This week’s panel features NZ Herald Sports Journalist Michael Burgess and Sports Commentator Lavina Good. On the agenda this weekend:
- Is the 'Run it Straight' style game a stain on society?
- Violence against referees in local rugby.
- What will Gary Stead's legacy be once he fully retires?
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the All Sport Breakfast podcast with Darcy
Waldgrave from News Talk SEDB All Sports Breakfast, All Star Pedal.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
And this is my program or what I want, don't
hit me. We're going to go now to the All
Star panel and we are joined by Tom Faives, Michael Burgers,
New Zealand Herald sports writer Mike and Levina Good. It's
been too long, Levina, welcome back.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Darcy. I thought you broke up with me, but it's
all good. Now we're back together.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
We're walking hand in hand in the sunlight. I'm not
know we're not I'm not saying that. Hey, let's kick
things off with the and I will start with you,
mister Burgess. The I'm calling it the Darwin Awards Trilogy,
which is basically it started off with power slap that
it went to run it straight. Now we've got the
backyard brawls with Dan. When do you sit on this?
(01:00):
This has been huge in the media in the last
couple of weeks around the I suppose the odosey it's
the human stat isn't it.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
It's what we like.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Yeah, right from the days of you know, Gladiators in Rome,
which is pretty crazy it does appeal to a certain
a certain section of people.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
I haven't watched any of it, but that wouldn't surprise
you does. But I think.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
I don't think it's going to last because I think
one of the big issues here will be that no
one will want to host it, you know, and to
where are they going to have it?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
All?
Speaker 5 (01:33):
All the parks and stadiums in New Zealand pretty much
a council or a government owned more or less so
and no one wants. I feel like more and more
people won't want to be associated with it.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Well, the Warriors, some of the Warriors are walking away,
going in now, we don't want to borrow this, and
that's that's probably a directive from up above because it
doesn't reflect well on the so called family values of
sports club's mind.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
That's right, I mean that it was.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
It was surprising to see Chanelle Harris Deavita associated with it,
but you know, he maybe had a friend who was
helping to run it, and he thought, oh, yeah, that
sounds cool.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
But then when he realized the ramifications of it.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
You know, it's easy to criticize new things and popular
things that maybe went on into other people and into
but I just don't see how this is going to
work for so many reasons, and it just feels like
it's part of this social media age where we're constantly
upping the ante and things have got to be more
(02:34):
and more crazy to get attention and to get cut through.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
And I don't know, I just what's wrong with just
a good old game of bull rush.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
You know, it's the same thing, careful leavin a good look.
It appeals to as I said before, they're common denominators.
It's baseline human psyche. I'm bigger and tougher than you.
I win, there's money to be made. It's clickbaits. It
looks straight into the veins of the masses, and the
rules are really simple. See you can see what it's
got some traction as foolish as it.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Is, right, Yeah, Darcy, our thoughts, obviously the whole country
go out to Ryan Sawait and his family water loss,
and it's obviously brought to the attention of many people.
As soon as I found out about it, I contacted
my two teenage sons and said, hey, guys, like this
is a warning and something's gone out. And when I
first came to New Zealand, a couple of decades ago,
(03:26):
there was an incident actually now that you mentioned that,
Michael with a bull rush where I think it was
just over twenty years ago, but that was another young
man that was participating in bull rush after being on
a night on the raz and his life was taken
as well. That back then there wasn't a social media
frenzy or craze encouraging something. And it wasn't just Chanelle
(03:47):
Harris Tavita that decided to support the promotions of Runner.
It was also one of the club's mentors, Manu Vatuve,
which is quite ironic that he's a mentor of the club.
But since then, I've actually, I don't know about you guys.
I thought I think the Warriors have been too quiet
on it. I read a comment from Andrew Webster saying
I'm not on social media, I don't want to give
a comment, and that's not good enough. I don't think.
