That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast
Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun! Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework! That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
Episodes
Today, Liza and Kara discuss the SVU episode “Venom” (Season 7, Episode 18), investigate the historic Raymond Levi Cobb case, and chat with the legendary Joe Grifasi.
SOURCES:
Los Angeles Times
Office of the Solicitor General - U.S. Department of Justice
Vanishing Act: The Hunt for Margaret and Cory Ray
Wikipedia - Texas v. Cobb
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DSA-LA Voter Guide
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This week, Kara and Liza recap the episode “Bound” (Season 5, Episode 23) and discuss two different murderers - Dorothea Puente (a.k.a. "The Death House Landlady") and Charles Cullen (a.k.a. "The Killer Nurse")
SOURCES:
World’s Most Evil Killers
CNN
The New York Times
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
Capturing the Killer Nurse
Next week’s episode will be “Venom" (Season 7, Episode 18).
Today, Liza and Kara tackle the episode “Constricted” (Season 26, Episode 4) and the real-life issue of increasing numbers of youth sexual non-fatal (and fatal) strangulation cases. Plus, they have a lovely chat with the amazing Zak Orth.
SOURCES:
BBC 1
BBC 2
Psychology Today 1
Psychology Today 2
News Medical
Alliance for HOPE International
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
How to talk to kids about porn
Ne...
This week, Liza and Kara break down the SVU episode, “Mea Culpa” (Season 20, Episode 9) and discuss the infamous murder of Stanford White by Harry Kendall Thaw following the rape of Evelyn Nesbit. Plus, they interview the wonderful George Newbern.
SOURCES:
BBC
The New York Times
Wikipedia - Evelyn Nesbit
Library of Congress
Avenue Magazine
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The Tragic Life of Evelyn Nesbi...
Today, Kara and Liza discuss the SVU episode “Recall” (Season 8, Episode 3) and investigate the horrific crimes and lack of justice involved with the case of serial rapist Melvin Carter (a.k.a. "The College Terrace Rapist").
SOURCES:
CNN
Seattle Post-Intelligencer
Orlando Sentinel
WIS News 10
The Seattle Times
Long Beach Press-Telegram
The Mercury News
The New York Times
SFGATE
13WHAM ABC R...
This week, Liza and Kara recap the episode “Redemption in Her Corner” (Season 21, Episode 13) and discuss the case involving Jamill Jones fatally one-punching Sandor Szabo.
SOURCES:
The New York State Senate 1
The New York State Senate 2
True Crime News
PIX11 News
ESPN
People
The News & Observer
Los Angeles Times
The New York Times
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
YWCA USA
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Today, Kara and Liza tackle the episode “Deadly Ambition” (Season 14, Episode 15) and the confounding Tracy Roberson case. Plus, they have a lovely chat with the iconic Carolyn McCormick.
SOURCES:
NBC News
ABC News
ABC7 Amarillo
Court Of Appeals Second District Of Texas Fort Worth
Fort Worth Star-Telegram
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
The Mental Health Coalition
Next week’s episode will be “Red...
This week, Liza and Kara break down the SVU episode, “Father Dearest” (Season 13, Episode 20) and discuss the real-life story of prolific sperm donor Ben Seisler. Plus, they interview the delightful Eric Close.
SOURCES:
Daily Mail
Salon
Wikipedia - Genetic sexual attraction
Wikipedia - Westermarck effect
ABC7
Time
Center for Genetics and Society
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
Families Rising
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Today, Kara and Liza discuss the hockey-related episode “Great Expectations” (Season 18, Episode 11) and investigate the case of Thomas Junta murdering another hockey Dad at a children’s pickup game. Plus, they chat with the wonderful Lincoln Melcher.
SOURCES:
The New York Times
CNN
NBC Sports
Telegram & Gazette
CBS News
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
Hockey Diversity Alliance
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This week, Liza and Kara recap the episode “Reasonable Doubt” (Season 15, Episode 22) and discuss the predatory history of the infamous film director Woody Allen. Plus, they have a wonderful conversation with the magnificent Bradley Whitford.
SOURCES:
Wikipedia - Woody Allen sexual abuse allegation
Vanity Fair 1
Vanity Fair 2
Vanity Fair 3
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
mosesfarrow.blogsp...
