12-12-25 Scott Sloan Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Do you want to be an American?

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Friday Morning, Scott Flung show roll them on seven hundred
WW have football this weekend football, the Lore Army Navy
game this weekend bold match as are all set up
and the college playoffs exciting, and we have the Bengals
in action at four to nine against them Baltimore Ravens
at six and seven. Since then, I of course whooped
them up good on Thursday. Are Thanksgiving nine on Thursday

(00:23):
and Baltimore coming off a loss to Pittsburgh, and certainly
Baltimore has a little bit more to play for the
Bengals this weekend. But nonetheless it is the freezer Ble
Part two. Dan Horde is here ready to go. He's
got his thermal underwear, his battery powered coat. I think
a couple space heaters in the booth next to Dave
lap them. Hopefully Lap generates some heat and all will
be well. On Sunday afternoon, Daniel, good morning.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Good morning, Sonny. I need to go get some of
those hand warming things that you like. You you know,
crack the bag open and it gits there in your
pocket or and your gloves. I need to get some
of those. By saying I had some else did you described,
But I knew some of those, all.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Right, I got some extras. But it's weird because they
don't really warm as well as you. I mean, it's okay,
but just that little rectangles alid heats, it really doesn't transfer.
You got to have those thermal gloves, the battery operated coach,
Those are nice. I do have one of those. Those
are those are pretty good?

Speaker 3 (01:12):
All right? Good?

Speaker 4 (01:13):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Prepared?

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Hit the team shop there on the way into the game, Dan,
and load up for crying out loud. Bengals lost in
snowy Buffalo, speaking of cold weather. That was a tough one.
Before we move on to Baltimore. You know, we'll get
to the Joe Burrows stuff here. You know, the first
peck certainly was all a great play by forty seven,
but first pick was all him. Second one was just
the right place, right time. Not all Joe on this one,

(01:36):
and the Bengals not enough stops on third and fourth
down inability to stop tight ends. Josh Allen ran away
and twenty one points in the fourth quarter. Was just
a heartbreaker for this team.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Twenty one points in three minutes. It's crazy. Yeah, what
a game. I mean, that was game. It was super
fun to call. The end result was bitterly disappointing as
a Bengals person, but the game was commend and yeah,
Joe Burrow was close to perfect, but not quite and
unfortunately he needed to be because of the way the
Bolls were playing as well.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, it was just a fun atmosphere. I was at
the game and it was just a fun atmosphere all around.
Bengals fans were cool. We had a good time. But
now we just had his press conference Joe Burrow and
your take on what he said. I think it's just,
you know, again we're looking for the hot take here.
Joe Burrow said, you know, if I want to keep
doing this, I have to fun doing it. I've been
through a lot and if it's not fun, then what
am I doing it for. So that's the mindset I'm

(02:27):
trying to bring to the table on his birthday. I
think way too much is you know, I get it.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
It is.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
It's about the busitiness and headlines and clicks and all
that as well. Yeah, I mean he just over the
last year. I mean he made sure deals got done
for his two receivers as well as Trey Hendrickson and
they did, So where's he going to go? And why?
It just it doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Yeah, thank you, I'm glad that you have a reasonable
look at this. I felt the same way when I
started watching ESPN yesterday. I was like, did I just
sit in the same room and then witnessed this news
conference completely differently from the rest of the world. I
mean to say that, well, clearly he wants out. Is
the most irresponsible, fake psychologist degree analysis of some of

(03:13):
these news conference I've ever seen. Yeah, he hasn't been
happy the last through three or four years, would you be.
He's been hurt, he's been in constant rehab, and the
team hasn't been winning. So I don't blame him for
not being happy. I don't think anybody in the building
has been particularly happy. It's been rough. The key is
to turn it around as quickly as possible, and nobody

(03:36):
is more determined to do that than Joe Burrows. So
I do think that the one thing we know for
sure was that it was his birthday. Not only that,
but it was his twenty ninth birthday. And I think
a lot of people have a reaction to that particular number,
or a lot of birthdays that end with nine, because
it does represent the end of something, and I think
in Joe Burrow's case, he probably looked at twenty nine

(03:57):
I thought, you know what, I'm not going to be
able to do this forever, and I sure hope as
a team we can get this turned around as quickly
as possible.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, that's a really yea. I mean it's a good
point right at the end of a decade here of life.
So I'm gonna be thirty next time we do this,
and that's a milestone. Uh. Some people have harder. You
have a hard time with birthdays, Dan.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
I don't never have, you know, partly because I'm as
immature at my current age as i was when I
was eighteen. So I feel like I haven't changed at all,
despite the physical decline that has rapidly occurred over the years.
But mentally, I'm just saying stupid more on that I
always was.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Right right, You're just an older, dumber version of those. Sorry,
I get it there, one hundred percent. All right, Well,
segue to this injuries real quick here. Trey Hendrickson done
for the season and probably saw his last game as
a Bengal.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
I would agree with that I would be surprised if
he came back. They could franchise tag him, but I
don't expect there to be, you know, a contract extension.
Certainly they've been a hard time getting those done over
the last couple of years. I don't know why I
would be easy now. So yeah, I would assume that
this is it for Tray and let's hope the Bengals
take that thirty million that he's getting and put it

(05:07):
toward somebody else that can really help that defense, or
a couple of guys that can help that defense.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Right the other side of the ball for the Yeah,
for the Bengals, here is t Man. You know, we
saw him go down and even Bill fans are like
it was kind of quiet because he saw him like
sit up and it's on the big board. And it
happened a couple of times where his head made contact effort.
You know, he made some incredible catches where I touchdown.
It was unbelievable. One hand should have been a flag
too on top of that. But nonetheless, great great TV.

(05:33):
But Struck has had a couple of times he's limited.
He was limited this week. But where do things stand
with him? I'm worried about him.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Yeah, you know, it's a couple of well, one confirmed
concussion and then this week in concussion protocol. I don't
know specifically if he was diagnosed with another concussion, but
he had symptoms, so he got to go through the protocol.
And when it's the second time in three weeks, you
take it super carefully. So the turf is going to
be really hard on Sunday because of a single degree temperatures.

(06:04):
I would guess that the contrussion protocol people, the independent
neurologists will probably err on the cautious side and leave
him out. But I don't know that for a fact.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
I would take if he played, he'd be wearing the
you know, the helmet bubble at least, right, that's.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
A good idea. I hadn't thought of that, but yeah,
that's something else he could do if he chooses to.
You know, the thing is, I have not talked to
Tea since the game on Sunday. I've seen in the
building a couple of times. He looks fine. I mean,
you know, again, he's been limited in practice, so I
think he's probably doing okay, But just because of the

(06:41):
twice in three weeks factor, they might make sure that
he stays out for another game that you know, you
got to take this very seriously for that particular injury.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
I was actually surprised with the conditions. And you know
in Buffalo as calls it was with a with a
hard turf as you mentioned Dan, because that's artificial, that
he wasn't wearing it. Then that that kind of surprised me.
Other side of the ball thought, pretty good if this
doesn't happen. But Mark Andrews, it's not the same guy
he was. But Bengals have a tough problem with tight ends.
As we mentioned with the Bills loss, Mark Andrews was

(07:13):
limited and the Rashod Bateman limited as well.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, they're a problem with tight end is crazy. You know,
they've given up roughly three hundred more yards to tight
end than any other team in the NFL. I think
it's at least five more touchdowns to tight ends than
any other team in the in the NFL. So it's
just been a recurring nightmare. And in that first Baltimore game,

(07:37):
it was Isaiah Likely that had a really good game
except for fumbling when he was going in for a
forty four yard touchdown. When you know Jordan Battle hustled
and managed to rip the ball away just as the
ball was about to cross the goal line, or those
numbers would be even better. So yeah, that's the key.
Not having Mark Andrews helped Cincinnati, although I say likely

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is really good too.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
What do you attribute that to the problem that the
Bengals had all season? And you can go back to
last year a little bit too as well, with tight ends.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
I think it's two things. I think the rookie linebackers
from a position group standpoint of the biggest problem. I
don't think that they've handled that part of the job
very well at all. And then secondly, I do think
it's kind of a matter of you know, what you
prioritize as a defense. So if your number one priority
is to make sure that the ball doesn't get thrown

(08:27):
over your head, you're not going to give up any
sixty or seventy yard touchdown passes. Then it just stands
to reason that the middle part of the field is
probably going to be at least a little more open,
But that doesn't account for how open it's been. You know,
it's okay to make that your priority. The Bengals certainly
aren't the only defense in the NFL. That does, but
you still ought to be able to do a better

(08:48):
job at handling the intermediate part of the field.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
They have, Yeah, And I mean what Zay Flowers had
one hundred and twenty four I think against Pittsburgh only
two catches against the Bengals of Thanksgiving, So you can
corral him isaa likely? You mentioned him. I think had
almost one hundred yards last week as well too. So
there's got to be a shift involved here with the Bengals,
and that's something they got to focus on the off
season for sure.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
You know one thing that they've done in recent years
that they haven't done as much this year is have
kind of a tight end stopper on the team. When
they went to the Super Bowl, they had a guy
named Trey Flowers that that was his specific role and
he was really good at it. And I think looking
at the current roster, I kind of thought that they
could use Djivy in that role. He's near the bottom

(09:32):
of the totem pole for defensive backs on the team,
but he's a tall guy with long arms. He's kind
of looks like somebody who would be ideally suited to
cover a tight end in certain situations. I'm a little
bit surprised they haven't gone to that more often than
they have now.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Dan Horde on the matchup Sunday, it's going to be
cold as the Bengals and the Ravens go at it
at pay Court Stadium, Dan and lamp with the call
of course here on Home of the Best. Bengals covered
seven hundred WLW last time they met, Bengals Hadmar Jackson
who I think fifty three percent completion and what they
had five turnovers and that it was insane. He has
thrown I believe, correct me if I'm wrong one touchdown

(10:09):
in four interceptions over the last handful of games. Not
the same Lamar Jackson that we're used to seeing at
the time of the year, any year for that matter. Well,
I know he's had some injuries with a hamstring right,
and missing practices too. I think he had the maybe
a tow as well. How do you explain what has
happened to Lamar Jackson this season?

Speaker 3 (10:28):
I think you just did. I think he's hurt. I
think when you watch him play, I mean, I give
him credit, he's out there trying to get his team
to the playoffs, but he's hesitant to take off and run.
You can see it. There are multiple situations in every
game where normally he's off to the races and it's
going to be at least a ten yard run because

(10:49):
that's you know, Lamar, and nobody's done that better in
his career than him. Now he's really reluctant to do it.
When he does take off and run, he'll get a
few yards, but he'll head to the sideline. He'll not
Serpentine is way up the field for huge games. So
I just think in watching his play, you can clearly
tell that his legs are not one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
I saw some highlights last week's Steeler game goes you know,
we're on the road of Buffalo last week, and it
even is like his throwing doesn't look quite right. And obviously,
you know, if you're injured, especially if it's a hamsterring
or something, it's going to affect how you throw the
football as well.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
So it's a double edged sword. I think that's what
it is too. I think if your legs are not
one hundred percent as a quarterback, it affects everything. You know,
the good thing about Joe Burrow's toe injury this year
is that it's the left big toe, which in terms
of throwing is probably like one of the least significant
body parts. You're landing on it, So in that sense

(11:43):
it can be painful, but it doesn't involve the plant
to push off the things that generate power for a quarterback.
But if you've got hamstring growing issues, the type of
things that I think Lamar's been dealing with this year,
that affects your throwing. Not to the same extent as
you're running, but it certainly affects all of it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, it's a whole mechanism as well too, And Joe's
got that plate in there. Hopefully that that answers that question.
Back to week thirteen, they shut down the Bengals. Did
Derrick Henry pretty damn well had one twenty eight yard run.
Other than that, it was just like three and a
half yards per carry. And I'll now look at you know,
Buffalo different kind of a little bit different there because
Josh Allen was a little more ambulatory than Lamar Jackson was.

