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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scott back on seven hundred wlw oh, yes, the time change.
You wake up, it's dark outside, you get home from work,
it's dark outside, just darkness and developing like we need
this right now. Well, all the bad news in the world,
it just makes things worse. Doctor Catherine Athens is a
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expert in this area and author of numerous books. And there's
a connection between the darkness and our mental health. We
all know about this, but what new information is there
out there? And how do you cope with it? As
we lose time another hour this weekend, Doctor Catherine, good morning,
how are you.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I'm fine, Thank you, good morning, Thanks for having me,
and good morning to all your listeners as well.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I'm already just thinking about the time change, getting depressed.
I know. It's funny. When I was younger, I mean,
I love cold weather, love the snow and all that stuff.
But the fifteen hours of darkness a day, it really
hasn't effect the owner I get the worst it is?
Is there some is there connection with an age and
lack of sunlight?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Well, we don't get as much sunlight when we get older,
do We were not outside playing all the time? You know,
kids are outside, We tell them go outside and play.
And although you know with a digital age it may
have changed a lot. But adults are behind a desk,
usually sitting under a fluorescent light, which is not good
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for the brain at all. And usually we're sooped over,
we're dehydrated, we're drinking coffee to stay away, or maybe
eating that nice jelly donut, and we're just trying to
brace ourselves to get through the day. So the thing
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to do in the morning is to drink some warm water.
You can drink it with lemon. You can put a
little bit of apple cider vinegar in there, which is
good for cleaning the kidneys and the liver, which are
two organs that help get rid of poisons. So why
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do we get depressed? We become over poxified in our
bodies because we're stationary and the things we eat aren't
necessarily nurishing. They taste good, though, So I tell people
think about the basics. Think about doing some deep breathing,
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starting your day with an affirmation of something positive. Think
about that during the day, and sip water. Bring a
water bottle or water container, sip it all day. The
brain needs water to function, and most of us are dehydrated.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Especially when you're inside and the air is dryer, it's
not as humid, you're not, so you spend more time
in dit. That's why you get sick because you're dried out.
So hydration is a critical thing to remaining well in
the winter months. For sure. What does the lemon do
for me? Though? How does that? Does that beat depression
and the lack of sunlight? Is it? It's vitamin C.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
It's vitamin C. But it also helps to cleanse the liver.
And you know, God bless our livers because they're always
pulling toison out of our bloodstreams for us and trying
to get rid of it so it doesn't circulate so
much around the body, and the limit helps the liver
do that. It also helps the kidneys to function, and
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it helps the water to taste better so you'll drink it. Sure,
So there's lots of good reasons. You know. The thought
of this darkness is horrific for people, So I tell people, look,
start by getting out in the sun more often. When
there is done, try to take your lunch break and
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maybe take some thing like this sandwich that you can
eat while you're slowly walking, or go to the park
and sit in the sun and they have a little
bite to eat, So that way you're getting more sun.
Even though we're not getting more sun. That will help
the brain.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
A lot, right, But I mean, here's the problem here,
doctor Catherine Athens. Here's the problem with Cincinnati, Ohio. Problem
with Cincinnati, Ohio is we literally will not see the
sun until opening day this year when the red started,
and even then that may be again, but there may
be a couple hours. I think in the next six
months we'll see the sun. But it's just a mere rumor.
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It's actually a lot of people right around April start
to question whether or not the sun actually exists, if
it's not just one of those Internet rumors or a
myth or fake news or something like that, because we're
pretty sure after by the time we get through February
that the sun just doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Okay, all right, Well, there are things you can do.
There is some thing called full spectrum light bulbs that
you can buy and replace your light bulbs at home
with the full spectrum because part of the seasonal effective disorder,
that depression, is we're not getting some of the spectrum
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of the sun. If you're really bad off, there are
machines that you can buy. They're not too expensive, and
they will you can sit have them sit in front
of you. You can watch TV or listen to the
radio and they will project full spectrum light at you.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Okay, how many? How many hours?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
You know?
Speaker 1 (05:40):
My wife got me one last year at Christmas. I
said I'm gonna try. I never used it because I'm
just naturally positive. As you can tell here. I'm a
national treasure, is what I am. Doctor, and I have
a user. Yeah, I plan on maybe cracking that thing out.
