August 16, 2024 • 54 mins
Join Sandra as she celebrates her 200th episode of Shades with VERY special guests George Noory, Tom Danheiser & Dannion Brinkley. This episode will inspire you and excite you about your life and the reality of the afterlife!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And you're here.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
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let's start with Chase of the Afterlife with Santra Champlain.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
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your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Hi.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know
that our loved ones have survived physical death and so
will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife and welcome
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to our two hundredth episode celebration. I have three great
guests here to celebrate it with us, including Tom Dan Heiser,
the man who first had the idea of this show,
also New York Times best selling author and three time
near death experiencer Danian Brinkley. But first I'd like to
introduce you to someone who probably needs no introduction. George
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Nori is the host of Coast to Coast AM. His
captivating interviews with fascinating guests are heard by millions of
listeners nightly. He's also the host of the television show
Beyond Belief. He's authored and co authored several books, including
one about the afterlife called Talking to the Dead. And
what he may not know is what a prof found
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difference he has made in my life. George, Welcome to
Shades of the Afterlife.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Sandrew, my pleasure and congratulations on your two hundredth show.
That's amazing, it is, and it.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
So hard to believe that you and Tom had the
faith in me for this show. So thank you on
behalf of all the people listening, because so many people
wouldn't be listening without you.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Now, the first time we heard you, we were impressed
beyond belief, as one would say, and we had to
do something with you. And when we came up with
the Pureanormal Podcast Network, you were a natural for that.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Oh, thanks so much. I remember being beyond belief with
you out there in Colorado, and you had told me
a story why you not only have faith in the afterlife,
but you know the reality of the afterlife. Can I
ask you to share with our listeners why you believe?
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I believe because strange things have happened. And I think
that story I was telling you had to do with
that fire, wasn't it. Yes, I was a little boy.
My mother was raised in Fitchburg, Massachusetts. Her father owned
a furniture company on the bottom of level of a
series of apartments that he had built that he rented
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out to people. And they had two units of an
apartment building that they kind of co created together. So
it was one big place. So my parents were up
on the third floor. I was sleeping on the second level.
Underneath us was the furniture store. Well, in the middle
of the night, I was woken up by a firefighter
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who said, wake up, wake up, get everyone out of
the house. There's smoke in the house. There could be
a fire. There was something was going on in the
furniture store. A mattress had caught fire. So I woke
up sprung out of bed, ran upstairs, got my parents,
got everybody out of the apartment complex. The Fitchburgh set
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in a newspaper took a picture of a little twelve
year old George Nori in his spare feet walking across
the street. And after it was all done, my dad
went up to the fire chief and he said, we
want to thank the firefighter who woke up my son
and got us out of there. And he said, sir,
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we never got into your apartment complex. He said, yes
you did. There was a firefighter with the helmet the mask.
He woke my son up and said, get everybody out
of here. He said, sir, we were only down in
the furniture store where the fire was. We never made
it up to your apartment. What could that be, Sandra.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
An angel? That's somebody from the afterlife and they can
come right in to shake us up and be there
to save our lives. I would say, So, George was
at the beginning of you really looking for what else
is possible because you have had a lifetime of interviewing
great people and really on sharing so much. Is that
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where that love of searching began.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
It didn't begin there, but it sure contributed to it.
The beginning was my mother. She gave me a book
called We Are Not Alone by the late Walter Sullivan,
who was a New York Times science writer, about his
theory that we are not alone in the universe. And
I'm reading this book and I'm fascinated by it. Then
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look magazine, of course to the story on the Barney
and Betty Hill abduction case. I'm fascinated with that. And
I made the decision at a very young age, in
my early teens, I was going to go into broadcasting
and unravel these stories. That's what I wanted to do,
because I said to myself, people who are part of
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these programs, these UFOs and these after life stories will
talk to a journalist before they just talked to George
NORRII picking up the phone. So I decided at that
young age that's what I wanted to do. I wanted
to go in the broadcasting. Now, my dad had other ideas.
He wanted me to become a dentist, and so for
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two years I went to the University of Detroit to
kind of acquiesce his desires of me wanting to become
a dentist, until one day I realized They had a
great broadcast curriculum there, and a friend of mine who
was in that curriculum said, you ought to switch and
come into broadcasting. As a matter of fact, I'm working
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at a TV station right now and I'm going home
for Christmas. They won't let me go unless I find
somebody to replace me. He was just a copyboy, made
two dollars an hour, and I said I'll do it.
So I did, and they kept me, and they kept him.
And I came back and switched my major in the broadcasting.
And my dad got the report cards because he paid
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the college tuition. And when the report card showed up,
he called me downstairs and he said, George, come here.
We need to talk about your report card. I said, yeah, Dad,
what's wrong? He said, well, I got the wrong report card.
I said what do you mean. He said, well, some
kid at your university is a seeing broadcast courses, speech
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classes and all that, but there's nothing here with science
and your dental stuff. We got the wrong stuff. I said, Dad,
I switched my major. He wouldn't talk to me, Sandra
for two months, until one day he was watching a
television newscast on that station. I was working for and
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they would run credits at the end on Friday night
and it popped up George Nori, production assistant, and he
saw my name. He stayed awake until I got home.
Got home about midnight and he said, was that your
name I saw on that station? And I said, yeah, Dad,
that's what I'm doing now, I told you, and he
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loved it ever since.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I bet he did. Similar thing happened when I wrote
my book. My mom was thinking, what is this book?
You know, what do you really have to say? And
she got the very first copy George and I dedicated
to her, and she says, Sandra, you're going to change
the world with this information. So it's wonderful that her
parents believe in us. George, You've heard many stories throughout
the years. Are there any afterlife topics from mediums or
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near death experiences or topics like that that when you
have a guest on you think, ooh, I really like
hearing about that.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I liked the story I got one day from an
individual who called me years ago and said that it
was like during open lines that he called and he
was depressed one day and he didn't know what to do,
so he decided he was going to do himself in,
and he went driving into a small town to try
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to find a place where he was going to kill himself.
And he sat at a park bench overlooking a lake
with ducks that would fit the water and fly out,
and he said, this is where I decided I was
going to shoot myself. And he said, just wasn't. I
was ready to pull on my revolver. This old farmer
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came down and sat next to me and his coveralls,
talking about life. He wouldn't leave me alone. I'm there
to shoot myself, and he's just talking and talking about
people and life and love. And he just talked for
about thirty minutes, shook my hand, got up and left.
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He said, but I got to tell you, George. After
he had done this, I felt so good about myself.
I decided I wasn't going to kill myself. So I
went back to my town, got a new job, got
a relationship. I'm happy. Everything's going right. Decided about a
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year later to go back to that little town to
thank that old man. And I figured the only place
that would know him would be the barber shop. It's
a small little community. So he goes into the barbershop
and says, I'm looking for a guy who looks like this,
this and this and this. And the barber said, oh,
you want to go to the top of the hill
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the white house on the right talk to his daughter,
and he said, okay, I will, and he said, George,
whither was going up to the house. I kind of
had a feeling something had happened to me. I knock
on the door and this girl comes and he said,
excuse me, but about a year ago, I think your
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father saved my life and I just wanted to thank
him for that. She said, well, stop right now, because
you're about the fifth person to come to me in
the last ten years. Dad died ten years ago. That
was chilling.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
It is, George. I've interviewed so many people who have
near death experiences, and they say that we get to
replay our lives from the viewpoint of someone else, and
first we go through some of those things that are
tougher times that we could have made maybe a different decision,
But then we get to see the difference we've made
in people's lives, and it's shown as the ripple effect.
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And I know because I've been a guest on Coast
to Coast am and I've heard your listeners call in.
You give people life, You give people things to think about,
guests to hear new ways of looking at life, and
you really empower them. So I know your day will
not be for many, many years in the future, but
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when it does happen, I think you'll be surprised just
what a difference from that twelve year old boy to now,
the difference that you've made in the life of many.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
And I'll come back on change of the afterlife even
from the other I hope.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
So do you have any last words today for our listeners.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
It's just satt to continue listening to the great job
that you do. And I want to thank you once
again for everything you do on the Paranormal Podcast Network
and again congratulations on your two hundredth show.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Oh George, thanks so much for being our guest today.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
You can visit George of course at Coast to coastam
dot com watch his television show at Beyondbelief dot com.
We're going to go into our first break, but you
may ask yourself who had the great idea for Shades
of the Afterlife In the first place. You'll meet Coast
to Coast AM's Senior producer Tom dan Heiser when we
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get back, as well as three time near death experiencer
and New York Times best selling author Danian Brinkley. We'll
be right back on our two hundredth episode celebration of
Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to
Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.
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Speaker 3 (14:33):
Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain. Next,
I'd like to introduce you to the man who turned
an idea for an afterlife podcast into a reality. Tom
dan Heiser is the senior producer for Coast to Coast
AM and he was the one who saw something in
me years ago and asked me to host this show. Now,
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it's hard to believe Shades is celebrating two hundred episodes today.
