November 5, 2025 • 17 mins
Scott breaks down the results of last night's election with election analyst of Crosstown Consulting.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Do you want to be an American idiot? Election night?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And in early one at that last night Good Morning
Scott's So show on seven hundred WYLW and the headline
of course DEM's sweep from Jersey to New York City
to Virginia to Anderson Township and so a blue I
don't know if it's a blue wave. Let's have blue
or a blue ripple because it's really only been a
year since the Republican takeover. Nonetheless, to put things in perspective,
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he's a pollster from Crosstown consulting in northern Kentucky. That
would be Kevin Burton, who's consulted more than a few
people in this race. Kevin, welcome, how are you?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Thank you for having me Scott.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
A good day for you. I know your candidate's all
swept up, right.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
It was a good It was a good night. You know,
it's all about understanding the political environment and running, you know,
running with that and it's that simple. But yeah, the
council race and the Mary race was called early. It
was a good night if you were them.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
It was typically we see that the midterm referendum that
the party in power is refuted at the midterm. This
feels like it's starting a little earlier. Am I right
about that? I mean, literally, it's been nine of a year,
a year into Trump's you know, Trump tom across America,
and I think, as you said before, it's the standard
beds of people at the top that's kind of set
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the tone. Are we starting to see that swing earlier
than ever before?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I mean, I would go back to even twenty seventeen,
and it was very similar if people can remember, I know,
it was a long time ago. Trump. If Trump is
not on the top of the ticket, he is, he
has lost every election. Yeah, yeah, but Trump is the anomaly.
And that's the one thing that when he is not
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on top of the ticket, it is a whole different ballgame.
We've seen it in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen,
you know, twenty one, twenty two. Trump is the outlier.
And you know, we will say the biggest shock to
me was to see New Jersey, which you know, Trump
did so well. Yes he lost, but he got it
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within five which was kind of unheard of for instant
wing back to I believe it was like fifteen or
you know, all the inroads he made in the minority
communities like in it really shifted back. And it's as
simple as it's the economy stupid. You know, every election
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is about the wallet. And if you're in power, you
you know, and people are having hardships, they're going to
take it out on you. And in a lot of ways,
the Trump administration is doing the same problem that Biden did,
downplaying inflation and down playing how much the average person's hurting. So, yeah,
you know, your four oh one k might be doing well,
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but that's not everyone.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I think you know, that's illustrative
of New York City with Mom Donnie. He feels like
the he feels like the anti Trump because total grassroots effort,
right in social media. He's going to clubs, he's hanging
out with younger voters, the youngest voters, social media, digital campaign,
no TV, he's not doing Good Morning America, no legacy media,
nothing like that. And he just simply comes out of
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nowhere and reset how politics is going to be run
in the future, for sure, And so he blasts the
gen zs, the young millennials, and they have now arrived
as a voting block. Now that's New York City, that's different.
But but again that starts there in a pretty young city,
and that wave kind of sweeps this way as we
saw what happened in Anderson Township for example.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yeah, and you know, from an Donnie he is one
of those just regardless of what you think of him politically,
he has the aura. He has it, Yeah, he does.
And you know, and it's actually very similar to both
the Obama and Trump that he came out of nowhere
and it was a meteoric rise and he captured the
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soul of the voter. And that's something that no consultant
can tell you to do. You just have it or
you're not. But then for Anderson, you know that Anderson's
completely shocking to get back to the local side. You know,
in twelve years, it went from being a super red
you know township to now almost all blue.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
So yeah, two Republican trustees replaced by two Democrats on
the three member panel. And also I'll point out the
Foesail school board flipped blue as well.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yeah, So you know, it's very interesting because you know,
during the Trump era of politics, we have seen rural
areas get redder, cities get bluer, and really the suburbs,
the Anderson townships, the you know Florence, Kentuckys of the world.
Those are what decide really national elections, state elections, and
(04:54):
you know they swung for Trump last year, yep, but
they came back overwhelmingly now to the which I'm always shocked.
