12-4-25 Thursday Night Sterling

Sterling fills in for Dan Carroll. He talks Crosstown Shootout with Terry Nelson, AI privacy concerns with Dave Hatter, and Dev Shapiro of GottaDeal.com talks holiday deals.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Well, the cold is here. We've had the snow, people
still apparently not knowing how to drive in it. Stores
of something like eight different people. And this is not
funny over these last couple of days, as we've had
some snow ended up plowing into some snow plows in
and around Ohio. At least according to Odd extra time
when the snow comes and we may see more sooner

(00:23):
than later, the al Nina in what we're dealing with
in some frigid cold. I guess it's time. The Christmas
season is upon us. How you doing? It's Sterling stepping
in normally. Dan Carol will be here about this time
and I'm back in my normal time Friday Saturday afternoon
as well. My name is Sterling. Mister Joe Waddell producing
updated news. About twenty one minutes from now. Was Sean

(00:45):
Gallagher up in on what's going on? Terry Nelson going
to join us busy guy getting ready for Crosstown shootout.
You just heard him Coach Wes Miller and Dan Horde
and the coach a show talking about bearcats, musketeers, the history,
the energy, the angst, the excitement, everything that goes into it.

(01:06):
And they've been getting it on for a long long time,
and we'll pick his brain coming up and after the
nine thirty report, that's Terry Nelson gonna join me. Dave
had Or, cybersecurity expert from seven hundred wlub, you gonna
join us also after ten o'clock talk about AI privacy,
new gear, gadgets, security and all the stuff that goes

(01:28):
with that, and how all this new technology can help
make our lives simpler. It's not just maybe about scaring
us or getting into our business or everything else. And
to speaking of the holidays, Godadal dot Com, Dev Shapiro
have him unusually this time of year. Well, the bells
are ringing, so we'll get to Dev after eleven o'clock
talking about where the deals are the best deals now

(01:51):
that we are in I guess cyber Week, which used
to be a cyber Monday, which came after the Black Friday,
And if you are of a certain age you can
remember it used to be people would be eagerly getting
the Sunday Inquirer and every other publication they can, looking
for leaked ads and everything else to be able to
figure out exactly where the best opportunity was to save

(02:12):
money and get whatever it is that you want for
you and yours over the holidays. Times have changed, But
Dev Shapiro is all over like a two ton heavy thing.
So we'll pick his brain about that soon enough. I
want to give you a chance to sound off. I
find that this new story that there's a lot of
ways to look at this. My entire life has been

(02:37):
an engagement of war in this country on drugs. The
war on drugs. In fact, if you're a kid of
the eighties coming up depending and subsequently, you remember those
ads where they'd say, this is your brain, this is
your brain on drugs, and then they crack an egg
into a hot skillet and you see it sizzle up,

(02:58):
and they go, oh, my god, that's gonna happen to
what's inside my head if I get on dope. Don't
smoke the dope, bluie. But you know, the things or
not as they once were, and so on. So this
war on drugs is continued. We're in a period of
time we've dealt with the opioid crisis. There's ventanyl issues
and all sorts of problems that people have to sort

(03:20):
of navigate. People still digging out of what was the
oxy codone problem and everything else after litigation and thousands
and thousands and thousands of people dying. Now we are
blowing boats out of the water in the Caribbean and
elsewhere that are allegedly filled with cocaine or fentanyl or

(03:40):
whatever else that apparently is destined for our shores and
our communities, because, let's be honest, Americans like to get high,
Americans like to get drunk. They like to get effed
up in a whole lot of different ways. And maybe
we ought to start working on that hunger that need
to somehow, you know, the sab to fix that itch

(04:03):
that scratch for numbing ourselves and maybe possibly also whatever
psychological problem going on with it where we want to
self medicate. That being set, I have a question over
the last couple of days with higher ups at the
Pentagon in private meetings showing videos to lawmakers, there is

(04:23):
apparently a split. Some lawmakers are saying, hey, blowing those
boats out of the water, taking another shot with more
of our very expensive, high tech and very precise weapons
to finish off the job of one of those boats.
As this whole engagement started, and so he was, oh,
it's a war crime. Well, I don't even though they've

(04:44):
called it the War on drugs. There is no official
like declaration of war that I know of, and I
would imagine that anyone who's looking for a pleasure boat cruise,
or if you're in anywhere in those areas looking to
go fishing or scuba diving, you might want to think
twice and look up in the and see exactly where
US forces are. But my question is this, President Trump

(05:05):
says he's fine with releasing the video for all of
us to see to make up our own minds. Here's
what I wonder, though, because you see what we have
seen in the report has been that there was apparently
two survivors on that boat, or at least off the boat,
that were in the water trying to somehow hold on
to the wreckage at sea, whether to get on and

(05:26):
call for help or get on and say, hey, save
the dope. We don't want the you know, drug lords
to come after our families or whatever else. I don't
know about the idea of war crime, and I don't
think that the family members of those people who lost
their lives are worried about war crimes, are trying to
figure out what happened to their people. But what I
want to know is this, do you want to see

(05:46):
the video one more clearly without edits and without fuzzing
over and blocking out the carnage that took place at
the hand of our military looking to make us safe
in the order so that they were following.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Two.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Do you have a problem because I've heard so many discussions.
I just had an odd discussion in the cold walking
my dog with the neighbor. This was yesterday afternoon before
he came in for the Christmas party, and he's telling me.
He says, he thinks it's absolutely horrible and everything and
it's inexcusable and everything is that, Well, we don't know
what we don't know, And overall I'm just wondering. Look around,

(06:28):
you know the history of this country. You see the
issue of drug added people. Maybe there are drugs on
these boats that have been blown up. I would think
if you're in the business of transporting drugs, you might
want to reevaluate. If you're listening on the iHeartRadio app
someplace in that part of the world, if you hadn't
already figured out that it's not a good idea, well
now you probably know. Do you have a problem with

(06:51):
us blowing these boats out of the water. Should they?
I mean, I don't know who they're going to communicate
with that they've identified party A, Party B. However, many
on those boats with said drugs to somehow warm them.
But if it's not our waters, if it's not our shores.
We've talked about taking the fight to terrorists elsewhere. Is

(07:14):
this a terrorist endeavor? Do we trust that these people
are in fact, you know, drug dealers or traffickers for
one of a better way to describe it. More trafficker,
I guess than dealer. Dealer may be selling it, transporting
it would be the trafficker in some fashion, right, And
then whoever hear stateside distributes and so on five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven,

(07:36):
eight hundred, the big one, pick up the phone, give
it the finger. You can talk back the iHeartRadio app.
I have to say, if it's a legit threat, that's fine,
but you've got to go after also. And this is
where there's some hypocrisy. It's all about the war on drugs,
and they say we're under siege, but they have cut

(07:56):
programs to help those that are drug addled or the addicted.
They've closed some of these facilities already that were government
tax dollars that were going in to try to keep
these people going in a healthy, more positive direction. There's
no question that something needs to be done about the

(08:18):
hunger for the high I don't know what else to
say about it in that regard, but that comes from
schooling and from the home and whatever else it is
to give people, you know, an understanding of just say no,
which a lot of people thought was a joke, but
it worked for some. But desperation and sadness and mental

(08:39):
health issues and not getting care that they need, and
you know, we like to drink, a lot of people
like to numb themselves in a whole lot of different ways.
And until that hunger in that market where people are
willing to cough up cash money for said drugs and stuff,
people are going to supply it, regardless whether it's farmaceutical

(09:00):
companies domestically or elsewhere bringing it here legally and then
having it used and abused in some fashion, or whether
it's drug dealers and manufacturers who couldn't care less that
it's just a commodity, no different than oranges or coffee
or oil. It just happens to be that substance that
you know people are looking forward to alter themselves. I

(09:22):
want to know what you think, guys. I mean, I say,
if you can handle your drugs responsibly, do your drugs.
Not A lot of people are able to necessarily handle
their drugs for too long in a way that doesn't
cause harm to others and those around them. But I'm
in the mindset simply of freedom of choice and liberty

(09:42):
and doing what you want until you start acting out
and hurting others around you, regardless of it being a
smart choice or not. It should be up to you
and me and the people around us to do that.
And as far as you know, blowing up the people
that are tracked picking these drugs, it probably in some

(10:03):
ways looks better if they're here or closer to our
shores inbound, rather than closer to the shores they're leaving.
Because the question that everyone has who has doubts about it,
as are these really drug vessels? And imagine if someone
was blowing Americans out of the water headed towards somewhere

(10:28):
in the Bahamas or somewhere down further Central South America
or whatever it is, and they were doing it close
to our waters in the international waters, but it's still
just the same. My guess is that a lot of
us would have a different view as to the aggressive
nature of these operations, even though we want to stop

(10:50):
the flow of the abuse of drugs and the harm
that it causes. Am I crazy? Am I insane? Am
I making sense? I want to know what you think
because we don't all know everything that maybe some of
us would like to know about this, and that leads
me to agreeing with President Trump. Put the video out
for all of us to see, and then go from there.

(11:12):
Five point three seven four nine, seven thousand, eight hundred
The Big One, Your chance to get interactive quick break
come back later on dev Shapiro godadeal dot com about
saving some cash holiday shopping still yet to be done.
Dave Hatter Cyborg Security about privacy, new gear, gadgets and productivity.
And Terry Nelson basketball Bearcat Gonna join us tak Crosstown

(11:34):
shootout Musketeers Bearcats tomorrow night at Sentas on the campus
of Xavier. And you'll hear it right here on seven
hundred WLW join us in first morning forecast on the
Big One. It's cold, feels like winter because it is, uh, well,
I don't know it's actually it's not officially winter yet,
I don't believe, but it's coming, you know, and the
sooner than later, the days we'll start getting longer. In

(11:56):
the meantime, more frigid, a serious so called polar vortex.
Cold is coming down to twenty tonight, thirty three Tomorrow,
mid thirties on Saturday, close to forty on Sunday. Bengals
are on the road, so most of us be inside
watching the who day. It's twenty five right now, your
severe weather station seven hundred w WELW Sterling hanging out.
Glad you're here. Fine. Thursday night back Tomorrow night, Saturday afternoon.

