December 16, 2025 • 15 mins
Scott talks with Councilmember Anna Albi about the freeing of the food trucks downtown.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Don't want to be an Americans got flown back on
seven hundred wlw welcome to it. We are out of
the deep freeze into just the regular freeze right now,
starting off today, the city has reversed it's a controversial
eleven PM cut off for food trucks. I know, not
too many people lining up for a slice of pie
(00:20):
at two o'clock in the morning when it's thirty five
thousand degrees below zero. But nonetheless things have been right
I guess wrongs have been righted here. Initially you may
recalls a public safety issue because of crime. It was
a city manager office just issued an edict and declared
that's it. You got to shut everything down at eleven
mero on the bar's rubble at two o'clock and if
you want something to eat when you're leaving at closing time,
(00:42):
your sol The complaint was that too many people were
gathering and causing problems and having street beefs. And again
that sounds like an enforcement issue. Why punish the vendor.
But at least a little bit of common senses have
been restored, and she's been leading the charge on this.
Council Member Anna Alby, welcome back.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
How you been good. Thanks so much for having me
this story.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
It feels like a win, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
It does? It does. No, I'm glad that, you know,
working with the administration, we were able to hit this
kind of compromise to move the the end time go
back to one am on Fridays and Saturdays and Sundays. Yeah. Great.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
It seems so punitive too that and it was sure
a long city manager just simply said this is the
way it's going to be, you know, kind of like
an executive order almost, And that's the part that struck
me is awful is the fact that there was no input.
There was no input from the food truck vendors, There
was no input from businesses or people. They simply move
forward as like an emergency order. That was the troubling
(01:38):
part about this because none of it made sense, but
only to share a loan.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, I totally agree. And right now we're in a
phase where the administrations having active conversations with the Food
Truck Association, which is something that it comes to member
Mark Jeffries, Vice Mary Michelle when McCarney and I were
all like, hey, have you talked to the food truck
And initially when this edict as you call it, came
down at the eleven pm cutoff. They hadn't they hadn't
(02:04):
yet talked to them, and in fact, it took a
handful of weeks in coordination through City Council to actually
get the administration and the food Truck Association in contact.
They even have these conversations, so they are chatting now,
and my understanding is there could be more changes coming.
But to me, it's this open dialogue and looking at
this holistically and not just coming down with this like
(02:25):
big eleven pm cut off without the broader conversation.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah, and it makes sense. Did you look at any
did you have any data or analysis that convinced you
eleven o'clock wasn't justified?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah? Absolutely. So that was another thing that I really
hounded administration on the very first time they showed up
the Council, because they came and gave kind of an
oral presentation. I said, hey, where's the data. So they
did come back to us with some data points about
a couple hotspot areas where food trucks typically gather. But
I'll be honest, the numbers were not compelling. They kind
of compared a year over year before and after this,
(02:58):
eleven PM was put in place, and at best it
was kind of a neutral implementation, and that was really
what led me and couple member Jeffreys to continue to
push back to say, hey, this data is not supporting that,
this is making it different. Now, there could still be
issues that you mentioned at the top here that you know,
there were some issues of people gathering. Great, let's look
(03:19):
at the enforcement and what's actually causing that.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Something I've been interested in is is there something happening
at the bars nearby? Is they're over serving? Are there
other things happening not that that are separate from the
food trucks?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Right? And bars can hopital two o'clock, but the food
trucks can't. And I guess this this compromise is a
little bit better here too. So it's one o'clock as
opposed to three am after the bar is closed. But
what happens if all of a sudden, hey, we start
having fights and problems around the food trucks. To me,
that seems more whether it's you know, one am or
(03:52):
three am, that's a criminal enforcement issue shouldn't be on