(12:21):
But the run game was fairly successful, I guess against
the Bengals. The Bills did with James Cook, how do
you stop him again? This week? And on Sunday Derek Henry,
and I would also factor in Keaton Mitchell into the
mix as well. Who Keaton Mitchell.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah, Keithon Mitchell's really fat, great contract with Derrick Henry. Well,
the way you stop it is prioritizing stopping it and
hope that you don't get killed by Lamar's arm, hope
that he's still not one hundred percent doesn't throw well
as he normally would. It's interesting because I've talked to
a couple of Baltimore reporters this week for various shows
that I do, and both of them have hit on

(12:57):
the same theme. Baltimore is not giving it to Derrick
Henry enough or like he's only I think he's had
one game this year with more than twenty five carries,
maybe something like that. And both of these people were like,
I can't believe they're just not feeding to them, feeding
it to them play after play after play. So I
said to these guys, I hope the offensive coordinator is

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not listening to this show because as a Bengals fan
flash broadcaster, I don't want to see Dereck Henry get
it a million times if we have single digit temperatures
and snowy surface on Sunday, Derrick Henry might get it
thirty times, so we'll see.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah. Well, I mean you go back to Thanksgiving nights.
Cincinnati dominated the time of possession as well, and it
was like seventeen minutes more than Baltimore ad and just
control the clock, control the clock. I feel like that
should be especial with the weather. The way is, that's
what we're looking at. Can they replicate what they did
Thanksgiving to Sunday, Dan.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Hort, They can't replicate getting five takeaways. No, that was
the biggest reason why there was such a disparity in
the time of possession. That's not going to happen again.
But can they win the turnover ratio battle? Can it
be plus two? If it's something like that, they have
got a very good chance of winning.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Well, we just mentioned Lamar has been you know, turnover
prone the last handful of games. I would imagine that
continues on Sunday because especially because of the conditions.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Well I hope. So, you know, Lamar in his career,
he hasn't thrown a ton of interceptions. He's always been
good in that category. He has fumbled a decent amount
of times. He doesn't protect the ball as well when
he moves around as Joe does. When you watch Joe,
he's always got two hands on the ball. It's one
of the great things from a fundamental standpoint that Joe
Burrow does as well as anybody. But Lamar he'll hold

(14:35):
that thing out there a little bit and you get
the opportunity to punch it away. It's one of the
reasons why Lamar does not have a great playoff record.
He's bumbled in the playoffs a lot. So he coughed
it up a couple of times in that Thanksgiving night game,
and that'd be nice to see again, would be.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Of course, you're doing the game on Sunday at one
o'clock with Dave Lapham at pay Corp in a very
very cold game at that coldest game you've ever broadcast
KC maybe last year.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
It was at New England Christmas Eve twenty twenty two.
That was cold. That was brutally cold. The Bengals team
plane had to make an emergency landing on the flight
home on Christmas Eve, I think somewhere in the New
York City area, if I recall, because one of the

(15:20):
engines was out. That was an eventful Christmas Eve, but
the Bengals won the game thanks to Von Bell stripping
Ramandre Stevenson inside the ten in the final minute to
preserve the victory. And the great thing I always remember
about that game, Sonya, it was brutally cold, I mean
crazy cold. That Joe Burrow completed forty passes. That's his

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career high, the most passes he's ever completed in a
game came in the coldest game that he's ever played in.
So when the Bengals have these bad weather games and
people wonder, well, Gia, they're going to be able to
pass the ball if it's not really windy, The answer
is yes, because for Joe Burrow it doesn't really matter.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, it doesn't right arm, strike, deliver it right on
the target like he always does. It was like in
aberration last week that the pick six that he had.
You don't see that from Joe. Other quarterbacks you do,
You don't see that from Joe Burrow. You also got basketball, Dan,
are you excited about you? I mean your court side.
You have a climate controlled situation there. You gotta love that.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
They're not opening the roof in Atlanta tomorrow. I don't
know what.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
That's what you gonna look like hockey where they play outside.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
That's what you need in February. Be a neat twist. Yes,
the Bearcats are headed to Atlanta for a supposedly neutral
site game against the University of Georgia, but obviously much
closer to Athens, Georgia than Cincinnati. It's a big game.
Georgia's eight and one Bearcats have been disappointing to this point,
at least in their last few games, so this would
go a long way toward flipping the script back toward

(16:44):
the positive. They if they could find a way to
win this game.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yeah, man, give you some amentum going to the conference.
Play Dan Horde again at one o'clock on Sunday with
the call, but I always appreciate it. Stay warm, I'll try.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Thanks, Tony, are your best. See you.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
We'll talk next week and we'll get a news update
in now on this cold Friday morning, not as cold
is gonna be Sunday, for sure, Dodd's a bullet with
the snow. The only problem with that is Round two
is coming, and so far, unless the forecast models change
as we get closer to tomorrow, we're going to get
that two to five inches for sure, and then the
bitterly cold temperatures after that. Here we go full details

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and weather unless I just I just gave away the
lead there. But traffic impacted by this as well too.
On this Friday morning, Scott's flown after news back then
on seven hundred W Scott's flowing. This is seven hundred
wtwy head on the weekend, all usual suspects are here.
Of course, get to Austin Elmore a little bit like

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at ten thirty five, a little more sports this weekend.
Good luck if you're going to the Bengals game, and
don't freeze to death, please and thank you, thank you.
Although I wonder if you're a Bengal fan. I just
wonder if you're going to the game, it's going to
be unbelievably cold out a ten degrees. It's going to
feel like well below zero. Seave your Ravens fan'll have

(18:00):
a chance there. You know, you're kind of in the hunt,
but the Bengals, for all tons and purposes out of it.
Wait to look at that and go, I don't know,
I might be It's yeah, it's not like the Freezer Bowl,
or if you're playing as Dan Hortes said, or you're
playing it, you know New England. There's playoff implications on
my playoff game. It's a different story. You want to
be there, but this is like what what's the point?

(18:20):
I don't know. Yeah, I saw this on the ashon
as I flipping around in the news last night and
saw the every year that you have to do this.
It's the tree safety thing where they show a Christmas
tree in a living room, which is not a real
living room obviously, it's a training thing the fire department uses.
You see this huge blaze, just the trees on fire,

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and it takes no time at all to consume the
entire room because be careful with your Christmas lights in
the tree. Is that the new version of razor blades
and needles and Halloween candy? You know, for years we've
talked about the myth about razor blades, poison and things
in Halloween candy. I'm usually one to happens it's like

(19:02):
a factory or something, a piece of metal and something.
But you know, there aren't people out there checking your
kids Halloween candy. No one's poisoning kids with Halloween candy.
It's a live sale. Used to be not long ago,
all right, it was long ago actually where they you know,
you can bring your kids candy to a hospital X
ray it for you. It's like, why did you ever
find No, we never did, but there's stories about there

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the kids getting the razor blade in candy. No, it's
it's pretty much based on a falsehood. Now, there have
been cases, individual cases where someone has tainted stuff, but
it's been completely obvious, like why are you, well, who
would do that? You'd put it and you'd know who
was handing out that candy. So if you want to
get caught, that's that's pretty much it. But I wonder

(19:44):
if the Christmas tree thing now is you know, back
in the day, if the history of the Christmas tree.
Of course you go back one hundred plus years ago,
people would light their Christmas tree and they put it
up on Christmas Eve. Actually I don't know how long
they keep it up, but it wouldn't be a lot long.
Christmas Eve they would put the Christmas tree up and
decorate it with tinsel and all that other stuff. But
they would have maybe put a candle or two on
the tree as a way to light the tree. And

(20:06):
then someone learned, well that's not a good idea. Hot
wax and a tree, and that's probably why they put
it up on Christmas Eve and it wasn't all dried out.
They didn't leave it there for the better part of
a month or two like most of us too. Right,
if you get a real tree too, it's expensive af
so you want to put that thing and probably taking
it down by June. At this point, I want to
try and get my money's worth out of the sucker.

(20:26):
It goes up around Halloween and I won't bring that
down until Martin Luther King Day. But on that I
just wonder how many people are you know here the
stats on Christmas tree, this Christmas tree, for I just wonder,
is it really the Christmas tree that's causing that? I mean,
there's people with negligence and everything else. It's not like
we have candles on anymore. And even the old school
lights like you once had, and there's probably some hangers on,

(20:48):
but on the lights now are led like. It's very
very low voltage and it produces very little. Everything produces heat,
but pretty much no heat. And so what what actually
is going to catch on fire? How is a tree
going to catch on fire unless you're using you know,
a string of lights that's been handed down for three generations,
probably not gonna happen, and just you know, nothing wrong

(21:11):
to be in safety. But maybe this is a big
deal of Christmas tree fires gone, all these Christmas tree fires.
I'm just curious. Maybe you're I don't know, a firefighter
on the job or something like that had a fire.
But yeah, these days it seem and now all that
I didn't even mention the proliferation of fake trees, which
are much less likely to catch on fire because of
ondo ridal laboratories and the restrictions they have. So if

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mark people have artificial trees and have real trees and
they're lit by LEDs, I don't see what the problem is.
I don't see what the problem is. By the way
you're getting where you're going today, it's fairly easy that
the roads are just wet right now at this point.
When I rolled in earlier this morning, much early this morning,
it was pretty much driving at regular speeds. It was
just wet, no ice whatsoever. There's some spots out there.

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Obviously the forecast that was a little bit off. And
I won't blame the climate terrorists because yesterday or even
last night, They're like, yeah, the models aren't looking like
we're gonna get all the snow we once thought. Okay,
you revised that stuff. I get it for tomorrow. We're
still looking at three to five in some areas. Now,
could that change in the next few hours. Sure, we'll

(22:16):
find out if it does. But I can almost guarantee
is the reason why we don't have the snow we
were expecting. You can thank me. You can thank me.
Years ago I found a Toro snow thrower, like a
little it's a little tiny, you know, twenty one inch
gas pard one and I've had that thing for forever
and it has not worked properly in the last two years.

