Episode 258: The Mystery of Royal Rife's "Healing Machines!"

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do at home, and a lot more on this edition
of the show, The Mystery of Royal Rife's Healing Machines.
Have you ever heard of a Rife machine? I was
surprised because when I was a very young man and

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I started looking into all of these sort of controversial
and obscure machines and technologies often used for quackery purposes.
Back in medical old medical days. Occasionally someone would say, hey,
have you ever studied a Rife machine? That's RFE. Royal

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Rife was a man who invented this machine. I'm going
to tell you about him in a minute. And I
had never really dug into it until a few years later.
I ended up becoming friends with a medical doctor here
in the US who is highly credentialed. As a matter

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of fact, he's a surgeon, and he started coming to
some of my programs and then we became friends, and
then we ended up doing some trips together. And I
mean this was a serious, established doctor who'd won all
kinds of awards, and I was surprised when he told
me that he believed that rife machines could work, and

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in fact have worked, and he's seen the evidence of this.
And I was like, really, that was a big surprise
to me. And so at that point I started looking
a little more deeply into it. But I've never really
talked about it on this show before. And that's because,
as you know, I always tiptoe around these topics that
have to do with healing or medical stuff. I have

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zero medical background. As a matter of fact, I have
my own roster of medical problems. So I am the
last person that you should ever try to take medical
advice from. And even though I'm a strong proponent of manifestation,
I do realize that there are limits and you don't
want to give people false hope because guess what, We're

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not going to live forever, and so eventually, no matter
how well you treat yourself, your body is going to
have to break down and die. And so I prefer
not to address that because I'm just not qualified to
do it. So consider that a disclaimer. Because this concept, however,
goes beyond some kind of like magical healing machine. There

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actually may be something that something to this. You'll see
what I mean, I hope. Okay, let me tell you
first about who this guy was, Royal Rife, and I'll
just give you the facts, ma'am, just the facts. He
was an American born in eighteen eighty eight and he

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died in nineteen seventy one at the age of eighty three,
so he had a pretty long life. He was born
in Nebraska and died in El Cahoone, California. He was
an American inventor and an early promoter of this thing
called high magnificient high magnification, time lapse senna micrography. This

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is why I can't drink liquor before I do this show.
Time lapse senna my crography. So here's what that means. Okay,
you know, time lapse is when you, let's say, somebody
wants to take a video of the stars moving across
the sky. And so what you do is you set

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up your camera and then every so often the camera
will take a picture of the sky. The camera stays stationary,
but the sky is moving around it. And so the
next morning you can go back and you can watch
your footage and what you see is fast motion of
all the stars moving across the sky. So this allows

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you to see very small movements in real time much
more clearly because you're seeing than condensed into a shorter span.
And so my understanding is, and I'm not an expert
on anything that I'm going to tell you about in
this show, because we're learning together, but my understanding is
that he was claiming that he had developed a special

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microscope that could observe live micro organisms with an enormous magnification.
I mean, I'm talking to magnification considered impossible for his
time and he could film them using a time lapse
camera so that he could see how these micro organisms

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would behave over time. And by doing that he realized
sort of more about their patterns, how they would grow,
and he got to familiarize himself with all these different
types of organisms that eventually may create negative effects disease

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and health conditions. And then he started taking different types
of electromagnetic fields similar to I guess what we would
call a radio wave, and he would target these different
types of bacteria and microorganisms and even things like cancer

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cells and all that. And he believed that if you
could just take your time through trial and error and
you scan through with your tuning machine there, eventually you'll
find a frequency that matches that cell or that organism

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and destroys it. Think of this as being like an
opera singer holding a wine glass. Everybody in the whole
audience can be screaming at that thing and nothing happens
to it, but the opera singer hits the right note
and boom, the glass shatters. This is what he called

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an organism's mortality oscillation rate, also known as mor SO.
He believed that all organ and to a certain extent,
all microscopic things. All organisms had a resonant frequency that
could destroy them, and all you had to do was

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create this sort of catalog of well, here's the frequency
that kills this thing, and then you target that thing whatever,
that whatever it's causing, that disease or that sickness, that element,
that cancer, you target it with these frequencies and it
will start destroying it. That was his theory. And you

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know what, and in the beginning, a lot of people
who were in the scientific field said that he might
be onto something with this thing he called oscillating beam ray,
this invention that he said could treat various elements by
quote devitalizing disease organisms end quote using radio waves. And

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he came to collaborate with a variety of scientists, doctors,
and inventors. His findings were published and some pretty impressive
papers and scientific journals like the Smithsonian Institution Annual Report
of nineteen forty four. But the more people experimented with

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these the more people began to roll their eyes and
say they thought this was some kind of quackery device.
And later those findings in his work were rejected by
the American Medical Association, the American Cancer society and mainstream science.

