The latest edition of 'The All-Star Panel' features Rugby Writer Phil Gifford and Rugby Commentator Paul Allison.
On this weekend's agenda: What is this All Blacks v Japan test all about? The Comm Games have been chopped in half, and how good have the Silver Ferns been?
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the All Sport Breakfast podcast with Darcy
Wildegrave from News Talk SEDB, Paul Sport Breakfast All Star Panel.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
And the stars are they are a shining Mister Phil
Gifford and mister Paul Allison joining us. Gift welcome, good
to have you on board.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Yeah, love to be here mate.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Mister Allison, just as delightful to have your participation in
this panel.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
To morning, Darcy, what have you been on this morning?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
We did for breakfast and.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Baked beans, spaghetti, avocado muffins, toast coffee. Does the list
go on? It doesn't for a week. I'm always I've
had no sleep. I went to bed after the cricket
at midnight. I've got up at four, so I'm sleep deprived.
I've lost that. Let's get things going underway, not about me,
all about other things and away from the joy of
(00:59):
the cricket right now the impressive silver ferns, Paul. They've
really stepped up the level, haven't they. I suppose the
proof of the pudding is when it gets eaten in
Perth because they've got a nasty habit. Have the Australians
of coming back to bite?
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Have they not yeah, they have.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
But we've done so well in this constellation cut this
year because we've got some goal margins, which is what
it's all about, because we're going to lock away the
silver were as long as we don't concede losses by
more than twenty five goals in total over the next
two games. So we haven't beaten Australia in this series
since twenty twenty one, but the last two series have
(01:39):
been drawn to all and Australia haven't won on New
Zealand soil since twenty nineteen. But you think that what
we've done against England where we got beaten in that
series two to one, and now we've come back and
had convincing wins against Australia.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
But at both ends of the court we've done so well.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
I mean at the shooting end with Milweki and then
they at the defensive ends with Hefferenen and Berger and
Kelly Jackson. I mean, we've just closed Astro down. So
whether we can continue that momentumll no. Tomorrow night gets
underway in Perth at nine o'clock and then back in
Melbourne on Wednesday night. But I'm pretty confident that we're
going to lock away the Constellation Cup for twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Well, I don't share your confidence because the Australians are scary.
What about you, Phil? Can the Aussies come back and
drag us back into our place again?
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Well?
Speaker 3 (02:27):
They could, but I'm with Paul, Actually I don't think
they will. I think this New Zealand team has got
I mean that the defense, and I know Evan Waering
was concerned about we were playing too rough as far
as I'm saying, you can't get rough enough against an
Australian team, but that's by the bye. I think the
defense of the group have really stood up. The one
(02:48):
concern I've got is funny enough is not not for
this series, but when Grace and Wiki goes to Australia,
because to me, I do wonder how good the team
would be without her because she is extraordinary. I mean,
I think you have to go back to Irene van
Dyke to get a shooter that's got the abilities not
only the accuracy, but also the ability to pick up
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anything that's throwing vaguely within what appears to be about
ten meters of it. The young woman can reach out
with one arm. She keeps her left leg back on
the ground right next to the goal and then bingo,
there's another goal for you. So do I think we
will do all right in Australia? Yes, I definitely do.
Am I concerned about the future? Yeah? Iim a little
(03:31):
bit because, as I said, I just think min Wiki
is a once in a generation player and when you
lose people like that, it can be pretty tough.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
And its fascinated to see when it does draw level.
If it does draw level, how both teams will cope
with seven minutes both ways of extra time to determine
the home of the Constellation Cup. That's another story. Let's
move to rugby, a place where you guys are most happy.
I'm sure, Paul, I've got all sorts of let's face it,
(04:01):
cockolaid theories around the rugby that's going on. What scares
me the most about this game coming out this evening
at team to seven line of course on News Talk
ZB is that half the team aren't there. They've already
gone to Britain, and when the full team come together
and play England at Twickenham, they wouldn't have played together
for five weeks. I'm not really worried about this weekend.
(04:24):
I'm more concerned about what that says about next weekend.
Are my fears justified?
