12-5-25 Scott Sloan Show

Scott previews Sunday's Bengals game with Dan Hoard and Austin Elmore. Also Ohio Rep Michele Grim explains what the Assembly is trying to do help citizens with medical debt. Also Steve Balczo from the Clermont County Veterans Services gives an update on the improvements to their services.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Do you want to be an American?

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Friday morning? It slowly here on seven hundred w WELW
Joe Jamar t All in action for the first time,
and it feels like forever of this Sunday at Buffalo
and Orchard Park against the Bills, Ravens dominated the Bengals.
I'm sorry, the Bengals dominated the Ravens. I should say
thirty two to fourteen Thanksgiving Night, which seems like a
while ago. And then Pittsburgh crushed by the Bills twenty

(00:24):
six to seven on Sunday, and the Bengals thrust it
into the conversation of possibly winning the division. And I mean,
the odds makers don't give it much of a shot,
but man, it's not gonna take much. Dan Horne is here,
of course, voice of the Bengals on seven hundred WLW Daniel,
good morning. How are you bother?

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Sony? I'm good. It's not going to take much. That
might be a slight No, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
It's the division.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
No one wants. Cleveland would love it, trust me.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Well, Cleveland's mathematically eliminated from twenty twenty six postseason play.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
Dan.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
At this point, before we get to that, the shootouts
tonight the last time you see one at Sinta Center.
What were you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:09):
I was broadcasting the game. That was twenty four years ago.
Oh yeah, oh yeah, I go back a long way.
I know now that you mention it. That was early
in my really early Bearcats ten year Yeah, that might
have been second or third year, but in any case,
remember it. Well, Steve Logan had twenty two points. David
West got injured in that game. That obviously helped the Bearcats. Yep,

(01:31):
Cincinnati won by twenty. It was the first time they
ever played at the Sintas Center. They haven't won again since,
so they're desperate to try to end that streak tonight.
We'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
I think I had just started at the station when
you know, learn about the crossown shoot all that stuff
goes that far. That's a long long time not to
win in one picture, good Billy, when you play every.

Speaker 5 (01:48):
Year, I had nafro back then, I had so much hair.
It was a long long time ago, So.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Long ago Dan had hair. Yeah, and that he hair
left has been great at this point. So all right,
Well what changes it hasn't since two thousand and one.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Well, everything has changed. I mean it's amazing that we
get to this incredible rivalry, the best intracity rivalry in
college basketball, and there's one guy on both teams combined
that's played in it before Dade Thomas. Yeah, he's the
only Cincinnati player. Xavier doesn't have any.

Speaker 5 (02:25):
So that is one aspect of the current state of
college athletics that sucks. You know, we used to love
the fact that guys would play in this rivalry three times,
four times, and you'd have those memories of how they
did against UC or how they did against Xavier.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Those days are pretty much gone. I mean, there will occasionally.

Speaker 5 (02:44):
Be a player probably that sticks with a team for
three or four years, but it's.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Going to be a rarity going forward.

Speaker 6 (02:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, And I bring that up because, yeah, the players changed,
the coaches have changed, all the thesiers yet and the
one true thing is that you see cannot win at
Cinta Center for four years. It's like, yeah, participants have changed,
and yet it's still I don't know what it is,
a curse, call it what it is, but is this
the year that you see overcomes Dan.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Two weeks ago, I would have said yes.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
Now, I let's say maybe Cincinnati looked like the much
better team. In the first few weeks of the season,
Xavier was kind of sputtering. The Bearcats are rolling now.
Cincinnati has not played particularly well in it's last three
or four games, and Xavier is coming on. Xavier's playing
really well. They made a slight tweak in the lineup,

(03:32):
and they've been really emphasizing their three point shooting from
all five positions or at least four, depending on who's
on the floor, and they are among the national leaders
and three pointers made.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
I will say this about U. See when they've had
Boba Miller available for all forty minutes of a game,
they haven't lost. They lost to Louisville when he missed
the last ten and a half minutes. Now, they were
losing by five points at the time, so they might
have lost that game anyway. And then they lost the
Eastern Michigan when Baba did not play. He's their best player.

(04:04):
He makes an unbelievable difference when he's on the floor.
He's good to go tonight, So we'll see if that's
going to be a big factor in a bear Cat win.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
All Right, it is a huge basketball game here in
the city of Cincinnati, and it was certainly one of
the most, if not unique in town matchups. It's been
going for such a and it's always a pretty good game,
almost always the crosstown shot out tonight. Anyway, let's seguay
to Sunday in Orchard Park, Bills and Bengal's going to
be able to snow thirty one degrees and some snow showers,

(04:33):
just how we like it. Joe Burrow is outstanding in
the cold weather, by the way, if you look at
any past history. But we'll start with this. The Bills
just ran for almost two hundred fifty yards against Pittsburgh,
most since twenty twenty three, the most there in Pittsburgh
since nineteen seventy five. Bengals thirty first against the run.
How do they slow James Cook in the rushing attack?

(04:54):
And if they can, how big a key is that
to victory?

Speaker 5 (04:57):
Number one key. That's the biggest key to the game.
And the keyword in the sentence you just used, Sloany
was slow, not stop. They're not going to suddenly hold
Buffalo to forty eight rushing yards, but they can't give
up one hundred and fifty plus. And that's what the
Bills average, and that's what the Bengals defense average is allowing.
I think Buffalo averages one hundred and fifty eight rushing

(05:20):
yards a game, number one in the NFL, and the
Bengals give up one fifty three, So that one fifty
ish number isn't going to work for Cincinnati. If they
allow that, I think the Bengals are dead. Even though
they have Joe Burrow back. They can't allow Buffalo to
control the clock, go up and down the field on
the ground, make it easier for Josh Allen to throw
when he decides to. I think that's the number one

(05:42):
key to the game.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
And as for how the Bengals slow James Cooking that
rushing attack, well, they've been doing it for the last
few weeks. So the Bengals, as I.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
Said, they've given up one hundred and fifty three rushing
yards a game, but that includes like two fifty against
the Jets and two fifty against Chicago. Over the last
three weeksnumbers come way down. So the Bengals defense is
playing better and we'll see if they can make it
four games in a row.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, and of course the twist is not just James
cook it's also well Josh Allen, you know, four hundred
nine rushing yards seventy six for your rushing tds just
broke Cam Newton's all time record the NFL. That is
a twist the Bengals are not used to seeing.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
It's a twist that nobody's used to seeing, especially inside
the ten. You know, the seventy six rushing touchdowns for
Josh Allen, I don't know the number, but I'm guessing
that at least sixty five of them have come inside
the ten yard line. When they get close to the
goal line, that's the great equalizer because normally, if a

(06:39):
quarterback hands off to the running back inside the five,
the quarterback is just standing there watching. So basically, you've
got nine guys to block eleven. When Josh Allen keeps,
the running back is now available to block, you've got
an extra guy to block.

Speaker 5 (06:55):
Josh Allen is obviously a horse. It's really difficult to
stop when you get close to the goal line. And
the Bills also do a great job of you know,
if Josh Allen is say two or three yards away
and still on his feet, couple of those gigantic offensive
linemen we'll move behind and start pushing, and then it's
almost impossible to bring him down.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
But the problem with Josh Allen and we'll get the interceptions,
like his facts, he he just does not have the receivers.
He doesn't have the tools out there to throw the ball.
I think that's why you're seeing maybe the interception rate
creep up and trying to do other things and forcing plays.
Could be that could be good for the Bengal seconder.

Speaker 5 (07:29):
No doubt, he's got six interceptions in the last four games.
He's got ten for the season. I believe he's tied
for second in the NFL for most interceptions, maybe third.
In any case, You're right, they don't have great where
he's receiving weapons, and one of their best has been
out Dalton and Kaid. He's missed the last three games.
Former first gund Draft pick tight end. When he's been

(07:52):
on the field this year, Alan hasn't thrown any interceptions.
The passing game is much much better when he's on
the field for Buffalo. He's been limited at practice this week.
I don't know if he's expected to come back or not. Obviously,
from the Bengals perspective, fingers crossed and he misses at
least one more.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Okay, good. And before we segue and flip the script
to the other side of the ball, Trey hendrickson what
is the story?

Speaker 3 (08:17):
He's hurts and other than that, I'm not sure. I
haven't seen him or talked to him in the last
few weeks. He's still rehabbing. It's not like he's left Cincinnati.
But it just feels like Trey is going to wait
until he's one hundred to come back. But again, I
have not talked to him about that, or talked to

(08:40):
him period for several weeks.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
You've heard the speculation. You know, he's just gonna say
and he's done. And but I mean, you know, people
make stuff up in the vacuum. When the story stamp
coming off your quiet and doing your work and trying
to rehab, the story takes on a life of its own.
Of course, hopefully he's back sooner rather than later. But
I would say, you know, there's some parallels been the
Bills Bengals, and players and positions are missing. Bengals are

(09:03):
without Trey Hendricks and the Bills are gonna look like
they're gonna be without Joey Bosa.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yeah, big loss.

Speaker 5 (09:09):
He leads the Bills in sacks even though he plays
a somewhat specialist role coming in to rush the quarterback.
We know how great he is from his career, so
that's a significant loss. At Oliver has been out basically,
you know, almost all of the year for Buffalo, their
best interior defensive linemen. So I don't think that's the
strength for the Bills. They're giving up a bunch of

(09:30):
rushing yards. We talked about how that they are running
the ball, well, they're bad at stopping the run. They're
next to last in the NFL in yards per carry allowed.
So Chase Brown has been great for the last six games,
and we'll see if the Bengals can have some balance
and what's likely to be a really cold day in Buffalo.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, it could just be a ball control game. Dan,
We're we're rushing, We're seeing a thousand yards rushing. It's
gonna do one of those days. Joe Burrow though, fire
in the cold, and it feels like it's been the
first time in forever since Burrow, Chase and Higgins have
all been healthy and playing together.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Yeah, we too would have been the last time. And
we're assuming that t is back. I think that will
be the case. He's been trending. Yeah, he's been trending
in the right direction. He comes back from the concussion
he suffered two games ago. I think we'll get the
official word on whether he's back or not today, and
I do expect him to play. So yeah, it'd be
great for the Bengals passing offense to be back at

(10:25):
full strength. I'm finding some wood here to knock on.

Speaker 5 (10:28):
But with five games left in the season, the Bengals
are in relatively good shape in terms of injuries. Trey
would be the most notable guy that they don't have,
but particularly in the offensive end, they're in really good shape.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yeah. Yeah, and the Bills have been. Their defense has
been pretty lead against the pass all season long, despite
all the injuries of the defense they've had. But this
is the arguably one of the best tests they're going
to have the season with all three players presumably be
back back on the field. In addition to the Bills
claimed veteran cornerback Darius Slayan went saying, Bengals fans are
going nuts because you remember him in what week seven?