(12:18):
My normal spots, Dan Carroll, it was on earlier. So
that's why I'm doing this asking you about these drug
boats that getting blown up by our US military. People
are very upset, some of them wanting to I don't
know if they want documentation. They want to see pictures
of the cocaine or the fentanyl or whatever else. More
clearly reports now in the Pacific and other four people killed.

(12:41):
It's come out with more video in the Eastern Pacific
intelligence confirming that this vessel's carrying illicit narcotics. Turns transiting
along known NARCO trafficking route in the Eastern Pacific five
three seven, four nine eight hundred The big one. I mean,
people like, well, they were climbing on the boat, or
you know, this first attack on the boat, and people

(13:02):
are very upset saying, well, what were they gonna do?
All I know is if I had been on that boat,
I would I you're at sea, if you ever been
out at sea, even on the Great Lakes, if you're
far enough away and something bad happens, whether it's hell
fire from a missile brought from the US or a
bad storm, my guess is if you are trying to survive,

(13:24):
you might try to cling onto that boat. Neighbor was
telling me he thought it was egregious, that it was
horrible that they shouldn't have gone after him. They've since
said in their private hearing and questioning that there was
no so called kill order. But I mean, if you're
gonna blow stuff up and try to get the enemy someplace,
I would think you want to finish the job. The
question is is this the right job and the right
way to go about it? I suppose where do you

(13:46):
fall on this five three seven, four nine eight hundred
the Big One first, David read up. After that, we'll
try to get Richard and Dayton as well before the
nine thirty report, and then Terry Nelson joins us talking
a Crosstown shootout on the Big One tomorrow night at Sintas,
Cats and Musketeers getting it on. David, appreciate the holding
man what you have.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yeah, it's disheartening, disappointing to see Trump going down this
path after he ran so fervently in twenty fifteen twenty
sixteen against the lies of Iraqi WMDs that Bush pushes
down because it's basically the same thing. This is Trump
dep stuff that it's not really real.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
The narcotics cartel that.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
They claim in Venezuela doesn't exist.

Speaker 5 (14:31):
It's not real.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
And any kind of narcotics that Venezuela is moving, if
not coming to the United States, they're kind of known
to maybe move as a transit point to move narcotics
to Europe. And there's no you know, Venezuelan coastline in
the eastern Pacific. You know, that's that's Colombia, all right.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
We know where this stuff's coming from.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
It's coming from Colombia through Central America and Mexico.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
And so Trump is doing the Gulf.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Of Tonkin just like happened in Vietnam. He's doing Iraqi, WMD's,
He's doing everything that he ran against.

Speaker 5 (15:06):
And so it's.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Heartbreaking to see it because he's got Marco Rubio in
as his sex k of State and he's part of the.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
You know, the Cuban.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Community there in Miami, and they have an agenda right.

Speaker 5 (15:21):
Which is against and I love it.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
I look forward to nothing about, you know, killing socialists
and communists and armed conflict. But we got to do
it the right way, and lying and being fake and
phony like the bushes is not the right way and
it's a disgrace to America.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
I appreciate the call, David, thank you. I mean, there's
a lot to wagh through there, and we're against the
long time read Richard others. My my management time was poor.
Good thing. This is not like a football game. We're
trying to win before the bell in the final whistle,
nine third reports straight away. We'll try to get you
guys on the other side sooner than later. Also, we
got to Terry Nelson talking basketball Crosstown Shootout Musketeers and

(16:00):
those basketball Bearcats at Sentas this time looking to get
it on Tomorrow night after the news, we'll talk to Terry.
Seven hundred WLW. Glad you're a long fine Thursday night, Sterling,
seven hundred WLW. Tomorrow night, seven thirty Centas Center, It's
happening again. The ninety third time University Cincinnati basketball Bearcats

(16:24):
Xavier Musketeers. Right here, seven hundred WLW, A former Bearcat
on the hardwood, a Final four basketball Bearcat does TV stuff.
You're hear him with Dan Horde. Heard him earlier with
Dan and of course Wes Miller and that coaches show.

Speaker 5 (16:40):
We own.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Seven hundred WLW. Terry, welcome back. I appreciate you making time.
I know you're sort of like doing two things on
the same evening, and I appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (16:48):
Sterling, I was just finishing my belt kool aid, you know,
I had to have that red.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Why that's all right. I'm easier to deal with after
a couple I've been told, so it's all.

Speaker 5 (16:57):
Right, Montgomery and is really good. Thank you, Tom Gregory.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Absolutely I am. Now I'm salivating thinking about like some
chicken and chips and maybe a half slab, but that's fine.
I'm here in a room with a window, always blackened scallops.

Speaker 5 (17:12):
Blackened scallops over over some caesar salad and a sweet potato.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
See that's healthy, that's good, that's balance. You got all those. Yeah,
all right, And I have one more question because we
just got finished before we get to like game stuff,
because you mentioned it about the sweet potato. I just
had this argument sweet potato pie or pumpkin pie when
you think about Thanksgiving.

Speaker 5 (17:36):
Oh, I'm not one that always has to have an
either or. If you put both of them out there,
they're both going to be eaten.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
All right, I'm with you. I'm in the same boat
because that's the answer I have. Give me both, and
I'm fine. Just give me a spoon and.

Speaker 5 (17:50):
A coupe and people will ostracize you. They look at
you like you're crazy, what fucking bot?

Speaker 1 (17:55):
That's true, that's true.

Speaker 5 (17:57):
Give me long as you get merkle up or whipped cream,
whatever it is. He'spraaying on top. I'm good.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Absolutely, you said that about ostracizing. It his flashback to
being a tiny sterling. So I remember that, told you.
All right, So let's I want to start here because
and we talked about a little bit. I guess it
was last year leading up to this game. The game
has changed the business of the game. Whether it's my
neighbor's teenagers who were keeping track of this stuff way

(18:26):
way closer than I remember doing at their age because
they're middle schoolers and so forth. As far as guys
being transient and moving around, not here for a full
four necessarily, how does that change the passion the understanding
of such a rivalry. When we're talking about the ninety
third meeting of Bearcats and Musketeers.

Speaker 5 (18:49):
They don't know, the coast doesn't know. You know, you
got two. Coach West is the fifty years he kind
of knows now. He had no idea coming into it.
Richard Patino, there's much film as he looks at he'll
look at the intensity, he'll look at some of the
stuff that Sean Miller did. He'll look at different scenarios.
But you don't You never know until you walk into

(19:10):
that environment. It's just a different environment. I don't care
what the records are. You throw the records out, throw
the rankings out, None of that ever matters. It's always
about that time in that particular place and who shows
up that day. Because sometimes the team with the with
the with the best records doesn't play the best. They
come into the game. Sometimes they're low cocky. Sometimes they'll

(19:32):
be like, you know, we got this. We can a
due what we've always done and get the same results.
But then there's the underdog, whoever that is in the series.
It's like, no, we're gonna, you know, be extra careful
in our box offs, We're gonna make sharp passes. We're
gonna you know, we may go down, but we're gonna
fight back. Like, there's different factors that go into the
Crosstown shootout. And as much as coaches like to say

(19:54):
it's just another game, they know they're lying to their teeth.
They know the pack to this game. It's like Ohio State,
Michigan and football. You can win the national championship, but
people want to know did you beat Michigan? Did you
beat Ohio State? That's all they care about. And if
you in this game. As much as the fans for
Cincinnati on their side, they're grumpy and grumbling about, you know,

(20:18):
how they played thus far this season, if they win
against Xavier all as well.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Terry Nelson is, of course, one of the voices of
your basketball bearcats on the Big One. Of course. He
also and I want to make sure this is still accurate.
Executive director C Club working to deal with the Letterman
and those letter winners sort of a coming and reconnecting you.

Speaker 5 (20:41):
They stripped me up my powers. I'm no longer doing that.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
Oh no, okay, so I have old information. I am
sorry that they say you stripped. They stripped you. That's
a whole other conversation. So I don't even know like
they took it. I was like, you didn't give it back,
they took it. It sounds bad. So I don't know
if I'm not trying to go into a bad area.
So let's just leave that.

Speaker 6 (21:00):
Well.

Speaker 5 (21:01):
They released me of my duties to hire another fundraiser, okay.
And the beautiful momentum that we had that I was
building with former athletes and doing parties and collecting information
and all that. They're still trying to do it. But
there's nobody like Terry.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
No, that's true. Oh no, I agree, one hundred percent.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
All right.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
So I was just looking at these things. I was
trying to give you your props. So I apologize. I
just scratched that right off the list. But he did
it in the past, so there you go. All right,
So yeah, with these young guys and they're out there
first of all playing in the Big twelve. Some of them,
you know, they have bounced around, they've been other places
and so forth, and putting together a team Whi's been
interesting on the outside looking in, Terry Nelson is seeing

(21:42):
how Wes Miller has gone out and find found these
different guys who bring different skill sets in some fashion
different experiences to this team and seeing in the early
part of this season, in the last couple sort of
how it all comes together and that gelling of them.
Xavier's dealing with this all all these schools are at
this point. How challenging is it? Do you think as

(22:04):
a coach, is they try to sort of find cohesion
with the units such as this.

