The latest edition of 'The All-Star Panel' features Rugby News Editor Campbell Burnes and Gold Sport Commentator Hamish McKay.
On this weekend's agenda:
The All Blacks are making a few changes ahead of second test match, South Africa apologies for disrupting the haka, and Israel Adesanya's run-in with a member of the public.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the All Sport Breakfast podcast with Darcy
Waldegrave from News Talks b The All Sport Breakfast Sports Swipe.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
The Orlacks have finished preparations for tomorrow morning's Rugby Championship
rematch against the spring Box in Cape Town. First five
Damien McKenzie says accuracy would be the key to a
New Zealand win after letting a ten point lead slip
away in the first test in Johannesburg. In the NPC
Bay of Plenty have thrashed one War two sixty eight
fourteen in the loft Door to move to second on
(00:38):
the latter. World number one Janick Sinner has won the
first sets against Britain's Jack Draper in the Doueus Tennis
Open semi final in New York. It's the first time
Drapers dropped the sets in the tournament. Swimmer Cameron Leslie
has finished fourth in the men's S four to fifty
meter free style final at the Paralympics in Paris. Meanwhile,
para athlete Anna Grimaldi has finished fourth in the women's
(00:58):
T forty seven long jump final, while Holly Robinson has
proclaimed sixth in the women's f forty six javelin final form.
Waller b Mark the wong to us there has scored
in his NROL debut during the Rooster's thirty six to
twenty eight win over the Rabbito's in Sydney to take
second on the latter. Meanwhile, the Eels have handed the
Tigers the wooden spoon after a sixty points to twenty
sixth bouting in Campbelltown, and three time champion Primo's Roglicic
(01:21):
has taken the general classification lead with two stages remaining
inside Pens Bltzer Espaniard. That's your sport.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Good on to Elijah, thanks very much. Catch again after
the nine o'clock our the Sports News. It's twenty one
away from nine here on the All Sport Breakfast.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
All Sport Breakfast, All Star Panel.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Excited for this one all star panel today featuring two
of our gold sports commentators, Haimash McKay and Rugby News
editor Campbell Burns.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Good morning gents.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Good morning Adam.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah, great to have you both on board. Plenty of
rugby to discuss, which I know will be right up
both of your allies. A right, let's get into this
All Blacks spring box. Three am. Tomorrow All Blacks obviously
wanting to redeem themselves before heading back down this part
of the world. Heymish number of changes from both sides.
What have you sort of looked at a more sort
of stronger move South Africa rolling in the experience, or
(02:13):
the All Blacks starting with a few of the young guns.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Yeah, I'm interested in in the changes in the South
African team. The likes of Willie LaRue, who propped to me,
offers an opportunity because there's been plenty of times when
Willy's been a little bit shaky at the back for
the box historically. But you know, then you just start
reading through the rest of the team and you go,
you know, look at what they've defaulted to. I mean,
Williams is a sensational halfback, Henre Pola. We know how
(02:39):
good he is, different type of verse five eight, So
I think they'll be a much of a muchness overall.
I'm liking Jordan at fullback. I think that it's time
that it has happened. We'll definitely miss Caleb Clark. You know,
I'm sorry this daylight between him and severa Reese. I'm
just going to come out and say it in my opinion.
But you know, look, look look outside of that. While
(02:59):
a Satisi what a baptism of fire. You don't go
any deeper than the spring Box in Cape Town. So
you know, our guys have been saying they need to
be more accurate. I don't know if it's more accurate.
You just got to hurt them more in contact because
they hurt us more force to turnovers. They spill the
pill and South Africa and take advantage of it. So
I'm liking I'd like to see Jacobson get involved in
(03:21):
the game. He's got those concrete shoulders, the sort of
player that first five eights like Campbell Burns hated because
they absolutely So there you go. I'm excited. I think
both things have made changes, but you know it'll be
close again.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yeah, Campbell. Realistically, with the likes of Voting Barretts and TJ.
Pittinada on the bench, if things are really in trouble
early on, how soon could we be seeing them feature
on the field tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (03:47):
Well that's the Yeah, that's the six million dollar question.
Because last week the all BECs went fairly late to
their bench. The entire spring Box Bomb squad was already
on and so they had more time to get into
their work, so that's going to be a strategical issue
for for Razor. It's hard to say, really when you
know when's the good time, because often they bring the
earlier around about the fifty minutes. But someone like Boden Barred,
(04:09):
if it's not going well, you'd probably need him in
sooner rather than later to bring that impact that he
did in the in the English tests back in July.
