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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the All Sport Breakfast podcast with Darcy
Waldgrave from Used talks'b All Sports Breakfast, All Star Panel.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
And our All Star Panel today is well, it's one
of the bookings without a doubt. Phil Gifford, Hallo, Nate,
how are you?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yeah, good mate? Good as gold? Thanks very well.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I like to hear. And what about Alex Powell good
as gold stealing a silver or as bugget as bronze?
How do you sit Alex?
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Look, I'll have we take so to go with gifts gold.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Look at that. I'll stick in the bronze. I'll be
the bottom step. Let's kick things off Phil, with this
San Diego test, I think that Scott Robertson was too
conservative in the first two tests. He kind of may
have gone the other direction this time around. But taking
that into account with the six debutans, we taking this
test maybe a little too lightly.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Well, I wouldn't have thought so, because you've got a
lot of guys that basically have got a chance to
put the hand up and say hey, when we go
back into planting the likes of the Pumas and Australian
said that keep me in mind, and I mean I
think of Ethan Blackadder comes to mind straight away, not
that he wouldn't have played his heart out even without
a chance to make the top team. I think that
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he needed to give the whole of a squad a
run at some point, and with all due respect to FIG,
it would be if they won, it would be an
astonishing effort, and good on them if they did. But
I think the TV's got about right with the I
think we all actually about a dollar six to seven
dollars for FIG. I think the game will be closer
than those odds would indicate. But I'm really looking forward
to it because fingers cross conditioned. I I was looking
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it up at that time of night, because it's a
night game in San Diego, obviously half us two in
the afternoon here twenty two degrees and fingers crossed fairly dry,
and with the way that Fig played their rugby, I'm
actually really looking forward to it. I won't sure that
I would, but and the other good news is I
understand that they are just to tick away from having
a sell out thirty five thousand fans crowd.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Well that'd be good, Alex. I suppose when you look
at this, what are the things that you're looking toward.
I want to see Eaton Blackadder get to the end
of the game without falling apart.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
I mean, I mean that would be really nice for
Eaton in particular. I think there's just a lot of
players who do have a bit to prove Today. You
look at someone like Billy Propter. Can he go on
and take that first choice iner spot. I mean, this
game might not go all the way to showing he
should be doing that number thirteen Jersey, but it does
just lay a platform four guys like that who are
sort of on the fringes of being regulars to put
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their hands up and present their case to Raver and
the rest of them.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
The other debutantes. What do you look toward? Is it
too lightly taken?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
No?
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I mean, look, I think that those guys all deserve
to be there. That I don't think he'd make the
argument against any of them. But you know, they are
going to need players over the next four years. They
are going to have to be young guys that come in.
You look at something like a quarters that after man
and know, I hope and we know that halfback was
an area of contention and selection. So to have these
young guys coming and now and get their first taste
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in a game that I mean, let's be honest, they
should win this and win it comfortably. It's a pretty
good start for them.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Not a bad start. Three from three. Let's move on
to the Warriors now, Phil Giffer, Are they go again?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Oh? Man? Okay, so I've got a confession to make.
I might as well making them public dars, we're no.
Fourteen mel down after twenty minutes I had. I recorded
it on the skyboxer part of me that said, oh
my god, it's back to the bad old days again,
and there was a part of me, We've turned out
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to be right. This morning I discovered that an actual
fact this is a team was real backbone, and they
do try really really hard. But whisper this, darcy, But
I have a feelings it's reaching the point with them now.
You know, there's only seven rounds to gether in twelfth place.
You know, will they make the top eight? They'll need
some results going for them with other teams. But there
is a tiny little bit about the Warriors at the moment,
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and that they have courage, they try really hard, they
just don't goddamn win. And there's a tiny part of
them that reminds me a little bit of the Crusaders
twenty twenty four, and that when you look back on
the Crusader season, which was a nightmare, but one of
the reasons nightmare, they weren't losing by forty points. They
were losing by very narrow margins. And I have an
awful feeling that's sort of where these worries are stuck.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
It's on an awful feeling in Stage avou all over again, right, Alex.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
It does just that way. It feels absolutely nailed at
how many games they're losing by sort of less than
a converted try. You do feel they have bonus points?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeh in NRL, what are the bonus points?