Tom has become my very good friend, but he's also
a listener and told me that he's listened to every
single episode. Tom, Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Hey, Sandra, thanks for having me and I'm sure glad
that hunch worked out so long ago.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Well, let's talk about that hunch, because great things come
out of nowhere or I don't know if they're divinely inspired.
But the Paranormal Network is fantastic and we could talk
a little bit about that in a minute. But you
wanted an afterlife show. Where did that idea come from?
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Well, I was sitting in my office here in Sherman Oaks, California,
that's where we broadcast from, and my phone rang and
it was our aed Haun show, A Julie. Her name
is Julie, and she called me and she said, listen,
we want to start this paranormal podcast network and I
want you just to run with it. She didn't tell
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me very much. He just said, you know, get some
shows to get and we're going to start this baby,
and you deal with it. So I'm like, great, I'm
up for the challenge. I think that sounds wonderful. So
I sat down and I just made a list of
shows that I thought would be great, and one of
course was the Afterlife because that's one of my favorite subjects.
And I started looking at people that we've had on
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coast and I'm say, yeah, this person's good, this person's good,
this and I came across your name and I said,
Sandra does a really good job. Let's try her. So
I had called you and that's when I asked you
to make a demo, and you made one, sent it
in and it was a home run. So that was
a pretty easy choice.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
You're the best, and you know I give this show
my heart and soul every single episode because you know
who's listening. There's a lot of people, of course that
are interested in paranormal in the afterlife, but mainly we
get people who have loved ones that have passed, and
so tom on behalf of all the listeners. Thank you
for having that punch and making it into a reality.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Well, you're very welcome. I'm sure glad I could do that.
I do know how hard you work at this show,
and believe me, doing this stuff for twenty years, twenty
plus years, I know that radio affects people and helps them,
and I know that you do that, and you share
emails with me, and so I'm very glad that you're
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doing your show. And not to make it all about
you or all about me, because I believe radio and
podcasts are really for the people. But I do want
to say congratulations and there you go.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Are there particular topics that you love hearing about.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Just in general or within the afterlife?
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Realm okay, that all sounds good has shades of the
afterlife made you kind of go wow and helped you
a little bit in your life having thinking of a
bigger picture.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
So it's a yes and no. I kind of know
what I believe, you know what I mean. I don't
waiver much in my thoughts, but I'm very open minded
to listen to people. So one of my favorite things, though,
is I like when you tell stories about people that
have been helped. Because I a long many moons ago,
when I went to college, I told myself I wanted
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to get into radio partly because people bond with their
radio hosts. You know that. I don't have to tell
you that, and they bond with the radio show and
it helps people. So you know, it's a great way
to make a living and help people. And that's one
of the reasons I really got into it. So listening
to stories that you tell me, or emails that you
pass on or that you read on your show, I
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think is really great.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Oh I'm so glad I get a bunch of them.
And I can't help but think, if you guys didn't
give me that chance, these words wouldn't be out there,
and they're going to be out there forever.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Look the way I look at it, if we wouldn't
have given you a podcast, somebody else would have found you.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Oh you're sweet. I'm just a messenger for the people.
Can I ask you to talk a little bit about
the Paranormal Podcast Network because it's not just Shades of
the Afterlife. There's some other celebrations going on too.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Yeah, I sure can. We started out with three shows
and we didn't want to go beyond that, just because
you have to give something like this a chance to
grow and market it and let people know that it's
out there. So we started off with you course, Shades
of the Afterlife. And I remember calling you telling you, look,
I don't wavor about titles. I have a thing. It's weird,
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but I just have a thing and this is what
I want to call it. And you were more than
gracious and said, yeah, let's do that. So that was good.
And then I called Joshua P. Warren, who's been our
show many times. I think you know him, and I said,
josh here's the deal, let's come up with something. And
we nicknamed him the Wizard of Weird because he just
tackles it's of weird subjects. And we called it Strange
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Things because it's kind of a strange guy himself, like
I am and people are. And so we did that,
and then we had Heidi Hollis do a show called
Dark Becomes Light. So those are the three shows we
started out with, and we wanted to just let them
cultivate and grow. The end of May, we added a
show called Beyond Contact with Captain Ron. And Captain Ron
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is the guy who bought Contact in the Desert, which
is a huge event that's held here in Los Angeles
in near Palm Springs, So you know. And I wanted
a UFO show for a long time, all those those
couple of years while you guys were doing your shows.
I'm like, man, we gotta have a UFO show. What
are we doing here? But I couldn't find the right one.
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There's great you followists out there, but you know, to
be a great researcher is one thing, but you have
to talk if you're going to do a podcast, and
no offense to anybody, but I just couldn't find the
right one. And then I had met Ron and he
was doing a podcast when I met him, and I
just kind of listened and I said, hey, man, make
me a demo, and it just came out really well.
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So we launched him and he's doing really well, so
I'm very happy about that.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
That's great. Where can people find the other podcasts?
Speaker 4 (20:57):
All you need to do is download the iHeartRadio app
if you listen on your phone, if you listen on
a PC, just go to iHeartRadio dot com and then
in the search on both of those, all you need
to do is put Coast to Coast AM and all
the shows will pop right up. They're all there with
their little icons, and then click on the one you
want to listen to, which hopefully you'll listen to all
of them. And that's kind of how you get to listen.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
And speaking of listening to all of them, George Nori
made an announcement on Coast to Coast about Shades of
the Afterlife, and I got a nice email this past
week from a fellow that listened to all episodes within
forty five days, So a shout out to our friend there.
Trusting George, Sandra, you are boinge to listen to people
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binge like breaking back right, they binge the Golden Girls,
they binged, Sandra, that's awesome, that is awesome. Well, Tom,
we have a lot of people who really appreciate that
you created shades of the afterlife, and so what message
would you like to leave them with today or there's
anything else you want to share?
Speaker 4 (22:02):
There is, But first I want to turn the tables
just a little. I was thinking to myself, I want
to ask you three questions, and I want your thoughts
on these. Okay, okay. One. I one hundred and fifty
thousand percent believe that there is an afterlife and I'm
planning to go through the good side of it. And
I know that there's ones for pets, and I want
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to get your thought on pets and death.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Tom. I don't believe that our pets go with us.
I know they do. I've heard hundreds of stories of
near death experiences and people's pets are there to greet them.
You know. They say that dog is God spelt backwards.
They're here to love, to show us unconditional love, and
right up to the end, that's who they are. I
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think their lives are short because they've done their work
really showing us unconditional love. And I one hundred percent
believe our pets go to the same we do, and
the moment they passed, they're back to being puppies and
kittens again, chasing butterflies, and they'll be waiting for us
when it's our turn.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
You know, it's so hard. I have a little Maltese's
name is Freddy, and we went to the doggie doctor today.
I like to take him in and get him checked out,
make sure he's okay. But he's an older guy. She
started to kind of you know, lean, and I just
shut her down. I can't even think about that. It's
so tough to think about that. Do you have pets?
Speaker 3 (23:34):
I did, and it's interesting. My pet, Millie Kat, she
passed right before I had to do the final read
of my book We Don't Die, A skeptics discovery of
life after death, and before it went to print. I
had to reread the book, and I was grieving her
loss because I had her for over ten years. The
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last thing I wanted to do was read my book.
Tom When I did, oh my gosh, it made me
realize that the afterlife is real. I was grieving, and
there's a chapter in there about grief and how to
get through it. And I realized that Millie passed at
the right time because I got to see how powerful
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the words were in the book about moving through grief
and that there is an afterlife. And that's really what
I try to inject in every episode of Shades of
the Afterlife, because I know that love and Tom if
I can tell you we love our pets often more
than we love human beings, so that grief can be
even worse.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
I was just going to say, you are You're so wonderful,
because I'm just not there. I can't. There is no
right time for me for my dog. And I don't
want to go into this anymore because it upsets me,
it really does. But there's no right time, you know.
I'm not sure ifau'll ever get there. But I was
just wondering waiting for you to get done with George.
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I was wondering what your thoughts were on that, And
so that's why I want to ask you that question.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Yeah, my advice to anyone, whether it's a pet or
a loved one, is be in the present moment. I
tell you, we human beings have been through a lot,
and we have to trust our future selves that we'll
be able to make the decisions we need to and
handle things then, as we've made so many decisions in
the past, but our mind wants to look ahead to
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the future always, And how am I going to deal
with this or that? Just be in the present moment.
And you love mister Freddie with all your heart, and
I know he feels the same way about you.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Just not a good question, Okay, So my second question
to you, I wanted to ask you, what do you
say in you meaning anybody that comes across this to
people that just don't believe there's an afterlife?
