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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the All Sport Breakfast podcast with Darcy
Waldgrave from News Talks be All Sports Breakfast, All Star panel.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
At Pesky sanitize what you had to me again, I'll
tell you Graham is sports freak. Beezy joins us on
the panel. Have you beat up on any sanitary products recently?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Graham, Not that I can remember. Good morning Darcy. You
know some some people say that these these cricketers don't care,
but I think that hand sanitizer were big to differ.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Oh mine, it'll be a talk roll next to Alex Powell.
That's it'll be. You'll rip it out of the wall
and unravel the towel.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Yeah, absolutely, and let that's how I'll have it.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Morning Dark, Good morning, Alex Powell, right, digital editor from
the New Zealander Herald. Let's talk some turkey s. First up,
I suppose mister Beezy. I know you're excited about what's
happening on afternoon Football. But before we look to all that,
let's look back shock and awe promised they never chance
to day twenty minutes and then they're standing and going what
just happened to us? That was impressive? That first water,
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It really was.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
It was kind of all all over by then. I
mean I thought, I thought the brother Is actually from
that point did okay, And you know they didn't let
it really blow out. But see the Blues, I mean,
if they if they can play like that for a
full half next week, they're going to be They're going
to be very hard to beat. There was there was
quite something.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, I suppose, Alexi, it's a matter of if they
can play that, if the opposition will actually let them
do that. I was surprised at the attitude of the
brummi Is in that first twenty minutes. So did they
even have a chance to do anything?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Do you think? No?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
It didn't look like it. But that's just how well
the Blues played. They didn't get a sniff. You know,
the Blues took their foot off the gas after twenty minutes.
They could have played like that for a whole game,
you imagined, but they just didn't need to. They've obviously
got one eye on what's happening next week and keeping
guys fresh for it and.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Talking about that. The opposition will be Graham, I know
which way you're going to lean or I don't know
what the weather's looking like. Down, give us the skinny.
What's happening in welling Town for a four to thirty
five kickoff?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Beautiful glassy? Absolutely, you know there's there's this song and
all that kind of stuff. It's just not that great.
But I mean it's fine. There's a bit of a breeze,
so it'll be it'll be chilly, but from the forecast
looks of it won't rain this afternoon. There might be
some rain later on, so yeah, I mean it's going
to be close to full house. Four thirty kickoffs work.
(02:28):
I agree on the Yeah, absolutely prove that too.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, and a great move. Well, yeah, you can't have
a kickoff at a game of rugby and Orkham on
a Friday night at seven o'clock then we can get there.
They're just not interested. It's insane. So you're basically saying
you can't beat Wellington on a good day, But Alex Pell,
can you beat the Wellington rugby team on a good day?
Speaker 4 (02:51):
I mean that's the thing going into this game. It
doesn't really feel like we've had a performance from the
Chiefs this season where you just stop and think, wow,
you know, the Hurricanes have beaten them already this season
and you'd you know, you'd like to think they'll do
it again, but you just don't know. If the chief
turn up at their best, I think they're going to
give the Hurricanes a hard time.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Well possibly, Graham, do you see that happening. Do you
think there's a possibility that the Hurricanes might get overwhelmed
over awed with the situation. I've got to say, well done,
Wellington crowds. I'm not only to pack out the game
that Phoenix game, You're going to do it again for
this Hurricanes game. Can you do it again?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
The Firebirds, Well, we do like a good bandwagon, that's sure,
and we do like to build a hype and the
week leading up to it, and I just think that
that's really cool. You know, that's all part of the
fun about getting a full crowd, of the anticipation of
that and all the hype during the week. And they
really have changed things around. So this is our third
(03:49):
four thirty pm game in a row, and it is
quite different. They really are making an effort to make
it family friendly. And I know that's sound all pretty
tried and the cliche and all that kind of stuff,
but there's a lot more music that's been played during
the game. I mean, it's not to one's taste. They
actually encourage you to do the Mexican which is I
think the first time I've ever seen that happen. You know,
it's on the on the ground, anounce to come on,
(04:11):
three to one go. You know, they have kiss cam
and all that kind of stuff. So, as I said
to someone during the week, it almost feels a bit
like the Sevens without the booze. Wow, And and it
really does seem to work.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Okay, good, Well, the Sevens without the boos famously didn't work.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Thanks very much for reminding me that's under it. In
the end, let's get away from winners. Let's talk about
alex I can forgive the Black Cats for one very
shoddy performance after having no preparation leading into the two
most important names at the start of this tournament, but
two performances in a row like that, then we start being, oh,
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this is actually tough for us to swallow. What's your
make on this?
