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November 5, 2025 • 96 mins
Scott breaks down last night's election with Kevin Burton of Crosstown Consulting. Also Frank Marzullo shares information on the tragic train crash last night in Louisville. Finally CPS Superintendent Shauna Murphy tells Scott what the schools plan to do with the money approved in last night's levy vote.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Do you want to be an American idiot?

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Election night? And in early one at that last night
Good Morning Scott's Sloan show on seven hundred WYLW and
the headline of course DEM's sweep from Jersey to New
York City to Virginia to Anderson Township and so a
blue I don't know if it's a blue wave. Let's
have blue or a blue ripple because it's really only
been a year since the Republican takeover. Nonetheless, to put

(00:26):
things in perspective, he's a pollster from Crosstown consulting in
northern Kentucky. That would be Kevin Burton, who's consulted more
than a few people in this race. Kevin, welcome, how
are you?

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Thank you for having me Scott.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
A good day for you. I know your candidate's all
swept up right.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
It was a good It was a good night. You know,
it's all about understanding the political environment and running, you know,
running with that and it's that simple.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
But yeah, the.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Council race and the Mary race was called early it
was a good night if you wear them.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
It was typically we see that the midterm referendum that
the party in power is refuted at the midterm. This
feels like it's starting a little earlier. Am I right
about that? I mean, literally, it's been one of a
year a year into Trump's you know, Trump tom across America,
and I think, as you said before, it's the standard
beds of people at the top that's kind of set

(01:18):
the tone. Are we starting to see that swing earlier
than ever before?

Speaker 3 (01:22):
I mean, I would go back to even twenty seventeen,
and it was very similar if people can remember, I
know that was a long time ago. Trump. If Trump
is not on the top of the ticket, he is,
he has lost every election. Yeah, yeah, but Trump is
the anomaly. And that's the one thing that when he

(01:43):
is not on top of the ticket, it is a
whole different ballgame. We've seen it in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen,
twenty nineteen, you know, twenty one, twenty two. Trump is
the outlier. And you know, I'll say the biggest shock
to me was to see New Jersey, which you know
Trump did so well. Yes he lost, but he got

(02:07):
it within five which was kind of unheard of. For instance,
wing back to I believe it was like fifteen or
you know, all the inroads he made in the minority
communities like in it really shifted back. And it's as
simple as it's the economy stupid. You know, every election

(02:30):
is about the wallet. And if you're in power, you
you know, and people are having hardships, they're going to
take it out on you. And in a lot of ways,
the Trump administration is doing the same problem that Biden did,
downplaying inflation and down playing how much the average person's hurting. So, yeah,
you know, your four oh one k might be doing well,

(02:52):
but that's not everyone.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I think you know, that's illustrative
of New York City with Mom Donnie. He feels like
the he feels like the anti Trump because total grassroots effort,
right in social media. He's going to clubs, he's hanging
out with younger voters, the youngest voters, social media, digital campaign,
no TV, he's not doing Good Morning America, no legacy media,
nothing like that. And he just simply comes out of

(03:15):
nowhere and reset how politics is going to be run
in the future, for sure, And so he blasts the
gen zs, the young millennials, and they have now arrived
as a voting block. Now that's New York City, that's different.
But but again that starts there in a pretty young city,
and that wave kind of sweeps this way as we
saw what happened in Anderson Township for example.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yeah, and you know, from an Donnie he is one
of those just regardless of what you think of him politically,
he has the aura. He has it, Yeah, he does.
And you know, and it's actually very similar to both
Obama and Trump that he came out of nowhere and
it was a meteoric rise and he captured the soul

(04:01):
of the voter. And that's something that no consultant can
tell you to do. You just have it or you're not.
But then for Anderson, you know that Anderson's completely shocking
to get back to the local side. You know, in
twelve years, it went from being a super red you
know township to now almost all blue.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yep. So yeah, two Republican trustees replaced by two Democrats
on the three member panel. And also I'll point out
the Festaill school board flipped blue as well.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yeah. Yeah, so you know, it's very interesting because you know,
during the Trump era of politics, we have seen rural
areas get redder, cities get bluer, and really the suburbs,
the Anderson townships, the you know, Florence, Kentucky's of the world.
Those are what decide really national elections, state elections, and

(04:54):
you know they swung for Trump last year, yep, but
they came back overwhelmingly now to the which I'm always shocked.
I've never met someone who is a swing voter. And
if you guys are you guys are amazing. I would
love to meet you guys sometimes yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
The imaginery, yeah, but the elections out they're lost in
one in the suburbs because, as you mentioned, the rural
areas are pretty red, the cities, urban airs pretty blue.
But we're seeing the blue kind of sweep to areas.
You know years ago was Montgomery and Blue Ash and
it's Anderson Township.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
It is. And you know, so that's going forward for
twenty six, seven, eight, All resources for either party should
just be all put in to the Anderson township type,
you know, the suburbs, because that's where you win or
lose election. That's how Joe Biden won in twenty twenty,

(05:50):
That's how Donald Trump won in twenty four the suburbs.
So all resources going forward, I would not be shocked
if he saw both sides just pour heavily into you know,
digital grassroots knocking in the suburbs, because that's where you
win or lose an election. You're not going to win

(06:11):
or lose the election in rural if you're Republicans, or
the city if you're dom So you got to turn
you got to get the suburbs voters.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
Right.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Well, I'll even point out where I am, you know,
like in Mason and Warren County that's been deep red
for a long time, pretty read for a long time,
but even that we're starting to see change. Emmy Greg
Landsman one reelection there and we'll see what happens with
the registering of Him'm gonna get him on the show
in the next few days to talk about that. But
I know, it's like the council is kind of flipping,
maybe not blue, but more moderate. In the past, it

(06:40):
used to be really really rock ribbed, super Trump mega,
even though their mega candidate missed getting elected for the
second or third time. So it's interesting how even Warren County,
which is pretty red, is starting to get back towards
the middle.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
You know, and elections are always a pendulum, and you know,
they go one way and they and right now we're
kind of getting back to the middle. I mean, you know,
for Hamilton County, when I first started, it was a
swing county and now every single basically elected official from
judges all the way down are all blue. So it's

(07:15):
just a very fascinating political shift during the Trump era.
You know, in school, you would always learn about the
nineteen sixty eight, the civil rights era, how it changed
the map, and it's very similar now. You know, Trump
has changed the political landscape and how you win elections,
and it's just been fascinating for someone for what I do,

(07:38):
how to get you know, the fifty plus one vote
to win an election, and that's been the biggest change
during the Trump era.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yeah, so this is more of a rougher end amount
affordability in the pocketbook or Donald Trump are both?

Speaker 3 (07:54):
I think it's both. I mean, you know, yes, you know,
Fannie really hit on something and I think I want
to be shocked as Democrats to play on this nationally. Yeah,
Elon Moss, Jeff Bezos are getting how much more billions
while you're struggling to pay for eggs? Easy to affordability.

(08:15):
Affordability will always be the number one issue. I know
James Carville and I said of it earlier, it's the
economy stupid.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Always yeah, yeah, always, yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Always, it's the number one issue. And frankly, if people
are feeling it at home, they're going to take out
their frustration on the ballot box.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, and I think it's true. You know Trump saying, Hey,
I'm gonna come in the first day, You're gonna get
more money, it's gonna be overnight. I'm gonna fix all
these things and make these grandiose promises on the campaign trail,
which politicians often do, but Donald Trump has has really
turned that out. Its ear like he's really good at it.
If it's been a year later and you're seeing things
get worse, stagnant, or just simply not better, uh, then

(08:55):
you go to the alternative and now you've got a
guy like mom daddy making these promises which we'll see
what happens in the year. And I'm guessing a lot
of this stuff is simply not going to happen. I wonder,
and again, three years from now, maybe he is your
Democratic front runner. If he can be successful, I doubt it,
but we'll see about you know, free buses, and we're
going to freeze rent and we'll see how that works out.
But back to the local race here, I'm not surprised by

(09:16):
aftabs win. I said, I think he's gonna win. You
never want to say never, but I think he's more
than likely. If our betting, I would bet handily that
he would have won the election he did. But are
you surprised by the margin that he won by him
almost eight and ten voters.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yes, I thought my over or under for him was
about sixty five seventy percent. But it also just speaks
to how well of a machine he has. I mean,
aftab has won every election besides the one against Shabbit,
which is of self inflected wound, and the city is

(09:52):
just that blue. You know, Harris won seventy five to
twenty five. So it's very similar to the Harris And
it just points to all the outside noise on social
media and talk radio and everything. You know, y city,
the people in the city actually don't care. They care

(10:15):
about you know, issues about rent, about social issues, and
you know, for as Top, this gives him a referendum
like he has a mandate, like so with the police chief,
the city manager. When you win almost eighty percent, I
don't care who you are. You have a lot of
cliche now, so it's gonna be very interesting to see

(10:36):
how he does that. And you know, his campaign was
very kind of smart. They didn't try to make too
much of an issue. You know, props to him and
his team. They clearly knew what they were doing, and
it showed last night.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah, yeah, it did. But I don't know. I think
the way they handle a lot of these things relative
to crime was not good at all. Does that just
empower them to do more of the same double down
on this because I get I don't live in the city,
and I know that crime isn't rampant downtown. There's just
areas and pockets that are difficult. A lot of the
policies and quite honestly, the missteps and incompetence how they

(11:12):
handle Terry Sieg And now I think as voters didn't
give a damn and you know that he doesn't have
to please me, you have to please voters. I get
that whole thing. But does that just give them more
leeway to go, Okay, well, they don't care about this.
I can I can definitely, you know, I can get
police officials to charge folks after the fact and I
can you know, suspend someone before I fire them and

(11:34):
voters don't care? Is he just going to do more
of that?

Speaker 3 (11:38):
I mean, at the end of the day, when you're
an elected official, you know the voters are the people
who keep you in check. And when you win eighty
percent and when you sweep all council, the voters have
clearly made up what they think is the most important issue.
So you know them swept all counsel. They swept them
as all the trustees, school boards and Wilton County, so

(12:02):
you know the crime issue is not as big of
an issue to the voters of Hamilton County as it appeared.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
No, that makes total sense. Scott's solandelaw with Jeff Jeff
Kevin Burton from Crosstown Consultanting. He's an upholster and political
wonk if you will, had a hand in a number
of the people winning election last night in the local area,
and just some observations as to why the DEM swept
and what is behind this whole thing pocketbook, they'd be
affordability and the Trump factor as well are influencing races,

(12:32):
not just on the East coast with Jersey and Virginia
and New York City, but also places like Anderson Township
where you saw two Republican trustees replaced by two Democrats.
They flipped that blue and Foresail school Board as well.
Not surprised by aftabs win, I thought that, okay, I said,
you know, Aftabs is going to win this election. I'm
pretty sure of it. But I thought that there would
be a little bit more upheaval on city Council.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
And that just speaks to this power of the blue
slate card. You know that it was actually very remarkable
because I think even the biggest Dems would have told you.
I think eight out of nine. Ryan James was always
the question mark, as you know, someone who's not on
council and list heating ran a perfect race. But at

(13:19):
the end of the day, the numbers are what the
numbers are. There's nothing more that she could have done.
She raised a bolotoo of money, she did a blitz
at the end, but the numbers are what the numbers are.
And the blue slate card that you see when you
go to a poll, if you're in the City of
Cincinnati or Hamilton County, it's undefeated. Now it you know,

(13:41):
the biggest elections going forward in the city will be
the primaries similar to Columbus Cleveland. And that's just how much,
in you know, fifteen years, it has changed from being
you had to be this moderate on either side to
you know, win an election, to now where it's solid blue.