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Well, I think it's important to know what kind of
skeptic we're dealing with. There are people called open minded skeptics,
and then there are closed minded skeptics. The open minded
skeptics are you know, I really don't believe in this,
but I'm open to hear what you have to say,
in which case I'd tell them about some of my
journey because I was a skeptic. I didn't believe in
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any of this, but again an open minded skeptic. But
then Tom, there's these closed minded skeptics that will cross
their arms, and no matter what you have to say,
I'm not going to believe we can't get through to
those people. We can imagine that someday they'll have a
loved one pass or they'll start asking those big questions
and hopefully they're open. But we can't force this upon anyone.
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Let's take a quick break and then we'll be back
with producer Tom, and then you'll meet Danian Brinkley. You're
listening to our two hundredth episode celebration of Shades of
the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM
Paranormal podcast Network.
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Speaker 3 (28:04):
Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
and thank you for joining us today on our two
hundredth episode celebration. In this segment, you're going to meet
Dani and Brinkley, who was struck by lightning. He's had
three near death experiences and he's made his life about
helping others in such a unique way. But before we
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get to him, we're going to hear some more from
our producer Tom. Shades of the Afterlife was his idea,
and I'm so grateful that he asked me to be
the host. Tom had asked me my ideas of dealing
with skeptics. There are open minded skeptics and there are
closed minded skeptics. So let me continue my answer to
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Tom Emen Alexander the neurosurgeon. He said that every open
minded skeptic weather arms crossed and said, no, I don't believe,
but I'm open. He's turned them into a believer with
such great stories of near death experiences and especially the
verifiable evidence that so many near death experiencers have. So
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there's hope for skeptics. But my recommendation is to be open,
be open that there's something more.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
I think that's a good answer. And I do like Evans'
work a lot. I do like him. Okay, right, for
my third one, and this is the final question, I'll
let's get back to it because I kind of hijacked
you for a minute. Do you think in the afterlife
that we are forgiven? And what I mean by that
is nobody's perfect in this life, nobody, And so you know,
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we do bad things sometimes right, or things maybe we
shouldn't do, but maybe we keep doing them, and yet
we go, man, we shouldn't do this.
Speaker 7 (29:49):
You know.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
I'm kind of relating it to in tune to like
someone shouldn't be eating twinkies every day, right, So they
say I'm going to stop, and then they go, oh, man,
I don't eat this Twinkie. So they know, is what
I'm trying to say. That's my point. They know, and
yet they do it. And so I'm just curious if
you think we're forgiven.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Definitely. First of all, the hardest part of our soul's
existence is this life here on earth. It's brutal sometimes,
and we have the ego and the voice that says,
have another Twinkie. We all have that. But I think
the nature of us living this life is for our
souls to have different experiences really and to have that
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soul growth. And I don't think there is a being
that judges us from all the near death experiences. I've heard,
there's what's called the life review, and we get to
experience our life from the viewpoint of other people, so
we get to feel whether we said something we shouldn't
have said or hurt their feelings, but we also get
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to experience the good that we've done and the ripple
effect of that. So our divine self can look back
at our human life and say, Okay, you kept promising
yourself you wouldn't need another Twinkie, but you did. Let's
forgive you. So it's only us, And I don't even
want to say we judge ourselves, but we look back
on our lives where we have grown and what we
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could have done better, and for the future we have learned.
So I hope that answers it.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Yeah, it does. But I will tell you that many
people do judge themselves.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
I'm one of those people. I definitely am. But when
we cross over, we get a bigger understanding of why
and who we were, and some of the toughest times
we have in our life become a gift where we
can help another human being. So try not to be
so hard on yourself.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
I don't want to cross over anytime soon, but I'm
sure it's even more wonderful than anybody can imagine.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
You can't cross over. We got two hundred plus more
episodes of Shades of the Afterlife to go. Well, Tom,
thanks so much for being our guest today.
Speaker 8 (31:55):
Of course, absolutely, I enjoyed it very much. Talking to
you me too. You're going to meet Danian Brinkley, who
first appeared on Shades of the Afterlife way back on
episode twenty nine. He is a man who has survived
three near death experiences, has written several books. In fact,
his New York Times best selling book Saved by the
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Light has sold over twenty million copies. His story was
made into a movie which has now been viewed over
one hundred million times. Our friend Danian Brinkley not only
talks about the afterlife, but has a passion for supporting
our veterans and actually all of humanity. As founder of
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the Twilight Brigade, Danian has spent thousands of hours by
the bedside of hundreds who have passed and believes all
of us should be educated in end of life care because,
in his words, if you're breathing, you're leaving.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Danian, welcome back to Shades of Afterlife and Sandra, congratulations.
Speaker 7 (33:03):
Two hundred episodes and it's a pleasure to be a
part of this. I think that the concept of the
near death experience is bringing such a new awareness to
this illusion of what we call death. I'm a devout
believer in that no one dies, and once a person
begins to grip that concept, a whole other level of
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consciousness opens up to them without ever having a near
death experience. So people just listen to these experiences and
always never believe everything you hear. But if you listen,
the construct that has controlled our reality of the illusion
of what's next. The near death experiences and programs like
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yours is washing away that illusion, and we're beginning to
realize the great, powerful and mighty nature of our spiritual identity.
And I'm really proud for you to have persevered through
the years with the diligent support of your mom to
make all this happen.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Oh, thanks so much for that. There's a lot of
people that are skeptical, Danian, but they're open. They want
to believe. What would you say to them.
Speaker 7 (34:09):
Open up your heart before you open up your mind,
Open up your heart, before you open up your mind,
and look at how it's constructed. The basic premise of
what happens, the lifting out of the body, the life review,
the consciousness awareness of who you are. No one dies,
and yes there's Hell's experiences, but that's about less than
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three percent. And if you listen to it intently saying,
you get a chance to hear what that person's working through.
So when you come up with the concept about people
being skeptical, I would have been skeptical myself, sayan because
I wouldn't have bought into it if it had not
happened to me. So I support that. But what people
really need to do is open up their hearts before
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they opened up their mind. We've all been conditioned with religions, institutions,
and governments with a fear of what we call death. Well,
what we call death never happens. I have been around
thousands of people. I have been with two thousand and
seventeen people going from this world to the next, and
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three hundred and fifty eight taken their last breath. And
I've been through a death experience and were literally three
near death experiences and had to be clinically resuscitated twice.
So spending the last forty eight years as a hospice
volunteer and going through these experiences, I can tell skeptics, believers, everyone,
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categorically you will not die. And what you have to
do is let go of the illusion of all the
things that religions and institutions and governments have perpetuated upon
us to get us to be less in control of
our divine self and thereby being better controlled by our
human self. And this is the paradigm that shift absolutely.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
And let's talk a little bit about hospice and end
of life training, because in our current day, most people
are hidden from death. People are in nursing homes, they
go to hospitals. How important is it for each one
of us to understand the dying process and what the
dying need, because, like you say, if we're breathing, we're leaving.
Speaker 7 (36:23):
It's imperative. Now, this is a personal viewpoint saying I
believe that evil has its greatest power in end of
life being having more than forty thousand dollars at the
bedside and watching what happens between the person in transition
and the family members. Evil controls, It destroys families, It
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creates bridges and relationships, It creates negligence, and people not
understanding this process plays right into the hands of those
who are trying to control us and trying to run
our lives and to keep us in fear. I'm a
giant believer in breathing because I believe that breath is
the most important thing that a person must focus on.
(37:06):
And how deep you breathe tells you how much you
appreciate the life you have. And if you're frightened and afraid,
then you breathe even less shallow and you get less
oxygen to your brain, which slows down your system. People
have to understand no one is going to die in
the way that you're told you transition and why I
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became a hospice volunteers in the Life review saying, you
see your whole life pass before you in a three
hundred and sixty degree panorama. You watch it from a
first person point of view as though you were your
own best friend, and then you literally become every person
that you ever encounter, and you feel the direct results
of your interaction between you and that person. That means
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no one gets away with anything. No one's going to
save you from yourself. And at the end, and this
is a Danianism, you ask yourself this question. If I
couldn't come today and God sent you in the life
you just reviewed, what difference did you and God make?
That is the most important thing that I could tell
everyone in this audience listening. If God couldn't come today
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and God sent you or divinity, what difference did you
and Divinity make? Well, knowing that I was a marine
and knowing that veterans are literally neglected, and literally when
I came into this game, they were thousands a day
passing from World War One, World War two, and Korea.
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And when I looked at it, somebody had to do something.
So I went to work and created the Toilette Brigade,
which became one of the largest end of life care
volunteer programs for dying veterans in American history, and I
am the co author of the standard end of life
care model now used by the Veterans Administration called novet
Die Alone. What people have to get a grip on
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is the more you hide from the fact that if
you come here and you're breathing, you're leaving. And if
you just took a breath, how valuable is that breath
to your life? And to not educate yourself on the process,
which is inevitable, makes you a mistake and it leaves
people alaned, frightened, abandoned, and scared as they prepare to
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make the transition from this world back to where we
came from. Always remember we chose to come here, and
even more importantly, we were chosen to come here. And
once you were chosen, you make a decision of whether
you want to come or not. We are in control,
no matter what you think about not being in control,
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you are in control. And when you have that as
a mindset, like many indears have as a mindset. You
have a tendency to better control and run your life,
to be supportive of people in transition, and to be
there when they need you the most. Like I always
say for a veteran, they were there when we needed them.