How long? How many hours a day? If you've got
the happy light as they call them, they're pretty cheap.
You can get on Amazon too. I didn't know about
the light bulbs. You can put full spectrum light bulbs
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on the same thing. So if you got your I
don't know, your easy chair next to your couture, you know,
light next to your touch plays, use that when you're
sitting there watching TV. How many hours a day do
you need that?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Though not very many. Actually you could start off with
maybe two, one in the morning and one in the evening,
you know, maybe two. If you don't have two, start
off with twenty minutes a few times a day if
you're home, but at least twenty minutes at a time,
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and it's really very useful. It helps a lot. It
helps to retard that sad kind of syndrome in the
winter with no light. Another thing is, if it's too
cold to go outside, do some aerobic exercise inside. Get
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the blood going through your body, the get circulation going
along with the light, and that will help the feeling
of sadness and depression. It will actually make you feel better,
more positive.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Well, exercise is good for you. I mean I noticed
in the days that if I go a few days
between workouts, I notice I start to get a little
more tired and irritable than I normally am. And it's
because I'm missing my workout. So I get that. Doctor
Kathin Athens on the show this morning on seven hundred
w welw got the time change. We lose an hour
and now darkness will encompass us and develop us here
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for the next five months, roughly in Cincinnati, we won't
see the sun maybe for a couple of minutes, I
think in the next five months here too. Some may
say the sun was cut out in an extreme some
sort of extreme budget cut or something like that or
maybe the sun was captured and stolen by aliens, or
we just don't get so you will not see the
sun for quite some time in Cincinnati that south is
Does that affect your sleep then too? I know that
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sun and sleep generally are at odds with one another,
but does it mess with their sleep cycle too?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
It absolutely does. Our sleep cycle or circadian rhythms all
get off. So I ask people to go to bed
that hour earlier. Even though it says, you know, it
says four o'clock, it's actually five. So go to bed
when you normally go to bed for a while, and
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then you can increase your bedtime maybe ten minutes each week,
but go to bed. Try to maintain those same habits
you have and get a lot of sleep. And yes,
the sun, the sun activates trying to think of the
name of the organs in the back of your head,
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and when you're in the sun, they're activated. When you're
in the dark, they secrete melatonin. So you want to
be in a dark room to sleep, but you want
to have had some full spectrum light, whether it be
the happy machine or you're light bulb, or for some
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reason there is some sunshine. Because that balances the brain. Now,
you notice in the winter time people become less friendly,
more irritable, just because we're not moving as much. Again,
we're not drinking enough water. I mean, just think about
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the holidays here. You don't drink all year, and you
don't eat much, and suddenly you're drinking like crazy on Thanksgiving.
You're eating all kinds of stuff you never eat the
rest of the year, and then you feel miserable and
you go, why am I feeling so bad?
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean I'm living my life like a
medieval king or something. I'm eating literally just eating giant
geese neck and the drumsticks, and I'm drinking wine and
meat and I'm just having a blast. But then you
feel like crap after. It's kind of like when you
eat all the Halloween candy, the.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Same thing, right, right, So so don't I tell people
don't use moderation.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah, but that's not fun. That's no fun though, it's
it's uh. I. I I'm the other extreme though. I
believe in everything in its excess. I think if you
I think it'll balance, it balances. I'll work out for
three straight days and I'm gonna eat for nine straight days.
What about that all what most people do.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
You're right in the groove. Oh I worked out? Why
am I gaining weight? When did you work out last week?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Okay, Well, I don't.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Want to rush into anything. I could strain something.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
That's true. That's true.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I don't want to I don't want to jump in
this exercise thing. You know, Well, at the time change
here and losing an hour's sleep. It's also to trying
to get your body set because uh, you know the
week when they tell you the clock changes, and then
it's takes you a week to get your body right again.
Is it better? Is it kind of like jet legs?
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Should you just go to bed at the same time?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Or yes, go to bed at the same time. We
actually gain an hour, but the hour we gain is darkness.
So go to bed at the same time, get up
at the same time, and then slowly work into the
new time zone. You know, if you can go to
bed at the same time, get up at the same time.