the food truck vendors.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I agree, And the one am the concept there is,
give the CPD and everyone about an hour to clear
out before the bar is closed, right, right, So get
people home because part of the issue was people were
getting out of the bars, going to the food truck
and then hanging out for hours longer, well into the
morning time. So this actually has that cut off a
(04:17):
little bit before the bars get out, so people can
go home and kind of clear out. So hopefully that will,
you know, handle that issue with the crowds. But if
there are issues going forward, to your point, let's look
at what's happening, what's causing it. You know, since time police,
we pride ourselves on being problem solvers, and to me,
this just takes a little bit more problem solving and
(04:38):
investigations to really figure out what's going on. If there
are issues, I'm not convinced there will be knock on words. Yeah,
hopefully everyone will be on their good behavior and we
can enjoy everything food trucks bring to our city.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Right you mentioned you know, maybe there's further discussions here
with the Food Truck Association specifically, could could you wind
up extending hours at some point?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I think everything's on the table right now. One of
the questions even to who's responsible kind of the areas
around you know, how do we make sure we understand
where food trucks are setting up, who's responsible in the
perimeter of the food truck, you know, trash or litters
left behind? So all those things are in conversation now
and again at the end of the day. My goal
here is one absolutely ensure safety, but two make sure
(05:23):
these small businesses have an opportunity to grow and thrive. Right,
our food trucks are often the first step into getting
a brick and mortar and these are a lot of
small businesses, very narrow margins, right, They're independent operators who
are just trying to get a leg up here. So
I'm hoping that in these conversations we can figure out
for both sides here, right, public safety, the public spicks,
(05:43):
but also say, the food truck you know, what does
this industry need to grow and thrive while so making
sure everyone's safe at.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
The end of the day and all, but we're still
going to have crime. And it's a big city, so
you will have that. But I think by any metric,
any measure, and any you know, it doesn't pass a
sniff test. As how we've been approaching crime in the
city for a long time now, and it looks like
the things starting to turn to the right way as
opposed to giving people, you know, enough elbow space and
free birth to do what they want. The problem is
(06:11):
it just victimizes business. I bring this up because in Madisonville,
I don't know if you heard the story not, it's a
place called the Cheese Kkery and Liz Field is the
owner there. She started her business looks like a nice
little shop in that she said she's gonna have to
close now. And the reason she has to close is
because of what we're talking about here, and that is
an element that is causing her employees to quit and drow.
(06:31):
She can't stay open now. Part of this, of course,
is the economic climate. We can't ignore the fact that
their sales are down significantly because of the economy. But
it doesn't help when largely female workers there are being
harassed by teenagers who are running around, screaming, throwing things,
stealing from the store, leaving trash around, threatening employees because
they're not giving them free items. You have homeless people
(06:53):
or homeless man confronting employees and customers makes them feel unsafe.
And it's not just her, it's other businesses on the
street there Madisonville, let's see the same thing. So it's
not isolated. And I bring this up because Lempika by
Jeff Ruby is closing and part of the concern there
with safety downtown. So whether it's downtown in the central
Business District or right next to the aaronof Center or
(07:13):
in Madisonville, it's part of a bigger problem here and
that is crime that is helping destroy business. In the
food truck thing didn't help relative to Madisonville. I'm sure
you're aware of this, and if you're on only informed
you that's not a good look for the city.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
You know, this is Liza the Chief Sakries is a
neighbors So when I saw her do her initial post
on Facebook, I reached out immediately and we had CPD
in contact with her. And you know, I think with
the Sunday night, by Monday morning, they're reaching out and
you know, I think ultimately she posted last night or yesterday,
I think that she's been working with a mentor and
(07:50):
the decision she's making is frankly, to simplify her business.
So they need to grow, so they're going to focus
on their one storefront and Anderson. You know, it is,
to your point, is a tough economic clignment right now
for small businesses, So expanding having to deal with two
storefronts is obviously going to be a bigger lift than one.
