That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun! Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework! That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

Episodes

December 16, 2025 152 mins

In this week’s episode, Kara and Liza tackle the episode “Pop” (Season 12, Episode 11), discuss the "Fight Club" phenomenon caused by the book and movie, and interview the legendary Audrie Neenan.

SOURCES:
The New Yorker
HuffPost
ABC News
New York Post
Courthouse News Service
Justia U.S. Law
Los Angeles Times
Duluth News Tribune

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This week, Liza and Kara cover the episode, “Misleader” (Season 1, Episode 17), and discuss the scandalous George Roche III affair at Hillsdale College.

SOURCES:
Vanity Fair
The New York Times
Wikipedia - George Roche III
Wikipedia - Hillsdale College
National Review

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Toys For Tots

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December 2, 2025 158 mins

Today, Kara and Liza discuss the SVU episode “They'd Already Disappeared” (Season 23, Episode 7). They investigate multiple cases, including the infamous Anatoly Moskvin and his 29 mummified human dolls. And to cleanse the palate, they interview the incredibly talented Blake DeLong.

SOURCES:
Texas Department of Public Safety
FBI.gov
The Cut
BBC
The Sun
The New York Times
Wikipedia - Harrison Graham<...

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November 25, 2025 103 mins

This week, Liza and Kara recap the wild episode,“Blast” (Season 7, Episode 13), and discuss two crimes - the horrific Marion Parker case and the insane North Hollywood shootout.

SOURCES:
Wikipedia - Murder of Marion Parker
Chattanooga Daily Times
Visalia Times-Delta
Albany Democrat-Herald
Butterfly in the Rain
Wikipedia - North Hollywood shootout
NBC Los Angeles
Los Angeles Times

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November 18, 2025 135 mins

In this week’s episode, Kara and Liza tackle “Desperate” (Season 4, Episode 18), discuss the fascinating life of activist Faye Yager, and interview the iconic Rob Estes (Melrose Place).

SOURCES:
NYCLU
FBI.gov 1
FBI.gov 2
Florida Department of Law Enforcement
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
The New York Times 3
The New York Times 4
The New York Times 5
The New York Times 6

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November 11, 2025 118 mins

This week, Liza and Kara cover the episode,“Genes” (Season 18, Episode 13), discuss the blackout murders perpetrated by Paul Cox, and interview the delightful Michael Torpey.

SOURCES:
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
The New York Times 3
Encyclopedia.com
The Guardian
New York Daily News
COX v. MILLER (2002)

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Is Sexual Offending Genetic? By Will Davies

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November 4, 2025 126 mins

Today, Kara and Liza discuss the early SVU episode “Russian Love Poem” (Season 1, Episode 12) and dissect the vicious bludgeoning of the Atlanta millionaire Lance Herndon. 

SOURCES:
NBC News
NBC
United Press International
Orlando Sentinel
BET
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Tampa Bay Times
NPR
Publishers Weekly
Baugh V. State (2003)
Court TV
Murderpedia

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October 28, 2025 126 mins

This week, Liza and Kara recap “Rape Interrupted” (Season 18, Episode 5), discuss the horrific Brock Turner case, and interview the wonderful Anna Osceola.

SOURCES:
The Washington Post
Associated Press
Stanford Magazine
CNN
Vox
The New Yorker
The Guardian
Wikipedia - People v. Turner
Buzzfeed News
Huffpost

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Know My Name: A Memoir
Magnolia Wu Unfolds It All

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October 21, 2025 140 mins

In this week’s episode, Kara and Liza tackle “Probability of Doom” (Season 25, Episode 7), discuss the sympathetic crimes of Brigitte Harris, and interview the delightful Sarah Lynn Marion.

SOURCES:
People
NBC News
Wikipedia - Sheila LaBarre
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
Staten Island Advance
New York Magazine 1
New York Magazine 2

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Rising Ground

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October 14, 2025 137 mins

This week, Kara and Liza cover a two-part episode,“Closure” (Part I & II) (Season 1, Episode 10 & Season 2, Episode 3), and discuss the crimes of two different horrific rapists - Isaac Jones (a.k.a. "The Bronx Rapist") and Ronnie Shelton (a.k.a. "The West Side Rapist").

SOURCES:
United Press International
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
New York Daily News
New York Post 1
New York Pos...

