The latest edition of 'The All-Star Panel' features Rugby Commentator Paul Allison and Rugby Writer Phil Gifford.
On this weekend's agenda: Scott 'Razor' Robertson has named his first squad of the year, should we be more sympathetic towards Shaun Johnson? And who's getting up at 2am for the Cricket World Cup Final?
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the All Sport Breakfast podcast with Darcy
Waldgrave from News Talks Edbro Paul Sports Breakfast All Star Panel.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
And were now joined on the All Star panel by
two fine gentlemen, Phil Gifford and Paul Allison. Greetings to you,
mister Gifford. I trust I find you in fine fettle.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Absolutely Darcy. It's lovely to be here and nice to
catch up with you in Paul and Paul.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Same goes to you. You are top of the morning.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Same to you on two.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I hope you will.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Look at that happy days here on News TALKSZB. Right,
let's start things off with all Black selection. I don't
know about you two, learn to minimal. Start off with
you Phil. I'm sick of this narrative around Hoskins. Stitutu
got snubbed. Look, the coach didn't pack him because he
didn't fit what he wanted in that role, regardless of
(01:01):
what he achieved. I think we know why. Why is
everyone making such a big stink about it? It's one guy, Phil,
There are plenty of guys who didn't get pick.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
What is this Well, Basically I think because one of
the things about Scott Robinson I suppose was that the
same man, and I was one of the hordes that
wrote about how he's very different. He's not like previous
all black coaches. I mean on the energy levels, for example,
I seriously have to go back to Fred Allen in
the nineteen sixties to find a guy that radiates so
(01:32):
much energy. But he's also in many many ways quite measured.
So Raiser Robinson's first all Black squad, which perhaps some
people were thinking was going to contain I've never heard
of him, I never heard of him. Where did he
come from? Was actually a pretty straightforward and basically in
most respects a very very measured squad. And so when
(01:55):
you're looking for something some sort of any sort of sensations,
par On Hoskins Cuta was the guy that was basically
in the firing line. Yeah he didn't make it, but
really that's not to say that at some point over
the next couple of years, as long as he sticks around,
he won't make it. He seems to have improved the
elements of his game that in the Foster era they
(02:15):
weren't happy with. That is a complete commitment and one
hundred percent working all the time work rate in other words,
but Yeah, if that's the biggest story from the all
Black squad, then there's not much sensational about it.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I don't was that the only story Paul Allison was
that am I making amountain out of a mole hole?
They are just get tired of that narrative.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
I was interested here Phil talk about Fred Allen and
bringing energy. I can't imagine Fred doing breakdancing those tones
to be honest that Yeah, he is going to be
a different coach. He brings a new style and I'm
like Phil, I think it's a pretty traditional side that
he's picked. There's not that many surprises. You look at
those loose forwards and you say Braden Yo S, Peter Lackeye,
Cullen Grace and Hosking Toe two too. We're all probably
(02:59):
in that wider mix of ten loose forwards going for
five or six spots. They went for six in the end.
Hosking toe two to against Wallace Attiti was probably the
balancing act that Satti has been outstanding. He brings that
breath of fresh air. He also brings a really good
body position in terms of the tackle, and I don't
like going on a yards carried and meat has made
(03:21):
and that sort of thing. But one of the telling
stats for me when you look at the body position,
only eighteen percent of of Situtu's tackles where were low,
where as fifty five percent of Stitis and fifty six
percent of Jacobson's were low. So you start thinking about
yellow cards. His work rates improved. But look, I think
(03:41):
there's a number of talking points, but most of them
really positive. And I think Scott Robertson and his crew
has done a really good job and I think a
really form side, a nice blend of youth and experience.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
The things here, Phil is that Scott Robertson's head on
the block of things go wrong. He has got a
peck of team, the same with his captain of players
that will put down on the park what he gives
to them and if he hasn't got faith in the
to do what he wants. And they don't just wake
up in the morning and pick our team. They run numbers,
they do a lot of research. They know what they're doing, right,
(04:14):
Am I being too defensive? Besides that, how Scott's first
week been and a great Devin new Man on board.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, totally. And look just very quickly one of the
things that as over the last ten years, has gradually
impressed itself on me more and more when when you
talk with all black selectors and all black coaches, the
fact is you are one hundred percent right. They've got information.