So the post she put most recently on Facebook was
(08:11):
all around kind of focusing their efforts in that one
store in Anderson, really kind of simplifying their operations. So
I hope the best privilege. Like I said, she's a friend,
she's a neighbor. I love the Chiefe Cakery. My parents
live in Anderson, so I'll still be able to enjoy
her products when i go down to visit them, So
you know, I'm hoping the best for her. And you know, ultimately,
(08:31):
you know, Cincinnati, we are tackling, you know, all public
safety across the board head on. And we've actually in Madisonville,
our crime stats have looked really good for the year,
and I'm actually very proud of kind of what our
neighborhood has done over the past decades plus where we
are a safe neighborhood where people are out and about,
And really what I'm excited for in our business district
(08:53):
is actually more businesses in the vacant storefronts, because that's
really what's going to activate the Madisonvilleusiness District is getting
more people into that space, more businesses, more vitality. And
that's what I want in every neighborhood, right, Like when
I picture kind of what a city is, right, you
want to stay kind of people bustling around, going into
storefronts and all of that. So that is my goal
(09:14):
for here at Madisonville, but across the entire city.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I think part of the problem too, talking too CPD
officers there and you may know this as well, in particular,
one homeless person individual is causing a lot of the
problems as well in cops quite honestly because of the
Irish rawleys, because of the homeless coalitions and the like.
If they start running those people off, individuals like that off,
then you bear their wrath. And the administration seems to
(09:36):
lean on the side of you know, the homeless and
the indigen as opposed to business owners. That I think
that's also part of the problem. Is that starting to change.
Are we starting to have more balance or is that
just simply incorrect from police officers.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Well, let me just talk about so we have a
gentleman in our neighborhood and he struggles with mental health.
He's a known person in our neighborhood and frankly, many
of the neighbors, residents, store owners here take care of him.
He has frequent in other places like mad MoMA and
they'll get coffee, you know, keep them warm. He'll often
go into our public library that's right there. They are
(10:08):
the staff, They're familiar with him. He is a part
of our community, and frankly, having mental issues is not
a crime, right Like I am not here to criminalize
people who are struggling. We need to make sure we're
connecting them with the care and services they need. So again,
when I contact the CPD in the city administration about
this whole chiefcake free thing, I made sure that we
(10:29):
understood that this gentleman it was put in touch with
the people he needed to to make sure that he
was on his care plan and getting what he needs.
Because again, at the end of the day, we want
to make sure everyone is safe in our community and
those who are struggling with mental illnesses, so we got
to get them into the care that they need so
everyone's face and feels comfortable.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I'm fine with what you said was getting someone in
need care. I mean, we just saw what happened with
Rob Bryner and his wife was just terrific. Mental health
looks like a significant mental health crisis. There are issues
for sure with I don't know the full story yet,
but uh, at some point we will uh in getting
the people. You know, and this is a whole separate
topic about mental health, which is a big deal for me.
And you know, I focus some some of the portion
(11:12):
of the show on that weekly because it is a
problem in America.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
But you know that that attitude is great, but at
the same time, you have to look at it and go, well,
if they're harming and they're threatening people, they don't feel
safe and workers are quitting. To me, that crosses the
line and there's got to be more strict intervention on that.
But it doesn't mean you're cruel because you're segregating someone
or punishment or whatever it might be. I think you
also can you know, have two two kid glove a
(11:37):
feel where I mean, it's not entirely the reason why
the cheese cakeory is closing, but make no mistake about it,
but it's a it's a part of the reason you
can't keep employees because they're afraid of this one individual.
We can't have that.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I agree, And you know, in this situation, I don't
know all the reasons. You know, it's made her decision.
Sounds like she's working with a mentor. Now. Like what
I can say is there are other businesses and organizations
in Madisonville that are familiar with this gentleman and have
not had the same issues and he and frankly, I'll
be honest. I the next day received many calls from
(12:12):
Madisonville community leaders, community council, the business chamber, the development corporation,
many of them who were worried about this gentleman safety
himself because posts online were so threatening towards this man
that people were going to hunt him down, that people
were worried about his safety. So you know, again, we
don't want to create any hype of environment where anyone put.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yeah, she is a council member, Anna, I'll be on
the show. We have a new food truck law in Cincinnati.
They have eased back on the restrictions closing stuff down
eleven o'clock and where you can congregate, and like, is
that also part of the issue too, is where the
food truck set up because it seems to me the
whole purpose of the food truck is putting the parking
the truck where people are. We talked about different zones
and areas, but uh, you know, I think, you know,
(12:56):
within reason, it should be up to the person who
owns the truck or drive truct determine where the crowd
is to feed them.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yeah, and right now, the ordinance that council pass right
before I got on opened up those parking to kind
of anywhere there's a parking space food trucks can go.