(22:38):
So I went, I bought A couple of years ago,
I buy a carburetor. I boy, all this sudden, like
I think it needs a new carburetor. I'm not a
small engine or engine guy, more of a wood guy,
but know enough about it to be dangerous. So yesterday
I said, okay, well, I'm gonna get the snowblower out
of the out of storage, pull that thing out of
my workshop and actually work on it. And there's like,
you know, there's mouse poop in it. Some I found

(23:01):
some shelves of acorns in there. I guess a mouse
was having a good old time living in the carburetor
or the air thing where the air cleaner. There's no
air cleaner in it. Airfill turned out. I was like, okay,
well I probably did. Took the whole thing apart, put
the new carburetor in, did everything I was supposed to do.
Two poles fired right up. Man, spend a good three
hours working on a thing, just make checking, making sure

(23:22):
everything worked the way it should be is with my
limited scope and knowologe on small engines, so I was
able to pull that out, like okay. I spent a
little quality time in the garage by myself. You know,
my wife's not coming out there because it's cold. I'm
spending me time, just me and my thoughts. Enjoyed my
enjoyed my work. Pulling tools off the truck and rebuild
my snowblower. Got it all cleaned out, got the gum gun,

(23:43):
carbon cleaner, all that stuff. Good three hours doing this stuff,
put it all back together. Every screw and washer was
accounted for. Nothing was like, where the hell did this
come from? It all worked, had one broken bolt for
the cover, but that was about it. I can live
without that. Got it going, got into two poles. That
baby fired up and smooth as linoleum friends smooth. And

(24:05):
once I got that going, I said, you watch, will
not get enough snow to fire this thing up. And
guess what happened. Not enough snow to fire that thing
got the got an decade and a half old snowblower,
probably destroying the atmosphere by itself, but running smooth as
the top and no snow to applow. So I've done

(24:26):
it for the year. It's almost guaranteed tomorrow we will
not get any snow or for the rest of the
season because I put the effort in and I did
that not only for me, but for ut You can
thank me. Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas. It's a Scott Sloan
show on seven hundred WW News and just about eight
minutes also going on today, we have Red's tickets going

(24:47):
on sale at noon. By the way, if they signed
College Schwarber, if they would have signed him, you think
they would have made up that five million dollar gap
just on Jersey and ticket sales alone probably come pretty
close to it. One could imagine. I'll talk to Austin
Elmore about that coming up. We have another city in
America that is banning e cigarettes. So the reason why is,

(25:09):
and there's a correlation here with the THC and CBD
ban in Ohio. More on that in just a second,
is that they don't want young people vaping. This is
all about protecting the children. However, since twenty nineteen, overall
rates of nicotine vaping have declined among teenagers. Those that

(25:29):
continue to use it, though, seem like that they are
getting more and more addicted, as you would guess because
it is nicotine. But the study that was part funded
by the National Institute of Health found the majority of
young people who try to stop vaping couldn't mainly because
they tried to quit on their own, and there's vehicles
to quit from vaping. And I know people, it's like, man,
you know, you can just breathe air without it smelling
like something. It's like water. You get your glass of water,

(25:50):
doesn't have to taste like something all the time. Same
with air. They make air now you just breathe in
and does not have to be vapor you're bringing. But
that's the dream, right, Not everyone does that has the
time to do that. But yet we have another city
that's banning vaping in public is to protect the children,
which one may go, all right, well, it's kind of silly.
I mean, I get smoking in the dangers of secondhand smoke,

(26:12):
but also the fact that you know, if you're in
a I don't know, a public place and someone fires
up a cigarette, you know, if you can guarantee that
that cigarette is only inhaled and the second hand smoke
is inhaled by the person smoking, but also the people
immediately around you who also would enjoy that, that's fine.
The problem is everyone else has to bear that as well.

(26:32):
And that's the problem when you know, you talk about
do whatever you want as an adult. If you hurt yourself,
you're fine. You hurt other people and there's a harm there,
then that's where the lines crossed. Sure, absolutely, Like that's
why I never got why we don't have smoking areas
inside anymore. My God, If not people smoke, maybe set
a separate area our way instead of having to stand
out there, you know, thirty yards away from any entrants

(26:53):
because someone may catch a whiff of tobacco. For God's sake,
it's gone too far, or should allow people who are
like minded to be able to operate establishments like that.
For example, maybe you limit them to some degree as
to not encourage more people smoking. But you know, again
that's common sense involved. But the jihad against smoking and
now vaping is increased now because you could make the
case before about smoking because I cand smoke. Second hand

(27:15):
vape isn't do anything. It's steam. The chemicals go directly nearby.
The nicotine is going directly in your body. What you see,
it's just kind of like when you go out the
day like today, you can see your breath. It's the
same thing, just some steam. There's no second hand vape
smoke that's going to hurt you. So you should be
able to do it quite ho should be able to
do that at work if you want, not bothering anybody,
but you now, if you're an employer, you want to

(27:37):
ban that, that's entirely a new But banning it outside
in cities, it's just that's mind boggling nanny state to me,
And why I would go And I bring this up
too because I just got worded not long ago. Well,
sure we'll trickle back on this and later in the
week for sure. But the new bill for marijuana and hemp.
They have pushed this I guess bill signing next Friday morning,

(28:03):
by the way, a week from today. So this is
the one that would allow for THG beverages in the
line you know, CBD beverages, and that the governor's going
to sign this thing but has not discussed yet line
out in vetos. So what's frightening about that is you know,
as you know, if you want to bury something in
the news cycle, you released that on a Friday and
by Monday we're onto something else. There is inside word

(28:26):
here that no word on the street is the THC
beverages we enjoy might be the thing that gets slashed
by the governor on the line out of vita. We'll see,
we'll find out anyway'll follow that for you. We'll get
a time out in so I said, news happens in format.
It's full forecast just to head two on seven hundred
WW Do.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
You want to be an American.

Speaker 5 (28:44):
Friday morning?

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Slowly here seven hundred WLW. Well, we have the latest
person of the hen bill in Ohio that has some
really I think good, you know, saving the THC beverages,
but also there's some stuff in there like I've got
to lock my weed up in the trunk. You know,
I don't have to do with a gun. I gotta
do the weed. Certainly, a lot of contradiction, a lot
of problems with this, a lot of moving parts, and

(29:07):
I know this is just one thing, but it's emblematic
of a much bigger problem with government. The problem is
it's a slow to move government right that drives the
black market. The reason why he had to do that
ban was because the legislator's been dragging their feet for
a long time. They had a carve out for hemp,
and then then somebody figured out a way to go, hey,
we could take some of the low level TCH and
hemp and process it. And as long as we drive
the THHD, which is the psychoactive ingredient and weed the

(29:30):
stuff that gets you high, we can make these products.
And then you know, for example, fifty wester rolls out
of beverage. Many companies are doing it. That's CBD infused,
cannabis infused, and you get a decent buzz, kind of
like alcohol without the alcohol side effects. Money people like it. Well,
kids are getting a hold of this in the smokeable
and edible form. In some Roague carryout stores and around

(29:52):
the state, which of course happens when you have a
black market that's created by government overregulation and a government
slow to move, and the end result is now adults
can't have nice things either. No one wants kids getting
high at the same time as an adult. I've kind
of earned that right. So this fits into something else
that's going under the Trump FDA. They're fast tracking reviews
of tobacco. Companies are in the nicotine pouch game now

(30:14):
because we here people are smoking tobacco, as you know,
so they're going to go, hey, we got to make
our money. We'll do nicoteene pouches, things like zen and
other stuff like that. That's all well and good, but
the problem is it's much like Ohio is doing with
the CBD stuff. Is that the slow moving government, the
plot and government the legislature simply can't get out on
the way and create rules that make access available to

(30:36):
other companies, and then the end result is you have
some black market folks getting their products into well convenience stores,
for example, just like we do in Ohio when it
comes to CBD. We all agree kids should not be
getting hold of this stuff, and yet because of the
black market. It does. Now we've remeded that as of
just a couple of days ago. The government's gonna sign

(30:56):
this thing. We'll see kind of a long setup there.
I apologize. She's Sophia Hamilton. She writes in Reason magazine
about this. Also she's a fellow with Young Voices. Good morning,
how are you.

Speaker 6 (31:06):
I'm doing great, Thank you so much for having me
this morning. But I'm excited to chat a little bit
about this scary market changes that we're seeing with not
only nicotine pouches, but like as you were saying, with
cannabis as.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Well, it's two sides of the same coin, right, I mean,
that was the world's longest setup. I apologize, But it
all comes together because it's the problem is the slow moving,
plotting government. And we live in an on demand society.
People sample something and they see something, they read something,
they eat, they drink, go wow, I like this a lot.
Where can I get it? Well, all of a sudden,
you have an exploding consumer market for that, and we

(31:47):
get it. Whether it's a CBD infused to THC CBD
infews drink, or whether it's a nicotine pouch. Somebody's gonna
rush in legal early illegal to fill that void. What's
happening relative to nicotine. We know it's going on with
the THC here in Ohio, but what about the nicotine
patch game.

Speaker 6 (32:05):
Yeah, so nicotine policy is changing all across the country.
We have some states that are incredibly strict and how
to have a lot of bands where they limit ages
percentages of nicotine slavers. And then you have a different
regulatory regen.

Speaker 7 (32:25):
At the federal level.

Speaker 6 (32:26):
Where they are very slow to approve quality products that
have been on the international market for decades and that
we know are safe. And so consumers are trying new
products like nicotine pouches. They've been on the US market
for at least a decade, but they haven't had full

(32:47):
SDA approoval and that's a whole it's a whole process
to get the official stamp of approval from the SBA.
So American consumers have been able to try these products
and realize, oh yeah, I really like the nicotine pouches.
There are a lot smoother than base, there's less downside,
all of these, all of these great things. The FDA

(33:10):
hasn't moved as fast as consumers have. They they've moved
out of snail's pace, and so consumers have drive this product,
decided that they liked it, and it's hard to get
what they want because of all of the state restriction
on flavors. So who's kind of infilled that demand where
the state's state block access the illicit market? And so

(33:34):
we're seeing a bunch of counterfeits explode onto the scene
where they look exactly like the old products that people know,
but there's new flavors and that's exactly what consumers want,
but they don't know that they're getting a sketchy product.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
Right.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
The government in action and the rules that they slap
together have pasually create the black markets. Whether it's alcohol,
whether it's drugs, whether it's nicotine, they'll ban this stuff,
which means you can't do research. And then the other
side of the mouth, they go, well you can't use
this stuff, Well, well there's no research been done exactly.

Speaker 6 (34:08):
Well, I think most consumers go into a store and
they see something on the shelf and they go, oh, yeah,
this is this.

Speaker 7 (34:15):
Is perfectly safe that they're getting.

Speaker 6 (34:17):
It's getting told to me, and there's there's there's there
might be some risks, like they know when they buy cigarettes,
or when they buy a vase, when they buy any
sort of product that there's a downside, but they aren't
going in there thinking that it could be a counterfeit.
And I think that's where it's really scary and dangerous,
is that they think that they're buying a real product,

(34:37):
and within nicopeine pouches, they it's.

Speaker 7 (34:40):
A harm reduction tool.

Speaker 6 (34:41):
They think that they're buying something that's safer for them,
and really it's it's a counterfeit and and it's it's
not meeting the needs. And the reason the reason why
we have all of these restrictions on the nicotine pouches
is what they always say is for the safety of children.
The children aren't getting these products. But we've all been teenagers.

(35:04):
We know how, we know how teams are. They're going
to get their hands on what they want to And
now the market is even more dangerous because the market
is full of counterfeits because we restricted it for the
safety of these teams.

Speaker 7 (35:18):
But now the teams are getting what they're getting, the
counterfeit product.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Right right, So what would happen basically politically speaking, is
a lot of progressives, for example, and some conservatives. What
we'll talk about well, this is why we need a
strong FDA, and this is you know, you're you're just
going to fast track all this stuff and put all
these more poisons on the market, and they're getting on
the market anyway to ignore the what the black market
is created. Whether it's THC drinks or edibles or in

(35:43):
this case nicketeen pouches and pretty much everything else. They've
they've got to meet consumer demand head on, and you
don't do that by okay, in five years, we're gonna
have research and we'll find out whether or not we're
all out of this stuff, and that's going to get
polluted down by lobby groups and everything else, or just
simply you know, if you're anti edible or vape or nicotine,

(36:05):
you're going to shoot this thing down. Whatever the corporate
policy is, so to speak, the party policy. So this
stuff have to be faster. We had to do a
better job of saying, okay, well it's not the best
thing you can put in your body, but at least
there's not mercury or serious harmful chemicals in it. We
need to test this stuff and screen it much much faster.
That's the reality here.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Can we actually change that though, we definitely can.