(11:03):
It's the Steelers that Jamar lit him and the defense.
Steeler defense up for a career day for him. Sixteen touches,
one hundred and sixty one yards and a touchdown. But
the Bills got screwed here because Darius Lay said, dah,
you know what, I'm not going to report. I'm thinking
about maybe retiring and what I would do in the future.
Bills released JaMarcus Ingram, who's been pretty strong for them
off the practice squad this season. Houston picked him up.

(11:25):
So not only out Darius Lay, you're out JaMarcus Ingram
as well. Another opportunity for Joe Burrow in company.

Speaker 5 (11:30):
A little surprised that Buffalo would reach out and try
to get Darius Slay. He hasn't been very good this year,
he's old. It was kind of a questionable signing at
the beginning of the year by Pittsburgh. The thought was
they wanted to pick him up to kind of be
a veteran mentor to Joey Porter, who's been penalty prone
and you know, kind of prone to emotional loudbursts. When

(11:51):
he avoids that kind of stuff. He's a really good
player that didn't work out very well for Pittsburgh. So
it does kind of speak to Buffalo's I don't know,
maybe slight desperations to build up the depth at that position.
Christian Benford's been awesome he had at corner. He'll be
shadowing Jamar Chase.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
How's that match up gonna look?

Speaker 3 (12:11):
I'll say this, You know, beware any NFL team that
thinks that they've got a cornerback that's good enough to
handle Jamar Chase one on one is going to be
proven wrong. Ye, nobody does that.

Speaker 5 (12:22):
Jamar is you know, he's not only the best wide
receiver in the NFL right now, he's one of the
best ever. I think it's safe to say that five
years into his career. So Benford will follow Jamar Chase,
but he'll still probably get help. Having said that, Jamar
will put up numbers because he always does.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, Jamar will do what he does right exactly. It'll
be certainly a fascinating match with the other guy is
Bill's rookie corner Maxwell Harriston. It's about six catches on
thirteen targets since coming back there for injury in Week eight,
and he's a holdout, and you think he is he
the weak link there.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
He's a rookie, he's a little bit underside, He's got
tremendous speed. He's a Kentucky guy he played at UK
first round draft pick. I think he's going to be
a good player, but I think is inexperience shows.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, yeah, also Dan, I mean, we've got two teams
literally fighting here, Buffalo eight and for fighting for a
wild card. Doesn't look like they're going to win the
division as have done the last five seasons the way
that Drake May and New England's playing, And everyone hates
to hear that because no one likes New England. Cincinnati
fighting for its playoff life right now, and it's it's
such a great story because the as we mentioned, the
North is so up for grabs right now. Pittsburgh and

(13:30):
the Ravens are flailing right now. The Bengals are getting
one game, is certainly not a shriek, but certainly looking
a lot better. And some experts are saying, you know what,
I think they might run the table or close to
it and wind up getting that playoff spot. We'll see,
of course, and it starts on Sunday. But this matchup
with two teams fighting for something is are the Bills
experience and talent level when you when you combine it

(13:54):
all together, overwhelming or what we I mean? I think
the lines what like five five six, so five and
a half. I mean, it's not as close as you
would think it would be. But Matt, I just I'll
be honest with Isabell's fan and Bengals fan, the Bengals
feel like the better team right now.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
Well, I'm not sure that I agree with that.

Speaker 5 (14:13):
You know, it's interesting with Buffalo, as you mentioned, they're
eight and four, and that seems disappointing just because expectations
were so high.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
They dominated their division. They started four and zero. It
felt like they were the best team in the AFC
certainly at that point and maybe in the NFL. And
they've been a five hundred team since. And they've got
kind of some head scratching losses. They lost to the Falcons,
they lost to the Dolphins, they gave up eight facts
two weeks ago against Houston. It's still a really good team.

Speaker 5 (14:42):
Josh Allen is obviously one of the best quarterbacks in
the NFL. James Cook is second in the NFL and
rushing and had seven one hundred yard games. And they're
playing at home where they won sixteen out of their
last seventeen. So I'm not willing to say that Cincinnati
is the better team. But I will say this, this
is what they do, right, I mean, they get to

(15:02):
December and they go on a run. Dak Taylor has
been criticized and fairly criticized for the team's slow starts.
I'm not sure he's ever gotten the same amount of
credit for their strong finishes. So let's go back to
twenty twenty one, the Super Bowl year. They were a
game over five hundred. They were seven and six, and

(15:22):
then they won the next six games that they were
trying to win. So I'm going to toss out the
regular season finale when they rested their starters, but they
finished the regular season winning their last three. Then they
won three straight in the playoffs to get the Super Bowl.
The next year they were four and four. They won
ten in a row before they lost the AFC Championship
game to Kansas City. Last year, of course, they won

(15:44):
their last five to at least stay in the playoff
hunt until the last day of the regular season. So
that's three out of the last four years. Six game
winning streak, ten game winning streak, five game winning streak.
It's what they do, so I am not ruling out
the possibility of winning five more in a row to
stay in the hunt and then hope that Baltimore loses
too and Pittsburgh loses too, and if that happens, they're in.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's simple math right well, and
also the I mean, let's face it that Joe Burr
the Beggels have had the Bill's number for a while.
It's just one of those teams they can't get past.
But we'll see what happens Sunday. And I think it's
gonna be a great game either way. And Dan and
Lapp will have a call from Snowy Orchard Park on Sunday.
I'll see you there, buddy. Have a great game and

(16:27):
safe travels. We'll talk again in about a week.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Sounds good, Clony, have fun.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Appreciate you you too, Thanks again, Voice of the Bengals
and of course Bearcats. Tonight it is the Crosstown shootout.
Dan Horde with the call courtside at Cinta Center. Can
you see do something they haven't done since Dan had
an afro, and that is win win at X. We'll
find out tonight on the Home of the Cats. Seven
hundred wwbman.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Who has entertainment reporting, of course through his veins which
makes him a medical.

Speaker 7 (17:03):
Offity is ABC, Will Gans from New York.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Good morning, Will Dans. How are you, sir?

Speaker 7 (17:11):
I am good. Happy Friday, too.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Happy Friday. Cannot wait for it, cannot wait for it.
A bunch of stuff going on. Let's start in theaters
where the New Knives Out movie is on a limited basis,
though it's gonna be like a general release eventually with
Daniel Craig and Glenn Close and company.

Speaker 7 (17:28):
That is exactly right. So what if I told you
that you only have to wait one week for this
thing to pop up on your Netflix?

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Because yeah, it kind of started getting into a little
bit and then fall out, but I gotta get back in.
It's a great show. And I'm wondering, well, okay, well
why is this the theaters if it's gonna be on
Netflix a week?

Speaker 3 (17:49):
I mean.

Speaker 7 (17:49):
So, the big consideration for movies like this, particularly when
you do have performances from Glenn Close that could be
up for awards nominations, Daniel Craig writing, and stuff from
Ryan Johnson is in order for something to be considered
for oscars, they have to spend a minimum amount of
time in a minimum amount of theaters. So I think

(18:11):
you know, a lot of the studios will say, all right,
we'll put this thing in five hundred theaters across the
country and you know, leave it there for a couple
of weeks, and then we'll bring it to the people
on Netflix. So that's what's going on here. But I
will say this movie Wake Up Dead Man is one
of my favorite things I've seen this year. So if
you're looking for a reason to go to the theaters

(18:31):
this weekend, I can't recommend this enough, although I would
understand if anyone wanted to wait to watch it. It'll
be on Netflix next Friday.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah, I just sit in So they're doing is just
to get an oscar. Now I'm as opposed to actually
anyone going to the theater and seeing it. Yeah, I
would say that that's that's correct. Yeah, because it's like, well,
if you don't have net fight, don't get it all right,
interesting times in which we we live, that's for sure.
Let's go to the small screen here. Peacocky has something
called all Your Fault just keeps showing up in my cue.

(19:00):
Is it worth hitting play?

Speaker 7 (19:03):
I think yes. So Sarah Nook is the lead, and
a lot of people might remember her from succession. She's
the sister and Ship and Succession, and she of course
won some Emmys for that. So she plays a mom
who uh sets her son up for a playdate with
another mom at the school and and her son, but
when she goes to pick the kid up from the

(19:23):
play date, uh, the address that she was given is
wrong and the mom's phone number that she had is disconnected,
and now her son is missing. So it's eight episodes
and she is trying to figure out who took her
son and why, and you know it's it's she's got
a husband and he has some siblings, and it starts

(19:43):
starts to feel that everyone close to her may not
be as trustworthy as she thought. So it's a little soapy,
it's a it's definitely dramatic, but you know, she's fantastic
in it, and lots of twists and turns for anyone
looking for a mystery like that. And all eight episodes
are streaming on Peacock.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Now wait, just drop your kid off at a neighbor's
house and do any background check. What the hell's going
on with this world?

Speaker 7 (20:06):
Hey, listen, it makes for an excellent TV show.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Okay, all right, I like I'm saying, and then I know,
Melissa McCarthy's back this weekend on SNL.

Speaker 7 (20:15):
Yeah, so on the other end of the spectrum if
Missing Kids is a little too heavy for you right now,
Melisa McCarthy will be hosting SNL for her sixth time.
It's her first time back since twenty seventeen. And you know,
she is just one of I think, at least in
this current era, one of the best SNL hosts. Do
you remember she played Sean Spicer for.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
A little while.

Speaker 7 (20:36):
That was hilarious. So we will have to see what
she's up to this weekend. And and you know, typically
when people have hosted five times or more, they come
back with a little bit of a gang you know,
like I So I wouldn't be surprised if maybe Tina
fe and Amy Polar show up, or Steve Martin and
Martin Short, they bring back a lot of those those
longtime you know hosts and special guests and stuff. So

(20:57):
that is, of course Saturday Night Melissa McCarthy hosting SNL.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah, she's always been great on SNL. Of course, you know,
Gangbusters came out, and Bridesmaids and and just was rolling
for a long time. But what what's the deal with
her career. I'm not saying your career is, you know,
gone down the tubes or anything like that. But she
doesn't have that pop she used to.

Speaker 7 (21:16):
Uh yeah, I mean she's I guess maybe been taking
a little bit of a break. I wouldn't be surprised
if she's writing something. She's married to, uh Ben Falcone,
who's also a writer and performer as well. So yeah,
I don't you know, I don't think there's anything negative happening.
I just think she probably you know, hasn't needed maybe

(21:37):
to work as much as she as she was.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
No, maybe maybe it's just maybe something as simple as that.
Well good for her because all of us want to
work less. Correct Yes, yes, yes, yes, I know, I'll
put you on the spot. Did you see J Kelly
or No?

Speaker 7 (21:53):
I have not seen J Kelly yet, but yeah, we
it's getting a lot of buzz.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
You know.