Speaker 5 (22:11):
Very challenging because you know Richard Patino has the same thing.
The NIL and transport portal area has ERA has really
changed the game because you know, now the most important
thing when you first get your team is now team buildings.
So now you've got to spend money on taking them
to top golf, taking them out of town to different things,

(22:33):
and doing team building exercises, trying to build camaraderie and
unity and get guys to trust each other and understanding
and conflict resolution, all these things that you didn't really
necessarily have to put at the top of the totem
bowl when it comes to building your team before, but
now because you're only going to have your team for
a year, and it's very rare that guys come back

(22:57):
because they're playing up to their left and they're trying
to up their nil value metric and so they play well,
they average fifteen points six rebounds or whatever they're hitting
the portal because if they're doing to that UC, then
maybe Duke may want me at that same level. Maybe
I can do fifteen and six that Duke, and that

(23:18):
goes from being two hundred thousand at UC to eight
hundred thousand a Duke. That for those numbers, and so
it's not so much about legacy, like man, I love Cincinnati,
I want to retire. I mean, when I finish my career,
I want to be here and come back for alumni
Association and all these events and all that. Now guys
are playing at five and sometimes six different schools during

(23:42):
the COVID era, five four for sure, but five and
six different schools I'm like, who are you gonna go
to with when it comes to, you know, alumni events,
you're gonna pay fifty dollars a month to six different
schools or whatever, or you just not gonna give anything,
because it's it's just crazy that there's no loyalty from

(24:02):
either side because if a player is not doing what
he's supposed to do, the coach will have that conversation like, look,
where can I help you go because we're gonna just
recruit over you. And then so that's what's happening to
my son, who's that bowling green with Eddie George right now.
They told him he's gonna have to hit the portal
because they're gonna bring in our own guys from Tennessee
State or wherever they're gonna bring them from. So in

(24:23):
this era, it's hard to coach when you know you're
only gonna have a guy for not even a full year,
like from the beginning of September when you first go
to class to the end of March, and at the
end of March, they're in the portal. Whether you like
them or not, they're in the portal, and it's just like,
good God, like, how can you build something here. I
don't end college coaches.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
I mean, I'm glad these guys are being able to
make a living and in some cases a very good living,
and hopefully bank some of that money because there's no
guarantee on the future, and it's been well deserved to
be able to have some earnings out of what, you know,
the work that you've done, and all these other guys
do to reap some of those rewards. Talking to Terry Nelson,
Crosstown Shootout tomorrow Bearcats Musketeers sentas where it's at this

(25:07):
year ninety third matchup and here on seven hundred WLW
was Sterling one more question before we get back to
the shootout, specifically because the bouncing around hard enough on
the court, as I mixed metaphors for these guys to
be able to gel and find their way and for
coaching and everything associated with that. And you know, I've
moved around a bit doing this work, but it's a

(25:29):
bit of a different animal over the years, just acclimating
and so forth. How does that work? And how do
these guys handle their studies because they're also having to
devote even maybe more time where it is a ton
of time just trying to get their game where it
needs to be. Also, we're talking no, no, I heard you,

(25:54):
I got you. I just want to make sure you
were okay. But the silence for a minute was like pointing.
I'm like, uh, oh, Terry is okay. I'm here dealing
with everything to get it right on the court with
all that transient menoportal movement. How is it for these
guys trying to find their way academically or is that lost?
I mean they still have to do what they have
to do in the classroom.

Speaker 5 (26:14):
Right, Well, these guys are graduating earlier. Right So, doctor
Joe Lucky is one of the best in the country.
Ever since he's come to University Sincinnati from Memphis, the
University of Cincinnati athletic department has been either number one
or number two in overall department GPA in the AAC

(26:37):
and the Big twelve.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Nice.

Speaker 5 (26:38):
So doctor Joe Lucky makes everybody go to the summer
school at least six hours. Its whole philosophy is, if
you take eighteen hours and you take six in the summer,
you're graduating four years. If you take a little bit more,
take a little bit more in the summer, and you
can have a chance of graduating three and a half
years and still have time to know finish your masters.

(26:58):
So there's some people that take twenty one credits and
they go to summer school because they can stay here
and get the meal plan and the whole nine and
left and do the whole thing. Because they're dedicated to
their crafts. They graduate in three years and they get
that by the time they finish their playing career, they
can have their master's degree. So and then a lot
of the basketball players are taking online classes. So because

(27:21):
doctor Lucky says it's not fair for an athlete to
fly in and snowstorms and all the other stuff in
the winter months when basketball is played and you know,
being playing delays and all that and get there and
have to go to an eight o'clock class or ten
o'clock class or whatever when you just landed at two
in the morning and you got to get unpacked, go
to sleep the whole nine and then have to get

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up and be at school at ten in the morning.
Get them an online classes so now he can send
one of his staff members to go on every tip
they go and check their work with the laptops and
everything that's provided for them. So it's been much better
because guys are they're not missing classes. Everybody has over
it three point zero and everybody's getting their stuff done

(28:03):
and he makes it. And Doctor Lucky has been empowered
as a senior associate athletic director that he can pull
a guy from a game and the coach has nothing
to do with it. So if a guy is not
going to class, if he's not getting his work done,
doctor Lucky can can call in and be like, hey,
he's until he gets his paper done. He can't come
to practice, he can't come to a game, and the

(28:25):
coach has nothing to say about it because that's his
job now. And so because there's a standard like that, now,
guys they take it serious and they get their work done.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
It's an amazing thing. Way before anything like this was
going on, I remember just at right stage seeing these
guys in class and I'm like, you guys played last night.
I listened, I watched, and they're in there hitting the
books and more focus than I was. And I was like,
I am obviously not getting it done.

Speaker 5 (28:50):
And now we're trying to be models. They're in their
sleeping brother, come.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
On, some mus I might have fallen asleep too. For
that matter, I'm thinking about talking to Terry Nelson the
Crossown shootout tomorrow. All right, So these guys who are
not familiar when you walk into another campus and you
walk onto that court at Sentas and these guys who
haven't felt this matchup in this energy in the ninety

(29:14):
third meeting of Musketeers and Bearcats, and they're looking to
get it on tomorrow night on seven hundred WLW. Does
that energy just soak into them and they get it?
How long do you think it takes before they start
to feel that energy from the crowd, from the alums,
from everybody else there who may you know, have already
experienced this for you know, a couple of seasons, two years.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
It gets real when they get there in that ninety
minutes before and they're doing shoot arounds and they're doing
their pregame stuff, and the Xavier students will be there
drinking signs, you know, having signs held up calling them
out their name, trying to get them off their game,
you know, trying to jar them a little bit. It'll
it'll hit them because some of these guys have been
in the environments where even if they were the opposing team.

(29:58):
People knew who they were and they were like wanting
to see a show. So they may talk a little
trash until they show that they are like that and
this is the reason why they're going D one or whatever.
Then they'd be like, Oh, everybody's clapping for the guy
who's making to play. Regardless of what side they're on.
Xavier is different. They're gonna realize that Xavier don't care

(30:19):
if you have a forty point game. They're gonna talk
bad about you the entire game. They're gonna say stuff
about you. They're gonna try to get into your head.
And they have to be mentally tough because only mentally
strong and mentally tough teams going to Xavier and win.
So if in the crossounds shootout situation, don't get intimidated
by the crowd because normally you go to a gym

(30:41):
at ninety minutes before, it's not that pack. It's just
some of the service workers. It's a couple of college
students coming in there. Xavier, it's the student section is
gonna be packed. They're gonna be there waiting. When I
played Memphis was like that they had signs, they had
you know, they were drinking they had newspapers, they put
their face, you know, hide their face. They want to
see you. Navier is the real deal. This environment is

(31:03):
gonna be good for them because for some of them
it's gonna be shocking. So we're hoping that once they
see that and they get into a game, they make
a shot early or get a block early or still
early to settle them down, because they're gonna want to
prove to themselves that they're gonna want to shut the
fans up so bad that they forced the issue. Like

(31:24):
Kobe Bryant in Game seven of that two thy eleven
Championship against the Celtics, where he couldn't make a shot yep,
but he still got an MVP of the series, but
he wanted it so bad that his nerves overtook him
and he couldn't make a shot. It took ron our
test to win a game, you know, from them to
get that championship. It's gonna be nerve wrecking.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
I'm looking forward to giving an earful tomorrow. Bearcatch look
to make it back to back. They won by three
sixty eight sixty five last year. They'll do it at
Sentas Tomorrow night, seven thirty tip off It's always great
hearing you. Good to talk to you. I appreciate you
making time. It's tear Nelson. He is a legend until
he'll be calling the game with Dan Horde tomorrow. Right

(32:05):
here on seven hundred WLW whi's the Crosstown shootout. Terry,
thank you for making time. I really do appreciate it.
I hope you have a great night.

Speaker 5 (32:13):
Done.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Thank you, sir. All right, news time straight away. Sorry
I'm a little bit late. We'll have Dave Hatter on
the other side talking to cybersecurity issues. Where the Bengals
play Sunday here seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati. Can you hear that?
That's the sound of lots of electronic toys, communication technology
on the wrist, in the hand, in the backseat, in

(32:34):
the bed at night with that blue light when you're
supposed to be trying to sleep or the kids are
supposed to be getting ready for school tomorrow, rather than
like who knows what they're doing there? Maybe buying games
and stuff on your dollar. There's a lot including shopping.
Is we continue to hit the store cyber week, I
guess is what we're calling it now. How you're doing
at Sterling on a Thursday Night. Dave Patter, cybersecurity expert

(32:56):
seven hundred WLW Hicks credentials or an alphabet soup of things.
I have no idea what the hell they are.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
He's an architect of software, consultant, educator and he's a
self described nerd, which I I think we're maybe brothers
from other mothers. Dave Patter, how are you? How's everything?