So how they how and when they introduce their subs
could well be pivotal to this test, as it was
for the last week.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Hey much, how much of a grace period are you
giving Scott Robertson here? I mean we're on the verge
of four straight defeat to the spring Box two under
his watch. Are you in the campus saying, hey, it
was his first year, we'll write this off. Or does
he really need a win to assert his credibility in
year one as All Backs coach tomorrow?
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Well, I think it will deeply hurt him if he doesn't,
both personally and from sort of the media and the
wider public's perspective. But I do think that the game
for now, we don't have a competition in between world
cups that get to be fair, doesn't get quite, doesn't
get close to it. Although I've loved the intensity of
the Rugby Championship games so far. So it is it
(05:03):
is critical because you know, call it the honeym and
call it whatever you like. It is well and truly
over with a loss in this game and Cape Town
and ahead of what will be a pretty arduous the
end of year tour. And I'm sorry, but the Wallabies
that we know easy beats either. I mean, Smith is,
Josemi is making Josemi is making progress with that team.
(05:25):
So this is critical because you know, when you think
the last time what we lost four straight was somewhere
around World War two, So you're really handing them the
dominance on the play here. If we don't get up
tonight and Scott Robinson will be you know, the blow
torch will be on him. And it wasn't. We had
(05:46):
all sorts of things, you know, documentary three part documentaries
on Sky before it'd even taken over as all Black
coach you know had been named of course, but you know,
so it was all like you know and Raizer, we
trust it's all going to change everything. You know, Well,
hold on a minute, it hasn't and there's the bar
has got a long way to go, so yeah, he
(06:07):
needs to win desperately.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Yeah, when's the honeymoon over for you? Campbell?
Speaker 6 (06:13):
Well, yeah, I think it's a funny one because the
All Backs played so well for sixty minutes and they
dominated the box. Didn't play that well last weekend, but
then it was a matter of finishing and the Allbacks
lost a bit of Nolson nerve late in the game.
So I would say that if the All Backs drop
the day's Test, well, look they say sorry tomorrow's Test.
There's always pressure on. But I think probably you'll be
(06:36):
looking more to the betters like Cup, you know. So
if we struggle to hold that, or god God forbid
we don't hold that, then the honeymoon moon period will
definitely be over. But if you look at it in isolation,
theillback's unconvincing in two Tests against England, better against Fiji
when they missed fifty five tackles the opposition. They lost
to the Permas in Wellington, they played well in the
(06:57):
first half at Eden Park, played very well on the
first half in joe Burg. So there's been bits and glimpses.
I guess of what the Allbacks can do. It just
there hasn't been that clarity, particularly on attack, and they're
kicking games, so there's there's all these question marks around here.
We had the Leon McDonald saga. It's been an unconvincing
start to his tenure. You'd have to say, but if
(07:20):
they if they lose narrowly tomorrow but give give a
fairly good account of themselves, well people will probably say, oh, well,
we expected them to perhaps go down Turnill to the Box,
but which is unusual because you never you'd never say
that about an All Vacks team, that you would expect
them to go down Tournil. A lot of people were
hoping for one all for this this short series, so
(07:41):
I guess there're different expectations about playing the Box. But
then once we get into the Aussie Games, you'd expect
a couple of convincing ones there and then and then
he may be able to buy himself some time before
the Northern tour.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yeah, plenty of questions to be answered tomorrow morning. Hamisha
Kai Campbell burns with us on the All Star panel.
This morning, Quick Break Back with more shortly caught us
a nine on the Ollsport Breakfast, Hamous Makay Campbell burns
with us on our All Star panel this morning. Guys
obviously just talking this great rivalry and you know the
amount of questions that might well be answered tomorrow. The
(08:14):
overarching I guess then at the moment is the possible
reinstatements of All Blacks and spring Box tours. I don't
think you'd find someone that does not agree that these
should be brought back.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Campbell, do you reckon this is?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
You know how important really is this for rugby's survival
with the public, having the rivalry kind of brought back
to seat a stage again.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
Well, it's going to be interesting. I guess it's a
bit short on detail. So we haven't heard from New
Zealand Rugby with regard to this, but I guess we
have to get used to the fact that in a
couple of years the rugby landscape and the schedule will
be looking different. There's a new broadcast deal which is
coming up, so this will be interesting. What does it
mean for the Rugby Championship and for Argentina and Australia.