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We must be there for them when they need us.
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Speaker 3 (41:39):
Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain,
and this is our two hundredth episode celebration. We're talking
to Danian Brinkley, struck by lightning, has had three near
death experiences and you can hear his entire story on
episode twenty nine. You were just talking about our veterans.
Speaker 7 (42:02):
They were there when we needed them. We must be
there for them when they need us. And the most
important thing is this transition is an inevitable part of
this life. To hide from it in religion or religions,
or institutions or government programs, to hide from it and
avoid it is a mistake. Why we end up neglecting
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the celebration of the life of those who we love,
and we put them in a position to drag on
and carry on and stay here so much longer than
they were designed to be here.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Thank you for that, Danian. We have a lot of
people listening to your words right now that are grieving
from the physical deaths of a loved one. What message
would you have for them today?
Speaker 7 (42:45):
Of first, I want to tell them that I love
each and every one of them very much. And second,
loss is an inevitable part of this program. And trust me,
you only want to stay here as long as you
are required to get the job done you were sent
to do, and then you want to get the heck
out of here. I don't want to stay any longer,
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although the fear of death is what drives me to
keep getting up from the quote unquote dead and to
keep pushing this message because we live in an illusion
and it's a delusional perspective that we're living in, and
we're not truly understanding the divinity of our spiritual selves.
Everyone who is listening and everyone who is not listening
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is a great, powerful and mighty spiritual being with dignity, direction,
and purpose. The only thing that can ever go wrong
in your life is you allow something to affect your dignity,
which kews your direction and your purpose. And what the
biggest thing is is how lower of an opinion you
have about yourself, which is what affects your dignity. And
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when I can get people to grip that, then the
consciousness elevates sam What happens is there the vibration changes.
Religions and institutions in governments control how we view ourselves. Guilt, sins, suffering,
you're going to heaven, You're going the hell. You're going
to be eternally burned and damned and all that garbage.
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None of that stuff ever happens. You are responsible for
this life, and you're responsible for the choices that you
make in this life. And for all of you who
are grieving, then that's natural. You process the separation, but
remember you will see them again and you will be reunited,
and you'll laugh about the whole process that you just
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went through. You'll laugh about it because the celebration of
this life is the most important thing. That you were
chosen to come here to be an integral part of
a program unfolding. And if you believe like I do,
we're living in a new age. The world I was
born in seventy four years ago has disappeared, and now
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I'm watching the unfoldment of a new world and a
new reality being formed. And so is all the rest
of us. Say, so we are the light bearerst We
are those who hold this place of divine spirituality so
that people can see, within the framework of the transition
that we're going through, that there is stability, and in
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that stability comes warmth, secure and a knowingness that we
came to do a job. We get that job done,
and we get the heck out of here unless they
call us to come again. So listen, everybody. It's okay
to feel the loss of someone you have loved. It's
so so okay to feel the sense of loneliness. But
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I want to tell people, and this is the truth
that you've ever heard it before, in the spiritual world,
there is no such thing as helplessness and loneliness. It's
the big lie. You come here and you take on
a belief that you can be helpless when you're born
and when you leave, and you can be lonely based
on the opinion you have of yourself are the opinion
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you think other people have of you. So helplessness and
loneliness are the controlling mechanisms that are the undercurrent that
controls our lives. So if you've lost someone, Heaven's gained them.
And as you grieve bereavement, it's natural. But remember it's
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as short as a life is, and you will be
reconnected with that person. It'll be in a different form everybody.
Because we take on characters, we take on personalities, We
design ourselves a certain way so that we fulfill the
design divine spiritual need that we were chosen to come here,
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and I'd like to tell everybody else this. The fact
that you were chosen to come here at this particular
time means there is no one better than you to
do the job that the divine get you to do.
So when you're sitting quietly and you're missing someone, take
a bowl of water. Get a small bowl of water
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and put up into salt that's your body. Take a
birthday candle and pick their favorite color. And take that
birthday candle, and remember the flame is red, orange, yellow, blue, green, indigo,
and violet. All the colors of the spectrum is in
that candle flame. And as that birthday candle burns down,
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when you're sitting there and that candle flickers and goes out,
you think of the funniest thing that ever happened between
you and the person that you're missing. And you'll be
sitting in the dark laughing. But so will they, because
laughter crosses every boundary, Love crosses every boundary. Sadness, loneliness
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and despair only thickens and never moves very far past
the physical mental consciousness. But laughter, joy and celebration and
in the love of life, and you will quietly be
sitting in dark laughing but you will know that they
feel you, they hear you, and they're surrounded with you
with as much love as they're allowed to give back
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over here, because messing up the job that you came
to do could easily be done if they appeared. And
also remember to slow your vibration down to come back
into this densa a reality is very difficult. And also
if we knew exactly that connection stayed, then we wouldn't
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stay focused on our job. I need everybody to know
that I love them and I have seen who we
are once again. We are great, powerful and mighty spiritual
beings with dignity, direction and purpose. The only thing that
can ever go wrong is you allow something to affect
your dignity, which skews your direction and your purpose. So
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when you look in the mirror, who is that person?
When you look in the mirror, what is that person's
aims and goals? And make sure every day those are clarified,
and at the end of each day go back and
see how well you maintained. The panoramic life review is
the greatest gift we are given to know. You're going
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to see your entire life pass before you. You're going
to watch it from a second person point of view,
as though you were your own best friend. Now, what
a delightful way to pass from this world to the next,
knowing that your best friend is telling you, oh, God, Daniel,
how stupid could you be? But you know that they
love you and they don't care. And the other thing
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is when they pat you on the back, they are saying,
what a great job. You get a chance to see
your life from that point of view, and then you're
going to be every person that you've ever encountered. And
for most people, that experience is the greatest joy. All
the things you think you've done wrong, it's never what
you did, it was why you did it. Intention. The
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intent of why you did something becomes the single most
important thing. So everybody, please pay attention to the reason
why you're doing it, not why you're doing it. And
please don't be as big a fool as I was.
Because the first panoramic life review was horrible, the second
one was a lot better, the third one I even
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got better, and the fourth one I began to truly
appreciate myself and the efforts I have put forth and
the pain I've gone through that it all has meaning
and understanding, and it only makes me love each and
every one of you who have anything to do with
Coast to Coast more than they could possibly imagine.
Speaker 3 (50:43):
Danian, thank you so much for the difference you've made
in my life and many others, and for being here
on our two hundredth celebration episode.
Speaker 7 (50:53):
And Sandra, thank you for persevering putting these shows together
and bringing this opportunity for people like me to be
able to try to open up hearts. Before you open
up your mind. Nobody ever dies. It will never happen.
Everybody never, and the process of why you come here
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for such a short period of time, which eighty years
is not a very long time, is designed that way.
So you get here, you get the job done, and
you get home. So everybody, please open up your heart
for a moment. Send Sandra and her mom all the
love that you could possibly send. Send deep appreciation, and
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know that we who are members of the Knight who
love Coast to Coast and all the programs because I've
been on Coast to Coast since I think nineteen ninety four,
and I appreciate everybody, and I thank you for even
considering putting me on this show and happy celebration of
two hundred episodes.
Speaker 3 (51:57):
Oh wonderful words. Thank you so much and for all
that are listening. You can find out more about Daniel
and his work and his books at light Streamers dot com. Wow,
so much passion and truth in his words. I don't
know about you, my friends, but I'll be listening to
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these words again and I feel so humbled by the
words from George Nori and Tom dan Heiser. I'm sure,
just like you, you find something good you want to
share it with others. And I have so much appreciation
for our friends at iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM
for giving me this platform to share with you. Also,
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my home base is we Don't Die dot com. At
the bottom of the page. There you can enter your
name and email address and get a free copy of
my book We Don't Die, a skeptics discovery of life
after death. It says it's just the first few chapters,
it's the entire higher book. We also offer a free
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Sunday gathering inspirational service with medium demonstration included. And I
always say the best way to experience the power of
your soul is to take a class, and you might
want to join our Soul to Soul communication class. In closing,
never forget that your loved ones reside and the invisible
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space around you. They love you, They are part of
your lives, and you will see them again. I'm Sandra Champlain,
and from the bottom of my heart, thank you for
being part of our two hundredth episode celebration of Shades
of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast
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am Pirinormal Podcast Network.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
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Speaker 6 (54:08):
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Speaker 1 (00:51):
Hi.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know
that our loved ones have survived physical death and so
will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife and welcome
(01:12):
to our two hundredth episode celebration. I have three great
guests here to celebrate it with us, including Tom Dan Heiser,
the man who first had the idea of this show,
also New York Times best selling author and three time
near death experiencer Danian Brinkley. But first I'd like to
introduce you to someone who probably needs no introduction. George
(01:37):
Nori is the host of Coast to Coast AM. His
captivating interviews with fascinating guests are heard by millions of
listeners nightly. He's also the host of the television show
Beyond Belief. He's authored and co authored several books, including
one about the afterlife called Talking to the Dead. And
what he may not know is what a prof found
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difference he has made in my life. George, Welcome to
Shades of the Afterlife.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Sandrew, my pleasure and congratulations on your two hundredth show.
