October 28, 2025 • 18 mins
Sloanie talks with political analyst Kevin Burton about the federal government shutdown and if something will be done by November 1st.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:21):
So hang type, be patient, and it is what it is.
So we jump in this morning with news a governor
a shutdown of course, approaching the thirty day mark, and
it's starting to become a growing liability for both the
Democrats and Republicans. So Republicans passed the Continuing Resolution, which
is basically kicking the can down the road to fund government.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
We do.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
That's all we do now is continuing resolutions and then
address it later on. And the threat of shutting the
government will happen in another seven weeks. So Democrats have
blocked it. They want enhanced Obamacare subsidies and want Medicaid funding,
and now with forty two million people set to lose
flo's assistance with snap benefits, on Saturday. Is anyone feeling
the pressure at all to get this thing wrapped up?
(01:03):
And I'll know too that congressional approval rating has plummeted
from twenty six percent, which is awful, to fifteen percent
in the past month. A fifteen percent approval rating. To
put that in perspective, the Cincinnati Bengals defense has an
eighteen percent approval rating.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
That's how bad it is.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Kevin Burton is a political analyst at Crosstown Consulting in
northern Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Kevin, welcome back. How are you? Thanks for having me, sloney,
appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Before we get into the national politics of this, I
want to put our local head on and I know
you isn't a keen observer of both sides of the
Ohio River. We have an election coming up in seven days.
Mayor aft Ted Pureval has fired but not fired Chief
Thiji Terry Thigi, the police chief. They're going to take
until the end of the year. They've hired Frost Brown,
Todd and Company to poke and prod and find out
(01:53):
why they fired her. If that makes any sense, that
that doesn't have to make sense because it's politics. I
suspect that Aftab will not pay a political price for this,
and he'll get reelected. But you wonder about members of council.
Somebody's gonna have to pay the price, and not just
Terry Thiji. I think would you agree or disagree?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
So yeah, I mean for as mayor Aftabs going to
win reelection, you you know, you have about as good
as chances getting a date with uh Plly Berry as
astab Pas is losing, like it's not gonna happen, He's
going to win. The real question is going to be
there's a lot of legacy family names on the ballot
this time. Uh you know, you have a Mallory, you
(02:33):
have a dree House, Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
You know, Lukta Cole is a well known name.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
So the question really is how many people vote, you know,
let's say six incumbents, two or three of the you know,
non incumbents, and is that enough to get someone like
a Chris Smitherman.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Or Liz Keating through the finish line.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
So you know, we can all speculate, but I would
say Chris Smitherman unless Heating are the two best to
break the stronghold of the Democratic All Council.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
And then you wonder who loses.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I think last time it was council Member Anna Oldby
is the one who I think she was just above
that the threshold, right, the nine papose person to get it.
And you wonder who it is going to be this
time for sure, But somebody's going to pay some price.
There's just too many people running and there's too much upheaval,
and namely with this crime issue that's polarizing everybody. Aftab
will be just fine. But at the same time, politically speaking,
(03:32):
in seven days and I think he's pretty much a
lock at this point. No such thing. You never know,
But I just don't see the demand by people who
live in Hamlin County, specifically Cincinnati's saying, yeah, we got
to get rid of him. I don't know if the
alternative is better or not. I know a lot of
people are lobbing, but I'm not sure that works in
all blue Hamlin, deep blue Hamlin County. But I would
(03:54):
think he's going to be on somewhat of a short
lease with the new council coming in and go correct.