(08:55):
Hard to know how they're going to shoehorn all of
the sudden, whether a potential eight match tour of South
Africa will be will take place in the July August
window or how that works. But from a rugby perspective,
you know that will hark back to nineteen ninety six,
the last large scale tour between the two in the Republic,
when we won one of the first series were ever
(09:17):
in sixty eight years. There they're all blacks, So I
guess excitement from a rugby perspective, But how's it all
going to work and fit? There's the Nation's Championship which
was supposed to kick off later that year, so and
we're always hearing about player welfare and congestion in the calendar.
So I guess there's a few things to work through.
But from a purely rugby and historical perspective, it sounds
(09:38):
pretty good.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Yeah, how much.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Signs are looking pretty good and there's enough noise to
suggest it's a genuine possibility, right, Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
And I think it'd be good. I mean, if I
think back to my own keen year old self, the
love of rugby came from the all blacks in South Africa.
I remember with a great deal of passion the two
tests to of France at the end of seventy seven.
You know, it's and the lions here. You know, I
think it's got wheels. It'll be I think, you know
Cam mentioned player welfare. I think if you're looking at
(10:09):
those number of kiss it'll be too clearly defined squads.
So if you know, I only end up being an
extra one or two tiesse matches, I think it'll be good.
I think the schools and the educationalists of New Zealand
should be, you know, licking their lips at the thought
of holistic education. Are following an all black tour, and
you know, all the things that can happen right through
(10:30):
society to make this game great again and get our
love back for it because we're struggling on that front.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
And all right, one more thing I want to get
you guys views on giving your experience as journalists. Obviously,
Israel out of Sunya sort of and caught on a
street in Auckland in a bit of a confrontation with
someone obviously claims of racial abuse, but he sort of
gave a bit of a spray back to the person.
Someone filmed it, obviously, and here he is having to
sort of defend his own actions. Hey, miss ye, I'm
sure covered many instances where sporting stars have been involved
(10:59):
and stuff in public. Then debate around that is there
any sort of right way that these sports stars can
can go about just making sure that containing themselves in.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Yeah, I think at the end of the day, the
best thing is to completely exit stage left as quick
as you can. I mean, Israel has he's got he
does have a fiery soide doesn't because otherwise he wouldn't
able to do what he does. But at the end
of the day, you are always going to become the
one who the spotlight is on. I mean the bloke
that's pulled over his car and everything. I mean, clearly
(11:29):
I haven't seen a close up picture of him, but
he must have a scar on his forehead from a
full front or the bottomy, because you would not want
to be, you know what a stupid thing to take
on Israel out of sayny. But I think at the
end of the day if this guy had gone him,
what would we be saying as a society as Israel
gave him a quick left and sorted them out and
moved on. I mean, personally, that's what happens to me.
(11:51):
That's what I would do, And so you know, oh
your can done violence. Well, you know, probably, but I
think at the end of the day is rather to
just walk and walk in the other direction until the
guy runs out of steam. He didn't look like the
furttest guy in the world, so he probably would. But
I think that's what you're going don't confront, don't give
him any oxygen.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Yeah that's true, Campbell, isn't it. You put one foot
wrong and you could get in a bit of trouble.
And what did you make of it?
Speaker 6 (12:15):
Yeah, well, I mean it's fair to say that you
always have to call out any instances of racism. So
he's done that, he's done the right thing, calling the police.
The guy was probably lucky he didn't get his beans,
but I guess he was kind of provoke him into
doing that, and of course it was all getting filmed,
so it just sounded like a really really provocative act
from this bloke and his mate, by the sound of it,
(12:36):
then tried to tried to put it back on Israel
to Sonya. So if there was an element of racism there,
then you know, the guy doesn't have a leg to
stand on, so you know, it was pretty Yeah, it
was pretty pretty average behavior for this guy just he
was out I think buying a pie after training. Israel said, so, yeah,
(12:57):
I mean, why can't he just he just get on
with his life without someone confronting him and in the street,
because if he had actually got into it, then I
know who he was going to come off second best.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Yeah, you're right, Campbell and Hamish. Appreciate your time.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
You can catch both Hamish McKay and Campbell Burns through
the weekend on our Gold Sport coverage of the NPC.