Speaker 4 (33:16):
I'm good, stirring, thanks for having me on. And you
know I was gonna say, but you said it better
than I could. You could just condence all of it down.
I'm going to just kind of a nerd, you know,
cool hat wear nerd. When you get right down to
the brother.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
It's all right. You're well dressed. We saw you at
the Christmas party. It was good and I'm like, man,
I don't know why I didn't ask it like you
have you on then, but I was like, just shiny objects,
jingle bells and all. It was too much And I
are absolutely and you were headed out. I think you
had some type of mayor business to deal with, because

(33:46):
you know you you are that guy, which is pretty
nice too for it, right, right, So I.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
Had to get out of there. You are correct, for
a city council meeting, you know, before it got too crazy.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yeah, I try to avoid the crazy, but it maintained
some sense of the court. Somebody's got to do it,
so as mayor for instance, as well as an expert
in cybersecurity. And I have friends who had issues with
the water bill, not in Ohio but elsewhere recently where
apparently their water company or whoever provides their water service

(34:16):
apparently got jacked, which has caused them problems. This being
the holiday shopping season, lots of new gear as well,
aside from just going either on a device of choice
or actually going to the store, which I like to
do a little bit of both, there's a lot of
issues with people's credentials being stolen and emails and phishing

(34:36):
scams and everything else. And I don't mean like I'm
going to take a trip to go do some fly fishing.
We're talking about fishing of other types. What's the biggest
threat or concern that you see right now now, Dave Hatter, Well.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
You always see elevated risk around any type of big
time shopping event. Prime Day for example, when Prime Day
hit this year, a cybersecurity firm had done so research
and in this place right into what I'm going to
say next. But they did some research and found that
over two hundred thousand, two hundred thousand fraudulent websites were

(35:10):
created around Prime Day at a four month period. And
there's two key things, and then I'll come back to
the Christmas season here. First off, the average person who's
not in the business like me and a nerd like
you to spend thirty plus years do with this, doesn't
realize how easy it is to create something that is spooked,
something that looks legitimate to the naked eye, but it

(35:31):
is fraudulent. Whether it's an entire website like these two
hundred thousand websites, whether it's an email, whether it's a
text message, whether it's a phone call. And thanks to AI,
it's getting easier and easier to do these things. But
it's very easy to create something that looks like it's
legit to the naked eye, and unless you're fairly technical
or we know how to dig into it, you can't
tell it's not legit. The bad guys notice. And when

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you get into these again, these shopping oriented seasons, they
will frequently set up fake websites. They will you know,
send out hundreds of millions of phishing emails because it's
cheap and easy to do, and it's easy to make
them look very realistic. I would bet you every single
person you're listening audience has gotten one or more frauds
with texts in the last couple of days. I'm de

(36:14):
loused with these things. You know, your package didn't get delivered,
you owe a told the sheriff wants to see you
about whatever.

Speaker 5 (36:21):
I mean.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
You know, it's very easy to spoop a phone number,
and it's nearly, you know, almost free to send out texts,
so you know they're coming at you from every angle.
They're on social media, they're in kids' video games. But
when you get into these shopping seas, its right when
they know people are looking for deals. In many cases,
you've got guys like me who wait to the last
minutes to buy something for their wife. You know, they're

(36:43):
playing off all these angles. They're putting all this fraudulum
stuff out there, But it's really the stooping and then
the social engineering that goes along with it. Whether it's
the this deal is too good to be true. You
have to act by five pm to day or your
package has been delayed or whatever. They create things that
look very realistic and then and you know, they engineer
you with either a deal it's too good to be true,

(37:03):
or there's some sort of disaster that's about to happen
to you. And you know that's how they suck people
into this stuff, and then it just gets elevated around
the You know it's never ending, but it's really elevated
these times a year because they know people are ready
to spend money and they're out there looking for good deals.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Talking to Dave had her cybersecurity expert of the Big One,
Stirling on two hundred thousand fraudulent websites. That's hard to process.
But the bell that rang in my head as soon
as you said that is that someone very close to me,
an elderly or elder relative of mine, tells me is
she was getting on one of her insurance websites that

(37:40):
apparently they had spoofed that site and had different phone
numbers and even a link that she caught early, but
was concerned even calling that wasn't sure that what number
was right because they were just a number or two
off for transposed, and not everybody. I was surprised. She
reached out to me. I'm like, I don't know if
I'm the right person to call this, but what do
you tell so what about that? And you would think

(38:01):
that a big insurance company would have a way to
protect themselves from that very issue, if nothing else, by
using you know, all the dot biz, dot everything else
to avoid anything close to being faked.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
Well, you're you're on the right track, Sterling, And in
many larger organizations with deep pockets that can go out
and register a bunch of different domains will do that
right to keep people from setting up these doppelganger domains
and these spoof websites for something similar. But there's there's
two major problems with this that make it an almost
insurmountable task. Again, even if you're like a Kroger p

(38:37):
and G someone with very deep pockets, you might register
a Kroger dot com, Kroger dot biz, Kroger dot whatever. Right,
here's here's the thing that the bad guys know that
the average person doesn't, and it really gets to the
heart of this spoofing issue. Again. You can I could
go out right now and with very little skill get
a get a free tool that would allow me to

(38:57):
clone to literally copy everything off the seven hundred wl
do website, put it on a server somewhere and then now,
of course, the trick is, how do I register a
domain that looks like seven hundred wow dot com or
you know what I'm saying. Sure, well, okay, here's part
of the trick if you think about it. Other languages
have different characters, right, Spanish has a different character set.

(39:20):
You know, it overlaps with English, but they have certain
characters with umlautz and umloutz. German but things like that, right,
German has you know, umlountz. When you look at other
characters and from other character sets, right, Like, if you
get a keyboard that's set up for German, it will
allow you to enter these German characters. So this is
the idea of a character set. Well, there's character sets

(39:41):
for every language known. Demand I could go out and
I could try to register a domain seven hundreds of
a little tricky because they're just zeros. But I might
rEFInd a character set where the upper case letter O
to the naked eye looks like a zero. The computer
knows that's not a zero, but the human being does
not know that's not a zero. I might register domain

(40:02):
name like city Bank, where the A is actually like
a different character from another language, looks very similar to
the English A. If you know what you're looking for,
and you look very carefully, you'll see a very very
tiny difference. But the average person A does not even
know this is a thing. And secondarily, unless you're paying

(40:23):
extremely careful attention and you're just a total tinfoil hat
nut like me, you're not going to notice this. The
bad guys know this, of course, so I think, and
that's you know, that's why one of the reasons why
I very much appreciate you letting me come on to
talk about this. But the best defense against all of
this is awareness. Awareness that this is happening, That this
is not some stuff some nut like me made up.

(40:44):
This is real. It's happening all the time. These people
that are behind it are very smart, right, and they're
playing off the fact that the average person doesn't understand
any of this. So I create a website like target
dot com, for example, and instead of the A, I
use the krillic right, it looks almost exactly like an A.

(41:05):
So and to answer your question specifically, there is it
would be almost impossible to register every possible combination of
a domain with every character set known demand to try
to block someone from creating a doppelganger site that's using
that technique. Does that make sense?

Speaker 1 (41:22):
This is a difficult It absolutely does, and it doesn't
really make me feel a whole lot better about any
of this. To be honest with you're talking to Dave
had or cybersecurity expert. But yeah, I understand, you just
have to be It's sort of like with telling someone
that you know when they tell you they're not going
to call you, that they're really not going to call
you and ask you for information out of the blue
or text you for certain information and so forth.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
I want to go down that path because I think
that's super important and it ties into this. But there's
one last thing I want to throw out. And even
if they don't use a different character set, they're sometimes
so crafty. They might register let's say Microsoft dot com
and they'll use a lowercase R and a lowercase end
because unless you're looking very carefully, it looks like a
lowercase M when they're right next to one another. Yeah,

(42:07):
that's how that's how creative these folks are. So again,
knowing these kind of scams are out there and knowing
that you should be extra aware and on heightened alert
year when they're sending out the deal that's too good
to be true and you got to act on it today. Right,
If you're just aware and skeptical, you're going to be
a lot better off than most people. And then to

(42:27):
your point, like, don't take the call. So this just
just in the headlines. Recently, Apple has been warning that
there are tech support scams out there. This tech support
scam is not new, but it doesn't have to be
tech support. No big company. Apple will tell you on
their website. Google will tell you on their website. Microsoft
will tell you on their website. And if you don't
believe what I'm about to say, neck try to call

(42:48):
them and see if you can get help from them,
much less them sitting around going huh, looks like Sterling's
computer might have a virus. Hey, Sterling, this is Apple.
You might have a virus on your computer. Well, I'm
just letting me get in there and fix that thing
up for you. That is never, ever, ever, ever going
to happen. If you get a call like that, you know,
you get a call from your bank going back you
mentioned irrelative. I'm sitting on accounts one night with my

(43:11):
wife and she gets a call from our bank quote
unquote USAA, hey, there's broad on your accounts. Blah blah
blah blah. My hang up, it's a scam. She's like, no,
this sounds legitimate. It's a scam.

Speaker 5 (43:22):
Trust me. Hang up.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
Your bank is not going to call you. They're not
going to text you, and if they do, right, you
should not act on that. You should hang up, don't
take the call, get out your credit card, call the
number on the credit card, get your bank statement, go
to the app on your phone that you use every day,
Go to the website that you use. Don't take debate folks,

(43:45):
because they are professional con artists.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
That's their job. It'll be nice if they use their
powers for good, but they don't. I guess it's part
of the fun. They've had. Her final question, We're short
on time, and I appreciate the insight. And I could
talk for hours on this, which I'm sure would put
you to sleep, because this is what you're life. I
just live in fear and don't answer my phone, so
yes or no answer. Effectively, smart toys are everywhere. AI

(44:10):
is everywhere. Do you trust smart toys with your kids
in twenty twenty five going into twenty twenty six, this
gift giving holiday season.