I've never met someone who is a swing voter. And
if you guys are you guys are amazing. I would
love to meet you guys sometimes.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
The imaginery, yeah, but the elections out they're lost in
one in the suburbs because, as you mentioned, the rural
areas are pretty red, the cities, urban airs pretty blue.
But we're seeing the blue kind of sweep to areas.
You know, years ago it was Montgomery and Blue Ash
and it's Anderson Township.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
It is. And you know, so that's going forward for
twenty six, seven, eight, All resources for either party should
just be all put in to the Anderson township type,
you know, the suburbs, because that's where you win or
lose election. That's how Joe Biden won in twenty twenty,
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That's how Donald Trump won in twenty four the suburbs.
So all resources going forward, I would not be shocked
if you saw both sides just pour heavily into you know,
digital grassroots knocking in the suburbs, because that's where you
win or lose an election. You're not going to win
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or lose the election in rural if you're Republicans or
the city if you're dem So you got to turn
you got to get the suburbs voters. Right.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Well, I'll even point out where I am, you know,
like in Mason and Warren County that's been deep red
for a long time, pretty red for a long time,
but even that we're starting to see change. Emmy Greg
Landsman one reelection there and we'll see what happens with
the registering of Him'm gonna get him on the show
in the next few days to talk about that. But
I know, it's like the council is kind of flipping,
maybe not blue, but more moderate. In the past, it
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used to be really really rock ribbed, super Trump mega,
even though their mega candidate missed getting elected for the
second or third time. So it's interesting how even Warren County,
which is pretty red, is starting to get back towards
the middle.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Oh. You know, and elections are always a pendulum, and
you know, they go one way and they and right
now we're kind of getting back to the middle. I mean,
you know, for Hamilton County, when I first started, it
was a swing county and now every single basically elected
official from judges all the way down are all blue.
So it's just been a very fascinating political shift during
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the Trump era. You know, in school, you would always
learn about the nineteen sixty eight, the Civil rights era,
how it changed the map, and it's very similar now. Yeah,
you know, Trump has changed the political landscape and how
you win elections, and it's just been fascinating for someone
for what I do, how to get you know, the
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fifty plus one vote to win an election, and that's
been the biggest change during.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
The Trump era.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yeah, so this is more of a rougher end amount
affordability in the pocketbook or Donald Trump?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Are both? I think it's both. I mean, you know, yes,
you know, Jannie really hit on something and I think
I want to be shocked as Democrats to play on
this nationally. Yeah, Elon Moss, Jeff Bezos are getting how
much more billions while you're struggling to pay for eggs?
(08:13):
Easy to affordability. Affordability will always be the number one issue.
I know, James Carville and I said it earlier, it's
the economy stupid always yeah, yeah, always, yeah, always, it's
the number one issue. And frankly, if people are feeling
it at home, they're going to take out their frustration
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on the ballot box.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
And I think it's true.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
You know Trump saying, Hey, I'm gonna come in the
first day, You're gonna get more money, it's gonna be overnight.
I'm gonna fix all these things and make these grandiose
promises on the campaign trail, which politicians often do, but
Donald Trumps has really turned that out.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Its ear like he's really good at it.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
If it's been a year later and you're seeing things
get worse, stagnant, or just simply not better, uh, then
you go to the alternative and now you've got a
guy like mom daddy making these promises, which we'll see
what happens in the year. And I'm guessing a lot
of this stuff's simply not going to happen. I wonder
and again, three years from now, maybe he is your
Democratic front runner. If he can be successful. I doubt it,
but we'll see about you know, free buses and we're
(09:11):
gonna freeze rent and we'll see how that works out.
But back to the local race here, I'm not surprised
by aftabs win. I said, I think he's gonna win.
You never want to say never, but I think he's
more than likely. If our betting, I would bet handily
that he would have won the election he did. But
are you surprised by the margin that he won by
him almost eight and ten voters.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yes, I thought my over or under for him was
about sixty five seventy percent. But it also just speaks
to how well of a machine he has. I mean,
aftab has won every election besides the one against Shabbit,
which is a self inflected wound, and the city is
(09:52):
just that blue. You know, Harris won seventy five to
twenty five. So it's very similar to the Harris bird.