Speaker 7 (36:30):
These products have been available in the Europe market for Juckie.

Speaker 6 (36:37):
We know that they're steep. We don't need to going
through a whole new approval process. We can look at
these markets that we know and trust and say, Okay,
here's the research that they've produced. It's good to be
on the US market. Let's fast track it and approve it. Instead,
they're doing the same thing where they did with spaces,
where they blocked good things from getting on the market

(37:00):
that we knew we're safe and that we knew consumers wanted,
and instead of approving things, they went and attacked the counterfeits.

Speaker 7 (37:09):
Which needs to happen.

Speaker 6 (37:11):
You need to get the counterfeits off the market, but
they're ignoring why those counterfeits are on the market, and
that's to fill the desires of the consumers. And so
we're seeing the same issue with nicotine couches where they're
attacking the counterfeits, but they're not addressing why the counterfeits
popped up first. And so they really do need to

(37:32):
address the approval process to get good quality products on
the market that.

Speaker 7 (37:38):
Adult consumers want, and that includes.

Speaker 6 (37:41):
Flavors, that includes choice in nicotine percentages.

Speaker 7 (37:45):
And you can't just put this desire to have prohibition,
especially among teenagers, to harming adult consumers because everyone will
be where saft if you take away that child.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Well, that was Governor Mike Dewines cry. Here is this
is about the children. The child. We got to save
the children because children, I get. You know, if I'm
a retail what's the retailer's perspective on this. There's some
I don't care what's in it, even if it's poison.
I'll sell it to them because I need to make
money at my carry out. It's certainly not all retailers.
I don't see the big box stores or you know,
the Krogers of the world, for example, shelving this stuff.
But you know, at the same time, the little guy

(38:24):
at the corner, what's the process for them? They're trying
to keep their head above water to I get it,
but I don't think i'd want to make my money,
you know, selling the kids. Some people are gonna do that.
It seems like it's it's an enforcement issue.

Speaker 6 (38:36):
Yeah, there are enforcement issues, but they're smart. They're going
to find someone who's above the legal age to buy
the product for them or.

Speaker 7 (38:46):
Have a fake idea.

Speaker 6 (38:47):
There's definitely ways. It's really not that complicated for them
to find ways to get these products in a reliable manner.
And I think it's fairs not want teenagers to be
these products, especially if they've never used other nicotine products.
You don't want to get them addicted. But they're going
to do what they want to do. At the end

(39:09):
of the day, They're going to drinks, even though the
drinking ages at twenty one. The aids to consume nicotine
and tobacco is also at twenty one, and we were
all in college at one point.

Speaker 7 (39:20):
But I just this this desire to go through tuisition.

Speaker 6 (39:26):
Policies and we've seen them fail time and time again
with so many different substances is the silliest thing in
my mind. We've seen it fail. Why are we trying
to do it again? Because it's hurting retailers, like you said,
it's hurting consumers, it's hurting the companies, and it's hurting
the local economies because you get so much money from

(39:49):
taxes on these products, and so you're trying to prohibit
it and you're putting it into the black market where
you're the state is no longer able to get the
excise taxes from. So it's really just the loose situation all.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Around, no question. And you know the fact of the
matter is the government can never keep up with demand.
They need to move a lot faster, be a lot leaner.
That makes capitalism work better. Certainly, we don't want poisons
going to convenience stores or our bodies. We assume that
a lot of stuff is tested. But the way the
models set up, the big tobacco companies that have all
sorts of research and development and backing and money coming

(40:26):
or talking billions, and publicly traded companies, they can afford
to play the regulation game, like Zen for example, simply
because they have the What about the mom and pop
the entrepreneurs. And the same is true when it comes
to THHD infused drinks, you know, I mean, you know,
Anheuser Busch may be able to put a product out
that rivals at but something like fifty West here in Cincinnati,

(40:48):
when they roll a THC infuse product, they don't have
the backing, the wherewith all the R and D to
be able to afford all the regulatory red tape to
get the government seal of approval. That just stemy small
all in mid sized businesses, doesn't it exactly?

Speaker 7 (41:04):
Going through the approval process takes good years and countless
countless dollars. Then just became the first company to be
approved to market to adulop consumers in the US their
nicotine pouches in January of this year, the first company.

(41:24):
They're a giant company international, and that took in years.

Speaker 6 (41:29):
And years to get that first stamp of approval. That's
not even the end process. Most companies cannot wait that long,
and so it's an incredibly difficult process to go through.
It's also very very confusing and long, and the sea
has a huge backlog or records long backlog and most

(41:51):
companies just cannot survive that weight to get the approval.
And that's where you're seeing good competition get for Shu
out of the way, while we have the door wide
open for counterfeits where we don't know what's what's even
in them because there's no there's no approval process, there's
no regulation there.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
I know what no one's saying, nicotine is you certainly
you can get sick, you can overdose on nicotine for
that matter too, But you know, it seems to me
a better alternative than traditional tobacco would be vap products,
but especially nicotine pouches that you put between your lip
and gum. It's not a can, it's not a carcinogen
in the way that the traditional snuffs and dip and

(42:30):
smoking is. And so you know, if you're worried about
the future generations and lung cancer and cancer as well,
this seems like to be a good alternative. It's not perfect.
I'm not saying it doesn't have harmful effects, but it's
certainly a lot less than what the alternative is or
the traditional methods are.

Speaker 6 (42:46):
Exactly. It's it's a harm reduction tool because it is
more safe than the other products that are out there.
So if you're going to be consuming nicotine, this is
the safest way that you can do it. And there's
there's still downsides. You can have some irritation, stomach upside,

(43:06):
but you know, I'm sitting here drinking of coffee and
there there's similar downside to coffee as well with the magatinine.
So this is really the safest way that you can
consume the product. And it's it's funny to see all
of the restrictions when you can easily go and buy
a pack of cigarettes still, and so all of these

(43:26):
all of these barriers that we're putting up to a
less harmful product and placing.

Speaker 7 (43:31):
More taxes on it. It's it just does not make
sense if the end goal is to have people consuming
in a safer way. It really does seem like the
end goal is prohibition and abstinence from any subject.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Well, I think the other leg of the stool here
between you know, companies and the government, of the fact
of the the big business that is the health prevention
people or the health the health people. Right, the long association,
hard association where association it might be, is when the
vaping trend started to take years and years ago. What
surprised me is some of the same people that said,

(44:08):
oh my god, we've got to sue tobacco companies out
of existence, and they're they're killing people, they are vaping
seemed a good way to wean yourself off of traditional tobacco.
And yet they fought just as hard as they did
against traditional tobacco, is it against vape And some of
them are fighting against nicotine pouches And I'm like, that's
a much safer alternative to what you get. So if
you you know if you stamp out the problem, not

(44:28):
that you know we I don't know what the smoking levels,
but they're nowhere near where they used to be. Now
your organization cease too. Is this so we have to
find the next boogeyman in order to.

Speaker 8 (44:36):
Keep our funding exactly exactly And what they will never
say is that they'll never point to the tobacco studies
that are done at the national level that show our
youth in adult smoking rates are at a historic leve.

Speaker 7 (44:52):
They will never point that out. And why is that?

Speaker 6 (44:55):
Because of new products like nicotine pouches, And they just
want to demonize this because they think it's from the
same old big tobacco of decades before. And know these
are these are companies that want to have safer alternatives.

Speaker 7 (45:12):
For for their for their client base because they know
what their consumers want.

Speaker 6 (45:19):
And I'll also when I testify on these issues to
state legislators, the people that are arguing against against access
to these good products are not based in reality. They
really are I think, just trying to keep their jobs,
arguing against big tobacco.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
And their nds right.

Speaker 7 (45:40):
And they will argue that nicotine is as harmful and
as because as substances like heroin, and I hear that
line so many times and it's the funniest thing to me.
But it's sad because they think it's rooted in reality
any bit.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
What we got to do is to save the children,
because children to be corrupted in their bank and to agree,
you know, children should not be buying intoxicating hemp products
your carry out. But that is not a reason to
shut the entire industry down because somebody adults enjoy it,
you know, whether it's THG drinks or nicotine pouches or vaping.
It's the same predictable argument from the pearl clutters about,

(46:18):
you know, protecting the show. We've got to shut that
on protected children, damn it, what the adult market wants.
We've got to do this to save the children, which
they're doing at the behest of well, the big health
organizations as we mentioned, as well as the big tobacco
companies that are getting decreasing revenue from tobacco here in
the States, and so they supplant that income and keep

(46:38):
their shareholders happy with something else.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
With us.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
Nicotine pouches are vape that shouldn't price out the little
guy though, and that's what's happening here, whether it's fifty
West or you know somebody's who's selling vape juice to
a local supplier. Anyway, Sophia Hamilton writing about this in
Reason She's with a young Voices and thanks again, Sophie,
appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (46:57):
Thank you so much for having me on, Scott. I
appreciate you're.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Ready for some football this weekend. Bengals playing in the
freezing cold. It'll be freezer Ble part two on Sunday
as they entertain the Baltimore Ravens. We also have controversy
in Michigan, and I'm sure if you're a Buckeye fan
like Austin Elmore, you're loving this. Hulsher on more Thing.
We'll get into that in much morehead Old Sports Weekend
Sports Talk with Austin Next on the show seven hundred

(47:21):
double Weld Friday morning, slowly with your seven hundred double
well w ease and end of the weekends and in
snow tomorrow, very cold on Sunday. I think you're out
of your mind if you're going to the Bengals. I
don't know what are you playing for? What are you

(47:42):
showing up? Probably maybe you got free tickets.

Speaker 4 (47:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
I won't judge. I won't judge. I like the snow,
the cold, different story. We got lots of action going
on in sports. Austin Elmore here from ESPN fifteen thirty.
They'll be on at noon today over there with Tony Pike.
I'm not kidding.

Speaker 9 (47:57):
Like four minutes ago, I was thinking maybe I could
go to the game on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
I was thinking about it.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
Can I can?

Speaker 2 (48:04):
I ask a question, is good seeds still available? Any
of good seats will available? What isn't it for you?
I like going to Bengals games if they're playing for
something they are what are they playing for? Well, technically
they're still alive. And also I like it when they
play the Baltimore Ravens. Usually a good game, Usually a
good game. Sure yeah, sure.

Speaker 9 (48:25):
Lamar Jackson has not been himself, but he's still one
of the best players ever, MVP quarterback, Heisman Trophy winner.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
So you're seeing somebody that's passed their prime in which
you're going for. That's what I said about having a
bad season, a terrible season. Joe Burrow's a Heisman Trophy
winner too good. He's a beast all right. Jamar Chase
is the best receiver in franchise history.

Speaker 9 (48:46):
So you got to go to the game. I'm thinking
about it, all right. I'm also you gotta understand I'm
also a polar bear.

Speaker 4 (48:53):
Man.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
I love the cold, Yeah, I love it. It's funny
the older I get, and that's true, the the more
out of touch other because I'd wear shorts your round
pretty much back in the day, but not anymore. I'm cold, yeah,
I I but that temperature, that's even that that's cold cold?
What is it different? Like single digits? That's fine, all
right with it?

Speaker 7 (49:13):
All right.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
I don't think.

Speaker 9 (49:15):
I don't think cold happens until you get below twenty
degrees then it gets cold. That that's cold.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
My threshold has always been like right around ten fifteen
right there. But now it's like, that's just thirties cold.
I've been to colder games than that.