They still congregate in places where you would sink right
ear bars in your activities, right, you don't want to
be off, you know, far away from everything. But I
do think it's worth a conversation with the administration because
(13:24):
if one of the questions is how do we make
the areas around food truck safer, well, do we need
to consolidate and come back to food truck zone that
are in those you know, fun area areas of the
town to make sure that we can have you know,
maybe extra patrols in that space, or that we're actually
providing additional safety with a well lisp spot. So I
think there's probably a middle ground here right somewhere between,
(13:47):
go wherever you want, and you can only be in
this one spot that somehow gives us a balance into Hey,
we want you to be close to where all the
fun things are happening, but we also want to have
an idea of where you're going to be. That way,
we can make sure that you're in a spot that
has you know, good lighting cameras. Maybe we have an
extra officer patrol nearby just in case. So I'm hoping
(14:08):
the conversations with the city administration, the food Truck Association
can talk through all this because I think that is
what will hopefully get us to the best outcome at
the end.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Well, ultimately, once you right size the police staff right
where one hundred and fifty officers short, now we're working.
We're behind the eight ball, working to try and get
more on the street. But that's part of the problems.
You don't have patrols out there to saturate areas where
people congregate, and so you just respond and you chase
calls as opposed to having a visible presence. Every time
I'm downtown, I do see more mark units, whether it's
CPD or sheriff's vehicles that are just simply parked there,
(14:39):
and that's a deterrent I would think for a lot
of people because they think, you know, obviously an officer
is close by, and so adding more patrols and officers
is going to help remedy the situation and everyone can
have fun again in our city and that's what it
should be about. And I'll be a council member. Thanks
so much for joining the show this morning. Great to
talk to you. And happy holidays.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, thanks so much, Happy holidays, Take care.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
All the best. I got to get a news update
in in just minutes on the Big one seven hundred
WLW when we return here on the Scott Slan Show.
Just made me think of something, how this is related
to what happens Sunday at pay Corpse Stadium. Wait, what
what do food trucks have to do with pay Corpse Stadium?
I'll tell you coming up after news on seven hundred
WW
Don't want to be an Americans got flown back on
seven hundred wlw welcome to it. We are out of
the deep freeze into just the regular freeze right now,
starting off today, the city has reversed it's a controversial
eleven PM cut off for food trucks. I know, not
too many people lining up for a slice of pie
(00:20):
at two o'clock in the morning when it's thirty five
thousand degrees below zero. But nonetheless things have been right
I guess wrongs have been righted here. Initially you may
recalls a public safety issue because of crime. It was
a city manager office just issued an edict and declared
that's it. You got to shut everything down at eleven
mero on the bar's rubble at two o'clock and if
you want something to eat when you're leaving at closing time,
(00:42):
your sol The complaint was that too many people were
gathering and causing problems and having street beefs. And again
that sounds like an enforcement issue. Why punish the vendor.
But at least a little bit of common senses have
been restored, and she's been leading the charge on this.
Council Member Anna Alby, welcome back.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
How you been good. Thanks so much for having me
this story.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
It feels like a win, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
It does? It does. No, I'm glad that, you know,
working with the administration, we were able to hit this
kind of compromise to move the the end time go
back to one am on Fridays and Saturdays and Sundays. Yeah. Great.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
It seems so punitive too that and it was sure
a long city manager just simply said this is the
way it's going to be, you know, kind of like
an executive order almost, And that's the part that struck
me is awful is the fact that there was no input.
There was no input from the food truck vendors, There
was no input from businesses or people. They simply move
forward as like an emergency order. That was the troubling
(01:38):
part about this because none of it made sense, but
only to share a loan.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, I totally agree. And right now we're in a
phase where the administrations having active conversations with the Food
Truck Association, which is something that it comes to member
Mark Jeffries, Vice Mary Michelle when McCarney and I were
all like, hey, have you talked to the food truck
And initially when this edict as you call it, came
down at the eleven pm cutoff. They hadn't they hadn't
(02:04):
yet talked to them, and in fact, it took a
handful of weeks in coordination through City Council to actually
get the administration and the food Truck Association in contact.
