The latest edition of 'The All-Star Panel' features Rugby Writers Phil Gifford and Jamie Wall.
On this weekend's agenda:
Have people forgotten about the Cricket World Cup already? The Premier League decided to keep the VAR, and was the Joseph Sua'a'li'i tackle worthy of a send-off?
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the All Sport Breakfast podcast with Darcy
Waltergrave from News Talks be All Sports Breakfast, All Star Pedal.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
And Here Come the Usurpers were joined the All Star
panel by Phil Gifford.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Good morning to you, sir, from Morning Morning. That was
a bit cruel.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Well, you know, life's tough. Life is a stern father,
as I like to say. Jamie wall joins as well
with the tweet of the week last night bloody hell
when this was supposed to be the interesting quarter final.
Good day, Jamie, how are you?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Morning guys, Sorry Clay Morning four Morning Morning.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
We'll start off with last night, Jamie Waller, it was interesting.
If you're a Chiefs fan, what was a point a
minute for this or first quarter?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Then it's all over?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Yeah, If I was a Chief man, I'll be feeling
pretty happy about the way it went last night.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
They have.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I think it's fair to say they haven't quite lived
up to the expectations that were put on them at
the start when everyone was basically give them the trophy now,
just given the strength of their squad and everything like that,
and even though they've had a few hiccups along the way,
if they can pick up the pace and come right
at the right end. This is the right time to
be doing it. And saying that, I was pretty disappointed
(01:23):
with the Reds, but at the same time I'm kind
of not surprised. They have been wildly in consistence this year.
That's been their main failing after they just sort of
picked up a few wins in games that they got
tripped up in, like for example, Mina, they lost to
one of PACIFICA and you know, they could have had
a home a home semi final. You know, they could
(01:44):
have finished in the top three. They were looking good
to be the best Australian team, but they just lost
the games that they shouldn't have and finished on a
just really abjectly poor performance. I think they let the
Chiefs just run right through them. You know, no disrespect
to the Rebels, but the Hurricanes are probably going to
get this one today. So it's looking forward to a
(02:05):
really fisting semi final next weekend here in Wellington. When
the Chiefs played the Hurrican, it's the vagaries.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Phil Gifford of the drawer. You win the camp, your
top of the round robin and your reward as a
semi final against the Chiefs. The Blues are going, Actually,
that's not so bad. We finished second. We're all right there, powe,
aren't we.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah, yeah, not too bad. Look just quickly about the Chiefs,
Can I just say I don't altogether agree it look
the Reds, Yes, they looked absolutely useless. In the first
twenty minutes. They looked incompetent. But I also think in
that first twenty minutes there are things that sometimes happened
in rake Mey and I reckon it happened with the
Chiefs last night where for some reason I go back
(02:47):
to a game in christ Church where the war Retards,
who were second in the competition were beaten by something
like seventy points by the Crusader. No, no, no, I'll
move on. I'll move on. I'll move on. I'll move
on quickly from that, because there are moments, and it
happened in Sydney in two thousand, in the first fifteen
minut of what the best Test match I've ever seen
(03:08):
in front of one hundred thousand people in Sydney, when
the All Backs ran up something like twenty one points
and fourteen minutes. There are times that are just freakish
where every crazy, stupid thing happens, and that try with
the behind the back passes, the wings flying out in
space over the top of the touchline, and all that
sort of stuff that the Chiefs had. There are times
when for some reason just everything clicks for one team
(03:33):
and everything goes dog for the other. And if you
take that twenty minutes away, then the Chiefs was still
by part of the est team, don't get me wrong,
and the Reds I agree entirely. Jamien has been very
inconsistent all season. But I think if the Chiefs can
capture something like those twenty minutes, then, by god, just
as you say to us, oh thanks so much, seeing
the chief standard players, that'll be the best fun in
(03:55):
the world, because that was the sort of putting that
the people in Hamilton and the way Cato I'm sure
have been hoping you get from the Chiefs all season,
and by god, they sure have got it in the
first twenty Well.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
You'd like to say, think, I'm not quite sure what's
more popular, lessons or learnings, but I'd say lessons correct.
So it's about them from last year peaking to early
lessons learned or learning's lessened a month or so. Which
way that goes round enough already, Jamie. The makeup of
the top eight. We talked with Kevin mclloy last week
(04:27):
about what earlier this week what they're going to do
around that finals qualification series. Looks like they're leaning toward
a top six. What needs to change, do you think?
