right.

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
No, sir, I am a proud elder pH Yeah, pride
of Prate till the pride of Prate still.

Speaker 4 (01:07:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
But don't don't you ever a Do you have a
nephew that plays for Saint X.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
Yeah, so you've divided loyalties of Crambering family. We will
be there utting on the Elder Panthers to victory, but
all cheering for my nephew and Jus and Andrew who's
the starting left tackle between ex bombers.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
Now, you're not gonna wear one of those tire jerseys.
It's half Saint X half the Elder, are you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
I will not be doing that. I'll be wearing my
I'll be wearing my. My purple had a boy.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
A boy had a boy. And hopefully the trader has
not that great a game, but an okay game anyway, Uh, creamy,
And let's get into this. It's been twenty years since
we've got this. We're finally now talking about the next
fifteen years. I that just makes my head hurt, considering
the gift that we had, which are the two stadia
downtown and all that space in order to get people

(01:08:01):
down there. And this thing has been plotting along and
the reason is well, one of the reasons, of course,
is the city and the county. And I'll point this
out before get to the details of what this buildout
is going to be. Hamlet County Commissioner Lisia Rees said,
we're kind of broke right now. Denise treet Hoouse concerns
over the height of this thing, and other commissioners just
don't see it even on the radar right now. Meanwhile,

(01:08:22):
those of you a council want to move forward like
yesterday on this project. So the time and the money
council is on it. Commissioners don't want this. You guys
are excited there now. Can you explain and maybe help
us understand the difference and enthusiasm between the county and
the city.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
Yeah, I mean, I really can't speak for the County commission.
I don't know why. There is no answer you. The
city of Cincinnati is growing. We're excited about that. We're
leading the nation and concuting office buildings, residential. There's a
tremendous demand. I mean, we've talked about this. We know
that new bill. It is necessary to meet the demand

(01:09:01):
for downtown. Thanks is a great place to do it.
So we're growing the city, we're growing the economy. This
council is bullish on it. We want to get done.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
The height of this thing, it'd be up to twenty
four stories to make it financially viable. But Denie Street
House Commissioned President worries about blocking daylight. And your colleague
and our good friend on the show, Seth Walsh, wants
even taller buildings. Said, well, let's let's you know, we're
a downtown. It's a big city. Let's scrape the sky here,
you know, and now we're talking it feels almost like

(01:09:32):
what like they are in the Hyde Park discussion all
over again here.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
Yeah, it just feel like that. Definitely some similar things.
I mean, the more people the better, especially for an
entertainment district like the Bank, so you have more people
in there to fuel the restaurants, to fuel the retail.
You know, we need more people. A couple of the
buildings are most for twenty four stories. Most are under eleven.
So to me, this is not very controversial. We need

(01:10:00):
to get moving forward in the critical discussions over the
next couple of weeks or you know, how are we
going to fund this? So I hope we can find
a situation where we can partner with the county and
to the extent that this is not a priority for them,
you know, have the city run with it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
Here's the shot that's gonna hurt. This is gonna hurt
because we're talking about some luxury housing up there as
well as market rate. Nothing about affordable housing. We'll get
to that in just a second. But essentially someone's going
to go, look, why are we giving taxpayer money to
subsidize luxury housing. Is that a fair question?

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
Yeah, I mean, as I said, there's a demand for downpath,
but building a place like the Banks, you know, is
going to take some subsidies. That a tax abatement, is
that the use of our down tip funds which we
use for development. You know, what does that look like?
Those details are critically important. As I pointed out, that
was not part of the conversation yesterday. We were just

(01:10:57):
talking about planning and the vision. The money. He is
always important to make these things happen. That's the critical
conversation that's going to happen right now.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Where's the affordable housing in US?