Isn't that what he's going to have to pay politically,
is he's going to have to probably be a little
bit more in tune with what's happening and doesn't have
as much wiggle room as he used to.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Well, I mean, first off, the city of Cincinnati voted
roughly seventy five to twenty five percent for Harris versus Trump,
So you can suffer a lot of defections and still
be completely fine, you know. For Astab, I think the
bigger issue is going to be the posturing of council
candidates after this election, because he's term limited out for
(04:28):
mayor and what's what's the number one thing politicians do?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
They try to make themselves look better.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
So I think for the next you know, two four years,
you're going to see a different council because now the
stakes are you know, there's more at stake because all
of them want to be mayor. So I think you're
going to start seeing more pushback, more, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Different thought processes.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
So it'll be interesting to see does the dismissal of
Terry Thiji play with the electorate. You know, we tend
to be a little more newsy and news cycle. I
mean I can smell BS a mile away. Uh you
can too. I think most people listening have a good
sense of that as well, because you look at this
makes no sense whatever, But the typical voter doesn't pay
that close attention. Do the optics of her dismissal or
I guess her suspension while I investigate what is it
(05:14):
she did wrong? Which is completely backwards? Does that actually
play with voters?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Well, we will see in seven days. Historically, no, I mean,
you know, everyone always talked about how they're tired of
the status quo, you know, and all this. Ninety one
percent of the time, the better finance candidates win, ninety
percent of the time, you know, the incumbents win.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Right at the end of the day, it's up to
the voters.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
And time and time again, voters for just have apathy
and they just keep voting for whoever's in office. Yeah,
and no real change ever really happens.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Well, and then first of all, it's deep blue, so
it favors after pure vol has incombinated favors in. But
also the the money. He's over three hundred thousand dollars,
I believe Corey Bowman, the challenger has less than sixty.
So that kind of tells you what he's up against THEREA.
Let's shift to what's going on the federal government. Kevin Burton,
political analysts with crossdown consultings, upholster with the shutdown itself,
(06:14):
and now we're as I said at the beginning, I
think I hate you on to it's all theater. For
the first few weeks of the shutdown, it's nothing but theater.
Because eight percent of government is shut down. The other
ninety two percent is doing just fine. It's like letting
the receptionists go home early, turning the lights out in
the front office. But people are still working behind the scenes.
It's just you don't see the forward facing stuff like
parks and trash pickup and stuff like that. There are
(06:37):
forty two million people, forty two million families set to
lose food assistance with SNAP shutting down on Saturday because
there's no funding. I asked, who's feeling the pressure at all?
Fifty percent blame Republicans, forty three percent blame Democrats with independence.
It's about fifty one to thirty four Republican. And obviously
the reason why is because Republicans controlled the White House,
the Senate in the House, so that makes them the
(06:58):
more vulnerable party. But the numbers starting to shift relative
to people blaming Democrats with US.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
So yes, in the last three weeks it was substantially more.
It basically went from thirteen points now down to seven.
You know, so the Republicans have closed the gaps, but
at the end of the day, I don't know how
much lower it's going to go because they do control
both chamber, and you know, frankly, both parties are gambling
(07:27):
with forty two million lives, which I mean, I think
that's the bigger issue that we should be talking about.
That Just get the job done. Like you guys are elected,
you are still getting paid. But if you're trying to
fly with TSA or anything, it's a nightmare. And I
just think the American people just want it done. Just
get the deal done. That's what you're elected, right.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Democrats will say, well, we're getting some traction here because
you know, we're on the right side with healthcare. Americans
favor us and our plans with healthcare. Republicans really don't
have a plan. And we just had seven million people
will show up to attend a No Kings rally, whatever
the hell that was, that has no impact whatsoever for them.
To look at the No Kings rally go A million
people showed up this week in the protest. They all
(08:09):
protested Trump for different reasons.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah, you know, no, and sometimes when you're the loudest,
it doesn't mean anything. It's you know, it's an echo chamber.
The real question is how many new people did you get?