Speaker 10 (49:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Yeah, the wind is the issue. If there's no win,
you get the wind. That's a problem. So let's talk
about that match up here real quick.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
Audio.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Let's get this out of the way here. They beat
him on Thanksgiving night, pretty good. Baltimore just lost to Pittsburgh,
and you mentioned Lamar Jackson's I brought up with Dan Horde,
and I think we just came to the conclusion that
it's it's the injuries, and the injuries you don't hear about.
It's affecting not only his ability to run, but also
his abible to throw. Now that's a concern if you're Baltimore,

(49:55):
not so much if you're Cincinnati.

Speaker 9 (49:57):
That helps, Yeah, without a doubt, And it's it's affected
them in a lot of different ways. He hasn't been
practicing more than like two days a week, and offensively,
they still don't have the weapons that they really need
on the outside. I feel like that to surround Lamar
Jackson with and Derrick Henry has just been okay, Like

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their offensive line has been injured. Their offensive line has
not been great. They're missing a starting lineman this week
due to a suspension, So they've just been out of
sync all season long, has Baltimore. That being said, on
the injury report this week, Lamar Jackson didn't have a
listed injury. He's been dealing with a hamstring, has been
dealing with a kne he's been dealing with an ankle.

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All those are apparently gone. It was non injury related
rest days for Lamar Jackson. So that's part of just
managing a player who is getting older. So if he's
back to one hundred percent, that's a viable threat anytime.
But all the advanced metrics about his speed, about his scrambling,
all those numbers are way down on the margin. Interesting

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this time next year to see where he's at at
this point. I'm still braw to the young man anyway.
And if John Harball is the head coach of Baltimore,
still I think there's there's a lot. I think there's
a potential for a lot of change in the AFC North,
all right. I don't think it's crazy to think that
all four coaches are fired in the office.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
Yeah, and if John Harbaugh is fired, does he go
back to Michigan to take over for Sharon Moore and
Jim Harby.

Speaker 9 (51:25):
I don't know that Michigan wants anything to do with
the Harball name, because clearly he established a culture there
that has led to embarrassment over and over again.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 9 (51:34):
Jim Harball had eleven assistants in his time at Michigan
that have now either been arrested, are in jail, or
have been permanently banned by the NC DOUAA. That's a
Michigan man if I've ever seen one. Jim Harball is
a fraud.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
What about Sharon Moore? Also a fraud? I feel bad
for him though it's a story.

Speaker 9 (51:52):
I really wanted to like get on the air one
on and make fun of the whole situation.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
And then it turned dark really quick, really dark, like
like you're holding people because you've got I mean, granted
what six MILLI year in his white calls. I've heard
some of the calls this morning like he's desponding, suicidal.
He didn't see this coming.

Speaker 9 (52:09):
And apparently there's been multiple investigations into the way that
he's treated women. There's been multiple people that have talked
to him about mental health issues that he's been dealing with.
Apparently this has been kind of bubbling under the surface
for quite some time, and clearly it's it's gotten to
the top.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
And really and this thing it came out of nowhere too,
Like the firing really doesn't surprise me.

Speaker 9 (52:30):
But the reason why, well, that's what I'm saying. Apparently
this is the third investigation into him for and that's
not even recruiting thing, correct, And so yeah, it sounds
like from some of the people I've talked to that
it was like the worst kept secret in ann Arbor,
that that dude had issues off the field, but they
were able to you know, I guess go nine and three.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
So that coffs it all up, you know how it is.
You know, it college interesting that this came out. We
finished our big investigation.

Speaker 9 (52:59):
Right, how many college football coaches get busted for cheating. Yeah,
you can either be a good football coach or you
can cheat on your wife. But you can't do both.
You can't do both the same time.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
No, there's cameras everywhere and will and it's kept that
secret along is amazing. All right, that's the Michigan thing.
But speaking of the Harballs, we've got the We've got
Horrball and company coming to town this weekend, Bengals on Sunday,
bitterly cool temperatures. We talked about Lamar Jackson, what ails
him Joe Burrow and you know, I went to the
Bills game and it was it was one of the
best games I've been to in person. Just the whole

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vibe was so cool. They said it felt like a
playoff game. It had a playoff atmosphere. It really did,
and a lot of respect Bills fans, the Bengals fans,
Bengals fans had a good time. But I thought, you know,
you watched that last five minutes of the fourth quarter
and what that is just that's Bengals football right there.
It's like, how do you find a different way to lose?
And I think it's unfair people just throwing out it's

(53:55):
Joe Burrow's fault. That first one that was on him.
Second one was, yeah, you know, tip the ball to Lucky, Yeah,
the fumble at the goal line on the conversion. I mean,
you know, James Cook, the Bills running back, he fumbled
as well as one of those days. But I don't
get this is Joe Burrow. I saw a team that
could not stop tight ends. I saw a team that
could not stop the Bills on third down and fourth down.

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I saw a team that could not stop and many
have Josh Allen from running for forty and seventeen yards consecutively.
That's not on Joe Burrow.

Speaker 4 (54:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (54:22):
My whole thing afterwards is, yeah, Burrow in that moment,
he did all the right things, but the execution was poor.
The ball didn't come out of his hand very well.
He kind of pushed it and Benford made a good play.
So is it ultimately his fault?

Speaker 4 (54:34):
Yes?

Speaker 9 (54:35):
Is it because he made the wrong decision. No, it's
because the execution wasn't there and the ball was slippery
or whatever. It might have been right, So is it
his fault, Yes, But I think it's there's nuance there.
The other thing is the same story about the Bengals
is they can't get that one big moment, that one
big stop, that one big turnover. They dropped two interceptions.

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Josh Allen hit Jordan Battle and DJ Turner in the
chest and they drop both those passes, and you just
can't do that. Third and sixteen. He's not going to
throw the ball deep down the field. They don't have
a spy ye Like you mentioned it, Josh's is not
run for over forty nine yards on a team at
any point this year.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
Yep.

Speaker 9 (55:16):
And he ran for eighty against the Bengals. Did like
the rules of engagement and he was under forty yard.
He was down the field a good twenty yards twenty
five yards before anyone went oh, Josh is running the
ball like the rules of engagement for a quarterback like
him are not that different. From what you get with
Lamar Jackson, and they're not hard to find. And yet

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the Bengals didn't do the basics. Don't blitz him, don't
play man coverage, put a spy on him, and stay
you know, in your rush lanes, don't get too far upfield.
They didn't do any of those things, and it bit
them in the butt. And you know, if we don't
talk about firing coaches, I don't know how you can
really run it back with Al Golden next year. Where

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have you seen development on the defense? Have they called
slightly better?

Speaker 4 (56:01):
Yes, in the.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Beginning they've gotten better, but again that's Bengal better. Slightly
better tackling is the only thing you can point to.

Speaker 9 (56:07):
What about Zach? That and DJ Turner is having a
good year, And I think that the conversation with Zach
is fair as well. He's the guy who hired Al Golden,
He's the guy who decided to fire Louisa Rumo. Yep,
he's the guy who's involved in these draft picks as well.
Are you going to allow him to fire another coordinator?
And it's not on him, it's usually the first time
as the coordinator, second time it's head coach.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Yeah, I agree, I don't. I don't expect either one
of them to get either because they went to the
Super Bowl the century, so he's good until he's my age.

Speaker 9 (56:34):
Well, Mike Brown fired Sam Weiss three years after they
went to the Super Bowl, and he was still a
good head coach.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Say, I just I don't see it coming. I really
don't know. I don't either. I don't expect any things
to blame it. So, well, Joe Burrow got hurt, Well,
well we got to Yeah, and Joe Burrow is not
the problem. Obviously, you don't stand a good chance of
winning when uh he's out. But again he comes back
and they still lose. So what's that tell you? Exactly?
Are they going to change how they recruit? Are they
can change how they scout? And they're going to change

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how they know.

Speaker 9 (57:00):
They've added people to that department, they've added resources, and
on paper, their plan made a lot of sense.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
They just haven't executed it.

Speaker 9 (57:08):
So it's up to them, you know, as business owners,
as operators of a football team, to look around and say, Okay,
how can we fix this and our evaluation and our
process and our business model to be more successful?

Speaker 2 (57:21):
This also breaking Joe Burrow is not retiring or going anywhere.
He's not retired. Story, that's just dumb. I have news though.
In an hour and six minutes, single single game Reds
tickets go on sale for what for those season coming up?
She excited? No, would you be excited if the Reds
had shigned Carl Schwarber and with the amount of interest

(57:42):
in him coming here would sist with those tickets out?

Speaker 3 (57:44):
Well?

Speaker 2 (57:44):
That tickets announced me to be grander today, knowing he'd
be in a regular.

Speaker 9 (57:48):
The Reds have practically been begging me for the last
month and a half to re up my Tuesday Pass,
which is every Tuesday home game for like fifty bucks.
I'm not doing it. I'm not interested in reinvesting in
a team that doesn't invest in me, and I think
a lot of Reds fans feel that way. That's a
great promotion. I had a great time doing it last year.

(58:10):
I'm not here to tell you how to spend your money.
Do whatever you want. For me, personally, I don't really
feel like the return on investment was there for me,
because while this team did win more games and go
to the playoffs, there isn't an aggressive pursuit of a
championship in that organization. The kylesh warbur News is a
part of that, a reflection of that, and what they're
gonna do is try to run it back with basically

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the same team and expect the same results.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
We've seen that before with the football team we just
talked about. He'll be talking about that and more today
at noon with Tony Pike on fifteen thirty ESPN fifteen thirty.
Ought to have a great weekend, stay war Thank you.
I appreciate it. I don't know if I'm going to go.
I don't know if I got the guts. You say
that to the guests that are coming in studio next
here Joe Burrow's mom and dad in studio next. I
got some questions for jim questions. Yeah, Carl, I'll talk

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to Jimmy right, I'll just move over. That's Marty Grot
twenty twenty six. I'm the King of Marty Grontre involved
with the with the charity. Oh yeah, Jimmie and Robbin
coming up next on Sloony seven hundred WW Cincinnati Dont
want to be an American Floony back on seven hundred W. Well,
W've got Marty got coming up? I get to be
king again for the three thousands a year. I believe

(59:15):
it's a thirty fifth year. I think I've been doing
this for at least ten or fifteen. And that happens
on Fat Tuesday, February seventeenth, Northern Kentucky Convention Center. And
this year, in addition to raising money for Brighton Center
and Bethany House and Homeward Bomb getting meals and food
for homeless kids in Northern Kentucky and Cincinnati, we have
a new title sponsor. And in studio this morning is

(59:37):
Robin and Jimmy Burrow and our buddy Gordy Snyder Burrows.
First of all, I've talked to Gordy for many years.
I don't care about him as much as you guys.
How are you. We're doing well, awesome, good to see you.
Thanks for popping in today, Gordo, how are you.

Speaker 4 (59:48):
I'm good, Scott, good to see you.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
Good to see of course, of course, there's no other
place I'd rather be. It wouldn't be the same with
the Kingdom. To get bread thrown at me. It's a
whole thing. It's a whole. It's a whole. There's a
traditional oh there is. Robin just hit me in the on.
It's got a pretty good arm. I wonder our son, guy,
I wonder joe got it from That's pretty good, coach, Coach,
could you break down the throw the mechanism there, break

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down the.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Not a little more accurate.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
You didn't get Yeah, Robin, Joey has nothing to worry about. Okay,
I got it all right. So you got his fashion
sense from mob the sports from from Dad Possible as well. So, uh,
this year, thirty fifth annual, this is a big milestone
right here. How much money have we raised to day, Cordy,
We've raised about.