And it just points to all the outside noise on
social media and talk radio and everything. Ye city, the
people in the city actually don't care. They care about
(10:16):
you know, issues about rent, about social issues. And you know,
for Astap, this gives him a referendum like he has
a mandate, like so with the police chief, the city manager.
When you win almost eighty percent I don't care who
you are. You have a lot of cliche now, So
it's gonna be very interesting to see how he does that.
(10:37):
And you know, his campaign was very kind of smart.
They didn't try to make too much of an issue.
You know, props to him and his team. They clearly
knew what they were doing, and it showed last night.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah, yeah, it did. But I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I think the way they handle a lot of these
things relative to crime was not good at all. Does
that just empower them to do more of the same
double down on this because I get I don't live
in the city, and I know that crime isn't rampant downtown.
There's just areas and pockets that are difficult. A lot
of the policies and quite honestly, the missteps and incompetence
how they handle Terry Sieg. You know, I think as
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voters didn't give a damn and you know that he
doesn't have to please me, you have to please voters.
I get that whole thing. But does that just give
them more leeway to go, Okay, well, they don't care
about this. I can I can definitely, you know, I
can get police officials to charge folks after the fact
and I can you know, suspend someone before I fire
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them and voters don't care?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Is he just going to do more of that?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I mean, at the end of the day, when you're
an elected official, you know the voters are the people
who keep you in check. And when you win eighty
percent and when you sweep all council, the voters have
clearly made up what they think is the most important
is issue. So you know them swept all counsel. They
swept them as all the trustees, school boards and Hamilton County,
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so you know the crime issue is not as big
of an issue to the voters of Hamilton County as
it appeared.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
No, that makes total sense.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Scott's Solondlaw with Jeff Jeff Kevin Burton from Crosstown Consultanting.
He's an upholster and political wonk if you will, had
a hand in a number of the people winning election
last night in the local area and just some observations
as to why the DEM swept and what is behind
this whole thing pocketbook, they'd be affordability and the Trump
factor as well are influencing races, not just on the
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East coast with Jersey and Virginia and New York City,
but also places like Anderson Township where you saw two
Republican trustees replaced by two Democrats. They flipped that blue
and Foresail school Board as well. Not surprised by aftabs win,
I thought that, okay, I said, you know, Aftabs is
going to win this election. I'm pretty sure of it.
But I thought that there would be a little bit
more upheaval on city Council.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
And that just speaks to this power of the blue
slate card. You know that it was actually very remarkable
because I think even the biggest Dems would have told you.
I think eight out of nine. Ryan James was always
the question mark, as you know, someone who's not on
council and list heating ran a perfect race. But at
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the end of the day, the numbers are what the
numbers are. There's nothing more that she could have done.
She raised a bowloado of money, she did a blitz
at the end, but the numbers are what the numbers are.
And the blue slate card that you see when you
go to a poll, if you're in the City of
Cincinnati or Hamilton County, it's undefeated. Now it you know,
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the biggest elections going forward in the city will be
the primaries similar to Columbus Cleveland. And that's just how much,
in you know, fifteen years, it has changed from being
you had to be this moderate on either side to
you know, win an election, to now where it's solid blue.