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
I mean, first off, I want to say I'm obviously
it's an area of really easy criticism because it is
kind of ridiculous to have eight teams out of twelve
quarter fly for the finals. However, you've got to remember
that this was originally put in place at the back
end of COVID where they simply needed as much rugby
on TV as possible to make as much broadcasting money,
(05:01):
and it's sort of just lapsing to the end of
that once we've sort of come out the back into that.
So I will give super Agi and Senza just a
bit of like leeway on that one, but yeah, it
is time. It is time to change. I guess six
makes sense, but given that there's only going to be
eleven teams next year, you are still having more than
(05:22):
half of the team's qualify for the playoffs, which still
does leave it open to a bit of scrutiny, right, so.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I better.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
It's better, I'll give it that, But I personally I'd
like to have a top five system where the whoever
finishes top of the table gets by the other two teams,
the other four teams played two matches and then the
bottom one drops out like the old I think it
was the old MacIntire system back in the you know.
I feel like that would be the best way, and
it would also give an incentive to to finish top
(05:53):
as well as having home some home home advantage for
the finals.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
This is key thing. What I like about this fell
is that they're quite open at sands are now and
find it really easy to get on the phone actually
call these people and they come on air and talk.
But they're very adam they actually need to walk the
fan centric walk, and they want to do what the
NRL do and they want to about it just on
the fly. What's wrong, what's not working, let's look at it,
(06:17):
let's change it. And I think that's a huge positive
for the competition.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Phil exactly. A bit of open mindedness and rugby administration
never goes a miss. I think we haven't seen a
hell of a lot of it in New Zealand in
the last few weeks, but we'll move on from that.
I look, it's just in passing now. While I suggested
that I wanted to completely in tune with Jamie about
whether the Reds were just crap and the Chiefs were
(06:43):
that good, but what I do think is I think
the five for me is a hell of a good
idea because at the moment there isn't a huge yuf
I suppose it means you're playing what's supposed to be
the worst team in the competition of the qualifiers, I mean,
but I think an incentive to finish first in the
round robin, I think that's a very important thing. And
(07:04):
I also think, just as Jamie says, they want as
much footy as they can get, and it's become almost
fascal this year because we've got, you know, this this
huge quarter final and virtually nobody out of it. But
if you've got if you've got a five where for
the first week the four playoff and then then you
move on and then you move on to the final,
(07:26):
then that to me gives you plenty of footy, and
that also feels a bit more competitive than it is
at the moment, where It's almost like, well, why didn't
why didn't we play one? On twelve? Play one? And
I don't know what what what? What's even bigger than
a quarterfinal? I'm not the sixteenth final or something. I
don't know, but you know what I mean. I think
(07:47):
having it, having an incentive to finish person around Robin
is a hell of a good idea and it just
feels a bit more like a genuine competition rather than
we're not going to disappoint anybody. Everybody virtually is going
to get a shot of it.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
It's going to give on a certificate. Philly, You've all
won everybody with your Phil Geford and Jamie Wall are
an all star panel. More talking sport coming up next
here on News Talk's eb It is thirteen from nine.
(08:23):
Phil Girford and Jamie Wall still on the panel. I
haven't deserted me. In the last couple of minutes. We're
talking about code before and I'll go back to I'll
tell you what, Jamie, your tweet decks of constant entertainment
for me. You shouldn't pump your tires up that much,
but I will anyway, you know, like this one as well.
We're talking about Joseph sauler Ee and what happened with
(08:46):
him in the Origin Number one sent off with that
head high after all seven or eight minutes, Jamie writes.