Speaker 11 (01:00:29):
Two point nine million date to feed homeless children and
different agencies as you mentioned. This year we hope to
go over to the three million dollar mark and it's
going to be an exciting party, as you know, and
with a purpose and to feed these homeless homeless children
throughout the greater Cincinnati Northern Kentucky area.

Speaker 4 (01:00:49):
So you know, it's one of those things.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
I actually got a crumb in my Robin that was
a better throw than That's fine. I got a yeast
infection out my eyeball, so it's I don't know what's
going Yeah, sorry.

Speaker 11 (01:00:59):
No, that's what it was. Just so you know it's
it's going to be a great event. We have as
you know, live entertainment there with DV eight. We have
the Fort Mitchell High School band leading the parade which
you are riding in and get roles thrown at you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
I yes, you get assaulted with bread yep.

Speaker 11 (01:01:18):
And we also have the uh the uh you know,
live and Silent auction, which are great events and people
can begin to bid on those about you know, the
beginning of February.

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
Gotcha, Well how it comes out there for people step bidding.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
On nice nice, that's always good. Let's talk about the
Joe Burve Foundation and how you guys decided to get
involved here.

Speaker 12 (01:01:38):
Well we uh uh the Joe Burrow Foundation and has
been going out about three years. It all started, uh
once upon a time when Joe uh and his heistman
Speed addressed food insecurity in Southeast Ohio and then drafted
by the Bengals. He wanted to start a foundation and
uh give back to Athens, Southeast Ohio, Baton Rouge and

(01:02:02):
of course Cincinnati. So it's it's been great. We're really
glad to partner with this Marty Marty Gral thing to
help the homeless children feed them. Anything to do with
Marty Gral and Louisiana, We're we're always in but kind
of our motto is to help the underprivileged and the

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underserved in in terms of food insecurity and children's mental
health and children's homelessness can definitely be all intertwined into
those three things.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Yeah, over the years, I've watched this the organization and
what they've done firsthand, and it's nothing short of incredible.
This one night raises so much money. I mean, you
think you're putting we take it for granted, you know,
the food, but there's kids who are in food insecurities
and the like, and it really helps make their lives whold.
At LEAYST try to do that as well. And I
think it's really interesting, Robin is that you know, Joe

(01:02:55):
goes to LSU, he wants to get involved with food
insecurity and this, like this charity with the event we
do is like perfect for you guys because it's only
Marty Gratt raises money to feed kids. It's incredible.

Speaker 10 (01:03:08):
Yeah, it definitely seems like it was meant a partnership,
meant to be. We're very excited to be the presenting
sponsor and help with the food and security piece and
help children be able to know where their next meal
is coming from so they have one less thing to
worry about if they are challenged with homelessness.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Yeah, Gordy, let's talk about that and how many meals
are provided and where it all goes, because people go
and you kind of feel you think about it like, wow,
I'm having a good time because you get a ticket
and it's all you can eat, all you can drink.
And we've got every restaurant in northern Kentucky and Ohio
that seems that they there. We have probably got to
turn some away. It's way more food and drink than

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one should have on a Tuesday night. However, I will
say that when you're doing it, you think, wow, it's like, Okay,
I'm having a good time, but this is I'm doing
it for a good cause.

Speaker 11 (01:03:57):
Yeah, it's for a great cause. We serve over one
hundred and fifty thousand meals for Brighton Center, Bethany House,
and Welcome House. And you know, the nice thing about
this is that all the money is ear marked for
food and it's a restaurant, restaurant's way of giving back
to the community. All the purveyors at over fifty restaurants
and perveyers there that night right and everything under the sun.

(01:04:19):
As you know, because you've walked around and seen all
the different.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
Risks they need all you'd be in trouble if you
did that.

Speaker 11 (01:04:24):
Yeah, And you know, like you said, if you get
there early, because you can buy a VIP ticket or
sponsorship and then you get the big piece.

Speaker 4 (01:04:32):
Of the chicken.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
You get the big piece of chicken. That's the key.
You get the VIP ticket which is how.

Speaker 11 (01:04:36):
Much VIP is one hundred and twenty five dollars. And
we have sponsorship levels from fifteen hundred all the way
up to ten thousand. So if a corporation or a
community or association wants to get sponsorship, get a table.

Speaker 4 (01:04:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
Yeah, it really is amazing. I'd imagine the auction with
you know, with the Burrows here along with Gordy Snyder,
that the auction items are probably going to get increase significant.
That'd be some good stuff. We might have something there
from Joe Burrows. You might have a couple of things.
Does he ever get tired of you guys asking us
I gotta sign?

Speaker 10 (01:05:07):
Yeah, Actually he does get a little tired of that,
but it's always for a good cause, and he's happy
to support other organizations and this is certainly a good cause.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
We pick our spots. This week is not a good week.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
No, this is not a good week at all. That
the big game coming up here for the Bengals, and
I know it's been a it's got to be hard
for you, guys. I can imagine what it's like to
watch a football game with you too.

Speaker 12 (01:05:34):
Yeah, we we once upon a time, after all my
years of playing and coaching, Yeah, we thought maybe it
would get easier and we wouldn't be as nervous. But
I've found We've found that we get more nervous now
because we know how important it is to Joe and
the team and and the city and fans and everybody.

(01:05:55):
So yeah, we're we're uncomfortable until the game starts and.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
Then we'll be Yeah, I bet and that happens, right,
And that's a whole different thing. And especially with the
injuries too, And let's face it, that's that's a huge
concern every time he gets hit.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
It's part of it.

Speaker 12 (01:06:10):
I think that the mom uh here does gets a
little more uh nervous about about the injuries. But it's
it's as I said, part of the game. Yeah, you know,
it's risk reward. It's high risk and high reward the play.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
Well, we don't need Robin. I think you agree we
don't need It's all well and good, but we don't
need a third comeback Player of the Year. We need
a super Bowl, right, That.

Speaker 10 (01:06:33):
Is exactly right. That is definitely on the list of
things to take care of.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
Yeh, check that box off too. So and I know
it's not the season you wanted, but hope springs etournal
here in Cincinnati, Ohio for sure.

Speaker 12 (01:06:45):
Yeah, that's uh, that's one of the reasons Joe works
so hard to get back because of the fans and
and his and his teammates, and that's that's what he
plays forward to bring everybody, including himself in US a
super Bowl and we still think it's going to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
Were you surprised how quickly he came back this season
after that injury. That was amazing to me.

Speaker 4 (01:07:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
I mean he's been know much how.

Speaker 12 (01:07:09):
How hard he works at stuff too, but he's been
a fast heeler and the surgeons that have done the
surgery have been fantastic over the years. The Bengal trainer
Matt Summers, Nate and therapist Nick Cosgray. They're awesome and
he buys in what they want him to do, and

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he trusts them and it works out. He works really
hard because he knows how important it is. Well, of
course he does his his career, his whole life. He's
played football his whole life, and so you know that's
the last thing those guys are gonna do is not play.
I totally unders which is why you know he wanted
to start. When most people say, yah, you should probably
shut it down. You're not going to tell him no.
And if he can go, he can go. That's what
they pay him to do.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
On the other hand, when you see him hit like
that and it's like, man, we saw early in the
season all the pressure he's should eventually you know in
that game he goes down with the foot Robin, do
you want to go out and like, do you have
to be pulled away going to us? I'm gonna call
those linemen up and I'm gonna start. I'm gonna give it. Listen,
this is Joe's mom. You got to protect them better. Well,
there are times that I would like to do that.

Speaker 10 (01:08:07):
Yes, However, Joe would definitely not enjoy if I if
I voice my opinion on that. So I just, you know,
provide all the support I can for him, and I
hope that things will go well.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
I know that those.

Speaker 10 (01:08:20):
Guys all work really hard and are certainly trying to
do their very best, and some things don't go the
way that we want them to. Yeah, yeah, I gotta
trust in them.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Do you said my kids about the same age, you
still get the occasional mama.

Speaker 10 (01:08:34):
Mama definitely a little last the last couple of years,
I think, But I think that is always joy to
my ears when I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
I still don't want mom so embarrassing. She called. God,
h it's Jimmy and Robin Burrow and study this morning
with a Gordy Snyder. I'm King of Marty Gray again
this year and Northern Kentucky Convention Center on Tuesday, February seventeenth.
All of it benefits homeless children in Cincinnati. It's our
Bethy House, It's Brighton Center, It's Welcome House, and all

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the proceeds, one hundred percent of it go to feed
homeless kids for an entire year here in the Tristate
area in Northern Kentucky as well. We've got all these
fifty restaurants mentioned the restaurants Gordy. But the other element
of this, because it's Marty Gras and Bourbon Street is Bourbon.

Speaker 11 (01:09:20):
There's plenty of livations there as you know Bourbon, and
of course there's craft beers and wine and all kinds
of other beverages as well.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
You know, you can and that's why I have in
northern Kentucky because Ohio just ban it so we can't.

Speaker 4 (01:09:33):
We can't go home hungry.

Speaker 11 (01:09:34):
Yeah, and we recommend uber for everybody else.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
Oh yeah, you got hotels right across the street.

Speaker 4 (01:09:41):
Hotels across the street.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
I'll tell you what makes one hell of a Valentine's
Day gift?

Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
Yeah, it does. And Christmas, we've got Christmas coming up.

Speaker 11 (01:09:48):
They can jump on right now on our website at
Marti Gras Nky dot org. Or they could go to
Marti gra twenty twenty six dot org. Either one of those.
They'll get them to the place where they could do
a sponsorship or buy tickets. We'd love to have everybody, uh,
you know, at the event and help support homeless children
throughout our Greater Cincinnati community.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
And it's such a it's such a special night. We
always have a blast, not only m seeing it raising
the money, but just such a great vibe. And it's
you know, it's not a uh you're there for like
three or four hours and it's it's a perfect middle
winter kind of thing to do.

Speaker 4 (01:10:20):
Well.

Speaker 11 (01:10:20):
They got to stick around until the live auction is
done and then the silent auction ends around nine o'clock.
So if they got bids in on the silent auction,
that'd be a.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
Great if you liked. If you liked the bid on.
My wife is a degenerate bidder of things. There's no
shortage of things to bid on.

Speaker 4 (01:10:37):
Lush puppy machine.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
Should I tell the story? Go ahead, it's a great story.
One year I was years ago, they got slush puppy machines,
you know, you like the They make them here in Cincinnati,
which I didn't know untill I hosted the event, and
so they auction them off like you have your own
slush puppet machine, and uh, there's it looked like the
floor of the Stock Exchange. People are screaming each other
other thing and I'm like, what is going on out there?

(01:10:59):
And it's like I'd know these two people in a
bidding war of a slushing machine. It's up to like
five six thousand dollars or something like that, and I'm like,
I wonder what, Oh my god, it's my wife.

Speaker 9 (01:11:08):
So I.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
Run over and say, okay, I know it's for charity.
You're all caught up in the morning. Do you really
want to spend that kind of Money's like, yeah, okay,
so let it go. And next sure she got one
of the more reasonable but still, I mean it goes
to a charity. It's like she loses her mind with
stuff like that. It's a degenerate when it comes to chairity.
Why is that You just gave him a look? Yes
you can come on over, Come on over, Robin. You're

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giving Jimmy a look like one of you two is
guilty of the same thing.

Speaker 10 (01:11:37):
Right, Well, we definitely have enjoyed some margarita's and slushies
in Baton Rouge at Tailgates, so we understand what you're
talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
That's a great idea for Tailgate. I I may have to, yeah,
get a converter for that, need a generator for that.