(14:02):
And I think you're gonna start seeing in the new
upcoming elections primaries start to get nasty because that's the
real election, now.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Gotcha, gotcha? Your top vote getters.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Michelleman Kearney was number one, Scotti Johnson, Mika Owens is
new and I'll be Jefferies, Walsh, Kramer, Ding Nolan, and
Ryan James and just missing again. I just had her
on the other day. I think she's wonderful. Liz Keating,
who went totally in on the crime thing, as well
as Chris Smitheman, the Keda Cole. They all went to crime, crime, crime, crime,
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and it didn't matter because Liz keith Anthy for the
second election now just narrowly missed that ninth seat.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Yeah, and to her and her team, they ran, you know,
it's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback, but they
ran as good as the race. I don't really know
anything they could have done differently, but when a city
votes seventy five to twenty five, you know, for the
mayor or eighty twenty in this case, it's very hard
(15:00):
to overcome that. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's that simple.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Right, right, But I think it's a promise there because
Mika Owens came as a charter right and she finished
surprisingly third, beating out a lot of the incumbents there
with the most number of votes behind Lemon, Kearney and Johnson.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
MICA's endorsed by the Hamilton County Democratic Democrats.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
I'm sure, yeah, yeah, right, yeah, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
The charter. Yeah, but you know, it's amazing and basically
ten years the charter rights went basically extinct, which they were,
you know, a large part of Cincinnati politics since the
nineteen twenties. But they just they just don't have the
juice anymore.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Right, What do you attribute that?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Just the fact that we're it's a two party state
and that's all because I mean we had charter you know,
I've been here for twenty years and there are plenty
of charter rights that did wonderful and work and represented well.
And why can't they get traction?
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Uh? It's national, I mean at the end of the day.
Politics now has become so national. You know, it's a
you're either with us or against stuff, and people just
now you know the social media age that there's no
wiggle room. No. And secondly, the charter right, this is
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very wonky now and I'm gonna apologize. It's actually a
committee and not a party with the state. So it
also hurts some of their resources. So it's not like
the Green Party, because you know, you have national stuff.
They just lack the resources. And frankly, when the earned
media for either the R or the D are trillions
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of dollars every year, there's nothing you can do.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
He's Kevin Burton with Crosstown Consulting Other Kentucky. Congratulations on
your slate of winners. Area went six or six in
this I know Kevin and I always love the insight
the polster and why we've voted the way we voted yesterday. Kevin,
all the best, Thanks again.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Bud, you do well.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
All right, got to get a news update in I
believe Frank Marzula is standing by from WCPO nine. He's
down in Louisville. The very latest one that ups plane crash.
We'll get back to some of this election related stuff.
Lots to do on this Wednesday morning. Sloaney seven hundred
WoT the
Do you want to be an American idiot? Election night?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And in early one at that last night Good Morning
Scott's So show on seven hundred WYLW and the headline
of course DEM's sweep from Jersey to New York City
to Virginia to Anderson Township and so a blue I
don't know if it's a blue wave. Let's have blue
or a blue ripple because it's really only been a
year since the Republican takeover. Nonetheless, to put things in perspective,
(00:27):
he's a pollster from Crosstown consulting in northern Kentucky. That
would be Kevin Burton, who's consulted more than a few
people in this race. Kevin, welcome, how are you?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Thank you for having me Scott.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
A good day for you. I know your candidate's all
swept up, right.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
It was a good It was a good night. You know,
it's all about understanding the political environment and running, you know,
running with that and it's that simple. But yeah, the
council race and the Mary race was called early. It
was a good night if you were them.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
It was typically we see that the midterm referendum that
the party in power is refuted at the midterm. This
feels like it's starting a little earlier. Am I right
about that? I mean, literally, it's been nine of a year,
a year into Trump's you know, Trump tom across America,
and I think, as you said before, it's the standard
beds of people at the top that's kind of set
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the tone. Are we starting to see that swing earlier
than ever before?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I mean, I would go back to even twenty seventeen,
and it was very similar if people can remember, I know,
it was a long time ago. Trump. If Trump is
not on the top of the ticket, he is, he
has lost every election. Yeah, yeah, but Trump is the anomaly.
And that's the one thing that when he is not
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on top of the ticket, it is a whole different ballgame.
We've seen it in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen,
you know, twenty one, twenty two. Trump is the outlier.