They even have these conversations, so they are chatting now,
and my understanding is there could be more changes coming.
But to me, it's this open dialogue and looking at
this holistically and not just coming down with this like
(02:25):
big eleven pm cut off without the broader conversation.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah, and it makes sense. Did you look at any
did you have any data or analysis that convinced you
eleven o'clock wasn't justified?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah? Absolutely. So that was another thing that I really
hounded administration on the very first time they showed up
the Council, because they came and gave kind of an
oral presentation. I said, hey, where's the data. So they
did come back to us with some data points about
a couple hotspot areas where food trucks typically gather. But
I'll be honest, the numbers were not compelling. They kind
of compared a year over year before and after this,
(02:58):
eleven PM was put in place, and at best it
was kind of a neutral implementation, and that was really
what led me and couple member Jeffreys to continue to
push back to say, hey, this data is not supporting that,
this is making it different. Now, there could still be
issues that you mentioned at the top here that you know,
there were some issues of people gathering. Great, let's look
(03:19):
at the enforcement and what's actually causing that.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Something I've been interested in is is there something happening
at the bars nearby? Is they're over serving? Are there
other things happening not that that are separate from the
food trucks?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Right? And bars can hopital two o'clock, but the food
trucks can't. And I guess this this compromise is a
little bit better here too. So it's one o'clock as
opposed to three am after the bar is closed. But
what happens if all of a sudden, hey, we start
having fights and problems around the food trucks. To me,
that seems more whether it's you know, one am or
(03:52):
three am, that's a criminal enforcement issue shouldn't be on
the food truck vendors.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I agree, And the one am the concept there is,
give the CPD and everyone about an hour to clear
out before the bar is closed, right, right, So get
people home because part of the issue was people were
getting out of the bars, going to the food truck
and then hanging out for hours longer, well into the
morning time. So this actually has that cut off a
(04:17):
little bit before the bars get out, so people can
go home and kind of clear out. So hopefully that will,
you know, handle that issue with the crowds. But if
there are issues going forward, to your point, let's look
at what's happening, what's causing it. You know, since time police,
we pride ourselves on being problem solvers, and to me,
this just takes a little bit more problem solving and
(04:38):
investigations to really figure out what's going on. If there
are issues, I'm not convinced there will be knock on words. Yeah,
hopefully everyone will be on their good behavior and we
can enjoy everything food trucks bring to our city.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Right you mentioned you know, maybe there's further discussions here
with the Food Truck Association specifically, could could you wind
up extending hours at some point?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I think everything's on the table right now. One of
the questions even to who's responsible kind of the areas
around you know, how do we make sure we understand
where food trucks are setting up, who's responsible in the
perimeter of the food truck, you know, trash or litters
left behind? So all those things are in conversation now
and again at the end of the day. My goal
here is one absolutely ensure safety, but two make sure
(05:23):
these small businesses have an opportunity to grow and thrive. Right,
our food trucks are often the first step into getting
a brick and mortar and these are a lot of
small businesses, very narrow margins, right, They're independent operators who
are just trying to get a leg up here. So
I'm hoping that in these conversations we can figure out
for both sides here, right, public safety, the public spicks,
(05:43):
but also say, the food truck you know, what does
this industry need to grow and thrive while so making
sure everyone's safe at.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
The end of the day and all, but we're still
going to have crime. And it's a big city, so
you will have that. But I think by any metric,
any measure, and any you know, it doesn't pass a
sniff test. As how we've been approaching crime in the
city for a long time now, and it looks like
the things starting to turn to the right way as
opposed to giving people, you know, enough elbow space and
free birth to do what they want. The problem is
(06:11):
it just victimizes business. I bring this up because in Madisonville,
I don't know if you heard the story not, it's a
place called the Cheese Kkery and Liz Field is the
owner there. She started her business looks like a nice
little shop in that she said she's gonna have to
close now. And the reason she has to close is
because of what we're talking about here, and that is
an element that is causing her employees to quit and drow.