Speaker 4 (44:20):
Absolutely, not a chance I would buy any sort of
internet connected toy, especially if it has a AI in
it for my children or grandchildren. Not a chance I
would buy something like that. Way too much risk, not
just because of the AI, but because of the surveillance
they're recording the freaky, weird people that could potentially access
your kids through it. I would avoid that stuff like

(44:40):
the plague. And if you look at any kind of
consumer ambassy groups that looks at this, they will tell
you the same thing, stay away from next stuff.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
How can people find out more about what you do
and reach out if they in fact need the help
of one day've had or cybersecurity expert here the big.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
One, Well, I'm easy to find on x Dave at
dave had LinkedIn or intrust dash dot com.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
There you go, Thank you, my man. I hope you
have a fantastic night. And I feel see you're supposed
to make me feel better. And even Joe Waddell was
producing He's like, I don't feel much safer at all,
So that's great, I guess fear is great. TV is
good at scaring people. I guess we're getting better at it.
Two here Dave had her Thank you.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
Sir, always my pleasure.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Ster Thanks, take care of yourself. Quick break coming up
ten third to report, other side more to do plus
Dev Shapiro talking about got a deal and saving money
for you this holiday season. Sterling seven hundred WLW. Hey,
how you doing, Sterling? Hanging out fine? Thursday Night, seven
hundred WLW. Somer Night Basketball bear Cats Crosstown shoot at

(45:39):
face off against Xavier's Musketeers Sinta Center seven thirty tip
conversation earlier with Terry Nelson, of course, one of those
voices of the basketball bear Cats that are on the
program for a long time than they're part of that
final four team back in ninety two. As well. You
can listen back to the podcast talking to him about
that matchup and everything else with that podcast to be

(45:59):
up at the show a little bit later as we
get into atn after midnight. Also a bit stuff with
Dave Hatter or cybersecurity expere with a whole lot of
people shopping and so forth for new gear and a
lot of concern and people out there looking to high
star stuff our identities in our pockets for sure, looking
to rip people off. So that'll be worth listening to

(46:21):
as well. Coming up in about twenty seven minutes or so,
Deb Shapiro from godadeal dot com going to talk about
saving money and where the best deals are this cyber
week and what's left of it and leading up through
those holidays where were let to take care of the
ones that we care about, the ones we love, and
it maybe even a little good stuff for ourselves as well.
Appreciate you hanging out speaking of such a larra Lee

(46:42):
Mallen came in. I'm sorry, I just said a brain cramp.
He comes in to the studio and he says, you're
looking for like a ramp for like laptops and desktop
computers and so forth. AI, which is supposed to be
the savior for everything unless you're in like hospitality business
with a lot of jobs, will be made a lot
easier with the help of AI and all the technology

(47:04):
with it helping to make stuff faster, complicated solutions found
much easier, and so forth. But streamlining workflows and of
course rationalizing expenses for individuals, for small business and certainly
big business of the world is changing and changing fast,
but this is disturbing if you're someone who likes to

(47:27):
mess around with your own technology, your laptop, your desktop.
Maybe you're a gamer somebody like that, where you want
to maybe put some ram in, maybe soup up your
stuff without actually buying new gear overall, new laptop, new desktop.
I've been one of those people who go to microcenter,
go online, maybe somewhere else order look for the best

(47:47):
price for the stuff, something quality. And apparently the idea
of cheap RAM, at least for the time being, is
not going to be back anytime soon, depending on what
you're looking at. And they say that's because of a
generative AI data centers. Apparently it's sucking up all the
world's memory and storage supplies and jacking up prices with it.

(48:11):
It's not just going to be our electricity or issues
with water to cool down all these hard working technologies.
Apparently it's also going to hurt people who like to
mess around and build their own stuff or tool it
or whatever else they're saying. Now price is up five
hundred percent for SSD and overall mets from a CyberPower

(48:34):
pc and a bunch of others. May we had to
have Dave Hatter on about this too. My guess is
he's one of those like fix him up type of people.
That's crazy. So in the midst of all this change
and evolution, if you will, that's going to be something
to look forward to, apparently cheaper to just to buy
new stuff, which is where we are in a lot
of ways, disposable society. I mean, you know, take the

(48:56):
time to fix something or order it, you know, from
a pick up place or go to the store, and
you can buy new for less than it would be
to fix some stuff used to be. You know tube
TV's I hear my elders tell me about. Oh yeah,
I remember when you go you have a TV repair
man come to the house, they plug tubes in, get
it fixed up. And you know that you keep a

(49:17):
TV that was the size of like, I don't know,
maybe my first apartment or something. Now you get a
TV the size of your wall, and if it goes
on the fritz, depending, you just go get a new one.
So it's a weird, disposable kind of world in which
we're living in a lot of ways, and apparently laptops
and other stuff for that ram that gets popped in
and out. If you wanted to sort of soup up

(49:38):
your gear, it's going to be a situation where it
might be cheaper to go buy something new overall and
forget about it. So that's something leading into the holidays.
And if you've got somebody who's big into gaming and
so forth, they probably already known this. It's been a
while since I've actually, you know, souped up one of
my bits of equipment. And when Lee came in here,

(49:59):
I was like, what are you talking about? I'm like,
oh no, let me see. So I started looking at prices. Yeah,
it is steep. It is happening five three seven nine
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(50:21):
that we've talked about. Basically tonight. Five three seven nine,
seven thousand, eight hundred. The Big One. Pick up the phone,
give it the finger. Like my good friend mister K
used to say, I want to revisit something I mentioned earlier,
because I have gotten a good number of communicate by
way of X in direct messaging also and to some

(50:43):
conversations that just in general, and I sort of led
with this early on, talking about those Pentagon officials, higher
ups in the military generals and stuff with a whole
lot of decorations on those chests. You may have seen
video of this already closed door meeting with lawmakers discussing
those attacks on what they're calling drug boats in parts

(51:06):
of the Pacific. They got another one today, killing four
and apparently putting the kaibash on some drugs coming stateside.
At least that's the idea, whether from Columbia or elsewhere,
whether it's from Venezuela over in the Caribbean. Of course,
when all these attacks started, which is what this hearing
was about, and these conversations and probing questions with these

(51:26):
military generals and so forth who were a party to
these decisions and continuing that operation, that's onward and forward
at this point. Here's what I want to know, because
the idea of the war on drugs, right, it seems
like as long as I've been alive, they've been talking
about a war on drugs, which means that a whole
lot of people still looking to get hopped up on

(51:48):
the goofballs of one type or another and enjoying the
drugs and stuff. And it doesn't seem that the hunger
is going away. So I'm just wondering, because you know,
this was not far from but certainly the ravages of
the opioid epidemic and still fentanyl issues and car fentanyl issues,
and people still like the cocaine I understand, and there

(52:10):
are probably some other drugs I don't even know about
that people like to get hopped up on. The concern
is not knowing the power of some of these. And
there was a whole lot of talk that it was
from China before China, China, China, China, China. We kept
hearing it was from China. Then we heard it was
coming through Canada, so they sealed up that border. Apparently
they sealed up the southern border. Now they're going after
like cigar boats and everything else. That reminds me of

(52:31):
reruns of Miami Vice that's pretty much streaming twenty four
hours a day. What I want to know is this,
what do you think this is going to somehow help
limit the supply of drugs here Stateside, my guess is
they'll find another way to get it in here. I'm

(52:53):
just guessing cargo containers, whatever else it is, and law enforcement,
DEA whatever, they're working hard trying to end all of this.
But what I want to know in addition to that is,
are you concerned about so called war crimes? Are you
concerned that somehow in international waters we're just blowing these

(53:16):
vessels up and leaving people to fend for themselves, if
not killing them immediately, letting them drown, or whatever else
goes into it. If you've ever been out at sea
any distance where you can't see shore anymore, probably can't
swim the shore. We certainly know that the drug problem
here State site is an issue. Is this going to
help curb it? Just raise prices for the dope? Is

(53:38):
this something that we should be doing with our military?
I asked, because a lot of people are upset, A
lot of people are up in arms, you know, and
a lot of people are thinking that somehow we have
crossed a line, and that includes lawmakers, some from both
sides of the aisle in relation to this. So I'm
just curious I have seen the ravages of what drugs do.

(53:59):
Whether it's legal drug like alcohol booze. A lot of
people hit the bottle. More people kill themselves drinking than
just about anything else. Hell, they kill a lot of
other people too when they get behind the wheel. Whether
it's you know, prescription medications used and abused, whether it's
some other type of pharmaceutical that is cooked up someplace,
methamphetamine or otherwise. People like to get high. They have

(54:21):
always like to alter their minds. It starts as early
as the playground and spinning around on do you call
it a marrow go round? Whatever, the things that spins around,
and then you know, or even I've seen kids and
I remember doing this spinning around and then you know,
you fall down because you're dizzy and disoriented. That's the
first time a lot of kids notice that they're altered,

(54:43):
not feeling like they once did, a little woozy or otherwise.
So one is this going to make a difference? Should there?
What can we do differently? And do you give a
damn about people being blown up in the Caribbean or
in parts of the Pacific by our military if they
are in fact putting an end to an influx of
the illegal drugs that is leaving the wake of carnage, death, suffering,

(55:05):
illicit trafficking on the streets of Cincinnati, in Newport and
Covington and Dayton, Ohio, or anywhere else across the country
for that matter, thirty eight states after dark listening to
me on the Nation station or effectively the world and
the iHeartRadio app. People have been looking to get drunk
and high in one way or another forever. So what

(55:26):
difference is this really going to make? And if you
are on vacation or heading some place in the Caribbean,
are you more or less likely to take a fishing
vessel out in a boat to go check out and
to see if you can't catch some big fish or
maybe do some scuba diving. I've been to Cosmo, I've
been to other places in the Caribbean and had a

(55:46):
chance to do with some of that. I like to
fish as well. My biggest worry was losing a pole,
running out of air, getting the bends. I never thought
that in that situation I might be looking from above
to see if it was my ass that was going
to be blown out of the water, which is what
people in these countries are now are saying that they're
fishermen and not drug dealers or traffickers five point three

(56:09):
seven four nine seven eight hundred the big one. Does
it matter to you that this is going on? And
the idea that it is a war and the question
of war crimes is that you'd have to have a
declaration of war, which I don't recall we've done, even
though it has been the war on drugs for as
long as I've pretty much been alive. To Clifton and
Kevin was sterling on seven hundred WLW Kevin, what's going on?