Speaker 12 (01:11:57):
That thing sucks a lot of juice.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
I couldn't give away a margarite on Sunday.

Speaker 4 (01:12:03):
Now I don't have to worry about frozen and.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Oh no, you know you come back to this frozen
like it's a popsicle at this point too. Soeah, it's
gonna be a little cold. It's a little chili out
there for the game. Now you're in town. You're going
you're gonna be the in the suite though, right, not gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
Brave it outside.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Oh you're gonna tell get outside.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
All right.

Speaker 12 (01:12:19):
We have a good contingent every every Sunday and this
this week, like you said, it's gonna be cold, but
it's cold. Uh, we'll be there.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
I was just in Buffalo last weekend for that game,
and yeah, you're there, and that's that's real Western I
grew up there, so it's all real Western New York
snow up there. And it was and what the wind is?
Fortunately there's no wind and I hoping on Sunday there's
no wind. Yeah that's what that's what does you're a
quarterback and throwing the football. It's not so much the
cold and even the snow, it's it's when the wind's swirling.

(01:12:51):
So I'm always checking the weather. But it looks like
maybe that part of it will be okay, Yeah, in
those days it's hard to throw is you know, you
gotta rely more on the running. Obviously we don't want
to get into x's and those here, but uh yeah,
looking forward to game on on Sunday, for sure, and
hopefully Bengals can go on a little run and get
things right for the for the rest of the season
for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:13:09):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
It is Marty gra for homeless Kids. Uh and it's
being presented by a friend of the Joe Burrow Foundation
for the first time Joe Burrow Foundations involved into perfect
Fit because it's Marty Gras. That'd be the LSU connection.
And it's feeding homeless kids, which the Borough Foundation it
is designed to do because of food insecurity, not just
here but Louisiana and also in in Athens. How much

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time you guys spend up in Cincinnati now often quite
a bit.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
We uh you know, we're in We're in Athens.

Speaker 12 (01:13:37):
We're in Cincinnati, uh As I said, there's a lot
of different events going on. We like to come hang
out with Joe every so often, and uh we we
still try to get down the baton.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
Rouge nice the Joe Burrow Foundation.

Speaker 12 (01:13:51):
We have a separate board in Louisiana and uh then
then Ohio, but we still do the same things. You
can go to Joe Burrow and just learned the things
that we're doing with children's mental health, food and security
and the Marty Grawl and so we're honored to be
a part of that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
Joe's honored to be a part.

Speaker 12 (01:14:11):
Of this and uh, hopefully we can raise a lot
of money and and help feed homeless children.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
Jimmy got a new head coach down there at LSU.
We well that's who they wanted.

Speaker 12 (01:14:22):
So I've known the Kiffin family for a long time.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
Lane's dead.

Speaker 12 (01:14:28):
Monti Kiffin was my defensive coordinator at Nebraska when I played.
H kind of my mentor through the years, uh uh coaching.
He recently passed away, unfortunately. But h LSU fans are
fired up. Doesn't take a lot to get them fired up.
They'll they'll go have a drink, no matter a lot,
Marty Gral Bourbon Street LSU Tiger football games and so

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they're excited.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
That's a whole different vibe down there in Baton Rouge.

Speaker 12 (01:14:58):
We we learned basically how to tillgate at the proper
shoe and we've passed that along to the Bengals game.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
Wow, what's the what's the LSU tradition? Tullgey? What's big
there besides margarita fish?

Speaker 3 (01:15:11):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
The crossish. Okay, so they actually do the ros but if.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
You claim Florida then they'll they'll roast roast gear.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
About you already noticed his beads here is you got
a little crawfish.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
Yeah, we have anybody doing.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
We've seen crawfish there. But what about the gator bytes Courty, Well,
we can probably work work that out for Marti Groan.
I've got the seventeenth of February. I got some time
to deal with session. Probably could find a gator.

Speaker 10 (01:15:37):
Right, yeah, get a big gumbo pot.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Somebody's got to have a gumbo pot. You got to
throw it in the newspaper, right, Just how you lay
the newspaper on the table.

Speaker 10 (01:15:45):
Yeah, well yeah, on a table, yes, And then they
have big holes that you put the tails and whatever
it is that you don't eat from a crawfish. I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
But are the heads? I think the heads? I tell
you to know you suck the head, right, I don't
know that. You're just there for the shrimp and the end, Dewey. Yeah, okay,
got it.

Speaker 12 (01:16:03):
It's a it's the crawfish is more a social thing
than yes, but people love them down there and that's
that's a big.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
That's part of it here too. So yeah again, great,
have you guys in the studio this morning. Very nice
to meet you both. And Steak stay warm on Sunday
for the game. Having me really look forward to, are
you guys. Yeah, hopefully see in February too. That's gonna
be awesome. So I'll be the guy on the big
thing with the hat and the cape on and then
people throw bread at me. I'm going to be that guy.

(01:16:33):
I'm that Oh my gosh, I'm going to be comeback
talk show host of the Year and next after I
get her this assault with bread here for our friends
from Closterman. By the way, thanks.

Speaker 11 (01:16:45):
Someone I should mention too throwing bread at me.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
Now you just got pelted again by Robin just two for.

Speaker 4 (01:16:53):
Two Mercedespens a Fort Mitchell.

Speaker 11 (01:16:56):
Yeah, and the Why We're Family Foundation are back for
the thirteen year to be our events sponsors.

Speaker 4 (01:17:01):
So oh good.

Speaker 11 (01:17:02):
Yeah, So we're exciting excited to have Joe Burrow Foundation
as our tent sponsor, and then Mercedes Spends and those
folks are back as our event sponsors this year and
they provide the free parking right across the street in.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
The oh cool in the Kenton County Don Pepperella's team.
Great guys over there's right, Mercedi Spends.

Speaker 4 (01:17:19):
We're excited to have them back to awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
All right, Well, I look forward to seeing everybody on
the seventeenth Core to yourself included. We have all sorts
of festivities with now and then we've got football on Sunday,
and the weekend is just about here. Scott's loan. Thanks
for coming in, y'all. Good to meet you, Thanks you
ask Thanks seven hundred WW.

Speaker 5 (01:17:37):
The weekend's coming up and you need to make the
most of it. Where to go and what to do.
She has the tips in inside to help you make
it us super weekend. So listen up. This is the
local Loop with Allie Martin on seven hundred w l W.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
Well, some of us made it in today to do
our jobs. Allie Martin did not. She's gonna sit on
her throne talk to me on the phone from from
her home because who had a half inch of snow?

Speaker 7 (01:18:03):
Good job, you know, and this is this is the
winter to come in because I actually have four.

Speaker 3 (01:18:08):
Wheel drive now no motor I have zero.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
Ex rolling on the motorcycle anymore. It's like it's that
cycle season. And I know you're flying out today where
some are warm. So it's all good, Aley Martin Local
Loop this morning on seven hundred ww whatever we do
it sure is how better be inside this weekend?

Speaker 7 (01:18:27):
He amanda that And I feel like you're just trying
to pick a fight with me right now? Why And
I'm not mad about it because Phone, I have this
weird desire and this is not this isn't a good
thing to say out loud, but I've always wanted to
get into a bar fight. And now have you heard
about this? The fight Club, which we talked about probably
about a year and a half ago when they talked

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about this open is officially open. And this is that
dark bar that like Victorian back bare ground charm meets
traditional pub warm, but it's all focus on darks and
it finally opened in the old Saxfifth Avenue building and
today is the grand opening. All right, fight, I'm ready

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to start a fight.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
It's flight Club flight Club or fight club.

Speaker 7 (01:19:13):
Fight Club should be flight Club.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
It should be flight Club, but they call it Fight Club.

Speaker 7 (01:19:18):
Yeah yeah, I saw a little background around this that
actually started in London in twenty fifteen. There's only ten
locations here in North America, so it's cool that, you know,
they wanted to target Cincinnati. I take the style and
the vibe, what fifth it has. As I said, it's
like Victorian but London's Irish English pub feel almost kind

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of circus esque, and they have multiple different playing stations
where you can rent out and play darts. It's a
pretty big space. It can accommodate up to two hundred
and seventy people. And the dark technology behind it. It's
a Pride Harry, so they own it. It's a little
bit of different angles behind that.

Speaker 12 (01:20:04):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:20:04):
So if you're someone who likes the traditional keep score
on your own, it might be a little too high
tacked for you. But I will say it's a it's
a vibe, it's a good time. They have a great
craft cocktail list. They have a full menu list, and
what's appreciated is a lot of these items on the
food menu. It's all it's a lot of shareable stuff,
a lot of sliders and packos and wings and flatbreads

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and and they I also appreciate a pre constructed platter
where it's just a range of a whole lot of
different things. So it's it's an awesome space that it
opens today today, it's the grand opening. So I'm ready
to fight somebody.

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
If it's kind of like a top gulf of darts.

Speaker 7 (01:20:46):
Yeah, yeah, no, truthfully, it is that it is the top.
It's the top gulf of darts, but it's inside and
I'm here to support that. And I saw.

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
Some pictures and the aesthetic is really cool. You mentioned
that Victorian kind of a lot of paneling. It's kind
of dark in there.

Speaker 3 (01:21:01):
I mean, perfect for the winner, Perfect for the winner.

Speaker 7 (01:21:04):
And that's the other thing. It's like, you don't have
to go and play darks. You could just go and
hang out at the bar because of the ambiance and
the light. So I feel like this we've been talking
about going and needing to get a happy hour. I
think this is the spot.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
Yeah, that would be a good spot, right. I like
the I like the technology that keeps score for you.
That's pretty good.

Speaker 7 (01:21:24):
Yeah, after a couple of drinks. I am not doing
anything that is going to claim that I'm with cheaters.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
It was the greatest win. And I remember when bowling
changed over from the you know, the auto scoring and
the compute. It's like, oh my guy, I don't have
to have that overhead projector anymore. I don't have to
do math. This is great, all right? So fight Club
that is Where's it again?

Speaker 7 (01:21:46):
So in the old Sacks Fifth Avenue building. I mean
it's the primetime location that we've been talking about, right
next to Thoualdar. So that whole area is really coming
alive again. And I think this is going to be
a great addition, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:21:59):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
So tomorrow is bank robbery Day.

Speaker 7 (01:22:01):
In Cincinnati aka Santa Colin.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
Forget what movie that was, and it was Bill Murray.
You know, a bunch of a bunch of Santa Claus
is runner. I maybe he's a clown in that one,
I forget, But there's a lot of running arounds, like
you want to have a bank Today's today? It was
a guy in the red suit with a beard officer.

Speaker 7 (01:22:19):
Same thing with Tim Allen in the Santa Claus. We're
looking for a guy.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
I know, red suit, perfect, perfect, perfect.

Speaker 7 (01:22:27):
So yeah, if you want to rob a bank tomorrow,
do it. Don't tell us, don't tell him that we
sent you right, But yeah, this is if you're downtown
or if you're in Mount Adams, northern Kentucky and you
just see seas of red, it is because of this. Also,
if you haven't participated, it is a lot of fun.
There's an early registration of ten dollars, so that closes

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today at midnight. You still have a chance to do that.
And this includes a donation to be the pediator of
cancer research, which is always good to get back a
little bit. And day of registration is fifteen dollars. One
thing that they are doing differently this year, which I
am a fan of coos and cons is they have
multiple risk band pick up locations. It used to just

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be at the casino, so now they have it at Moreline, Rosedale,
the Pitch, may Malone's d Line, which is the one
on Newport on the Levy, and Flora and Flair Up
in Adams. There are over fifty bars in restaurants that
are participating. So really it's just dress up and if
then go out and drink and it's a debauchery and

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it's a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
And is the is the predicted snowfall tomorrow going to
kill Santa Con. Santa should show up regardless how much
snow there is.