Speaker 4 (04:32):
I think you're overthinking it, Darcy.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
To be fair, these guys have been These guys have
been together all the way through, and I think it's
actually a good move because the Japanese match tonight, You've
got players in there which I think really needs some
time in the All Black Jersey Billy Proctor has one
Camroy guards another Wallace, a Teedi getting a chance at
number eight, which is probably his preferred position, but he
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can't get there because of Ardie Savia. You've got Damien
McKenzie was still a question mark hanging over him, both
with his decision making under pressure and his offloads and
his accuracy of his tactical kicking. I think these guys
have got an opportunity to be able to put their
hand up and say, hey, we should be considered for
what will be a really really tough tour.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
England, Ireland, France and Italy.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Three if of your top five nations in the world
and consecutive weeks is a really tough ask. So I
don't think you could have played your top side in
Japan and then expect them to travel and then be
up for the next three games as well.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
So I actually think they've done it right.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
And I don't think it's all about the money and
just promotion of the game. I think this is an
opportunity for some guys to get some valuable game time.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Not all of them, know Phil, I just like some
of them. There's eleven of the team that are gone.
I'm still even though I do bow to the superior
rugby intellect of mister Allison, I'm still allowed to be concerned. Now,
are you going to kick me when I'm down as well?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
No?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Not really does? Look I think I on the one hand,
I'm sorry. I do think Paul's right in as much as.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
And that's all we've got time for today. Carry on,
carry carry.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Look, travel comes into this thing, which is something that
we haven't really talked about much. But the fact is
you're going to like a complete flip flop in your
sleeping patterns when you're heading up to the UK. So
to get the to get the backbone of the team
up there and to get them adjusted to the time differences,
Number one, I think is a fairly sensible sort of thing.
Number two, this this this game in Japan, is a
(06:33):
bit of a weird one. And given in that poor
old Japan under fast Eddie Jones got thrashed by Figi
in the final the Spacific Cup week or two ago,
I think it'll be just a fairly easy run for
the All Blacks. I've got to say, just quickly, my
favorite quote, or my favorite statistic, I should say, of
(06:54):
the week. Some very conscientious Australian journey. I think it
was from from the Australian newspaper has obviously been counting
from the time that fast Dy had the England team
and the World Cup and it was a disaster, the
Australian moment in the World Cup and it was a disaster,
and apparently fourteen times, that's fourteen times. Ed he flatly
(07:17):
denied the journalist that there was any chance to have
going to coach Japan, which of course he is now
coaching Japan. So while Edie is now trying to talk,
this came up and saying we've got a chance. I
think a grain of salt. How about a trucklad us
up with anything that fast Eddie Jones says, ah, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
The Internet's got an astonishing memory, hasn't it. He can't
pass that one off as I was misunderstood or misquoted,
and on that we wait for more of the punchdowns
on dars from the Superior Rugby Intellect on Phil Gifford
and Paul Allison still freaks me out just saying it's
(07:54):
coming up next. As the All Star Panel continues here
on new stig zb as news Doorg's abe it is
eight of forty four. Let's carry on with the All
Star Panel and let's run toward the Commonwealth Games, whose
participants and divisions are running away. Well they've been forced to,
(08:19):
haven't made Paul Allison? This is really Is this deteriorating
to the point of farce or still very relevant?
Speaker 5 (08:27):
I think relevance is a really key word when you
start talking about the Commonwealth Games. I think this is
the only chance on life support of being able to
keep the Games alive for a little bit longer. I mean,
it's got out of control. You go back and I
know what I want to talk in the history, and
we've talked this over the years, Darcy, that you know
back in nineteen seventy four, there were nine sports, one
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hundred and twenty one events, thirty eight countries and twelve
hundred competitors. You go to Auckland when we hosted the
Commonwealth Games, there were ten sports, two hundred and four events,
fifty five associations and two thousand athletes. In nineteen ninety
eight when all the team sports started to come in
with cricket being introduced, to netball being introduced, in rugby
seven's being introduced, it's built out to fifteen and then
(09:11):
last time that's fifteen sports and the last time in
Birmingham and Birmingham there was twenty sports and five thousand competitors.