(56:29):
Appreciate you listening to being a part of the show.

Speaker 7 (56:32):
Spelling. You hit it on that. You hit it on
the head man, you hit it one hundred on the
head Tarling play style Montown listener, Uh, thank you you
and Donna, you guys right. Appreciate Now here's the thing.
Own property, well, my family does in the caravan and
I'm afraid spelling, I am afraid. I'm afraid. I'm usually Kevin,

(56:56):
but now I'm afraid because them pulling the boats and
I guess I can't go out on the boat.

Speaker 4 (57:06):
Now.

Speaker 7 (57:06):
The good thing is I don't swim that well, so
I probably wasn't going on the boat anyway, It's probably
not going to work out. I don't think I'll start
targeting planes because I do fly and those are really small.
Post story, I am. I am at a loss as
to whether or not those are the kind of boats

(57:29):
are the problems for the millions of pounds of drugs
coming to the US on an annual basis. I just
I don't see it.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
There is a hunger. I would think that there would
be an effort in some way, because I mean, listen,
we don't want it coming here. Although I say, do
what you want and handle yourself appropriately and if you
you know, if you want to do some drugs, do them.
Just don't put anybody else in harm's way and live
your life. That's just my view, right. But on the
other side of it, do you have a problem with

(58:02):
them blowing these people out of the water in general,
if in fact they can confirm that it isn't you know,
something inbound to the States or no.

Speaker 7 (58:10):
So look, I mean you know the so first off,
I have a massive degree in public public administration, right,
so the only thing I know is policy, and I
don't know if any policy that allows for them to
do it, and that's the concern. Listen, if you do
it within the regulations of our great United States, right,

(58:31):
the Constitution, and you do what it's constitutionally appropriate, I
have no problem. But not being from this country does
not mean you don't have those same inalienable rights. Right.
That's why our founder fathers came up with that document
to say, Hey, this isn't just for the people in
the United States, this is for all people. So blowing
somebody up in the middle of the water without giving

(58:52):
them a trial, yeah, that rubs me the wrong way,
the same way as is right somebody where it's down
the street and do something nefarious to somebody related to you, right,
because to me, it's the same thing.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
You know what, I absolutely do. I get it. I
get it, and I appreciate the perspective and what you bring.
I hope you'll call again. I appreciate you the kind
words and listening into a great perspective. Kevin. I hope
you have a fantastic night you too. Merry Christmas, Happy
holidays to you as well. Christmas time is here for sure,
your chance to get interactive on this and other stuff
coming up as well. Dev Shapiro Gidadeal dot comm gonna

(59:30):
join us, talk about saving money for you and yours
and the deals still left for Cyber weekend, whatever else
between now and Christmas time and Hanukkah and Kwanza and
whatever makes you happy in these United States, It's a
Thursday Sterling Crosstown shootout. Tomorrow night, bear Cats, Musketeers sentas
and here on the nation station comes Sunday. What else

(59:52):
Bengals bills from Buffalo one o'clock, seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati.
There we go, one final hour to get going to
spend this fine Thursday night. Kevin Gordon, America's trucking network
in the distance getting warmed up after midnight, kind enough
to give us some time sterling hanging out here. Dev Shapiro,

(01:00:15):
it's been way too long, close to a year from
godadeal dot com. Welcome back to the big One. How
are you. How's a holiday season treating you?

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
I'm doing great? How are you guys doing?

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
I have no complaints. We're supposed to connect. I think
it was last week and you were You're in Dallas.
For those who don't know, you were in the midst
of like some serious like thunderstorm action. We were thinking
snow and you were dealing with a different type of
storm scenario. So you survive.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Problem, Yeah, no problem.

Speaker 6 (01:00:41):
Probably about two miles away from my house, another house
was struck by lightning calm fire. Luckily didn't do too
much damage. But yeah, I'm in Texas, so you know,
the weather gets crazy. It's forty degrees here right now,
but you know, supposed to warm up later next week.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
So it is what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
Forty Almost sounds warm me right now, but I'm whining.
I complain if it's too hot. I complain if it's
too cold. I mean, I got problems, as you know.
Def Shapiro from gotadal dot com was sterling on the
big one. All right, So here we are. We are
in full on cyber week mode. You've been through Cyber Monday,
You've been through the Black Friday Deal. You know, people
may still have in their memory those times when people

(01:01:20):
would be looking for leaked ads that you were willing
and able to share with the masses, which is I
think how we initially started talking. Because you would get
copies of these things in one way or another, which
I think a lot of these companies leaked the ads
at the time. Early but it was back when people
were waiting online at these stores often Thanksgiving Day, ditching

(01:01:41):
out on meals, maybe even having catered meals in some
cases outside of a pick a store type of scenario.
But it's a different world we're living in now. How
is the business now? With some retailers stocking up before
some of the tariffs kicked in or before or they
were changed or yanked away or were never necessarily enacted

(01:02:03):
though they were talked about. Uh, because prices have been
so high with inflation. A lot of different types of
pressures in regard to inflation, and I'm always looking to
save money. Is waiting better or no?

Speaker 6 (01:02:15):
You know, I think with the tariff situation, you know
there are some issues out there, But you know, I've
been monitoring the big box retailers and they've not really
had too much problem with stock issues or anything. I
think Walmart, Best Buy, Costco, those big retailers in your area,
I think they did a pretty good job of stalking up.

(01:02:36):
And I think a lot of the overseas factories we're
very preemptive of sending a lot of stock here to
the States. I've not seen much, but I've also too
seen some of the deals that are not really there,
you know. I mean there's some of like the deep
cuts on the TV has not really been there this year,
But on other you know items, there's been some really
good deals. So it's a lot of a hit and mess.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Def Shapiro from Got to Deal Tom was stirling on
the big one. So what are the product sectors you mentioned?
Television's electronics, that's always this sort of thing leading into
say Super Bowl, which of course is a little ways
away yet, but that and a lot of college hoops
and just in general it's the gift given season a
lot of people look to do it. So any particular

(01:03:19):
product sector that seems to be the most tantalizing with
deals or is that one of those that it depends
on the retailer as much as it does the product sector.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Depends on the retailer.

Speaker 6 (01:03:30):
And you know, as you said opening the segment up,
we're in the middle Cyber Week, Cyber Monday. I think
you're going to start seeing a lot more deep, deep
discounts coming out next week. We got Honkkah starting in
about ten days, so we got you know, our Jewish
friends and relatives that are going to be celebrating that
so I think a lot of the retailers are going
to start slashing prices for that, and then I think

(01:03:53):
the retailers are going to get panicted nervous towards the
big day towards Christmas. So I think you're going to
see a lot more sales coming about and coming online.
And that's kind of the beauty of where we are
right now in the world. Everything's so electronic, so they
could just decide at the last minute to you know, hey,
we're going to discount this this product line or you know,

(01:04:14):
this section of products that we have. I'm like, way
back in the day when you and I started, you
would have to you know, plan it, print an AD
and stuff like that. I think with the retailers, they're
going to just you know, flip on and flip off
the switch.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Kind of a strange thing. Time changes everything. Talking to
Desha Biro fromgodadeal dot com, so what about this thing?
And when I was I work in the automotive industry
a little bit too, and they were just coming into
the front end at that time of sort of pricing
for a marketplace, so you could see automatically what the
other competitors ad and where you were and sort of
find you know, that price. And now we see in

(01:04:49):
other forms of retail that sometimes if they noticed that
you've been looking on one device or another and they're
tracking you, depending that prices may vary from me to
my neighbor because of what we've bought previously in how
we're shopping. How much does that play into this compared
to going into the store and just seeing what's on
the shelves, and so many of us are just waiting

(01:05:10):
for somebody to drop it off and hope to not
be victimized by a porch pirate.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
You know, it plays a lot.

Speaker 6 (01:05:17):
I think you know, I always tell people, and I've
told people this for many years now. You know, intelligence
and information is more valuable than gold. So as you're
surfing the internet, on Facebook, on the socials, on the
Gram and stuff like that, you know these companies are
tracking you. They're tracking you know, your habits and stuff.
And I think a lot of retaillers have that technology.

(01:05:39):
I know Walmart does, I know target desk to where
they may give you an extra discount. I'll give you
a great example. There was a book on Yiddish New York.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
You know New York.