That's amazing, it is, and it.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
So hard to believe that you and Tom had the
faith in me for this show. So thank you on
behalf of all the people listening, because so many people
wouldn't be listening without you.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Now, the first time we heard you, we were impressed
beyond belief, as one would say, and we had to
do something with you. And when we came up with
the Pureanormal Podcast Network, you were a natural for that.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Oh, thanks so much. I remember being beyond belief with
you out there in Colorado, and you had told me
a story why you not only have faith in the afterlife,
but you know the reality of the afterlife. Can I
ask you to share with our listeners why you believe?
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I believe because strange things have happened. And I think
that story I was telling you had to do with
that fire, wasn't it. Yes, I was a little boy.
My mother was raised in Fitchburg, Massachusetts. Her father owned
a furniture company on the bottom of level of a
series of apartments that he had built that he rented
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out to people. And they had two units of an
apartment building that they kind of co created together. So
it was one big place. So my parents were up
on the third floor. I was sleeping on the second level.
Underneath us was the furniture store. Well, in the middle
of the night, I was woken up by a firefighter
(03:38):
who said, wake up, wake up, get everyone out of
the house. There's smoke in the house. There could be
a fire. There was something was going on in the
furniture store. A mattress had caught fire. So I woke
up sprung out of bed, ran upstairs, got my parents,
got everybody out of the apartment complex. The Fitchburgh set
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in a newspaper took a picture of a little twelve
year old George Nori in his spare feet walking across
the street. And after it was all done, my dad
went up to the fire chief and he said, we
want to thank the firefighter who woke up my son
and got us out of there. And he said, sir,
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we never got into your apartment complex. He said, yes
you did. There was a firefighter with the helmet the mask.
He woke my son up and said, get everybody out
of here. He said, sir, we were only down in
the furniture store where the fire was. We never made
it up to your apartment. What could that be, Sandra.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
An angel? That's somebody from the afterlife and they can
come right in to shake us up and be there
to save our lives. I would say, So, George was
at the beginning of you really looking for what else
is possible because you have had a lifetime of interviewing
great people and really on sharing so much. Is that
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where that love of searching began.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
It didn't begin there, but it sure contributed to it.
The beginning was my mother. She gave me a book
called We Are Not Alone by the late Walter Sullivan,
who was a New York Times science writer, about his
theory that we are not alone in the universe. And
I'm reading this book and I'm fascinated by it. Then
(05:26):
look magazine, of course to the story on the Barney
and Betty Hill abduction case. I'm fascinated with that. And
I made the decision at a very young age, in
my early teens, I was going to go into broadcasting
and unravel these stories. That's what I wanted to do,
because I said to myself, people who are part of
(05:47):
these programs, these UFOs and these after life stories will
talk to a journalist before they just talked to George
NORRII picking up the phone. So I decided at that
young age that's what I wanted to do. I wanted
to go in the broadcasting. Now, my dad had other ideas.
He wanted me to become a dentist, and so for
(06:09):
two years I went to the University of Detroit to
kind of acquiesce his desires of me wanting to become
a dentist, until one day I realized They had a
great broadcast curriculum there, and a friend of mine who
was in that curriculum said, you ought to switch and
come into broadcasting. As a matter of fact, I'm working
(06:31):
at a TV station right now and I'm going home
for Christmas. They won't let me go unless I find
somebody to replace me. He was just a copyboy, made
two dollars an hour, and I said I'll do it.
So I did, and they kept me, and they kept him.
And I came back and switched my major in the broadcasting.
And my dad got the report cards because he paid
(06:54):
the college tuition. And when the report card showed up,
he called me downstairs and he said, George, come here.
We need to talk about your report card. I said, yeah, Dad,
what's wrong? He said, well, I got the wrong report card.
I said what do you mean. He said, well, some
kid at your university is a seeing broadcast courses, speech
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classes and all that, but there's nothing here with science
and your dental stuff. We got the wrong stuff. I said, Dad,
I switched my major. He wouldn't talk to me, Sandra
for two months, until one day he was watching a
television newscast on that station. I was working for and
(07:39):
they would run credits at the end on Friday night
and it popped up George Nori, production assistant, and he
saw my name. He stayed awake until I got home.
Got home about midnight and he said, was that your
name I saw on that station? And I said, yeah, Dad,
that's what I'm doing now, I told you, and he
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loved it ever since.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I bet he did. Similar thing happened when I wrote
my book. My mom was thinking, what is this book?
You know, what do you really have to say? And
she got the very first copy George and I dedicated
to her, and she says, Sandra, you're going to change
the world with this information. So it's wonderful that her
parents believe in us. George, You've heard many stories throughout
the years. Are there any afterlife topics from mediums or
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near death experiences or topics like that that when you
have a guest on you think, ooh, I really like
hearing about that.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I liked the story I got one day from an
individual who called me years ago and said that it
was like during open lines that he called and he
was depressed one day and he didn't know what to do,
so he decided he was going to do himself in,
and he went driving into a small town to try
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to find a place where he was going to kill himself.
And he sat at a park bench overlooking a lake
with ducks that would fit the water and fly out,
and he said, this is where I decided I was
going to shoot myself. And he said, just wasn't. I
was ready to pull on my revolver. This old farmer
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came down and sat next to me and his coveralls,
talking about life. He wouldn't leave me alone. I'm there
to shoot myself, and he's just talking and talking about
people and life and love. And he just talked for
about thirty minutes, shook my hand, got up and left.
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He said, but I got to tell you, George. After
he had done this, I felt so good about myself.
I decided I wasn't going to kill myself. So I
went back to my town, got a new job, got
a relationship. I'm happy. Everything's going right. Decided about a
(10:01):
year later to go back to that little town to
thank that old man. And I figured the only place
that would know him would be the barber shop. It's
a small little community. So he goes into the barbershop
and says, I'm looking for a guy who looks like this,
this and this and this. And the barber said, oh,
you want to go to the top of the hill
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the white house on the right talk to his daughter,
and he said, okay, I will, and he said, George,
whither was going up to the house. I kind of
had a feeling something had happened to me. I knock
on the door and this girl comes and he said,
excuse me, but about a year ago, I think your
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father saved my life and I just wanted to thank
him for that. She said, well, stop right now, because
you're about the fifth person to come to me in
the last ten years. Dad died ten years ago. That
was chilling.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
It is, George. I've interviewed so many people who have
near death experiences, and they say that we get to
replay our lives from the viewpoint of someone else, and
first we go through some of those things that are
tougher times that we could have made maybe a different decision,
But then we get to see the difference we've made
in people's lives, and it's shown as the ripple effect.
(11:26):
And I know because I've been a guest on Coast
to Coast am and I've heard your listeners call in.
You give people life, You give people things to think about,
guests to hear new ways of looking at life, and
you really empower them. So I know your day will
not be for many, many years in the future, but
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when it does happen, I think you'll be surprised just
what a difference from that twelve year old boy to now,
the difference that you've made in the life of many.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
And I'll come back on change of the afterlife even
from the other I hope.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
So do you have any last words today for our listeners.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
It's just satt to continue listening to the great job
that you do. And I want to thank you once
again for everything you do on the Paranormal Podcast Network
and again congratulations on your two hundredth show.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Oh George, thanks so much for being our guest today.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
You can visit George of course at Coast to coastam
dot com watch his television show at Beyondbelief dot com.
We're going to go into our first break, but you
may ask yourself who had the great idea for Shades
of the Afterlife In the first place. You'll meet Coast
to Coast AM's Senior producer Tom dan Heiser when we
(12:47):
get back, as well as three time near death experiencer
and New York Times best selling author Danian Brinkley. We'll
be right back on our two hundredth episode celebration of
Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to
Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.
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Speaker 3 (14:33):
Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain. Next,
I'd like to introduce you to the man who turned
an idea for an afterlife podcast into a reality. Tom
dan Heiser is the senior producer for Coast to Coast
AM and he was the one who saw something in
me years ago and asked me to host this show. Now,
(14:57):
it's hard to believe Shades is celebrating two hundred episodes today.
Tom has become my very good friend, but he's also
a listener and told me that he's listened to every
single episode. Tom, Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Hey, Sandra, thanks for having me and I'm sure glad
that hunch worked out so long ago.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Well, let's talk about that hunch, because great things come
out of nowhere or I don't know if they're divinely inspired.