It's just got out of control in terms of its
size and its scale and its relevance.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
And last time it.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Was the week before the World Track and Field Champs, sorry,
the week after the Track and Field Champs and the
Jamaican athletes, so the top sprinters in the world didn't
turn up.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
So in terms of trying.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
To keep it alive, they've scaled it back. I've surprised
netball has actually been able to be retained as one
of the ten sports, but I actually think it's a
good decision. I was a little surprised at triathlon, but
they've taken it away from all of the logistical challenges
they haven't got the road cycling and the marathon and
the triathlon where you've actually got to go of outside
(09:55):
of stadiums and inside of basically you know, indoor facility.
So I actually think this is a really good decision
if they want to keep the com Wealth Games alive.
And films followed them for years and so he'll have
a view on this one as well, I'm sure, but
I'm actually thinking that I actually like what they're doing,
and ten sports, most of them individual sports, have actually
(10:17):
got a chance of maybe keeping some interest alive in
an event which I actually think is starting to lose
its appeal.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
It was rousing Paul Allison, I handed to you.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Take the mic, Phil, Yeah, well, Paul's dead right. I
love the Commonwealth Games. I first covered them. This is
a bit embarrassing, but I first covered them in nine
one in nineteen seventy in Edinburgh, for God's sake, about
a million years ago. And I've covered I think four
all together, including the Wonderful Games of seventy four in
christ Church. The last ones are covered are in Glasgow
in twenty sixteen. The fact is that if they didn't
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cut them down, they were going to be gone. Altogether
because you just couldn't afford it, and if they can
keep it going, because as I've said, I really enjoy
the Common Games. I know they're weird, I know they're
kind of an anachronism, but nevertheless, when you're actually at them,
they are so enjoyable because they're not so out of
control and size like the Olympics are. You can go
and see two or three sports in one day, and
(11:11):
if the choice is between well, I look like every
key I would love to see one of my favorite
teams in New Zealand without questions. It is for every
sports loving key. I think is the women's sevens rugby team.
They're fantastic, but you can't have everything in the comm
Games if they're going to keep going, and I think,
quite frankly from myself, given them that they've got the facilities,
if they have Commonwealth Games in Glasgow and then the
(11:34):
next Common Games in Manchester and then after that they
go back to Glasgow and they go backward and forwards,
I wouldn't have any issue with that either, because it
gives at least some sports, a reasonable number of sports
double figure number of sports a chance to compete on
an international scale and for a lot of key with athletes,
that's a great thing.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
The resounding thought process I'm getting even both of you
is if it keeps going. I suppose the question is
why would it keep going? But that's probably an hour's
conversation with both of you. So I'll let that one
pass and I'll go to another major sporting event that
happened last weekend. And by Hoky, I'm not quite sure
if anyone better than Eiland over here. The America's Cup,
(12:14):
well done, the three peat fantastic, but I feel like
it disappeared without a trace.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Paul Allison, Yeah, the time of day doesn't help when
you're watching it in the middle of the night. And
I think maybe the Yeah, I think if the the
real hard core yacht's probably got up and followed it,
and many of us maybe watched the highlights at best
as as it unfolded offshore.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
But it is a little bit difficult to sort of.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Get enthusiastic for an event that happens over a long
period of time and the qualifyings and the and and
the lead ups to it, and then when it happens. Yeah,
I'd love to see it come back to New Zealand.
If it's going to be you know, back here in
the future. But we'll have to wait and see. It's
all about money, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
And we haven't got any of there ever. We feel no,
we haven't made it.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Look the America's Cup to be Blood has always been
all about money, right when I very first started with
a multi millionaire is setting the thing up. But the
fact is having it in New Zealand. Yes, I would
love to see it in New Zealand because the races
they have now if it's in our time and it's
daylight and you can go and see them live even
down down at the waterfront and set and say, well, yeah,
they are fantastic. But it is staggeringly expensive to stage.
