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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
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That's got your That's not cool, Kies, it's a different guy.
I tell you what.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Kezy came in today and it was like he literally
rolled out of bed.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I haven't been in bed. I wish I'd been in bed.
That's the issue.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I had a big night last night, didn't you.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I didn't have a small night.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Talk about that. I look in a little bit sleepy,
a little bit. I've been on the pess. If I'm
honest with you, how do you how very especially when
I know what a big day you hear today, Keys,
huge day, the huge morning that you're head in front
of you today. I hope you didn't put that at risk.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Mate. It went great. Sure, guess what were you having
a few beers last night? I was literally like this
is going to help because tomorrow I have to be tired,
and I was fucking tired.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
It was great.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I loved it. It's called method acting. It was so
I was like, here we go. Now I'm gona start
hitting the bttle all the time.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
That's where it started for Jason.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah, I reckon, you know, if they're I always wondered
if there was a scene where you had to be drunk.
Was my attitude was, well, let's get drunk, but of
course directors are like, no, no, obviously we won't do that.
You have to pretend to be drunk.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
And the opportunity though, and that's where.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
You see the worst acting is when people try and
be drunk, like when you go, I'm very good at
being drunk because what what the big mistake that can make.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
To the Lispeg son of Jason is pitting himself on the.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Being drunk, because the big mistake that most people make
when they're pretending to be they're two, they're way over
the top with it. Instead of being slow and just
slightly off kilter, they try to go.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Right. It's like no, no.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
The thing with drunk people, Jace as they're trying to
act like they're not drunk.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Correct, thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
So he was just trying to cover her app all
the time was that it just then there was a
little bit of it just it's very subtle.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Keysy, So you hungover? Is that the point? No, I'm
not hungover. I had four beers. Oh really, I was
just we were just up late. We didn't get home
till midnight because after how because we had the slippy
Chisher Island screening which my wife used to work for
TV ands in. All of her friends still work there
and invited me just so that i'd bring her as
a plus one and they can hang out with her,
(02:38):
which is fair enough. But then afterwards they we all
meet up at a bar and had a few drinks
for a week while.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
They don't have drinks there, No, they did before all right,
yeah before the screening.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Hohen I had a beer? Yes, Jace. Yeah. God.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
It's just so much free pess around Magie these days,
missing out massive industry.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I don't think, yeah, you know, you out. The thing
is we're not hitting the purse constantly. There's just a
beer or two here, you know, here or there. You're
not here there yeah here, well there yeah yeah, yeah,
it's a tragedy.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Anyway. How'd it go?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
The callback? Yeah? Okay, So for those who don't know,
got an audition? Did the audition? Then you need a
call back, which I believe is about four or five people. Yeah,
might be less I mean, who knows you. And so
that happened and you go back and I was like, shit,
I wonder what we have to do today? Literally the
same thing again, just with a different person, once again
holding a little small handicam. Yeah, you're in front of
(03:39):
a wall. The weird thing about this one is obvious.
I'm not going to give away what it is all
what I had to do, but it involves me being
part of a relationship and a family. And so you
arrive and there's like a a person, mid twenties person there,
and it's just like, this is your partner. Ah, hello,
so we're gonna we love each other, do it? Okay?
(04:00):
And then a lady walked in with her like three
year old daughter, and I was like, that's obviously my daughter,
isn't it. Yeah, And so it was this weird thing
where you were like meeting all the people who you
might be having this family with and then you say,
all right, well, hopefully see you next time after ten
minutes of being there.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, yeah, it random. Anybody else there in the waiting room.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
One dude as I walked out, Yeah, just one dude.
But there was the only other people in the waiting
room where the people going for the like you know,
the parents of the little kid. Yeah, yeah, you know.
So yeah, interesting though, really a good times. It takes
me back afterwards. I was thanks, ey, that's my first
ever callback, and they're oh great, did really well? Yeah,
(04:41):
thanks thanks for that, thanks mate. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
It is the weird aspects of acting is when you
get those scenarios where you meet a total stranger and
then have to act together and pretend like your lovers
or whatever there, it can be quite strange.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I had one.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
What I think it was for hard Courts and just
had to go in. I don't know why. I didn't care,
but I really didn't and I just had so much
fun and got the role. And then that was with
Jackie van Beek. She be my wife. It was my
first time meeting her. And Renee Lyons was the real
estate agent. Right. Yes, it was just all improv of
(05:23):
the whole thing, and none of our dialogue was used
in the edit because it just had music playing over
the top of it. And so it's like our relationship
with our real estate agent over the years as we
went through the years and got bigger homes and moved
around and stuff. But because we knew that we could.