Speaker 7 (21:58):
Golden Globe nominations will announced on Monday morning, and I
would not be surprised if we hear J Kelly several
times throughout the morning. I mean, Hollywood loves movies about Hollywood,
and George Clooney is pretty much beloved by everybody. You know,
people just say he's so disarming, and I think he's
pretty much playing himself in this movie. You know, he's
playing an aging Hollywood movie star. And yeah, so it

(22:22):
has all the all the trappings of Oscar bait and
Golden Globes bait written all over it.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
I think, well, as a Cincinnati guy and his dad
was Cincinnati guy. You know, we all love George Clooney
here in the Tri State and you know, see that
movie come out. It was an aged movie star. But
if you haven't seen him in the last number of years,
the guy who is he's talking about pivoting Adam Sandler,
and the last couple of dramatic roles he's played has
been absolutely phenomenal.

Speaker 7 (22:48):
He is incredible. I mean, yeah, you're exactly right, Like
talk about a second act. You know, he switched from
Billy Madison and water Boy to you know, Uncut Gems
and all of these incredible films that you know, people
are always where did this come from? But you're right,
he's crushing it.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah, yeah, I enjoy the last number of movies he's
been even really really strong. So look forward to seeing
this anyway, he is a Will Gance in New York
at Will Dance two s's so there you go, knives
out in theaters. But wait a week it'll be on Netflix.
And then Peacock as Sarah Snook Melissa McCarthy on SNL
and Jay Kelly with George Clooney is on Netflix. I

(23:27):
believe Netflix. Yes, all the best, Buddy will talk next week.

Speaker 7 (23:29):
Thanks again, all right, thanks again, have a great man.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Right, I appreciate it. There you go if you're maybe
I don't know between sports and now we've got the
Crosstown shootout tonight at Sinta Center. Can the Bearcats do
what they haven't done since two thousand and one? And
that's actually when there we'll find out. We've got the
Bengals on Sunday, Sunday Sunday. Still waiting to hear what.
By the way, with speaking of U see bowl games,
and I'm not sure where they're going, but we'll see

(23:53):
what the speculation is. Not exactly you know, I fed
in the cat the last number of games for Scott Centerfield,
but nonetheless to go to a bowl maybe like the
Motor City or something like that, could be the Mayo Bowl.
That probably not the Pop Tart Bull that's almost too much,
not quite sure, And I said Bengals on Sunday at
Buffalo against the Bills. I think it's gonna be pretty
good game. Actually, maybe just like two teams running. If

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you like the running game, that may be it. Right there.
We'll find out together here All that and more this weekend.
Scott Sloan Show continues in about four minutes on seven
hundred WW Friday Morning with Sloaney here seven hundred wlw
Welcome to It's get to Austin about twelve thirty five
today here on the show. Fuck a little bit more

(24:34):
sports action. Uh do we have a deadbeat mayor? This
is the damnedest story. Uh so, if you haven't heard yet,
Mayor a f Taed pure Vall of Cincinnati had his
car repossessed. It's making news. Wait a bit, you're the
mayor and you're getting your car repode? How does that work?
What are you doing? What are you thinking? Here's what

(24:56):
I think and kind of knowing a this because you know, uh,
renting properties and stuff like that. I've seen tenants before.
Who I you know, when you have credit reports, poll
to see if they're going to actually pay rent, you know,
how well or not well they're doing. And it's funny
because he seen that before, where you have someone who's

(25:16):
making more than enough morning to afford the rental, and
yet for some reason, every single month they pay late.
They pay the thirty five dollars laid fee after grace
period of ten days. They yeah, middle of the mouth,
they gotta pay. Well, yeah, I could see you know,
your living paycheck to paycheck, maybe not paid to the

(25:37):
fifteenth or something along those lines. And some of those
as well. And this one though, was like, were you
pretty doing all right? You should have the money. There's
some people that just literally give zero. You know what,
I wonder if I have to have that guy. I
don't know what that says about him as a politician
or a mayor for that matter. And I'll let you
decide what that mean. I don't know if it means anything,

(25:58):
but I've seen that before, Like you got your car repossessed.
You know there's auto pay, right, you're not super old,
were you don't understand how that works? And you know
you're still showing up and paying in cash or writing
a check once a month or something like that. And
you know, I have other other attendants who are older
and they have a fear of anything, you know, but

(26:22):
involving technologies, they're going to get a money order to
write a check or something like that and whatever. There's
a fee for that as well. It's like it's just
easier to have it drawn out of you account once
a month. You never to forget it. But yeah, the afterthing,
it's really weird because you know, he said, well, you know,
I just I didn't know that. I thought I had
autopay on. It wasn't. Here's the thing, so, you know,
we moved over the summer and I have it set

(26:43):
up for our house from Duke, and honestly, seriously, just
what two days ago I received notice from Duke that said, hey,
the your tillers are going to get shut off in
ten days if you don't pay just f way, and
they texted me, I got an email, I got a
phone call. And it's because I thought it was on
at the payment wasn't. That's a legitimate mistake, like, oh,

(27:05):
I thought I had that set up, got it set up,
and okay, no problem whatever. So I don't know much
about the repossession game, but know enough about the law
to go I'm pretty sure they just don't show up
after sixty days and take your rig. I've never been
through that. Maybe you're in the I don't know, maybe
we had any REPO agents listening to the show tot
truck drivers. I'm curious because it seems to me that

(27:29):
you would have a couple notices initially that you're passed to.
You know, I missed your payment, you missed one payment,
two payment, whatever it might be. I don't know how
many payments you missed before they take your stuff, But
given to the first one, they give you enough notice.
There's letters, there's calls, there's emails, Hey, payment's overdue, and
then within thirty to sixty days, and that thirty sixty
to win it. Then you get the default notice where hey,

(27:51):
guess what you're in default and we may repossess your
vehicle if you don't catch up. And then in some states,
and I think, oh HOYAUA is one, it's called right
to cure, and lenders have to send you a formal
file notice, a final notice to bring the loan current
before they can repossess. So it's not like it's, hey,

(28:14):
I missed my bill. Oh I'm going to hit a
late fee. It has to go on for literally a
couple month, a few months of not paying your bill
before before they repossess your car. So that then brings
in the question of like, well, you know, I know
his wife is a I believe she's in internest, she's

(28:35):
a doctor. He makes you one hundred and what is it,
fifty to sixty grand? Whatever it is is mayor so
you know they're doing well. Now you don't know what
they're how their day to days aren't what they spend
their money on. There's a lot of people who make
a lot more money than that and live paycheck to paycheck.
There's a lot of people who make a lot less
than that and can save some money. Just depends how
now you're wired. But I look at that and go yeah.

(28:57):
Initially it's like, Okay, just thought he had autopy. He didn't.
But how many notifications do you get from the lender
before they repossess your vehicle. It has to be several
and not just oh, we emailed you got the wrong
email address. They've got you. You know, you took out a loan,
They've got your phone number, they have your address, they've
got your email, They've probably I think at some point

(29:19):
probably sent you a registered letter or something like that.
I just I don't understand why I'm getting the benefit
of doubt here is why you would ignore that, unless,
of course, maybe he did ignore it deliberately. I don't
know if we'll ever know, but it certainly is an
interesting damnedest thing, or if I mayor having his car
repossessed interesting, very very interesting. I was asked, well, we'll

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get in this in just a little bit here too.
By the way, we've been talking a lot about medical
debt and the like, and Michelle grimmleb be here momentarily.
There's a bill that's under consideration now in the state
House that will involve that and getting people relief and
actually buying these things so allow it's more subsidient. This
is interesting taking the money and a buying debt for
pennies on the dollar and paying people's and discharging people's

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medical debt in the state. And it's not just a
Democrat type of thing. Republican. I believe Genie Schmidt is
the one who is also sponsoring this. We'll talk to
about we'll talk about that coming up next, I should say.
Right after a quick news update on the Home of
the Best Bengals coverage. This as seven hundred WW. Since
don't want to Scott's long show back on seven hundred WLW.

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Fun fat. Here's a fun fact to start your busy day.
The amount of money that we spend in healthcare in
the United States has tripled since two thousand, So in
less than a quarter century, less than twenty five years,
the amount of money we spend on healthcare has tripled.
So one point four trillion to five trillion, pretty close
to triple. Right in the fall, the city of Cincinnati

(30:46):
gave money to wipe wipeout medical debt. Kind of a
controversial story, but that was done just a few months
ago as a matter of fact. So next up, though,
state wide, is Ohio's Medical Debt Fairness Act. What is that? Well? Well,
Ohio Representative Michelle Grim out of Toledo, out of the
Glass Cities here, she is a sponsor of House Bill
two fifty seven. Michelle, how are you?

Speaker 6 (31:08):
I'm great? How are you, Scott?

Speaker 2 (31:09):
I'm doing fine? All is well in the Glass City?

Speaker 6 (31:11):
I presume, yeah, all as well?

Speaker 2 (31:13):
All right? I had I think Gary Jeff Walker, one
of our guys at work here, was driving through Toledo,
was thinking to me, said I stopped and had a
Pacos honky dog. And let me tell you something, if
you're passing through child to stop at Tony Paco's and
get some chili, get a honky dog. Much different than
Cincinnati style, but pleasing none the loss. All right, So
medical debt has I think it's the still the leading

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source and has been for a while leading source on
paid bills and credit reports for a long time now.
In medical debt's like sixty percent of consumer debt on
credit reports, which is incredible. So that those that's the
rail that we're facing here. So what does House Bill
two fifty seven do? What's your proposal to do?

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Sure?

Speaker 4 (31:51):
So House still two fifty seven would do three key things.
It would prohibit hospitals collectors from reporting on credit reports,
it would band wage gurnishment, and it would cap interest
of medical debt odes to three percent, because right now

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we have a statutory eight percent interest, so that would
cap that at three percent.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Okay, so let's start with a three percent medical to
the interest that you would pay right now on any
medical bill is certainly higher than three percent, and that
keeps up with inflation, presumably tied to maybe tied to
inflation here. But typically how much of that debt are
we talkingbou how much should people just pay an interest
on medical debt?

Speaker 3 (32:38):
Now?

Speaker 4 (32:40):
So I, you know, I think that's hard to gauge,
but I would say that the average person has about
the average person PAS medical debt has about twelve hundred dollars,
and while we don't report under five hundred dollars and
credit reports right now, that's taking away about the majority

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of people who have medical debts and not giving them
a chance to repair their credit or purchase.

Speaker 6 (33:15):
A home or even get a job.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
Because credit reports are they can hinder people getting a job,
or getting an apartment or getting a mortgage. So so
that that leaves a lot of people out well.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Getting getting insurance for that. But like car insurance for example,
everybody pulls your credit.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
Report now, yeah, for sure, And so our bill would
prohibit any type of credit reporting and medical debt.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
All right, So on that one of the one of
the complaints you hear from the debt collection industry, which
I can't imagine a lot of people siding with the
debt collection industry, but it says, hey, listen, you're essentially
encouraging people to be dead beats. Basically, what they're saying
is that if you take the conscious consequence away from
people for non payment, that's going to lead the higher
healthcare costs for everyone because people look at it going, well,

(34:06):
I don't have to pay it. The government's going too,
and you know there's a moral hazard there obviously too.
And that's that's the problem with universal healthcare is you know,
well people just simply go to the emergency. If I
don't have to pay for it, I'll overuse it. That's
a theory.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
So you would still have to pay your bills, of course,
because it would just not be on your credit report.
But I would also argue that there's been studies that
said medical debt is a poor indicator of paying other
types of credit.