(04:08):
I think all those influences and social media people that
are benefiting from something that is basically being considered a
professional sport, even though it's become a backyard sport. It
is kind of barbaric and it's colliding without any rules
and I've watched it online and it's not something that
appeals to me as a sport. And I know it
(04:29):
grew in popularity, but I think this warning from what
happened to Satwaite. It ain't sport and it's barbaric. It's
not sport. It's barbaric. And I love sports where it's
physical activity. I mean, I watched The State of Origin
on Wednesday night and I loved the colliding aspect of
that sport. But it's within the realms of professionalism and
(04:50):
it's guided, and I just think with young people out there,
the message can't It's probably not even a message from
the government. It comes from the hard party. It comes
from the community. And for that to happen, ex players
like George Burgess to come out and say, hey, it's
something for us to do. You know when we retire, Well,
you're making coin out of it, buddy, and there's a
life that has been lost. So the warning is there now,
(05:10):
and I know my kids will certainly not be participating it,
and I hope they're courageous enough to tell others that
are doing it in the backyard not to do it
because it's not safe and it's not entertaining.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Michael Burgesson, and it kind of comes in Cahootes with
hotophanoa carpety rugby saying they're going to cancel club rugby
games if there's any more referee abuse or threats. It's
the same kind of area here. This is marvelous what
they're doing. They finally stop up saying like this is ridiculous.
We're not putting up this anymore. We're going to punish
(05:40):
the whole community and maybe they can start self policing.
This appeal to you.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
It was fantastic.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
It's you know, because referees are never appreciated. They're often hated,
and they're not appreciated till they're not there, you know.
And the best example is when you're playing you know,
social sport, when you're playing your over thirty.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Five soccer or your rugby or or something.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Referee doesn't turn up and suddenly it's like either there's
no game or the club manager has got a has
got to do the reffing it and it sort of
descends into chaos. So it's a it's a fantastic move,
but it's also it's again very sad. The point that
stood at the article to me. Was was the CEO
saying that we've seen a slow and constant downward spiral
(06:29):
in this referee abuse because it's always been there, you know.
I remember going to Carlos Parkington Park in the eighties
and nineties and there are always people having to go
at the refs and grizzling afterwards.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
But it's got so much worse. There's so much. I
don't know.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
We live in a very angry world now. Maybe the
media is to blame a bit too, because we do
tend to focus on on so much on big mistakes
in NRAL and Test rugby and Super rugby. But yeah,
it's it's got out of control. There's so many of
these kind of stories and it's just something needs to
(07:02):
be done. And I think this is a fantastic step
to just make people realize we've got to change.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
And I had Corey Kennet, the chief executive of Harder
Fanua Carpany on earlier on in the week and what
I liked about at Levina good It wasn't just an
edict from above. They've talked to everybody. They've gone around
the referees, they've gone around the players, the clubs, they've
gone around the whole district, the whole province and says
what do you think, and they've all gone, yeah, this
is great. So it's not just one man or one board,
(07:33):
it's everybody buying into it.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
That's what I liked about it as well. I heard
that interview and I thought, you're really brave of Hoder
Fanua to come up and you know, kind of support
this concept. Let's remind everyone out there that the referees
are donating their skill and their times, right, so they're volunteers.
And there's been several surveys conducted by New Zealand Rugby
over the years that is showing, first of all, there's
(07:57):
a sixty percent increase and inappropriate behavior at least once
or twice a season for junior kids playing rugby. But
we're not just talking about here. Referees in general aren't
receiving any respect from the community. And when the parents
are going off at the referees on the sideline, what
is that telling to the kids? What are the kids
thinking there's a lack of respect for them. The referees
(08:20):
are leaving the game of rugby and if you don't
have a ref So yeah, I applaud it. I think
it's a great idea, but you know where it hits
people hardest is in the back pocket. That's where it
hits people hardest. So maybe you know there needs to
be club fines or maybe something put into place with
those that are mouthing off to the referee. We've all
had a little bit of an incident with a referee
in our time where you haven't agreed with the decision.
(08:42):
But if we take a step back and go they're
giving up their time, their skill, and their effort into
making this go ahead. Without the refs, you don't have
a game, and without the game, we don't have a sport.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
And on that we're going to come back shortly with
both of our crew, Levina Good and Michael Burgess. I
love the fact that Levina heard that interview. Either way,
you listen, Levina, thank you, love your work. He was great, Corey.