Now they press a button on a keyboard and they
(04:42):
can see every damn tackle that a player's made in
the hole of super rugby and nothing but if we
tackle the guys made and so while all of us
in New Zealand and long may that be the case,
all of us in New Zealand that are rugby tragics
all believe that really it should be our all black team.
It's going on to the parks, the one that we're picked.
But the fact is that the all black selectors have
(05:03):
so much more information than us armchair experts that at
times there are still moments I think where maybe they
don't quite get it right, and time sometimes proves that
the case. But by and large, an all black selection
these days is going to be based on facts. And
that's a simple as that. And just very quickly about
Fred Allen nay mind the breakdance, but I'll tell you
(05:24):
what he did something in the day that was even
more sensational. I was thinking about it when I was
writing a thing during the week. Fred Allen invited a
journalist into an all Black teen talk in Australia in
nineteen sixty eight, Alex Vesy and trust me, at the time,
that offended and that's one of the reasons Fred Allen
eventually resigned before we got sacked from the All Blacks.
(05:45):
Fred Allen was I think, possibly even more revolutionary than
the breakdancing razor.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Alex Fasy one of the finest scribes from back in
the day. Reading his books, his biographies, The Old Man
Had in the living Room is a tremendous peace of week. Hey, Paul,
let's just take it back to you. Have you got
that program where you can just see every tackle, because
I love that, to add a button and see what
everybody did. But film makes a great point around this.
(06:11):
This is not just fun for them. This is a
serious job and they seriously research what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Well, it's not like the sixties where they used to
have all Black trials and someone puts their head up
in one game and plays well and they get they
get a tour. It's not like that. The Phil Clark
back in sixty seven scored a couple of tries and
then in a trial match or maybe got three. I
think that you feel and got picked to go on tour. Now,
these guys the film's dead right. There's analysis being done
(06:38):
all over the place and they've got researchers and analysts
that are doing that. And so these guys have got
data and information on these players. They can work out
the style of game that they want to play. And
the guys that you know are in the right position,
got their tackle counts, mistakes eras ball handling, all of
that stuff they've got. So the data and information they've
(06:59):
got on players is outstanding now. And this is where
sometimes you see a new guy come in and makes
a real impression because the opposition haven't been able to
work them out. The more footage they've got, the more
they can work out the game plans for the opposition teams.
This is a good site, make no doubt about it.
I'm really pleased with it. I'm also pleased to have
gone and I never had a choice of riches for
captain that Scott Barrett. I think we're doing an outstanding
(07:19):
job as captain for this All Black side in twenty
twenty four.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Not going to disagree, and now I'm trying to be
the first man since Alex Vacy the thing I can
get an invite into the sheds, guys just before kickoff
the slow cut match? What are you reckon chance? Obviously
that laughter, I have no chance at all. I'll just
leave that one right there. I shouldn't have even picked
it up. I'm just gonna now put it in the bin.
(07:43):
It's nineteen minutes to nine. This is News Talk ZB
and they'll speak on the All Sport Breakfast. They do
not let me into the sheds. I can't even talk.
Why would they do that? Do you guys want to
come on TikTok with me? Go away? I'm Darcy Waudergrave,
Phil Gifford Paul Allison are my guests. The Ill Star
Panel continues shortly here on News Talk z B quite
(08:07):
sat there eight forty four and new Stalk ZB All
Sport Breakfast All Star Panel, Phil Gifford and Paul Allison. Paul,
let's start off with your area of expertise social media.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Sorry, yeah, you a comic of these Saturday morning shows.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
That's gonna have had no sleeping, too much coffee. So
Sean Johnson has urged social media trolls to think before
they type, which is admirable but insane because the whole
point of social media is you don't have to think
before you type because you hide behind a non no
name and you have a great say. I love him
for doing it, and he had some great words. But
(08:51):
what's the point?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Yeah? And you?