Because at the end of the day, Trump has figured
out that his model of it's fifty plus one, So
(08:34):
every single election is fifty percent of the vote plus
one more person. And he knows his basse, he knows
how to turn him out bigger than everything.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
And there is a lot of silent Trump voters.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
So you know, at the end of the day, Democrats
need to play the smart and frankly, you know, jakeem
Jeffries and Chuck Schumer have looked kind of like a
deer in a headlight. Regardless of what you thought of
Nancy Pelosi, she stood on she was a fighter, right,
Can you say the same about those two?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
No?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
No, The thing is if this shutdown extends in November,
we're closing in thirty five days is the longest period
we have with a shutdown. That's largely because of the
real cuts. We start to see the theaters at the
first few weeks. Now you're starting to see the real
results of the shutdown. People not getting food, and food
is instance. And like, if this extends into November and
(09:28):
we see the Obamacare premiums hit millions of Americans, which
party's better position to capitalize on that. You want to
say the Democrats, But with the leadership and lack of
direction they have, I don't think that's necessarily true to you.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
I would still favor the Democrats just because healthcare is
kind of their number one thing. And frankly, you just
said Obamacare. So if Obamacare goes up three you know,
three times under a president, you're going to be like, well, under.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Obama was this.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
But I just think it speaks more of just how
in the last twelve years you can't get anything done anymore.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
No, it's so polarizing.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
That, you know, frankly, both sides need to concede a
little bit and if it's good for eighty five percent
of the country, just get the deal done.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
And if you're complaining and you're part of the no
Kings movement, which I know, we have a king because
he just does what he wants with executive order, it's
because of what we're talking about. The Congress is so ineffective,
so gridlocks and dead luck that they you know, we certainly,
Joe Biden had his share of executive orders. Now Trump
has exceeded that for sure, but that that's the new reality.
Congress isn't doing their job. They're not legislating anymore. They're
(10:41):
just leaving good to the president and their guy via
executive order.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
And this is why we should have term limits in Congress.
I mean, frankly, you have people in there who's been
in all like their careers have been thirty plus years
in Congress.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Get out, you're too old, right, like sorry, Like I
just you know, it boggles my mind that we have.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Term limits for governors, we have term limits for presidents,
but heaven forbid, senators and representatives have terms now.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Pilots, truck drivers, there's all sorts of occupations in the
real world where you can't work past a certain age,
and there's nothing wrong with that. But I don't understand
how an eighty plus year old lawmaker is relevant. And
you know, you got to explain them how an iPhone
works before you can actually address the issues of legislating
what that looks like, and no idea whatsoever. They're completely clueless.
(11:39):
And those are the most senior people in leadership positions.
The Shoomer's the world. There's just so many of them
right now, and I think we can do better, and
term limits are certainly part of that. Kevin, regarding this,
at some point, do you think that there's going to
be cool or heads like, is it really going to
get to the fact that forty too many people won't
get snap benefits starting on Saturday? That's kind of like overplayed,
(12:01):
but that hits home for a lot of people, especially
with you know, go to the grocery store and seeing
like the cost of beef. You know, I'm nowhere certainly near,
thank god, receiving public assistance. I go to the store
and I see ground beef. I go, yeah, you know what,
I like ground beef. But I'm good I'm not paying
those kind of prices right now. That that's really got
to hit home for these lawmakers. Do you see this
(12:21):
thing ending before Saturday that they're going to come to
a conclusion And if so, let's get down the path
of what that looks like.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Well, and that's that's the billion dollar question.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
I mean, gambling with forty two million lives is a
risky proposition for both sides. I don't have the data
of where those forty two million.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
You know, voters are, but it's kind of like a kid.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
You know, when you have an exam, you're going to
push it off, push it off, push it off. Well,
you know, Friday is kind of the date you have
to get it done by, and if you don't, then
there's actual serious consequences. And this keeps going longer in November.
You know, the busiest time of the year to travel
is during Thanksgiving, so you're going to create even more
(13:07):
of a headache with TSA and the air traffic. So
to your point, starting Saturday is when you know it
really hits home.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
And we're seeing a fifteen percent approval rating. Fifteen percent
that has got to be close to an all time
low for Congress.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yet you know ninety percent of the incumbents will still win.
