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December 19, 2025 16 mins
Scott talks about the advances in mobility technology with Dave Bockrath.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Don't want to be an American idiot. All right, winding
it down for twenty twenty five here on this Friday morning.
I'm back for a couple of days next week. And
maybe you're not so enjoy if maybe this was the
last time you get to listen to the show for
the week, a couple of weeks. Anyway, it's that time
of the year. It's that time of the year. There's
something that I've been involved with now for a few weeks.
I think it's I love tech. I love fascinating things.

(00:22):
I love things that change people's lives for the better.
Because God knows we need more of those stories and
not fewer. And I love to highlight those kinds of things.
And so you may he may have heard me talking
about the tech r m D one for those who
have a mobility disability. So if you're in a wheelchair,
maybe you have trouble standing or walking, you know, typically
one is you look at it and go, my God,
the rest of my life I'm being a wheelchair or

(00:44):
I need a wheelchair to get around or move from
point A to point B. For a lot of people,
the older we are, the longer we live. That's true,
but it's also true for people who suffer spinal injuries
and the like. Veterans come to mind, and for a
long time it's been you know, you get in a chair.
You see people parking at a grocery store and whoever,
in a handicapped spot and they have the van or
a vehicle and they've got to get the card off

(01:06):
the back and then get in it. And everything of
course is you know, not at eye level, and you
go to a grocery store on one of those scooters
and it's tough to get stuff off the top shelf.
This thing is going to change so many lives. And
that's why I'm so happy to speak for my buddy,
Dave Bakrath for at Rebound Mobility dot com. Dave, welcome
and study this morning. How are you hey, Thanks Scott,
and Merry Christmas to you. I appreciate you having met. Yes,

(01:27):
I wanted to because I wanted to highlight this a
little more simply because it's such a game changer. This
is such an incredible development, I think for people with disabilities,
our veterans come to mind, but anyone for that man,
as we get older, you know, it's tough for my
my father in law has difficulty getting up and getting
down and this could absolutely change so many lives. Describe,
Describe how it works, what the device.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Is, Yeah, exactly, it's just so. I've been a medical
devices mobility devices for thirty years and this is the
most revolutionary, game changing in reward ding product that I've
ever represented because it literally changes people's lives. And I
see it firsthand in their in their eyes and their

(02:10):
family members tears when they're able to stand up the
way it works, and and and also no nobody knows
about this device. It really was launched in effect this year.
It's been on the market before that, but very very quietly.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
So.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
It is a it is not a power chair. It
actually so it's a robotic mobility device that you do
not need your legs strength at all, any muscles or
even legs at all.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
I have a w MPT in a single mputee getting
one and I listen them up to eye level like
you see up.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, you sit in uh in the seat which is
like a sling and it's almost.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Like a window washers rig. It's a it's a well
strong added very uh plus.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Very much a sortative right swing and it has a
very powerful hydraulic lift. So this seat, these two pins
drop in it, and then you're able to lift yourself
up in be and be supportive uh in the seat itself.
And then you get all the way up to eye
level or whatever level you're comfortable at, and if you

(03:23):
want to bear weight, you can bear weight to help
with your bone density, and you're able to be at
eye level again. And I've seen people stand for the
first time in decades and and it's amazing. There's there's
a lot of misnomers about it that people just think, like, well,
but but I have I have fall of risk issues.
You can't fall in this. You're you're up two fifty pounds,

(03:47):
it's solid you. I've tried to tip it over myself
and you can't. So people that that's one thing that
people don't know about. They also don't know that it
can be covered by insurance. It's on track with Blue Cross,
Blue Shield, and we can get it covered with most providers.
And it's kind of a critical time this year because
we have eleven days left if deductibles are met for

(04:10):
the pripe for the private insurances. But it's an amazing
device that lets you move about your home, reach work
around in your kitchen. And the physiological benefits are you know,
truly the reason if people are sitting, you know that
you're going to have your circulation regulated, improved bowel and

(04:34):
bladder function and all those benefits. But the biggest one
is the mental health, the psychological part of being able
to be upright again and look and have people eye
to eye conversations.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, it's the thing. It's good. So this this pad
slips under you and it's really easy to get in
a nod of So you're sitting, Let's say you're in
a chair. You can't move, you use your legs, So
the pad you slide it under your butt sort of
and the and it's soft, and then you press the
button and it actually picks you up from your bottom
and stands you up. And then the front of your
shins would stand against these pads on the device. So
it looks like a smaller, a narrower version of one

(05:09):
of the carts you'd get a grocery store, bat, rapid card,
imgo car to whatever those are. Only this thing lifts
you up and stands and then if you need to
sit back down, you press a button and it sits
you down, you take the pad off, and which means
you can you know, because it's narrow, and that's a problem.
Some of the wider chairs are difficult to get in an
odd but you can actually use the bathroom yourself if
you're in a chair or you know, I said mentioned
go to the grocery store and actually stand up at