Speaker 4 (04:41):
We need bonae at least it's not golden point.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
No.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
You do feel for Chanelle Harris Divita as well. Those
three miscakes. I mean they would have gone to that
game with Adam Bombers their first choice kicker and tained
to a Picky as their second, and they both went
off injured in the first half. That you could see
on Chanelle's face when he came off the field that
he felt that was on him. And Andrew Webster did
make a very very astute point in the press conference
last night that it wasn't goal kicking the it was
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that slow start and they were fourteen yeel down.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
At no time did anyone lean on them. Sorry Alex
around Roger Tui vasas Sheik finally playing in his favorite
position because he was quite good at fullback, wasn't he.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
I've had my colors now to the Masters season, saying
of Fander, Webster says he's a center. He's a center.
Me too, but wow, but no last night Turnder for me.
I think he needs to play at fullback.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Phil Yeah, he's a fullback. I mean, I'm sorry, but
when you move people, and there are some people that
can be moved from one place to another, but rts
going to the centers. There's a TEMs wingsy bit. I'm
going back in the time. Don't here, but playing Christian
color a center of the ninety ninety nine rugby will
Cup not quite as disastrous as that, but not far
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off it.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Well, Cabin's right the way through the codes. They destroyed
him in rugby by putting him in the seniors. Now
he's back in rugby league and he's a center. And
I suppose when we're talking about Alex Powell Rique Juani.
Is he a center or a winger.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
I think he's a winger. I think he's the instincts
of a winner. I think he is the attributes of
a winger. But obviously wingers do have a very short
shelf life, so Refarrico's own sake, he'll want to play
in the centers.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
And Phil Green and Paul were a really good piece
about this in The Herald yesterday, suggesting that Billy Proctor stops,
looks ascertains and does it all on a heartbeat before
he makes a decision. Or is there seeing Rico far
too often just put the ball under his wing and run.
And that's kind of winger, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yeah? There is. I mean, look, there there have been
wings and Tanau among the springs immediately to mind who
were transferred brilliantly from the wing to center. Rico, who
is an amazing footballer and on the wing, was one
of the best in this position in the world, patently,
But yeah, I'm not absolutely convinced that that center is
is the real position for him. And what the hell
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you do now if you, Scott Robertson, when you've got
such an absolute Paul of I think terrific talent as
far as wings go. What you do as Rico will
be very very interesting. And yeah, Billy propped it. And
again it's it's with all due respect, the All Blacks
should be getting some decent ball against CG. You would
hire better ball than they'd get against Faya, South Africa
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or An Ireland. But if if Billy Proctor gets a
lot of good ball, this is his chance to show
his distribution skills which haven't actually been a strong feature.
That's a polite way of putting it. This year with
the all black midfield, No.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Not at all. That was a polite way of putting it.
Phil Gift, Alex Powell. They're part of the All Star
panel back. They are the All Star panel up next
talking about artist Savia and has moved possibly potentially probably
so Mona Pacifica, Phil and Alex a joining us again
soon here on New still ZBA forty three down, coming
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fourteen away from nine All Star Panel. Phil Gifford and
Alex Powell. Alex to you Artisavia. I've seen this a
couple of times and I'll keep saying it. When I
saw the move to Auckland, I mean the Blues don't
need him. Hold my breath. What happened? He's off to Mowana.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Yeah, well if the deal doesn't appear to be underlined yet,
but by all accounts, if he trusted a napier, which
I do, Yeah, he's in line to go to my
one pacificate to represent his specifica heritage. He's a very
proud second generation Sarmon and I honestly just hope it happens.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I think it's brilliant. I think it's very much Ardie Savia.
He definitely marches to the beat of his own drum,
and this summarizes for me, it's like bigger than the
sum of the parts. He wants to do something for
his community and his heritage, and the effect has on
his game is very interesting to me. How do you
think should it go ahead, this will effect what he
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does on the part because I see as being positive
more than anything.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Absolutely. Oh sorry, sorry, somebody, come on fel sorry hold
bash you head the thing rub I'm sorry, Yeah, just
very clearly that's what I was going to say. Look,
we know we know that Artie Favier on the park
as a hard as big as a house, and I
think he's always struck me as just a top guy,
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and I think this is a magnificent thing for him
to do, because to be one, the easiest way out
would have been stuck with the Canes where he's so
familiar and we're playing some damn good footage this year
and no doubt will be next year. But he's going
to Milana, which will be a hell of a boost
to them, and I think it is. To me, it
is seems almost typical of a guy with a decency
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and a generosity of spirit, which he's demonstrating by this move.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I'm with you on that one, Alex.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
What do you think.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Do you think it'll lift him as far as a
player is concerned, or maybe drag him down?