It is you know, it's the complete It's just amazing that,
you know, we all agree that Congress isn't effective, but
then you know everyone turns around and just rubber stamps
them again. And I think the interesting thing is, and
you're kind of seeing this with up in New York
(13:49):
with Mindani and that in a lot of ways, the
Democrats are kind of going through what Republicans did you
know ten years ago that they felt like, you know,
party apparatus has sailed them, and there's kind.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Of a revolt. You know, so like the neo liberals,
I want to be shocked if.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
He starts seeing maybe even Chuck Schumer and all these
older ones and get primaried because you know, because that's
exactly what Trump and you know, the Maga movement kind
of really did that, you know, simply they said that
we are tired of the status quo and you kind
of let us down the road and we've gotten nowhere.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Thomas Massy a great example of that where you are
in Kentucky. To get out of this mess, they'd have
to strike a deal to save face. And I guess
if we're looking at the Democrats are talking about, you know,
we've got seven million Americans losing their healthcare. We're trying
to prevent that. We we forced Republicans to back down
from gutting Obamacare, and this is what we're fighting for,
(14:51):
Republicans to say, you know, we want a targeted relief,
we don't want more socialism, socialist expansion. We save hundreds
of billions of dollars, uh with you know, but by
gutting the by stopping this and restored responsible governance and
ended democratic obstruction cent So that's what both sides will say.
Which is the winning messaging?
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I mean, on paper, it should be the Democrats, but
they've played everything wrong against Trump for the last decade.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
However, So you know, if I was.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
The Democrats right now, I would say, aren't we raking
in billions of dollars in tariffs? And then that helped
pay for this? But they're incompetent. Their leadership is incompetent.
So if you ask me, I think Republicans will come
out of this probably, you know, absolutely, fine.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah, I would think so.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
It's just because the idea is and I think most
people realize, like, well, we're subsidizing something. Okay, great, and
I need it.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
I need it today.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I don't care it's going to bankrupt the country because
we're just borrowing more money. It's way too ex healthcare
is way too expensive. We're subsidizing that. That's other people's
tax money that you're subsidized with. But you know, if
you can't afford to get cold or your fear that,
you know, my chronic illness is going to come back,
And I can't get coverage, and I'm going to fall
between the quack cracks and what happens. Everything I work
for is is gone.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Right.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I get the urgency, that's a different matter entirely, and
I could see where both sides everything, but but yeah,
I think they just come to a conclusion. Go listen,
this has been too you know, if you get the
speakers together, the length and the pain of the shutdown,
it's been too long. It's probably we're gonna we're gonna
do something for thirty day, seven weeks, whatever it is.
We've proved our point. It's time to govern at some point.
Somebody's got to do that, or both sides got to
(16:30):
do that, don't they.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
He would think, So go to your job. Everyone else
has to do their job.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
I mean they're still collecting paychecks, so you know, it's.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
The rule for the but not for me. And that's
just the story of our Congress.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Where they can do insider training, where they can basically
do whatever they want and not actually have consequences.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
And yeah, I mean they need to get to work.
I know that today.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
And Ohio, there a meaning about the constitutional convention of
all things, which is a whole political you know a
whole different matter entirely, but about getting control and our
arms back around our government that they work for us. Uh.
You know you talk about no kings, but that would
apply to Congress as well based on what you just said.
Kevin Burton is with Crosstown Consulting. He's a political Anamson
polster in northern Kentucky. Kevin, thanks to the inside is
(17:21):
always good stuff. Thank you, Flney, appreciate it. By the way,
real quick, what if you're going to put odds on
this thing as a political guy, the odds of this
thing ending, the shutdown ending by Saturday is what what
would you put money on?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I would say sixty five seventy percent?
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Okay, so seven out of ten chance that this thing
is done by Saturday, they fix it.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I just think that you know, there's elections, you know,
in a week from now, so there's real consequences, and
you know you're gambling with forty two million lives.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
I think both sides will blank. You just have to.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
The optics on that are terrible. Kevin, all the best,
Thanks again, brother, Yeah, I appreciate you. Let's get a
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So hang type, be patient, and it is what it is.