Speaker 8 (34:38):
So if you had credit.

Speaker 6 (34:40):
Cards, or paying your mortgage, or paying.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
Your light bill, your electric bill, but if you have
medical debt, that's a poor indicator of whether you're going
to pay other debts back. And people do you want
to pay off their medical bills. Medical bills can be
medical debt can be embarrassing, but it's not their fault.
It's really a fault of a broken system. It's not

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a debt of luxury.

Speaker 8 (35:07):
It is a debt of necessity.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
So that's what I would argue back, is that people
people do want to pay their bills back, and putting
these predatory practices in place hinders a lot of people
from doing that.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
In that regard, Michelle Grim, is there a means test
or income requirement? I mean, you know, it sounds all
well and good that people do want to pay their
debts off generally speaking, But how do we separate people
who generally can't afford to pay versus those who simply
say I'm not going to pay or choose not to pay.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
So I think that there when you look at the studies,
it's a lot of people who cannot afford to pay,
a lot of people do want to pay their bills,
but they simply can't afford it.

Speaker 6 (35:48):
They're they're choosing.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
Between putting food on the table, or paying their their
electric bill, or paying their mortgage, or paying their.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
Medical debt off.

Speaker 4 (36:01):
So it's it is a lot of people who don't
have any savings or anything like that. A lot of
people don't have one thousand dollars for an emergency, and
that's why we're putting people in a bind with medical debt.
But we want to help people with.

Speaker 8 (36:17):
House book to fifty seven.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Yeah, this is Michelle Grimm. She's out of Toledo House
Bill two fifty seven. She's go sponsoring this one to
help people with medical debt because one in three Ohioans
carry some sort of medical debts. A number one cause
of bankrow, I think with the top two costs of
bankruptcy in the United States, but one drives the other.
Job lessness would be number one, and health insurance bankruptcy

(36:40):
is another one, and I think those two go hand
in hand because for a lot of people, their jobs
and healthcare tied together, which is part of the problem.
This would limit medical interest to what you say, three
percent a year. You can't guarn someone's wages for medical
debt collection, and hospitals and providers can't report medical debt
to credit agencies right now. And I think in the
last few years were reformed it to be. I believe Michelle,

(37:01):
unpaid medical bills were kicked over to credit reporting agencies
after like sixty or on hundred and twenty days and
now it's a full year correct correct. Yeah, So, I
mean even the credit industry has said, hey, you know,
we've got to wet, we got to ease back a
little bit here Maan after a full year. Now, does
that mean that people aren't making any payments whatsoever? If
you pay a little bit of money, does that keep

(37:23):
you from being reported to credit agencies? How does that work?
Or is that with this what two fifty seven seeks
to do.

Speaker 8 (37:29):
So I think it depends.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
I think typically I think if you're making payments that
it would not be reported. But I think in some
instances you will see reports that like people are making
payments or maybe they fell behind so and you know
what I was talking about before, they maybe sell behind
one or two months and then it gets reported on

(37:51):
the credit report. So you know, the system isn't really
fair for consumers, and we want to make it a
little fair for people to get ahead, for people to
have a fighting chance. So you know, I think that
a lot of the arguments against this too is around

(38:14):
wage garnishments. I do want your listeners to look up
this article from Signal, Ohio about a rural hospital of
Logan County who has who has sued twenty seven hundred
patients in the last two years. Yeah, and a lot

(38:35):
of their a lot of the judgments in court were
wage garnishments. So people are paying up to twenty five
percent of their they're getting up to twenty five percent
of their checks garnished their payroll checks, plus they're paying
that eight percent interest, So.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
That's that's pretty cool. I think most people listening, Oh wow, okay,
I'm not quite sure I want to stay can medical
bills at the same time, like, how am I supposed
to live if i'm that's almost like child support? Right
in child support, you had a conscious shouldn't have a child,
and you provide for your child. That's a different matter
than Hey, I just got sick, and maybe I got
sick because it's something at work or I fell or
something along the way, and it happens all of us

(39:17):
at some point or another. And now that we're taking
a quarter of your wages, that seems confiscate. How can
you live on the other seventy five percent?

Speaker 8 (39:25):
And can I go back to what you just said?

Speaker 4 (39:26):
So we're not again, we're not suggesting that the state
is paying medical bills. We're just saying we're going to
have these parameters of credit reports, wage garnership, and interest rates.

Speaker 8 (39:40):
So I just wanted to kind of.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Yeah, that's fair.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
I was.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
I was referring more to what we did in Cincinnati
not long ago when council approved a million and a
half to a nonprofit that collected money and wiped out
about two hundred twenty million debt for twelve thousand Cincinnatians
and just buying the debt from the credit companies.

Speaker 4 (39:59):
So I asked, actually did that in Toledo about It'll
be three years ago, So Toledo kind of led the
way for cities. County was the first one, and so
we actually eliminated debt for about one hundred and twelve

(40:20):
thousand people around the region, including forty three thousand Lucas
County residents. And that no profit is undo medical debt.
They do great work, so and they negotiate directly with
the hospitals.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
So yeah, I contemplate that one because this is outside
of your scope as a state lawmaker, Michelle Grimm. But
the beef I have, like, for example, the government shutdown
over Obamacare and the ACA. You know we're fighting over
subsidy is the problem. It's not not healthcare. We're so
we're taking money from a group of taxpayers and transferring

(40:55):
it to another money of ped taxpayers without addressing the
problem in Congress for a long time, and we would
need all this stuff if we would just reform healthcare
properly instead of having Democrats and Republicans fight each other
and and do this insane stuff. I mean, Obamacare, it
makes it doesn't make it affordable. Uh, it's extremely expensive,
is the problem. The Affordable Care Act is a misnomer.

(41:17):
You're just here, You're subsidizing something that's extremely expended. Let's
figure out why we're paying you know, three times more
than most double what most countries are for less health
care doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
Yeah, yeah, no, I would absolutely agree with that, and
I would I would say that a lot of people
in the healthcare space, looking at the core problem, which
is our work at healthcare system, it would absolutely agree
with that. And so I know we're here not to

(41:48):
talk about and do. But what what they're able to
do is they're able to purchase that pennies on the
dollar from hospital systems or second second, the secondary market.

Speaker 8 (41:59):
But you know, people do.

Speaker 7 (42:01):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
People, you know I've gotten I've gotten a lot of
emails and a lot of calls saying like I got
a letter from New Medical Debt, thank you very much.
It really did help a lot of people. But yes,
you are correct, it does not solve the broken healthcare system, right,
and you know that's what you know, that's what we
need to keep working on. And so bills like House

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still to fifty seven they make the rules a little
bit fairer.

Speaker 8 (42:31):
But we still have a lot of.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
Work to do.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Yeah, you mentioned Logan County, Small and Logan Counties right
in our listing areas in the I think around the
where the Armstrong Space, you know, Wapa Canetta up that way. Yeah, yeah,
about an hour an hour and a half hour forty
minutes from us here in Cincinnati, So Logan County pastor,
and if you're going up north to Toledo, for example,
so in that county you said that, you know, they're
garnishing people's wages and like, and I kind of get

(42:54):
that in a sense is I don't know if they're
being confiscatory and it's you know, the evil capitalists world.
This mustache in the corner lighting a cigar with one
thousand dollars bills. But in some sense, hospitals, and especially
rural hospitals are under struggles right now. We're having a
number of them close as a result of the healthcare
system which is not going to serve anyone in those areas.

(43:15):
How do you ensure they still get fair payment while
protecting the patients from excessive debt collection practices.

Speaker 4 (43:21):
So I think what's going to hurt our rural hospitals
in the long run is the cuts to Medicaid and
Medicare and also the increased costs because the ACA SUN subsidies.

Speaker 8 (43:37):
May go away.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
So that's going to be really where they're going to
get hit the hardest. It's not gonna be because they
can't put it on our report or they can't garnish wages.
A lot of hospitals actually don't garnish wages or through
their patients. This is actually a pretty aggressive practice with
this one hospital because actually a lot of hospitals.

Speaker 8 (43:58):
Don't do that.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
They you know, tend to try to work with the
patient or or they you send it to that collection, right,
But not every but not every hospital does that. A
couple of the hospitals in the area in the state
have said that this doesn't this build has those two
fifty seven doesn't really affect us. It doesn't affect our operations.

Speaker 8 (44:20):
So but so, yeah, that's what I would say is.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
That maybe it's just but maybe more like the rural
I mean, because you look at rural areas that are
losing population and they've got one hospital or clinic and
now you've got fewer people in there. So I get
the model. Whereas in Cincinnati and Dayton, Toledo, in bigger cities,
you can absorb those costs, but better you have more
people to draw.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
Yeah, but but again I think that what's coming down
the pipeline here is our cuts to Medicaid and our
cuts to Medicare and the AC subsidies going away. It's
really going to hurt our rural hospital system. Not prohibiting
putting medical debt or credible.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
It's a hospital two fifty seven, and medical debt is
a crisis in America, has been for a long time.
Makes up about sixty percent of our consumer debt. This
would limit the interest on that to three percent a
heared capit of three percent interest, ban wage garnishment for
medical debt collections, and stop hospitals and providers and debt
collectors from reporting that debt to credit agencies provided you're

(45:25):
paying something. I mean, isn't it safe to say in
the end most hospitals, gey, hey, listen, I owe all
this money, and here's what I make. We've got to
work on a payment plan, whether it's you know, twenty
bucks a month or something like that, which you'll never
touch it, but at least I'm giving you something. Does
that satisfy most hospitals if put the effort in so,
you know, I think I can't speak for the hospital systems,

(45:47):
but certainly a lot of the hospital.

Speaker 4 (45:50):
Systems do work out payment plans. They also offer charity
care options. People can ask for charity care options. Then
I would really encourage uh folks to do that and
just kind of look at all of your options. So
if you if you do have medical debt or bills
you can't pay, ask questions. So this is kind of

(46:13):
my call to action for everybody. Ask questions. Ask you know, hey,
why was I charged this? Or can I set up.

Speaker 8 (46:19):
A payment plan?

Speaker 4 (46:21):
Or hey, I can't afford this right now? So I
would say keep you know, negotiate with the hospital or
the debt collection agency, and just make sure that you're
uh negotiating that way, because you you do have negotiating
power and you can work on uh making sure.