If people think this is the low point of Joseph's career,
just remember he signed with the Waratahs next season. Nice one, Jamie.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
I mean, at least he's going to get a one
against Crusaders, right.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
I'm going right, spopulator.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Mate work, Yeah, you're on your own.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
No, But seriously, I just on the incident itself, I
think that it has been an interesting test case for
regul league and for Origin, where just for years or decades,
it's been kind of presumed that there's a different set
of rules or at least less rules in it, and
you know, something that would probably get dealt with at
(09:40):
club level is allowed to go at an ORIGIN level
and that's just just not the case anymore. They can't
they can't do that. And I think the reaction to
this where most people are agreeing that yeah, it's definite
send off, while also at the same time kind of
acknowledging that Sweli was a little bit unlucky. You know,
it's not like he went out with his stiff arm
(10:03):
and targeted his head. I personally think that he was
trying to make a tackle there, but being unlucky and
being fairly sent off aren't mutually exclusive anymore, and I
think players need to realize that. But I've always been
a big component of these sort of things of the
years that really the owners should be on coaches to
(10:26):
be teaching the players how to tackle better and really
putting in the importance of just how just how much
of an effect sindoff has because in rugby league, especially
like there is not that's the game where someone getting
in to off will have the most effect.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
On a game.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
So I think coaches really need to probably be held
more accountable as to why the sewer stuff's happened.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Well, the problem there fell, of course with that tackles.
He look at it and I've looked it far too
many times for my own good. But obviously Reese Walsh slipped,
but at that stage Joseph an actually tender's head. He
wasn't looking at where the contact was, so he had
no way of avoiding that.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Clipse.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yes, it's very very fast, difficult to pull out, but
his arms weren't in the position of rapping because he
thought he was going to hit the torso of course
he clattered into their head first with his shoulder. So
there's a whole lot of different variations of that tackle.
But maybe if he had actually been looking at the
man he was tackling, it might not have happened.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Well, yeah, that's quite possible. That Look, you can go
back forwards. I mean, the brutal reality is it wasn't
that long ago that an absolutely sickening tackle like that,
whether it was an accident of whether it was deliberate,
it was almost a material I guess with the damage
that potentially can be done and was done that sort
of thing not that long ago you would have had
(11:48):
to commentator and saying.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Oh, what a tackle.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
He's in tuosy Land. Fantastic, you know, And that definitely
used to be the attitude. And I think I'm just
sort of glad that Rugby League, the NRL and state
of Origin, which basically has sudden seem to acknowledge that
in the twenty first century we're aware of the fact
and an actual fact, you can cause appalling damage to
(12:14):
a person's brain with.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
God, they've walked out of the cave film. This is crazy.
What's happening in the world, mad Mine, Hey, we're going
to go. We're going to We're running out of time.
I need a couple of words from the both of
you though, around what's happening. At eleven thirty, the Cricket
World Cup T twenty version starts for the black Caps, Jamie.
If the rain comes, it could kai bosh, because they've
(12:38):
got two pretty difficult games to start with easy games
toward the end. But in this short format, it's upsets
are all all up for the taking, aren't they.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (12:48):
I think the start of this tournament has a shine
that there are no easy games, given that the pitchers
are playing the way they are in the unfamiliar conditions
and everything. I think that the black Caps can't take
any game for granted, and I'm I'm just glad that
they've managed to have a few results put in front
of them to remind them of that. But honestly, I
(13:09):
think that the main point of this tournament is much
bigger than simply in New Zealand doing well. How this
game can potentially tap into this huge market. And we've
heard so for so many years about how sports are
trying outside sports are trying to do this in America.
I think this is the cricket has the best chance
yet and I think that the wash up of this
tournament could be really, really game changing for the sport.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Fell yours, please well.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
T twenty is exact the perfect way to do it
if you're going to go to the States, because I mean,
I've been lucky enough to go to a few decent
baseball games in America over the years, and I really
love baseball, but oh my god, it takes a long
time for the goners to play out. If you think
test cricket takes this time, Minnesota's Major League Baseball. T twenty,
on the other hand, is like frenetic as we all know,
(13:58):
and of course it makes it even more dramatic. Enterppose
when you've got a pitch that means that it's a
little bit like the NRL back in the days when
they like people being sent to Disneyland because I just
don't know what the hell the ball is going to do.
So from in a slightly brutal sort of way, I
think this is the perfect format to take cricket to
the United States.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Guys, well, I'll leave you with this. Ben Malo is
never going to forgive me because I've been replaying it
constantly since he said it. But he's a twenty five
year sports broadcast state side right across the whole of
the States. This is what he said about the T
twenty Cricket World Cup. While I've got you here, the
USA beat Pakistan and the T twenty World Cup. It's
(14:41):
a huge boilover. Has it got any traction at all
in sport radio in the States. I have not heard
any noise here about the US soccer team winning and
beating Pakistan, but I will take note of that.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Darcy.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
There you go, lads. You go, lads done, take a
note of the soccer Jamie wall Feel Giffert, thank you
so much for both of your times expertise. It is
six minutes to nine.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
And Here Come the Usurpers were joined the All Star
panel by Phil Gifford.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Good morning to you, sir, from Morning Morning. That was
a bit cruel.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Well, you know, life's tough. Life is a stern father,
as I like to say. Jamie wall joins as well
with the tweet of the week last night bloody hell
when this was supposed to be the interesting quarter final.