So we jump in this morning with news a governor
a shutdown of course, approaching the thirty day mark, and
it's starting to become a growing liability for both the
Democrats and Republicans. So Republicans passed the Continuing Resolution, which
is basically kicking the can down the road to fund government.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
We do.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
That's all we do now is continuing resolutions and then
address it later on. And the threat of shutting the
government will happen in another seven weeks. So Democrats have
blocked it. They want enhanced Obamacare subsidies and want Medicaid funding,
and now with forty two million people set to lose
flo's assistance with snap benefits, on Saturday. Is anyone feeling
the pressure at all to get this thing wrapped up?
(01:03):
And I'll know too that congressional approval rating has plummeted
from twenty six percent, which is awful, to fifteen percent
in the past month. A fifteen percent approval rating. To
put that in perspective, the Cincinnati Bengals defense has an
eighteen percent approval rating.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
That's how bad it is.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Kevin Burton is a political analyst at Crosstown Consulting in
northern Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Kevin, welcome back. How are you? Thanks for having me, sloney,
appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Before we get into the national politics of this, I
want to put our local head on and I know
you isn't a keen observer of both sides of the
Ohio River. We have an election coming up in seven days.
Mayor aft Ted Pureval has fired but not fired Chief
Thiji Terry Thigi, the police chief. They're going to take
until the end of the year. They've hired Frost Brown,
Todd and Company to poke and prod and find out
(01:53):
why they fired her. If that makes any sense, that
that doesn't have to make sense because it's politics. I
suspect that Aftab will not pay a political price for this,
and he'll get reelected. But you wonder about members of council.
Somebody's gonna have to pay the price, and not just
Terry Thiji. I think would you agree or disagree?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
So yeah, I mean for as mayor Aftabs going to
win reelection, you you know, you have about as good
as chances getting a date with uh Plly Berry as
astab Pas is losing, like it's not gonna happen, He's
going to win. The real question is going to be
there's a lot of legacy family names on the ballot
this time. Uh you know, you have a Mallory, you
(02:33):
have a dree House, Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
You know, Lukta Cole is a well known name.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
So the question really is how many people vote, you know,
let's say six incumbents, two or three of the you know,
non incumbents, and is that enough to get someone like
a Chris Smitherman.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Or Liz Keating through the finish line.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
So you know, we can all speculate, but I would
say Chris Smitherman unless Heating are the two best to
break the stronghold of the Democratic All Council.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
And then you wonder who loses.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I think last time it was council Member Anna Oldby
is the one who I think she was just above
that the threshold, right, the nine papose person to get it.
And you wonder who it is going to be this
time for sure, But somebody's going to pay some price.
There's just too many people running and there's too much upheaval,
and namely with this crime issue that's polarizing everybody. Aftab
will be just fine. But at the same time, politically speaking,
(03:32):
in seven days and I think he's pretty much a
lock at this point. No such thing. You never know,
But I just don't see the demand by people who
live in Hamlin County, specifically Cincinnati's saying, yeah, we got
to get rid of him. I don't know if the
alternative is better or not. I know a lot of
people are lobbing, but I'm not sure that works in
all blue Hamlin, deep blue Hamlin County. But I would
(03:54):
think he's going to be on somewhat of a short
lease with the new council coming in and go correct.