Speaker 4 (08:54):
And is there a more passionate fan base? And what
the Warriors have? So the other ones that will they'll
make more noise at a game than most other fans
and supporters following a team. I think am I right
in saying that they're on track this year to sell
out every game at home the Warriors and no other
(09:14):
team in the NRUR history has ever done that before.
So that shows you the passion of the fan base
that the Warriors have been able to cobble together, and
the fact that you know they'll make their they'll make
their feelings knowing they wear their heart on the sleeve,
and you know, it's just part of part of life
these days. Social media is here to stay, and you know,
fans and players have to just adapt.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
It is what it is.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
It is, but it can bite. I don't have social
media in the studio I'm not allowed to because it
gets so irritated. But even on the text line, even
though one shouldn't bite, one does because we're humans, we
take things personally, so you understand, Phil, Why shawna go,
Come on, guys, you need to cuddle. This is getting
a bit silly. But it is social media.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Yeah, I mean social media is just a brutal, fessful
where regartless jerk in New Zealand that has an opinion
that they don't have before alls to actually put their
name to.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
It's really funny though, and they see I put my
name to my social media, so you know, I may
be regardless jerk, but at least my name's behind it, right,
Phil Cary, I wasn't talking about you.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I was talking about the trials. Come on, you know
I love your d Yeah. Look, it's the fact, the
fact of social media. It is. And one of the
things is, of course that the very people that are
in sport anyway that are mostly big on social media.
Of course the players coaches as well, and they're a
(10:43):
bit older and hopefully they've got the maturity to deal
with it. I think it's harder for a young guy
to deal with it, and I was had an interesting
conversation a couple of weeks ago was one of the
a guy that had been in the orbit management group
for some years. He was saying he felt that, for example,
if there was an article in let's say the Herald website,
some of the players would skip through the article, but
(11:05):
they would pay more attention to the comments from people
that had commented online, you know. And that's the thing
about it is that if you take that stuff seriously,
and the younger you are, it feels to me, having
in grandkids that read social media and comments on social media,
it seems to me that the younger you are, the
(11:26):
more likely you are to take it seriously. And that's
that's the danger when you've got a team like the
Warriors who are struggling at the moment, obviously after that
terrible loss against the Titans, that's the danger if you're
a young person, that you actually take this stuff seriously
at all, because you shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Well, I keep telling my daughter, so don't worry about
other people think because on all honesty, as you go,
we'll understand no one cares about you. They're so tight
up in their own dramas they're not even looking at
you said, I worry about it, but of course you
know she's a kid, so she doesn't miss to be
on on that one. There, right, let's move on. Let's
cover this one last thing. Oh hold on, and he's
(12:04):
made a really good point, Producer Andy Duff. What's even
more infuriating than the ggartless mongols who hide behind a
non to plume is the people that actually get really
nasty on social media, but they've got their full name
in their company on it. That's even funnier. You can
find in who they are and where they come from.
It's like, dude, that's not smart. But anyway, let's move
on to the T twenty final. You by boys are
(12:27):
both getting up for this, aren't you, Paul. You're getting
up to watch India get thrashed by South Africa.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Well, I have watched the Semis. Don't know if I'll
be watching the final. I've been impressed by the Indian
fielding performance against England and the South African bowling attack
against Afghanistan. No, I won't be getting up, Darcy, but
it probably you know, it watered down in a public's
(12:53):
imagination when the black Caps got knocked out so early.
India look good, but so to South Africa. I mean,
this is a type of game now which one person
basically can change the whole moment m and it's hard
to predict India. It goes in on form. Both teams
unbeaten India one at back in two thousand and seven,
(13:13):
haven't won it since South Africa's never been in a final. Yeah,
it'll be interesting. I don't know which way it will go.
I'm packing India because I think they've got a couple
of decent bowlers and Boomra and seeing Rowat Sharma scored
more runs than anyone else for the Indian team this year.
