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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Alabama's Morning News. I'm JT and joining us now to
talk about what's happening inside the Democratic Party, which is
in just shambles. Doctor Nathaniel Cogley, Associate Professor of Political Science.
Welcome in, doctor, glad to have you back.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Good morning, JT. Never too early to talk twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Uh right, exactly, and it's going to be here before
you know it. My gosh, the midterms are next week,
aren't they. Let's start with David Hogg, this guy that
if you'll recall David, he was heavily involved in what
took place with the shootings in the school. He is
now entrenched in the Democratic Party and is really making
(00:37):
some moves to kind of wake and shake everybody up
inside this party by donating what was on one hundred
thousand dollars not to the DNC but to the DCC,
which is Democrats are kind of splitting the way here
reminds me of what's happening with the United Methodist Church
in Splitsville. Here we go. Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee is
(00:59):
where he sent his check to try and get things
rolling once Sakeen jeffries to be the leader in the
House when they take over in the midterms, and what's
going on here. I mean, this can't bid well for
the party long term.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Well, I think he's going to try to use some
money to target some safe Democratic seats, but to pick
a younger people in the Democratic primary. There is kind
of been a creeping age in the Congress. The Congress
keeps getting older and older every year, and you do
have some members on both sides of the aisle there
are now in their eighties and kind of sitting on
these seats for a long time. So he's going to
(01:34):
try to have some allies and push but I think
they're going to target safe Democratic seats. You know where
the action is going to be in the primary.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Let's talk about the party in general as a whole.
Right now, with the country bringing in Donald Trump and
voting overwhelming the popular vote, but also all the battleground states,
this country was tired of the wave of wokeness for
the last four years and made it clear. Does it
seem to you that the Democrats, the true blue are
still doubling and tripling down on where their policies are
(02:03):
and where they lean.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah, we haven't really seen. We see like really low
favorability ratings for the Democratic Party right now, and a
lot of their candidates have tied themselves to very far
left position. Certainly Kamala Harris had that weighing against her
in the twenty twenty four run And it's just hard
to see, you know, Democrats are going to have a nominee,
(02:26):
of course, but it's kind of hard to vision who
is in the great position to step up and fill
that role given that a lot of them I've taken
on some positions that just aren't very popular, you know
with the public, something like men and women's sports. I mean,
you know, can someone get that right please? You know, So,
if you're going to appeal to the American voter, you know,
(02:48):
you have to take more moderate positions, and there has
been a lot of them positioning themselves to the left
when that was kind of what was in brand in
the party for many years.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Well, I have to think that even Democratic candidates and
people that serve in the Democratic Party are not stupid.
They've got to be aware of what the American people
are all about and where they stand on their issues.
When it comes to the border, when it comes to illegals,
(03:19):
when it comes to crime, when it comes to men
playing in women's sports. I mean, it's like there's no
self awareness that they're continuing to double down on what
lost them the election here. Why are they not meeting
the majority of the people in this country on common
ground issues, it's opposed to staying strictly doubling down on
(03:41):
their far left values.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Well, I would say they haven't had a healthy presidential
primary in a long time. You know, they didn't have
competition and come in Biden kind of shut down the field,
and then Kamala Harris didn't win her primary. So we
should expect going into twenty twenty eight a very lively
primary for them. We've seen in the past up to
(04:04):
twenty candidates. You know, they've got to split them on
the debate stage ten at a time, and if you
actually get a robust field, we're actually that you know,
they have to actually appeal to Democratic voters. You may
have some of the better candidates with the better ideas
went out and they just haven't done that in a
long time. It's been a very controlled operation for a
few years.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Do you see anybody in the Democratic Party maybe we
might be missing at this point. Obviously, the big names
that stick out AOC ended up at the top of
a poll recently as the one to be the predecessor
in the party, Governor Gavin Newsom from California. Obviously, with
all that hair jelly, he's not spending that kind of
money not to run for president. So I mean, is
(04:45):
there anybody that is a bit more moderate in the
Democratic Party that may you know, rear their head and
come through.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, I'm trying to find someone like that. Rocana is
a House rep in the California seventeenth district. So he's
making some noise right now because he's targeting jd. Vance
kind of on an assumption that the whoever is going
to lead the charge in twenty twenty eight, and he's
a target Vance who he's assuming would be leading the
Republican side. So he's made some waves, but it's really
(05:16):
hard to go from the House to the presidency. Only
James Garfield did that in eighteen eighty, so I wouldn't
really bet money on him. When you look at the
betting nods for twenty twenty eight, the top Democrat to
stick out is still Gavin Newsom, governor of California, and
Governor Shapiro of Pennsylvania is next in line, Pete Bootagege
actually won Iowa and New Hampshire, and then you know,
(05:38):
served as a Secretary of Transportation. So these are some
of the big names. None of them have me very convinced.