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
That from my perspective, it's always supplying demand. We need
more house. We don't have enough thousands because we need
to build housing. If we have enough housing, the market
will take care of itself. So you know, I mean,
especially you're talking about rent restrictions which some people are
talking about, is you know, a restricting the amount of
rent that makes developments like this harder and it makes

(01:11:30):
more subside from the taxpayer. So market rates right here,
general market rates we're talking about in the city. We
just need to build more housing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
Yeah, I mean if you live in a three hundred
thousand dollars house and you're doing while you're like, well,
you know, now we can do our dream house and
maybe you move into a one or two million dollar
place like this and that, But that frees up that
three hundred thousand dollars unit for someone else to get
in and realize their dream. That's how the system works.
And I understand we need way more affordable housing than
we have already in the urban areas, but it doesn't

(01:12:01):
make sense to me to now have a luxury and
market rate and market rates are pretty high for this
area downtown. I mean, why would you charge somebody six
hundred dollars a month to have the view of the
river that people willing to pay a couple million dollars
a art. It doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
Yeah, And that's the dynamic that we're seen throughout the city.
You know, there's you know, several there's a lot of
very hot nabors and people are trying to get into them.
They cancer they're pushing people out, and it's right, it's
you know, creating high sale prices, higher rents the neighborhoods
surrounding that. So that's why we need more housing throughout
the city.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
Yeah, yeah, and the twenty four stories doesn't seem that
tall quite honestly, considering I mean, yeah, we built the
great American Insurance Tower with the uh you know, I mean,
and I don't remember anyone bitching about that being too hot.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
Looks great, That's exactly right. We've got a great park
down there. You know, We've got Central Park in New York,
Grant Park in Chicago, alter by very tall buildings. It's
not aesthetic year of those great parts.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
I won't hurt are either, well, right, So we have
a war going on here between the county and the city.
What else is new? Jeff Kramerding is on the show
this morning, representing the City of Cincinnati. Wants to move
forward quickly soon and build it bigger and bigger than
ever before, bigger and better than ever before, with the
final phase of the banks over the next fifteen years,
Whereas Hamlin County commissioners, all three of them, are reluctant

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to move forward, and this for various reasons. One of them, though,
and this is a real serious question here, is you
have the Central Riverfront garage there and they're estimating that's
about thirty million dollars in costs to rebuild us to
redo this, and it is including the development cost. So
the county's got a review whether they can fund that.

(01:13:49):
But if you don't have garage infrastructure down there, doesn't
this whole thing fall apart.

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
Yeah, you absolutely need to build the garage to build
the development on top of it. So in the garages
are also using a lot of revenue. The more development
we have down there, the more revenue the garages and velved.
So it's a complex puzzle, but you know it's one
that asks me solved to get this movement.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
Well, they're saying they don't have the money.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
Well, you know, budgets are tied everywhere. I talked Abo
about the city's budget many times and concerns about that.
The long term solution is growth, more people paying earning stacks,
more people think health stacks. So we're focusing on how
to grow of the city is important. It said that
the banks has always been a critical portion of this

(01:14:37):
region's gross for twenty five years now and we're still
talking about we're still in the planning stage is a
lot of these lots. So that's very frustrating and we
need to move forward.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
One of the hang ups too. And this is kind
of minor. I think it's I don't know, it's kind
of picky you and myself. But Alas Shares, who's on
the show the other day, said that she's not happy
with that ferris wheel or proposing put a permanent ferris
wheel downtown in front of the right behind the National
Underground Railroad Freedom Center, so where they sing the Queen
City sign is that to get pulled out and you

(01:15:08):
put a ferris wheel there, And she says that's disrespectful.
I don't know. That seems like that seems like a
stretch to me. You know, there's plenty of stuff around that.
There's bars, there's restaurants, you have street vessels and the like.
I understand the significance of that museum, but that ferris
wheel is pretty far away.

Speaker 4 (01:15:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
I like the ferris wheel. I like attractions. I like
things that are going to you know, bring families, your
families time of a bank. So yeah, I like the
ferris wheel. I don't be a problem with location. It
seems like it was successful and we had the test pilot,
so I have no problem with that being part of

(01:15:45):
this equation. And you know, I think other attractions as
well would be great.