(14:02):
And I think you're going to start seeing in the
new upcoming election primaries start to get nasty because that's
the real election, now.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Gotcha, gotcha? Your top vote getters. Michelleman Kearney was number one,
Scottie Johnson, Mika Owens is new and I'll be Jefferies, Walsh,
Kramerding Nolan, and Ryan James and just missing again. I
just had her on the other day. I think she's wonderful.
Liz Keating, who went totally in on the crime thing,
as well as Chris Smithman, the Keda Cole. They all

(14:31):
went to crime, crime, crime crime, and it didn't matter
because Liz ket Anthy for the second election now just
narrowly missed that ninth seat.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Yeah, and to her and her team, they ran, you know,
it's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback, but they
ran as good as the race. I don't really know
anything they could have done differently, But when a city
votes seventy five to twenty five, you know for the
mayor or eighty twenty in this case, it's very hard

(15:00):
to overcome that. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's that simple.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Right, right, But I think it's a promise there because
Mika Owens came as a charter right and she finished
surprisingly third, beating out a lot of the incumbents there
with the most number of votes behind Lemon, Kearney and Johnson.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
MICA's endorsed by the Hamilton County Democratic Democrats.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
I'm sure, yeah, yeah, right, yeah, yeah, you're right, the charter.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
Yeah, but you know, it's amazing and basically ten years
the charter rights went basically extinct, which they were, you know,
a large part of Cincinnati politics since the nineteen twenties.
But they just they just don't have the juice anymore.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Right, What do you attribute that to? Just the fact
that we're it's a two party state and that's all
because I mean we had charter You know, I've been
here for twenty years and there are plenty of charter
rights that did wonderful and work and represented well and
went why can't they get traction?

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Uh? It's national. I mean, at the end of the
day politics now has become so national. You know, it's
a you're either with us or against stuff, and people
just now you know the social media age that there's
no wiggle room.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
No.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
And secondly, the charter right, this is very wonky now,
and I'm gonna apologize. It's actually a committee and not
a party with the state. So it also hurts some
of their resources. So it's not like the Green Party,
because you know, you have national stuff. They just lack
the resources. And frankly, when the earned media for either

(16:42):
the R or the D are trillions of dollars every year,
there's nothing you can do.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
He's Kevin Burton with Crosstown Consulting Other Kentucky. Congratulations on
your slate of winners. Area went six or six in
this I know Kevin and I always love the insight
the polster and why we've to the way we voted yesterday. Kevin,
all the best, Thanks again, Bud, you do well.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
All right, I got to get a news update in
I believe Frank Marzula is standing by from WCPO nine.
He's down to Louisville, the very latest one that ups
plane crash. We'll get back to some of this election
related stuff. Lots to do on this Wednesday morning, Sloaney
seven hundred ww all right, we'll get back some of
the election stuff in just a minute. But as often
as the case, you have one big news day, it's

(17:25):
just compounded by other big news story, and a huge
one right in our listening area. Here's what happened early
evening last night. Of course, the ups plane crash at
Louisville Airport at Muhammad Ali death toll. There is climbing.
We're up to nine overnight now eleven people injured. Governor
Basher said, sixteen people at this point still unaccounted for.
And by now we saw the devastation. Standing by out

(17:48):
there is Frank Marzulo now with nine WCPO. I've known Frank.
I think we came to Cincinnati years and decades ago.
Now it makes us old about the same time. And Frank,
so glad you're back on TV local here. Welcome. Oops.
Hold on a second one. I think I screwed that up,
did I know? There we go, Let me try that again, Frank,

(18:09):
you there, I was just kissing your ass, Frank a
little bit there, just kissing your ass for a minute
there that's what I do. Congratulations on the gig. Good
to see you back on local television.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
My friend, Oh thank you. I was. I was kissing
lots of butts to try to get back on.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
I appreciate he's in Cleveland, he's in date and he's
doing it, hitting the line. He's like Jay Lenno work
in the circuit back in the day, buddy.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
Yeah, you know, it's good. It's it's good. It's going
to be back and doing things. But I appreciate, you know,
we'll talk the better terms next time.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
But yeah, really sad story it is. I was watching
last night and then atrition rob Head Live Anchory the
ranking live coverage out there, and when they broke in,
I'm like, okay, now what do we have. It's Louisville,
a plane crash. Okay, thinking like it's private. And it
turns out and they show the aerial of this thing
and it's a field of fireball. Uh and not the
good content. Absolutely horrific. So again, the latest numbers on

(18:57):
this nine people are confirmed debt at this point. The
Governor Andy Basheer said sixteen on accounted for eleven injured.
Let's set this up the scope of the fire because
it's tough to get a perspective unless you're down there,
even with you know, a helicopter view of this thing.
How wide is that? Is that a field of damage?

Speaker 4 (19:17):
Well, the search area here this morning and w CBO
nine's are Sam Harris Simmon with he was there live
last night when the fire really was still going strong.
The fire has been put out, smope has been put out.
There have been a few flare ups. I've noticed two
of those this morning, but the search area has been
one city block that they have been searching. And you

(19:38):
mentioned the victims still missing. That that pull at nine
now at one point two with the here's thing, Scott,
two hundred and eighty thousand pounds of fuel was on
this jet right. This is an MD eleven. It's the
tried jet. We've got the engines on, one on each
wing and one on the on the tail. They don't
serve passengers anymore, they're all card ups. Took control of

(20:01):
this one in two thousand and six. It's thirty four
years old. So this thing wholesome fuel, right, two hundred
and eighty thousand pounds of fuel. It's going on an
eight and a half hour flight to Honolulu. So it's
fully loaded one hundred and seventy five feet off the
air when it crashes. Get this into a petroleum recycling
facility that's at the end of the runway there at

(20:25):
Muhammad Ali Luisa Internet National Airport.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
So not only the fuel on board.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
But the petroleum facility. I know you've seen the video.
It is just there was a video where you literally
see the plane kind of kurktailing. You could see an
engine on fire. And I talked to our good friend,
I know he does a lot with you, with Jay Ratless,
last night, and he was telling me that, you know, investigators,
is a couple of things you'll look at here now.

(20:51):
So you're going to look Number one, engine failure may
not always be the go to even if it's on fire.
There could have been debris on the runway that happened
with the Concord Air crash back in two thousand and
Since then, there's protocols now where you go up and
down the runway a couple of times a day make
sure there's not dead animals and whatnot. Couldn't this a
cargo jet, so it could be cargo that maybe properly

(21:15):
wasn't you know, tied down and you get your weights
and balances off if something's moving, so a lot. Again,
those are just all options that the NTSB is going
to have on the table here as those twenty eight
investigators are arriving this morning.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah, it probably starts not discounting all that stuff. I
and Jay's right about that. Is the engine itself is
the flame out because you know most people get nervous. O,
my guy, we're coming in for a landing. And that's
the easy part. The most critical part of that is
that sequence what you talked about, from where you start
up to beginning of the runway basically get up to
speed to get ugh knots to create the lift to

(21:49):
get that plane in the air. So if the engine
goes out, if you lose an engine that early, you
know it's not always catastrophic, but boy, you really can't control.
You've got all that weight in inertia going forward and
it flamed out at the exact wrong time. Now, could
it bend something in the hole that shifted, That's entirely
possible causing a problem, But I'm sure though, And it

(22:11):
looked to me like it looked like part of a
cowling maybe along the runway from some of the areals
I saw which would indicate that. But the fact of
the matter is putting a petroleum refining facility near where
the end of that runway is. Was it at the
end of the runway or did it get some lift
and go off to one time.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
I mean, it's not like it's not you know, runways
over petroleum facilities there, but it's close enough that there's
only one hundred and twenty five feet off the air
when it crashed into this, and you bring up good
points there. By the time you realize you have an issue, okay,
you're past the point of no return, so you either
run off the runway or you try to take off
right that the issue is. And that's why I takeoff.

(22:48):
Failures like this are so critical. You don't have altitude
to troubleshoot this thing right, your mid air engine blows Okay,
you've got two others you're flying along. You can at
least troubleshoot. It clearsome airspace for me, let me figure
out what's going on. You're lifting off, it goes off,
You pretty much.

Speaker 5 (23:05):
Have no chance.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, yeah, And it harkens back to Miracle on the
Hudson with Sullenberger right, and he had enough lift created
it was off the ground enough when that bird strike
cap and that other engine is able to propel him.
That this happened earlier than that, I believe, and I
know I'm not through the aviation expert. Probably a lot
heavier cargo and so more inertia. It's going to take
more energy to get the plane in the air because
it's a cargo plane. But bigger engines, bigger and ntsp's

(23:28):
on scene. They'll figure this thing out eventually at some
point here. But right now you worry about what I
heard from Governor Basher was sixteen people still missing? Is
that numbers still accurate at this point?

Speaker 4 (23:38):
That's that's the number I have. Yep, sixteen still missing.
It was seven overnight dead, when up nine here this afternoon.
I'm sure we'll get more updates. The airport is open,
they've opened one runway because it was shut down for
a good portion of the overnight period. And he had
a five mile radius for a shelter in place. Have

(24:00):
seen and I haven't been able to confirm this, but
I have seen on you know, multiple legit news articles
and sites, you know, debris miles away because you have
all it's all packaging, right, and you have so you
have things that are light. I mean, you have an
explosion like that, you have you know, letters and packages
and things that will just you know, get caught up
in the updrafts and whatnot in the atmosphere and be

(24:22):
carried away. So yeah, it's you never want to you
never want to see anything like that. This is only
the third, you say, only you know it's awful no
matter what. But the third accident in UPS airline history
since nineteen eighty eight. You had won in twenty ten
in Dubai and closer to home twenty thirteen, you may
recall there was an UPS flight and an A three

(24:43):
hundred that took off and was on its way to
Birmingham and right before it landed in Birmingham it crashed.
And that took off in Louisville as well. That was
back in twenty thirteen, and in both those instances the
crew was killed. There was three on the flight here, pilot,
copilot and either a relief pilot or you know, an engineer.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Yeah I can't, you can't, but I don't think that's
Louisville's our backyard. It's you know, it's in our listening
area here and you're viewing area, Frank. Yeah. At the
same time, you go like, well, what about CVG, because
we have a cargo hub. They're certainly as big as
Louisville as the global coming.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
I mean with Amazon and DHL.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah, yeah, and I know down in there where you are, Louisville,
Frank Burzillo, that is also the UPS Global Flight Training
facility right there too. But this was an actual cargo flight.
This wasn't a training flight.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
This was on a training flight. Yeah. They had their
real port there and they so they have planes, you know,
planes that they own and planes that they charter, right
and upwards of two thousand flights a day go out
of Louisville, and a lot of those are on the
on the overnight hours. I mean you can and you
see that at CBG too, you know, yeah, get back
up at two am now, rewarded driver into work and

(25:49):
you can see the lights lining up as the planes
are coming in, whether it's DHL or Amazon or whatnot.
So a lot of that's overnight. But this was just
as the day was getting as the evening was getting started,
a little after five point thirty and it's so close.
I mean you have all the windows on the on
the departure gates and so you know you're getting on
a United American Delta flight and you see that, like

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hold on a second.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah, yeah, I mean there's been flights I've had that
we've had to divert to Louisville because you know, something's
gone on CBG.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
So it's very nice. It's convenient. In fact, I was
last week. I came back from New York and all
the flights and CBG were canceled the weather and stuff.
So I ended I ended up taking a flight to
Louisville and just you know, drove the quick ninety minutes
back up north.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Now that's it's pretty it's actually pretty convenience. I like
Louisville lot. It's what what is the situation now there?
So people are hearing this, like I got to drive south?

Speaker 4 (26:38):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Is it causing problems on the highways?

Speaker 6 (26:39):
You know?

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Or you're not keeping an eye on that?