That's the All Star panel for another week. Appreciate your time, guys.
Quick Break Darcy water Grave hosting Weekend Sports today and tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
He'll join us for a bit of a preview next.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
The Orlacks have finished preparations for tomorrow morning's Rugby Championship
rematch against the spring Box in Cape Town. First five
Damien McKenzie says accuracy would be the key to a
New Zealand win after letting a ten point lead slip
away in the first test in Johannesburg. In the NPC
Bay of Plenty have thrashed one War two sixty eight
fourteen in the loft Door to move to second on
(00:38):
the latter. World number one Janick Sinner has won the
first sets against Britain's Jack Draper in the Doueus Tennis
Open semi final in New York. It's the first time
Drapers dropped the sets in the tournament. Swimmer Cameron Leslie
has finished fourth in the men's S four to fifty
meter free style final at the Paralympics in Paris. Meanwhile,
para athlete Anna Grimaldi has finished fourth in the women's
(00:58):
T forty seven long jump final, while Holly Robinson has
proclaimed sixth in the women's f forty six javelin final form.
Waller b Mark the wong to us there has scored
in his NROL debut during the Rooster's thirty six to
twenty eight win over the Rabbito's in Sydney to take
second on the latter. Meanwhile, the Eels have handed the
Tigers the wooden spoon after a sixty points to twenty
sixth bouting in Campbelltown, and three time champion Primo's Roglicic
(01:21):
has taken the general classification lead with two stages remaining
inside Pens Bltzer Espaniard. That's your sport.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Good on to Elijah, thanks very much. Catch again after
the nine o'clock our the Sports News. It's twenty one
away from nine here on the All Sport Breakfast.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
All Sport Breakfast, All Star Panel.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Excited for this one all star panel today featuring two
of our gold sports commentators, Haimash McKay and Rugby News
editor Campbell Burns.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Good morning gents.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Good morning Adam.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah, great to have you both on board. Plenty of
rugby to discuss, which I know will be right up
both of your allies. A right, let's get into this
All Blacks spring box. Three am. Tomorrow All Blacks obviously
wanting to redeem themselves before heading back down this part
of the world. Heymish number of changes from both sides.
What have you sort of looked at a more sort
of stronger move South Africa rolling in the experience, or
(02:13):
the All Blacks starting with a few of the young guns.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Yeah, I'm interested in in the changes in the South
African team. The likes of Willie LaRue, who propped to me,
offers an opportunity because there's been plenty of times when
Willy's been a little bit shaky at the back for
the box historically. But you know, then you just start
reading through the rest of the team and you go,
you know, look at what they've defaulted to. I mean,
Williams is a sensational halfback, Henre Pola. We know how
(02:39):
good he is, different type of verse five eight, So
I think they'll be a much of a muchness overall.
I'm liking Jordan at fullback. I think that it's time
that it has happened. We'll definitely miss Caleb Clark. You know,
I'm sorry this daylight between him and severa Reese. I'm
just going to come out and say it in my opinion.
But you know, look, look look outside of that. While
(02:59):
a Satisi what a baptism of fire. You don't go
any deeper than the spring Box in Cape Town. So
you know, our guys have been saying they need to
be more accurate. I don't know if it's more accurate.
You just got to hurt them more in contact because
they hurt us more force to turnovers. They spill the
pill and South Africa and take advantage of it. So
I'm liking I'd like to see Jacobson get involved in
(03:21):
the game. He's got those concrete shoulders, the sort of
player that first five eights like Campbell Burns hated because
they absolutely So there you go. I'm excited. I think
both things have made changes, but you know it'll be
close again.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yeah, Campbell. Realistically, with the likes of Voting Barretts and TJ.
Pittinada on the bench, if things are really in trouble
early on, how soon could we be seeing them feature
on the field tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (03:47):
Well that's the Yeah, that's the six million dollar question.
Because last week the all BECs went fairly late to
their bench. The entire spring Box Bomb squad was already
on and so they had more time to get into
their work, so that's going to be a strategical issue
for for Razor. It's hard to say, really when you
know when's the good time, because often they bring the
earlier around about the fifty minutes. But someone like Boden Barred,
(04:09):
if it's not going well, you'd probably need him in
sooner rather than later to bring that impact that he
did in the in the English tests back in July.
