Adam Hardage and JT discuss the suspect arrested in DC pipe bomb case

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Everybody. Adam Hart It is joining US now air Force veteran,

(00:02):
also a former CIA ops officer on a crazy case
concerning the January sixth pipe bomber. Apparently they cleared this
female suspect with a puppy video, then they quietly arrest
the male suspect in this case. Adam, welcome in, Thanks
for being here.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Thanks good to be back here. Te appreciate you having me.
And as usual, who knows which way is up with DC?

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yeah? Last month, I mean, it's gotten national intention about
all this whole thing here. So what's this puppy video
all about?

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Here? You beats me? Okay, So first it takes five
years to figure out that you know that we've finally
got a suspect. It's a female Capital police officer who
worked for the CIA. Now this week it's no, no, no, no,
it was a white guy. Oh wait, hold on, nope,

(00:51):
it's a black guy. And you know, but we're pretty
sure of that now. So I am being driven crazy
by the world of deceit and lives and manipulation that
we live in. It seems like it's every day it
gets harder and harder to get to the bottom of

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just about anything. I mean, whether you're talking to Charlie
Kirk assassination too. I mean, you know, just the j
six pipe Armber story. It just goes on and on
and on. It just feels like we've entered this phase
where we're in this world where the lives and the
defeat and manipulation just don't ever stop.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Well, look what's going on with this Luigi Mangioni case,
the guy that's accused of killing the CEO of United Healthcare,
and a lot of people are pushing back against it, saying, no,
they just grab somebody. He's not the real guy. This
was This is a whole different story than you know,
the government had it done or so and so group
had it done, and this guy's just going to have
to be the scapegoat and we're going to put it
all on him. And you know, all of a sudden,

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here comes videos. See we've even got the video here.
How do you even know that the videos are real anymore?
AI is so getting so much better every day, it
seems in the technolog you with it. The days of
seeing you know, seven fingers on somebody's hand in a
video and going not clearly AI. Now it's it's so clean.
It looks like you know, high definition television.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, with you know, I think it's a Google. It's
Nano Banana. With the with the release of Nano Banana,
a new ai VO software. I mean, the ability to
tell with the plain human eye, you know, what's real
and what's not that's gone. I mean it is crazy
how how good that that technology has become, and how

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disruptive that is to then day in and day out reality.
And I mean that's literally what I talk about. I
even I wrote the book, you know, the Alphum Blueprint,
to have these conversations to prepare the next generation for
the AI future. But I didn't even fully get it,
I guess when I wrote the book, because now it's
it's hard to fathom how fast we have gone from

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reality to complete and utter distrust of everything in our
institutions and what we see and what we hear. So
I mean, I'm pretty much at the mindset and now
at this point that if it's not in front of
me and I can't touch it, you know, put a
physical figure on it, or if I can't talk to
it in person, then I can't really fully believe anything

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that anybody's telling me.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
You know, if that's the case for you, then what's
a jury to believe when you finally get the case
to court and you're getting both sets of attorneys up there.
I mean, I would think defense attorneys they're all looking
their chops on this type of stuff that's going on.
It creates a mad mess out there and opens the
door from more conspiracy theories because of what's a you know,

(03:38):
generated with these movies and clips and whatnot. So I
don't know if we got the right guy on the
J six thing. You know, I'm not sure that what's
going on with this Luigian Manngione case is you know,
real or not. I Mean, it seems they've released some
more evidence and we'll talk more about that coming up
in the show a little bit after eight o'clock this morning.
But I just don't know what to believe anymore. And

(04:01):
I'm not one to jump down conspiracy theories a lot,
you know, but when you throw a shade or you know,
just a reasonable doubt in a court case of a
conspiracy theory that could have some legs to it based
on what the AI video is perpetuating, then all of
a sudden, you know, where does this take our justice system.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Do you think, Yeah, well, I mean you nailed it
right there too, because now it's like, well, wait, we
have witnesses that say you were at the scene.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
In fact, here's a video of what appears to be
you leaving the bank after you robbed it. You're like, no, no, no, no, no,
I was never there that day. In fact, here's a
video of me that day sitting on my couch with
my kids watching TV. You know, so, which one is
which one is true?

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Which one is real? Right?

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Right?

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah? I mean so do we go back to the
I mean, I guess at some point you just kind
of have to throw out the technology and go back
to you know, he said, she said, which then becomes
a hearsay kind of issue. But you know, I have
a witness that who was there. But if you don't
have you know, this goes actually kind of back to
intelligence operations. You know when I was when I was
with the agency and I was a my job was

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to recruit foreign spise to to you know, work on
behalf of the US government. And you know, if they
didn't have direct first hand access to information, I couldn't
trust it.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah, one hundred percent, one hundred percent. Well, listen. I
really appreciate your time this morning, Adam. Crazy where we're
at with all this