Speaker 4 (01:15:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
And I think as a parent, if you bring your
kid to the National Underground Railroad Free Center, the Freedom
Center in the Railroad Museum, I think it's one of
the things we were a kid. You don't want to
go because you think it's stupid because you're a kid
and you don't realize the significance of this and what
you're seeing, especially if you're a person of color, it
means a lot more. But at the same time, you go, hey, listen,
you know what if you don't act like a fool

(01:16:10):
inside the museum and act right, well, well you can
ride the Ferris wheil when you're done. Seems like a
good a good carrot to dangle in front of kids
that want.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
To do that, right, got the hair cell down there,
all right, Right, that's a great track.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
Well that's where you want if you want them next year.
And it's across the street too, So I think now
we're just looking for stuff to reasons to go. I
don't like it. Jeff kramerding As far as this build
out goes, it's going to be a high rise residential retail.
The parking thing's got to sort that out. Maybe office
in there as well too. But the hotel element. Uh,
there's concerns saying now we have too many hotels. Is

(01:16:45):
that true?

Speaker 3 (01:16:47):
Yeah, no, we are. We've built a tremendous number of hotels.
That's one I've I always ask our experts. I've asked
a three c DC many times and continue to have
to get in. I am told and presumably these hotels
are building these that the need is still there. So
I think that's a great sign for how robust development

(01:17:08):
and how much vibrancy is is around downtown. So, yes,
we have built a lot. I have always concerns we
don't want overbuild and have vacant hotels, but we're not
seeing that in the fact that these hotels are so
interested it's important. And of course that location really does
make sense right between the two stadiums. You know, we're

(01:17:29):
competing with other cities for the Behaflis Pittsburgh. You know
there's people from out the region. We want to draw
them in for the Reds and banking games. But also
you know a team and you know people go on
the road to watch their team and they decide which
to say they want to go to. And having a
hotel right there by the state. Let's get to Cincinnati
for a weekend and watch the Colts or whatever the
team is. So that's great we get from out of town.

Speaker 4 (01:17:51):
That's just.

Speaker 3 (01:17:54):
Straight money in the banks of the City of Cincinnati
and Hamilton County.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
Yeah, I mean, the market dictates, if you need to
tell or not. I always hate when politicians, especially decide
what the market needs. Now, the market needs what it needs.
You know, we have a historic building across from you know,
the Cincinnati Hotel, for example, and you know that was
beautiful back in the day when it was designed. But
it's been an I store for a long time and
they're finally redoing it and going to make it something else.

(01:18:18):
So it's not like these projects when they've surpassed their
useful life, don't get converted into something else. It's downtown space.
It's certainly not going to happen overnight. The other part
of this, too is I was reading something that they
did one of those cost benefit analysis or the economic
impact from the banks has been about two billion dollars
over the year. But I heard that one Oh okay,

(01:18:39):
well two billion dollars. That's a great economic impact. But
on the other side of your mouth, you're going, well,
it's been they've been treading water for like twenty years,
and now we need hundreds of millions of dollars in
public subsidy to finish this thing. We've got to give
some subsidy to the luxury condo and apartment owners over there,
and the market rate housing and everything else. And so

(01:19:00):
what's the actual return on investmers for taxpayers? Are we
are we subsidizing private developers and team owners or is
this generally the best practice? I mean, if if there's
a two billion dollar economic impact, how could we be
treading water for twenty years?

Speaker 3 (01:19:13):
Yeah, when it comes to the the financials, now we're
going to build, that's critical. And again you know we
were not we were not in those details yesterday. I
think over the next couple of weeks and months that's
going to be critically important. And what types of incentives
are we talking I mean, are we talking about, uh,
the tax debatement for sex number of years? Are we
talking about from sort of TIFFs, the development back into

(01:19:35):
the tanks, tun from more developments? The financial details? Uh
was not. We're not there yesterday. That something you know,
I questioned, and and to me, that's the critical part
of it, and we talked about building the partnership with
the county. Uh, those details and what that structure is
going to look like and how are we at this
moving is important. So uh, that was not yesterday. Yesterday

(01:19:59):
was about you know, Banning and the Vision Council. We're
very excitted about it, but you know, now it's time
to get down to work and hammered out coming over
with the deal that is beneficial to the city and taxpayers.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
And then now all point out too. It took twenty
years because of that awful Bengals lease we had wouldn't
allow us to build anything over the size of a
bag house or crying out loud, and finally we got
that blown up and move in the right direction, which
is why now you have twenty years ago you could
add all this stuff down there, and it's been sitting
vacant and empty, and it looks ridiculous when you go
through the parking lot down there in the garage and
see all these concrete pillars and piers sticking out of

(01:20:33):
the ground. It's just you look, you look at it
and you go, this doesn't make any sense because it's
not like it was five it's been two decades.

Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
Yeah, it's unfortunate that we keep coming back to that
sales tax increase, because yeah, there was the terms of
the lease, but when voters passed that in nineteen ninety six,
they were, from my perspective, promise, you know, two stadiums
in an entertainment district in a marina and uh, you
know when when that when the tax came out, there

(01:21:01):
was you know, barely enough to stay for the stadium. So,
I mean taxpayers were frustrated. They thought that was that
that was the solution, and that was not been I think,
I know that's been part of the kind of the
company financial woes, and that's part of where we're at
twenty five years later. But you know that was twenty
five years ago. We're in the situation that we're in,

(01:21:22):
and we move forward.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
Yeah, finally, Jeff Kramer ding I look at this and go, well, okay,
eight hundred million dollar bills. I've got a lot going
on as a final piece of the puzzle for the banks,
and hopefully it just puts everything over the top here.
But the timeline to get this thing approved for council
anyway and totally excludes what's going on with the county
as you're trying to get this thing together and when

(01:21:44):
twenty twenty seven, So just a couple of months and
vote on the zoning changes and everything else. That's a
pretty fast and aggressive timeline.

Speaker 3 (01:21:52):
Yeah, that's a thing.

Speaker 4 (01:21:53):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:21:54):
We've got our we've got some tools that are always
available towards tax debatment. So our budget has to be
done spring and summer. So if we're talking about a
financialist from the city, that's our timeline. So I reminded
everything out that yesterday. That's the reason I said that
the hard work has to begin as soon if we're

(01:22:14):
gonna get this done.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
Jeff Primating on the show this morning on seven hundred
double that it sounds like a hard to tell, but
a majority of council wants to move forward on this one,
and you're gonna butt heads with the county commissioners said,
we're broke and it's not a priority. So we'll see
how this works out. Hopefully we get this thing done
in short time. Is there going to be negotiations within
the county and the city on this Are they happening now?

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
Yes. The The next step, which we did talk about
yesterday was meetings between the county administration and the city administration.
I think that's going to begin next week or the
week after and really talk about, you know what this
structure looks like, ideally would be looking at, you know,
sort of a ad ominibus agreement. You know what the
county's going to pay for and what the sea's gonna
pay for, and do it across the state. You know,

(01:23:00):
that's the stretch that you're talking about. You that there
is lots of which, lots of the priority, Which was
that you do first? And what are those agree it's
going to look like. I think that's where we're rather
the next couple of weeks. And that's given me the
difficult part.

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
All right, Well, hopefully we can get moving forward here,
find the money and get this thing done. Ferris Wheels,
it's too high, it's too deep, but enough excuses. It's unsightly,
and it gives us a bad look and has been
giving us a bad look for twenty years. Get this
damn thing done. Jeff, all the best, Thanks again, and
good luck tomorrow Friday. I guess I should say it
is only Wednesday for fect. I want the weekend now,

(01:23:33):
damn it be well. Thanks buddy, appreciate it. Got a
news update and more to follow afterwards. Here on seven
hundred WW. And that's Sarah least snort report on the
way next seven hundred WW. All right, Sarah's here. I'm

(01:23:58):
not expecting much to day. She's tired of crabby and
crampy and everything else.

Speaker 4 (01:24:02):
How you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
How did you know about my crampiness? I'm actually in
a really good mood today.

Speaker 4 (01:24:08):
You are?

Speaker 1 (01:24:08):
Are you just a couple of days away until I'm
offer an entire week from h Look at you? One
whole week of vacation coming up, baby, we're counting it down.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
Are you going to stay off Instagram for a week?

Speaker 1 (01:24:19):
Hell no, We're not going out far and just got
to keep creating exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:24:25):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
I love me my social media. Do we want to
start with high school football or professional? I got big
news in both.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
Well, let's start with a high school one, because that's
the first and foremost. Here with a snort report with
Sarah Elise. You're on seven hundred WOWS Social Media v
Sports and we have Elder Saint X at pay Corps. Friday,
I think twenty thousand tickets went on sale early. They're
all gone how exciting was that? Could they fill it
up with sixty five k I think they're just I

(01:24:55):
don't know why they decided twenty to cap it, but.