But the Paranormal Network is fantastic and we could talk
a little bit about that in a minute. But you
wanted an afterlife show. Where did that idea come from?
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Well, I was sitting in my office here in Sherman Oaks, California,
that's where we broadcast from, and my phone rang and
it was our aed Haun show, A Julie. Her name
is Julie, and she called me and she said, listen,
we want to start this paranormal podcast network and I
want you just to run with it. She didn't tell
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me very much. He just said, you know, get some
shows to get and we're going to start this baby,
and you deal with it. So I'm like, great, I'm
up for the challenge. I think that sounds wonderful. So
I sat down and I just made a list of
shows that I thought would be great, and one of
course was the Afterlife because that's one of my favorite subjects.
And I started looking at people that we've had on
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coast and I'm say, yeah, this person's good, this person's good,
this and I came across your name and I said,
Sandra does a really good job. Let's try her. So
I had called you and that's when I asked you
to make a demo, and you made one, sent it
in and it was a home run. So that was
a pretty easy choice.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
You're the best, and you know I give this show
my heart and soul every single episode because you know
who's listening. There's a lot of people, of course that
are interested in paranormal in the afterlife, but mainly we
get people who have loved ones that have passed, and
so tom on behalf of all the listeners. Thank you
for having that punch and making it into a reality.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Well, you're very welcome. I'm sure glad I could do that.
I do know how hard you work at this show,
and believe me, doing this stuff for twenty years, twenty
plus years, I know that radio affects people and helps them,
and I know that you do that, and you share
emails with me, and so I'm very glad that you're
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doing your show. And not to make it all about
you or all about me, because I believe radio and
podcasts are really for the people. But I do want
to say congratulations and there you go.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Are there particular topics that you love hearing about.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Just in general or within the afterlife?
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Realm okay, that all sounds good has shades of the
afterlife made you kind of go wow and helped you
a little bit in your life having thinking of a
bigger picture.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
So it's a yes and no. I kind of know
what I believe, you know what I mean. I don't
waiver much in my thoughts, but I'm very open minded
to listen to people. So one of my favorite things, though,
is I like when you tell stories about people that
have been helped. Because I a long many moons ago,
when I went to college, I told myself I wanted
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to get into radio partly because people bond with their
radio hosts. You know that. I don't have to tell
you that, and they bond with the radio show and
it helps people. So you know, it's a great way
to make a living and help people. And that's one
of the reasons I really got into it. So listening
to stories that you tell me, or emails that you
pass on or that you read on your show, I
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think is really great.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Oh I'm so glad I get a bunch of them.
And I can't help but think, if you guys didn't
give me that chance, these words wouldn't be out there,
and they're going to be out there forever.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Look the way I look at it, if we wouldn't
have given you a podcast, somebody else would have found you.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Oh you're sweet. I'm just a messenger for the people.
Can I ask you to talk a little bit about
the Paranormal Podcast Network because it's not just Shades of
the Afterlife. There's some other celebrations going on too.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Yeah, I sure can. We started out with three shows
and we didn't want to go beyond that, just because
you have to give something like this a chance to
grow and market it and let people know that it's
out there. So we started off with you course, Shades
of the Afterlife. And I remember calling you telling you, look,
I don't wavor about titles. I have a thing. It's weird,
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but I just have a thing and this is what
I want to call it. And you were more than
gracious and said, yeah, let's do that. So that was good.
And then I called Joshua P. Warren, who's been our
show many times. I think you know him, and I said,
josh here's the deal, let's come up with something. And
we nicknamed him the Wizard of Weird because he just
tackles it's of weird subjects. And we called it Strange
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Things because it's kind of a strange guy himself, like
I am and people are. And so we did that,
and then we had Heidi Hollis do a show called
Dark Becomes Light. So those are the three shows we
started out with, and we wanted to just let them
cultivate and grow. The end of May, we added a
show called Beyond Contact with Captain Ron. And Captain Ron
(20:05):
is the guy who bought Contact in the Desert, which
is a huge event that's held here in Los Angeles
in near Palm Springs, So you know. And I wanted
a UFO show for a long time, all those those
couple of years while you guys were doing your shows.
I'm like, man, we gotta have a UFO show. What
are we doing here? But I couldn't find the right one.
(20:26):
There's great you followists out there, but you know, to
be a great researcher is one thing, but you have
to talk if you're going to do a podcast, and
no offense to anybody, but I just couldn't find the
right one. And then I had met Ron and he
was doing a podcast when I met him, and I
just kind of listened and I said, hey, man, make
me a demo, and it just came out really well.
(20:48):
So we launched him and he's doing really well, so
I'm very happy about that.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
That's great. Where can people find the other podcasts?
Speaker 4 (20:57):
All you need to do is download the iHeartRadio app
if you listen on your phone, if you listen on
a PC, just go to iHeartRadio dot com and then
in the search on both of those, all you need
to do is put Coast to Coast AM and all
the shows will pop right up. They're all there with
their little icons, and then click on the one you
want to listen to, which hopefully you'll listen to all
of them. And that's kind of how you get to listen.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
And speaking of listening to all of them, George Nori
made an announcement on Coast to Coast about Shades of
the Afterlife, and I got a nice email this past
week from a fellow that listened to all episodes within
forty five days, So a shout out to our friend there.
Trusting George, Sandra, you are boinge to listen to people
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binge like breaking back right, they binge the Golden Girls,
they binged, Sandra, that's awesome, that is awesome. Well, Tom,
we have a lot of people who really appreciate that
you created shades of the afterlife, and so what message
would you like to leave them with today or there's
anything else you want to share?
Speaker 4 (22:02):
There is, But first I want to turn the tables
just a little. I was thinking to myself, I want
to ask you three questions, and I want your thoughts
on these. Okay, okay. One. I one hundred and fifty
thousand percent believe that there is an afterlife and I'm
planning to go through the good side of it. And
I know that there's ones for pets, and I want
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to get your thought on pets and death.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Tom. I don't believe that our pets go with us.
I know they do. I've heard hundreds of stories of
near death experiences and people's pets are there to greet them.
You know. They say that dog is God spelt backwards.
They're here to love, to show us unconditional love, and
right up to the end, that's who they are. I
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think their lives are short because they've done their work
really showing us unconditional love. And I one hundred percent
believe our pets go to the same we do, and
the moment they passed, they're back to being puppies and
kittens again, chasing butterflies, and they'll be waiting for us
when it's our turn.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
You know, it's so hard. I have a little Maltese's
name is Freddy, and we went to the doggie doctor today.
I like to take him in and get him checked out,
make sure he's okay. But he's an older guy. She
started to kind of you know, lean, and I just
shut her down. I can't even think about that. It's
so tough to think about that. Do you have pets?
Speaker 3 (23:34):
I did, and it's interesting. My pet, Millie Kat, she
passed right before I had to do the final read
of my book We Don't Die, A skeptics discovery of
life after death, and before it went to print. I
had to reread the book, and I was grieving her
loss because I had her for over ten years. The
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last thing I wanted to do was read my book.
Tom When I did, oh my gosh, it made me
realize that the afterlife is real. I was grieving, and
there's a chapter in there about grief and how to
get through it. And I realized that Millie passed at
the right time because I got to see how powerful
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the words were in the book about moving through grief
and that there is an afterlife. And that's really what
I try to inject in every episode of Shades of
the Afterlife, because I know that love and Tom if
I can tell you we love our pets often more
than we love human beings, so that grief can be
even worse.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
I was just going to say, you are You're so wonderful,
because I'm just not there. I can't. There is no
right time for me for my dog. And I don't
want to go into this anymore because it upsets me,
it really does. But there's no right time, you know.
I'm not sure ifau'll ever get there. But I was
just wondering waiting for you to get done with George.
(24:57):
I was wondering what your thoughts were on that, And
so that's why I want to ask you that question.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Yeah, my advice to anyone, whether it's a pet or
a loved one, is be in the present moment. I
tell you, we human beings have been through a lot,
and we have to trust our future selves that we'll
be able to make the decisions we need to and
handle things then, as we've made so many decisions in
the past, but our mind wants to look ahead to
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the future always, And how am I going to deal
with this or that? Just be in the present moment.
And you love mister Freddie with all your heart, and
I know he feels the same way about you.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Just not a good question, Okay, So my second question
to you, I wanted to ask you, what do you
say in you meaning anybody that comes across this to
people that just don't believe there's an afterlife?
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Well, I think it's important to know what kind of
skeptic we're dealing with. There are people called open minded skeptics,
and then there are closed minded skeptics. The open minded
skeptics are you know, I really don't believe in this,
but I'm open to hear what you have to say,
in which case I'd tell them about some of my
journey because I was a skeptic. I didn't believe in
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any of this, but again an open minded skeptic. But
then Tom, there's these closed minded skeptics that will cross
their arms, and no matter what you have to say,
I'm not going to believe we can't get through to
those people. We can imagine that someday they'll have a
loved one pass or they'll start asking those big questions
and hopefully they're open. But we can't force this upon anyone.