Speaker 4 (04:55):
What's a call on I mean, look, I've tossed and
turned a lot in the last couple of days about
what we've seen, but I think the reality is they're
just they've just been beaten by two better teams. You
know why that's happened is because they've not taken the
preparation as serious as they should have. But you're asking
guys to come back from the IPL and not spend
time with their families. Like, if you do that at
(05:15):
any job, you're going to get told where to go
pretty quickly. Say sorry, you can't see your kids, so
you can schlep out to the caravan. So I don't
really know what more New Zealand Cricket could have asked
of this team in that sense.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
What about you, Graham? Is that a case of not
asking these Zealand cricketers but a case of someone establishing
some kind of clear boundaries so the international game isn't
destroyed by the franchise cash grab.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Yeah, I mean there are lots of things that play
here and I think it's a good point to raise
the whole calendar thing. I mean was eight days between
the IPL final and the start of a World Cup.
The ICC needs to put its foot down a bit
on that and say no, it's just too too short
to get between it. On the other hand, I mean
(06:04):
I do get thefficulties of you know, the players do
need to see their families for a bit, and just
how congested the overall calendar is and you need to
manage that and all that kind of stuff. But I'd
like someone to come out and say, actually, we probably
got that wrong. For example, Australia, their squad came in
sort of dribs and drabs and poles and whatever as well,
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and they had a warm up game featuring only nine
players that were in the noble squad, and you know,
they made up the pumblements of the fizzy other things
like that. So at least nine players got a game
in those conditions over there. And it doesn't matter what
actually happens in these warm up games. It's purely about
getting them out there in the field. I think maybe
I'd like to see someone come out, you know, after
(06:47):
all the dust has settled and all that kind of stuff,
and say, maybe we got that slightly wrong.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Well, and they can use that horrible term learnings for
next time around. I'm going to say that word does.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Well to be fair. Though Cain Williamson did say what
we have learned in his press conference after lost the
West Indies. I wanted to brecket over all that yeah, we're.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Moving on Graham. I'm amazed that you said the ICC
have to put their foot down because the BC so
I've chopped their foot off. They can't. They haven't got one. Alex,
Are you going to be watching the class between the
black Caps and not laughing and the mind of you
gander today?
Speaker 4 (07:22):
I am because I'm at work this afternoon, Dusty, so
I will be covering that. But you're right, like, what
more do cricket fans in this country need to watch
that game? To just see us smash up on Uganda
and THENPNG in a few days. It's going to be
a very hard sell, especially when you've got you know,
the Hurricanes, Chiefs and the Warriors also playing today.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, I think that that's really going to be pushed
to one side and myself, boys, to me, that's the
silver lining of a cloud that's pretty dark to deal
with just a couple of mornings. I don't have to
get up at two o'clock and watch three hells of
cricket for jobs, right, trying to find some good in
this fall? ZIP still Germany over Scotland eighty two minutes
(08:05):
in that game. As news talks B we carry on
with all start panel next, Alex Powell, Graham Besley and
myself join each other about sports. Let's get back to
the panel now, Graham Besy, Alex Powell joining us, and
(08:26):
we are going to talk state of origin. It's not
going to come to Auckland for a number of reasons. Graham,
has it got I'd go, I'm sure you would too,
But does it have any place here?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Really? Why do just sick the whole the whole time
difference and counts it out? Really? You know, I mean
we all the unless they can somehow get a day
game in a weekend which would sort of mark up
the normal NRL hold to sort of they did that.
Otherwise they will kick off after ten pm New Zealand time,
and you know track it in there one past the
(09:02):
the Eden Park right payers Association of it they're called.
You know, I just think I just think that in
itself will grow all with out. Then you've got other
factors like Melbourne seems to host one a year and
it's a bigger ground and they probably keen to grow
the game down there. So no, I think it's it
just sends to be one of these stories that raises
(09:23):
a tead every couple of years and then gets knocked
down pretty quickly.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, like building a stadium in Auckland.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
There's a big thing around this. There's a bigger thing
around this. We spoke about during the week. It's not cheap.