So how they how and when they introduce their subs
could well be pivotal to this test, as it was
for the last week.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Hey much, how much of a grace period are you
giving Scott Robertson here? I mean we're on the verge
of four straight defeat to the spring Box two under
his watch. Are you in the campus saying, hey, it
was his first year, we'll write this off. Or does
he really need a win to assert his credibility in
year one as All Backs coach tomorrow?
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Well, I think it will deeply hurt him if he doesn't,
both personally and from sort of the media and the
wider public's perspective. But I do think that the game
for now, we don't have a competition in between world
cups that get to be fair, doesn't get quite, doesn't
get close to it. Although I've loved the intensity of
the Rugby Championship games so far. So it is it
(05:03):
is critical because you know, call it the honeym and
call it whatever you like. It is well and truly
over with a loss in this game and Cape Town
and ahead of what will be a pretty arduous the
end of year tour. And I'm sorry, but the Wallabies
that we know easy beats either. I mean, Smith is,
Josemi is making Josemi is making progress with that team.
(05:25):
So this is critical because you know, when you think
the last time what we lost four straight was somewhere
around World War two, So you're really handing them the
dominance on the play here. If we don't get up
tonight and Scott Robinson will be you know, the blow
torch will be on him. And it wasn't. We had
(05:46):
all sorts of things, you know, documentary three part documentaries
on Sky before it'd even taken over as all Black
coach you know had been named of course, but you know,
so it was all like you know and Raizer, we
trust it's all going to change everything. You know, Well,
hold on a minute, it hasn't and there's the bar
has got a long way to go, so yeah, he
(06:07):
needs to win desperately.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Yeah, when's the honeymoon over for you? Campbell?
Speaker 6 (06:13):
Well, yeah, I think it's a funny one because the
All Backs played so well for sixty minutes and they
dominated the box. Didn't play that well last weekend, but
then it was a matter of finishing and the Allbacks
lost a bit of Nolson nerve late in the game.
So I would say that if the All Backs drop
the day's Test, well, look they say sorry tomorrow's Test.
There's always pressure on. But I think probably you'll be
(06:36):
looking more to the betters like Cup, you know. So
if we struggle to hold that, or god God forbid
we don't hold that, then the honeymoon moon period will
definitely be over. But if you look at it in isolation,
theillback's unconvincing in two Tests against England, better against Fiji
when they missed fifty five tackles the opposition. They lost
to the Permas in Wellington, they played well in the
(06:57):
first half at Eden Park, played very well on the
first half in joe Burg. So there's been bits and glimpses.
I guess of what the Allbacks can do. It just
there hasn't been that clarity, particularly on attack, and they're
kicking games, so there's there's all these question marks around here.
We had the Leon McDonald saga. It's been an unconvincing
start to his tenure. You'd have to say, but if
(07:20):
they if they lose narrowly tomorrow but give give a
fairly good account of themselves, well people will probably say, oh, well,
we expected them to perhaps go down Turnill to the Box,
but which is unusual because you never you'd never say
that about an All Vacks team, that you would expect
them to go down Tournil. A lot of people were
hoping for one all for this this short series, so
(07:41):
I guess there're different expectations about playing the Box. But
then once we get into the Aussie Games, you'd expect
a couple of convincing ones there and then and then
he may be able to buy himself some time before
the Northern tour.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yeah, plenty of questions to be answered tomorrow morning. Hamisha
Kai Campbell burns with us on the All Star panel.
This morning, Quick Break Back with more shortly caught us
a nine on the Ollsport Breakfast, Hamous Makay Campbell burns
with us on our All Star panel this morning. Guys
obviously just talking this great rivalry and you know the
amount of questions that might well be answered tomorrow. The
(08:14):
overarching I guess then at the moment is the possible
reinstatements of All Blacks and spring Box tours. I don't
think you'd find someone that does not agree that these
should be brought back.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Campbell, do you reckon this is?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
You know how important really is this for rugby's survival
with the public, having the rivalry kind of brought back
to seat a stage again.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
Well, it's going to be interesting. I guess it's a
bit short on detail. So we haven't heard from New
Zealand Rugby with regard to this, but I guess we
have to get used to the fact that in a
couple of years the rugby landscape and the schedule will
be looking different. There's a new broadcast deal which is
coming up, so this will be interesting. What does it
mean for the Rugby Championship and for Argentina and Australia.