Good day, Jamie, how are you?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Morning guys, Sorry Clay Morning four Morning Morning.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
We'll start off with last night, Jamie Waller, it was interesting.
If you're a Chiefs fan, what was a point a
minute for this or first quarter?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Then it's all over?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Yeah, If I was a Chief man, I'll be feeling
pretty happy about the way it went last night.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
They have.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I think it's fair to say they haven't quite lived
up to the expectations that were put on them at
the start when everyone was basically give them the trophy now,
just given the strength of their squad and everything like that,
and even though they've had a few hiccups along the way,
if they can pick up the pace and come right
at the right end. This is the right time to
be doing it. And saying that, I was pretty disappointed
(01:23):
with the Reds, but at the same time I'm kind
of not surprised. They have been wildly in consistence this year.
That's been their main failing after they just sort of
picked up a few wins in games that they got
tripped up in, like for example, Mina, they lost to
one of PACIFICA and you know, they could have had
a home a home semi final. You know, they could
(01:44):
have finished in the top three. They were looking good
to be the best Australian team, but they just lost
the games that they shouldn't have and finished on a
just really abjectly poor performance. I think they let the
Chiefs just run right through them. You know, no disrespect
to the Rebels, but the Hurricanes are probably going to
get this one today. So it's looking forward to a
(02:05):
really fisting semi final next weekend here in Wellington. When
the Chiefs played the Hurrican, it's the vagaries.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Phil Gifford of the drawer. You win the camp, your
top of the round robin and your reward as a
semi final against the Chiefs. The Blues are going, Actually,
that's not so bad. We finished second. We're all right there, powe,
aren't we.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah, yeah, not too bad. Look just quickly about the Chiefs,
Can I just say I don't altogether agree it look
the Reds, Yes, they looked absolutely useless. In the first
twenty minutes. They looked incompetent. But I also think in
that first twenty minutes there are things that sometimes happened
in rake Mey and I reckon it happened with the
Chiefs last night where for some reason I go back
(02:47):
to a game in christ Church where the war Retards,
who were second in the competition were beaten by something
like seventy points by the Crusader. No, no, no, I'll
move on. I'll move on. I'll move on. I'll move
on quickly from that, because there are moments, and it
happened in Sydney in two thousand, in the first fifteen
minut of what the best Test match I've ever seen
(03:08):
in front of one hundred thousand people in Sydney, when
the All Backs ran up something like twenty one points
and fourteen minutes. There are times that are just freakish
where every crazy, stupid thing happens, and that try with
the behind the back passes, the wings flying out in
space over the top of the touchline, and all that
sort of stuff that the Chiefs had. There are times
when for some reason just everything clicks for one team
(03:33):
and everything goes dog for the other. And if you
take that twenty minutes away, then the Chiefs was still
by part of the est team, don't get me wrong,
and the Reds I agree entirely. Jamien has been very
inconsistent all season. But I think if the Chiefs can
capture something like those twenty minutes, then, by god, just
as you say to us, oh thanks so much, seeing
the chief standard players, that'll be the best fun in
(03:55):
the world, because that was the sort of putting that
the people in Hamilton and the way Cato I'm sure
have been hoping you get from the Chiefs all season,
and by god, they sure have got it in the
first twenty Well.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
You'd like to say, think, I'm not quite sure what's
more popular, lessons or learnings, but I'd say lessons correct.
So it's about them from last year peaking to early
lessons learned or learning's lessened a month or so. Which
way that goes round enough already, Jamie. The makeup of
the top eight. We talked with Kevin mclloy last week
(04:27):
about what earlier this week what they're going to do
around that finals qualification series. Looks like they're leaning toward
a top six. What needs to change, do you think?