Speaker 6 (01:05:50):
Yiddish back in the you know, back in the day,
and I've been looking at this book. It's it was
in my favorites list. It went from you know, I
think it went from like forty dollars to thirty and
then all of a sudden, I get a message from
Amazon saying, hey, I there's a fifteen dollars off coupon
you need to use in the next four hours. So
I was able to get that book for a very

(01:06:12):
very reasonable price. But you know, these these companies, you know,
collect information on you, and and you know, I always
tell people that, you know, Google knows when you're sick,
and knows when you have cancer and stuff like that,
or when you're going to get a divorce before even
your spouse does or your significant other, because everything's all

(01:06:32):
on that computer and you search stuff, and you so
the retailers know where the market staff and where to like,
you know, take a hit on some items just to
get you in there and to buy stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
Now you're just talking to our cybersecurity expert. A little earlier,
Dave had into now talking to Dev Shapiro, And it's
funny how all of these type of topics in conversation
that we've been touching on are somewhat interrelated. And I'm
not trying to be the profit of doom dev but
you said something quite interesting. So because they know what
we're looking at, what we're reading, and all the things

(01:07:04):
that go in with AI, they know what you're sick of,
or whether you're researching because of a family member or
whatever else. It's very much in our business and aware
of our lifestyle situation and where we are and catering
to us. On one hand, there's a benefit. But on
the other hand, if they know that you're in desperate

(01:07:25):
need of something, supply demand says that it has more
value than they can obviously put the screws to you,
rightly or wrongly. How much does that play into the
retail game?

Speaker 6 (01:07:35):
That plays a lot into the retail game, because the
whole thing about our retailer is they want to get
you in the door, whether it be in the cyber
door of surfing their website or in the door physically.
And like I said, with that book on Yidish New York, yeah,
I mean it's a very specialized book. But when I
bought it, I also too bought a few more iems
because I was like well, well I'm here. I'll just

(01:07:57):
you know, put several stuff from my card and I
was looking for a Stax Christmas album that I wanted,
so I paid full retail for that, and there was
a few other things I needed for the house. So yeah,
so besides buying the Yiddish book, I got several other
things that I paid almost close to full retail for.
So you know, it did their job. It did the

(01:08:17):
job that they wanted to.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
And for those who don't know, I mean, there's a
whole lot of words in our regular everyday you know
slang laden American lexicon of English as such that it
is where there are Yiddish words that are everyday thing.
So it sounds like a fantastic read. And our families
are both sort of mixed up a little bit. I
love Christmas, I love Hanukah, I love all the holidays
in general. Pick one and I embrace it. So's it's

(01:08:42):
pretty interesting. Now I'm like, man, I need to get
that book.

Speaker 6 (01:08:44):
We also do have Quansa as well, and our friends
that celebrate Kwansa, So you know, December is a really
interesting and fun time just to celebrate everything that we
we love, celebrate our friends and our family, and that's.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
Really what the holidays is about.

Speaker 6 (01:08:59):
And you know that's what gift giving is about too,
is you know, getting something special for that friend that
you know, modeor lawn when we are on vacation, or
you know, our significant other or whatnot. That's what's all
about here.

Speaker 5 (01:09:11):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
I have two things here. One is we've discussed this before,
the fear of missing out, and it's a powerful feeling.
We are viscerally affected and controlled by our pleasure and
pain and the pain associated with missing out. Whether it's
that one gadget toy, whatever it is that the kids
may want that we love and wanted to make happy,
or whether it's that idea of missing out on the

(01:09:32):
best deal. If someone's you know, obviously, if it's a
limited items for some reason this season, whatever the particular
toy or whatever device it is, you want to get
it because if it's in short supply, then you're stuck
and it's gone correct correct.

Speaker 6 (01:09:48):
But I'm not really seeing anything in short supply. It's
not like the Elmo dolls or the Cavish fash dolls
that our parents fought for. You know, I'm not seeing
any of that short supplies. You know, I haven't seen
in several years. Maybe there's that one particular toy. You know,
I'm a forty six year old single guy, so I
don't have kids and I don't buy for kids. But

(01:10:09):
you know all of our you know, we don't have
any kids in our family. But you have not seen
anything in like short supply or anything like that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
What do you tell someone who is of the opinion
that maybe it will turn a week from now to
two weeks from now, leading closer to Christmas in the
midst of Hannah at that point you mentioned Kwanza even
if you're just you know, against the holidays but want
to save a dollar, what do you tell someone to
get something now? Can you go back to a retailer
and say, hey, you discounted it more. Can you get
the difference or is it just you got it when

(01:10:38):
you got it, so suck it up and deal with it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
You know, it's you got it when you got it.

Speaker 6 (01:10:43):
So a lot of these retailers have clauses in their
return policy and their price matching policy that they do not,
you know, do any of that price matching during the holidays.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
You know, if it's.

Speaker 6 (01:10:54):
Something that you really want or you really want to
give you know, whoever that gift, I would go ahead
and get it pulled the trigger because that joy you're
going to have given it to that person and seeing
their reaction is going to stay with you for the
rest of your life. But you can also too go
to godideil dot com. So we have a message board
there that if you're looking for a particular item, you

(01:11:15):
can say, hey, I'm looking for this grill or I'm
looking for a book, or looking for something, where can
I find it the best price? And we have people
that will jump on every day, people that will jump
on and help you find that item at the good
best price possible. And that's what the beauty of goodideil
dot com and has been for the last twenty plus years.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
What have I not asked that you think is relevant
to was somebody looking to find that best deals kind
of scenario? Because even you may be loaded, I mean,
but I always want to I want to say.

Speaker 6 (01:11:47):
Well, you know, you may be loaded, or somebody may
be loaded, but some of the richest people in the
world they you know, look at Warren Buffett. He goes
to McDonald's and he uses coupons of McDonald's. So It's
all about how you be smart with your money. But
the biggest thing I've been telling friends.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
And families look local.

Speaker 6 (01:12:03):
You know, we talk about tariffs and stuff like that,
and we've kind of talked about this in the past,
but look at local, local gift shops, local businesses. They're
suffering too, and they need to be able to put
food on the table and close on their body. But
you know there's also two. You know, your local sporting
teams will have deals in their pro shops, but also
two for tickets for you know, the following sporting year.

(01:12:27):
Museums have a lot of great deals. You know, workout
facilities like the JCC here in Dallas and a lot
of the jccs around the Jewish Community centers around America
that are having Cyber Week specials on discount of membership.
So there's a lot you can do if you shop local.
You don't have to shop at the big buck stores.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
Local.

Speaker 6 (01:12:46):
You know, this is how our economy runs as local businesses,
and we need to keep those folks and you know
in business now.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
I mean they are the largest employer in the engine
to this economy. There is no question friends neighbors, So
it's all about keeping up money moving around and whether
it's restaurants or gift shops of one type or another,
something specialty or even the you know, the deli or
the bakery around the corner. Got a deal, said Dev
Shapiro was sterling on seven hundred WLW. I want to
switch gear. So I think we've covered some stuff and

(01:13:13):
we've always discussed off the air about maybe doing something
on the youre talking about filmfest stuff, and you travel
around in the film industry in one way or another.
You know, I'm curious, are you ever or have you
ever made it to Cincinnati for the Cincinnati Film Fest?
Are you considering this? Is it possible that you can
do it twenty six?

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
Well, that is next that is on my list next year.

Speaker 6 (01:13:35):
I mean I always wanted to come to your area
for nothing but great things about your lovely city, and
so that is a goal next year. And I'd love
to come and to let to meet you in person.
Maybe we could talk about films in person.

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
Yeah, that'd be fantastic. Anything else I haven't asked or
about film stuff. Anything you got. This is your time,
and I appreciate you making it, and uh, you know,
I just you're just a good guy, and you've always
made yourself available and I have great information your good egg.

Speaker 6 (01:14:00):
But I really do appreciate it. I would say, you know,
you know, just shop around. I mean, the biggest thing
that I would tell people is know what you're.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
Going to buy. Do your research.

Speaker 6 (01:14:09):
You know, we have the Google machine and Reddit and
gottideal dot com. So know what you're going to buy.
Do do research on prices and you know, price history,
and that's the best way you can arm yourself against
getting cheated or getting scammed. Also to just you know,
change your passwords to your you know, shopping accounts, making
sure your credit cards are up to date on those

(01:14:31):
shopping accounts. You know, just be you know, the holidays,
we get in such a big rush, and this kind
of goes with your cybersecurity. Guys, you'll agree with me.
Just just be careful, don't click on any links you
see if it's too good to be true. It is
too good to be true ninety nine point nine percent times.
But yeah, just keep on the lookout for deals and
shop local. I am finding a lot of good deals

(01:14:53):
locally on bicycles and you know, hand crafted items and
stuff that you know that it's just as cool as
a big screen TV. I think with all the years
you and I have talked, you know, Black Friday, I
think all of us have enough TVs in our house
and we don't need any more TVs where we're gonna
put them, right.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
Yeah, that's true. I have a wall or two there
might be open, so we'll just see exactly how that goes.
Got adeal dot com you can find out more about
saving and it's selling. Filmnews dot com two, which is
the other site with the combination of all kinds of stuff, right.

Speaker 6 (01:15:26):
Yeah, we have selicfilmnews dot com where we do film
reviews and we cover film festival coverage. And then we
also too have seleakfilm News on YouTube where we have
Larry King style sit down interviews with all of these
wonderful independent filmmakers. A lot of great films came out
this year and there's a lot of creative energy. There's
a good sit down interview with Rippincindar for Flight one

(01:15:49):
eighty two, which is a short film narrative short film
about the Flight one eighty two disaster nineteen eighty five,
who the filmmaker Ripping has a close Hi's family ties.
It but just a lot of great stuff out there,
a lot of great movies on these streaming services this
holiday season, so you know, catch a movie and does
not catch a movie in person, because he's theaters did

(01:16:11):
your business as.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
Well, that's true. An that big thing of popcorn and
a super sized doctor Pepper. So I have to get
my own catheter as a part of it. Consis you
gotta be careful. You get like a gallon of soda
or whatever it is, and then you get a two
and a half hour movie. It's it's tough when you
get to be a guy of a certain age, don't you.

Speaker 6 (01:16:25):
It is and you say dr Pepper, you're from Texas.
I mean that's a Texas drink. Dr Pepper.

