The Swap

The Swap

Take a walk into the world of derivatives, as ISDA explores developments in financial markets, risk management, regulation and technology. Featuring interviews with top experts in trading, policy, risk and economics, The Swap asks why the issues that matter actually matter. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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October 1, 2026 • 43 mins

The ISDA Standard Initial Margin Model has proved to be one of the most consequential industry models ever developed. The Swap talks with two industry veterans involved in its development.

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As she nears the end of her term as chair of the European Securities and Markets Authority, Verena Ross joins The Swap to discuss progress in simplifying and reducing the burden of EU financial regulation, including transaction reporting.

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June 3, 2026 • 34 mins

This year’s ISDA Annual General Meeting featured discussions on the growth of digital assets and tokenized collateral, how AI is being used in financial services and changes to the regulatory framework. The Swap looks back at the conversations.

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May 11, 2026 • 26 mins

As the Clarity Act works its way through Congress, US regulators are evolving their approach to digital assets. SEC commissioner Hester Peirce joins The Swap to talk about crypto regulation, Treasury clearing and artificial intelligence.

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April 24, 2026 • 36 mins

With less than nine months to go until the first US Treasury clearing mandates come into force, BlackRock’s Tyler Wellensiek and BNY’s Nate Wuerffel discuss industry progress.

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February 23, 2026 • 47 mins

Tokenization has the potential to bring much-needed efficiency and flexibility to collateral management. Sandy Kaul from Franklin Templeton and the DTCC’s Joseph Spiro talk about the opportunities and the path to broader adoption.

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January 28, 2026 • 26 mins

ISDA’s chair Amy Hong sets out priorities for the association in 2026 and the important role that technologies like tokenization and artificial intelligence will play in modernizing derivatives markets.

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January 12, 2026 • 44 mins

Global policymakers are focused on a wide-ranging set of issues, including NBFI and the rapid development of advanced technologies. IOSCO secretary general Rodrigo Buenaventura unpacks the regulatory agenda.

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October 13, 2025 • 35 mins

The pace of change in derivatives markets shows no sign of letting up, with rapid evolution across trading, regulation and technology. Industry veteran Don Wilson, founder of trading firm DRW, talks to The Swap about some of the biggest trends.

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September 2, 2025 • 36 mins

Markets have been volatile so far this year, but what has this meant for market liquidity? The Swap talks to Chris Edmonds from Intercontinental Exchange on trading activity and the market, economic and geopolitical outlook.

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April 23, 2025 • 32 mins

A new report from ISDA shows that companies all over the world use derivatives to alleviate uncertainty, transfer risk and enhance profitability. ISDA discusses the findings with BCG’s Roy Choudhury.

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March 18, 2025 • 21 mins

The start of ISDA’s 40th anniversary coincided with the appointment of a new ISDA chair, Jeroen Krens. In this episode, we hear about his plans for the association and main strategic priorities.

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January 31, 2025 • 33 mins

To mark ISDA’s 40th anniversary, The Swap meets two pioneers of the derivatives market, Tom Jasper and Jeffrey Golden, to discuss the emergence of derivatives and the importance of standards

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December 17, 2024 • 35 mins

In this review of the year, ISDA CEO Scott O’Malia and Chairman Eric Litvack look back at the derivatives market and regulatory issues dominating 2024, including Basel III, Treasury clearing and non-bank financial intermediation.


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December 11, 2024 • 30 mins

Voluntary carbon markets could play an important role in the shift to net zero but what’s needed to build liquidity and ensure transparency in this market? ISDA CEO Scott O’Malia talks to Rubicon Carbon’s Tom Montag.

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October 17, 2024 • 28 mins

As regulators look to tackle perceived risks posed by non-bank financial intermediation, Bruce Tuckman from the Stern School of Business gives his views on what’s driving these concerns and how they might be resolved.


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With just weeks to go until the US election, ISDA talks to Rhod Shaw from government affairs consulting firm Alpine Group about the key policy issues and the implications for the financial sector.

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September 3, 2024 • 47 mins

Clearing of derivatives has been a key regulatory objective since the 2008 financial crisis, but proposed changes to US capital rules would make clearing much more expensive. Scott O’Malia discusses the implications with LSEG’s Daniel Maguire.

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July 25, 2024 • 38 mins

Geopolitical risk has become a focus for financial institutions, with the potential to cause extreme volatility in financial markets. How are banks thinking about this? Scott O’Malia talks to Citi’s Brent McIntosh.

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June 3, 2024 • 35 mins

A new paper from ISDA Future Leaders in Derivatives explores the potential for generative artificial intelligence in the derivatives market. Scott O’Malia talks to IFLD participants Tom Reynolds and Katherine Arden about the paper’s findings and recommendations.

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