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Now to this day, you can find some of these
rife machines out there. Over the years, a lot of people, however,
have gone to prison for selling what they are claiming
as a machine that can heal things that it can't heal. So,
to this day, RYO has supporters who say that these
impulses of electromagnetic frequencies can disable cancerous cells and other

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micro organisms responsible for disease. Most of these claims, according
to the scientists, have no real scientific research to back
them up, and rife machines are not approved for treatment
by any health regulator. Multiple promoters have been convicted of
health fraud and sent to prison, so you should know

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that as we continue. But when we come back from
our break, I want to tell you a little bit
more about his life and work, and then I want
to sort of give you my outlook on this on
whether or not there actually may be something to this,
if maybe the guy was not as much of a

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quack as they thought. After all, he never went to prison.
I believe that he thought a lot of people were
taking his deal and maybe exaggerating it and misusing it.
So you'll see what I think about that. And again.
You know, it's like I don't usually talk about health stuff,
but to be honest with you, I'm not getting any younger.
So I look into these things and you probably will

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let's get back to the main topic here, Royal Rife's
Rife Machine. You know, there are scientists out there who
a lot of them actually, who will turn up a
nose at you and say there's no way you can
be a scientist, and unless you graduate from a school

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and you have a proper degree and training and science
and proof and blah blah blah blah. But in reality,
everybody can be a scientist in my opinion, as long
as you follow the scientific method. Science is not a
belief system. It's a method of exploration. Do you know

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what the six main steps are in the scientific method.
It's amazing how many people who are doing so called
paranormal research don't even know that, and they need to
know it. The first step is to simply enough observe.
You need to personally observe. Don't observe the person who
observed the person who observed the person. No, you need

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to go have your own personal observations and then ask
a question that comes from those observations. Step number two
is to conduct background research, gather information to learn about
what's already supposedly known. Number three is you want to
form a hypothesis, so that means you want to come
up with something that you can test to see if

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what you're thinking may or may not be right. Number four,
you design and conduct an experiment, so you create a
controlled experiment as controlled as possible to test this hypothesis
and see what happens. You want to isolate all the variables.
Number five is to then analyze your data and draw

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some conclusions to examine and see if it supports or
refutes your hypothesis, and then if you think it's insightful enough.
Number six is to communicate your results. You go out there,
you share your findings with others so the experiment can
be replicated by them and verified, and if it's repeatable,

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then you know eventually it will become something that might
even develop into a theory. So that's what we're talking
about when we're talking about people who are supposed to
be using the scientific method, but there's a lot of
subjectivity Unfortunately when it comes to this sort of thing,
and there shouldn't be as much as there is, but
it's I think it's gotten worse due to the Internet

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because there's so much. There's so much out there that
people don't know what to believe anymore. Regardless, here is
my understanding of how a basic rife machine would work.
So let's say you have a box and this box
either has like an antenna on it that will broadcast
a beam, or it may have plates that you can

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hold in your hands or plates that you can step on.
There are different versions that I have seen, and that
you basically have a catalog and there is a frequency.
There is a numbers for each different type of helmet.
There's a number for having a cold, There's a number

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for having the me there's a number for having perhaps
a type of cancer. I mean like there's there's hundreds
of these depending on the type of machine that somebody
is trying to create and promote, and you dial in
that frequency that number on the machine and then you
just sit there and subject your body to it. And

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the idea, from what I understand now is that people
who promoted this and some who still do are claiming
that these frequencies can go in and destroy the bad stuff.
And Uh, in fact, let's see here, I believe there was.