Speaker 4 (26:41):
Oh no, that's all good, okay, every everything down there. Yeah,
when it comes to like infrastructure stuff, now everything's focusing
on the actual site itself. Now, if you're in a
business or whatnot within that vicinity there's you know things.
But if you you know, are on the interstates and whatnot,
you were fine. We got right into the airport of
was no no problem at all. All right.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Well, the search continues for the missing sixteen and NTSB's
on the seat of investigators.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
There's somewhere else right like. And the governor even said
this too when tornadoes have hit and whatnot. You know,
he goes, here's what we're looking for. You we're missing.
But he said, thankfully, you know when he said, you know,
we have one hundred missing, maybe twenty out of the hunting.
You know, so you guess all that. You know, folks
are asleeping, they don't have the news on the on't
know what's going on, and you gets hope that you know.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Well, I think also too when this happened, and I
think it was the affiliated Louisville that had reported the
roads that were most affected by this, and I pulled
my Google arth out doing a little research, and it said,
oh my god, that is very very close to it.
There's a Ford assembly plant that is right there. How
close was this to the Ford Assembly Plant?

Speaker 4 (27:45):
I can't I can't tell you I know it's there.
I mean I will see the Louisville Airport. I mean
there's an amusement part. There's a lot going on call
Kentucky Kingdom or whatever. Yeah, you can see that. Right
when the sun came up, I'm like, oh, look there's
a Ferris room right there.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, we're there for companies are Bourbon and Beyond. At
the expo grounds right there's fits A. It's a great
facility to watch concerts live. But there's a lot of
it's not just an airport like CBG. Okay, there's some
buildings and stuff around there. That's a whole big it's
almost like a city itself around the airport. And I
saw that they fod assembly plant. I'm like praying to
god that oh my god, if that plane hit that
assembly plant with you know, a full shift there, can

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you imagine? Can you imagine?

Speaker 4 (28:21):
I'm a good point because people always go you know that,
we always get not made fun of it. They go,
what'd you fly to Cincinnati? But are you flying to Kentucky?
Well they build it out there because there was land
where you can you know, where you're not putting a
lot at risk or having a lot of developments going
up now right around the airport. I mean a love
if you are flowing into San Diego, that thing is
that's when they go downtown. That would be like a

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runway on Fountain Square.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, I mean so it's crazy crazy.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
There's a risk with these city metropolitan airports.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yeah, no question. All right. Frank Marzuola from w CPO
nine to seem in the mornings, and I thank you
for checking in, brother, Glad you're back on your feet
and kicking the Thanks again.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
Man, We're trying, okay, talk about.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
All the best. Back at it. Horrible tragedy down Leve.
Will keep an eye on that one. Scott's loan on
seven hundred w Oldwty coming up at ten oh six CPS.
Back to the other major news story today, of course,
that would be the election yesterday and what's happening behind
the scenes. We've got Sean Murphy, Superintendent of CPS. They
had a big levy in the passed by wide margin yesterday,

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forty eight million dollars ten year renewal. And it's a renewal,
so it's no property tax increases for taxpayers. But we'll
get to hear about the big picture in just a
few minutes coming up on the Scott Sloane Show on
seven hundred W old W. But relative to the election yesterday,
I know that my Republican colleagues, especially though are more
maga than not, are a little nervous today about the

(29:42):
dem sweeping from Jersey to the city, to Virginia to
Anderson Township. I think it's an interesting, interesting fallout here
and that you know, looking at what Ma'm donnie to me,
it strikes me watching him going and rising so quickly
meteorically as a couple of things going on, and how
does that impact what we're doing here in Cincinnati. I
think it does is that we have a much much

(30:04):
lower tolerance now than before for politicians getting elected mandates
and or otherwise, but putting their plans in place, and
if it doesn't come to fruition, that's it. Biggest issue
are two things. One is the referendu amount affordability, because
that's what got Mamdanni elected in New York City. It
was I want to say, not long ago, maybe a

(30:26):
year ago, if that there was a meme going right,
I saw that the sandwich in New York State just
a regular not like a high end boogie sandwich or
your sandwich in near thirty dollars or sandwich. Now, what's
driving that? Of course the government policies and everything, and
the fact it is the most populous city in the
United States and everything costs much much more in New
York City because so many more people are there. It

(30:48):
just drives a cost everything up. That's not a lot
that I don't know people caught that or not, but
Ma'm daddy to strikes me as the anti Trump because
he came on the scene rather quickly, just simply out
of nowhere, and his campaign was running completely in social media,
in a digital campaign. There's no TV, no legacy. He's
not sitting down and talking to CNN and MSNBC and

(31:08):
you know, all the things typically politicians do. It was
completely organic. And the other big factor here is he
did really, really well turning out young people Gen z
ers and millennials because quite honestly, at that age, you know,
you're looking at this going, Okay, I did what I'm
supposed to do. I'm working, I maybe got a college degree.
Professionals for example, normally you look at them as being

(31:31):
more rightly and going, you know what, I'm tired of
having to have roommates at the age of thirty and
not being able to save for a house or a
car and all these things. In retirement, it feels so
out of touch. Healthcare is another thing, and affordability, affordability
and more affordability is what it gets down to. And
for gen Z and this a whole generation too, by

(31:52):
the way, that gets all their information from social media,
and so the algorithms are set there that if you
want to be depressed and you want to be sad,
just continue to get a feed of social media and
not get a perspective on things. And so that played
in the Bondami and that's why he said, Hey, look,
you know what, I'm gonna give a free bussing. I'm
gonna give you a government run grocery stores, and your

(32:12):
rent is gonna go up. I mean that all sounds good,
but the reil of that is having seen it, especially
from the rent element, to me, we'll see what happens.
It's almost Trump in a sense that he's going to promise,
over promise and under deliver. Because Trump was, Hey, we're
gonna have tariffs, the economy's gonna good, everything's gonna be
making money. You know your fore own CA is doing

(32:33):
pretty well, but it's not like the inflation. The cost
everything went down and we're getting all these jobs back
and people are winning. And I think the average person
doesn't feel like they're winning. You may think you are
because again, maybe you're on social, maybe you're on true social,
maybe you're gonna fed the algorithms how great everything is.
Because Donald Trump says that's the case. But from many
Americans that we know that's simply not true. But in

(32:54):
enough Americans to make a difference, I think it's the
per se of the reality over the perception. But looking
in what I see at this whole thing is, yeah,
it's just backlash to that. And then relative to Cincinnati
with af Ted purevoll Has, I've been saying, I don't
see how I don't see how Corey Bowman wins. I mean,
seems like a nice guy had him in the show before.
But the fact of the matter is, you know, you're

(33:16):
jd Vance's brother, and I think people hear that in
deep deep blue Cincinnati and go hell no that. I
don't think that helped him. And I think you know,
he mad a great message in Step, but the baggage
around that and what he had to carry to win
the vote in Cincinnati is never gonna work out. I

(33:36):
am surprised at AFTAB got eight out of ten votes.
That that surprises me. It may not af tad pureval,
but that was I guess if you're on team AFTAB,
that's a pleasant surprise. But I don't know it was
that voters thought that, And you know, eight out of
ten votes is a mandate. Let's call what it is.
But I think that's the thing with Corey Bowman, like
he had a good message, just I wonder if he
could get past all that baggage, and clearly he couldn't

(33:57):
in that case. So we'll see what happens with crime
downtown to see if it's a lesson learned with this
Thigg nonsense and you know, the riots, or it just
doesn't empower you to dig your heels and go hey, listen,
voters didn't care. Therefore I can get away with more.
And we're back to the central theme of the show,
and that is I love a divided government. I love
it when two sides have to compromise and to get

(34:19):
order to get stuff done, whether that is in Cincinnati
or whether that's in Columbus, or in Washington for that matter,
we do better when they're divided. When one side controls everything,
it's not good. And you're seeing that come true and
may see that come true in downtown Cincinnati. We'll get
a time out in and more to follow Scott Sloane
Show on the Home of the Best Bengals coverage with
the bye week here, see if they can't lose the

(34:39):
bye week. They're trying. They're trying. Seven hundred WW Cincinnati.

Speaker 5 (34:43):
Do you want to be an American idiot?

Speaker 2 (34:45):
All right, let's go on this Wednesday morning Sloane here,
seven hundred WLW. Election follow up continues and overall, generally
a good night for leve save Maybe a few Lakota
comes to mind, but a lot of school levees are
up and passed, and one of those would be CPS
A forty eight million dollars, ten year renewal in the
city that has no property tax increase for the emergency levee.
And I think it's interesting based on the dynamics of

(35:09):
the economy, because this whole thing was a referendumount affordability
for things and housing affordability is the top of people's minds.
Here in the Tri state area for sure. On that
is the superintendent of Cincinnati Public Schools and Studio this morning,
Miss Shanna Murphy. Welcome, Harrio. Congratulations.

Speaker 7 (35:24):
I'm wonderful, thank you, Thank you so much for having
me and thanks for the congratulations.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
How nervous were you last Oh?

Speaker 5 (35:29):
Extremely nervous.

Speaker 7 (35:31):
I don't take any of this for granted, you know,
And as you just said, there is a lot going
on with our economy. There's a lot going on with housing.
And I am just deeply appreciative of the people of Cincinnati.

Speaker 5 (35:42):
They have spoken. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
You had nearly seven and ten putters, like like, almost
seventy percent support on this thing, and that's striking considering
what we've talked about. I've talked about this commissioner release,
a ree and the Denise Treehouse about property tax or
rollbacks and the property tax, and you know, values are
going up ten to fifteen, twenty percent or what and
people see them go listen, I only have so much
money here. I can't continue to give. And yet you know,

(36:05):
two thirds of voters more two thirds came out and said, yeah,
I want to pass this levy. What does that say?

Speaker 5 (36:10):
Yeah, that's right. That's huge.

Speaker 7 (36:11):
Right, So my team tells me that that may have
been a record for us. We'll double check the final
numbers there. But yeah, with all the rollback information going on,
because hey, I am a lifelong Cincinnatian and I also
understand and experience and have felt my property taxes. But
you know, I think people are valuing pre K to
twelve education. I think the fact that this is a

(36:34):
renewal was on our side. And don't take for granted
all of the decisions people have to make in terms
of anything from feeding their families and making sure they
can pay their property taxes.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Well, let's talk about that forty eight mil. Fifteen is
for preschool and the rest the other thirty three millions
like college reading, this career readiness programs, things like that. Technology.

Speaker 5 (36:56):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 7 (36:58):
So this levy, this real levy, is done in partnership
with Cincinnati Preschool Promise. Cincinnati Preschool Promise is a great partner,
and they do get fifteen million of what was decided
out of the forty eight million last night. Those go
to private providers that we partner with and we work with.

(37:18):
The remaining dollars do go to Cincinnati public school preschoolers.
It is a growing population in our school district, and
we're really grateful and we believe that the work that
we've done over the last several years, I believe this
started in twenty sixteen lends itself to why voters are
supportive of those younger learners. It also goes to making

(37:38):
sure that we have the best technology in our classrooms,
that we have high quality instructional materials for our young people.
It goes towards workforce development and career and technical education.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Does some of this money will that be able to
offset some of the federal cuts we've seen?

Speaker 7 (37:55):
So, because this is a renewal, right, and we've had
this money since twenty sixteen or so, this has nothing
to do with any possible cuts that could come from
the federal government.

Speaker 5 (38:06):
Those are our title dollars.

Speaker 7 (38:08):
While we do use those for programming as well, reading programs,
math programs, this is a total separate budget. We want
to ride this high from the people of Cincinnati right
now and understand that come this spring, we probably will
have to deal with some adjustments from the feds.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Does it show you, too, Seana Murphy that the voters
were pretty up on how CPS is running the show
in that graduation rates are up college and career and
it's jumped as well, and this is like, Okay, they're
doing good work. We're going to reward them. Do you
see it that way?

Speaker 5 (38:38):
No question.