And you know, we will say the biggest shock to
me was to see New Jersey, which you know, Trump
did so well. Yes he lost, but he got it
(02:07):
within five which was kind of unheard of for instant
wing back to I believe it was like fifteen or
you know, all the inroads he made in the minority
communities like in it really shifted back. And it's as
simple as it's the economy stupid. You know, every election
(02:30):
is about the wallet. And if you're in power, you
you know, and people are having hardships, they're going to
take it out on you. And in a lot of ways,
the Trump administration is doing the same problem that Biden did,
downplaying inflation and down playing how much the average person's hurting. So, yeah,
you know, your four oh one k might be doing well,
(02:52):
but that's not everyone.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I think you know, that's illustrative
of New York City with Mom Donnie. He feels like
the he feels like the anti Trump because total grassroots effort,
right in social media. He's going to clubs, he's hanging
out with younger voters, the youngest voters, social media, digital campaign,
no TV, he's not doing Good Morning America, no legacy media,
nothing like that. And he just simply comes out of
(03:15):
nowhere and reset how politics is going to be run
in the future, for sure, And so he blasts the
gen zs, the young millennials, and they have now arrived
as a voting block. Now that's New York City, that's different.
But but again that starts there in a pretty young city,
and that wave kind of sweeps this way as we
saw what happened in Anderson Township for example.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yeah, and you know, from an Donnie he is one
of those just regardless of what you think of him politically,
he has the aura. He has it, Yeah, he does.
And you know, and it's actually very similar to both
the Obama and Trump that he came out of nowhere
and it was a meteoric rise and he captured the
(04:00):
soul of the voter. And that's something that no consultant
can tell you to do. You just have it or
you're not. But then for Anderson, you know that Anderson's
completely shocking to get back to the local side. You know,
in twelve years, it went from being a super red
you know township to now almost all blue.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
So yeah, two Republican trustees replaced by two Democrats on
the three member panel. And also I'll point out the
Foesail school board flipped blue as well.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yeah, So you know, it's very interesting because you know,
during the Trump era of politics, we have seen rural
areas get redder, cities get bluer, and really the suburbs,
the Anderson townships, the you know Florence, Kentuckys of the world.
Those are what decide really national elections, state elections, and
(04:54):
you know they swung for Trump last year, yep, but
they came back overwhelmingly now to the which I'm always shocked.
I've never met someone who is a swing voter. And
if you guys are you guys are amazing. I would
love to meet you guys sometimes.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
The imaginery, yeah, but the elections out they're lost in
one in the suburbs because, as you mentioned, the rural
areas are pretty red, the cities, urban airs pretty blue.
But we're seeing the blue kind of sweep to areas.
You know, years ago it was Montgomery and Blue Ash
and it's Anderson Township.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
It is. And you know, so that's going forward for
twenty six, seven, eight, All resources for either party should
just be all put in to the Anderson township type,
you know, the suburbs, because that's where you win or
lose election. That's how Joe Biden won in twenty twenty,
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That's how Donald Trump won in twenty four the suburbs.
So all resources going forward, I would not be shocked
if you saw both sides just pour heavily into you know,
digital grassroots knocking in the suburbs, because that's where you
win or lose an election. You're not going to win
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or lose the election in rural if you're Republicans or
the city if you're dem So you got to turn
you got to get the suburbs voters. Right.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Well, I'll even point out where I am, you know,
like in Mason and Warren County that's been deep red
for a long time, pretty red for a long time,
but even that we're starting to see change. Emmy Greg
Landsman one reelection there and we'll see what happens with
the registering of Him'm gonna get him on the show
in the next few days to talk about that. But
I know, it's like the council is kind of flipping,
maybe not blue, but more moderate. In the past, it
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used to be really really rock ribbed, super Trump mega,
even though their mega candidate missed getting elected for the
second or third time. So it's interesting how even Warren County,
which is pretty red, is starting to get back towards
the middle.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Oh. You know, and elections are always a pendulum, and
you know, they go one way and they and right
now we're kind of getting back to the middle. I mean,
you know, for Hamilton County, when I first started, it
was a swing county and now every single basically elected
official from judges all the way down are all blue.