Isn't that what he's going to have to pay politically,
is he's going to have to probably be a little
bit more in tune with what's happening and doesn't have
as much wiggle room as he used to.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Well, I mean, first off, the city of Cincinnati voted
roughly seventy five to twenty five percent for Harris versus Trump,
So you can suffer a lot of defections and still
be completely fine, you know. For Astab, I think the
bigger issue is going to be the posturing of council
candidates after this election, because he's term limited out for
(04:28):
mayor and what's what's the number one thing politicians do?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
They try to make themselves look better.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
So I think for the next you know, two four years,
you're going to see a different council because now the
stakes are you know, there's more at stake because all
of them want to be mayor. So I think you're
going to start seeing more pushback, more, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Different thought processes.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
So it'll be interesting to see does the dismissal of
Terry Thiji play with the electorate. You know, we tend
to be a little more newsy and news cycle. I
mean I can smell BS a mile away. Uh you
can too. I think most people listening have a good
sense of that as well, because you look at this
makes no sense whatever, But the typical voter doesn't pay
that close attention. Do the optics of her dismissal or
I guess her suspension while I investigate what is it
(05:14):
she did wrong? Which is completely backwards? Does that actually
play with voters?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Well, we will see in seven days. Historically, no, I mean,
you know, everyone always talked about how they're tired of
the status quo, you know, and all this. Ninety one
percent of the time, the better finance candidates win, ninety
percent of the time, you know, the incumbents win.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Right at the end of the day, it's up to
the voters.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
And time and time again, voters for just have apathy
and they just keep voting for whoever's in office. Yeah,
and no real change ever really happens.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Well, and then first of all, it's deep blue, so
it favors after pure vol has incombinated favors in. But
also the the money. He's over three hundred thousand dollars,
I believe Corey Bowman, the challenger has less than sixty.
So that kind of tells you what he's up against THEREA.
Let's shift to what's going on the federal government. Kevin Burton,
political analysts with crossdown consultings, upholster with the shutdown itself,
(06:14):
and now we're as I said at the beginning, I
think I hate you on to it's all theater. For
the first few weeks of the shutdown, it's nothing but theater.
Because eight percent of government is shut down. The other
ninety two percent is doing just fine. It's like letting
the receptionists go home early, turning the lights out in
the front office. But people are still working behind the scenes.
It's just you don't see the forward facing stuff like
parks and trash pickup and stuff like that. There are
(06:37):
forty two million people, forty two million families set to
lose food assistance with SNAP shutting down on Saturday because
there's no funding. I asked, who's feeling the pressure at all?
Fifty percent blame Republicans, forty three percent blame Democrats with independence.
It's about fifty one to thirty four Republican. And obviously
the reason why is because Republicans controlled the White House,
the Senate in the House, so that makes them the
(06:58):
more vulnerable party. But the numbers starting to shift relative
to people blaming Democrats with US.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
So yes, in the last three weeks it was substantially more.
It basically went from thirteen points now down to seven.
You know, so the Republicans have closed the gaps, but
at the end of the day, I don't know how
much lower it's going to go because they do control
both chamber, and you know, frankly, both parties are gambling
(07:27):
with forty two million lives, which I mean, I think
that's the bigger issue that we should be talking about.
That Just get the job done. Like you guys are elected,
you are still getting paid. But if you're trying to
fly with TSA or anything, it's a nightmare. And I
just think the American people just want it done. Just
get the deal done. That's what you're elected, right.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Democrats will say, well, we're getting some traction here because
you know, we're on the right side with healthcare. Americans
favor us and our plans with healthcare. Republicans really don't
have a plan. And we just had seven million people
will show up to attend a No Kings rally, whatever
the hell that was, that has no impact whatsoever for them.
To look at the No Kings rally go A million
people showed up this week in the protest. They all
(08:09):
protested Trump for different reasons.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah, you know, no, and sometimes when you're the loudest,
it doesn't mean anything. It's you know, it's an echo chamber.
The real question is how many new people did you get?