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Let's take a quick break and then we'll be back
with producer Tom, and then you'll meet Danian Brinkley. You're
listening to our two hundredth episode celebration of Shades of
the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM
Paranormal podcast Network.
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Speaker 3 (28:04):
Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
and thank you for joining us today on our two
hundredth episode celebration. In this segment, you're going to meet
Dani and Brinkley, who was struck by lightning. He's had
three near death experiences and he's made his life about
helping others in such a unique way. But before we
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get to him, we're going to hear some more from
our producer Tom. Shades of the Afterlife was his idea,
and I'm so grateful that he asked me to be
the host. Tom had asked me my ideas of dealing
with skeptics. There are open minded skeptics and there are
closed minded skeptics. So let me continue my answer to
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Tom Emen Alexander the neurosurgeon. He said that every open
minded skeptic weather arms crossed and said, no, I don't believe,
but I'm open. He's turned them into a believer with
such great stories of near death experiences and especially the
verifiable evidence that so many near death experiencers have. So
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there's hope for skeptics. But my recommendation is to be open,
be open that there's something more.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
I think that's a good answer. And I do like Evans'
work a lot. I do like him. Okay, right, for
my third one, and this is the final question, I'll
let's get back to it because I kind of hijacked
you for a minute. Do you think in the afterlife
that we are forgiven? And what I mean by that
is nobody's perfect in this life, nobody, And so you know,
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we do bad things sometimes right, or things maybe we
shouldn't do, but maybe we keep doing them, and yet
we go, man, we shouldn't do this.
Speaker 7 (29:49):
You know.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
I'm kind of relating it to in tune to like
someone shouldn't be eating twinkies every day, right, So they
say I'm going to stop, and then they go, oh, man,
I don't eat this Twinkie. So they know, is what
I'm trying to say. That's my point. They know, and
yet they do it. And so I'm just curious if
you think we're forgiven.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Definitely. First of all, the hardest part of our soul's
existence is this life here on earth. It's brutal sometimes,
and we have the ego and the voice that says,
have another Twinkie. We all have that. But I think
the nature of us living this life is for our
souls to have different experiences really and to have that
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soul growth. And I don't think there is a being
that judges us from all the near death experiences. I've heard,
there's what's called the life review, and we get to
experience our life from the viewpoint of other people, so
we get to feel whether we said something we shouldn't
have said or hurt their feelings, but we also get
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to experience the good that we've done and the ripple
effect of that. So our divine self can look back
at our human life and say, Okay, you kept promising
yourself you wouldn't need another Twinkie, but you did. Let's
forgive you. So it's only us, And I don't even
want to say we judge ourselves, but we look back
on our lives where we have grown and what we
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could have done better, and for the future we have learned.
So I hope that answers it.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Yeah, it does. But I will tell you that many
people do judge themselves.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
I'm one of those people. I definitely am. But when
we cross over, we get a bigger understanding of why
and who we were, and some of the toughest times
we have in our life become a gift where we
can help another human being. So try not to be
so hard on yourself.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
I don't want to cross over anytime soon, but I'm
sure it's even more wonderful than anybody can imagine.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
You can't cross over. We got two hundred plus more
episodes of Shades of the Afterlife to go. Well, Tom,
thanks so much for being our guest today.
Speaker 8 (31:55):
Of course, absolutely, I enjoyed it very much. Talking to
you me too. You're going to meet Danian Brinkley, who
first appeared on Shades of the Afterlife way back on
episode twenty nine. He is a man who has survived
three near death experiences, has written several books. In fact,
his New York Times best selling book Saved by the
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Light has sold over twenty million copies. His story was
made into a movie which has now been viewed over
one hundred million times. Our friend Danian Brinkley not only
talks about the afterlife, but has a passion for supporting
our veterans and actually all of humanity. As founder of
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the Twilight Brigade, Danian has spent thousands of hours by
the bedside of hundreds who have passed and believes all
of us should be educated in end of life care because,
in his words, if you're breathing, you're leaving.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Danian, welcome back to Shades of Afterlife and Sandra, congratulations.
Speaker 7 (33:03):
Two hundred episodes and it's a pleasure to be a
part of this. I think that the concept of the
near death experience is bringing such a new awareness to
this illusion of what we call death. I'm a devout
believer in that no one dies, and once a person
begins to grip that concept, a whole other level of
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consciousness opens up to them without ever having a near
death experience. So people just listen to these experiences and
always never believe everything you hear. But if you listen,
the construct that has controlled our reality of the illusion
of what's next. The near death experiences and programs like
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yours is washing away that illusion, and we're beginning to
realize the great, powerful and mighty nature of our spiritual identity.
And I'm really proud for you to have persevered through
the years with the diligent support of your mom to
make all this happen.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Oh, thanks so much for that. There's a lot of
people that are skeptical, Danian, but they're open. They want
to believe. What would you say to them.
Speaker 7 (34:09):
Open up your heart before you open up your mind,
Open up your heart, before you open up your mind,
and look at how it's constructed. The basic premise of
what happens, the lifting out of the body, the life review,
the consciousness awareness of who you are. No one dies,
and yes there's Hell's experiences, but that's about less than
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three percent. And if you listen to it intently saying,
you get a chance to hear what that person's working through.
So when you come up with the concept about people
being skeptical, I would have been skeptical myself, sayan because
I wouldn't have bought into it if it had not
happened to me. So I support that. But what people
really need to do is open up their hearts before
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they opened up their mind. We've all been conditioned with religions, institutions,
and governments with a fear of what we call death. Well,
what we call death never happens. I have been around
thousands of people. I have been with two thousand and
seventeen people going from this world to the next, and
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three hundred and fifty eight taken their last breath. And
I've been through a death experience and were literally three
near death experiences and had to be clinically resuscitated twice.
So spending the last forty eight years as a hospice
volunteer and going through these experiences, I can tell skeptics, believers, everyone,
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categorically you will not die. And what you have to
do is let go of the illusion of all the
things that religions and institutions and governments have perpetuated upon
us to get us to be less in control of
our divine self and thereby being better controlled by our
human self. And this is the paradigm that shift absolutely.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
And let's talk a little bit about hospice and end
of life training, because in our current day, most people
are hidden from death. People are in nursing homes, they
go to hospitals. How important is it for each one
of us to understand the dying process and what the
dying need, because, like you say, if we're breathing, we're leaving.
Speaker 7 (36:23):
It's imperative. Now, this is a personal viewpoint saying I
believe that evil has its greatest power in end of
life being having more than forty thousand dollars at the
bedside and watching what happens between the person in transition
and the family members. Evil controls, It destroys families, It
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creates bridges and relationships, It creates negligence, and people not
understanding this process plays right into the hands of those
who are trying to control us and trying to run
our lives and to keep us in fear. I'm a
giant believer in breathing because I believe that breath is
the most important thing that a person must focus on.
(37:06):
And how deep you breathe tells you how much you
appreciate the life you have. And if you're frightened and afraid,
then you breathe even less shallow and you get less
oxygen to your brain, which slows down your system. People
have to understand no one is going to die in
the way that you're told you transition and why I
(37:27):
became a hospice volunteers in the Life review saying, you
see your whole life pass before you in a three
hundred and sixty degree panorama. You watch it from a
first person point of view as though you were your
own best friend, and then you literally become every person
that you ever encounter, and you feel the direct results
of your interaction between you and that person. That means
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no one gets away with anything. No one's going to
save you from yourself. And at the end, and this
is a Danianism, you ask yourself this question. If I
couldn't come today and God sent you in the life
you just reviewed, what difference did you and God make?
That is the most important thing that I could tell
everyone in this audience listening. If God couldn't come today
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and God sent you or divinity, what difference did you
and Divinity make? Well, knowing that I was a marine
and knowing that veterans are literally neglected, and literally when
I came into this game, they were thousands a day
passing from World War One, World War two, and Korea.
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And when I looked at it, somebody had to do something.
So I went to work and created the Toilette Brigade,
which became one of the largest end of life care
volunteer programs for dying veterans in American history, and I
am the co author of the standard end of life
care model now used by the Veterans Administration called novet
Die Alone. What people have to get a grip on
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is the more you hide from the fact that if
you come here and you're breathing, you're leaving. And if
you just took a breath, how valuable is that breath
to your life? And to not educate yourself on the process,
which is inevitable, makes you a mistake and it leaves
people alaned, frightened, abandoned, and scared as they prepare to
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make the transition from this world back to where we
came from. Always remember we chose to come here, and
even more importantly, we were chosen to come here. And
once you were chosen, you make a decision of whether
you want to come or not. We are in control,
no matter what you think about not being in control,
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you are in control. And when you have that as
a mindset, like many indears have as a mindset. You
have a tendency to better control and run your life,
to be supportive of people in transition, and to be
there when they need you the most. Like I always
say for a veteran, they were there when we needed them.