Speaker 1 (01:24:58):
Maybe and this is what I I'm guessing here, volunteer
help for the concessions that could be it. That is
a big stadium to fill up for.

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
It would have been cool because I think you could
filled you got football.

Speaker 1 (01:25:11):
There the next day and night. So yeah, I think
they're going to be setting up early the next day
for the ten am lives.

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
Think as you're playing for sane x or Elder and
you're on the field, how cool is that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
Yeah, I'm so excited for these kids, their families, the schools,
are city. I feel like this is a big win
all around for really everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
And the other thing is, you know, this is easily
going to be the best football played there since Week
two exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
At least we'll see some winning Cincinnati. But what a
big weekend for Cincinnati sports though. Man, we got all
kind of stuff going on. There's so much to get Yeah.
So Katie Blackburn is saying that every effort with this
game on Friday is going to be made to make
sure this is a wonderful experience for students, athletes, their families,

(01:26:01):
the schools, and the broader community. I mean, this is
going to bring in so many people. And she goes
on to say the Bengals are thinking everyone for their
outstanding efforts across the board, so good luck to both tell.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
I was honestly, I gotta give them credit because you
haveten to hammer them. But I was honestly surprised at
how quickly the Bengals came around said yeah, let's do
very quick. It's very cool.

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
I feel like this was a talk for This was
a conversation for what twenty four hours.

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
In no way, they can't act that fast on anything,
because they did.

Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
It was originally going to be played in Mason with
seven thousand people. Yeah, and everybody missed out. So here
we go, paycord to the rescue and Friday night it
is holy Grail says they're going to be showing the
game so in case you can't make it to the stadium,
they're going to open their doors for that. And I
believe we're going to have this game on Fox Sports
thirteen sixty. Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
I believe.

Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
So there you go. This all came together so quick.
I love it. And then do you know where they
looking for volunteers to help out with concessions.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
They're probably okay with with the boosters from both sides
people to do that, I think, so yeah, I don't know, yeah,
but it's going to go on and whether it's not
looking good, but hey, you're planning a Paycorns.

Speaker 1 (01:27:02):
You're you're these kids are gonna love it rain or
shine playing at Paycor's gonna be so cool coming out
of that tunnel. And they say they're gonna be parking
easy to ten bucks for parking down there. So if
you're worried about the high pricing, if way too much
for westsiders, ten dollars Now I don't know which garage
is the are gonna be ten dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
I don't know if it's for renting a bus.

Speaker 1 (01:27:23):
Yeah, how that's all going to work out. But they're
saying ten dollars parking, so the bus good. That's the report.
Also trending in high school football, TAFT being blamed for
some damage at the Indian Hill locker room. This was
trending last night, it's trending this morning. Uh, they're being
accused of damaging the walls from the game lost Friday,

(01:27:46):
when Taft did not win that one against Indian Hill.

Speaker 3 (01:27:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
I saw some of the footage and it's it's not
just a couple holes in the drivable. I mean they
literally look like they're doing it. Looked like property brothers
are coming in to do a remodel.

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
So Indian Hill is saying that Taft caused this damage. However,
last night doing a deep dive into this whole thing
because I am obsessed with this story. I'm so obsessed.

Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
You have no idea, Senior investigative sports reporter Sarah Lee.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
Literally, I'm so invested and I want to know everything.
There was a coach weighing in and he said, hey,
week six, we were there, the damage was already there.
He goes, I'm a coach. We were there weeks Yeah.
So it's like, why has this just been sitting one
if that is the case. Also, there is a video
trending online of these kids from Taft coming into the

(01:28:34):
locker room about five forty on that Friday night. They've
got their backpacks and they're all, like, you know, in
their warm up gear. They're not even in their football
unieds yet.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
The sledgehammers, not that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:45):
And you can see them kind of like walking into
the visitor locker room space and in the background or
the damaged walls. Really, the damaged walls behind.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
This should be pretty easy to corroborate since there are
no what how many games between week six and now
that someone go, yeah, we're in that locker rooms.

Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
This should be solved very quickly by the end of
the day, I hope.

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
So it would be seems easy to produce evidence to find.

Speaker 1 (01:29:09):
Out last night this took up my whole feet and
Taft parents are speaking out there, like, look, my son
plays there. He told us that this damage was there
when they showed up. Really, uh huh, So it's it's
not like you don't go in the locker room and
clean it. They would know the damage right away. Why
would they wait until Taft was there too?

Speaker 9 (01:29:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:29:26):
Why would they wait until Tuesday to speak out about
something that allegedly happened on Friday when the two teams
played each other at Indian Hill.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
Interesting, but I'm again I'm so upsetsed. Weird story. It's
such a weird story because I thought, okay, well.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
Well, and it's definitely gotten deep because this.

Speaker 2 (01:29:40):
Taft loss was controversial, fumble goal I scored very much
pissed off and it fits a timeline and it's a
bad election.

Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
On Taft, is you know, with what Indian Hill is
saying that they did. So parents are like, absolutely not,
that's not what happened. My son is telling me that
the damage was already there. And if you see the
social media video, it's trending everywhere all of our Facebook, X,
Instagram and and now the news articles are picking it up.
It's you see the wall, the damaged walls behind the kids.

(01:30:08):
So I stand with Taft on this one as of
right now, that's how I stand with. I stand with
tot how's my support?

Speaker 2 (01:30:15):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
Well, based off of what parents are saying, what the
coaches are saying, what the social media video shows, right,
it shows that Taft is innocent.

Speaker 2 (01:30:23):
So if Taff I'm guilty and they proclaim innocence here,
then that's an even bigger.

Speaker 1 (01:30:28):
We're going to have another, uh you know conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
Many people want to go play at Taft because of
what happens in the extra early right, and now if
they're if they do this on the road, how many
teams are going to want to play taft.

Speaker 1 (01:30:41):
Based off of what I saw, it looks like they're
innocent in this situation.

Speaker 2 (01:30:44):
But you better hope that's the case. If not that,
I truly hope it's the case. I want to believe
Indian he'll make that. It doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 1 (01:30:51):
And also like who did this?

Speaker 2 (01:30:52):
Who caused the damage to the law and in what
twelve weeks?

Speaker 1 (01:30:55):
Yes, but yeah, especially if your coach is speaking out
like okay, we were there week six and it was
already it was already like yeah, which they played?

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
Which did they?

Speaker 4 (01:31:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:31:05):
Again? This should be very easy to solve. And people
are asking for cameras from the locker room. It's like, well,
you can't have that up there because dudes are you know,
changing getting into their uniform, so you can't do that.
All right, But this looked like it was just a
taking off of a cell phone, like the guys coming
in and it just the time stamp on It was
five forty three pm.

Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
So slowly with Keith Morrison in the start report this
morning here at.

Speaker 1 (01:31:25):
Seven, Like I said, I was watching Dancing with the
Stars last night, but this grabbed my attention so quick.
I'm like, I have no idea what's going on dancing
with the stars, because now I'm very much focused on
these two teams right here, and what the drama is.

Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
There no dust on the hands of the player? Wooh
so oh that peske crowbar? All right? What else is
going on?

Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
Also trending with our Cincinnati Bengals. Yesterday, no practice. They're
getting back to it today, but they did announce that
I Show Speed is the ruler of the jungle for
this Sunday when they host the Patriots, the hottest team
in football.

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
I also had to look up this guy because I
was like, Iso Speed, what is show See gamer?

Speaker 1 (01:32:06):
He's a gamer. He's got forty four million followers on TikTok.

Speaker 2 (01:32:10):
I knew that, you didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:32:11):
He's from Cincinnati, he's only twenty years old, graduated from
Purcell Marion and people love this guy. But can he tackle?
Can he suit up?

Speaker 2 (01:32:21):
All you have to do is sit in the throne.
That's all you gotta do.

Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
So he's going to be getting everyone hyped up before
that game. Okay, cool, he's very well loved. I did
some stocking this morning. I'm like, yeah, he's a cool dude,
so good good for him. Someone who will not be
there on Sunday Jamar Chase because his suspension appeal was denied.