Because at the end of the day, Trump has figured
out that his model of it's fifty plus one, So
(08:34):
every single election is fifty percent of the vote plus
one more person. And he knows his basse, he knows
how to turn him out bigger than everything.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
And there is a lot of silent Trump voters.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
So you know, at the end of the day, Democrats
need to play the smart and frankly, you know, jakeem
Jeffries and Chuck Schumer have looked kind of like a
deer in a headlight. Regardless of what you thought of
Nancy Pelosi, she stood on she was a fighter, right,
Can you say the same about those two?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
No?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
No, The thing is if this shutdown extends in November,
we're closing in thirty five days is the longest period
we have with a shutdown. That's largely because of the
real cuts. We start to see the theaters at the
first few weeks. Now you're starting to see the real
results of the shutdown. People not getting food, and food
is instance. And like, if this extends into November and
(09:28):
we see the Obamacare premiums hit millions of Americans, which
party's better position to capitalize on that. You want to
say the Democrats, But with the leadership and lack of
direction they have, I don't think that's necessarily true to you.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
I would still favor the Democrats just because healthcare is
kind of their number one thing. And frankly, you just
said Obamacare. So if Obamacare goes up three you know,
three times under a president, you're going to be like, well, under.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Obama was this.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
But I just think it speaks more of just how
in the last twelve years you can't get anything done anymore.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
No, it's so polarizing.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
That, you know, frankly, both sides need to concede a
little bit and if it's good for eighty five percent
of the country, just get the deal done.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
And if you're complaining and you're part of the no
Kings movement, which I know, we have a king because
he just does what he wants with executive order, it's
because of what we're talking about. The Congress is so ineffective,
so gridlocks and dead luck that they you know, we certainly,
Joe Biden had his share of executive orders. Now Trump
has exceeded that for sure, but that that's the new reality.
Congress isn't doing their job. They're not legislating anymore. They're
(10:41):
just leaving good to the president and their guy via
executive order.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
And this is why we should have term limits in Congress.
I mean, frankly, you have people in there who's been
in all like their careers have been thirty plus years
in Congress.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Get out, you're too old, right, like sorry, Like I
just you know, it boggles my mind that we have.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Term limits for governors, we have term limits for presidents,
but heaven forbid, senators and representatives have terms now.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Pilots, truck drivers, there's all sorts of occupations in the
real world where you can't work past a certain age,
and there's nothing wrong with that. But I don't understand
how an eighty plus year old lawmaker is relevant. And
you know, you got to explain them how an iPhone
works before you can actually address the issues of legislating
what that looks like, and no idea whatsoever. They're completely clueless.
(11:39):
And those are the most senior people in leadership positions.
The Shoomer's the world. There's just so many of them
right now, and I think we can do better, and
term limits are certainly part of that. Kevin, regarding this,
at some point, do you think that there's going to
be cool or heads like, is it really going to
get to the fact that forty too many people won't
get snap benefits starting on Saturday? That's kind of like overplayed,
(12:01):
but that hits home for a lot of people, especially
with you know, go to the grocery store and seeing
like the cost of beef. You know, I'm nowhere certainly near,
thank god, receiving public assistance. I go to the store
and I see ground beef. I go, yeah, you know what,
I like ground beef. But I'm good I'm not paying
those kind of prices right now. That that's really got
to hit home for these lawmakers. Do you see this
(12:21):
thing ending before Saturday that they're going to come to
a conclusion And if so, let's get down the path
of what that looks like.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Well, and that's that's the billion dollar question.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
I mean, gambling with forty two million lives is a
risky proposition for both sides. I don't have the data
of where those forty two million.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
You know, voters are, but it's kind of like a kid.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
You know, when you have an exam, you're going to
push it off, push it off, push it off. Well,
you know, Friday is kind of the date you have
to get it done by, and if you don't, then
there's actual serious consequences. And this keeps going longer in November.
You know, the busiest time of the year to travel
is during Thanksgiving, so you're going to create even more
(13:07):
of a headache with TSA and the air traffic. So
to your point, starting Saturday is when you know it
really hits home.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
And we're seeing a fifteen percent approval rating. Fifteen percent
that has got to be close to an all time
low for Congress.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yet you know ninety percent of the incumbents will still win.