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Oh yeah, I was gonna remind you this kind of
when I was first reading about this. It reminds me
sort of about a show that I did a while
back called What's about Grab of Voy Codes? Do you
remember that Grab of Voy codes? Uh? This These are
codes created by mathematician and metaphysician who I talked about

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them on the air. I told you all about what
they are, and the idea is that there are codes
that are almost like sacred geometry labels for every condition
in life, not just health, but also finance, relationships, overall, success, happiness, bulb,
and that you can go through a process if you

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just find the code for what you need to focus
on at any given time. That code connects you with
that thing and then you can sit there for free
with basically, I mean, all you really need is possibly
a pen and a pad, and you go through a
process of writing this code down and meditating on it,
and then you will attract this thing into your life.
That's what a grab of oaycode supposedly does for you.

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If you don't know what we're talking about. It's a
fascinating concept. Go back and listen to episode two eighteen
of this podcast called Strange Things. That podcast is titled
Grab of oaycodes and and that's spelled grab like I'm
gonna grab your cookie, gr Abo voi, grab a voi codes?

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Can they make you rich? And the pineal gland That
was another part of the show I got into. So
you should go back and listen to that. I bring
this up again because it almost seems to me like
that this is an electromagnetic version of This is a
version of taking something like Grabavoi codes but turning them

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into electromagnetic frequencies that can affect biology and physiology. And
so if we look more into what they say about
his work, basically says like I said. A report published
by the Smithsonian Institution describe one of these microscopes as

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equipped to be transmitted, which equipped for transmitted and monochromatic,
dark filled, polarized. Okay, I'm not going to get into
all that this is a podcast. I'm not trying to
bore you to death, but you can go read about
on your own sort of like the process that he

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went through of taking what he found with the microscope
and turning it into what we call a rife machine.
There are plenty of people out there who claim that
rife machines have been successful in curing anything you can imagine.
I mean, and I don't want to go down the
whole list of it, but what I can tell you

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is that as I look over this entire overview, basically
the consensus was that this just does not work, and
so it became such an issue that people who have

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continued his work have often been legally prosecuted. I mean,
there's a whole list here. It says they're viewed as
pseudo medicine. In Australia, the use of rife machines has
been blamed for the deaths of cancer patients who might
have been cured with conventional therapy. In two thousand and two,

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John Brian Krueger, who operated the Royal Rife Research Society,
was sentenced to twelve years in prison for his role
in a murder, and also received a concurrent thirty month
sentence for illegally selling rife devices. In two thousand and nine,
a US court convicted James Folsom of twenty six FALON

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accounts for the sale of the rife devices sold as
I guess different names like nature Tronics or Astropulse or BioSolutions,
Energy Wellness, and Global Wellness. That's according to Wikipedia. So people,
basically you might be buying what is essentially a rife machine,
but you don't know that it's a rife machine, because

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people will take this concept of this technology and then
they'll apply a different name to it. So I have
not experimented with a rife machine in particular. I have
experimented with a lot of other electromagnetic devices, and I
have pointed a lot of them at myself to see
what happens. Personally, I've never been interested in medicine. I'm

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the kind of guy who got grossed out dissecting the
frog in high school. But I do know a lot
about electromagnetism, more than the average person. And so when
we come back, I can't believe it's already break time again.
When we come back, I'm going to give you sort
of my outlook right now on how we should view
this royal rife legacy and what it may or may

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not mean for the future. Then we're going to move
along to something completely different, maybe not completely different. I
want to tell you something about the Mendela effect that
I've recently noticed. Maybe you have to this will be interesting.
I'm Joshua Waopee Warren. You're listening to Strange Things on
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And this is the show where the unusual becomes usual.
All right, So here is where I am on this topic.
And I am a guy who has never formally experimented

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with a so called Rife machine or similar design professionally made,
you know, per se. But I think it's very interesting
that nowadays we live in a world in which it's
common to disinfect things using UV light. And you know

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this is this is not debatable. If you use properly
ultraviolet radiation, which is just electromagnetic radiation like Rife was
talking about, it can be used to destroy indoor byline
logical pollutants, viruses, bacteria, molds. I mean that's coming from

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the EPA website, so I mean all kinds of pathogens,
so fungus, and to me, it seems like that Reich
may have been ahead of this time, that the concept
has some substance, the idea that you can use certain

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electromagnetic frequencies or radiation in order to kill certain microscopic
things or alter them in some way that is beneficial.
And you know, I didn't really start seeing a lot
of this UV sanitizing stuff used until at least in

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my neck of the woods by maybe like twenty years ago.
But it turns out if you look at the history,
I asked, I went to GROC, I said, rock, when
did you start really being recognized as something that could
kill germs and stuff? Going all the way back to
eighteen seventy seven, there were British scientists Arthur Downs and