No one's going to pay for it. You go to Australia,
you go to Victoria, you go to Western Australia. They
thumb out the dollars by the millions to attract games
like this. No one's going to do that in Auckland,
are they.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
I mean, I'd like to think they would like if
that would be a very serious event for Auckland to host,
you know, but Graham's right, the logistics of it just
make it impossible having a ten pm kickoff at the earliest,
because let's be honest, this thing be decided by Australian broadcasters.
It's just not going to fly. You know, the Eden
Park Association, Helen Clark, they will put their foot down
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and say sorry, you're not having this then, and that'll.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Be the end of it.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Well, the sooner that people get squeezed the better, because
that's insane that we're talking about that. And this is
a part that's been there over one hundred years and
the biggest city. It's the only one we've got yet
a handful of angry rate players seem to have sway
over it. That's an absolute insult. I'm not talking about sport,
Graham busy. I'm talking about everything. They have concerts, they
(10:40):
can't have anything there. If you want peace and quiet,
don't live in Sandringham. Move to I don't know Potna,
the just move away from it. Like I think we've
established that we're going anywhere near the state of origin,
so be it. Let's talk, hero. I know you love
your football gram. I just saw this brilliant meme before,
(11:03):
and it was the start of the game, a picture
of Ryan mel Gibson, you know as Braveheart, raising his
hand to the air. I mean, forty five minutes later,
it's a picture of the three guys from Train Sporting
standing around looking rinsed. It sounds perfectly.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
It does. Actually, just as we've been speaking, the Scott's
have got one back. But for one, it's a big grim.
And all those cliches about football being a game between
two sides of eleven players always won by Germany. That's
that started early in this competition. But yeah, I'm really
looking forward to you know, it's basically three games a day,
(11:40):
it's all on free to air TV. You know, it's
it's it's unlikely that there will be a really dud team.
And at this stage anyway, I'm finding it really had
to pick to pick a winner, so you know, and
and it's always good entertainment of England stay in the
competition for a while.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
What before they eventually get pot before a game depend
on this, Yeah, fart around the room like a deflated balloon, guy, Alex.
Are they bringing it home or what? How long has
it been going for since nineteen.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Sixty six, that's all?
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Will they bring it home? I think if you look
at this England team on paper, it's probably one of
the most exciting ones they've had for a long time. However,
the one big witness is that defense, so teams will
be afraid to take them on in that regard, but
they also know they are very beatable. You saw that
last warm up game and they played against Iceland and
they lost one nil and it was just players getting
(12:31):
each other's lay. So there's a lot to sort out
still even though before their first game on Monday. But
the talent is there.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
The talent is there. And very very fast. Just before
we get out of here. It's been three thousand, two
hundred and sixty four days. I think it is since
the Warriors have beaten the Storm. Graham, is it going
to turn on its heels this evening?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
That is an amazing statistic, isn't it same.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
I think it's the longest winning the longest winningless run
for any team in the NRL by a.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Number of years, a number of I think it's been
fifteen years and excellence nine years. It is insane.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yeah, well, this is as good as chances any really.
You know, the Warriors have had are really good last month.
You know, Shawn Johnson's back. You would have mengined your
home crowd to sell out all that kind of stuff.
They've got a bit of the Storm some stage, and
I would have thought this was a good of chances.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Any what do you reckon? Three two hundred and sixty
one days later?
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Alex Power Leah Grames right law of averages says we'll
get them eventually. No, yeah, who knows that? That's right.
I've gone into games against the Storm that they should
have won. You know, you'd think back to earlier this
season they should have won and we're not for a
miracle try in the last second, So look, I think
it is coming. Whether it's today or not, who knows.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
But there was the Xavier Coachs try which was an
absolute piece of work and not too dissimilar to the
past from Nathan Friend when they last beat the Warriors.
Remember that one where he did that back flip and
pass the ball through his legs.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Yeah, yeah, that was the last time they want to
do that today.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Well, we'll see, We're looking forward to it. Hey, Alex Powell,
Graham BZ. Thanks so much for your time, are your attitude,
your opinions, It's been a pleasure. Catch you again sooner
rather than that. Have a great weekend boys. Yeah, true
news talks he'd be it's say fifty three.
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