(06:31):
She can't stay open now. Part of this, of course,
is the economic climate. We can't ignore the fact that
their sales are down significantly because of the economy. But
it doesn't help when largely female workers there are being
harassed by teenagers who are running around, screaming, throwing things,
stealing from the store, leaving trash around, threatening employees because
they're not giving them free items. You have homeless people
(06:53):
or homeless man confronting employees and customers makes them feel unsafe.
And it's not just her, it's other businesses on the
street there Madisonville, let's see the same thing. So it's
not isolated. And I bring this up because Lempika by
Jeff Ruby is closing and part of the concern there
with safety downtown. So whether it's downtown in the central
Business District or right next to the aaronof Center or
(07:13):
in Madisonville, it's part of a bigger problem here and
that is crime that is helping destroy business. In the
food truck thing didn't help relative to Madisonville. I'm sure
you're aware of this, and if you're on only informed
you that's not a good look for the city.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
You know, this is Liza the Chief Sakries is a
neighbors So when I saw her do her initial post
on Facebook, I reached out immediately and we had CPD
in contact with her. And you know, I think with
the Sunday night, by Monday morning, they're reaching out and
you know, I think ultimately she posted last night or yesterday,
I think that she's been working with a mentor and
(07:50):
the decision she's making is frankly, to simplify her business.
So they need to grow, so they're going to focus
on their one storefront and Anderson. You know, it is,
to your point, is a tough economic clignment right now
for small businesses, So expanding having to deal with two
storefronts is obviously going to be a bigger lift than one.
So the post she put most recently on Facebook was
(08:11):
all around kind of focusing their efforts in that one
store in Anderson, really kind of simplifying their operations. So
I hope the best privilege. Like I said, she's a friend,
she's a neighbor. I love the Chiefe Cakery. My parents
live in Anderson, so I'll still be able to enjoy
her products when i go down to visit them, So
you know, I'm hoping the best for her. And you know, ultimately,
(08:31):
you know, Cincinnati, we are tackling, you know, all public
safety across the board head on. And we've actually in Madisonville,
our crime stats have looked really good for the year,
and I'm actually very proud of kind of what our
neighborhood has done over the past decades plus where we
are a safe neighborhood where people are out and about,
And really what I'm excited for in our business district
(08:53):
is actually more businesses in the vacant storefronts, because that's
really what's going to activate the Madisonvilleusiness District is getting
more people into that space, more businesses, more vitality. And
that's what I want in every neighborhood, right, Like when
I picture kind of what a city is, right, you
want to stay kind of people bustling around, going into
storefronts and all of that. So that is my goal
(09:14):
for here at Madisonville, but across the entire city.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I think part of the problem too, talking too CPD
officers there and you may know this as well, in particular,
one homeless person individual is causing a lot of the
problems as well in cops quite honestly because of the
Irish rawleys, because of the homeless coalitions and the like.
If they start running those people off, individuals like that off,
then you bear their wrath. And the administration seems to
(09:36):
lean on the side of you know, the homeless and
the indigen as opposed to business owners. That I think
that's also part of the problem. Is that starting to change.
Are we starting to have more balance or is that
just simply incorrect from police officers.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Well, let me just talk about so we have a
gentleman in our neighborhood and he struggles with mental health.
He's a known person in our neighborhood and frankly, many
of the neighbors, residents, store owners here take care of him.
He has frequent in other places like mad MoMA and
they'll get coffee, you know, keep them warm. He'll often
go into our public library that's right there. They are
(10:08):
the staff, They're familiar with him. He is a part
of our community, and frankly, having mental issues is not
a crime, right Like I am not here to criminalize
people who are struggling. We need to make sure we're
connecting them with the care and services they need. So again,
when I contact the CPD in the city administration about
this whole chiefcake free thing, I made sure that we
(10:29):
understood that this gentleman it was put in touch with
the people he needed to to make sure that he
was on his care plan and getting what he needs.
Because again, at the end of the day, we want
to make sure everyone is safe in our community and
those who are struggling with mental illnesses, so we got
to get them into the care that they need so
everyone's face and feels comfortable.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I'm fine with what you said was getting someone in
need care. I mean, we just saw what happened with
Rob Bryner and his wife was just terrific. Mental health
looks like a significant mental health crisis. There are issues
for sure with I don't know the full story yet,
but uh, at some point we will uh in getting
the people. You know, and this is a whole separate
topic about mental health, which is a big deal for me.