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October 7, 2025 122 mins

Today, Liza and Kara discuss the episode “Rotten” (Season 4, Episode 13), analyze the grisly crimes of serial killer Manuel Pardo, and interview the legendary Terry Serpico.

SOURCES:
New York Daily News 1
New York Daily News 2
Wikipedia - Assault of Abner Louima
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
CNN
NBC News
Wikipedia - Manuel Pardo (serial killer)
Ask Men
The Huffington Post

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September 30, 2025 108 mins

This week, Liza and Kara recap “Prima Nocta” (Season 25, Episode 11), discuss the case involving Jennifer Wilbanks (a.k.a. "The Runaway Bride"), and interview the lovely Elizabeth Paige.

SOURCES:
People
NBC News
CBS News
Wikipedia - Runaway bride case

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Black and Missing Foundation

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September 23, 2025 127 mins

In this week’s episode, Kara and Liza tackle “All Pain Is One Malady” (Season 24, Episode 22), discuss the wild Michelle Hadley “Rape Fantasy” case, and interview the wonderful Kadia Saraf (Dexter: Resurrection).

SOURCES:
Manhattan DA
NBC News 1
NBC News 2
United States Attorney’s Office: Eastern District of California
U.S. Department of Justice Office of the Inspector General

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September 16, 2025 104 mins

This week, Kara and Liza cover the SVU episode “Wannabe” (Season 11, Episode 23) and discuss the insane behavior of fake cop Vincent Richardson. 

SOURCES:
CBS News 1
CBS News 2
CBS News 3
WTTW
Fox 32 Chicago
WGN TV
Chicago Tribune
ENews Park Forest

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Fathers’ UpLift

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September 9, 2025 89 mins

Today, Kara and Liza discuss the episode “Dare” (Season 19, Episode 16), the tragic death of former SVU actor Isabella Grasso, and the heinous details of Dr. Michael Mastromarino’s human tissue-stealing scheme.

SOURCES:
ABC7 New York
Newsday
Patch
NPR

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OrganDonor.gov

Next week’s episode will be “Wannabe” (Season 11, Episode 23). 

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September 2, 2025 116 mins

This week, Kara and Liza recap “In Loco Parentis” (Season 19, Episode 15), discuss the Nikki Yovino case, and interview the actress Ryann Shane (Banshee, Lights Out).

SOURCES:
6ABC
ABC7 New York
AP News
The Washington Times
BET
News Channel 9
Justia
State of Connecticut Judicial Branch

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Campus Sexual Violence Resource List

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August 26, 2025 133 mins

In this week’s episode, Liza and Kara tackle “Conned” (Season 11, Episode 19), discuss the outrageous crimes of con artist Christian Karl Gerhartsreiter, and interview the fabulous Ally Walker.

SOURCES:
Vanity Fair
CNN 1
CNN 2
ABC News
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
Wikipedia - Christian Gerhartsreiter
The Boston Globe
Los Angeles Times
Empowerment Ave.
People
Wikiped...

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August 19, 2025 130 mins

This week, Kara and Liza cover the SVU episode “Street Revenge” (Season 13, Episode 19), discuss the Rain City Superhero Movement, and interview the wonderful Michael Rispoli.

SOURCES:
The Week
KUOW
RLSH Wiki
Slate
Wikipedia - SlutWalk
SlutWalk Peoria
The Escapist
The Fall of Phoenix Jones
CNN

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Responding to the Incel Ideology

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August 12, 2025 124 mins

Today, Liza and Kara discuss the episode “Shock Collar” (Season 26, Episode 20), investigate the disturbing case involving the YouTube channel FamilyOFive, and interview the delightful JJ Pyle. 

SOURCES:
Fox 29
People 1
People 2
Daily Voice
New York Magazine
Wikipedia - DaddyOFive
WTOP News
Starcasm
OfficialFamilyOFive.com

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American Humane Society

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August 5, 2025 144 mins

This week, Liza and Kara recap the wild episode “Wet” (Season 12, Episode 5), discuss the 1986 "Jack the Snipper" case in Los Angeles, and interview the magnificent David Krumholtz.

SOURCES:
Los Angeles Times
United Press International 1
United Press International 2
SFGATE
Wikipedia - Cordelia Botkin
Kings River Life Magazine

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Teacher Wishlists

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