But as I said, it's it's a pretty freckle game
(13:35):
in the sense that you can get one or two
players doing something pretty special and turns the whole game
on its head. But two thirty in the morning, no,
I'll still be sleeping.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
No, that's a fair call. Phil Gifford, BCI show I've
done whatever they can to make sure India win this tournament.
Time zones venues the whole lot, So merely on the
basis of that and that organization, go South Africa.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Yeah, fair play. I mean, one of the things about
this tea to any one, and I think the most
significant and it's sort of expressed my feelings about it
the best comment. Sorry, that's the best comment I've read
about it. In Today's Sidney Morning here at my mate
Peter Simons says, hey, guess what Australia got beaten at
the T twenty World Cup tournament by Afghennis down and
(14:17):
here's the deal, wrote at Simon's nobody cared. I think
that I've felt exactly the same about it. I mean,
normally with my interest which was fairly minimal anyway, once
i'd seen some of the games on TV, once New
Zealand dropped out almost immediately beaten by Gennisan again and
(14:38):
gives what nobody cared is that I did tiny Well, yeah,
I know that Denis, Yeah, but I'm talking about Kiwi
sports fans in general. I would love to see what
the figures were which would be about Zeltch, I would think,
because one of the just quickly, one of the other
things about it is they seem to have basically have
(14:59):
audiences of about three men and one dog for most
of these games, so there doesn't seem to be a
hell of a lot of atmosphere. They doesn't tend to
be and there's certainly apart from that you're an Indian
Pan or South African fan India fan or South African Pan.
I guess it certainly doesn't seem to be a hell
of a lot of interest in it. And to be honest,
I'll probably wait until the six o'clock news at night
(15:19):
to watch anything about the finals.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
I'll go I'm a VHS and I'll watch it in
the morning. I'm just talking to you guys and a
language you understand, old Beta and now you're going crazy.
Paul Allison and Phil Gifford, I love you mean thanks
so much for your time. You boys both have wonderful weekends. Uh,
it's eight minutes to nine. Jason Pine's up next to
(15:47):
find out what is on his prey. I know what's
coming up this weekend in his show. I know, and
I'm not going to tell you. Jason Will Piney joining
us next here and Hew Still's mb.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
In for more from the All Sport Breakfast with Darcy Watergrave.
Listen live to News Talk set B on Saturday mornings,
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You're listening to the All Sport Breakfast podcast with Darcy
Waldgrave from News Talks Edbro Paul Sports Breakfast All Star Panel.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
And were now joined on the All Star panel by
two fine gentlemen, Phil Gifford and Paul Allison. Greetings to you,
mister Gifford. I trust I find you in fine fettle.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Absolutely Darcy. It's lovely to be here and nice to
catch up with you in Paul and Paul.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Same goes to you. You are top of the morning.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Same to you on two.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I hope you will.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Look at that happy days here on News TALKSZB. Right,
let's start things off with all Black selection. I don't
know about you two, learn to minimal. Start off with
you Phil. I'm sick of this narrative around Hoskins. Stitutu
got snubbed. Look, the coach didn't pack him because he
didn't fit what he wanted in that role, regardless of
(01:01):
what he achieved. I think we know why. Why is
everyone making such a big stink about it? It's one guy, Phil,
There are plenty of guys who didn't get pick.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
What is this Well, Basically I think because one of
the things about Scott Robinson I suppose was that the
same man, and I was one of the hordes that
wrote about how he's very different. He's not like previous
all black coaches. I mean on the energy levels, for example,
I seriously have to go back to Fred Allen in
the nineteen sixties to find a guy that radiates so
(01:32):
much energy. But he's also in many many ways quite measured.
So Raiser Robinson's first all Black squad, which perhaps some
people were thinking was going to contain I've never heard
of him, I never heard of him. Where did he
come from? Was actually a pretty straightforward and basically in
most respects a very very measured squad. And so when
(01:55):
you're looking for something some sort of any sort of sensations,
par On Hoskins Cuta was the guy that was basically
in the firing line. Yeah he didn't make it, but
really that's not to say that at some point over
the next couple of years, as long as he sticks around,
he won't make it. He seems to have improved the
elements of his game that in the Foster era they
(02:15):
weren't happy with. That is a complete commitment and one
hundred percent working all the time work rate in other words,
but Yeah, if that's the biggest story from the all
Black squad, then there's not much sensational about it.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I don't was that the only story Paul Allison was
that am I making amountain out of a mole hole?