(13:22):
And just very quickly talking about the money. You know,
if we do stage it, then mister and missus taxpayer
are going to be paying for some of it. That's just
a harsh reality of it. I see Barcelona as a
side that once was enough for them, they didn't actually
get enough tourist money to make it worth while. Was
put more into it. But one of the things Grant Dalton,
who for a while there seemed to be the man
(13:42):
New Zealand Sports fans love to hate. One of the
things that he does do is the America's cut. The
New Zealand team puts a lot of money into the
New Zealand economy because they come back here and do
all they're setting up here and then head off to
different parts of the world where the billionaires have got
the deep pockets.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah, it still leaves me cold, but you know, I
love the racing, do not get me wrong. And I
watched every race, all them to delay and no I
didn't do it live. I love the racing, I love
the technology I'm enjoying. But outside of that, it still
leaves me a bit cold. But enough about that, and
that was my breakfast, many parts of it. One last
thing for the bath you real quick, Paul Allison. Can
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the New Zealanders roll the Indians on their own turf
and win that series away from home? It's possible or
is it probable?
Speaker 5 (14:30):
It's probable, but I'd still like to see them having
at least a three hundred and fifty run lead because
we're only going into Day three later this afternoon. And
although the pictures had some challenges to it, you just
never underestimate the Indian battis on their home turf.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
So I just sort of feel three point fifty would
give us a really good chance.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
At the moment we're going to leave the three hundred
still got five wickets in the shed the bat, so
let's hope we can do it and set history in India.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, and it might be a hope, phil Geffer, because
New Zealand's auto or the tale has fallen away off
a cliff with remarkable haste of recent times.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yea, it has a little art of that that West
in Australia One Day team. But look, let me just
finish chatting with you guys today by quating the great
philosopher Willie Nelson who once said that miracles appear in
the strangest of places. And a New Zealand cricket team
giving India or hiding in India, as far as I'm concerned,
that's a miracle and I'm starting to believe in them
(15:35):
now after what happened in the first Test. Maybe it'll
happen again, and I've got my fingers crossed it will.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
I love it on the road again, on the road again.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I love that term. Given the hiding, it's so old school.
Guys love having you both on the air. Thanks very
much for your time. Have a wonderful long weekend. If
indeed you've got one, park up in front of the
TV and love it for all it's worth. Good on you,
Paul Ellison, feel Goodford, Thank you?
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Thanks mate?
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Is does it?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Seven minutes away from nine? This is News Talks EB.
Jason Pine's going to join us next that have a
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bigger than Texas and of course they'd bringing Willie Nelson up.
He's marble sharp. As our producer Andy Duff, I've got
alternate lyrics to this involving dogs, which I won't repeat
(16:25):
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you know exactly what I'm talking about. On the road again,
This is News Talk's EB.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
And the stars are they are a shining Mister Phil
Gifford and mister Paul Allison joining us. Gift welcome, good
to have you on board.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Yeah, love to be here mate.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Mister Allison, just as delightful to have your participation in
this panel.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
To morning, Darcy, what have you been on this morning?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
We did for breakfast and.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Baked beans, spaghetti, avocado muffins, toast coffee. Does the list
go on? It doesn't for a week. I'm always I've
had no sleep. I went to bed after the cricket
at midnight. I've got up at four, so I'm sleep deprived.
I've lost that. Let's get things going underway, not about me,
all about other things and away from the joy of
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the cricket right now the impressive silver ferns, Paul. They've
really stepped up the level, haven't they. I suppose the
proof of the pudding is when it gets eaten in
Perth because they've got a nasty habit. Have the Australians
of coming back to bite?
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Have they not yeah, they have.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
But we've done so well in this constellation cut this
year because we've got some goal margins, which is what
it's all about, because we're going to lock away the
silver were as long as we don't concede losses by
more than twenty five goals in total over the next
two games. So we haven't beaten Australia in this series
since twenty twenty one, but the last two series have
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been drawn to all and Australia haven't won on New
Zealand soil since twenty nineteen. But you think that what
we've done against England where we got beaten in that
series two to one, and now we've come back and
had convincing wins against Australia.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
But at both ends of the court we've done so well.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
I mean at the shooting end with Milweki and then
they at the defensive ends with Hefferenen and Berger and
Kelly Jackson. I mean, we've just closed Astro down. So
whether we can continue that momentumll no. Tomorrow night gets
underway in Perth at nine o'clock and then back in
Melbourne on Wednesday night. But I'm pretty confident that we're
going to lock away the Constellation Cup for twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Well, I don't share your confidence because the Australians are scary.
What about you, Phil? Can the Aussies come back and
drag us back into our place again?
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Well?