They really was up front like, hey, yeah, this is
what we're dealing with. Good on him. We're gonna carry
on talking about the big sports stories of the week.
Next Jason Pine, it's the on nine. Pine will join
(09:15):
us too. On News talks so much. It's twelve minutes
away from nine. Mike we're just living a good our panelist,
Gary Stead, it looks like it is all over for
arguably the most successful coach New Zealand cricket has ever employed.
(09:38):
Yours please, Michael.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Well, yeah, it's a good story here by Andrew Ordison,
and it is end of an era.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
You'd have to say he's overachieved because I remember when
he came in there wasn't too much excitement about him,
like had succeeded Mike Kessen had been extremely popular and
very successful, so it was a tough time to come in.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Gary Stead wasn't wasn't a b name I think for memories,
played five or six Tests, a lot of games for Canterbury.
But man, what he's done has been absolutely incredible. The
World Test Championship, the series victory in India, and let's
not forget to me international cricket. It's the toughest coaching
job there is.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
You know, unless you're unless you're single in twenty five,
which none of the coaches are obviously. You're away for
months and months on end, stuck in these hotel rooms
and all these kind of weird and wonderful cities, and
also cricket is a weird and wonderful game in terms
of what goes on behind the scenes. So he's been amazing.
(10:44):
A little bit surprising they don't want to continue with him.
I thought it would be a really good solution actually
to have him coaching test cricket and someone else coaching
the white ball cricket like a lot of other countries do.
But obviously not, so it's a bit of the same.
I just hope it's ended on his own terms.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Well it's not yet, it's been flagged. Put it that way, Levina.
What a great career. What I've loved about Gary Stead
is he's not apologetic about anything. And I'm taking some
time off tough, I'm doing this whatever. He's his own man,
and I really respect that he doesn't waiver with the
(11:23):
wins of opinion from the broadcasters and the public.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yeah. I've actually been thinking what I respect about Gary
Stad and it's not just the achievements that Michael just mentioned.
It's more the way that he led the team, or
has been leading the team when they're not as successful
as what we expect or anticipate. And he's just always
been one of those really cool, calm customers. He flies
under the radars sometimes and he's never claimed the success
(11:51):
as his own. He's always attributed that to the team
and I've really respected him for that, and I mean
what he's achieved, what Michael mentioned, has been absolutely outstanding
and has been our most successful coach since taking over
from Mike Hesson in twenty and eighty, which a lot
of people critique. Actually back then, no one expected what
he would do. But I wonder if he'll if he'll
(12:13):
look abroad, maybe following the footsteps of Fleming, McCullum, Vitry
and all the guys that are moving for overseas jobs
to try and make some coin, because to be honest,
that's where the money is. And you know, what he's
been doing is like a bastian of love for himself
for the country. And now I guess there's big decisions
to be made as to who will be the next
(12:34):
coach of the White All Red Ball, and I'm with Michael.
The Aussies have been doing that for ages. You've got
a red bull coach and a white ball coach and
that seems to be successful. It's an end of an
era once it goes ahead. If it goes ahead, and
I agree, I think he should be heralded for his achievements,
but also his attitude to the sport of cricket and
what he's done for cricket and New Zealand World Test Championship.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yes, but three Test victory over the Indian and we'll
finish things off nice and fast. Give it to us.
In a couple of sentences, Can the Warriors, Michael Bird
just bounce back against the Bunnies tomorrow afternoon at four.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
They don't have to.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
They don't have to because they've got the Kernella Sharks
the following week and then Penrith after the by so
we say the self and during a Warrior season. But yeah,
this is this is one of the games, one of
those games where it's marked turning point.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
They can bounce back and I think they will.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Yep, Levina, Yeah, I think they will. They have to.
I agree. It's that all within this Origin period and
I know that there's been plenty of chat about that
whether or not, you know, we should have an Origin
season maybe somewhere else, but at this stage that's not happening.
And the Warriors just need to realize that with Barnett back,
they're a better team and the pressure is on them
(13:46):
to win and that performance against the Raiders didn't impress
me at all. I think the Warriors know exactly what
they did wrong and they've got it against the Buddies.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Then Fisher Harris is back to leavena good Michael Burgess,
thank you so much for your time, hugely appreciated. Guys,
that is seven away from nine. Do anything else?