Speaker 7 (01:23:43):
Technically I host the numbers picked up because of it.
This is if you're going to participate in Sanacon, this
is the year to do it. Yeah, no matter what,
make sure you're ubering. But what is more magical the
fact that we had snow before. It's fustiness. This is
great embraces.

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
Yeah, I wonder if you get that many Santa Claus
Santa Clai downtown, are you going to have enough ubers
to support Santa should?

Speaker 7 (01:24:08):
Should they just have their own slaves.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
At the point right, at some point you just let
the reindeer do it for you.

Speaker 3 (01:24:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
So it's always cool to see that too, and just
sand people standing up and you know, drunk Santa is
very fun.

Speaker 7 (01:24:20):
Have you done Santacon?

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
No, I have not been. I've not dressed up, but
I've been around when Santa's out there. It's a lot
of fun.

Speaker 7 (01:24:27):
I feel like you would enjoy it. If you ever
get the chair, you really want to go all the
way to the top, do the New York then there's
nothing better.

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
Really, thousands of Santa Claus thousands.

Speaker 7 (01:24:38):
Nothing like getting off the subway, and I mean it
is the Sti's is cool, but again it's New York.
There's nothing like it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:46):
How do you find that? So you typically would go Santa,
but you go with a group of people who are
not dressed as Sanda or maybe other sandas. How do
you find one another?

Speaker 7 (01:24:54):
That is a oh you know? How you do it?
You share locations for twenty four hours?

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
Yeah, but it's not that accurate. You still have to
you would have to literally stand next to each other
the whole time. Otherwise forget it.

Speaker 7 (01:25:09):
Truly, Well, if you are you could do Sometimes they
have different colored sand a hat. I mean obviously red
is some traditionals, so you could go green and stand
out a little bit more. But yeah, I would just recommend.
That's the other tip, use share my location for twenty
four hours if you can't find your fellow.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
How do bartenders manage that? If you have a tab?

Speaker 7 (01:25:33):
Oh that's a good push? Yeah, what do you put
it on your claws? Well?

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
No, it's like okay, uh wait, wait do you wait?
Who's tad? Okay? I ordered three? No, I had three
mick cultures and what do you It's like, I don't
know whose tab that would go on, but uh, that's that.
These are the dumb things I think of. Anyway, what
else we got going on this weekend? Am?

Speaker 7 (01:25:52):
Oh man, We're going to completely switch it up, and
I mean, I guess it's Polly and it's jolly, but people,
if you like, what is it the nightmare before Christmas?

Speaker 3 (01:25:59):
Oh yeah, even could say.

Speaker 7 (01:26:00):
It's a Christmas sumber.

Speaker 3 (01:26:01):
I don't really know.

Speaker 7 (01:26:03):
Yeah, I'm kind of mad at myself. I mean, miss
talking about this last week because they're only doing it
too nights. And when I say they, I mean dead
Schoolhouse is doing a Christmas Nightmare and it was December sixth,
and then this Saturday is the only other Saturday coming
up on December thirteenth that they're doing it. And they're

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meshing the two holidays of Christmas and Halloween because people
know that Schoolhouse is being the haunted attraction during Halloween
season and it's transforming into a haunted winter wonderland and
it features characters like Crampis and Missus Clause Claws, Evil Elm.

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So they really just completely transform it into the world
the Horror Seam, which is really fun.

Speaker 6 (01:26:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:26:52):
So generalmissions thirty five bucks. You can do a fast
past for fifty five and then the front of the
line for seventy five. Again, it's only two nights. Last weekend,
it's gone and you got this weekend, and it's just
a really unique Yeah, it's a unique mash up. It's
something a little different if you're someone who really really
loves Halloween. And I feel like the people who love Halloween,

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they love Halloween and this to be the way that
they could get into the holiday spirit.

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
Gotcha, seventy five bucks for the front of the line.
Now that is better take your time going through.

Speaker 7 (01:27:22):
Man, it takes your time going through. There's no waiting
at all. But as someone who's the older, I gets like,
if I'm going to King's Island, I am that person
who's like, do I just buy a fast pass?

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
I probably do the fast pass because it's like, you
look at, okay, thirty five bucks general admission, fifty five
bucks for the fast pass. Is it worth twenty bucks
not to stand?

Speaker 3 (01:27:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:27:42):
Absolutely?

Speaker 7 (01:27:43):
Yeah? What is the so I guess, Yeah, there's two
different lines. You have general.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
Emission line, fast pass and then front of the line.

Speaker 7 (01:27:50):
In the front line, is you just walk right.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
Go right from your car, you walk right to the
front of the line. All right, So that's where.

Speaker 7 (01:27:56):
Is waiting in the cold?

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
Yeah, probably, Yeah, I'm going to wait a little bit
of cold anyway. All right. So that's a den schoolhouse
and the last night is tomorrow. So we got that
going on. Other holroided stuff. What else you got on
a last year? All right?

Speaker 7 (01:28:10):
We actually we really had a touched on it. I
know it's the classics, but the Holiday Junction, this is
one of those things that just don't forget about it.
This is the one that's every year happening over at
Duke Energy Center, and it started November fourteenth and it
does run until January fifth. But you know, as the
kids are getting out on holiday break and you're thinking

(01:28:30):
about things to do with them, this is such a
stainful attraction where there's over three hundred railcars and a
five hundred locomotives on display. It's super engaging. They have
a lot of different experiences throughout the Holiday Junction, like
they have this Northern Lights display, they do an interactive
story books, they'll have different holidays, scavenger hunts. They implemented

(01:28:53):
a new lego brick display, which is cool. So it
was very hands on for kids. Sana we'll pop in
here and there has already made a couple appearances at
the Holiday Junction this year in November. So it's just
one of those things that it's nice to shout out
and call out because it really is. It's a staple.
And there's just so much to do at the Sistani

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Museum Center, which I probably should have noted at the top.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
Well you got that right, You've got the Omni Max,
You've got the Children's museum. There's just so much going on,
and of course the train displaying all that too. The
Christmas Is Player is fantastic. It's just a it's a
great cool It's just a tradition right when you're a
little kid. If you grew up here, you went. I
took my kids there. I like going back from time
to time. It's really cool because you know, it's it's
the holidays, it's tradition. A lot of that stuff. They've

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had a lot of new stuff, but it's still the
you know, the same train set, the same dioramics. It's
it's expansive, it's awesome. I don't know what it is.
It's just I've been getting that age now. Old men
and young boys love.

Speaker 7 (01:29:50):
Trains, trains, model cars, airplanes. You love to talk about
World War two.

Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
All that stuff, all that stuff.

Speaker 7 (01:29:58):
This is this, This is for you, but I really care, Like,
forget about the kids. We love the kids of courses.
It's great for the kids. But like as an adult,
if you don't frequent this every year every once in
a while, it's easy for us. It's easy for us
number one to think about some of these things that
happen every single year. But it's a great date night spot.
And who doesn't like to say? Who doesn't like to

(01:30:18):
go look at three hundred different trains rolling around? And
usually the folks that are working there. I remember telling
this story years ago when I was at Channel nine.
There's a guy in particular that's been working there for
probably three decades at this point, and he could probably
tell you every thing that you need to know about
every single locomotive car on those train, cars on those tracks.

(01:30:39):
So they're knowledgeable and you can talk with them for
hours and yeah, I'm good, have a good time. This
is right up your alley. What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
No, I don't need to know the history of this train.
It's like just I just want to watch the train.
I don't need to know. I don't need it now.
I'm good. I'm good at that.

Speaker 4 (01:30:56):
I'm good.

Speaker 7 (01:30:57):
I bet you you think if somebody had a like
live TikTok running, do you think they could make I
bet they could make some extra cash. This is any
museum setter. If they just kept it going live on
teaktok yeah and YouTube, why not, people will be throwing
them money. I would watch that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:12):
It's good. It's I mean then in the splay, it's beautiful.
The work they put in putting that thing out there
is absolutely incredible. It really isn't so impressive every year,
you know, I I've thought of that. I don't know
if it's on a list or not. But this morning
driving I heard Steve Hawkins in for our Tom Brennman
this morning talking to the organizers of the Mount Adams
rain Dog Parade.

Speaker 7 (01:31:31):
Yes, let's go. This is the thirty six annual. I
can't believe this is been going on for thirty six years.
Dog Parade and costume contact. Have you ever been this?

Speaker 3 (01:31:43):
I have?

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
It's awesome.

Speaker 7 (01:31:45):
Oh yeah, nice. This is one of those This is
an event that I was asked to years ago, and
one of those I don't know. I guess I was
busy or I was able.

Speaker 3 (01:31:53):
To do it.

Speaker 7 (01:31:54):
And I'm kind of sad and I wish I would
have judged it, because it's just it's so fun. Dogs
in their owners, dressed in festive holiday costumes. It's a
parade throughout historic Mount Adams. It's led by the Grand Marshals.
Uh and who doesn't like to see just a bunch
of dogs wattling around the little Santas Right, I'm here

(01:32:16):
for this. There's raffles, there's different prizes you could potentially
win Bengals tickets, gift cards for Thunderdome, and a wide
range of different bars and restaurants around town. And it's
just a really, really great time and you can participate
in the parade, and then of course up on the
hill there's Crowley's and a whole bunch of different places

(01:32:36):
that you can go to afterwards.

Speaker 2 (01:32:38):
Yeah, and it's they have judges and you bring your
dog out. You have a good time because dogs and
Christmas go together, especially if it's the You think they
have this in over the Rain as opposed to Mount
Adams for the Rain, dog prey, but then you'd have
to call it the Rhine dog paraded, and it doesn't.
They're not riind deer, they're reindeer.

Speaker 7 (01:32:57):
And then it's getting way too confusing.

Speaker 2 (01:33:00):
You're not even drunk.

Speaker 7 (01:33:04):
One of those things. You don't need to change it.
If it isn't broke, don't fix it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:09):
You just wonder if the people in over the Rhine
are like, man, we really we should have done that,
damn it.

Speaker 7 (01:33:16):
And here's the other thing too, because it's supposed to snow.
Do you think that if you don't have four wheel
drive and you're trying to get us about Adams, good luck,
like your dog better be.

Speaker 3 (01:33:25):
Poor, right right?

Speaker 2 (01:33:26):
Or if it's Sarah's dog where the belly and the
nipples scrape on the ground, I guess maybe they could
be like like a dog plow for the other ones.
She's uh, she's Alli Martin, Yeah, yeah uh. There are
some salt to put them on, little salt things on
our back and to go anyway. So we got that
going on this weekend, and it's gonna be bitterly cold.

(01:33:47):
On Sunday, we have football at pay Corps. You got
to be crazy to be going to that, especially since
the Bengals are really not playing for anything. Ravens fan
maybe a different story, but we shall see. Alli have
a great weekend. Appreciated She's at Allie Martin eight and
of course Good Drama is her show on YouTube. Catch
that when you can appreciate it. We'll talk next week.

Speaker 3 (01:34:05):
Stay warm, appreciate you. I will be fine and I
know you will.

Speaker 2 (01:34:12):
I hate her, I hate her, I hate her.

Speaker 4 (01:34:15):
Love you tole me too.

Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
Be safe. Travel well there you go, bring us some sunshine.
Sloaney with Willy on the way next on the Home
of the Best Bengals coverage seven hundred WUD since now

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