Speaker 8 (46:43):
That you you do you do keep up with.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
Your bills and you don't fall behind, and it does
go on your credit report until you know, until just
stas so so so yeah, I would say, like, you know,
just work, you know, talk, talk to the hospitals, look
at your medical bills, ask questions, and you know the
hospitals should be happy.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
To work with you.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Right. Uh, Michelle, that you have biopartisan sport for those
a bipartination.

Speaker 4 (47:12):
Yes, yeah, absolutely, it touches every So my my joint
sponsor is Representative Jean Schmidt.

Speaker 8 (47:20):
So uh, you know, it.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
Touches everybody's district, everybody's district. Ye, so you know it's
not just rural districts or urban districts or suburban district
is everybody's district.

Speaker 6 (47:34):
And everybody everybody.

Speaker 4 (47:37):
Knows someone who has had medical debt or has medical
debt currently. And you know, again, we want to make
sure that the playing field is a little fair for people,
and we want to make sure people get ahead and
not keep them down. And I think the household two
fifty seven, Uh, while it doesn't fix everything, it makes
us a little bit closer to uh.

Speaker 8 (48:00):
A fare system.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Yeah, it makes sense. Jeene Schmid in the sixty second district,
so you know, fairly rural areas there too, Claremont County,
so it has urban and rural support. And it's bipartisan,
which I like a lot. And it also helps people
and it doesn't seem to unfairly incentivize someone not to
pay their bills, which which I like. She is Michelle Grimm,
Democrat at Toledo Houspill fifty spence two fifty seven, along

(48:24):
with Jeanie Schmidt here in Claremont County, and I wish
all the best, thanks again for coming on the show.
Thank you Scott so too long didn't read. We have
a government buying back medical debt from pennies on the
Dottarm to discharge that debt for Ohioans, while the other
side of the government causes our healthcare insurance to be
so cost prohibitive people go into debt for it. One hand,

(48:47):
I don't know breaking the other so to speak. I
don't know what to make of this. Just address the
core issue about that, not at the state level, but
at the federal level. We've got a news update. We'll
switch it up. Bengals at Buffalo this week and Austin
Elmore here from ESPN fifteen thirty. We'll talk about that
and Kyle Schwarber watch as well on seven hundred W WELW.

(49:09):
Here we go on this Friday morning, sports, sports and
more sports At ten forty one. Austin Elmore from ESPN
fifteen thirty is here. He's on at noon with Tony
Pike and here to talk about everything sports, including the
Crosstown shootout tonight. Dan Hord told me at nine oh
six that he had an afro the last time that
the UC Bearcats won at Sinta Center, which I fully

(49:32):
believe two.

Speaker 9 (49:33):
Thousand and one. Yeah, I'm sure Dan had some last hair.
I'm sure Dan had some lettuce up there. Sick chatty,
we need to uncover some of those old Dan Ord photo.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (49:45):
I wonder like, did he ever go through a phase
when he was in his late teens early twenties where
you know, it grew out a little sit I added
down by.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
The shoulders that looked like a dandelion. Yeah, I would
like to see if I'm sure Dan's listening, Dan, feel
free to send those photos along, they said, I naphro
and yeah, two thousand and one, and where he has
probably had like the acid washed denim jacket with the
teal and the cranberry color. I could totally see in
the nineties. Yeah, look about him. So all right, we

(50:16):
got to shoot out tonight. Yeah, does you see get
off the schneid? Probably not? No, No, you can't.

Speaker 7 (50:21):
No.

Speaker 9 (50:22):
I mean, why should I believe? It's been twenty four
years since they've won there. I need to like actually
see it to believe that they're going to do it.
And I think both these teams are kind of going
in the opposite direction. Like Xavier has a really bad
start but has slowly, you know, increased and trended up
since then, whereas Cincinnati they just really are kind of

(50:44):
meddling below what anybody expected them to be, still struggling
a little bit offensively, inconsistent shooters, They've had some injuries.
They just never feel like they show up when they're
supposed to show up. I think for the sake of
the rivalry, it would be great rate if you see
goes in there and wins. I do think though, it
would be really funny if in two seasons, with two

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very different expectations on both sides, Xavier once again is
the boogeyman to you see, And I would be curious
to see what that would mean for Wes Miller.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
Yeah, I think you know what that that is absolutely correct.

Speaker 9 (51:21):
I mean I truly don't have a dog in the fight,
Like I have no allegiance to either one of them.
But to me, the story is less about the game
and more about what happens to Wes Miller if they
lose it. That's that if the Bearcats lose it, So
that to me is the story of the shootout.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
Radsury signed Emilio Pegan with a really good contract actually
two years ten and he gets, you know, one year
out for the club and all that, and some people
are reading that as well, that's because they're getting everything
together to sign Kyle Schwarber. How much are we buying
that that that's gonna happen because there's a Yeah, there's
a lot of smoke there. Yeah, but I just wonder
if it's not off season. I think there's a lot

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more smoke than anybody anticipated. And when you look at
legitimate Major League Baseball insiders, guys like Ken Rosenthal and
Buster Only and Jeff Passen and John Hayman, when all
those guys are saying something that tells me that there
is serious interest by the Reds to try to pursue
Kyle Schwarber. I also think there is interest from Kyle

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Schwarber to play in Cincinnati.

Speaker 9 (52:24):
Why wouldn't there be that? Being said, he's thirty two
years old and this is his last chance to really
cash in. So, if you're Schwarber, do you want to
take a hometown discount? Because the Reds are not. Even
if they make an exception to spend more money this
offseason than what we have already been told they're going
to spend, they're still not going to be able to

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compete with Philadelphia and New York and others.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
From a financial standpoint.

Speaker 9 (52:51):
Now, let's be clear, the Reds have more money and
they can spend more money than they let on. They
choose not to spend more more money. That is their choice.
They run the business, that's their you know, their progative.
They can do whatever they want with their money. However,
it makes you wonder would they be willing to make

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an exception on their business plan and their model to
go after Kyle Schwarber And what would that mean in return?
More season tickets, more Jersey sales, more. I think these
are the things they're trying to balance. I think they
want Kyle Schwarber at their price, which might be it
would require, truthfully, Bob Castellini, the and the Red's ownership

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group to make an exception for the way that they
plan on building this team. I don't know if that's
going to happen, but I do think it's a lot
more realistic than anybody thought it would be going into
this office.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
One of those were they're paying him ten years after
he That's that's a great way point.

Speaker 9 (53:54):
And I've been trying to ask around it and kind
of wonder what the Reds thoughts are on that, because
they haven't done it a long time. Griffy just expired
a couple of years ago. Bronson Arroyo was the last guy.
I think that they did it with right and with
a labor a workstopage almost certainly going to happen next summer.
I wonder how much that would play into the role

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on both sides, Kyle Schwarber thinking about money down the
road or the Red's thinking about money down the road. Yeah,
all right, well we'll see how that plays out. There's
plenty of time.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
In a lot of time, let's get to the game
on Sunday the Bengals at the Bills Orchard Park and
get a little bit of snow, nothing crazy thirty one
degrees and some snow flurries. I will point something out
because I know you love things like this. Austin Elmore
that can only imagine what this is going to be.
At high Mark Stadium, they have like the Bengals do here,
they have something called the battle Boat and it's a
I don't know where you get it, but it's a

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boat of waffle fries. Oh. On one half of this
they introduced this last year and it's a big hit
waffle fries. On one side is the Buffalo style ingredients,
which would be shaved roast, beef, chatter, horse, Riddish pickle,
caraway seeds. So it's a beef on weck sure, okay,
as opposed to a chicken wing one. What do you
think that since Natty Sis you said waffle fries, waffle

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fries and they do team ingredients there, so sure there
would be some sort of chili like a chili cheese
fry type of thing, kill bassa coleslaw, barbecue sauce, sweet pickles.
So that's like, that's not us at all that's Cleveland. Yeah, yeah,

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that's insulting. You mean, this is the straw. There you go,
it's over there, you go. You guys have done It's
it's too far. It's a bridge, a bridge. We've got
to polish people all of the kind of operation or
you guys run just I'm just putting it out.

Speaker 9 (55:42):
Everybody's focused on the new stadium. Nobody really thinking right,
got to step up? Can you get so? It makes
me wonder the last time the Bengals played there was
in the playoffs. Did they serve that then?

Speaker 2 (55:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (55:58):
No, this is the second year they've done the bat
Speaking of boats, I want to give a shout out
really quickly to the Baltimore Ravens because on Thanksgiving night
when the Bengals played there, they gave away to all
their fans a Baltimore Ravens gravy boat. What an awesome
giveaway for Thanksgiving. Yeah, that's a really good idea. A

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gravy boat. Yeah damn, that's a little of Baltimore Ravens
and Sidney gravy boat.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, instead of like you know, a
mug or something.

Speaker 9 (56:29):
When the last time the Bengals did a giveaway at
a game other than like rally towels. I don't know
that they ever had that. I can remember that they
sent for now any of the Reds. Their whole identity
is bobblehead.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
Bobblehood.

Speaker 9 (56:43):
I have a friend who went to the Bengals Giants
game last year. They gave away a Tom Coughlin bobblehead.
He brought it back for me. It was cool as hell.
That's pretty cool. I don't think the Bengals do that. No,
I wish they would. There, I've said it, all right,
you guys spoke your peace. Let's talk about this game.
I don't know what make of this game. I don't
know which team show. I don't know which Bengals team

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shows up. I don't know which Bills team shows. Yeah,
two very similar teams in the sense of like one
minute they look like they're really good and the next
minute they look like they could miss the playoffs. And
it feels like from what I've been reading with Buffalo
that they kind of feel like their back is up
against the walls, especially offensively. Yeah, they ran the ball
for two hundred and fifty yards last week against Pittsburgh,

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but the pass game still hasn't been great. Joe Brady's
under a lot of pressure, and hell Sean McDermott said,
we know our backs are against the wall because they're
trying to make a run at winning the division and
being able to host a playoff game, and the way
New England's playing, I don't know that that's going to
be possible. But the way that the Bills have played,
it's been very inconsistent. And the Bengals offense, I think

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is right now trending in the right direction against Buffalo
because Buffalo's defense is one of the worst in the
NFL against the run. The Bengals offense running the football
over the last month and a half has been the
best in the National Football League. And here's a ridiculous
stat that I bet you know as a Bills fan
that a lot of people listening don't know. The Buffalo
Bills have a higher missed tackle percentage than the Cincinnati Bengals.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Yes, I knew that. Is that not hard?

Speaker 9 (58:13):
If you've watched a Bengals game this year, you've seen
the worst tackling team maybe in history, But the Bills
are actually worse.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
I watch both teams every week and I'm not going
to say this, the date is wrong, but I don't
see it. I mean, maybe it's because the Bengals a
lot with on bigger plays, maybe, but the inability to
tackle solo just perplexes me to And then when you're
looking for it, you see it more. You know, it's
one of those.