(05:30):
eye level and pick things off the shelf yourself, Like
it's so incredible.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
The independence for bathroom functions to me is just it's
huge because it's the narrowest profile you can get, like
nineteen inches wide and you and it spins around sixty
So even in a small bathroom, you're able to manage
and drop yourself down and then move that seat and

(05:57):
then get yourself back up independently versus having a caregiver
family member help.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah, because in the past, you know, you'd have to
the restrooms and narrow doors, right and an Ada compliances
thirty six inches. Well, you know there's thirty inch doors
out there. This thing fits though easily. You can get
in a stall and take care of yourself, right, give
you good, And that's that's the mental health advantage. You
don't need to depend on someone else. Especially for veterans
that are used to, you know, doing things themselves and
being on their own and being independent.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Right, It's yeah, you can be and you can do
that independently, and it is covered by the VA, and
the veterans won't know don't know that, the veteran providers
don't know that. So it's incumbent upon the person finding
this out. And that's where, you know, I walk them
through all the processes. And that's the biggest thing, is like,

(06:43):
don't try to figure it out yourself. You've got to
use me to get you through the proper processes, whether
it's through the VA, d O D it's covered you know,
trike Care, Triy Care for Life and and also just
individuals with their own insurance and and even seniors. I've

(07:04):
had an eighty two year old veteran and he he
got in it and learned it, no problem, was driving
around in it, and he's like, I want this because
I can't take outside walks with my family and I
want to keep you know, I have to stay back,
and so I want to be able to go on
a bike path or walking and walking does.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
That work with taking that outside because markin most of
those chairs you know you look at it, go, well,
that's for pavement only. You can't go into grass or
I mean a beach or something like that.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Right, And that's that's where the outdoor kit comes in.
So we have an outdoor kit which is like big
knobby tires, and it switches out from the indoor kit
fairly easily. You can do it. Even the person in
the chair can do it within five minutes.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
And you have these extra large tires and an extra
large tail that you just just with a drop ten
you take that in and out and boom. You can
go on you know gravel, your grass, a b you know,
get to a like a you know c S a
key where it's hard packed beach and you can get
to that and be able to and you can travel

(08:08):
with this because it's it's a dry cell battery. So
it goes on planes just like your regular mobility equipment.
No extra charge for luggage or anything. They just the
cart stores in the cargo hold and you can take
it down to CS the key and and wheel around
on the beach with your family with it.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
That's wild, that's it. I mean, I imagine that in
the first time in years, people are in a wheelchair
and all of a sudden, like you know, I'm a
beach person, I'm a surf and you can actually go
and dip your your your hands, your legs into the water.
It's that's incredible. You couldn't do that before. Dave Barcreth
is here. It's Rebound Mobility dot Com. I've been talking
about this one of our partners here on the Scott
Sloan Show about how and I often do this because

(08:47):
I think there's such a special innovative thing. It's going
to change so many lives. I think it's going to
be one of those you have a sense and not
just because you're in a day that it's it's gonna
be one of the things that in years people go wow.
You know remember wheelchairs and the way you kind of
like iron lungs back in the day with Polly. You know,
we don't have those machines anymore. Now you have these
devices where you can stand literally stand up and be

(09:07):
mobile like you did when your your legs your appendages worked.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, I see where we're gonna be. You could be
seeing these around quite often right now. You know, you
don't see them out where Pty New is brand new
and again, nobody knows about it. We do have a
veterans site for our veterans dot org for a veterans
dot org if the veterans, but they can also use
the Rebound Mobility dot com site and that that allows

(09:34):
you to see information and then and my contact information
is on there nine three seven seven seven six, seventy
eight oh weill seventy eight oh one for a direct
contact and that's you know, twenty four to seven. You
can text or call that number for more information.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
And how long does it take to get one of
these units if you ordered one?

Speaker 2 (09:56):
It takes if if you're ordering and going through the
insurance process and even all the veterans processes can take
thirty to sixty days. But some people who can do
a self pay, and they can, they can pay for
it and then work through their insurance and get that
money back to their insurance so they don't have to wait,
so they can have it within two weeks if they're

(10:18):
going to just they want to put it on an amex,
get their points whatever right and then then they can
have the receipt and then they work through and help us.
So we have an insurance team they will help us
battle to get that insurance coverage, which most of the
time they do. It's a pretty high rate of success,
especially when the patient gets involved and so they get

(10:40):
that check reimburse and then and a lot of people
do that, they put it on a credit card. The company,
Mattiam Mobility also has a couple of financing options.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Is there a are they made where they made? Where manufacturing?
Salt Lake City? Oh wow, so they made the US.
They're made in the US, so you can get them
here in a couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah. Yeah, they're they're all and they're customized, so we
you are not there. They're custom built for that person's size.
So there's measurements that I take or make sure they're
taken by a provider like a pt O T and
so it fits and it hits you in the right