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We must be there for them when they need us.
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Speaker 3 (41:39):
Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain,
and this is our two hundredth episode celebration. We're talking
to Danian Brinkley, struck by lightning, has had three near
death experiences and you can hear his entire story on
episode twenty nine. You were just talking about our veterans.
Speaker 7 (42:02):
They were there when we needed them. We must be
there for them when they need us. And the most
important thing is this transition is an inevitable part of
this life. To hide from it in religion or religions,
or institutions or government programs, to hide from it and
avoid it is a mistake. Why we end up neglecting
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the celebration of the life of those who we love,
and we put them in a position to drag on
and carry on and stay here so much longer than
they were designed to be here.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Thank you for that, Danian. We have a lot of
people listening to your words right now that are grieving
from the physical deaths of a loved one. What message
would you have for them today?
Speaker 7 (42:45):
Of first, I want to tell them that I love
each and every one of them very much. And second,
loss is an inevitable part of this program. And trust me,
you only want to stay here as long as you
are required to get the job done you were sent
to do, and then you want to get the heck
out of here. I don't want to stay any longer,
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although the fear of death is what drives me to
keep getting up from the quote unquote dead and to
keep pushing this message because we live in an illusion
and it's a delusional perspective that we're living in, and
we're not truly understanding the divinity of our spiritual selves.
Everyone who is listening and everyone who is not listening
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is a great, powerful and mighty spiritual being with dignity, direction,
and purpose. The only thing that can ever go wrong
in your life is you allow something to affect your dignity,
which kews your direction and your purpose. And what the
biggest thing is is how lower of an opinion you
have about yourself, which is what affects your dignity. And
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when I can get people to grip that, then the
consciousness elevates sam What happens is there the vibration changes.
Religions and institutions in governments control how we view ourselves. Guilt, sins, suffering,
you're going to heaven, You're going the hell. You're going
to be eternally burned and damned and all that garbage.
(44:13):
None of that stuff ever happens. You are responsible for
this life, and you're responsible for the choices that you
make in this life. And for all of you who
are grieving, then that's natural. You process the separation, but
remember you will see them again and you will be reunited,
and you'll laugh about the whole process that you just
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went through. You'll laugh about it because the celebration of
this life is the most important thing. That you were
chosen to come here to be an integral part of
a program unfolding. And if you believe like I do,
we're living in a new age. The world I was
born in seventy four years ago has disappeared, and now
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I'm watching the unfoldment of a new world and a
new reality being formed. And so is all the rest
of us. Say, so we are the light bearerst We
are those who hold this place of divine spirituality so
that people can see, within the framework of the transition
that we're going through, that there is stability, and in
(45:20):
that stability comes warmth, secure and a knowingness that we
came to do a job. We get that job done,
and we get the heck out of here unless they
call us to come again. So listen, everybody. It's okay
to feel the loss of someone you have loved. It's
so so okay to feel the sense of loneliness. But
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I want to tell people, and this is the truth
that you've ever heard it before, in the spiritual world,
there is no such thing as helplessness and loneliness. It's
the big lie. You come here and you take on
a belief that you can be helpless when you're born
and when you leave, and you can be lonely based
on the opinion you have of yourself are the opinion
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you think other people have of you. So helplessness and
loneliness are the controlling mechanisms that are the undercurrent that
controls our lives. So if you've lost someone, Heaven's gained them.
And as you grieve bereavement, it's natural. But remember it's
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as short as a life is, and you will be
reconnected with that person. It'll be in a different form everybody.
Because we take on characters, we take on personalities, We
design ourselves a certain way so that we fulfill the
design divine spiritual need that we were chosen to come here,
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and I'd like to tell everybody else this. The fact
that you were chosen to come here at this particular
time means there is no one better than you to
do the job that the divine get you to do.
So when you're sitting quietly and you're missing someone, take
a bowl of water. Get a small bowl of water
(47:09):
and put up into salt that's your body. Take a
birthday candle and pick their favorite color. And take that
birthday candle, and remember the flame is red, orange, yellow, blue, green, indigo,
and violet. All the colors of the spectrum is in
that candle flame. And as that birthday candle burns down,
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when you're sitting there and that candle flickers and goes out,
you think of the funniest thing that ever happened between
you and the person that you're missing. And you'll be
sitting in the dark laughing. But so will they, because
laughter crosses every boundary, Love crosses every boundary. Sadness, loneliness
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and despair only thickens and never moves very far past
the physical mental consciousness. But laughter, joy and celebration and
in the love of life, and you will quietly be
sitting in dark laughing but you will know that they
feel you, they hear you, and they're surrounded with you
with as much love as they're allowed to give back
(48:12):
over here, because messing up the job that you came
to do could easily be done if they appeared. And
also remember to slow your vibration down to come back
into this densa a reality is very difficult. And also
if we knew exactly that connection stayed, then we wouldn't
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stay focused on our job. I need everybody to know
that I love them and I have seen who we
are once again. We are great, powerful and mighty spiritual
beings with dignity, direction and purpose. The only thing that
can ever go wrong is you allow something to affect
your dignity, which skews your direction and your purpose. So
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when you look in the mirror, who is that person?
When you look in the mirror, what is that person's
aims and goals? And make sure every day those are clarified,
and at the end of each day go back and
see how well you maintained. The panoramic life review is
the greatest gift we are given to know. You're going
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to see your entire life pass before you. You're going
to watch it from a second person point of view,
as though you were your own best friend. Now, what
a delightful way to pass from this world to the next,
knowing that your best friend is telling you, oh, God, Daniel,
how stupid could you be? But you know that they
love you and they don't care. And the other thing
(49:37):
is when they pat you on the back, they are saying,
what a great job. You get a chance to see
your life from that point of view, and then you're
going to be every person that you've ever encountered. And
for most people, that experience is the greatest joy. All
the things you think you've done wrong, it's never what
you did, it was why you did it. Intention. The
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intent of why you did something becomes the single most
important thing. So everybody, please pay attention to the reason
why you're doing it, not why you're doing it. And
please don't be as big a fool as I was.
Because the first panoramic life review was horrible, the second
one was a lot better, the third one I even
(50:23):
got better, and the fourth one I began to truly
appreciate myself and the efforts I have put forth and
the pain I've gone through that it all has meaning
and understanding, and it only makes me love each and
every one of you who have anything to do with
Coast to Coast more than they could possibly imagine.
Speaker 3 (50:43):
Danian, thank you so much for the difference you've made
in my life and many others, and for being here
on our two hundredth celebration episode.
Speaker 7 (50:53):
And Sandra, thank you for persevering putting these shows together
and bringing this opportunity for people like me to be
able to try to open up hearts. Before you open
up your mind. Nobody ever dies. It will never happen.
Everybody never, and the process of why you come here
(51:15):
for such a short period of time, which eighty years
is not a very long time, is designed that way.
So you get here, you get the job done, and
you get home. So everybody, please open up your heart
for a moment. Send Sandra and her mom all the
love that you could possibly send. Send deep appreciation, and
(51:36):
know that we who are members of the Knight who
love Coast to Coast and all the programs because I've
been on Coast to Coast since I think nineteen ninety four,
and I appreciate everybody, and I thank you for even
considering putting me on this show and happy celebration of
two hundred episodes.
Speaker 3 (51:57):
Oh wonderful words. Thank you so much and for all
that are listening. You can find out more about Daniel
and his work and his books at light Streamers dot com. Wow,
so much passion and truth in his words. I don't
know about you, my friends, but I'll be listening to
(52:18):
these words again and I feel so humbled by the
words from George Nori and Tom dan Heiser. I'm sure,
just like you, you find something good you want to
share it with others. And I have so much appreciation
for our friends at iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM
for giving me this platform to share with you. Also,
(52:40):
my home base is we Don't Die dot com. At
the bottom of the page. There you can enter your
name and email address and get a free copy of
my book We Don't Die, a skeptics discovery of life
after death. It says it's just the first few chapters,
it's the entire higher book. We also offer a free
(53:03):
Sunday gathering inspirational service with medium demonstration included. And I
always say the best way to experience the power of
your soul is to take a class, and you might
want to join our Soul to Soul communication class. In closing,
never forget that your loved ones reside and the invisible
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space around you. They love you, They are part of
your lives, and you will see them again. I'm Sandra Champlain,
and from the bottom of my heart, thank you for
being part of our two hundredth episode celebration of Shades
of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast
(53:46):
am Pirinormal Podcast Network.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
Thanks for listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast
Day and Paranormal Podcast Network. Make sure and check out
all our shows on the iHeartRadio app or by going
to iHeartRadio dot com.
Speaker 6 (54:08):
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