Speaker 7 (38:38):
And I have been a twenty seven year employee of
Cincinnati Public Schools and so very proud of the work
that's been done over the years. But especially in this season,
where there are difficulties and there are choices that families
have and they can make, they continue to choose Cincinnati
Public Schools. And I think that's because of the high
quality teachers that we have in our classrooms, the building

(39:02):
leadership that we have amongst our principles and assistant Principles
central office employees, And in spite of having to make
in the past year and a half or so eighty
million dollars in cuts, we continued to do more and
more with less, because it is about the kids at
the end of the day.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
And in addition that, I remember I had Ebolt done
many times on the show Sean Murphy and talked about
that whole restructuring process, and that was pretty ugly. We're
closing schools, were condensing and now that that has come
to fruition, you've closed what there's five new middle schools
and junior highs. Substantial change. Yeah, and did voters finally
see the plan on it, because there are a lot
of people are angry about that, as you know, prior

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to this happening.

Speaker 7 (39:44):
Yes, So let me tell you, in my first year,
we opened our first junior high and that idea came
out of the district's ad hoc committee. They did that
work for over an eighteen month period of time.

Speaker 5 (39:56):
The people said that they.

Speaker 7 (39:57):
Wanted to see junior highs in middle school and so
we had an opportunity my first year as superintendent to
open Schroder Middle School and that's what we did. What
we saw with Schroder Middle School is improved attendance, we
saw improved behaviors, and we saw improved academic achievement through
the state test. And so this year we opened five

(40:19):
additional middle schools and junior highs and working really hard
to see the same, if not better results there.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
I know that there are number schools. Walding Hill's got
a five stars from three and a half stars. But
you know, the tough question for you is just still
fifty two percent of schools are below the state standard. Yes,
how do you make how do you make that? Is
it possible to move that needle? And I get why.
We'll get into the reasons why that is, but is
that fixible with money?

Speaker 7 (40:44):
So it's we're not where we want to be and
where we need to be, but we're headed in the
right direction. We are getting positive feedback. For example, you
just asked me about the middle schools and junior highs.
We're getting positive feedback from our students, from our staff,
and from our families who are actually involved in those schools.
And so we look forward to seeing great improvement, marked

(41:05):
improvement with our state test scores. So having that two
point five stars is an interesting story. There is a
range of scores that fall within that two point five mark.
We're headed in the right direction in terms of showing
improvement there. We'll keep doing that and we will get
to that three stars and above where we are self

(41:27):
sufficient and looking forward to getting there with the entire staff.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
I think, and I said, there's underlying things we don't
see maybe in other areas, in other districts, and that's
the absentee problem, chronic absenteeism. As you know as rough
whit it's like like forty five. Yeah, it's almost half
of the ad missing ten days or more and there's
many reasons behind that, but you can't control that as
an educator. You can't go and take kids at gunpoint
and bring them to school and force them. And that

(41:53):
you can't do that, how do you battle that?

Speaker 5 (41:54):
We continue to educate.

Speaker 7 (41:56):
So chronic absenteeism is ten percent of the school year,
and it is regardless of if there's an absence that
we excuse or not. So for example, I know young
people who have sickle cell anemia. Guess what on occasion
they may miss a period of time. There are times
during inclement weather days where we may say we're going
to have school. Well, depending on where you live, because

(42:16):
we're covering fifty two neighborhoods and additional municipalities. It may
be super clear for the kids going to Hayesport one day,
but then an entirely different look in terms of the
streets where the kids in Silverton go to school. And
so sometimes a parent may say, you know what, I'm
going to keep my kid home because my sidewalk, my
cul de sac is not as clear as I needed

(42:36):
to be guess what that counts against us in terms
of chronic absenteism. But I support parents making the best
decision for their family, so we continue to educate.

Speaker 5 (42:46):
There used to be a time when I was growing up.

Speaker 7 (42:48):
Maybe you're out of school for a dental appointment in
the morning, and maybe a parent will decide we'll keep
them out for the entire school day. We're encouraging parents
to bring your kid for that second half of the
school day because every hour, every minute counts.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
She's Seana Murphy, She's the CPS heading CPS, the superintendent,
and won a huge levey yesterday's as a Renault Levey
forty eight million dollars. And I mentioned too before we
got into the air, It's like, wow, Lakota, that's a
half billion, forty eight million dollar renewal. Is nothing compared
to a half billion dollar levee. And that's I don't
know how you overcome that. I really really, I mean,

(43:23):
you've followed because it's your business, Shan followed it. What's
your take on that is it's just too much?

Speaker 7 (43:28):
Well, if that were me, it would be immediate conversations
starting today with the people of that area. And so
I wish them the best. It is really hard work,
really tough work. I commend the superintendent for putting out
there what the need is. That's exactly what we did,
and I'm only grateful that the people of Cincinnati said

(43:50):
yes to us last night.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Yeah, yeah, and yeah, it's a well earned win. But
I think it's if you weren't making progress, it wouldn't
be happening, right. I agree with you an Thok about
chronic captainteeism scores, and there's schools that are our way
under failing rate, and it's a whole host of different
problems in the city than it is in the burps.

Speaker 5 (44:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (44:05):
Well, we do have the number one state in the
number one school in Ohio. We do have the best
performing arts school. We do have elementary schools that are improving.
We do have a school for gifted and exceptional children
that enrollment is growing because of some changes that we
made with our growth plan. And so we do have

(44:27):
athletes who are selling, We have artists who are doing really,
really well. We are increasing our career and technical education
experiences for young people. We have something for everyone, and
we have a space for everyone.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
One of the other elements of this too, I wonder
how this is IFIs factored at all in the parent's decision.
Is another controversial thing with transportation, right taking the seventh
and twelfth graders and put them on Metro busses alike.
Was that the right move in retrospect? I mean you
had to make that move financially speaking.

Speaker 7 (44:54):
Yeah, so let's start at mister Song. Financially speaking, every
Yellow Bus student it is about three thousand. Every Metro
student is about three hundred dollars, and so we had
to be fiscally responsible knowing that that was an option.
So actually two years ago we put the majority of
our seventh graders back on the Metro, and this past
year we put our remaining schools maybe there were about

(45:15):
four schools or so with seventh and eighth graders and
the shift to the middle schools in junior highs, and
so we did have some experience in that area.

Speaker 5 (45:23):
We've worked very closely with Metro.

Speaker 7 (45:26):
We meet with them and talk with them on a
regular and consistent basis. When we do run into problems, hey,
we start the conversation and we problem solve together.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Juvenile crime has been a problem, especially the summer months
when when those hands are off but it's been a
year on and we changed the metro cards in order
to say you can't come downtown and off hours. This
is for school and for school only. What else have
you done behind the scenes. Maybe we haven't heard about that.

Speaker 7 (45:48):
Hell yeah, absolutely so with the metro cars, we do
cut them off a little bit earlier. We do have
cars that designate whether a kid should need to transfer.

Speaker 5 (45:58):
We have reduced it to a minute.

Speaker 7 (46:00):
I'm a number of kids who have to transfer, and
no more than one transfer. In addition to that, we're
a positive school culture district. So we teach, and we
reteach and we restore. Kids make mistakes. People make mistakes.
They do mess up. Sometimes it's a particular population of
the student body that it's very visible for. But I

(46:20):
am grateful for the community partners who have helped us
in reducing some of the issues that we solved two
years ago, three years ago, and so we'll continue to partner,
We continue to work on it, and we continue to
work together.

Speaker 5 (46:33):
It takes all hands on decks.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
You're going to solve it by any means, and there's
going to be a certain percentage you're not going to
be able to reach. It's just human nature. But I
think people voters probably appreciated the fact and that nuance
that improvements we're being made now is it's still too high. Yeah,
but again I look at it and say, there's only
some that you can control. I mean a lot of
this happens at home too. You can't go at people's
houses and raise the kids either.

Speaker 7 (46:54):
I feel like this worked with young people in terms
of getting them educated as a home school community partnership,
and when that breaks down, then we have trouble. Right now,
I am very, very encouraged by the level of communication
with home, with school, with community. We will continue to
dig into that and make this city the best city

(47:16):
it can be.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
All Right, So you got another ten years. What happens
in the next ten years?

Speaker 8 (47:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (47:21):
So wan, So the next ten years, guess what think
about those three year olds? Okay, they'll be thirteen in
their middle school days, which is the area that we're
working to develop and strengthen. It should be a better
outlook for them. Then that means they're headed to high school.
And then we look towards graduation day. My favorite days
of school. There are two, the first day of school

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and graduation day. There's nothing more fulfilling than seeing a
young person go across that stage, get their diploma and
head into being employed and listed in the military or
enrolled in the college or university of their choice.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
Or trade school or trade school. Absolutely a big proponent
of the trades myself. I'm involved with groups that do that,
and I know personally for Sam because the group I
was in till recently, in Spirit of Constructions, we are
programs in Woodward and it's like in thirty something schools
right now, because I mean, let's face it, we lose
lost so many kids, generations of kids because we only
taught one way to learn. And now it's like applied

(48:18):
mathematics or physics or all the things that you would learn.
Now I can touch it seat and feel it. I
have an incentive to go to school. I feel like
I'm connected now and not, you know, some sort of
freak because I don't understand when we put numbers and
letters together like I did with algebra, I'm like, I'm out.
I don't know what that means.

Speaker 7 (48:33):
No, you're living out your dream. You're doing what you want.

Speaker 5 (48:35):
To killing to you.

Speaker 7 (48:37):
And I was blessed to be able to start eleven
years at Woodward Career Technical High School where we train
kids and how technologies feel, building construction fields and advanced manufacturing.
We grew that out this year we added entrepreneurship. You
know why because the kids that I want to know
how to be an entrepreneurial business and we are looking
forward to adding even more programming in terms of having.

Speaker 5 (49:01):
Automotive is another area.

Speaker 7 (49:03):
That kids are asking all that stuff back, bringing those
pieces back.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
One of the one of the biggest mistakes I think
was doing a farming that out and not that you know,
the Oaks system is great, but you know, having an
in school is good. We got to get go on
you do. To Seanna Murphy, CBS Superintendent, thanks again for
coming in. Congradulation, pleasure. Thank you SNY with News on
the Way and Julie on the job next seven hundred.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
Helping you navigate the rocky path of fulfilling employment. Here's
our career sure, Julie Balki.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Yeah, she jumped on the show every Wednesday morning a
little career tune up, and I think today, Julie, this
would be a great day to in the office or
worklow whatever it is. Talk about the election. A lot
to your co core and get take a firm stand
on one side or the other and espouse your political
views and call them stupid for announcing it your way.
I think that's a great strategy.

Speaker 6 (49:52):
There really is where where put flags up on your desk,
where your hat you're starts this pumping these people taunt people.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Yeah, yeah, I would totally think about doing that right now. Like,
you know, if you're a Democrat and you want, i'd
be like, you know, getting in someone's face. And then
if you're a Republican you lost and yelling at people
how you're ruining the country. I think that's a good
I think that's solid, a solid strategy for workplace, the
workplace environment. I think it's a good idea. Yeah, some
people will be doing.

Speaker 6 (50:17):
That, tod Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. What's not
what's not?

Speaker 4 (50:21):
What's not? Say we did?

Speaker 2 (50:22):
My dad used to say, good lord, there's people that
do that stuff. I don't know. I don't know. All right,
So Amazon's laying off like fourteen thousand corporate employees. We're
back to the AI topic. The biggest corporate job cuts
in history. I believe of Amazon, they could affect in
the upwards of thirty thousand employees. So you cut me
fourteen thousand, it's gonna affect thirty thousand overall. And it's

(50:43):
not just unique to Amazon Metas did it, Microsoft, Google.
Tons of companies are doing Kroger, maybe for different reasons.
I don't know if that's AI related or not. But
the bottom line is companies can grow to the revenue
with fewer employers because of AI. That's really what's going
on here.