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
I mean, first off, I want to say I'm obviously
it's an area of really easy criticism because it is
kind of ridiculous to have eight teams out of twelve
quarter fly for the finals. However, you've got to remember
that this was originally put in place at the back
end of COVID where they simply needed as much rugby
on TV as possible to make as much broadcasting money,
(05:01):
and it's sort of just lapsing to the end of
that once we've sort of come out the back into that.
So I will give super Agi and Senza just a
bit of like leeway on that one, but yeah, it
is time. It is time to change. I guess six
makes sense, but given that there's only going to be
eleven teams next year, you are still having more than
(05:22):
half of the team's qualify for the playoffs, which still
does leave it open to a bit of scrutiny, right, so.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I better.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
It's better, I'll give it that, But I personally I'd
like to have a top five system where the whoever
finishes top of the table gets by the other two teams,
the other four teams played two matches and then the
bottom one drops out like the old I think it
was the old MacIntire system back in the you know.
I feel like that would be the best way, and
it would also give an incentive to to finish top
(05:53):
as well as having home some home home advantage for
the finals.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
This is key thing. What I like about this fell
is that they're quite open at sands are now and
find it really easy to get on the phone actually
call these people and they come on air and talk.
But they're very adam they actually need to walk the
fan centric walk, and they want to do what the
NRL do and they want to about it just on
the fly. What's wrong, what's not working, let's look at it,
(06:17):
let's change it. And I think that's a huge positive
for the competition.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Phil exactly. A bit of open mindedness and rugby administration
never goes a miss. I think we haven't seen a
hell of a lot of it in New Zealand in
the last few weeks, but we'll move on from that.
I look, it's just in passing now. While I suggested
that I wanted to completely in tune with Jamie about
whether the Reds were just crap and the Chiefs were
(06:43):
that good, but what I do think is I think
the five for me is a hell of a good
idea because at the moment there isn't a huge yuf
I suppose it means you're playing what's supposed to be
the worst team in the competition of the qualifiers, I mean,
but I think an incentive to finish first in the
round robin, I think that's a very important thing. And
(07:04):
I also think, just as Jamie says, they want as
much footy as they can get, and it's become almost
fascal this year because we've got, you know, this this
huge quarter final and virtually nobody out of it. But
if you've got if you've got a five where for
the first week the four playoff and then then you
move on and then you move on to the final,
(07:26):
then that to me gives you plenty of footy, and
that also feels a bit more competitive than it is
at the moment, where It's almost like, well, why didn't
why didn't we play one? On twelve? Play one? And
I don't know what what what? What's even bigger than
a quarterfinal? I'm not the sixteenth final or something. I
don't know, but you know what I mean. I think
(07:47):
having it, having an incentive to finish person around Robin
is a hell of a good idea and it just
feels a bit more like a genuine competition rather than
we're not going to disappoint anybody. Everybody virtually is going
to get a shot of it.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
It's going to give on a certificate. Philly, You've all
won everybody with your Phil Geford and Jamie Wall are
an all star panel. More talking sport coming up next
here on News Talk's eb It is thirteen from nine.
(08:23):
Phil Girford and Jamie Wall still on the panel. I
haven't deserted me. In the last couple of minutes. We're
talking about code before and I'll go back to I'll
tell you what, Jamie, your tweet decks of constant entertainment
for me. You shouldn't pump your tires up that much,
but I will anyway, you know, like this one as well.
We're talking about Joseph sauler Ee and what happened with
(08:46):
him in the Origin Number one sent off with that
head high after all seven or eight minutes, Jamie writes.
If people think this is the low point of Joseph's career,
just remember he signed with the Waratahs next season. Nice one, Jamie.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
I mean, at least he's going to get a one
against Crusaders, right.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
I'm going right, spopulator.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Mate work, Yeah, you're on your own.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
No, But seriously, I just on the incident itself, I
think that it has been an interesting test case for
regul league and for Origin, where just for years or decades,
it's been kind of presumed that there's a different set
of rules or at least less rules in it, and
you know, something that would probably get dealt with at
(09:40):
club level is allowed to go at an ORIGIN level
and that's just just not the case anymore. They can't
they can't do that. And I think the reaction to
this where most people are agreeing that yeah, it's definite
send off, while also at the same time kind of
acknowledging that Sweli was a little bit unlucky. You know,
it's not like he went out with his stiff arm
(10:03):
and targeted his head. I personally think that he was
trying to make a tackle there, but being unlucky and
being fairly sent off aren't mutually exclusive anymore, and I
think players need to realize that. But I've always been
a big component of these sort of things of the
years that really the owners should be on coaches to
(10:26):
be teaching the players how to tackle better and really
putting in the importance of just how just how much
of an effect sindoff has because in rugby league, especially
like there is not that's the game where someone getting
in to off will have the most effect.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
On a game.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
So I think coaches really need to probably be held
more accountable as to why the sewer stuff's happened.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Well, the problem there fell, of course with that tackles.