Speaker 2 (01:32:40):
We saw that coming.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
The proof is in the footage.

Speaker 2 (01:32:42):
I said, a game, a game, it's a game, but
he denied it. What about that conspiracy?

Speaker 1 (01:32:47):
Well, remember when they asked him. They're like, okay, well
did you spit on Jalen Ramsey or not? He goes, no, no, no,
I'll never spit. I ain't spent on nobody. That's what
he said. I ain't spent on no flying We saw
the spit. FO nineteen was like, here's the spit.

Speaker 2 (01:33:01):
One magic loogie in that one magic for another player.
I don't think there are a second angle on it.
We only had the one angle. Was there a second spinner?
Grassy Chuck Nol, what about it?

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
This is why I appreciate that you appreciate Seinfeld, but
I also with everybody. I had to pause the video,
I had to zoom in, and I'm taking screenshots and
I'm like, it's really hard to see the spit, but
the spit is there.

Speaker 3 (01:33:25):
So there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:33:25):
There definitely a spit. There's something flying there.

Speaker 1 (01:33:27):
And he's also not going to be getting his weekly
paycheck of a cool four hundred and forty eight thousand bucks.

Speaker 5 (01:33:33):
So you're saying, Tony, I know that's pretty close to
what you get from my heart. So so you're saying that,
no Burrow, no, no Jamar. So you're saying, there's a chance.

Speaker 1 (01:33:43):
So could you imagine the hottest team in football is
coming to Cincinnati?

Speaker 3 (01:33:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:33:51):
No, Trey Hendrickson, no, Shamar Stewart, No, no Jamar Chase,
no Joe Burrow. Who else are we missing?

Speaker 4 (01:34:00):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:34:00):
Cam Taylor Britt We just found out he's having season
ending foot surgery. Thank god, I know I'm missing a
bunch of others. I did just say Shamar Stewart, doesn't.

Speaker 5 (01:34:09):
Stewart Shamar Stewart, Well, I mean guys that can actually
having the worst ever guys, We don't you know if
you're Shamar Stewart or what.

Speaker 1 (01:34:19):
Stone said?

Speaker 4 (01:34:20):
This one out?

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
We just play like four guys the other and these.

Speaker 1 (01:34:26):
Guys from SEXT stick around.

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
They're left handed. How's that we'll make it fair and
only win by by two scores? There, So Zach.

Speaker 1 (01:34:34):
Taylor is defending his guide Jamar Chase. He goes, look,
making one mistake doesn't disregard everything. The cover up, That's
what I was talking about the other day, and he goes, look,
it's one thing to do it. Yeah, that it's a
bad thing. He goes, but why did you lie about it?
Especially when there are cameras that don't I'm sorry at
Akrocer Stadium.

Speaker 2 (01:34:55):
So anyway, gate continues, So Lord sing over the Bengals.
The only thing that Bengals can win Sunday's a coin toss.
That's about it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
We'll see how that goes.

Speaker 2 (01:35:06):
I watch him come out and rull New England. We
never know.

Speaker 1 (01:35:09):
Every week is a surprise.

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
I need a lot of help as a Bills fan.

Speaker 1 (01:35:12):
I'm sure I lot of help and help.

Speaker 2 (01:35:15):
But no, they're not need the Bills to help. I
need our Bengals to well.

Speaker 1 (01:35:21):
Things are looking good for joke last week seven on
seven's this week eleven on eleven's boy. Just like that,
all of a sudden, you go, will we see him
on Thanksgiving Night against Lamar Jackson? The no and the Ravens.
Probably not. Don't get your hopes up. Likely going to
be Joe Flacco as long as his thrown shoulders. Okay,
he's been kind of iffy too.

Speaker 2 (01:35:39):
When you just shut him down. At this point, I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:35:43):
I don't know what to do.

Speaker 2 (01:35:44):
I know he wants to play, but if the future
windows still open, why would you risk.

Speaker 1 (01:35:49):
That it could get so much worse to for this guy?
So maybe we'll see Jake Brown next week.

Speaker 2 (01:35:55):
Like the playoffs, the teams blocked the playoffs and they
rest everybody in the last week or two, why not
do that?