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
And this is my program or what I want, don't
hit me. We're going to go now to the All
Star panel and we are joined by Tom Faives, Michael Burgers,
New Zealand Herald sports writer Mike and Levina Good. It's
been too long, Levina, welcome back.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Darcy. I thought you broke up with me, but it's
all good. Now we're back together.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
We're walking hand in hand in the sunlight. I'm not
know we're not I'm not saying that. Hey, let's kick
things off with the and I will start with you,
mister Burgess. The I'm calling it the Darwin Awards Trilogy,
which is basically it started off with power slap that
it went to run it straight. Now we've got the
backyard brawls with Dan. When do you sit on this?
(01:00):
This has been huge in the media in the last
couple of weeks around the I suppose the odosey it's
the human stat isn't it.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
It's what we like.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Yeah, right from the days of you know, Gladiators in Rome,
which is pretty crazy it does appeal to a certain
a certain section of people.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
I haven't watched any of it, but that wouldn't surprise
you does. But I think.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
I don't think it's going to last because I think
one of the big issues here will be that no
one will want to host it, you know, and to
where are they going to have it?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
All?
Speaker 5 (01:33):
All the parks and stadiums in New Zealand pretty much
a council or a government owned more or less so
and no one wants. I feel like more and more
people won't want to be associated with it.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Well, the Warriors, some of the Warriors are walking away,
going in now, we don't want to borrow this, and
that's that's probably a directive from up above because it
doesn't reflect well on the so called family values of
sports club's mind.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
That's right, I mean that it was.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
It was surprising to see Chanelle Harris Deavita associated with it,
but you know, he maybe had a friend who was
helping to run it, and he thought, oh, yeah, that
sounds cool.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
But then when he realized the ramifications of it.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
You know, it's easy to criticize new things and popular
things that maybe went on into other people and into
but I just don't see how this is going to
work for so many reasons, and it just feels like
it's part of this social media age where we're constantly
upping the ante and things have got to be more
(02:34):
and more crazy to get attention and to get cut through.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
And I don't know, I just what's wrong with just
a good old game of bull rush.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
You know, it's the same thing, careful leavin a good look.
It appeals to as I said before, they're common denominators.
It's baseline human psyche. I'm bigger and tougher than you.
I win, there's money to be made. It's clickbaits. It
looks straight into the veins of the masses, and the
rules are really simple. See you can see what it's
got some traction as foolish as it.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Is, right, Yeah, Darcy, our thoughts, obviously the whole country
go out to Ryan Sawait and his family water loss,
and it's obviously brought to the attention of many people.
As soon as I found out about it, I contacted
my two teenage sons and said, hey, guys, like this
is a warning and something's gone out. And when I
first came to New Zealand, a couple of decades ago,
(03:26):
there was an incident actually now that you mentioned that,
Michael with a bull rush where I think it was
just over twenty years ago, but that was another young
man that was participating in bull rush after being on
a night on the raz and his life was taken
as well. That back then there wasn't a social media
frenzy or craze encouraging something. And it wasn't just Chanelle
(03:47):
Harris Tavita that decided to support the promotions of Runner.
It was also one of the club's mentors, Manu Vatuve,
which is quite ironic that he's a mentor of the club.
But since then, I've actually, I don't know about you guys.
I thought I think the Warriors have been too quiet
on it. I read a comment from Andrew Webster saying
I'm not on social media, I don't want to give
a comment, and that's not good enough. I don't think.