Speaker 9 (58:38):
Now it's like fifteen percent for Buffalo, thirteen percent for
the Bengals, so it's very close. But either way, I
think you could look at this and say, maybe it's
a track.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
But the thing that ails the Bills is and it
sounds I'm not making excuses because there's a number of
things outside of this that ail the Bills as well,
is the number of injuries, and it's just it is
not it's a non stop. It's not. I think there're
two or three league now, you know, when your kicker
doesn't kick for the entire season, it's gonna be one
of those years. And even you know, this past week

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we're like, okay, well cornerbacks, we'll get into that. But
you know when you sign a guy that says, yeah,
you know what I think about retiring, and then the
guy in Jamarkus King of the cornerback did for Darius Slay.
The guy that you release make room on the squad
goes to get signed by Houston, and now not only
you're down essentially two cornerbacks.

Speaker 10 (59:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
No, By the way, T Higgins is coming back this week.
At least it looks that now it's Slay now he
you know, Chase lit him up when he was in
Pittsburgh in Week seven, So it's not like, okay, it's
a world stop.

Speaker 9 (59:36):
Yeah, there's a lot of layers to the Darius Slay thing.
I think he wanted to be a Philadelphia Eagle, and
Drew Rosenhaus, his agent, is obviously a very powerful agent,
and I think maybe trying to strong arm the Bills
or whatever, and the Bills should probably tell him to
shove it. That's what I would do. But yeah, I mean,
you talk about that, you talk about aj Epanessa. You're
a linebacker who went down with a foot injury and

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practice the other day. Joey Bosa doesn't look like he's
going to be able to play this week. Great edge
rusher that they signed. You were missing both your starting
tackles last week. Now I think they're gonna be able
to play this week. Deon Dawkins and Spencer Brown, but yeah,
I know, Trey Hender, it's yeah, no tray for the Bengals.
Maybe not this week, maybe not ever again, but yeah,
it's it's two teams that are in a very similar

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spot with polar opposite records.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
It's fascinating, no question. Yeah, And that's why you can
it's hard to like, I know, the Bills are favored
by five five and a half at home, and a
lot of that's probably home, but you have no idea
which team shows up and what they The Bengals if
they can even put a damper on James Cook. If
they can't, it's over. I agree with that.

Speaker 9 (01:00:40):
Yeah, I mean, ultimately, it's gonna come down to the Bengals'
ability to stop the run. And you worry about, well,
if you're selling out to stop the run, and what
are you going to allow Josh Allen to do on
the backside. And that's what makes Buffalo such a dangerous
team and difficult to defend. And I think, honestly, it's
the same situation for the Bengals right now. As I mentioned,
their run game is as good as any in the

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NFL right now. And oh, by the way, Joe Burrow
is back, Jamar Chase is still here. T Higgins is
likely to come off of They're all back and they're
all gonna be good to go. So, you know, I
think the other thing, too, is and Joseph Osai said
this after the game, that you just feel it and
you can see it, and there is a difference in
the locker room and a belief in the Bengals locker

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room when Joe Burrow is on the field, and that's
sort of intangible, and that sort of leadership is something
that you just can't measure. And for the guys that
were here in January of twenty three when the Bengals
went up there as six point underdogs like they are
right now and handed it to the Buffalo Bills, there's
got to be a lot of confidence from that group

(01:01:42):
of players going into Buffalo there. We know how to
play in the same situation. This place doesn't scare up.
They're beat up, and.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
You know, and this time I have any wide receivers
to throw too, And that's also part of the problem,
explains A. And I think the takeaway game is gonna
be big if Josh Allen continues to try and find
guys that aren't open or break off on the wrong
route could be good for for the Bengals.

Speaker 9 (01:02:00):
Second, one of the sneaky you know, turning points for
the Bengals defense over the last couple of weeks has
been number one. DJ Turner's having a great season outside
at corner, and when Cam Taylor Britt went down, the
Bengals moved Dax Hill to the outside, brought up Jalen
Davis from the practice squad to play at the slot,
and that has worked out really well when it comes

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to defending teams in the past game. I think that's
an interesting one to work and we talk about how
the Buffalo Bills often it seems like they're always looking
for a wide receiver. Since Stefan Diggs left, the Bengals
I think have a slight advantage against that group as well.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Okay, later today new in ESPN fifteen thirty, Tony Pike,
Austin Helmer, what do you got.

Speaker 9 (01:02:40):
We'll talk to Charlie Goldsmith. He outlined the path what
it would actually take for the Reds to get Kyle Schwarber.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
We'll talk to him.

Speaker 9 (01:02:46):
We'll talk to Rick Brooring, who is the color commentator
for NKU basketball but also Musketeer Report dot Com. We'll
get the xavier side of things ahead of the Crossdown
shootout tonight. We've also got Kyle Decker from the Red
Brick Legacy looking ahead of the championship game with the
Miami RedHawks. We'll do our picks and so much more.
All Right, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Later today now on in THEESPN fifty. If I appreciate you,
thank you, Sham. We'll get a news update in Scott's
Loan Show Friday morning, seven hundred WLW.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
Do want to be an American?

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
It's a Scott's Loan Show on seven hundred w LW.
You always love once a month or so catching up
with our friends at the Claremont County Veteran Services Commission.
Steve Belso is the executive director there, joining the show
this morning. And now you guys have had quite a year.
As we kind of wrap up the surer to believe
the year's gone already.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
Man, it's got I'll tell you what. It goes so fast.
But when you get lost and just helping people out time,
just screening by. So it's it's been a fantastic year
for helping Come County veterans.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
When you look at the numbers for the year. How
many have you served?

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
Approximately, that's a little bit over twenty five hundred, still
getting exact, but that also is twenty five hundred veterans
and finally claims for benefits or healthcare as well as
like emergency financial assistance helping to shore up veterans lives.
So we've had a really good year helping veterans of

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Cremonk County.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
Yeah, that's awesome. That's that's quite a lot. Is it
mainly the service, right? Is it mainly VA care or
how would that break down?

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
Say that again?

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
I said, was it mainly v A care or how
did that break how's the services you provide breakdown?

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
Oh? Sure, So when you talk about the services of
a county Veterans Service Office, it really like a three
legged stool, and the three legs represent the filing to
the VA for benefits and claims assistance, transportation to and
from the VA for VA medical appointments, as well as

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emergency financial assistance. And those are the three core pillars
of what we do in the Veteran Service Office.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Gotcha? Gotcha? And I know you've added some help too
as well. Well, that's good that you're growing so you
can adjust your calendar and make more appointments and get
more people service.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
Oh, it was absolutely needed. With usage of our transportation
is we take vetterings from their home door to the
VH front door and back home. And the increase in
people desiring transportation through us has been exponential over the
past year. So the fact that I've had to hire

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a number of new drivers as well as we purchased
another vehicle just to help the fleet because we were
doing a drop, run and grab someone else sort of
the revolving door a van constantly moving. It's really been
beneficial to add extra personnel to drive the hours the

(01:05:50):
VA is setting appointments for but having another vehicle to
assist in those appointments as well has been very beneficial. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
I love the fact, you know, you keep improving, you
keep getting better, you add more services in the like
we're talking off air about Mattia Mobility, the company I
speak for Dave, my buddy Dave, where you know, it's
a wheelchair that you stand up in. Basically it picks
you up and lifts you up. You can and you guys,
the VA was the first to lean into this technology
saying yeah, we want our veterans to have this this

(01:06:21):
capacity to actually stand up out of their chair, because yeah,
a lot of people here, well you get the bare bones,
basically get you know, surplus materials, you know, wheelchairs left
from the nineteen seventies. Instead, it's not true at all.
I mean, when it comes to tip of the spear,
you guys are you're right, the VA's right there, and
then you are able to navigate that field and get
these devices for veterans. What VET think is that's just

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a great example of your motto, what you stand for
and what the mission is.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
Absolutely when you think of the for how many years
that we thought of the exoskeleton and taking the warrior
in the battle because the soldiers load that which he's
carrying has become so heavy they can't drag every thing
with them. But if we give them an exoskeleton that
they mount to themselves, you can add extra weight to

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it because the better themselves in the wartime is not
carrying that weight. And now we transfer that to a
non ambulatory uh situation where a bur in his wheelchair
bound and now this exoskeleton is picking the individual up
out of their wheelchair and given mobility, I'm glad you
introduced that to me this morning. What a great concept.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Yeah, it is something else, and you know I demoed it.
It's just such a game changer. But again, not to
you know, turn into the commercial or anything like that. The
fact of the matter is you guys want this. You
want the best care possible for our veterans. And I
think we often and on my show especially, you know,
we take a jaded look at government, the inefficiencies, the incompetence,
the problems, the finger point and lack of solving problems.

(01:07:53):
You guys turned that paradigm completely around, flipped on.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
Sad we have we have And I spent twenty nine
years on active duty and this was my role as
a senior Marine. Is just ensuring the troops are fed.
They're bad, they're they're taking care of the medical appointments
are happening. Is what is missing? And how do you
take care of your men and women and your unit.

(01:08:15):
And it's the same way for me now in Claremont County,
twelve and a half thousand veterans in the county. I
call them my troops. It's how am I taking care
of them? Are they getting the services that they need
and what is the time frame which we're able to
help them do. That is all in the forefront of
my mind.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
He is Steve Balso with Claremont County Veteran Service Organization
the VSO, and just kind of kicking the tires around
what went on this year. If you're a veteran and
you live in Claremont County haven't reached out yet, and
there's anything you need, and you may think it's minor
or trivial, they probably can get an answer for you
at the very least, or get you the help you
need at the very bus and do it in such

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an time efficient manner. You don't have time to navigate
all this stuff, whether it's you know, medical appointments to
get from the VA for just to check up, or
just simple procedures take you to another doctor that you've
been referred to. They can do all this and so
much more, and they're hiring more and more drivers to
transport veterans from their home to via medical appointments. And
how about you doing a month.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
Now right now? For the past four months, we've done
one hundred and thirty plus veteran transportations and that was
with four vehicles. Now we have the fifth one added,
so you know, twenty percent improvement over vehicle overuse. And
then obviously there's there's maintenance, so you have to take

(01:09:34):
a vehicle down, and oil changes, high rotations, everything else
that comes into play. So bringing in a staff of
drivers plus and additional vehicle. I will tell you the
five commissioners of the Veteran Service Office for Claremont County
support me one hundred percent in moving this office forward
to include so only adding another Veteran Service officer that

(01:09:56):
we then can reduce the wait time to get in
to see servious officer to apply for your benefits that
still aren't realized from your service.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
When you and I think for those of us who
you know, let's face it, our tax money goes to
fundness and it's such a you know, there's a lot
of things we complain about paying taxes for. This is
one I lean into and go good, this, this is
a good use of my tax money is to support
the vsos and all eighty eight counties in Ohio and
the counties where you live. And that is the mandate
from the state of Ohio. That's how you are funded
to get veterans help. They need because it's almost like

(01:10:29):
having a tax attorney. I've said in the past it's like,
if you have enough, you know, you need a tax
attorney or someone to figure out what your tax bill
is or what you're going to get this year because
you have no idea how to navigate that. That is
true with the VA because it's a labyrinth of as
you can imagine, bureaucracy, and the average person is especially
if you're sick, you're under stress. You don't have time
or the energy of the knowledge to navigate that. You

(01:10:50):
need a specialist like you and the others there to
do this for you. That said, to give the lay person,
average person or maybe in a veteran, how many hours
would be spent behind the scenes just getting someone I
don't know the healthcare or something, a specialist or something
along those lines, and get into treatment they need. How
many hours are devoted to just like one patient?