Speaker 6 (51:00):
Yeah, it's interesting because we have all these these several
things that are true at once that are conflicting. One
of the things I was reading this article about the
Amazon laffs from fourteen thousand, now, like you said, but
up to thirty thousand. It's so that here's their official statement.
We want to get even stronger by further reducing bureaucracy,
removing layers, and shifting resources to ensure we're investing in

(51:23):
our biggest bet and what matters most to our customers,
curt and future needs. It's so interesting because I think,
you know, you push that too far, you won't have
any customers because people won't be able to afford what
it is you're selling.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
You know, what are we doing?

Speaker 6 (51:38):
And I get the idea of every company I was reading,
you know, all this, all these companies saying we're going
to continue to grow, including Walmarts is saying we're going
to continue to grow, but we're going to keep our
employee count flat, which means AI. Of course, the companies
have it fully figured out how to use it, but
it also means shifting more work onto the people that

(52:01):
are left onto the people that are left behind, and
people are already saying I've had enough, I'm highly stressed.
I don't want to take time off. I want to
hang on to this job. And so it turns into
a workforce that is an efsence thank you start going
to have.

Speaker 8 (52:18):
Another right, and that is a really really, really long term,
bad long term strategy because people aren't humans, you know,
kind of this guy that came out and said the
quiet part out loud a couple of months ago, talking
about AI, he said, yeah, I'm looking forward to replacing
people with AI because robots don't talk back, robots don't.

Speaker 6 (52:40):
Take time off. I'm like, okay, you know that's really
because we talk about the challenge of leaving a workforce,
the challenge of managing the challenge of dealing with people's
issues and problems, the stuff that if you are if
you've got a warehouse full of robot or just a

(53:01):
fully automated warehouse, you don't have to deal with those things.
You're dealing with things that can be fixed and that
can be fixed without dealing with the gray areas. People
they fill off on time they work, and so that's
there's almost like this this giddiness with some company leaders
saying how far can we prosh this? But you're you're

(53:22):
also you're also forgetting that when people are unemployed, homeless,
have nothing, they can't buy yourself.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
Yeah, so what are we answer?

Speaker 6 (53:33):
How do you know, how do you strike that?

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Right now?

Speaker 6 (53:35):
I certainly don't have any answer, but it's a big
question I think we need to deal with.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Well, I think the dynamic of automation makes stuff cheaper
because it's cheaper than labor. And I'm not saying that
is to be careless or cruel. That's just the fact
of it, right, is it? Ai? You're right, it doesn't.
There are no sick days, there's no hey, my my
kids home, I got to stay home. You know, you
do need people to do it, but you know, for
people to say, okay, well this is it. You know,
we're going to have to We're gonna get rid all
of these jobs and stuff. I'd say the global perspective,

(54:02):
big picture is, Look, there's always been technicological shifts, right,
There's always been a game changer out there. AI's latest
of that. You know how many people lost their jobs
when the automobile came along. That we're in, you know,
the livery business and livery and you know, horses and
barns and hay farmers and okay, horse are going away.
We've got the automobile. It just creates a new sector

(54:24):
of jobs, that's all.

Speaker 6 (54:26):
Yeah, it does, but I think it's going to create
less jobs.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
It'll be interesting.

Speaker 6 (54:31):
But when you look also at the demographics, fewer people.
I mean that birth rates are down and integration of
courses down, and so the number of people to do
those jobs is going to be less. So we have
to see how this is. We have to see how
this is going to play out. But it's really really confusing. Look,
if I was eighteen or twenty two, or my job

(54:54):
is going away. It's like everybody I talked to, no
one knows which way to turn. And all the experts
I thought are kind of or a little a little
uh loss too when it comes to what do you
tell people, what do you tell people to learn? What
do you tell people to mar it? Yeah, it's just
it's a very interesting shift. And we see read a

(55:15):
more article that was talking about how many new college.

Speaker 5 (55:17):
Grads because we've talked about for the.

Speaker 6 (55:19):
Bottleneck of the last couple of years with new college
grads not being able to find any what we used
to call white collar jobs, and they are, they are switching.
There's a movement to say, you know, I gotta work
and maybe I take and reskill towards the trades. And
so there's there's and it's healthy in some ways, but
we really are in the ugly parts of it where

(55:42):
we have there's all these competing factors that are really
that have people stopped. That's not just twenty five year olds,
but it's forty five and fifty five year olds that
still need to work, don't have the luxury of retiring.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Julie Belka our career Sure up on the Scotsland Show
seven hundred WW the Big AI moment here Amma's on
laying off fourteen thousand effect thirty thousand jobs, A bunch
of big tech companies are doing it, and I think
it's interesting that this is what the manufacturing industry went
through in the eighties, seventies and eighties, and that is
robotics coming in and replacing factory jobs and eventually that

(56:15):
those jobs got farmed out. But now the white collar
folks are seeing it because my parents blue collar folks.
They're like, hey, you're going to school, you have no choice. Okay,
I got thought through it. But at the same time,
I look at it going, yeah, this is what they
went through back in the seventies and eighties with automation.
This is just AI now taking white collar jobs. So
it used to be blue collar. Now white collar jobs

(56:36):
are getting hit by this.

Speaker 4 (56:38):
Yeah, and so you.

Speaker 6 (56:39):
Think it's this for demarcation between blue collar jobs and
white collar jobs.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
Right, how about the dogs?

Speaker 2 (56:46):
How don't we call them jobs the jobs?

Speaker 6 (56:48):
And yeah, if you are technically skilled, if you love
working with your hands, if you've got that, you may
be an engineer. You also might be an auto mechanic.
And that's okay. I think we have to get we
had to get our head out of this away from
this idea that there's one path in this country to
what we call success because that those days are long gone.

(57:10):
Just ask anybody who's out there with a four year degree,
who's been out of school for two years or less,
how they're feeling about this this path to you know,
this school, this golden brick road to success that they
feel like they were promised. You know, there are a
lot of cases are just they're so demoralized and just
can't seem to get a toe hold in the market.

(57:31):
And it's just, you know, it's it's I wish I
had the one you know, I wish I had the
one answer.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
But I'll bring it, Julie. I'll bring this back to
politics for a second. With mom. Danny went into New
York City. It's a lot of gen zers, younger millennials,
and these are young professionals, you know, world enough. Remember
back in the you know, like in the eighties when
you had the Reagan Republicans who took Wall Street and
everything else and greet Is Good and Gordon Gecko and
that was a huge wave and no one, Oh my god,

(57:59):
these young people and they want conservatism now, don't know
what that is. Fast forward a couple of generations, and
that's kind of what's happening in New York, and if
you look at that effect also Jersey, Virginia, hell leaving
here in Cincinnati, we saw Anderson Township flip blue, Fortel
school Board flip blue. So it's not just an outlier.
They're the big margins that city council, in particular, Raft
had pure vault won by despite all the you know,

(58:20):
the crime issues and the connected communities and Hyde Park
and all that stuff. The big picture on this when
it comes to job, I think there's just a bunch
of young people are angry and pissed off and are
so desperate they'd vote for a socialist because there's a
promise of a better life with them that they're not
seeing right now. I think that's translating what we're talking
about here, and that I did everything I was supposed
to do. I went to college's got a degree. Now

(58:42):
I've got debt, I can't afford anything. I've got roommates.
I should be living on my own. I'm frustrated. I'm
taking it out on capitalism. Is that kind of what's
going on?

Speaker 6 (58:50):
Yeah, there's definitely some of that because the young people,
when you look at so this past summer, we reached
that mark for gen Z outnumbered boomers at work, and
so every day that goes by more I mean duh,
more older people die and younger people become adults. And

(59:12):
so the world they grew up in, the world they
see right now is very different than the one you
and I saw. And they don't feel like they can
own a house, they can do this, they can do that,
and they're angry, and they aren't getting married, they aren't
having kids. I mean, there's a lot of that stuff
that goes on, and anything that the older generations do
that just feels like we're patting them on the head

(59:33):
and say just work harder, you know, feels.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Like right now, right I'm ready working. I've got a job,
I got side hustles, I got roommates, I can't work
any article. And not only that, health insurance is a mess.
I can't afford that. I got college dead, I got loans,
I've got all this overhead, and I just can't seem
to save any money and get had. I totally get that.

Speaker 6 (59:53):
Yeah, yeah, And that's that's what we're starting to see that.
And I think politically it's just fascinating to watch because
as you see this generation get older and become more
aware of what's going on around them, like what their
possibility as and opportunities are. They will become more active,
whether it's in voting, whether it's running for office, just
like we talk about in the smaller microcosm of the

(01:00:15):
world the workplace. It's I always say, the more younger
people get into leadership positions, the more they will embrace
hybrid work. They will reject return to the office. They
will they will do things their way, and that works
in the bigger picture as well. And so it's their world.

Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
I mean that.

Speaker 6 (01:00:35):
Boomers, you know, we're going to die sooner than they are,
and so they look around and say, it's the world.
What's the world I want it to be? And of
course we're going to tis and shake our heads, just
like the generations ahead.

Speaker 5 (01:00:47):
Of us did.

Speaker 6 (01:00:48):
But it's you know, there's no turning that back around.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
I mean, I know works right. It's like the younger
generation takes over and it's supposed to offend the sensibilities
of older generations. So that's the way it's always been.
I accept that, and I realize I'm in the the
back half of that. And watch, okay, well, as your
turnout to screw things up, and then you know, in
thirty years, your kids will be crapping on what you did,
and I'll probably go the other way, and so it.

Speaker 6 (01:01:08):
Goes Yeah, yeah, that's right. You know, it'd be interesting
to have a crystal ball and look ahead. Not sure
i'd want to, you know, I got to go both sides.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Yeah, I'm just doing an interesting experiment to see what
happens to New York with socialism, because those promises are
I think they're just promises, you know, all the stuff
he wants to impose. I don't think it's going to work,
but I get I get the desperateness of young people
going listen, I just I'm tired of the same bs.

Speaker 6 (01:01:30):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, and to feel like and when we
see this at work. So one of the ways that
organizations are really failing here is they're still leading from
the top down, pats on the head, I'll tell you
what to do, instead of engaging with and getting the
ideas of everybody. And that's what the younger generations want.
They do have good ideas, and it is their workplace

(01:01:53):
they're building, and so anything that smacks of i'll tell
you what to think, I'll tell you what to do.
Do as I say, not as I do is immediately
rejected by the younger generations. They're so they can snip
out in authenticity so quickly. Where we, you know, frankly,
kind of did what we were told.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's definitely a cultural shift America's driving
with the AI thing is I think the next thing
is like, well, wait a minute, I did it on
a sister, I got a degree, and now I'm gonna
get a reply. I can't get a job because AI.
And that's going to cause people to act the way
they did when it comes to voting and getting involved
in the in the process and those two that are
tied together. It's a workplace and also your vote. Julie

(01:02:32):
Bouki our career Shirpound in the Scott Sloane Show every
Wednesday morning. She's at the Bauki Group. She's a career
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She's got you. Jewels, all the best, have a great week,
all right, with that news update in just minutes here
on the Big one seven hundred WLW veryly as the
election fallout. I'll have more on this. Jeff Weckbach here

(01:02:53):
from Coloring Townships, the administrator there. They a levy their
past and they've been trying to do this for like
ten years and get a new police levy for Coleraine Township.
I know we focused a lot on the actual job
of politicians, right and whether it's city council or the
mayor's office or whatever. But we had a lot of
financial issues out there, money issues and initiatives, and the

(01:03:14):
CHLORI one passed. They just had Seana Murphy on about
a half hour ago. An hour ago, actually, Shaun was
in studio CPS superintendent about their big win. And you
look at what happened in places like Lakota, the laws
big that I think was just too big an ask
for the folks in Lakota quite honestly, half billion dollars
or just forty eight million for Cincinnati, and that was
just a renewal. But he's coming up in just a

(01:03:34):
few here. We'll talk about the financial side of that thing,
and also kicking around what happened last night with AFTAD
perrival not only winning but also winning by almost eight
and ten voters voted for AFTAD Puerval, despite what happened
to the chief, despite the crime, despite the violence, despite
the connected communities in Hyde Park, he overwhelmed by an
overwhelming margin and certainly by all stretching accounts, that is

(01:03:57):
a mandate eight out of ten voters. Question is now
how to govern with that? You know? Do you simply go, Okay,
we're going to continue to do the way things we
are doing with crime and just let things slide. And
apparently voters didn't care about that. In granted, you know,
some people will portray Cincinnati as a dystopian hellhole and
all near all fifty two neighbor it's not. It's certain
sections at certain times in particular crimes. But these high

(01:04:19):
profile crimes definitely hurt Cincinnati and help it hurts the
people who want to build on there. At a gentleman
on yesterday, they want to shot that video around the
nightclub and you know, finding a gun laying in the
in the grass literally steps away from the shots were fired.
This is a guy trying to invest in downtown and
build and make affordable housing and everything else. And you know,
when you have that in your backyard, it makes it

(01:04:41):
awfully tough to rent. So those are the uphill battles
this new consul is facing and not all the other
thing too, is not really a new council. Two people
are new because of the two seats that are missing.
Everything pretty much stayed the same. I think that's the
most interesting takeaway here. We'll get into that much more
just ahead, as the fall of continues this Wednesday, plus
the death toll and Louisville with the ups crash yesterday
late late yesterday afternoon and early evening is now at nine.