(04:08):
I think all those influences and social media people that
are benefiting from something that is basically being considered a
professional sport, even though it's become a backyard sport. It
is kind of barbaric and it's colliding without any rules
and I've watched it online and it's not something that
appeals to me as a sport. And I know it
(04:29):
grew in popularity, but I think this warning from what
happened to Satwaite. It ain't sport and it's barbaric. It's
not sport. It's barbaric. And I love sports where it's
physical activity. I mean, I watched The State of Origin
on Wednesday night and I loved the colliding aspect of
that sport. But it's within the realms of professionalism and
(04:50):
it's guided, and I just think with young people out there,
the message can't It's probably not even a message from
the government. It comes from the hard party. It comes
from the community. And for that to happen, ex players
like George Burgess to come out and say, hey, it's
something for us to do. You know when we retire, Well,
you're making coin out of it, buddy, and there's a
life that has been lost. So the warning is there now,
(05:10):
and I know my kids will certainly not be participating it,
and I hope they're courageous enough to tell others that
are doing it in the backyard not to do it
because it's not safe and it's not entertaining.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Michael Burgesson, and it kind of comes in Cahootes with
hotophanoa carpety rugby saying they're going to cancel club rugby
games if there's any more referee abuse or threats. It's
the same kind of area here. This is marvelous what
they're doing. They finally stop up saying like this is ridiculous.
We're not putting up this anymore. We're going to punish
(05:40):
the whole community and maybe they can start self policing.
This appeal to you.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
It was fantastic.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
It's you know, because referees are never appreciated. They're often hated,
and they're not appreciated till they're not there, you know.
And the best example is when you're playing you know,
social sport, when you're playing your over thirty.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Five soccer or your rugby or or something.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Referee doesn't turn up and suddenly it's like either there's
no game or the club manager has got a has
got to do the reffing it and it sort of
descends into chaos. So it's a it's a fantastic move,
but it's also it's again very sad. The point that
stood at the article to me. Was was the CEO
saying that we've seen a slow and constant downward spiral
(06:29):
in this referee abuse because it's always been there, you know.
I remember going to Carlos Parkington Park in the eighties
and nineties and there are always people having to go
at the refs and grizzling afterwards.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
But it's got so much worse. There's so much. I
don't know.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
We live in a very angry world now. Maybe the
media is to blame a bit too, because we do
tend to focus on on so much on big mistakes
in NRAL and Test rugby and Super rugby. But yeah,
it's it's got out of control. There's so many of
these kind of stories and it's just something needs to
(07:02):
be done. And I think this is a fantastic step
to just make people realize we've got to change.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
And I had Corey Kennet, the chief executive of Harder
Fanua Carpany on earlier on in the week and what
I liked about at Levina good It wasn't just an
edict from above. They've talked to everybody. They've gone around
the referees, they've gone around the players, the clubs, they've
gone around the whole district, the whole province and says
what do you think, and they've all gone, yeah, this
is great. So it's not just one man or one board,
(07:33):
it's everybody buying into it.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
That's what I liked about it as well. I heard
that interview and I thought, you're really brave of Hoder
Fanua to come up and you know, kind of support
this concept. Let's remind everyone out there that the referees
are donating their skill and their times, right, so they're volunteers.
And there's been several surveys conducted by New Zealand Rugby
over the years that is showing, first of all, there's
(07:57):
a sixty percent increase and inappropriate behavior at least once
or twice a season for junior kids playing rugby. But
we're not just talking about here. Referees in general aren't
receiving any respect from the community. And when the parents
are going off at the referees on the sideline, what
is that telling to the kids? What are the kids
thinking there's a lack of respect for them. The referees
(08:20):
are leaving the game of rugby and if you don't
have a ref So yeah, I applaud it. I think
it's a great idea, but you know where it hits
people hardest is in the back pocket. That's where it
hits people hardest. So maybe you know there needs to
be club fines or maybe something put into place with
those that are mouthing off to the referee. We've all
had a little bit of an incident with a referee
in our time where you haven't agreed with the decision.
(08:42):
But if we take a step back and go they're
giving up their time, their skill, and their effort into
making this go ahead. Without the refs, you don't have
a game, and without the game, we don't have a sport.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
And on that we're going to come back shortly with
both of our crew, Levina Good and Michael Burgess. I
love the fact that Levina heard that interview. Either way,
you listen, Levina, thank you, love your work. He was great, Corey.
They really was up front like, hey, yeah, this is
what we're dealing with. Good on him. We're gonna carry
on talking about the big sports stories of the week.