They are just get tired of that narrative.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
I was interested here Phil talk about Fred Allen and
bringing energy. I can't imagine Fred doing breakdancing those tones
to be honest that Yeah, he is going to be
a different coach. He brings a new style and I'm
like Phil, I think it's a pretty traditional side that
he's picked. There's not that many surprises. You look at
those loose forwards and you say Braden Yo S, Peter Lackeye,
Cullen Grace and Hosking Toe two too. We're all probably
(02:59):
in that wider mix of ten loose forwards going for
five or six spots. They went for six in the end.
Hosking toe two to against Wallace Attiti was probably the
balancing act that Satti has been outstanding. He brings that
breath of fresh air. He also brings a really good
body position in terms of the tackle, and I don't
like going on a yards carried and meat has made
(03:21):
and that sort of thing. But one of the telling
stats for me when you look at the body position,
only eighteen percent of of Situtu's tackles where were low,
where as fifty five percent of Stitis and fifty six
percent of Jacobson's were low. So you start thinking about
yellow cards. His work rates improved. But look, I think
(03:41):
there's a number of talking points, but most of them
really positive. And I think Scott Robertson and his crew
has done a really good job and I think a
really form side, a nice blend of youth and experience.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
The things here, Phil is that Scott Robertson's head on
the block of things go wrong. He has got a
peck of team, the same with his captain of players
that will put down on the park what he gives
to them and if he hasn't got faith in the
to do what he wants. And they don't just wake
up in the morning and pick our team. They run numbers,
they do a lot of research. They know what they're doing, right,
(04:14):
Am I being too defensive? Besides that, how Scott's first
week been and a great Devin new Man on board.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, totally. And look just very quickly one of the
things that as over the last ten years, has gradually
impressed itself on me more and more when when you
talk with all black selectors and all black coaches, the
fact is you are one hundred percent right. They've got information.
Now they press a button on a keyboard and they
(04:42):
can see every damn tackle that a player's made in
the hole of super rugby and nothing but if we
tackle the guys made and so while all of us
in New Zealand and long may that be the case,
all of us in New Zealand that are rugby tragics
all believe that really it should be our all black team.
It's going on to the parks, the one that we're picked.
But the fact is that the all black selectors have
(05:03):
so much more information than us armchair experts that at
times there are still moments I think where maybe they
don't quite get it right, and time sometimes proves that
the case. But by and large, an all black selection
these days is going to be based on facts. And
that's a simple as that. And just very quickly about
Fred Allen nay mind the breakdance, but I'll tell you
(05:24):
what he did something in the day that was even
more sensational. I was thinking about it when I was
writing a thing during the week. Fred Allen invited a
journalist into an all Black teen talk in Australia in
nineteen sixty eight, Alex Vesy and trust me, at the time,
that offended and that's one of the reasons Fred Allen
eventually resigned before we got sacked from the All Blacks.
(05:45):
Fred Allen was I think, possibly even more revolutionary than
the breakdancing razor.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Alex Fasy one of the finest scribes from back in
the day. Reading his books, his biographies, The Old Man
Had in the living Room is a tremendous peace of week. Hey, Paul,
let's just take it back to you. Have you got
that program where you can just see every tackle, because
I love that, to add a button and see what
everybody did. But film makes a great point around this.
(06:11):
This is not just fun for them. This is a
serious job and they seriously research what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Well, it's not like the sixties where they used to
have all Black trials and someone puts their head up
in one game and plays well and they get they
get a tour. It's not like that. The Phil Clark
back in sixty seven scored a couple of tries and
then in a trial match or maybe got three. I
think that you feel and got picked to go on tour. Now,
these guys the film's dead right. There's analysis being done
(06:38):
all over the place and they've got researchers and analysts
that are doing that. And so these guys have got
data and information on these players. They can work out
the style of game that they want to play. And
the guys that you know are in the right position,
got their tackle counts, mistakes eras ball handling, all of
that stuff they've got. So the data and information they've
(06:59):
got on players is outstanding now. And this is where
sometimes you see a new guy come in and makes
a real impression because the opposition haven't been able to
work them out. The more footage they've got, the more
they can work out the game plans for the opposition teams.