And you know, I focus some some of the portion
(11:12):
of the show on that weekly because it is a
problem in America.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
But you know that that attitude is great, but at
the same time, you have to look at it and go, well,
if they're harming and they're threatening people, they don't feel
safe and workers are quitting. To me, that crosses the
line and there's got to be more strict intervention on that.
But it doesn't mean you're cruel because you're segregating someone
or punishment or whatever it might be. I think you
also can you know, have two two kid glove a
(11:37):
feel where I mean, it's not entirely the reason why
the cheese cakeory is closing, but make no mistake about it,
but it's a it's a part of the reason you
can't keep employees because they're afraid of this one individual.
We can't have that.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I agree, And you know, in this situation, I don't
know all the reasons. You know, it's made her decision.
Sounds like she's working with a mentor. Now. Like what
I can say is there are other businesses and organizations
in Madisonville that are familiar with this gentleman and have
not had the same issues and he and frankly, I'll
be honest. I the next day received many calls from
(12:12):
Madisonville community leaders, community council, the business chamber, the development corporation,
many of them who were worried about this gentleman safety
himself because posts online were so threatening towards this man
that people were going to hunt him down, that people
were worried about his safety. So you know, again, we
don't want to create any hype of environment where anyone put.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yeah, she is a council member, Anna, I'll be on
the show. We have a new food truck law in Cincinnati.
They have eased back on the restrictions closing stuff down
eleven o'clock and where you can congregate, and like, is
that also part of the issue too, is where the
food truck set up because it seems to me the
whole purpose of the food truck is putting the parking
the truck where people are. We talked about different zones
and areas, but uh, you know, I think, you know,
(12:56):
within reason, it should be up to the person who
owns the truck or drive truct determine where the crowd
is to feed them.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yeah, and right now, the ordinance that council pass right
before I got on opened up those parking to kind
of anywhere there's a parking space food trucks can go.
They still congregate in places where you would sink right
ear bars in your activities, right, you don't want to
be off, you know, far away from everything. But I
do think it's worth a conversation with the administration because
(13:24):
if one of the questions is how do we make
the areas around food truck safer, well, do we need
to consolidate and come back to food truck zone that
are in those you know, fun area areas of the
town to make sure that we can have you know,
maybe extra patrols in that space, or that we're actually
providing additional safety with a well lisp spot. So I
think there's probably a middle ground here right somewhere between,
(13:47):
go wherever you want, and you can only be in
this one spot that somehow gives us a balance into Hey,
we want you to be close to where all the
fun things are happening, but we also want to have
an idea of where you're going to be. That way,
we can make sure that you're in a spot that
has you know, good lighting cameras. Maybe we have an
extra officer patrol nearby just in case. So I'm hoping
(14:08):
the conversations with the city administration, the food Truck Association
can talk through all this because I think that is
what will hopefully get us to the best outcome at
the end.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Well, ultimately, once you right size the police staff right
where one hundred and fifty officers short, now we're working.
We're behind the eight ball, working to try and get
more on the street. But that's part of the problems.
You don't have patrols out there to saturate areas where
people congregate, and so you just respond and you chase
calls as opposed to having a visible presence. Every time
I'm downtown, I do see more mark units, whether it's
CPD or sheriff's vehicles that are just simply parked there,
(14:39):
and that's a deterrent I would think for a lot
of people because they think, you know, obviously an officer
is close by, and so adding more patrols and officers
is going to help remedy the situation and everyone can
have fun again in our city and that's what it
should be about. And I'll be a council member. Thanks
so much for joining the show this morning. Great to
talk to you. And happy holidays.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, thanks so much, Happy holidays, Take care.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
All the best. I got to get a news update
in in just minutes on the Big one seven hundred
WLW when we return here on the Scott Slan Show.
Just made me think of something, how this is related
to what happens Sunday at pay Corpse Stadium. Wait, what
what do food trucks have to do with pay Corpse Stadium?
I'll tell you coming up after news on seven hundred
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