Speaker 3 (02:27):
They could, but I'm with Paul, Actually I don't think
they will. I think this New Zealand team has got
I mean that the defense, and I know Evan Waering
was concerned about we were playing too rough as far
as I'm saying, you can't get rough enough against an
Australian team, but that's by the bye. I think the
defense of the group have really stood up. The one
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concern I've got is funny enough is not not for
this series, but when Grace and Wiki goes to Australia,
because to me, I do wonder how good the team
would be without her because she is extraordinary. I mean,
I think you have to go back to Irene van
Dyke to get a shooter that's got the abilities not
only the accuracy, but also the ability to pick up
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anything that's throwing vaguely within what appears to be about
ten meters of it. The young woman can reach out
with one arm. She keeps her left leg back on
the ground right next to the goal and then bingo,
there's another goal for you. So do I think we
will do all right in Australia? Yes, I definitely do.
Am I concerned about the future? Yeah? Iim a little
(03:31):
bit because, as I said, I just think min Wiki
is a once in a generation player and when you
lose people like that, it can be pretty tough.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
And its fascinated to see when it does draw level.
If it does draw level, how both teams will cope
with seven minutes both ways of extra time to determine
the home of the Constellation Cup. That's another story. Let's
move to rugby, a place where you guys are most happy.
I'm sure, Paul, I've got all sorts of let's face it,
(04:01):
cockolaid theories around the rugby that's going on. What scares
me the most about this game coming out this evening
at team to seven line of course on News Talk
ZB is that half the team aren't there. They've already
gone to Britain, and when the full team come together
and play England at Twickenham, they wouldn't have played together
for five weeks. I'm not really worried about this weekend.
(04:24):
I'm more concerned about what that says about next weekend.
Are my fears justified?
Speaker 4 (04:32):
I think you're overthinking it, Darcy.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
To be fair, these guys have been These guys have
been together all the way through, and I think it's
actually a good move because the Japanese match tonight, You've
got players in there which I think really needs some
time in the All Black Jersey Billy Proctor has one
Camroy guards another Wallace, a Teedi getting a chance at
number eight, which is probably his preferred position, but he
(04:54):
can't get there because of Ardie Savia. You've got Damien
McKenzie was still a question mark hanging over him, both
with his decision making under pressure and his offloads and
his accuracy of his tactical kicking. I think these guys
have got an opportunity to be able to put their
hand up and say, hey, we should be considered for
what will be a really really tough tour.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
England, Ireland, France and Italy.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Three if of your top five nations in the world
and consecutive weeks is a really tough ask. So I
don't think you could have played your top side in
Japan and then expect them to travel and then be
up for the next three games as well.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
So I actually think they've done it right.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
And I don't think it's all about the money and
just promotion of the game. I think this is an
opportunity for some guys to get some valuable game time.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Not all of them, know Phil, I just like some
of them. There's eleven of the team that are gone.
I'm still even though I do bow to the superior
rugby intellect of mister Allison, I'm still allowed to be concerned. Now,
are you going to kick me when I'm down as well?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
No?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Not really does? Look I think I on the one hand,
I'm sorry. I do think Paul's right in as much as.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
And that's all we've got time for today. Carry on,
carry carry.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Look, travel comes into this thing, which is something that
we haven't really talked about much. But the fact is
you're going to like a complete flip flop in your
sleeping patterns when you're heading up to the UK. So
to get the to get the backbone of the team
up there and to get them adjusted to the time differences,
Number one, I think is a fairly sensible sort of thing.