Speaker 4 (09:58):
No, I think the other around. Artie is the kind
of guy that lifts the players around him. They all
love playing with him, and you know he is the
best player in the world. You put them into any
team that makes them better. But looking wider at mine
of Pasiska, who are meant to be in a bit
of trouble off the field, that would save that club.
You know people would come and watch artisar there. They
would be playing in front of packed stands.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Every week and all they need now is to find
a home.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Well, not so where those pack stands would be, but
they would be packed.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Well.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
We had some talk on newstalk last night and Pooky
quite seems to be a favorite because you know, close
enough to South Auckland. Just don't put a game in
on a Friday night because no one will ever get there. Right, finally, finally, finally,
Phil Gifford excited much. The Olympic Games are on their
way here it comes a Olympiad action.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Yeah, looking forward to it very much actually, because it's
going to start with a sport that I love watching,
and that's sevens rugby and especially the women's team. Oh
I just get so much enjoyment. There are so many
brilliant players in that and they play such great forta
and that starts on Wednesday, you know, even before the openings.
For me, that's how that's how big a things see
rugby is darcy. It overshadows the opening sermon. And the
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other good thing, of course is that playing sevens rugby
they don't have to swim in the farm. But that's good.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, and odds on it's going to be our Australia
and he's out and final. But we cannot put the
cart before the horse because there's a long way to go,
a long way to go. And you think, Alex, that
Porscha Woodman, this is her swan song. She's not mighty already.
I think she'll grow extra legs for this tournament.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Look, I think she's one of the greats to ever
play in New Zealand rugby. You'd hope that Porscha can
sign off for the gold, but no, you're You're absolutely right.
It would be the song some she deserves.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
And the rest of the Olympics, Alex, anything particularly that
tickles your fancy.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
I mean, I have a love hate relationship with the Olympics.
I enjoy the fact that it's the pinnacle of just
about every sport we know. It means I'm going to
get absolutely flogging at work and I can't wait to
see Lisa Carrington versus Amy Fisher in the knustraant. I
think that got one two written all over it. And
you know, from what I understand that there is no
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love lost between them and they have just been dominating
for the last couple of years.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
So I still to and look, we've got it all
on News Talk ZB we've got a phalanx of people
bringing us commentary, opinion and the like. And one last thing, Phil,
just before we go on, Alex, don't you leave? Oh
aren't you as well? The sales NBL expanding to India.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah, just fantastic. I mean, I'm meant that stagger because
if you'd ask me what's other sport outside of a
part of cricket that that Indians were crazy on, and
I would have said patently hockey, of course, which has
been prevent But I'm astounded and I feel very ignorant
to that they didn't know that basketball was so popular
in India. What a fantastic opportunity, man, take get old
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into India and somehow New Zealand's involved with the basketball
over there. Man, that is one of the huge breakthroughs
in the zoom.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
On sport for my money, And Justin Nelson a wonderful
thinker of sport, and he tries a lot of things.
Some things don't work, but a lot of it does. Alex,
and this is just another feather in his cat thinking
bigger things.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Fair play. To remember he bought in the draft a
couple of years ago, which made it more interesting up
to David. But I mean, just like, from a commercial standpoint,
India's got one point four billion people. If you know,
even one percent of that audience tunes in for a game,
they'll make it one of the most watched sporting in
his own sporting events of all time.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Well, he had the Rapid League up a sleeve too,
and that's worked a treat as well. So yeah, looking forward,
I love it, no limits. It's justin Nelson's the GM
of Sales MBL and on that, young men, we thank
you very much for your time, enjoy your weekends and
we'll see you, I don't know next week, week afterward,
I reckon. Yeah, Phil won't see me because he doesn't
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live anywhere there, and Alex of course has stuck with
me in the studio. Poor bugger. It's eight minutes to nine.
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