It is you know, it's the complete It's just amazing that,
you know, we all agree that Congress isn't effective, but
then you know everyone turns around and just rubber stamps
them again. And I think the interesting thing is, and
you're kind of seeing this with up in New York
(13:49):
with Mindani and that in a lot of ways, the
Democrats are kind of going through what Republicans did you
know ten years ago that they felt like, you know,
party apparatus has sailed them, and there's kind.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Of a revolt. You know, so like the neo liberals,
I want to be shocked if.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
He starts seeing maybe even Chuck Schumer and all these
older ones and get primaried because you know, because that's
exactly what Trump and you know, the Maga movement kind
of really did that, you know, simply they said that
we are tired of the status quo and you kind
of let us down the road and we've gotten nowhere.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Thomas Massy a great example of that where you are
in Kentucky. To get out of this mess, they'd have
to strike a deal to save face. And I guess
if we're looking at the Democrats are talking about, you know,
we've got seven million Americans losing their healthcare. We're trying
to prevent that. We we forced Republicans to back down
from gutting Obamacare, and this is what we're fighting for,
(14:51):
Republicans to say, you know, we want a targeted relief,
we don't want more socialism, socialist expansion. We save hundreds
of billions of dollars, uh with you know, but by
gutting the by stopping this and restored responsible governance and
ended democratic obstruction cent So that's what both sides will say.
Which is the winning messaging?
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I mean, on paper, it should be the Democrats, but
they've played everything wrong against Trump for the last decade.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
However, So you know, if I was.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
The Democrats right now, I would say, aren't we raking
in billions of dollars in tariffs? And then that helped
pay for this? But they're incompetent. Their leadership is incompetent.
So if you ask me, I think Republicans will come
out of this probably, you know, absolutely, fine.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah, I would think so.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
It's just because the idea is and I think most
people realize, like, well, we're subsidizing something. Okay, great, and
I need it.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
I need it today.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I don't care it's going to bankrupt the country because
we're just borrowing more money. It's way too ex healthcare
is way too expensive. We're subsidizing that. That's other people's
tax money that you're subsidized with. But you know, if
you can't afford to get cold or your fear that,
you know, my chronic illness is going to come back,
And I can't get coverage, and I'm going to fall
between the quack cracks and what happens. Everything I work
for is is gone.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Right.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I get the urgency, that's a different matter entirely, and
I could see where both sides everything, but but yeah,
I think they just come to a conclusion. Go listen,
this has been too you know, if you get the
speakers together, the length and the pain of the shutdown,
it's been too long. It's probably we're gonna we're gonna
do something for thirty day, seven weeks, whatever it is.
We've proved our point. It's time to govern at some point.
Somebody's got to do that, or both sides got to
(16:30):
do that, don't they.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
He would think, So go to your job. Everyone else
has to do their job.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
I mean they're still collecting paychecks, so you know, it's.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
The rule for the but not for me. And that's
just the story of our Congress.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Where they can do insider training, where they can basically
do whatever they want and not actually have consequences.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
And yeah, I mean they need to get to work.
I know that today.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
And Ohio, there a meaning about the constitutional convention of
all things, which is a whole political you know a
whole different matter entirely, but about getting control and our
arms back around our government that they work for us. Uh.
You know you talk about no kings, but that would
apply to Congress as well based on what you just said.
Kevin Burton is with Crosstown Consulting. He's a political Anamson
polster in northern Kentucky. Kevin, thanks to the inside is
(17:21):
always good stuff. Thank you, Flney, appreciate it. By the way,
real quick, what if you're going to put odds on
this thing as a political guy, the odds of this
thing ending, the shutdown ending by Saturday is what what
would you put money on?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I would say sixty five seventy percent?
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Okay, so seven out of ten chance that this thing
is done by Saturday, they fix it.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I just think that you know, there's elections, you know,
in a week from now, so there's real consequences, and
you know you're gambling with forty two million lives.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
I think both sides will blank. You just have to.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
The optics on that are terrible. Kevin, all the best,
Thanks again, brother, Yeah, I appreciate you. Let's get a
time out in we got a news update. Traffic is
an absolute disaster still in areas. Chuckle have an update
for you a real time on that one as well,
and it's going to just continue to be wet here
for the next couple of days. Weekend for the little
trick or Treat is looking pretty good though full details
in that in news in just about four here, and
(18:22):
when we return, a case has been made with an
untimely death. As far as talk about bodily autonomy, I'm
going to make the case for being allowed to sell
your organs, and it has something to do with the
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