Next Jason Pine, it's the on nine. Pine will join
(09:15):
us too. On News talks so much. It's twelve minutes
away from nine. Mike we're just living a good our panelist,
Gary Stead, it looks like it is all over for
arguably the most successful coach New Zealand cricket has ever employed.
(09:38):
Yours please, Michael.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Well, yeah, it's a good story here by Andrew Ordison,
and it is end of an era.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
You'd have to say he's overachieved because I remember when
he came in there wasn't too much excitement about him,
like had succeeded Mike Kessen had been extremely popular and
very successful, so it was a tough time to come in.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Gary Stead wasn't wasn't a b name I think for memories,
played five or six Tests, a lot of games for Canterbury.
But man, what he's done has been absolutely incredible. The
World Test Championship, the series victory in India, and let's
not forget to me international cricket. It's the toughest coaching
job there is.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
You know, unless you're unless you're single in twenty five,
which none of the coaches are obviously. You're away for
months and months on end, stuck in these hotel rooms
and all these kind of weird and wonderful cities, and
also cricket is a weird and wonderful game in terms
of what goes on behind the scenes. So he's been amazing.
(10:44):
A little bit surprising they don't want to continue with him.
I thought it would be a really good solution actually
to have him coaching test cricket and someone else coaching
the white ball cricket like a lot of other countries do.
But obviously not, so it's a bit of the same.
I just hope it's ended on his own terms.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Well it's not yet, it's been flagged. Put it that way, Levina.
What a great career. What I've loved about Gary Stead
is he's not apologetic about anything. And I'm taking some
time off tough, I'm doing this whatever. He's his own man,
and I really respect that he doesn't waiver with the
(11:23):
wins of opinion from the broadcasters and the public.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yeah. I've actually been thinking what I respect about Gary
Stad and it's not just the achievements that Michael just mentioned.
It's more the way that he led the team, or
has been leading the team when they're not as successful
as what we expect or anticipate. And he's just always
been one of those really cool, calm customers. He flies
under the radars sometimes and he's never claimed the success
(11:51):
as his own. He's always attributed that to the team
and I've really respected him for that, and I mean
what he's achieved, what Michael mentioned, has been absolutely outstanding
and has been our most successful coach since taking over
from Mike Hesson in twenty and eighty, which a lot
of people critique. Actually back then, no one expected what
he would do. But I wonder if he'll if he'll
(12:13):
look abroad, maybe following the footsteps of Fleming, McCullum, Vitry
and all the guys that are moving for overseas jobs
to try and make some coin, because to be honest,
that's where the money is. And you know, what he's
been doing is like a bastian of love for himself
for the country. And now I guess there's big decisions
to be made as to who will be the next
(12:34):
coach of the White All Red Ball, and I'm with Michael.
The Aussies have been doing that for ages. You've got
a red bull coach and a white ball coach and
that seems to be successful. It's an end of an
era once it goes ahead. If it goes ahead, and
I agree, I think he should be heralded for his achievements,
but also his attitude to the sport of cricket and
what he's done for cricket and New Zealand World Test Championship.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yes, but three Test victory over the Indian and we'll
finish things off nice and fast. Give it to us.
In a couple of sentences, Can the Warriors, Michael Bird
just bounce back against the Bunnies tomorrow afternoon at four.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
They don't have to.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
They don't have to because they've got the Kernella Sharks
the following week and then Penrith after the by so
we say the self and during a Warrior season. But yeah,
this is this is one of the games, one of
those games where it's marked turning point.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
They can bounce back and I think they will.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Yep, Levina, Yeah, I think they will. They have to.
I agree. It's that all within this Origin period and
I know that there's been plenty of chat about that
whether or not, you know, we should have an Origin
season maybe somewhere else, but at this stage that's not happening.
And the Warriors just need to realize that with Barnett back,
they're a better team and the pressure is on them
(13:46):
to win and that performance against the Raiders didn't impress
me at all. I think the Warriors know exactly what
they did wrong and they've got it against the Buddies.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Then Fisher Harris is back to leavena good Michael Burgess,
thank you so much for your time, hugely appreciated. Guys,
that is seven away from nine. Do anything else?
Speaker 1 (14:06):
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