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
I mean I liked Texas, but no, I've not never
yet had a chance to call it home. I appreciate
you making time. We're dead out of it though, Deb
Shapiro gotadeal dot com. Take care of yourself and we'll
catch up again sooner than later.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
My man, you too, Happy holidays.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
Happy holidays, more Sterling coming back. Sorry I'm a little
bit late. Don't hate me. Eleven't third report straight away
seven hundred wlw L after along Sterling hanging out by
Thursday night at Nation Station seven hundred WLW. Dan Carol
often here this time, but he was a during the day,
so I'm here now back again Friday night. That's tomorrow,

(01:17:03):
following Crosstown shootout basketball bear Cats Musketeers at Sentas seven
thirty tip off. I will follow it here. Talk to
Terry Nelson, earlier basketball bear Cat broadcaster. He does a
little of everything. He was there for the final four
for those bear Cats in the early nineties. Always a
great conversation. Listen to the podcast later about that. Dave

(01:17:23):
Hatter of course cybersecurity joining Dev Shapiro looking for deals
from godadeal dot com. All that after the podcast posts
following the show leading into America's Truck of Network, which
follows me with Kevin Gordon behind the wheel. Appreciate you
being along. It's been a wild night. Anderson's raptors fell unfortunately,

(01:17:46):
unless you're an Avon Eagles fan. And actually I think
an eagle was actually a raptor too, right, It's a
different type of killer bird. I know that my mother
is watching multiple eagles nests now in Australia as well
as here in the United States. As these birds either
taking care of babies or otherwise. But Avon thirty seven,

(01:18:07):
Anderson twenty and just an incredible year all the way
around for Anderson as well. But the congratulations to Avon
for doing what they did tonight Saint X and all
in Tangy Orange tomorrow night looking for Ohio State High
school football championship that starts earlier. So what have results
for that if not during the crossdown shootouts? Certainly following

(01:18:30):
what else tonight? Oh Thursday night football, Cowboys fall thirty
forty four, Lions all over them up in Destois or Detroit,
depending But it was a French name, Dytoa, That's what
they called it. Just so you know, not that I'm
like mister French, although I did take French in high
school at one of my five high schools, and I

(01:18:52):
did not retain much. What I have you can't really
say openly because it's probably bad words. I just know
that my French teacher was mochen Hot and I was
distracted way too much.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
Either way.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
Lions now seven and five and Cowboys I think six
and five, so a great game earlier if they had
a chance to check that out. Let's see what else.
Oh uh, I want to. You know, there's always talk,
I mean, the wonder our Olympics are coming up, and
I am always interested in the new sports, the new activities,

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the new endeavors of competition that are brought into the fold,
often their exhibition sports or activities or competitions, and then
the ones that are really successful they sort of bring
into the fold. They did that with snowboarding and a
lot of other stuff in relation to that too. I
don't know that this will ever get there, but I
am enamored by this. I have never heard of this

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what I'm about to tell you, and I find it
interesting beyond no compare. I like the water, I like
the sea, I like the I like to eat fish.
I like to scuba dive. I've gone diving and actually
caught my own lobster who grabbed it actually, which seemed
really weird, but it was tasty after, so you know,

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that's the way it goes. And done some fishing that
way as well. This is wild chess event underground. A
guy by the name of Neeman. He's an American and
his name's Hans Neeman. He yesterday won the underwater chess

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exhibition at the freestyle Chess Grand Slam Finals in Cape Town,
South Africa, where the world's top tier players have gathered
before this big event. They call it diving chess. It
was created or devised at some point. I'm sure someone

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had done it someplace else at some time, but back
in twenty twelve by an inventor by the name of
ETN Illfield or Illfeld in London, who is the guy
behind mind Sports Olympiad apparently, and this is from Reuters.
There's all kinds of different events or whatever else. Now,

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if you've done some swimming, whether it's in the summertime,
or maybe you go to the y or belong to
a club, or you got an indoor pool, some high
schools certainly do. I have friends that have been competitive
swimmers and so forth. I remember going to a lore
center and Dayton when I was a kid coming up,
hanging out with my cousins, and we would throw coins,
and they had these other weighted items they would toss

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into the pool, and then we would spend time going
down and retrieving them and trying not to get stuck
in the drain, which occasionally hear horrible stories about. It
never occurred to me that I would play a board
game under the water in the pool. I kind of
see this as maybe being a pay per view event.

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I don't know, I may be kind of crazy, but
I'm thinking of like all the other things, it could
be brought into the fold that you could do underwater.
And there's a lot of people got married underwater.

Speaker 7 (01:22:05):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
They used to have the idea a couple of locations
they You even do a search on YouTube or whatever
old films of the people with these hotels where you
would be underwater in an area where obviously there was
air that was enclosed, but you could get out and
do other stuff, and you'd see people do things. This
is wild. There is a raining World Diving Chess Champion
by the name of mcl Masquerades. It was there but

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only as an advisor in the midst of this. If
these guys were playing chess matches can take a long time,
my guess is they were able to like dive down.
Because I haven't seen the video, I've just seen still
photos of this. You see the chess board with the
timer like clicker on the floor the bottom of the
pool and someone just diving down. They make their move.

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I guess they come up, get air. The next player
comes down, and I'm guessing they give them maybe a
little bit more time to sort of figure it out.
But players from all over the world. Is Bekastan, I mean,
it's an odd place, but from there in India and
a bunch of other places, Germany and so forth, or
into this. So perhaps there's a future in underwater chess.

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When I went to write State, I took rocks for
Jocks who was geology. I had a choice of the sciences.
I could have taken biology or chemistry, but I'd done
that in high school. I went for the underwater basket
weaving that was one of mine in radio and then
some other stuff. But it never occurred to me that
you could do chess underwater. That's pretty wild. I'm just

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wondering would that be something you'd watch? And I would
imagine you could wager on that. I mean, you can
bet on all sorts of stuff. I don't know how
above board all of it is. And you know, you
hear about all these corruption of different things in one
type or another, But I mean, I find this oddly
interesting in gauwker type of like the behavior and so forth,
compared to some of the other stuff that's out there.

(01:23:55):
This is good. You can you know, you can wager
on like table tennis, don't call it ping pong. The
table tennis players of the world that are serious about
this don't like it when you somehow like lower it
to a level of what we may do in our
basement or maybe in like you know, the garage or
whatever else that you if you're into the ping pong,

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or at least you call it the ping pong, they
frown on that. They think it's somehow demeaning or somehow
not top notch. I mean, I could play checkers maybe competitively.
Chess not so much. I mean in multi layered chess anyway,
not for me, but regular chess maybe I could get by.
But then you got to hold your breath and you've
got to maintain your you know, your level, to stay
at the bottom of the pool, make the move and

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come back up, and keep it all in your head.
A lot of different wheels moving all at the same time,
which seems maybe a little bit beyond my capabilities. But
maybe there could be a future in it. Could be
it could be one of those trial sports exhibitions in future,
if they were ever going to bring it into it,
and apparently they already have the Chess end of it altogether.

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So there is that at Sterling Radio one X. If
you want to get interactive, you can certainly do that.
Do you remember the movie it? I know there's like
what is a dairy deal or whatever? I think, I
don't know, one of the streaming things. I know it's
in my list now. It's like an episodic thing about
that whole thing that started out as a Stephen King

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novel if I'm not mistaken, and then has gone into
multiple iterations. Subsequently, there's a guy who was convicted of
wearing a clown mask, which creeps a lot of people
out for a whole host of reasons. Crown clowns are
generally just creepy and make me uncomfortable and unnerved in general.
And it might go back to my time going to
the circus as a kid and having them like run

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up on me in my grill, in my face, and
I'm like, you need to get away. And you see
kids sometimes and they get in that close proximity. Things
are way different in the way you interact. And this
story out of Albany, New York, or at least nearby
All County, not far from where the Bengals will be
playing the Bills sooner than not in Buffalo, much shorter

(01:26:06):
drive than here. There's a guy thirty five years old
who was found guilty of first degree menacing, third degree
criminal possession of a weapon going back to the first
of May. He was sentenced for February sixth, apparently is
when that hearing is going to be. We'll see how
long he goes away, could be up to seven years.

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In the lock up, he had a chainsaw and he
was wearing a clown mask, which is just creepy and
uncomfortable and apparently was menacing people, very threatening and involved
in some type of near fisticuff's kind of engagement with
somebody else. He wore that to clown mask. He had
a football jersey on in a red chainsaw in the

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middle of the afternoon, which apparently he was engaging people
or people were like, hey, dude, what are you doing.
He also apparently supposedly had metal knuckles in some other stuff,
which is pretty disturbing, and took off the plastic sheath
from one of a better way to describe it, off
of the blade of the chainsaw and then you know,
it was quite threatening, and if you've ever worked with

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the chainsaw, you know it does quick work of like
trees and stumps and stuff like that. My guess is,
you know, wielding that in general is not a good idea.
I mean, I remember it wasn't that long ago. It
was like a pitchfork that was used in crime somewhere
in the Try State. I remember talking about it, and

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then there was somebody else that had like a machete.
And occasionally you hear about these lunatics that use these
old school weapons to engage each other. You know, knifings
are back too, people getting stabbed, But you don't hear
much about the way of clowns carrying chainsaws, thankfully, because
sleeping is hard enough to dream about a creepy clown
with the chain saw chasing people through the streets. Better

(01:27:53):
in New York than here, and certainly better the guys
locked up and looking to go away for at least
two years, but could go away for much longer than that.
That's that's pretty wild. That's all I have to say
about that. Straight away, your a midnight report. We'll see
if it's another tandem tag team news event. Travis Laird,
maybe Lee Mallen. I don't know who's got next. Maybe
they'll do it together as they did just at the

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top of the or the bottom of the hour following
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