Number two, this this this game in Japan, is a
(06:33):
bit of a weird one. And given in that poor
old Japan under fast Eddie Jones got thrashed by Figi
in the final the Spacific Cup week or two ago,
I think it'll be just a fairly easy run for
the All Blacks. I've got to say, just quickly, my
favorite quote, or my favorite statistic, I should say, of
(06:54):
the week. Some very conscientious Australian journey. I think it
was from from the Australian newspaper has obviously been counting
from the time that fast Dy had the England team
and the World Cup and it was a disaster, the
Australian moment in the World Cup and it was a disaster,
and apparently fourteen times, that's fourteen times. Ed he flatly
(07:17):
denied the journalist that there was any chance to have
going to coach Japan, which of course he is now
coaching Japan. So while Edie is now trying to talk,
this came up and saying we've got a chance. I
think a grain of salt. How about a trucklad us
up with anything that fast Eddie Jones says, ah, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
The Internet's got an astonishing memory, hasn't it. He can't
pass that one off as I was misunderstood or misquoted,
and on that we wait for more of the punchdowns
on dars from the Superior Rugby Intellect on Phil Gifford
and Paul Allison still freaks me out just saying it's
(07:54):
coming up next. As the All Star Panel continues here
on new stig zb as news Doorg's abe it is
eight of forty four. Let's carry on with the All
Star Panel and let's run toward the Commonwealth Games, whose
participants and divisions are running away. Well they've been forced to,
(08:19):
haven't made Paul Allison? This is really Is this deteriorating
to the point of farce or still very relevant?
Speaker 5 (08:27):
I think relevance is a really key word when you
start talking about the Commonwealth Games. I think this is
the only chance on life support of being able to
keep the Games alive for a little bit longer. I mean,
it's got out of control. You go back and I
know what I want to talk in the history, and
we've talked this over the years, Darcy, that you know
back in nineteen seventy four, there were nine sports, one
(08:48):
hundred and twenty one events, thirty eight countries and twelve
hundred competitors. You go to Auckland when we hosted the
Commonwealth Games, there were ten sports, two hundred and four events,
fifty five associations and two thousand athletes. In nineteen ninety
eight when all the team sports started to come in
with cricket being introduced, to netball being introduced, in rugby
seven's being introduced, it's built out to fifteen and then
(09:11):
last time that's fifteen sports and the last time in
Birmingham and Birmingham there was twenty sports and five thousand competitors.
It's just got out of control in terms of its
size and its scale and its relevance.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
And last time it.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Was the week before the World Track and Field Champs, sorry,
the week after the Track and Field Champs and the
Jamaican athletes, so the top sprinters in the world didn't
turn up.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
So in terms of trying.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
To keep it alive, they've scaled it back. I've surprised
netball has actually been able to be retained as one
of the ten sports, but I actually think it's a
good decision. I was a little surprised at triathlon, but
they've taken it away from all of the logistical challenges
they haven't got the road cycling and the marathon and
the triathlon where you've actually got to go of outside
(09:55):
of stadiums and inside of basically you know, indoor facility.
So I actually think this is a really good decision
if they want to keep the com Wealth Games alive.
And films followed them for years and so he'll have
a view on this one as well, I'm sure, but
I'm actually thinking that I actually like what they're doing,
and ten sports, most of them individual sports, have actually
(10:17):
got a chance of maybe keeping some interest alive in
an event which I actually think is starting to lose
its appeal.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
It was rousing Paul Allison, I handed to you.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Take the mic, Phil, Yeah, well, Paul's dead right. I
love the Commonwealth Games. I first covered them. This is
a bit embarrassing, but I first covered them in nine
one in nineteen seventy in Edinburgh, for God's sake, about
a million years ago. And I've covered I think four
all together, including the Wonderful Games of seventy four in
christ Church. The last ones are covered are in Glasgow
in twenty sixteen. The fact is that if they didn't
(10:49):
cut them down, they were going to be gone. Altogether
because you just couldn't afford it, and if they can
keep it going, because as I've said, I really enjoy
the Common Games. I know they're weird, I know they're
kind of an anachronism, but nevertheless, when you're actually at them,
they are so enjoyable because they're not so out of
control and size like the Olympics are. You can go
and see two or three sports in one day, and
(11:11):
if the choice is between well, I look like every
key I would love to see one of my favorite
teams in New Zealand without questions. It is for every
sports loving key. I think is the women's sevens rugby team.