(01:05:03):
Governor Bsher saying there's still sixteen people on accounted for.
I got can you imagine at lays down all this
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hundred w WELWT. Coming off the big election last night,
A big shocker of course, across the border. It came
to the political party in control. Let be the Democrats

(01:05:26):
all the way from the east coast in Jersey, all
the way through Anderson Township and school boards. More on
that later on, but those are some interesting levy issues
out there in cole Rain last year handled some fifty
thousand calls a service last year a number of high
profile crimes as well. And in the past two attempts
of voters in Colorin Township did not approve a funding
levee for police. Yesterday, fifty three percent of voters said yes, yes,

(01:05:51):
we need a police levey. Jeff Weckboch is here is
the administrator of Coloring Township. Welcome to the show. Good morning,
and congratulations morning Scott.

Speaker 9 (01:06:00):
Thanks for having us.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
Yeah, yeah, appreciate it. It's been more than a deccan,
I believe since the last level was approved. So the
last one, as I recall, five year funding levey, and
you stretched that out twice as long as it should
have been. Why did it win this time?

Speaker 9 (01:06:15):
You know, that's a great question. I think we listened
after the past two failures and we heard a lot
of feedback from the residents about where we should be
prioritizing funding and what we should be putting dollars toward.
And we took that to heart and we put a
lot of our dollars from our general fund into our
police departments. And you know, we then started to focus

(01:06:38):
on making sure that we were appropriately responding to crime
with the resources we had, and I think that that
certainly helped letting the residents see that our level of
service is where they wanted it to be, so that
they could trust us to continue to provide that level
of service for five more years.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
But you think too that, you know, fifty thousand calls
for service is pretty significant for the size of call
rain and what's been happening when the residents call nine
point one has been staffing issue? Have people notice that, like, hey,
we need to fund the police department here because the
service times are getting Has that been an issue there?

Speaker 9 (01:07:12):
Yeah, I'd say that's probably a little bit of what
was going on. So after the last two levees, we
did have to make some cutbacks in terms of what
we responded to and how we could respond with our
current officer complements and when you break down shift schedules
and all that fun stuff and different designations, we typically
run about six officers on the street at any one time,

(01:07:33):
and so when you start to do the simple map
on fifty thousand calls a year, you know, our officers
are just responding from call to call to call, and
not all calls are created equal. Some calls are going
to require two to three officer responses, some are going
to require one. And you know, the priority is always
going to be the response to the calls that are
going to have the greatest impact on safety. And so

(01:07:54):
that may have meant that some of our lower level
calls we're getting pushed down on sort of the scale
actual and we were responding to them when we were
able to, as opposed to immediately.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
And as it's approved, I believe you're going to get
seven more officers. There's additional patrol beat that will happen,
more traffic enforcement and obviously is what you're talking about,
faster response times and quicker turnarounds when it comes to
solving cases or working cases, and you can be a
little bit more pre out, proactive. Give some breathing room here.
A relative to the seven officers, how quickly can you
get them on the ground and what's that timeline that

(01:08:28):
for trying.

Speaker 9 (01:08:30):
We've got a great team internally that because of some
of the culture things that they've done, they've been out
and about and I have full confidence that they're going
to be able to recruit and fill those positions pretty quickly,
probably within three to six months we'll be able to
have those positions filled, and then you're looking at another
three months or so to actually get them up to

(01:08:50):
speed and getting those officers deployed into our community. So
within the year, I fully expect we'll be up and
have those some positions all filled.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
What's the additional patrol beat? What is that?

Speaker 9 (01:09:03):
Yeah, so right now we have five dedicated patrol beats.
We're going to be creating a sixth. What this is
going to do is allow us to keep a car
more in Western coal Raine. Right now, if there is
a call that requires a second car to respond to,
oftentimes we're having a pool from different parts of the community.
This is going to allow us to keep an officer
out there more frequently. So by having that extra patrol beat,

(01:09:25):
just the extra boots on the ground to respond to
crimes and be responsive and proactive in.

Speaker 8 (01:09:30):
What we do.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
Jeff Weckbach, Administrative for Colorine Township and the Levy Pass there.
Third time is the charm, I guess, so you're going
to get more policing, more money for police. Do you
think that what's happening in Cincinnati and the city relative
to crime there and high profile crimes and the fact
that you're two hundred cops short and a lot of
candidates made a lot of hay out and didn't get elected,
but made hay on. It certainly got everyone's attention. Have

(01:09:52):
been the big story for the second half of the
year's crime in Cincinnati. Did that help voters in Chlorine
Township push them in this direction? You think?

Speaker 9 (01:10:01):
You know, I'm not sure what the individual voters were
going through as they were kind of at the ballot box. Sure, certainly,
I know we we like to focus on making sure
that we're keeping our community safe, right, and so that
was the biggest message we were bringing home is that
this this levee, if it were to pass, is going

(01:10:21):
to help not only keep col Rain safe, but help
us become a safer community.

Speaker 6 (01:10:26):
In the long run.

Speaker 9 (01:10:26):
Yeah, and you know, my expectation is we'll be doing
that by adding some police officers to the force and
being able to retain what we've got.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
I think if you able to call right and you
look at that and go, wow, if we neglect funding
our police services, that that could be where we're had.
I could totally see someone Chlorine thinking that way, because
I mean, you mentioned the staffing shortage is alike, it's
hurt your ability to investigate them and solve some of
these whole high profile crimes. Not that you're not, but
it just takes longer. You can't be as proactive and

(01:10:54):
when you look at what's going on the state, I
can't help as a resident going all right this, So
you know, we probably need to fund the police here.
We don't want to run in the problems that they're
having in the city. I think voters maybe in the
polling place made that connection for your talking. I don't
know what, forty eight bucks a year whatever, whatever it is,
like that seems to be worth it to me. It's
kind of a low buy in.

Speaker 9 (01:11:14):
Yeah, and you know, at the end of the day,
we've got some specialized units, right, so we've got the
impact units. Their focus is on those high profile crimes.
And over the past several years they've taken enough bent
and all and other things off the streets in Cold
Rain that that could have really really harmed our residents.
You know, the volume that they've actually gotten off the
streets was enough that could have killed every resident in

(01:11:36):
Cole Rain if everybody were to ingest it all at
the same time. So they've they've certainly had an impact
to the name of their unit. And you know, because
of this levee, we're going to be able to continue
to do more of those things to be proactive and
actually curb the crime, to hopefully keep it all out
of Colrain.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
Are you going to see more of that then as
a result of.

Speaker 9 (01:11:55):
This, I think so yeah. I mean you're going to
see any time that you're ranning on right, you're going
to see sort of an uptick in some of your numbers,
just initially because you are making more stops, you are
finding and solving more of those cases up front. And
then the idea is that the message starts to get
out right that if you're going to do bad things
in col Rain, you're going to be found and so

(01:12:16):
hopefully then that just naturally deters that crime from our community.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
Yeah, this is in a rare view, but if the
levee had failed instead of passed yesterday, what kind of
cuts what would you have seen?

Speaker 9 (01:12:28):
Yeah, I mean, our our trustees were going to have
some pretty significant conversations about what they would have had
to do, because you can't skill a four to five
million dollar gas just overnight without some major programmatic changes.
If they wanted to do that all in the police department,
that would have been probably a third of the apartment.

(01:12:48):
I don't think that would have been the direction they
would have gone, which would have meant that they would
have had to look at other things, right, So that's
taking a look at, you know, whether that's our road
program or our part and cutting back there or cutting
back and what we do in terms of senior services.
There was a whole litany of things that they would
have had to wade through and make policy decisions on.

(01:13:09):
So basically looking at anything that is supported through the
general fund is what they would have had to have done.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
Yeah, it would have been ugly, I think, and I
think voters saw, hey, listen, they stretch this thing twice
as long as it should have been. And of course
we know the cost of everything is going up. You
have not only officers to pay and benefits to give,
but also there's a lot of material things like like
you know, patrol and equipment, the hard stuff too. The
price of that has gone through the roof.

Speaker 6 (01:13:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:13:36):
Well, and we didn't have body camps back in twenty
fourteen when we left cast eleven, So I mean even
that yeah, and we've seen those costs go up, you know,
year over year. But those are things that just weren't
on our books that are now now.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
This thing passed Jeff black Bock fifty three percent. Not
it wasn't a It was enough to win obviously too,
but there wasn't a mandate.

Speaker 4 (01:13:55):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
What would you say to the forty seven percent of
people who voted against us, how do you prove to
them this investment was worth it?

Speaker 4 (01:14:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:14:03):
I think what we're going to do is we're going
to prove that this investment was worth it over the
next five years. This this levee was one that sunsets
in five years, so you know, the mandate and the
message which I actually sent a message out to our
team this morning, was just that we've got five years
to show that, you know, we're one of the best
police departments in this country and proved to these residents

(01:14:25):
that they're worth every dollar that they're paying. And I
fully believe and expect that our department is going to
come through and that they're going to do amazing and
incredible work because I've seen it day in and day out,
even in response to the past two failures that you know,
we're going to make this thing happen, and we're going
to make make cole Rain a better place.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
I don't know if either one of us will be
around then, but in you know, five ten years, as
this saying extend your stistics expires, how do you how
do you sell it at that point? And it'll be
entirely different political feel I'm sure too, but you know
you learn from the first two how do you not
do this again?

Speaker 4 (01:15:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:15:04):
So the nice part is at that point it would
be a renewal levy in five years, right, that's a
little bit of a different conversation and increase. And beyond that,
we'll be looking hard at our track record over the
past five years and being able to point to the
results improving what we did with those dollars that the
public can trust it to us to do what we're

(01:15:25):
promising here, which is to make Colrain in a safer place.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
Yeah, because as said, you know, certainly it's not a
hotbed for crime, but we're starting to see things happen
in Chlorine that we haven't seen in years past, and
I think that concerns long time residents there, especially as
you get older, you worry about public safety a lot
more than if you're younger, just because you're more risk averse.
That fits about right on the west side there in Chlorine.

Speaker 9 (01:15:49):
Yeah, and crime changes between crime change over the decades,
and it'll continue to change and evolve, and that's you know,
part of our mission is to make sure that we're
changing and evolving with it, that we're responding in the
best way.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
What's the biggest evolution you've seen over the past decade.
Let's say, when it comes to crime.