They couldn't hear what we were saying. We were you know,
it wouldn't be used in the air. We'd be saying
the most horrendous ship to each other. Yes, get a Susan,
(05:45):
you're fucking slut A three way. There was a lot
of fun.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Well, this one's like, it's really poorly, it's short.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Let's that going for Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Sure, So it's just like literally over and then there's
probably five second graphic at the end of it or something.
So literally yes, which is a nice way to start. Yeah,
I don't have to improv, you know, although I'm it's fine,
I'm ready to improve. It's actually really helpful.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Though.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
The thing that it's been interesting is when doing something
and you become self aware. Do you guys have that
we are, Yeah, yeah, I can be south aware. Sure.
So it's like, okay, so this time is we're gonna
film that will just be a close up of you,
my female partner, that's just close upon you. It cools
to do the scene. Okay, you do the scene. It
was all right, Chris, Now that's just gonna be close
(06:36):
up on you. So they focus it on you and
you're like okay, actually and then you're just like, sure,
this is the one they'll be like looking at this
is like, yes, I probably do a bit, and this
is all why you're trying to just do it. And
I've been nailing it until they they're focusing on you.
You do your best work off camera.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, so that's yeah, that's something I appreciate. There happens
to me when I'm doing stand up too. When I
was about to start last week when I was to
stand up, just I was about to start, I know
exactly how to start every time, and I just forgot it.
And I was just like, I'm on stage in front
of it people here, and I can't remember ship. Yeah,
and so I just like stood there for like two
(07:14):
seconds and then it came back to me. Those starts.
Oh god, horror. Self Aware The.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
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Speaker 2 (07:28):
The Mind Blank. Do you do it on the radio?
What becomes self aware when you're about to go live?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
No, I often have a mini panic attack before I go,
but just you know, random one that will happened just before.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I go live, like the first break of the show.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yes, the very first one. Oh, yeah, I'll just forget.
Oh that's right, I'm doing a radio show. Concentrate, concentrate,
for God's sake. But no, I sat in your head,
which I've already told you guys about. In the he
had a terrifying moments of utter blankness at the start
of a play.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
For example, I'm not good. I'm i'd ever do like
a play or anything. Yeah, Like, it's too far down
the acting route for me.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
You don't play? Yeah, plays, I need one? Yeah, I
did one, and it was I didn't want to. It
was just like a guy. A guy got hired in
the lead and then he got cast in a TV show,
so obviously he took the TV shows at Circle down
in Wellington. I must have told you about this, Jay
and then and then the director ragged me up ward
(08:35):
work with on TV shows and he was like, you
gonta do a play man you wonder And I was like,
absolutely not. And it was the lead role. And I
had eight days to learn a ninety five page script.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Fuck that.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
And I was in every single scene. I think it
had one scene off. It was a three hander. Yeah,
And so I was like, yeah, right out right right,
yeah did that? And I learned. It was even probably less,
I think, because don't know, if you know Jason White,
the hector, was yeah, so he was very well too
briefly and he's like, nah, piece of person.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Man.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I used to learn like thirty pages a day, and
I was like, oh sweet. So then I was learning
twenty twenty five pages a day, so I was like yeah,
and just just did it because you had to.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
And then I really loved it, really loved it. But
it was like it was twenty eight performances or something
across a month round about and.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Did you do them all?
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
And then but then I found jas that you get
like after five or six, Okay, i'll get it over it.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yeah, you're done.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah. I didn't get but I didn't really find the
reward and going again and again and again and finding
something else. I did like the fact that if you
had an idea, you could go oh great, And we've
spoken about that before. When you do a TV thing
or a film thing, you often have your best ideas
when you're driving home. Ah, I should have done that. Yeah,
but with a player, you can go, well, I try
(09:56):
that tomorrow, and more often than not, you try it
and it sucked.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Yes, it just becomes a job. I remember we had
this legendary situation. It was I wasn't in the play.