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Thomas Blunt who published the first study demonstrating that sunlight
which has UV inhibits bacterial growth, and that laid the
groundwork for understanding UV's anti microbial properties. In nineteen thirty six,
in my home state of North Carolina, high intensity UV

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was first used to disinfect a hospital operating room at
Duke University, dramatically reducing post operative infections. And so the
list goes on I mean, so it's not like there
is absolutely nothing to this concept of using electromagnetic fields

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to destroy microscopic, microscopic problematic things. But I just think that,
you know, so, he may have been on the right track,
but it's possible that he again, he was ahead of
his time. He did not have enough technology, fundamental technology,

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in order to achieve what he was theoretically trying to achieve.
But that doesn't mean that it won't happen someday. I
envision that there may come a point where scientists turn
right around and say, Okay, we've had a breakthrough and
this is no longer science fiction. We can do this
now because everything in the world is made of electromagnetic fields,

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any everything that you consider physical and non physical, So
why does it not seem possible that there might be
an opposing electromagnetic field that can disrupt it and destroy it.
So I have no reason whatsoever to believe that any

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rife oriented type product on the market today will do
anything for you at all. But I do think that
this is something that should be looked more into, more deeply,
and that we we might go back at some point
as a society and say, well, this guy had a
good idea and now we can actually implement it and

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turn it into something real. But unfortunately there were there
are always people who will take something like that and
twist it around and abuse it and use it to
use it for their own selfish purposes. But when you
know Rife died, they say he was basically penniless and obscure.

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It's one of those things. And like I say, a
lot of people went to prison for using his devices,
but not him. So does that make sense to you
that maybe they're there is something to this concept of
using electromagnetism to treat these things, but we're just not
there yet. If you know otherwise or you think otherwise,

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you're always welcome to send me an email. I read
everyone if I can. I try my best. Sometimes it's
impossible to do that, and I reply to as many
as I can. You can always email me through Joshua
Pwarren dot com. When you look at technology in general, though,
I must tell you, you hear in the news all

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the time about the wonders and the crazy things that
we can do with AI. And who knows what AI
will will figure out for us. AI will probably be
the thing that figures out how to how to turn
a rife machine into a real device. But I can
tell you that just as a civilian at my level,

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with no special access to any kind of AI tech
companies or whatever, I subscribe, I actually pay money every
month to subscribe to certain AI services that I use
mainly for media and fun stuff, sometimes to make little movies.
If you're a part of my Facebook page, you might
see them sometimes. And AI at this point is not

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as great as they make it out to be. Trust me,
I don't want to get into the tech technical aspects
of it. But like if you I fought you it
was watched the news, you'd be like, oh, AI is
already there the site. You know, the world's being taken
over by the Terminator Corporation, and you know we're all doomed,
and you know what we probably are there probably will

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come a day when some kind of computer will take
over all the other computers, but we're not there yet.
It's not as easy to use as you think. Sometimes
I'll go to an AI program and I'll give a
very simple description for an image that I want to create,
and it just doesn't get it, and I'm like, what
this is? Like one of the most advanced AIS you
can buy, and it takes me ten minutes or more,

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and sometimes then I get it and I have to
turn around and put it into something else and process it.
So I would not say that AI is as amazing
as you may have been led to believe. So not
to say it won't get there. But you know, the
world is a very complex place. It's moving at lightning speed.
I did a show recently about my visit to the

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Ice Age Fossils Museum, where you're looking at these creatures
that lived thousands of years ago, and not to mention creatures,
you know, there are remains of creatures from millions of
years ago, and you just realized your life is just
a tiny blip. Whatever your life is, good or bad,

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it's a tiny blip. So try not to take it
for granted. My book Used the Force tries to help
you with with simple tips on that, and you can
read that for free if you go to my website.
But you know, here's something I'll just stay up toss
this out here as a bit of my philosophy, something

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that I believe. I think. I think that there is
a dimension on which and in which everything and everyone
you have ever loved is infinitely and eternally connected, and
we humans can barely comprehend that dimensional realm, but the

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fact that we can comprehend it at all is a miracle. So,
whether humans, pets, even plants, this is the dimension where
all of your dead loved ones reside and have actually
always resided, and where you will someday reside too, And
you'll join all of them in this kind of cosmic matrix.