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
Great question. That's that's something too, because people like fingerprints,
everyone's different, and to build out what is the media
in time it wouldn't reflect anybody, but yet it's everybody.
We actually did an hour and a half for every
veterans appointment when they come through the doors. But the

(01:11:32):
veterans also told know what you want to file for,
make sure we have your D two fourteen on file.
If you we don't bring a company with you, as
well as supporting documentation to help us file your claim
for you, because if there is no supporting documentation, the
VA is going to kick it back.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
Yeah, you need all that stuff, and it just you
spend hours and hours just down one case. This is
why you need more people working at the VAS, to
the Veteran Service Organization, I guess, in order to navigate that.
So the time spent would be considerable just for one person,
but that they're working for you. So if you need
that kind of help assistance, and it's not just VA care,
there's other things that you do, right that will help

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a veteran correct.

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
Right, right, So besides just getting you enrolled in via
healthcare and or secondary to that is getting you to
and from your VA medical appointments. And there was a
veteran sent up to Cleveland to the Cleveland clinic a
couple of months ago. We drove the veteran to the
Cleveland clinic and the Ohio Revice Code stipulates that we

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are to transport veterans within the geographic vicinity of our
VA hospital. And so I called the VIA Hospital Cincinnati
and I said, well, what is our geographic vicinity? They
use something that's called vistant. I can't tell you what
the acronym stands for, but basically.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
Any in the military that is.

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
No, no, we need one more. That is Michigan, Indiana
and Ohio. That's their area. Even though there's multiple hospitals
by the VA throughout the area. So there potentially is
a large task on moving veterans to and from their
VA medical appointments. The only thing Clermont, as a VSL

(01:13:22):
office cannot do is we don't have non ambulatory vans
such that there's no hift on our vans. I cannot
take somebody in a wheelchair. However, we have partnered with
the Claremont County Senior Citizens who has those type of
vehicles that will pick up somebody in the wheelchair and
take them to their VA appointment. So we've got everything

(01:13:45):
covered for getting veterans to and from their medical appointments.
But then, in concert with what you were asking about, Sonya,
what else is there? There's also emergency financial assistance. The
Ohio Revised Code has established that we're to help veterans
within them a certain span of financial I guess disability,

(01:14:09):
to bring them up out of the hole. If it's
not just a handout, it's not a dollar to Jimmy
on the corner. It's literally picking a veteran up and
getting them re established so they can continue on with life.
For many myriad reasons, these veterans will fall down, and
the most common is helped. That's what we think, right,

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but there are things coming back from being within the fence,
being on a base and then leading that full support
and it's how do I navigate lifelow? So some really
some assistance and then getting them moving forward. So it's
really a great program. That's an anomaly throughout the United
States that we have eighty eight counties in Ohio supported

(01:14:53):
by the Ohio Revice Code that we are funded by
the county to then take care of the veterans within
our county.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's it's such an amazing mission.
I'm glad you're there, and I'm happy to remind folks
about that, primarily veterans who are listening. And you know,
maybe you're fine right now, but as you get up
in years again, healthcare. You fought and served our country.
You're entitled to that. Don't think you're not, and everything
that goes along with that. We and we could do
more of course, as always, he's steep Also at the

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Climont County vs a Veteran services organization. If you're not
in Claremont County, there's one in Butler, there's Warren. If
you're in a county in Ohio, there's a veteran service
organization there to help you and your needs. But he's
the best. He's out of Claremont County. Steve, Happy holidays, brother,
and I appreciate you, and we'll talk again in the
new year.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
Tony. I look forward to it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
All rights you as well. You have Merry Christmas as well.
Scott's loan show, Quick time out. We've got news on
the way in just minutes. And I mentioned I brought
that up of the Mattia mobility chairs. I had a
friend of mine reach out the other day about that
thing and said, do you think I can get that
with my insurance? Mike, Well, you could, yeah, I think
that's entirely possible. It's not just veterans, because he has

(01:16:04):
a loved one that needs that kind of assistance there
in a wheelchair. Been in a wheelchair for like eight
years and this thing comes along and God bless American
research and development. It Basically how it works is instead
of just sitting in a wheelchair, it has a it
looks like one of those scooters you'd get like at
the grocery store, maybe a little bit smaller than that too.

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And what it does is it retracts. It allows you
to take this almost like if you see a window washer.
They sit kind of like on a window washing rig.
They sit on this poem form board basically film board.
It goes underneath you. You latch it on the to the
to the Tiam mobility chair. You press a button and

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it scoops you up, BLUs you from your bottom, and
puts you in a standing position. And so you're sitting
on that but your the front of your legs, your
shins are pressed up against patting and uh it takes
about five second thry to lift you up out of
that chair or the seated position, and then you just roll.
It's it's almost like like one of those anticap scooters

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that you see at a grocery store, except you're standing
upright and think about how much that changes. It's like
you're used to doing things that is sitting down, so
everything has to be you know, on a house or example,
or doing a remodel, and it has to be for
someone who's disabled. You can now go and do things
at counter height. You know, the microwaves over the stove.
You can get coke cook on a stove again. You know,

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if you like doing that kind of stuff, you can
go work in your shop and your garage and your car,
whatever it might be. You can do all these things now.
When it's time to sit back down, you press a
button and it lowers you back down. You can go
to the bathroom or it's a lot easier, it's a
lot safer, and you can even there's videos that guys
rolling these on the beach. You put just different tires
on takes just if it it really is. But that's
the kind of stuff that the the vsos are leaning

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into because they want that best for their veterans. And
we often hear about the inefficiencies and the problems bureaucracy
a government that you have everything that's left over and
ser plus and broken. That's not the case anymore, for sure.
So by thanks again to Steve for what he does
for our community. And we've got news on the way.
It's a Scott's Long show. This is seven hundred.

Speaker 10 (01:18:12):
The weekends coming on and you need to make the
most demand where to go and what to do. She
has the tips and inside to help you make it
a super weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
So listen up.

Speaker 10 (01:18:22):
This is the Local Loop with Allie Martin on seven
hundred w L Jebbe on Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
Here already ready to go. Let's go, let's go. What's up? Well,
wait the other micro I think you're on my s
There we go, Here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
We'll put that on your Spotify rap.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
Let's go, what's up?

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (01:18:39):
You know, just literally reviewing my twenty twenty five Spotify
lists of what my top artists are.

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
Listen to this, listen to this.

Speaker 11 (01:18:48):
This is a new feature that they put on the
Spotify wrap So if you don't know what Spotify Wrapped is,
you know, Spotify is the platform that you play music
and podcasting all that, and at the end of the
year they give you a recap of, you know, how
many minutes you've listened and your top artists and your
top songs. And I was looking through it. This morning,
and I'm slightly offended or I don't know, but it

(01:19:09):
now says here is your listening age, and it cheers
me up. It says age is just a number. By
the way, yeah, my listening age. Take a guess you're
listening age. I don't know, like fifty eighty six, eighty six?

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
What are you listening to?

Speaker 11 (01:19:26):
Real? So my top genre the orchestra.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
What's going on?

Speaker 11 (01:19:32):
I don't know, smooth jazz, house, indie pop, low fi indie, soul. Okay,
all right, all right, so smooth jazz. So it says
that my listening age is eighty six. So when you
call me a grandma, I guess it makes sense. There
you go, because I listened to a lot of dinner jazz.
It's a holiday season Christmas jazz.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
Here we are my top genres. Yes, smooth jazz, is it?

Speaker 3 (01:19:55):
Yeah? Really?

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
I don't like smooth jazz. I kind of I'm not
like the smooth elevated music jazz.

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
Would you like to play jazz playlist?

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
Yeah, I've got some jazz in there. Album rock okay,
hip hop okay, pop, yacht rock, yacht rock. Yeah. Age
is just a number. Don't take it personally.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
Yeah, So what is yours?

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
Say, it's calculating my gosh, I'm so excited four hundred
and seven. Let me see, no kidding, it's working on
it right now, it's thinking about it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:24):
God.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
If I'm younger than you.

Speaker 11 (01:20:26):
It's because then everyone's posting it on social media and
they get the recaps and some people are like, yeah,
I'm my listening age is like twenty five, and you
know the said person is thirty five.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
What is fifty? It says you're I don't clearly listen
to it. A lot of smooth jazz, Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
My god, oh, oh my god, and everybody else is
no one younger listens to jazz jazz, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:20:53):
I talk about jazz all the time.

Speaker 11 (01:20:55):
And here's the thing. I will play it so much
while I'm working, and so it's always it's the low fi.
Low fi is on my top genres.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
I get it. I like the hip hop and rock
is generally if I'm working out or something, need something, Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:21:09):
But then I'm weird. I'm also a Pandora goal. People
like does that still exist? Yes?

Speaker 10 (01:21:13):
It does?

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
It does it?

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
Sure does. I think they do.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
Better playlists depends what I'm in the mood for. If
I'm like cooking or something, I'll throw Italian. I have
thrown Sinatron like that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
Top genre overlaps.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
Yes, jazz is uh yeah, I don't just something about it.
I always like jazz.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
Yeah, and Christmas.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
And the other one is blues too.

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
A lot of blues wasn't on your genre.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
It wasn't didn't show up, didn't show surprise. I feel
it's not a different platform.

Speaker 11 (01:21:38):
I think that's sometimes I feel like they'll sneak in
some blues into some of those jazz playlists. But anyway,
'tis the Christmas jazz season, and there is so much happening. Yes,
when it comes to Christmas, I'm honestly there's we can't
name them all. Like you have King's Island Winterfest, you
have p and z Vestival of Lights at the Zoo,
you have the tillow Elves thing.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
We're up in Cincinnati toes. We also have Wild Fountain Square.
Isn't that right? Ice rink?

Speaker 4 (01:22:07):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:22:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:22:08):
That the tree is lit, ready to happen. But you know,
did you get your tree? Do you have a real
tree or a fake tree?

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
Fake tree? We were in the real tree business for
a while and the kids turned into a holes when
they're teenager, all right, screw you then, So did you
were done with it?

Speaker 11 (01:22:23):
Did you do the whole cutting the tree down?

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
When they were kids?

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
We changed religit. We just got out of a good play. Yeah,
we did the whole thing, and then they got to
that age where there was just like they're fighting. Yeah,
we just went, okay, that's it. We're getting our official tree.

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
Honestly, is your spree lit?