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
Yeah, but yeah, it's a big weekend. And then of
course FC Cincinnati is finally back after two weeks off,
hosting Miami five o'clock at TQL. They're telling everybody to
wear blue. This is going to be big. It's a
one or done. You move you win, you move on.

Speaker 2 (01:36:16):
That's it. That's it's one. That's I'll tell you what.

Speaker 1 (01:36:19):
That's get this done against Lio Messi.

Speaker 2 (01:36:22):
Well, they got the monkey out the back with Columbus.
That was big.

Speaker 1 (01:36:25):
Now they got their confidence going and they're like, look
we can we can beat them. So let's keep going,
let's keep rolling.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
Get Messy in there. Yeah, a little snow might help.

Speaker 1 (01:36:33):
Sunday could be a really great day for this city.
Go to and two. Yeah, eat the Patriots and Miami.

Speaker 3 (01:36:39):
Would be good.

Speaker 2 (01:36:39):
That'd be good. They got their number before It's not
like Cincinnati hasn't beaten them, so I believe that they
can get this even with MESSI let's see what goes on.
And they got a little confident, little swag going in
this thing. It's going to be packed.

Speaker 1 (01:36:49):
This is pretty cool. Yeah, gonna be a nice weekend too.

Speaker 2 (01:36:53):
We need some one of our teams to win here. Yes,
the Bearcats got b YU coming in. Yeah, big night
on a front day night, do in heritage. I mean
you got football night on Saturday night. Yeah, there's so
much going on top the bottom. The best sports events
in the city. Number one is the start at the bottom. Bengals.
Bengals at the bottom.

Speaker 1 (01:37:13):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
And what what's above them?

Speaker 1 (01:37:16):
I don't know. I put f C Cincinnati at the top.
At the top, f C Cincinnati is they're rolling. They're
the best situation right now.

Speaker 2 (01:37:24):
What about Older Saint X. That's a big event that
made the biggest sports event of the weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:37:30):
Do you think so? Do you think they'll have a
bigger attendance a.

Speaker 2 (01:37:32):
Lot of Well than no, But I think I think
on Friday night, FIDA Night game is going to be
the big event between.

Speaker 1 (01:37:40):
Them and FCC. They're going to bring the most positive
vibes this weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:37:44):
UC is up there, but you know, coming off now
loss again, so now they got a street going and
that's not good.

Speaker 1 (01:37:52):
The Cincinnati Cyclones set a record yesterday for their kids game.
I thought this was really cool. I don't know if
you saw this, but yesterday at ten thirty in the morning,
child Labors, so a bunch of kids from all over
the tri state attended. Twelve thousand, six hundred and eighty
seven was the attendance at the arena yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:38:12):
Twelve eight sixty seven sixty Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:38:16):
They said it's the second largest attended game on a
weekday in Cyclones history. How cool is that all the
kids got a lesson in hockey?

Speaker 2 (01:38:24):
You don't have to go to school.

Speaker 9 (01:38:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:38:26):
Can you imagine They're all like, I'll go, I'll go.

Speaker 2 (01:38:28):
All this focus with pund of the test and the
test you got to show up and go discos. We're
gonna watch a.

Speaker 1 (01:38:32):
Hockey game, right And there was no damage to the
locker round.

Speaker 2 (01:38:35):
No one beat that up. That is going to be
the story next week now that you've uncovered it here again.

Speaker 1 (01:38:41):
I'm so invested. As soon as you hear something let
me know in case I'm like not on social media
for a moment.

Speaker 4 (01:38:46):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (01:38:46):
When it comes to exposing the truth, Sarah LEAs is here.

Speaker 1 (01:38:49):
I stand with to try.

Speaker 2 (01:38:52):
Exposing yourself here on the show. The proof is in
the social media fans handle this. Oh stop, Sarah back
on the Kid Chris Show tomorrow. I think that was insulting.
Why do you hear?

Speaker 3 (01:39:04):
Hear?

Speaker 2 (01:39:04):
And Chris Chris Morning need to break coming up next?
Oh the girl needs it right now. All right, let's
go big sports weekend ahead. Let's not screw it up,
shall we. Scott Sloan show on this Wednesday morning. Uh,
we've got Willy on the way in just a few
minutes on seven hundred w WT. Since then,