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And you may or may not be able to remember
the past dramas you've all shared, but that doesn't matter,
because you will be with your loved ones again in
the moment present, over and over, just like you have
been this time around. That you are with your loved
ones for all time. And if we are all part

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of this great comprehensive matrix, then it makes us wonder
even more deeply about how that our technology can lead
so quickly, so quickly that something that seems absolutely impossible

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to you today may be possible, you know, within a
year or two. I mean, you just who It's a
big concept, but open you keep your mind open to
the makeup of reality. You know, people talk about this
thing called the Mandela effect. The Mandela effect is the

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idea that well, kay, I first learned about it when
I called it the dead celebrities phenomenon. When I was
a kid, you'd watch TV and they would have a
news report saying some celebrity had died, and I would
swear that was true. And then two or three years later, though,
turns out the celebrity is alive, and I go, what,
that person was dead? And some people started calling this

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the Mandela effect because there were a lot of people
all around the world who believed that the leader Nelson
Mandela had died and have a distinct memory of that.
But no, it turns out he was still alive and
lived for a long time after that. There are lots
of examples of this. I did a show about it
one time, people misremembering logos Supposedly, I mean, like, do

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you how is it fruit of Okay? You know the
underwear with the fruit on it, Fruit of the loom?
Do you remember it having a cornicopia like a horn
of plenty full of fruit? They say it never has.
Do you spell Looney Tunes? How do you spell Looney Tunes?

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A lot of people say it's spelled l O O
n E y, but in fact it's always been what
you second people remember. Okay, let me I want to
make sure. I want to make sure I'm not confused. Okay,

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it's to you n e s. Yeah, it's t u
n e s. It's not t O O in it. Okay,
we're gonna take a break. I'm josh waopee Warren. You're
listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to
Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will be right back.

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Welcome back to the final segment come of this edition
of Strange Things all the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast
AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I am your host, Joshua P. Warren.
And yeah, a lot of people say they remember it
being Looney Tunes spelled t O n s like cartoons,

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but no, it's always been t U n e s now.
If you disagree with that, that's the Mandela effect. Or
how about this, like the monopoly Man, do you think
that you know the guy that the top hat. Do
you think that he wears a monocle or not? Well

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he does not? Or in Star Wars, what does Vader
say when he reveals sorry to spoil this for you,
by the way, when he reveals to Luke that he's
he's the dad. I bet you think he says, Luke,
I am your father, and actually he says, no, I

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am your father. I can give you plenty of examples.
Just go to the internet and search for Mandela Effect.
Plus I did a whole show about this. Just you'll
find it somewhere. I don't have the have it at
my fingertips. Well. I bring this up because when my
family and I, let's see, I'm looking up some information

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here to make sure I got my dates right. There
was a TV show on Animal Planet that aired from
two thousand eleven to twenty fourteen, and it was called
Call of the wild Man, and it followed this guy
primarily they called the Turtle Man and his real name

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Ernie Brown Junior and Turtle Turtle. Turtleman and his friend
Neil and his dog Lollie. They operated this nuisance animal
removal business and they would catch and release nuisance animals
and most of it was filmed near his home in Kentucky.
And my family we loved watching the show. And my

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mom and dad told me just like a week or
so ago that my sister Jessica was going to go
to a festival and she was going to meet Turtleman
there and I said, what, He's dead, and they're like, oh.
I was like, you got to be kidding me. And
I realize boom Mandela effect, because I could have sworn

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that I had this memory and I hate to say
this about somebody who's alive, and I'm just telling you
it's just another example of this phenomenon. I could have
sworn to you that I read that Turtleman had died
long ago, but no, he's very much alive. I don't
know how old he is right now, but I just

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I wanted to toss that out there. I'm curious as
to am I the only person who thought that, because
I haven't heard anybody else bring up him associated with
the Mandela effect. If you also thought that he was dead,
go ahead and send me a message if you'd like,
Let's see how old is How old is Turtle Man?

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Lets see, sixty years old? He's not even that old.
I don't know, And I just I figured i'd bring
it up because nobody else has brought that sort of
thing up. I like to talk about things towards the
end of the show, especially that you might consider well,
I call it mental manna. And these are just things
too to just think about that I personally find interesting.