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, two pieces, I think two or three
pieces put together.

Speaker 11 (01:22:47):
The only let me tell you, there's nothing worse than
having a freak fake tree and the tree is not
pre lit, because that's my case and I'm so tired
of putting lights on.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
My tree now. Years and years ago, when we bought
this thing and to spend at least ten years longer,
we got one of one of those nice Balsam Hill
ones and they are like affordable. Then we looked at
getting one for you know, because we got downstairs and
they're like two thousand dollars for artificial trail. Like I'm
not paying that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:10):
They're so and even resale.

Speaker 11 (01:23:12):
Somebody I saw on Instagram the other day repost it
at Goodwill, which is supposed to be secondhand a used
tree for three hundred bucks.

Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
I'm like, you can go to Costco and you're just.

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
Right right right? Yeah exactly. I don't know.

Speaker 11 (01:23:24):
So now it gets you back on the do I
get a real tree train?

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
I think there's something so much.

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
A real tree going for now. Though they were they
were like close to ten fifteen years ago when I
last got really yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:37):
I think they've dropped in price a little bit.

Speaker 7 (01:23:38):
I know they have.

Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
Okay, here we go.

Speaker 11 (01:23:41):
Let me give you the lowdown, because I think cutting
down a tree and making that a tradition could be
the best holiday tradition. Now, Clark did this, I do.
I do this every year with two of my best friends.
I'm the third wheel all the time with the dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
Professional.

Speaker 11 (01:23:56):
There are probably thirteen to fifteen different places around town
that you can go and cut down a Christmas tree
anywhere from Bartles Farm up in Hamilton, Ohio, to Big
Tree Plantation Andmorrow, Yeah, Gubser Tree Farm and Alexandria. My
personal favorite though, is Corsey Tree Farm in Hammersville, Ohio.

(01:24:17):
You have over one hundred acres of trees every type
of tree you could possibly think of, the Norway spruce,
the Colorado blue spruce, your white tie. The list goes on,
and there's something about I just love it. They give
you the saw, and they give you the tarp, and
you go and your roam and you cut down the
tree itself. And anything up to ten feet is ninety dollars.

(01:24:41):
Oh okay, yeah, so they'll do live music. You can
get coco. There's ornaments there. It kind of turns into
this big, family friendly type excursion. And I'm also myself
and my friends we are on the hunt for somebody
who chopped down our favorite tree this year. I think
my friend is going through a little bit of a
traumatic experience where we found the tree that he absolutely loved.

Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
We're like, let's think about it.

Speaker 11 (01:25:06):
Let's just let's just look look, gid you not sixty
seconds later, a group of five or six people walk
up looking at the same tree, and this tree gets
chopped so fast, and my friend blesses, like you could
just he's just standing there like it's like hearing somebody

(01:25:28):
do the dirty in the next round, standing right here.

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
Yeah, I'm right here, you know.

Speaker 11 (01:25:33):
I thought he was and took it. So we crushed
Christmas tree dreams. And now I'm on the all right,
I did record them, so I think I'm gonna throw it.

Speaker 12 (01:25:41):
Up on you passed on it. It was a funny moment,
like a dog. The tree was too big, too full,
tree was way too big. That was at least fine.
I was like going out and tin at the end
of the whole thing. And I bring my own sow
because I'm nerdy that way.

Speaker 11 (01:25:53):
That's the other thing. If it's busy, better hope. But
then it's just like more likely.

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
And then they got the shaker in the bundler because
they shake off the dead leaves thing often they wrap
it up with the Is that what they do your
tree farms where we used to go in Lebanon and
they're awesome, a great family. And now they put it
like they put on a thing and shake it and
get all the dead needles off.

Speaker 1 (01:26:14):
Is that the round?

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
That's that's the wrapper. So before that they shake it
and they put it in the wrapper and it binds,
it gets close and they put it on your car.

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
Oh see, now do they put it on your car?

Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
I don't think so. I think I did it.

Speaker 11 (01:26:27):
Here's another here's some pro tips. Let's start from the top.
Number one, Bring an extra pair of shoes. Just speaking
from experience, it could be a little money you want to.

Speaker 2 (01:26:36):
Swap ony, I just wear the boots to begin with.

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
Well, here's the thing.

Speaker 11 (01:26:39):
If you don't want to track the mud in the car,
bring just bring an extra pair of shoes.

Speaker 1 (01:26:43):
Tickle, tickle, my fans come on.

Speaker 11 (01:26:45):
And then also bring extra bungee things ties as well
as scissors, because like they'll give you the string, which
is great, but sometimes you just need a little extra
leverage if you have a car wrack, that's ideal. I'm
saying this because because there have been a couple of
times where we've had to hold down the tree because
we did not do a good job of wringing it to.

Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
A professional tip. Okay, So they also sell a cargo
net that you can put so it's bungee cord, but
it's it's woven into a net and then it stretches
across anything that you may carry using my truck or
something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
You have to have a rack on it or can
it also.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
I supposed to girl the windows down. You can do anything.

Speaker 11 (01:27:24):
But yeah, because that's what we did. We rolled them
down and then hooked it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:27):
To or just get some hand which worked.

Speaker 11 (01:27:30):
This year. I'm just saying a little PTSD, very cold
hands in yours.

Speaker 2 (01:27:35):
Now you're thinking, like me, time to switch religions here?
Or how hard is that?

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
I'm a Buddhist now I know'd.

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
You having to go cut down a menora. It's just
you get it out of a drawer and put the
candles on.

Speaker 1 (01:27:49):
Let's go uncented as long as.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
You get a right stretch it out. Very at my
age now going this is a lot less work.

Speaker 11 (01:28:00):
And then I'm more gravitating to Buddhism, where it's just
quiet peace meditation.

Speaker 1 (01:28:05):
You light one candle and don't go.

Speaker 2 (01:28:07):
Druid because it's still about shrubs. Anyway, what else we
gotta go out in the Cincinnati.

Speaker 11 (01:28:11):
While we're on these odd Christmas adventures, let's talk about
the fact that Scuba Santa has made its.

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
Way back to the aquarium. Oh my god, so scool.

Speaker 11 (01:28:20):
So Santa not only has its pilot's license, he also
has a scuba license, of course, and he's back. And
I don't think we've really ever talked about this. So
it is time, because back at the aquarium over at
Newport on the Levee, and this is your chance to
tell Scuba Santa what you want for Christmas while he
swims underwater in his Santa suit.

Speaker 2 (01:28:44):
I always love that Santa. So you know who needs
to take that? You know, you know Scuba Steve needs
to borrow second clauses because that thing needs some wash.

Speaker 1 (01:28:52):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
Well he was wearing that yesterday and it was it
honestly was it was. It smelled like Dan Ackroyd's Christmas.

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
Because didn't you have your big holidaytion dig this week?

Speaker 3 (01:29:02):
Here?

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
Yeah, yesterday here and seg came out and now it's
like he's been wearing that. I'd been washed, sin, Yeah,
I was rough.

Speaker 1 (01:29:08):
I saw some videos of him dancing on the.

Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
Just saying they're Sega Claus pulling the salmon out of
his beard.

Speaker 1 (01:29:14):
Pull that get those Omega three?

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
All right?

Speaker 11 (01:29:18):
Yeah, so this is this is your chance to bring
the kiddos. It is fun though, right like if you're
looking for something to do that's not outside, because maybe
you're like me and you don't want to be outside
for every single winter Christmas activity. But this is your
chance to still be festive because they make the aquarium
festive and they have the Scuba Santa. They have different
events that are coming up. So on December fourteenth, they're

(01:29:40):
gonna do breakfast with Scuba Sana, So this is your
chance to there's gonna be a breakfast buffet, there's gonna
be playful elves. You can design your own Christmas ornament
and if you're a member there you also get a discount.
But this could be one of the first guests of
the day to see Santa. So come on in if
you want to do breakfast. They're als so doing other

(01:30:00):
events that are similar that are in the evening and
in the in in the morning, but one of them
in particular that they're doing at twenty one and plus event,
So it's a naughty or nice event happening the day
after Christmas. It's going to be a silent disco. They're
going to food and special seasonal drinks. You know, TACKI Christmas.

Speaker 1 (01:30:19):
You've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
That, I've heard of it. I don't what does that mean?

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
So it's special equipment.

Speaker 11 (01:30:23):
They'll bring in a DJ and everybody gets headphones and
there's like three or four channels and the DJ is
playing different yeah, and it's silent. The only music that
you hear. So when you're from an if you're an
outsider looking in. It's kind of bizarret because everybody's dancing
in the room assas.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
There's no human interaction because everyone's listening their own thing.

Speaker 1 (01:30:42):
Yes and no.

Speaker 11 (01:30:43):
I think part of the fun is also figuring out
who is listening to the same station that you're listening to,
because there's only a few to listen to, and usually
it's by genre.

Speaker 6 (01:30:51):
Mine.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
Clearly, you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
Make this way too smooth jass.

Speaker 1 (01:30:57):
So we're in the corner with our cocktails.

Speaker 2 (01:31:01):
Just sitting there by ourselvesping teeth. Let's have a smooth.

Speaker 1 (01:31:05):
Jazz chair that's clearly going right, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
Right, waiting for the heroin to kick it anyway. Alie
Martin the Local Loop, This Martging Scott flo Show seven
hundred Wow, real quick, we've got got remember one that.
Let's do one food thing.

Speaker 11 (01:31:20):
Oh, here we go the Flamingo Drive Bar and Lounge.
If you are sick of the cold.

Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
The drive bar, you said, not that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
Dive bar, drive It's called drive Bar and Lounge.

Speaker 11 (01:31:30):
Okay, Yeah, So it's Miami meets Milford. So this is
the same owners the Baracco brothers as the governor.

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
So you know Milford's main strip.

Speaker 11 (01:31:41):
Yeah, yeah, so this is right next door to the governor,
same owners, But truthfully, it is this interesting Miami Flamingo
Pink vibe very much on the beach. They have They're
heavy on their rum cocktails. They do this rizo Frido burger,
which is absolutely killer. They have a fried jerk chicken,

(01:32:05):
a Cuban sandwich. Is just something different. It's really bright,
it's really vibrant. So if you're maybe not landing something
so cozy, but something that brings you warmth and energy
in light.

Speaker 1 (01:32:17):
Yeah, it's it's really cool. The concert, you.

Speaker 11 (01:32:18):
Say that it was Miami meets Milford. Miami meets Milford,
What does that mean? I mean how many spots like
that around?

Speaker 2 (01:32:26):
I don't have a really, it's really not a tan.
I just have untreated high blood Prussure's. That's what Miami
meets mil for. She's Allie Martin Local Loop at Alie
martin Ate Good Drama on YouTube. Of course there's her
channel there and pops in every Friday morning it's what
to do, Eat, drink in. In this case, ninety was
Christmas Tree Talk, which is perfect. I love it. I'm
here for it. I'm so here for it. I appreciate you.

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