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Drink your water. Now, if you want to know how
much water you should asp take your body weight, Say
you weigh one fifty, divide it in half. That's seventy
five and those are ounces you need seventy five ounces
of water a day, which is huge. It's more than
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half a gallon.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yeah, I think that's something you sip on a little
bit of water all day. Go I had like two
bottles of water. That's not it's not for me. And
then if you're active, you need even more water.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
For that matter, if you're active, you need more water.
And so the brain doesn't function without water. It doesn't function.
Functions on glucose, water and amino acids. And most of
us don't get enough amino acids because we're dieting or
we're eating some kind of green and we're not looking
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at the fact. We need a variety of amino acids
for the brain to function properly. But we also need
each other. We need human interaction face to face for
the brain and the neural pathways to function properly. I recommend,
if you do nothing else, go to the market or
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the hardware store or the Walmart, whatever, and start saying
hello to people, Hello, how are you good morning?
Speaker 1 (12:52):
If you just hate people, is there no hope for you?
Is it terminal? What's going on there? Doctor?
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Oh? It could be no, say the reals.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I don't go. It's because people piss me off.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Okay, well, well that's another story.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Just too many idiots in the world. I think people
will listen to be right, Sloan. There's too many idiots
in the world, and that's why I tend to just
stay home and eat and be mindless of myself. All right,
we have do you think as a doctor and you
studied this stuff again on the show this morning. It's
doctor Catherine Athens, and she is an expert in the
area of sleep. And we've got one in five Americans
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experiencing winter blues, according to the Cleveland Clinic. And they
would know because there's no more depressing place in the
world in Cleveland. So the Cleveland Clinic people, I would
agree with them, and maybe even two and five at
this point too. But she's a clinical and health psychologist
and she's on the show talking about the time change
here and what that means for you, how to combat
it with happy lights and making sure you're getting hydrated
well enough and all that. Should we get away with
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daylight savings, time in the clock four o'clock back, nonsense.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
You bet you we should. And in California we voted,
i think six years ago to do away with that,
but we still have to do it. Someone isn't listening
to the people over here.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Well we have that problem here too, So it's not
just Ohio, it's also California.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, so well what issues here?
Speaker 1 (14:24):
But yes, time change the list of those problems you
got over there, that's for dam I'm sure so uh yeah,
it seems to me. I just keep one steady constant
time and we're good there. This is, you know, jumping
back and forth every six months. So really, you know,
I could see back in the day where you needed
natural daylight in order to get stuff done. But we
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have electricity now, we've had electricity at least I think
for the last three or four years.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I believe, well we do. But you know, the charcoal
lobby wanted this daylight savings time because they found out
that was another hour or so of sunlight. They make
more money, the charcoal lobby. The charcoal lobby, no idea,
blame them for this.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Good lord. There's a big big charcoals behind all this
big kings. Yeah, yeah, there's a lobby for any you've
got politicians, you'll have a you'll have a lobby. There's
no doubt about it. So doctor Catherine Athrines Athens at
h A N S. And thanks again for the time,
and she has written of several books. As a matter
of fact, the Lates called it the Heart Brain and
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doctor Catherine Athens, thanks for coming on the show.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
It's my pleasure. And please everyone drink your water, don't
don't push yourself. Everybody's going through this miserable time change together,
so please just take your time and work yourself into it,
and then a few weeks you'll be old. You'll be better, hopefully,
but let's not get get out your happy machine.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Right. Well, the good news is we have cheap flights
to Florida. If all else fails, get on Allegiant or
Delta or whatever and get the hell out of town
for a few days. That always helps. To doctor Catherine,
all the.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Best, thanks to you too, Bye bye.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Now today is the day because Sunday, Okay, time change.
It's Sunday. You're watching football, the big deal. Monday rolls
aren't yesterday. And now it's starting to, you know, affect
you a little bit. Okay, sun's coming up in the
morning or and when I get home, it's getting dark
and your mind is preparing for sure in addition to that,
today is election day, Election day. If you're in OHI,
make sure you take that ID with you. You're gonna
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need it if you are going to vote. And of
course that pulls open we'll get a full update on
what's happening there. We'll also chat with the council candidate
if you haven't voted yet. Anthony Weiner running for council,
one of the what twenty nine people running for councils
some along those lines, twenty six people. It's a lot,
let's put it that way, a boatload of folks. Why
should you vote for him? And what he sees from
an outsider's perspective, what's going on in is Mayol race?
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Very interesting. We'll get into that just ahead here slowly
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