Speaker 9 (01:16:07):
It's different these days. I'd say that there's been a
lot of more property crime we've seen in Coal Rain,
and that's natural when you've got a very busy retail corridor.
You know, some of the crimes that we've seen with
things like the fake calls for school incidents, so that's

(01:16:28):
certainly been surprising, and those that eat up a lot
of resources, and so, you know, figuring out how we
can better address things like that, it's going to be
one of the challenges that we're going to have.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
As an aside, it seems like I haven't heard as
many of those these days. Are we starting to figure
out and separate in the fact from fiction?

Speaker 9 (01:16:45):
No, I mean, we take every call that we get
serious as possible, right, because if you don't, then you
don't want that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
It seems like I'm just saying it seems like the
slotting thing for a while, man, it was going on.
It was like once a week, twice a week in
some cases. And we haven't heard one of those instances
in a while, or are we just not reporting on
it because it's become commonplace. It's not news anymore.

Speaker 9 (01:17:04):
Well, I mean, whether it's swatting, bomb threats, those types
of things, right, there have been those incidents.

Speaker 6 (01:17:11):
I think it's just.

Speaker 9 (01:17:13):
What's going on in the community that day. So what
gets the headlines?

Speaker 4 (01:17:16):
Right? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
Yeah, Well, sadly it's a tremendous waste of resources, right
because you do have to respond if it's really you
suspect it's not, and that ties up a whole. They
just cost more money than money you don't have. Unfortunately,
you've got some breathing room now to add seven more
officers and create an additional patrol bead and see more
traffic enforcement out there. Give residents who voted for this

(01:17:37):
a sense that like, hey, this is my tax dollars
at work. I'm reluctant to pay more in taxes but
I realize that we have to fund the basic services
lest we fall into disrepair. And once you do that,
it doesn't become attractive and owner of property values fall
and it's not good for the community. So third times
a charm in Cole Rain. He is Jeff Weckbach, administrator
there in Cole Rain Township. Congratulations on the big, big

(01:17:59):
win last night.

Speaker 9 (01:18:00):
Yeah, well, thanks, Gott. I mean, my expectation is this
is a big win for the community. So we're going
to put these dollars to work and we're going to
make this.

Speaker 6 (01:18:08):
Place a better place.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
Yeah, I appreciate it. Be well, take care.

Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
It feels as more as politics might get out of control,
and you know, we send someone to DC or Columbus
or our local school board maybe and you feel like, wow,
this is not the person, This is not what I
voted for. A lot of people have that sense right now,
and which is why you're seeing a kind of a
mini repudiation of Trump to some degree, but largely because
of the economy. And the main issue is your pocketbook.

(01:18:33):
It's always been that way. Pocketbook is very, very important,
and if you feel like you're doing worse than you
were a year ago, you're going to take it out
on the incumbents. And we're seeing that across the country today.
That may change another year next elections, like who knows,
But at least in this here, I can control that
kind of money. I can control my police department. I
don't want to see what's happening in Cincinnati happening here.

(01:18:56):
And I understand the values of those who live in
urban Cincinnati much different than that in westside Coleraine Township.
But people see that and go, I don't want that
coming here, And I think that's why people just kind
of bit the bullet and voted for this thing. You know. Conversely,
you know there's a lot of school of these passed
as well. I look at what happened to Lakota kind

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of in my neck of the woods there, and that
doesn't surprise me, because, man, half a billion dollar ask
is a big, big ask. That's a lot of money.
And I understand that it's been kind of misreported that
these some of these buildings that they just build in
the nineties have to come down. That's not true. There's
some I guess, some annexation that's happening, and improvements that

(01:19:37):
were made in the nineties. But these are buildings that
go back, you know, fifty to seventy years, So it's
not like they're knocking over new buildings that were just built,
you know, twenty years ago, thirty years ago, which is
still pretty old in building new ones. Now these are
way past their way past their expiration date. And yeah,
when you let it go like that and don't vote
for the levee, it's just going to continue. Next one

(01:19:58):
will be even bigger because they want to fix it
all and won't and fell swoop. I think that also
sends a message to I mean, look at CPS. Their
Levey issue passed and passed quite handily as well, because
you know, despite what we think of CPS, they made
some inroads here, maybe not to our liking in particular.
And if you live in an area where the school
district you probably look, you down your nose at it.

(01:20:19):
Not all the schools and CPS are trash by far.
There's a lot of good schools that to produce good results.
Biggest issue you have in the city of Cincinnati more
so than in the suburbs. In fact, his attendance. I
don't know how you control that. If you're the school
you can't force the kid to go to school. We
know you have to go to school, but it's not
like the teachers and administrators can show up at somebody's
house and drag them, kicking and screaming to school. That's

(01:20:41):
a huge issue there. It certainly is an interesting election
to follow. Will continue to know Cunningham will take over
twelve or sixty day. I will point out the fact
that all the candidates that Willy endorsed failed, So yeah,
we have another elections local election cycle. He did back
Trump and Trump once, so I'll give him. Okay, I
got that one. But man, your local politician, I got

(01:21:01):
Willy's endorsement. How's that working out for you? He's like
the Beangles of politics. Scott Sloan seven hundred w W
yelling at me.

Speaker 5 (01:21:19):
Your drums are blown out. But I love to share
with me what your doctor was saying about Peppa Pig
the other.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
No, it was my So I'm had my foot surgery
and I'm doing a little physical therapy on that. Get
my proprioception back then, Wait the what proprioception? Okay, proper
reception working on my appropriate reception.

Speaker 5 (01:21:42):
How's your appropriate exception?

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
Sitting there I've always had good propriate reception.

Speaker 5 (01:21:45):
Good, appropriate exceptions, appropriate, very good.

Speaker 4 (01:21:48):
Uh No.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
There was a conversation with eaves Drop and I Love
being a Fly on the Wall and they were talking
about one of the pt uh the therapists was talking
about it's just like a Peppa Pig, which makes you know,
my curiosity pigs. I listened, it was like people, He's like,
I don't know how they get away with this. I
don't think it's like ultra you know, right winger, but uh,

(01:22:09):
He's like, I just every time I see the pigs,
it looks like something phallic. And the now they got
a new one is the old Grandpa pig and he's
got your chin hair and it looks like it's the
hair on.

Speaker 4 (01:22:23):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:22:26):
Why is Pepa Pig so controversial?

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
Pepa penis? I don't know. Is it the new Teletubbies?

Speaker 4 (01:22:34):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
Why?

Speaker 5 (01:22:35):
So you're thee We would put Pepa on a different
level than Teletubbies, like she's a little bit higher up.

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
I will say, tell a Tubbses the all time creepiest show.
It was just creepy.

Speaker 5 (01:22:45):
It was awful.

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
My kids were that age when it came out and
they didn't. They're like, I don't want to watch the baby. Yeah,
it was just creepy, just weird, just a weird.

Speaker 5 (01:22:55):
I've never done drugs, but I would imagine that watching
Teletubbies is kind of like you're on some sort of drug.
I'm like, this doesn't feel like it's of this world.
And what were they anyways, aliens.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
I'm just trying to how he's see. I'm looking at
images of the Peppa Pig and the whole family right now,
and I just don't see the junk. Looks like that.
You may have to see to have problems with your proprioception.

Speaker 5 (01:23:19):
Nonetheless, that's just another penis commercial on these airwaves.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
Just keep them coming, a bunch of guys dancing around
in some square to Farmers Markets, singing about some drug that.

Speaker 5 (01:23:30):
We have so many on here. Just add another one
to the meg all right, let's not.

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
Let's not. You're happy that the Dodgers won the World Series.
I don't. It's almost sense and anything. Ever, I don't
understand how that is my brain marked by the Dodgers.
That makes it okay if the Dodgers won the World Series. No,
it doesn't.

Speaker 5 (01:23:46):
So I was salty and I was rooting for for
the Dodgers as an angry Ruds fan because I'm like,
all right, if you're gonna lose to anyone, it might
as well be the World Series champs. So this whole
run of the World Series, I have been rooting for
this team and I'm glad they got it done in
Game seven was awesome. It gave us everything.

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
That I stayed up to watch. It was really really good.
I mean the fact that, uh, they want tying it
in their half of the ninth and then they pull
it and then it's extra innings And can we talk about.

Speaker 5 (01:24:18):
How incredible the Dodgers pitching is Yamamoto? Do you think
he wants to play for the Cincinnati Reds?

Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
Would you like that? Their lineup is killer?

Speaker 5 (01:24:28):
It's amazing what money can buy.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
Was gonna win it because it was like Rondy A.
Kirk Gibson back in the day, it's can't hurt, yeah, job,
and like, oh man, this is gonna be an awesome
finish for the Jays.

Speaker 5 (01:24:38):
Got it done in Toronto.

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
I was late. I wanted to win really well, grown up?

Speaker 5 (01:24:44):
Were you mad at the Dodgers?

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
Because I'm old enough to know when that when so
I was a I don't know, as a kid when
Toronto got franchise. Okay, I grew up in Buffalo, so
it's like ninety minutes just like you.

Speaker 5 (01:24:55):
Oh that makes sense for you. Done.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
Yeah, But I was like a Yankees fan and that too,
grown and a Reds fan has always been my National
League team. I love the Reds more than both those teams.
But yeah, I was like, okay, kind of got into
the Jay's because there's a proximity there, and then they're
Triple A teams in Buffalo, so okay, yeah, yeah, I
was kind of pulling for the J's a little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:25:11):
The numbers.

Speaker 2 (01:25:12):
I just always always hated the Dodgers.

Speaker 5 (01:25:14):
I feel like a lot of people do hate the Dodgers,
but damn, they're so good. They're so entertaining. I love
watching these guys play. Is so impressive on every single level.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
Are good.

Speaker 5 (01:25:26):
The World Series numbers are in, Yes, twenty five point
nine million people tuned into Game seven.

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
What does that mean.

Speaker 5 (01:25:33):
It's a lot of people, It's all I know, think
about twenty five point nine million people.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
Okay, it's a.

Speaker 5 (01:25:40):
Lot of people watching.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
I don't know if that's like, you know, top one hundred.

Speaker 5 (01:25:43):
I would say that's pretty good. More people tuned into
that than NBA. Joe Burrow is alive and well, I
guess I'm assuming he was at the Bengals Halloween party
on Monday night. The dude never posts on social media,
so as soon as he posts, Bengals go crazy. So
go to Joe Burrow's Instagram and read the comments on

(01:26:04):
his latest post, because they do not disappoint. He dressed
up as the Joker. Oh, and the caption says, I
did my own makeup and he had a carousel of
like four or five different picks. But it's it's the
comments that you got to read.

Speaker 10 (01:26:17):
Really, how good was a makeup? He did a pretty
good job Joker. I don't think he did his own
makeup though. This looks like it was professionally done. Whether
it was, I don't know. It just looks like a
really good makeup job.

Speaker 2 (01:26:31):
Got his mom and dad and studio in a couple.
I think next week can we talk about that, I'll
ask him.

Speaker 5 (01:26:36):
Can we break the news about that though, about the
Joe Burrow Foundation or are you waiting until they're in
studio because they did post it on their social media?

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
Can you talk about that with the make Yeah, they're
sponsoring Marty gar here. I'll be king again and Sarah
will be out there. So Martha almost kids.

Speaker 5 (01:26:50):
I thought that was really exciting. I'm glad to have
him a part of it. Yes, So we'll be talking
to them soon and that'll be here before you know it.
Fat Tuesday, February seventeenth. I'm I'm seeing it this year
with our guy Tom Brenneman.

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
No doubt about it too. He wanted to depose me
of my kingdom.

Speaker 5 (01:27:06):
Like you've been here the five it's been five months.

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
I get fired.

Speaker 5 (01:27:12):
They're going to make you hang out with me all night, slowney,
you said it, not me. I'm glad that Thomas is here.

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
I love Tom. Yeah great, but then he starts jumping
on me because I'm King of Marty growl like you
just hold you just sometimes.