This is a good site, make no doubt about it.
I'm really pleased with it. I'm also pleased to have
gone and I never had a choice of riches for
captain that Scott Barrett. I think we're doing an outstanding
(07:19):
job as captain for this All Black side in twenty
twenty four.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Not going to disagree, and now I'm trying to be
the first man since Alex Vacy the thing I can
get an invite into the sheds, guys just before kickoff
the slow cut match? What are you reckon chance? Obviously
that laughter, I have no chance at all. I'll just
leave that one right there. I shouldn't have even picked
it up. I'm just gonna now put it in the bin.
(07:43):
It's nineteen minutes to nine. This is News Talk ZB
and they'll speak on the All Sport Breakfast. They do
not let me into the sheds. I can't even talk.
Why would they do that? Do you guys want to
come on TikTok with me? Go away? I'm Darcy Waudergrave,
Phil Gifford Paul Allison are my guests. The Ill Star
Panel continues shortly here on News Talk z B quite
(08:07):
sat there eight forty four and new Stalk ZB All
Sport Breakfast All Star Panel, Phil Gifford and Paul Allison. Paul,
let's start off with your area of expertise social media.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Sorry, yeah, you a comic of these Saturday morning shows.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
That's gonna have had no sleeping, too much coffee. So
Sean Johnson has urged social media trolls to think before
they type, which is admirable but insane because the whole
point of social media is you don't have to think
before you type because you hide behind a non no
name and you have a great say. I love him
for doing it, and he had some great words. But
(08:51):
what's the point?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Yeah? And you?
Speaker 4 (08:54):
And is there a more passionate fan base? And what
the Warriors have? So the other ones that will they'll
make more noise at a game than most other fans
and supporters following a team. I think am I right
in saying that they're on track this year to sell
out every game at home the Warriors and no other
(09:14):
team in the NRUR history has ever done that before.
So that shows you the passion of the fan base
that the Warriors have been able to cobble together, and
the fact that you know they'll make their they'll make
their feelings knowing they wear their heart on the sleeve,
and you know, it's just part of part of life
these days. Social media is here to stay, and you know,
fans and players have to just adapt.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
It is what it is.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
It is, but it can bite. I don't have social
media in the studio I'm not allowed to because it
gets so irritated. But even on the text line, even
though one shouldn't bite, one does because we're humans, we
take things personally, so you understand, Phil, Why shawna go,
Come on, guys, you need to cuddle. This is getting
a bit silly. But it is social media.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Yeah, I mean social media is just a brutal, fessful
where regartless jerk in New Zealand that has an opinion
that they don't have before alls to actually put their
name to.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
It's really funny though, and they see I put my
name to my social media, so you know, I may
be regardless jerk, but at least my name's behind it, right,
Phil Cary, I wasn't talking about you.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I was talking about the trials. Come on, you know
I love your d Yeah. Look, it's the fact, the
fact of social media. It is. And one of the
things is, of course that the very people that are
in sport anyway that are mostly big on social media.