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And one of my habits, I guess, and this is
not good for you, is a lot of times when
I lay down and I'm trying to fall asleep at night,
I'll watch YouTube videos and they say that, you know,
you should stay away from electronics for like at least
an hour or something before you go to sleep. But

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oh well, I mean, in my particular case, I'm so
I'm practically a cyborg, you know, I'm so attached to
technology working in the field that I work. So I
watch all kinds of videos. I like bushcraft, where you know,
people are going out there and surviving in the wilderness,
or stealth camping, or food eating challenges. And but one

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thing I like to watch is what they call First
Amendment auditors. Do you understand what that's all about, because
you know, I don't talk about politics on this show.
You get too much of that crap every day everywhere
else anyway. But I have to be a big proponent
of the First Amendment. I mean, I live my life
around the First Amendment. We're talking about the freedom of

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speech here and the freedom of the press. You know,
I've lived my whole life supporting that, and if that
ever went away, then that would be I don't know
what I'd have to do it. I'd have to go
get a real job, I guess, learn how to grow
a crop or fish or something. And so I support
the First Amendment very strongly, and I understand the complexities

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of the First Amendment. Well, there are there are these
websites out there, I guess I should say YouTube channels
that are run by First Amendment audit And basically the
concept is, if you are in a public place in
this country, the United States of America, then you have

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the right from what I understand, you have the right
to videotape to record whatever your eyes can see. So
that is to say, if I'm on a sidewalk and
you're on a sidewalk and you come up to me
and say, don't videotape me, will too bad? You know?

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If I continue to do that, then that is my right.
That's what these First Amendment auditors will tell you. And
so what they do is they will go to different
cities all around the country and they will learn the
laws they'll get. I guess it's the gis and they'll
really figure out like, Okay, this is a public area,
this is federal property, this is public with restricts did

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access areas, and they really they figure out where they
have the right to be, and then they go there
and they start filming businesses and government offices and people,
and inevitably somebody gets ticked off about this, and then
you have a big confrontation and so kind of the climaxes.

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They the auditor, they have a big fight, and then
they finally get to educate everybody on the law because
usually you know, law enforcement gets called in law enforcement,
they don't even know. Sometimes they got to look into
it and then they're like, oh, yeah, well you're right,
you can do this, and so there and look, I

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know that there are probably people who do this who
are complete fools and have no idea what they're doing,
and they're just trying to get cheap clicks on YouTube.
So I'm not saying that I endorse this sort of thing,
But there are some out there that I watch a
lot that I like that I actually think are uh

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interesting and do inform people. One of them is called
Ammagansett Press. It's run by a man named Jason and
his son Ben. They come from a town I believe
in New York called Amaganset. I'll spell that for you
A M A g A n s e t T
A M A g A n s e t T.

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Go check out their channel. You'll see what I mean.
I bring this up though, for a particular reason, for
one thing. Uh Jason sometimes he has some knowledge that
I think is interesting to pass along, especially when it
comes to your rights, like why he goes out and
challenges people and informs them. He says, your rights are
like muscles. If you don't use them, they tend to

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go away. That's true. Think about that. He also says,
to have uh to a hand to a hammer, everything
looks like a nail. So that means if you go
out to the public and you meet somebody who's in

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a bad mood, who's looking to start a problem, then
they can create their own reality and they can take
things the wrong way and escalate things. And but I
bring this up like also, if you're not familiar with
like you can record Supposedly in a lot of areas
of a post office, there's a thing called post or

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seven at a US post office that gives that right
to certain people. But anyway, again, I'm not an expert
on this. I just wanted to bring this up. I
noticed I didn't see too many of these auditors, these
First Amendment auditors running around Las Vegas, and I looked
up the Las Vegas Disorderly Conduct law here in Clark County,

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and it says it is unlawful for any person to
engage in any of the following acts of disorderly conduct.
A participate in a fight, be challenge another person to
a fight, s commit a breach of the peace, d
and cite a disturbance, or e interfere with, annoy, accost,

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or harass any other person, which conduct, by its nature
would tend to incite a disturbance. So it sounds to
me like Vegas they've really got their laws down the
pat here where they I'm not sure if that's in
line with the First Amendment, but they're saying like, oh,
if you annoy somebody, that's disorderly conduct, so be careful

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if you come to Las Vegas. I think the laws
operate a little bit differently here. These gangsters and lawyers,
they knew what they were doing when they set this up.
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