Speaker 5 (01:27:27):
You got to keep people in check around here. You
make a comment, you got to get a right.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
He's trying to big leg me.

Speaker 5 (01:27:33):
He doesn't want to hang out with me for like
five hours on stage. I get it could be a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
I could totally see that. Sarah is a smart report.
This morning, she's over for meb and the kid Christian.

Speaker 5 (01:27:42):
Got a lot to talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
Why are you delaying the inevitable?

Speaker 5 (01:27:46):
Well, because you asked me about the World Series, so
we knocked that out. Then we talked about Joe Burrow
because it's trending. I mean, the Bengals didn't do a
whole lot, so there's not a lot to talk about.
But yesterday morning they didn't do a whole lot.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
I don't know anything round draft pick.

Speaker 5 (01:28:00):
Well, Logan Wilson complained about playing for the Bengals and
they said, see us that they sent him down to
Dallas to play for the Cowboys, and that's where he's
got happy.

Speaker 3 (01:28:09):
He's already making.

Speaker 5 (01:28:09):
Videos about how excited that he is to be playing
for the Dallas Cowboys, which are just as bad as
we are. We're going from one bad defense to the other.
So I don't know how this is like a big upgrade,
but I guess he knows something in the locker room
with the Bengals.

Speaker 2 (01:28:23):
Yes, there's a lot of guys that are not happy
right now. Guys now look at it, going, Wow, this
is I get out of here. I just got to
complain cool.

Speaker 5 (01:28:31):
As yes, yes, So in exchange seventh round draft pick
in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
Did they work hard? To mean, we don't even know
how hard they were working today.

Speaker 5 (01:28:42):
Were at the office?

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
We weren't there.

Speaker 5 (01:28:44):
I don't think that they were at the office.

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
Me guess. I think, you know what, we just need
to win. The coaches guys up a little bit, and
I cleaned clean some things up in practice, and I
think we're going to be okay. We can win with
this group because we've.

Speaker 5 (01:28:56):
Been doing a lot of winning this group. Yes, yes,
I'm so glad the bye is this weekend. I can't
handle another heartbreaking close loss like that where the defense,
the defense loses it for them again.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
I can't get blown out, is what you want? Just
go let's go back to the fifty two to three.

Speaker 5 (01:29:13):
I don't know which one's worse. It's all bad.

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
But he's in college football.

Speaker 5 (01:29:18):
But with Logan Wilson. He was in the locker room
yesterday saying his goodbye.

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
Oh you need to change a scene, really, I think so.

Speaker 5 (01:29:25):
He told the guys that he's just a phone call away.
Both Barrett Carter and Demetrius say that Logan was the
first to reach out to them when they were drafted,
and that they think he's a great guy. Yeah, so
saving two point five million in capsule.

Speaker 10 (01:29:38):
Eight, he's out.

Speaker 2 (01:29:38):
We got a seventh rounder for next year.

Speaker 5 (01:29:40):
So WHOA.

Speaker 2 (01:29:42):
How exciting building on something big, big, big here. I
will say that the market though, man, some of the
guys that went, you know, like Sauce going to the Colts,
that's two first round picture, that is a big move
for all. Well, that's a big as root team twenty
my first rounder in twenty six and twenty seven.

Speaker 5 (01:30:00):
But imagining Sauce, you're going from like the worst team
to the best, Yeah, that was big for him.

Speaker 2 (01:30:05):
It's pretty break. That's that's pretty big.

Speaker 5 (01:30:07):
So and he's talking to media, he said he's not
seeing our comments on social media.

Speaker 2 (01:30:12):
Yeah I don't care.

Speaker 5 (01:30:13):
He's like, I don't care. I'm not looking at the comments.
He says he doesn't pay attention to the trade rumors,
but he says when it comes to losing, he does
feel sick for the fans, especially the ones that are
showing up and sitting in the stands. So at least
he's aware. And I will say this for our beloved,
what do you think of Trey? What about what are
we doing? Eight games left with them and that's it.

(01:30:35):
All this money spent playing got this hit back.

Speaker 2 (01:30:38):
I guess I think they wanted too much for what
they were getting, and then the hip thing may have
had influence as well.

Speaker 5 (01:30:43):
I'm tired.

Speaker 2 (01:30:44):
You're tired. Yeah, and I've said this before, Sarah tired,
Sarah Lee.

Speaker 5 (01:30:49):
I want. I want this team to win.

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
The biggest pimp for the Cincinnati Bengals.

Speaker 5 (01:30:54):
I love my Bengals, I do, I always will, but
this is tough.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
On this day. Is wearing a Cincinnati reds connect hat.
That's how a dune she is with the Bengals.

Speaker 5 (01:31:03):
Because they're not losing, Okay, not losing. Everyone else is
losing right now. Well, we have our I mean, I
have hopes and season snati for this weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
Three guys get hurt on the by this week.

Speaker 4 (01:31:14):
I just.

Speaker 5 (01:31:17):
I mean, who's just said, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:31:19):
Did you see this to the top twelve, Yes, the
top twelve leaders and miss tackles in the NFL. Yes,
singles have the top three and I think number twelve,
So four of the top twelve a third of the
worst tackling one.

Speaker 5 (01:31:39):
Unbelievable is that where we're at one hundred and nine missed.

Speaker 2 (01:31:41):
It's going to be a record, It's going to be bad.

Speaker 5 (01:31:44):
This is a historic season, historically bad season. Do you
think do you think Joe Burrow is standing there on
the sidelines like, actually, I'm good over here. He can
moke this toe thing for as long as he wants, can't.
I mean, no one knows how bad the toe feels
except for Joe Burrow.

Speaker 2 (01:31:57):
I know he's got a thing. Is it's not the toe,
it's appropriate reception.

Speaker 5 (01:32:01):
It's appropriate reception. Yeah, there you go. Wait is that
the what is the propriate?

Speaker 2 (01:32:05):
A proper reception? It is the fun it's connected to.
You don't know what else you got.

Speaker 4 (01:32:10):
I do too.

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
I don't want to get into it because I don't
want to take away from your brilliance.

Speaker 5 (01:32:14):
All my brilliance here. I bring so much brilliance to
the airware. Now, this is just the crap that's trending
on social media, in case you're not on there. Like
my dad, who knows nothing about Twitter, X, Instagram or
Facebook while he's trying to he's trying to learn the
moment now that he's in retired, I dam it's just
so toxic. It is very toxic, especially since now the
Bengals fans are all kind of starting to turn on
each other. Everybody's arguing, Yeah, I wish I could just

(01:32:38):
get like the info and not all the drama. Tough day. Yeah,
tough day for news too, with everything going on in
the Leisvelle got me sick to my stomached terrible, and
I think those numbers just yeah, they just keep going up.
And now that the now that it's light outside and
seeing all the damage, not good.

Speaker 2 (01:32:54):
Not good.

Speaker 5 (01:32:55):
Eva McPherson was talking to media yesterday, just goes to
show like how good of a guy Logan Wilson is.
He said that they were a bunch of them we're
supposed to go to Disney World together. And he's like, well,
we'll still keep in touch. He's like, we're still going
to see each other a lot, even with him going
down to Dallas. Obviously, Evan macpherson not going anywhere, but
I would imagine you still go on the Disney World trip.
That takes a lot of planning to go to Disney World.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
Oh yeah, it's not cheap either.

Speaker 5 (01:33:16):
No, Christopher just went my co host kid Chris. Everything
everything is expensive.

Speaker 4 (01:33:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:33:22):
I took his daughter's for spring break. Okay, dude, I
think like a Mickey pretzel is going to set you back.
Twenty five bucks.

Speaker 2 (01:33:28):
Were in this. I have no interesting this would have
been in the I don't know. I think we went
in the early two in the two thousand, maybe you're
yeah right around there. It was like back then it
was like twenty bucks for coke. Oh, forget it, but
it's refillable, and you just like gladly hand your money
out and go, oh, we have no choice. The mouse
makes you just go, oh, here, take my cat. It's
like going to Vegas? What am I doing?

Speaker 5 (01:33:46):
What else are you gonna do? Where else are you
gonna go?

Speaker 2 (01:33:48):
What are you going to do? What are you gonna dope?

Speaker 5 (01:33:50):
Someone who's not showing up? Jermaine Burton missing practice again.
I guess there was a practice on Tuesday, and they
say he's missed several at this point due to some illness. Yeah,
Jermaine Burton. I think the illnesses he's probably sick of
playing for this team. I did notice the worst teams
are the more injuries happen. My toe hurts. I can't

(01:34:13):
show up. I can't do this anymore. This is tough.
But Tuesday's practice was just for the first and second
year of players. They say that Joe Burrow was on
site though, and he has been pretty available to you know,
the guys in the locker room, and it's not like
he's hiding or anything. So I don't know, do we
miss him who right? I mean, would the record be

(01:34:36):
any different right now with Joe Burrow. It's not like
Joe Blacko's not getting it done. I would say forty
two and thirty eight.

Speaker 2 (01:34:41):
Points are pretty good. The problem is you got a
you know, the player personnel guy slash GM whatever he does,
he doesn't have the autonomy to make moves. It's like
they're not going to do anything.

Speaker 5 (01:34:51):
Fire Duke.

Speaker 2 (01:34:52):
What are you going to fire Duke and bring another person?
I like, I don't know. The attitude's got to change, Like,
you know what, just because our grandfather, yeah, founded the league, basically,
it doesn't make his football geniuses. Yeah, we've got to
get people in Herris. So we've got to spend money
on scout, we have to spend money on player personnel.
We've got to spend money on the whole process of
getting more quality players in here. And then the Actually,

(01:35:13):
I think it's all some degree of coaching, because you know,
guys like now cam Sample for example, play fine in
college and then he get here and they can't tackle
all of a sudden, I like, I don't get that.

Speaker 4 (01:35:23):
Well.

Speaker 5 (01:35:23):
Zach Taylor is speaking very highly of his guy out Golden.
He says he's a great coach, he's got a great staff,
and he's done great things and he believes in them.
This is Zach Taylor's words. So Out ain't going anywhere.
Do you think he's going somewhere He's nuts, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:35:40):
It's I don't think it's I don't think it's I
really don't.

Speaker 4 (01:35:43):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:35:44):
I think it's al I think it's way up the
food chain there.

Speaker 5 (01:35:46):
And I do think that there is a problem. There
is some toxicity in that locker room too, which is said,
I don't think there's a whole lot of leadership going on,
especially since Zach has been calling the guys out like hey,
just looking for someone to step up.

Speaker 2 (01:35:59):
Who's going to step up up?

Speaker 5 (01:36:00):
He seems like there's some drama.

Speaker 2 (01:36:01):
You got the you know, it's not about the best players,
it's about the right.

Speaker 5 (01:36:04):
Players, right, And I think even with Jamar Chase talking
about you know, kind of slipping into that leadership role.
With Joe Burrow being out, I think he's struggling now too,
and we saw him kind of not melt down, but
obviously very frustrated after that loss to the Bears on Sunday.
So they've got to buy this weekend. Then it doesn't
get any easier than that. They have to face the

(01:36:25):
Steelers in Pittsburgh. They're going to end the month with
the Ravens, and the.

Speaker 2 (01:36:29):
Bills didn't wind up getting any people, So I think
they lost the bye technically, still, Sara, at least in
my morning. On to Keith christ Show, it's a again
the snort report here. Not many snorts when your team.

Speaker 5 (01:36:39):
Sucks, there's nothing really to laugh about.

Speaker 2 (01:36:43):
Willy is on the way. Next he's going to explain
why A the candidates he back lost once again.

Speaker 5 (01:36:47):
It's just true.

Speaker 2 (01:36:48):
Seven hundred The Bengals of Politics, Bill cunning Bill Cunningham. Next,
maybe he'll blame Al Golden seven hundred. Don't get another
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