(08:55):
Hard to know how they're going to shoehorn all of
the sudden, whether a potential eight match tour of South
Africa will be will take place in the July August
window or how that works. But from a rugby perspective,
you know that will hark back to nineteen ninety six,
the last large scale tour between the two in the Republic,
when we won one of the first series were ever
(09:17):
in sixty eight years. There they're all blacks, So I
guess excitement from a rugby perspective, But how's it all
going to work and fit? There's the Nation's Championship which
was supposed to kick off later that year, so and
we're always hearing about player welfare and congestion in the calendar.
So I guess there's a few things to work through.
But from a purely rugby and historical perspective, it sounds
(09:38):
pretty good.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Yeah, how much.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Signs are looking pretty good and there's enough noise to
suggest it's a genuine possibility, right, Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
And I think it'd be good. I mean, if I
think back to my own keen year old self, the
love of rugby came from the all blacks in South Africa.
I remember with a great deal of passion the two
tests to of France at the end of seventy seven.
You know, it's and the lions here. You know, I
think it's got wheels. It'll be I think, you know
Cam mentioned player welfare. I think if you're looking at
(10:09):
those number of kiss it'll be too clearly defined squads.
So if you know, I only end up being an
extra one or two tiesse matches, I think it'll be good.
I think the schools and the educationalists of New Zealand
should be, you know, licking their lips at the thought
of holistic education. Are following an all black tour, and
you know, all the things that can happen right through
(10:30):
society to make this game great again and get our
love back for it because we're struggling on that front.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
And all right, one more thing I want to get
you guys views on giving your experience as journalists. Obviously,
Israel out of Sunya sort of and caught on a
street in Auckland in a bit of a confrontation with
someone obviously claims of racial abuse, but he sort of
gave a bit of a spray back to the person.
Someone filmed it, obviously, and here he is having to
sort of defend his own actions. Hey, miss ye, I'm
sure covered many instances where sporting stars have been involved
(10:59):
and stuff in public. Then debate around that is there
any sort of right way that these sports stars can
can go about just making sure that containing themselves in.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Yeah, I think at the end of the day, the
best thing is to completely exit stage left as quick
as you can. I mean, Israel has he's got he
does have a fiery soide doesn't because otherwise he wouldn't
able to do what he does. But at the end
of the day, you are always going to become the
one who the spotlight is on. I mean the bloke
that's pulled over his car and everything. I mean, clearly
(11:29):
I haven't seen a close up picture of him, but
he must have a scar on his forehead from a
full front or the bottomy, because you would not want
to be, you know what a stupid thing to take
on Israel out of sayny. But I think at the
end of the day if this guy had gone him,
what would we be saying as a society as Israel
gave him a quick left and sorted them out and
moved on. I mean, personally, that's what happens to me.
(11:51):
That's what I would do, And so you know, oh
your can done violence. Well, you know, probably, but I
think at the end of the day is rather to
just walk and walk in the other direction until the
guy runs out of steam. He didn't look like the
furttest guy in the world, so he probably would. But
I think that's what you're going don't confront, don't give
him any oxygen.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Yeah that's true, Campbell, isn't it. You put one foot
wrong and you could get in a bit of trouble.
And what did you make of it?
Speaker 6 (12:15):
Yeah, well, I mean it's fair to say that you
always have to call out any instances of racism. So
he's done that, he's done the right thing, calling the police.
The guy was probably lucky he didn't get his beans,
but I guess he was kind of provoke him into
doing that, and of course it was all getting filmed,
so it just sounded like a really really provocative act
from this bloke and his mate, by the sound of it,
(12:36):
then tried to tried to put it back on Israel
to Sonya. So if there was an element of racism there,
then you know, the guy doesn't have a leg to
stand on, so you know, it was pretty Yeah, it
was pretty pretty average behavior for this guy just he
was out I think buying a pie after training. Israel said, so, yeah,
(12:57):
I mean, why can't he just he just get on
with his life without someone confronting him and in the street,
because if he had actually got into it, then I
know who he was going to come off second best.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Yeah, you're right, Campbell and Hamish. Appreciate your time.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
You can catch both Hamish McKay and Campbell Burns through
the weekend on our Gold Sport coverage of the NPC.
That's the All Star panel for another week. Appreciate your time, guys.
Quick Break Darcy water Grave hosting Weekend Sports today and tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
He'll join us for a bit of a preview next.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Yeah, heat Wave do the winter month.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
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