(11:18):
part of your body anywhere, right anywhere from a four
foot seven person. I have eleven year old muscular disc
free kid getting his delivering it to him on Christmas Eve,
So it's going to be a Christmas present. Yeah, eleven
year old mustard disc fee. He can't wait and he
tools around on it like like he's had it forever.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
When I did, oh, I demoed one and it's like,
you know, within a couple of minutes you kind of
get used to the controls and it's it's really cool
and it's really like the battery in this thing last
how long a full day? Nine miles that's a lot.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, so you can go you can go cruise around
on a full charge, you know, on a bike path
or outside or on a beach for quite a while.
So the charge and it only takes about two three
hours to get up to a full charge. Yeah, it's

(12:14):
it is again just so rewarding to see. I haven't
I haven't actually done an in person demo with someone
who didn't get the unit or didn't start to process
the unit. And so that's something that I offer too,
because you're looking if it's something you could just buy online,

(12:39):
we'd put on Amazon and order.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Because it has to be custom and customers insurance and
everything else too. Yeah. I mean, if if you know
someone neighbor, friend, family or co or whoever, it is
a good benefit from this that so I wanted to
have you on get the word out because I really
think this is this, this is one of those devices.
Once in a while something comes along that absolutely changes
people's lives for the better, and in the age were
living longer. Maybe not better, but longer. It's incumbent to

(13:04):
get the word out. I think for stuff like this,
going hey, this is going to improve your mental health,
which is a huge component. But physically you mentioned bone density, bowels,
all that stuff. I mean, imagine you know, you have
your house. Let's say you're in a chair, and everything's
built for people who stand up. You know, cupboards, cabinets, refrigerators,
and you live with so much in life because you're seated,
and now you don't have to change all that. You
can actually stand up in your house and get things

(13:25):
off the top shelf like you used to, and the
machine does it all and you're able to navigate your
hallways and stay in your own house. I mean in
the past people have to move to assisted living or
something like that. This keeps people in their houses longer,
whether it's veterans or people with disabilities, but also seniors too.
I think you're going to see more people who their
legs work. But you know, I mean the older we get,
the longer we live, it's going to be harder to
get around.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
This is for them, right, and the seniors now are
just more active seniors, you know, wanting to be outside,
wanting to be independent, and and this you know, will
allow them to you know, stay that way and you know,
take the outside, get to the fresh air, take a walk.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
You know.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
I you can avoid the home rebuilds on that. But
I even have someone getting one that had the home
rebuild done, but he's getting it for the outdoors part
of it the package. So he saw that there's enough
benefit in that. So it's gonna be you know, there's
gonna be something for everybody that maybe if they've they've

(14:24):
lost mobility, maybe they can walk a little bit, but
they just can't go very far.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
It's going to help them with that.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
And we're also partnered with uh Tie Bradshaw with the
knuxts All Foundation where we're doing for people who here
and refer a patient. It doesn't have to be for yourself,
but a referral a two thousand dollars donation to the
knuxts All Foundation because they're dealing with disabilities and they're

(14:50):
trying to build that indoor center, right so.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Help up the community with that. That's amazing. So yeah,
portion proceeds go there as well, and I know that
you know, we've we hit the veterans thing too, and
I want to say that, you know, as we get
the word out about this, this game changer. Steve Bolso
is my buddy. He comes in once a month from
Claremont County for veterans services, and I was talking to him.
I'm like, hey, I showed, I showed him a video
and you know, showed and he was he was the
top excited to spread the word to veterans. He because

(15:16):
I know a handful of people already that would jump
at the chance for something like this. So you know,
you get the word out there, especially to our veterans
and the VA, and you know the v AL take
careful pay for it. Uh that that's gonna be great
for veterans and and anyone else listening for that matter.
So again, the website is rebound Mobility dot com. Rebound
mobility dot com. Dave Bachrath and uh Matt mcool is
are a Cincinnati Repisent's student. This morning. Uh doesn't speak

(15:39):
at all. He's uh, which is really unusual for somebody
in sales, but nonetheless, uh uh it really is called.
I'm so happy to be working with your partner with
just to spread the word about this and it really
is going to change somebody live share in the tri
State and the rest of the country, and this could
be one of those products that are you know, featured
in the future. Is a turning point when it comes

(15:59):
to helping people bowl with disabilities navigate life. They appreciate it.
Thanks again for coming in.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Hey, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
All right, all those against Rebound Mobility dot Com is
the website if you want to check that out. And
maybe not someone in your family, but we all know
someone who may have a friend, a family member, a neighbor,
the son of a coworker, the daughter of a someone
who went to school with and go, man, I wonder
if they know about this and maybe share that link
with them at rebound Mobility dot Com. Anyway, I got
to get a time out in News on the Way
In just minutes, Austin jumps in. We talk about the

(16:26):
Bengals in Miami, a fruitless effort. What the hell are
they playing for? Well, it's sunny weather, so at least
you get to go and enjoy that as well. Who
should have remain on the Bengals for twenty twenty six
is the question. Maybe they'll be somewhat answered in Sunday's game.
Talk to Austin about that and more coming up next
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