So it's just been a very fascinating political shift during
(07:19):
the Trump era. You know, in school, you would always
learn about the nineteen sixty eight, the Civil rights era,
how it changed the map, and it's very similar now. Yeah,
you know, Trump has changed the political landscape and how
you win elections, and it's just been fascinating for someone
for what I do, how to get you know, the
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fifty plus one vote to win an election, and that's
been the biggest change during.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
The Trump era.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yeah, so this is more of a rougher end amount
affordability in the pocketbook or Donald Trump?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Are both? I think it's both. I mean, you know, yes,
you know, Jannie really hit on something and I think
I want to be shocked as Democrats to play on
this nationally. Yeah, Elon Moss, Jeff Bezos are getting how
much more billions while you're struggling to pay for eggs?
(08:13):
Easy to affordability. Affordability will always be the number one issue.
I know, James Carville and I said it earlier, it's
the economy stupid always yeah, yeah, always, yeah, always, it's
the number one issue. And frankly, if people are feeling
it at home, they're going to take out their frustration
(08:34):
on the ballot box.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
And I think it's true.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
You know Trump saying, Hey, I'm gonna come in the
first day, You're gonna get more money, it's gonna be overnight.
I'm gonna fix all these things and make these grandiose
promises on the campaign trail, which politicians often do, but
Donald Trumps has really turned that out.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Its ear like he's really good at it.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
If it's been a year later and you're seeing things
get worse, stagnant, or just simply not better, uh, then
you go to the alternative and now you've got a
guy like mom daddy making these promises, which we'll see
what happens in the year. And I'm guessing a lot
of this stuff's simply not going to happen. I wonder
and again, three years from now, maybe he is your
Democratic front runner. If he can be successful. I doubt it,
but we'll see about you know, free buses and we're
(09:11):
gonna freeze rent and we'll see how that works out.
But back to the local race here, I'm not surprised
by aftabs win. I said, I think he's gonna win.
You never want to say never, but I think he's
more than likely. If our betting, I would bet handily
that he would have won the election he did. But
are you surprised by the margin that he won by
him almost eight and ten voters.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yes, I thought my over or under for him was
about sixty five seventy percent. But it also just speaks
to how well of a machine he has. I mean,
aftab has won every election besides the one against Shabbit,
which is a self inflected wound, and the city is
(09:52):
just that blue. You know, Harris won seventy five to
twenty five. So it's very similar to the Harris bird.
And it just points to all the outside noise on
social media and talk radio and everything. Ye city, the
people in the city actually don't care. They care about
(10:16):
you know, issues about rent, about social issues. And you know,
for Astap, this gives him a referendum like he has
a mandate, like so with the police chief, the city manager.
When you win almost eighty percent I don't care who
you are. You have a lot of cliche now, So
it's gonna be very interesting to see how he does that.
(10:37):
And you know, his campaign was very kind of smart.
They didn't try to make too much of an issue.
You know, props to him and his team. They clearly
knew what they were doing, and it showed last night.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah, yeah, it did. But I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I think the way they handle a lot of these
things relative to crime was not good at all. Does
that just empower them to do more of the same
double down on this because I get I don't live
in the city, and I know that crime isn't rampant downtown.
There's just areas and pockets that are difficult. A lot
of the policies and quite honestly, the missteps and incompetence
how they handle Terry Sieg. You know, I think as
(11:13):
voters didn't give a damn and you know that he
doesn't have to please me, you have to please voters.
I get that whole thing. But does that just give
them more leeway to go, Okay, well, they don't care
about this. I can I can definitely, you know, I
can get police officials to charge folks after the fact
and I can you know, suspend someone before I fire
(11:34):
them and voters don't care?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Is he just going to do more of that?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I mean, at the end of the day, when you're
an elected official, you know the voters are the people
who keep you in check. And when you win eighty
percent and when you sweep all council, the voters have
clearly made up what they think is the most important
is issue. So you know them swept all counsel. They
swept them as all the trustees, school boards and Hamilton County,
(12:01):
so you know the crime issue is not as big
of an issue to the voters of Hamilton County as
it appeared.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
No, that makes total sense.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Scott's Solondlaw with Jeff Jeff Kevin Burton from Crosstown Consultanting.