Of course the players coaches as well, and they're a
(10:43):
bit older and hopefully they've got the maturity to deal
with it. I think it's harder for a young guy
to deal with it, and I was had an interesting
conversation a couple of weeks ago was one of the
a guy that had been in the orbit management group
for some years. He was saying he felt that, for example,
if there was an article in let's say the Herald website,
some of the players would skip through the article, but
(11:05):
they would pay more attention to the comments from people
that had commented online, you know. And that's the thing
about it is that if you take that stuff seriously,
and the younger you are, it feels to me, having
in grandkids that read social media and comments on social media,
it seems to me that the younger you are, the
(11:26):
more likely you are to take it seriously. And that's
that's the danger when you've got a team like the
Warriors who are struggling at the moment, obviously after that
terrible loss against the Titans, that's the danger if you're
a young person, that you actually take this stuff seriously
at all, because you shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Well, I keep telling my daughter, so don't worry about
other people think because on all honesty, as you go,
we'll understand no one cares about you. They're so tight
up in their own dramas they're not even looking at
you said, I worry about it, but of course you
know she's a kid, so she doesn't miss to be
on on that one. There, right, let's move on. Let's
cover this one last thing. Oh hold on, and he's
(12:04):
made a really good point, Producer Andy Duff. What's even
more infuriating than the ggartless mongols who hide behind a
non to plume is the people that actually get really
nasty on social media, but they've got their full name
in their company on it. That's even funnier. You can
find in who they are and where they come from.
It's like, dude, that's not smart. But anyway, let's move
on to the T twenty final. You by boys are
(12:27):
both getting up for this, aren't you, Paul. You're getting
up to watch India get thrashed by South Africa.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Well, I have watched the Semis. Don't know if I'll
be watching the final. I've been impressed by the Indian
fielding performance against England and the South African bowling attack
against Afghanistan. No, I won't be getting up, Darcy, but
it probably you know, it watered down in a public's
(12:53):
imagination when the black Caps got knocked out so early.
India look good, but so to South Africa. I mean,
this is a type of game now which one person
basically can change the whole moment m and it's hard
to predict India. It goes in on form. Both teams
unbeaten India one at back in two thousand and seven,
(13:13):
haven't won it since South Africa's never been in a final. Yeah,
it'll be interesting. I don't know which way it will go.
I'm packing India because I think they've got a couple
of decent bowlers and Boomra and seeing Rowat Sharma scored
more runs than anyone else for the Indian team this year.
But as I said, it's it's a pretty freckle game
(13:35):
in the sense that you can get one or two
players doing something pretty special and turns the whole game
on its head. But two thirty in the morning, no,
I'll still be sleeping.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
No, that's a fair call. Phil Gifford, BCI show I've
done whatever they can to make sure India win this tournament.
Time zones venues the whole lot, So merely on the
basis of that and that organization, go South Africa.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Yeah, fair play. I mean, one of the things about
this tea to any one, and I think the most
significant and it's sort of expressed my feelings about it
the best comment. Sorry, that's the best comment I've read
about it. In Today's Sidney Morning here at my mate
Peter Simons says, hey, guess what Australia got beaten at
the T twenty World Cup tournament by Afghennis down and
(14:17):
here's the deal, wrote at Simon's nobody cared. I think
that I've felt exactly the same about it. I mean,
normally with my interest which was fairly minimal anyway, once
i'd seen some of the games on TV, once New
Zealand dropped out almost immediately beaten by Gennisan again and
(14:38):
gives what nobody cared is that I did tiny Well, yeah,
I know that Denis, Yeah, but I'm talking about Kiwi
sports fans in general. I would love to see what
the figures were which would be about Zeltch, I would think,
because one of the just quickly, one of the other
things about it is they seem to have basically have
(14:59):
audiences of about three men and one dog for most
of these games, so there doesn't seem to be a
hell of a lot of atmosphere. They doesn't tend to
be and there's certainly apart from that you're an Indian
Pan or South African fan India fan or South African Pan.
I guess it certainly doesn't seem to be a hell
of a lot of interest in it. And to be honest,
I'll probably wait until the six o'clock news at night
(15:19):
to watch anything about the finals.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
I'll go I'm a VHS and I'll watch it in
the morning. I'm just talking to you guys and a
language you understand, old Beta and now you're going crazy.
Paul Allison and Phil Gifford, I love you mean thanks
so much for your time. You boys both have wonderful weekends. Uh,
it's eight minutes to nine. Jason Pine's up next to
(15:47):
find out what is on his prey. I know what's
coming up this weekend in his show. I know, and
I'm not going to tell you. Jason Will Piney joining
us next here and Hew Still's mb.
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