It was before my time, but we had that exact
scenario where the main lead in our school play got
sick and like really sick. And this guy I remember,
I still remember his name, Graham Perdoh, who was the coolest.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Seriously, he was the coolest dude.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
He used to have an umbrella and just walk around.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
He was.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Today and yeah, he was in the seventh form and
I think I was in the fourth form or something.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
He was just a very cool dude.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
The day before it opened, he took over the role
without any you know, they said, Graham, do you want
to do it?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
And he did it and it was brilliant and learnt
it all in a day. Did swing's umbrella around?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
No, But he was just one of those really cool cats.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
It's quite good, isn't. It's good to have done. I
don't know if I would do again.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
So what was the saying yes?
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Because I was scared play?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Right, So if I'm scared of it, I have to
say yes. If the only reason you're not doing something
is because you're scared of doing it, then you have
to say yes, I don't know that. If you're scared
of failure and that's what's stopping you, you have to do.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
But what if it's something that is literally nothing to
do with anything you're interested in doing because it was
acting and you were scared. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
If it's like fucking you want to fix his car
or go for a really long walk, then yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I don't know if I would do a play again.
I've done quite a few.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I'd like something, a real good one, like what are
the classics? JA?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Certainly not Shakespeare, Billy Elliot.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah, no, I don't think I want to do Shakespeare.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Gary Glenn Ross.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I'd like that one Blood Brothers plays.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Yeah, well, I'm waiting for gott I saw that one
with McCallen. Yes, and who was in it with him?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
That's a fucking random place, don't remember.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Oh, I just.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Wasn't Patrick Stewart, I don't think. And then I'd never
I'd never heard of the play. I was like twenty,
I don't know how old I was. And it's not short, no,
And you're sitting there watching it and it was about
an hour fifteen into it and I was like bitless,
fucking god, I was not even going to turn Yeah,
(12:13):
and so it proved, But fuck that was boring.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Well so was Beckett.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yeah, the writer, he's brilliant but kind of a pretty
tedious character. It is biography right, well, no order, no biography.
He's a pretty grim, stolic, boring dude.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah. Most most people that you guys act words, right,
do they do plays?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
I have acted?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
It's a split yeah yeah back in the day. Yeah
about like back for example, back when Brokenwood was still going,
did any of those because that's like a serious program,
did any of those actors do plays? Yeah? Yeah, quite
a few of them, right, Okay? Is it like a
thing that you do when you're not And then.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
There's unfortunately there's not a lot of theater around really.
I mean there's you know, Auckland Theater Company. I think
that's still going, isn't.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
It, and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
There's there's not huge opportunities.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
I was actually a basement as amateur theater, and they
do some good stuff, but they're really short runs.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yes, I did actually get asked a couple of times
to do those plays, but I don't know why attend now,
Probably because I was too terrified.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
They're terrifying and also horrendously paid my experience anyway, because
very much. They set it up as a co op,
so you get a percentage of the door, and I
think I did. What was that month? I got like
four hundred bucks or something?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah, shit the fuck? Yeah. Wow.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
You're not in it obviously for the money, but do
be nice to have more than that.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
It's better than like, you know, Johnny and I going
and doing tours around the country and then fucking owing money.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Because you're on the hammele. And that was the problem
with the theater, is that you could just run a
tab on the bar and then at the end of
the yes and then one else I think on the
cast owed money.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
That great.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
That great autobiography I told you about with Barry Humphrees
and oh yeah, called More Please. He's got some magnificent
stories of doing plays and ship and getting heavily on
the pest all the time, and doing a scene and
running off to the bar and having a quicktion and
and then running back on again.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
It was great stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Unreal, wasn't yeh Man back in the day.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah, but no, like if I was approached, it's very elegant,
isn't she?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
If I was approached eyes to the front, are you
kidding me?
Speaker 1 (14:35):
In fact, I think it was approached not long ago,
but I can't remember what.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
It was for, but probably moved along, sir.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yeah, that would be my party, which is very elegant.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Yeah you'd know that. So what I was gonna ask
before is would you rather, with a week's notice, do
a fight, a boxing fight or a play?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
At my age of play a play? Yeah, I was
too old any any injury. I sustained that I'd.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Die if I had a fight. Yeah, there's two minutes.
I'd have a heart attack. Let's use that excuse again.
Old Kizy will do it for you. Yeah, Jas will
sign up for it. That old up. That's that's a
true story. Uh today, Hey Hidarky Big show four or
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seven weekdays. It's super good. Check it's so good. It's
so elegant.