Today, Kara and Liza tackle the episode “Hothouse” (Season 10, Episode 12) and the disturbing real-life murder of teenager Kirsten Costas. Plus, they have a lovely chat with the wonderful Aya Cash (The Boys, You're the Worst).
SOURCES:
Los Angeles Times
The New York Times
Time
United Press International
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
SAMHSA’s National Helpline
Next week’s episode will be “Rea...
This week, Liza and Kara go way back to season one to cover the episode, “Sophomore Jinx” (Season 1, Episode 6). They also discuss the date rape case of Katie Koestner and her ongoing legacy. Plus, they interview the talented Lothaire Bluteau.
SOURCES:
Wikipedia - Murder of Jeanne Clery
Wikipedia - Katie Koestner
Time 1
Time 2
katiekoestner.com
The Flat Hat
BBC
The Daily Item
Today, Kara and Liza discuss the episode “Cold” (Season 9, Episode 19) and investigate the case of Gerard Schaefer a.k.a. "The Killer Cop." Plus, they chat with the prolific writer of this very SVU episode, the amazing Judith McCreary.
SOURCES:
ABC 13
The New York Times
Tampa Bay Times
Vidocq Society
Police1
CBS News
MinnPost
KIRO 7
Medium
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
Vidocq Society
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In this episode, Liza and Kara recap “Pursuit” (Season 12, Episode 17). Plus, they discuss the phenomenon of To Catch a Predator and the prolific serial killer Gary Ridgway a.k.a. "The Green River Killer."
SOURCES:
Wikipedia - To Catch a Predator
Wikipedia - Gary Ridgway
ABC News
The Washington Post
all that’s interesting
The New York Times
People
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
Predators (2025)
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Today, Kara and Liza tackle the episode “Let Me Bring Pardon” (Season 26, Episode 16). Plus, they discuss the disgusting crimes perpetrated by Nathan Sutherland at the Hacienda HealthCare facility.
SOURCES:
Vice
NBC News
ABC World News
The Arizona Republic
The Independent
Slate
Wikipedia - Hacienda HealthCare sexual abuse case
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
How Sexual Assault First Aid Revolutionizes ...
This week, Kara and Liza cover the episode,“Responsible” (Season 8, Episode 18), discuss the case of sexual predator and former teacher Debra Lafave, and interview the wonderful Leven Rambin.
SOURCES:
ABC News
CNN
The Guardian
The Today Show
NBC News
Bradenton Herald
People 1
People 2
Tampa Bay Times
WLTX19
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
FindTreatment.gov
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Today, Kara and Liza discuss the episode “Dance, Lies and Videotape” (Season 21, Episode 17). Plus, they investigate the Alexandra Waterbury case involving ballet and the non-consensual sharing of explicit images.
SOURCES:
BBC
ABC7NY
New York Post 1
New York Post 2
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
The New York Times 3
The New York Times 4
The New York Times 5
In this episode, Liza and Kara recap the episode, “Spooked” (Season 11, Episode 6), discuss the tragic Rachel Hoffman case, and interview the fantastic Vincent Spano.
SOURCES:
Wikipedia - Murder of Rachel Hoffman
The New Yorker
ABC News
Tallahassee Democrat
Wikipedia - Operation Mongoose
Wikipedia - Operation Northwoods
Wikipedia - Los Zetas
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
The Throwaways by Sarah Still...
Today, Kara and Liza tackle the episode “Ripped” (Season 7, Episode 4). Plus, they discuss the tragic, steroids-related suicide of teenager Taylor Hooton.
SOURCES:
The New York Times
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
Performance-enhancing drugs: Know the risks
Next week’s episode will be “Spooked” (Season 11, Episode 6).
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This week, Liza and Kara cover the episode,“Rorschach” (Season 26, Episode 6), discuss the horrific murder of Gabby Petito, and interview the delightful Jama Williamson.
SOURCES:
Wikipedia - Killing of Gabby Petito
American Murder: Gabby Petito
Forbes
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
Gabby Petito Foundation
Next week’s episode will be “Ripped” (Seaso...
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