He's an upholster and political wonk if you will, had
a hand in a number of the people winning election
last night in the local area and just some observations
as to why the DEM swept and what is behind
this whole thing pocketbook, they'd be affordability and the Trump
factor as well are influencing races, not just on the
(12:33):
East coast with Jersey and Virginia and New York City,
but also places like Anderson Township where you saw two
Republican trustees replaced by two Democrats. They flipped that blue
and Foresail school Board as well. Not surprised by aftabs win,
I thought that, okay, I said, you know, Aftabs is
going to win this election. I'm pretty sure of it.
But I thought that there would be a little bit
more upheaval on city Council.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
And that just speaks to this power of the blue
slate card. You know that it was actually very remarkable
because I think even the biggest Dems would have told you.
I think eight out of nine. Ryan James was always
the question mark, as you know, someone who's not on
council and list heating ran a perfect race. But at
(13:19):
the end of the day, the numbers are what the
numbers are. There's nothing more that she could have done.
She raised a bowloado of money, she did a blitz
at the end, but the numbers are what the numbers are.
And the blue slate card that you see when you
go to a poll, if you're in the City of
Cincinnati or Hamilton County, it's undefeated. Now it you know,
(13:41):
the biggest elections going forward in the city will be
the primaries similar to Columbus Cleveland. And that's just how much,
in you know, fifteen years, it has changed from being
you had to be this moderate on either side to
you know, win an election, to now where it's solid blue.
(14:02):
And I think you're gonna start seeing in the new
upcoming elections primaries start to get nasty because that's the
real election, now.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Gotcha, gotcha? Your top vote getters.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Michelleman Kearney was number one, Scotti Johnson, Mika Owens is
new and I'll be Jefferies, Walsh, Kramer, Ding Nolan, and
Ryan James and just missing again. I just had her
on the other day. I think she's wonderful. Liz Keating,
who went totally in on the crime thing, as well
as Chris Smitheman, the Keda Cole. They all went to crime, crime, crime, crime,
(14:33):
and it didn't matter because Liz keith Anthy for the
second election now just narrowly missed that ninth seat.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Yeah, and to her and her team, they ran, you know,
it's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback, but they
ran as good as the race. I don't really know
anything they could have done differently, but when a city
votes seventy five to twenty five, you know, for the
mayor or eighty twenty in this case, it's very hard
(15:00):
to overcome that. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's that simple.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Right, right, But I think it's a promise there because
Mika Owens came as a charter right and she finished
surprisingly third, beating out a lot of the incumbents there
with the most number of votes behind Lemon, Kearney and Johnson.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
MICA's endorsed by the Hamilton County Democratic Democrats.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
I'm sure, yeah, yeah, right, yeah, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
The charter. Yeah, but you know, it's amazing and basically
ten years the charter rights went basically extinct, which they were,
you know, a large part of Cincinnati politics since the
nineteen twenties. But they just they just don't have the
juice anymore.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Right, What do you attribute that?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Just the fact that we're it's a two party state
and that's all because I mean we had charter you know,
I've been here for twenty years and there are plenty
of charter rights that did wonderful and work and represented well.
And why can't they get traction?
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Uh? It's national, I mean at the end of the day.
Politics now has become so national. You know, it's a
you're either with us or against stuff, and people just
now you know the social media age that there's no
wiggle room. No. And secondly, the charter right, this is
(16:22):
very wonky now and I'm gonna apologize. It's actually a
committee and not a party with the state. So it
also hurts some of their resources. So it's not like
the Green Party, because you know, you have national stuff.
They just lack the resources. And frankly, when the earned
media for either the R or the D are trillions
(16:44):
of dollars every year, there's nothing you can do.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
He's Kevin Burton with Crosstown Consulting Other Kentucky. Congratulations on
your slate of winners. Area went six or six in
this I know Kevin and I always love the insight
the polster and why we've voted the way we voted yesterday. Kevin,
all the best, Thanks again.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Bud, you do well.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
All right, got to get a news update in I
believe Frank Marzula is standing by from WCPO nine. He's
down in Louisville. The very latest one that ups plane crash.
We'll get back to some of this election related stuff.
Lots to do on this Wednesday morning. Sloaney seven hundred
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