They're fantastic, but you can't have everything in the comm
Games if they're going to keep going, and I think,
quite frankly from myself, given them that they've got the facilities,
if they have Commonwealth Games in Glasgow and then the
(11:34):
next Common Games in Manchester and then after that they
go back to Glasgow and they go backward and forwards,
I wouldn't have any issue with that either, because it
gives at least some sports, a reasonable number of sports
double figure number of sports a chance to compete on
an international scale and for a lot of key with athletes,
that's a great thing.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
The resounding thought process I'm getting even both of you
is if it keeps going. I suppose the question is
why would it keep going? But that's probably an hour's
conversation with both of you. So I'll let that one
pass and I'll go to another major sporting event that
happened last weekend. And by Hoky, I'm not quite sure
if anyone better than Eiland over here. The America's Cup,
(12:14):
well done, the three peat fantastic, but I feel like
it disappeared without a trace.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Paul Allison, Yeah, the time of day doesn't help when
you're watching it in the middle of the night. And
I think maybe the Yeah, I think if the the
real hard core yacht's probably got up and followed it,
and many of us maybe watched the highlights at best
as as it unfolded offshore.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
But it is a little bit difficult to sort of.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Get enthusiastic for an event that happens over a long
period of time and the qualifyings and the and and
the lead ups to it, and then when it happens. Yeah,
I'd love to see it come back to New Zealand.
If it's going to be you know, back here in
the future. But we'll have to wait and see. It's
all about money, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
And we haven't got any of there ever. We feel no,
we haven't made it.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Look the America's Cup to be Blood has always been
all about money, right when I very first started with
a multi millionaire is setting the thing up. But the
fact is having it in New Zealand. Yes, I would
love to see it in New Zealand because the races
they have now if it's in our time and it's
daylight and you can go and see them live even
down down at the waterfront and set and say, well, yeah,
they are fantastic. But it is staggeringly expensive to stage.
(13:22):
And just very quickly talking about the money. You know,
if we do stage it, then mister and missus taxpayer
are going to be paying for some of it. That's just
a harsh reality of it. I see Barcelona as a
side that once was enough for them, they didn't actually
get enough tourist money to make it worth while. Was
put more into it. But one of the things Grant Dalton,
who for a while there seemed to be the man
(13:42):
New Zealand Sports fans love to hate. One of the
things that he does do is the America's cut. The
New Zealand team puts a lot of money into the
New Zealand economy because they come back here and do
all they're setting up here and then head off to
different parts of the world where the billionaires have got
the deep pockets.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah, it still leaves me cold, but you know, I
love the racing, do not get me wrong. And I
watched every race, all them to delay and no I
didn't do it live. I love the racing, I love
the technology I'm enjoying. But outside of that, it still
leaves me a bit cold. But enough about that, and
that was my breakfast, many parts of it. One last
thing for the bath you real quick, Paul Allison. Can
(14:22):
the New Zealanders roll the Indians on their own turf
and win that series away from home? It's possible or
is it probable?
Speaker 5 (14:30):
It's probable, but I'd still like to see them having
at least a three hundred and fifty run lead because
we're only going into Day three later this afternoon. And
although the pictures had some challenges to it, you just
never underestimate the Indian battis on their home turf.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
So I just sort of feel three point fifty would
give us a really good chance.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
At the moment we're going to leave the three hundred
still got five wickets in the shed the bat, so
let's hope we can do it and set history in India.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, and it might be a hope, phil Geffer, because
New Zealand's auto or the tale has fallen away off
a cliff with remarkable haste of recent times.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yea, it has a little art of that that West
in Australia One Day team. But look, let me just
finish chatting with you guys today by quating the great
philosopher Willie Nelson who once said that miracles appear in
the strangest of places. And a New Zealand cricket team
giving India or hiding in India, as far as I'm concerned,
that's a miracle and I'm starting to believe in them
(15:35):
now after what happened in the first Test. Maybe it'll
happen again, and I've got my fingers crossed it will.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
I love it on the road again, on the road again.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I love that term. Given the hiding, it's so old school.
Guys love having you both on the air. Thanks very
much for your time. Have a wonderful long weekend. If
indeed you've got one, park up in front of the
TV and love it for all it's worth. Good on you,
Paul Ellison, feel Goodford, Thank you?
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Thanks mate?
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Is does it?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Seven minutes away from nine? This is News Talks EB.
Jason Pine's going to join us next that have a
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bigger than Texas and of course they'd bringing Willie Nelson up.
He's marble sharp. As our producer Andy Duff, I've got
alternate lyrics to this involving dogs, which I won't repeat
(16:25):
because i'll be taking off air. If you're of my area,
you know exactly what I'm talking about. On the road again,
This is News Talk's EB.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
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