He look at it and I've looked it far too
many times for my own good. But obviously Reese Walsh slipped,
but at that stage Joseph an actually tender's head. He
wasn't looking at where the contact was, so he had
no way of avoiding that.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Clipse.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yes, it's very very fast, difficult to pull out, but
his arms weren't in the position of rapping because he
thought he was going to hit the torso of course
he clattered into their head first with his shoulder. So
there's a whole lot of different variations of that tackle.
But maybe if he had actually been looking at the
man he was tackling, it might not have happened.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Well, yeah, that's quite possible. That Look, you can go
back forwards. I mean, the brutal reality is it wasn't
that long ago that an absolutely sickening tackle like that,
whether it was an accident of whether it was deliberate,
it was almost a material I guess with the damage
that potentially can be done and was done that sort
of thing not that long ago you would have had
(11:48):
to commentator and saying.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Oh, what a tackle.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
He's in tuosy Land. Fantastic, you know, And that definitely
used to be the attitude. And I think I'm just
sort of glad that Rugby League, the NRL and state
of Origin, which basically has sudden seem to acknowledge that
in the twenty first century we're aware of the fact
and an actual fact, you can cause appalling damage to
(12:14):
a person's brain with.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
God, they've walked out of the cave film. This is crazy.
What's happening in the world, mad Mine, Hey, we're going
to go. We're going to We're running out of time.
I need a couple of words from the both of
you though, around what's happening. At eleven thirty, the Cricket
World Cup T twenty version starts for the black Caps, Jamie.
If the rain comes, it could kai bosh, because they've
(12:38):
got two pretty difficult games to start with easy games
toward the end. But in this short format, it's upsets
are all all up for the taking, aren't they.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (12:48):
I think the start of this tournament has a shine
that there are no easy games, given that the pitchers
are playing the way they are in the unfamiliar conditions
and everything. I think that the black Caps can't take
any game for granted, and I'm I'm just glad that
they've managed to have a few results put in front
of them to remind them of that. But honestly, I
(13:09):
think that the main point of this tournament is much
bigger than simply in New Zealand doing well. How this
game can potentially tap into this huge market. And we've
heard so for so many years about how sports are
trying outside sports are trying to do this in America.
I think this is the cricket has the best chance
yet and I think that the wash up of this
tournament could be really, really game changing for the sport.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Fell yours, please well.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
T twenty is exact the perfect way to do it
if you're going to go to the States, because I mean,
I've been lucky enough to go to a few decent
baseball games in America over the years, and I really
love baseball, but oh my god, it takes a long
time for the goners to play out. If you think
test cricket takes this time, Minnesota's Major League Baseball. T twenty,
on the other hand, is like frenetic as we all know,
(13:58):
and of course it makes it even more dramatic. Enterppose
when you've got a pitch that means that it's a
little bit like the NRL back in the days when
they like people being sent to Disneyland because I just
don't know what the hell the ball is going to do.
So from in a slightly brutal sort of way, I
think this is the perfect format to take cricket to
the United States.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Guys, well, I'll leave you with this. Ben Malo is
never going to forgive me because I've been replaying it
constantly since he said it. But he's a twenty five
year sports broadcast state side right across the whole of
the States. This is what he said about the T
twenty Cricket World Cup. While I've got you here, the
USA beat Pakistan and the T twenty World Cup. It's
(14:41):
a huge boilover. Has it got any traction at all
in sport radio in the States. I have not heard
any noise here about the US soccer team winning and
beating Pakistan, but I will take note of that.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Darcy.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
There you go, lads. You go, lads done, take a
note of the soccer Jamie wall Feel Giffert, thank you
so much for both of your times expertise. It is
six minutes to nine.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
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