But I'm just predicting a very large field, and you're right,
it could be someone we're not really thinking about. We
tend to think about governors and senators, but you know,
it could be you know some you know Trump. Trump
(05:58):
came from the business world than kind of shocked the
system back there in twenty sixteen, and there's there's plenty
of you rich, celebrity type Democrats that maybe could try
to shock the system in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Lord help us if Stephen A. Speck from ESPN consitted
this race. But hey, where your things have happened? All right, doctor,
thank you, buddy. I appreciate you, Doctor Nathaniel Cogley. Democrats
got some work to do.
Alabama's Morning News. I'm JT and joining us now to
talk about what's happening inside the Democratic Party, which is
in just shambles. Doctor Nathaniel Cogley, Associate Professor of Political Science.
Welcome in, doctor, glad to have you back.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Good morning, JT. Never too early to talk twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Uh right, exactly, and it's going to be here before
you know it. My gosh, the midterms are next week,
aren't they. Let's start with David Hogg, this guy that
if you'll recall David, he was heavily involved in what
took place with the shootings in the school. He is
now entrenched in the Democratic Party and is really making
(00:37):
some moves to kind of wake and shake everybody up
inside this party by donating what was on one hundred
thousand dollars not to the DNC but to the DCC,
which is Democrats are kind of splitting the way here
reminds me of what's happening with the United Methodist Church
in Splitsville. Here we go. Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee is
(00:59):
where he sent his check to try and get things
rolling once Sakeen jeffries to be the leader in the
House when they take over in the midterms, and what's
going on here. I mean, this can't bid well for
the party long term.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Well, I think he's going to try to use some
money to target some safe Democratic seats, but to pick
a younger people in the Democratic primary. There is kind
of been a creeping age in the Congress. The Congress
keeps getting older and older every year, and you do
have some members on both sides of the aisle there
are now in their eighties and kind of sitting on
these seats for a long time. So he's going to
(01:34):
try to have some allies and push but I think
they're going to target safe Democratic seats. You know where
the action is going to be in the primary.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Let's talk about the party in general as a whole.
Right now, with the country bringing in Donald Trump and
voting overwhelming the popular vote, but also all the battleground states,
this country was tired of the wave of wokeness for
the last four years and made it clear. Does it
seem to you that the Democrats, the true blue are
still doubling and tripling down on where their policies are
(02:03):
and where they lean.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah, we haven't really seen. We see like really low
favorability ratings for the Democratic Party right now, and a
lot of their candidates have tied themselves to very far
left position. Certainly Kamala Harris had that weighing against her
in the twenty twenty four run And it's just hard
to see, you know, Democrats are going to have a nominee,
(02:26):
of course, but it's kind of hard to vision who
is in the great position to step up and fill
that role given that a lot of them I've taken
on some positions that just aren't very popular, you know
with the public, something like men and women's sports. I mean,
you know, can someone get that right please? You know, So,
if you're going to appeal to the American voter, you know,
(02:48):
you have to take more moderate positions, and there has
been a lot of them positioning themselves to the left
when that was kind of what was in brand in
the party for many years.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Well, I have to think that even Democratic candidates and
people that serve in the Democratic Party are not stupid.
They've got to be aware of what the American people
are all about and where they stand on their issues.
When it comes to the border, when it comes to illegals,
(03:19):
when it comes to crime, when it comes to men
playing in women's sports. I mean, it's like there's no
self awareness that they're continuing to double down on what
lost them the election here. Why are they not meeting
the majority of the people in this country on common
ground issues, it's opposed to staying strictly doubling down on
(03:41):
their far left values.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Well, I would say they haven't had a healthy presidential
primary in a long time. You know, they didn't have
competition and come in Biden kind of shut down the field,
and then Kamala Harris didn't win her primary. So we
should expect going into twenty twenty eight a very lively
primary for them. We've seen in the past up to
(04:04):
twenty candidates. You know, they've got to split them on
the debate stage ten at a time, and if you
actually get a robust field, we're actually that you know,
they have to actually appeal to Democratic voters. You may
have some of the better candidates with the better ideas
went out and they just haven't done that in a
long time. It's been a very controlled operation for a
few years.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Do you see anybody in the Democratic Party maybe we
might be missing at this point. Obviously, the big names
that stick out AOC ended up at the top of
a poll recently as the one to be the predecessor
in the party, Governor Gavin Newsom from California. Obviously, with
all that hair jelly, he's not spending that kind of
money not to run for president. So I mean, is
(04:45):
there anybody that is a bit more moderate in the
Democratic Party that may you know, rear their head and
come through.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, I'm trying to find someone like that. Rocana is
a House rep in the California seventeenth district. So he's
making some noise right now because he's targeting jd. Vance
kind of on an assumption that the whoever is going
to lead the charge in twenty twenty eight, and he's
a target Vance who he's assuming would be leading the
Republican side. So he's made some waves, but it's really
(05:16):
hard to go from the House to the presidency. Only
James Garfield did that in eighteen eighty, so I wouldn't
really bet money on him. When you look at the
betting nods for twenty twenty eight, the top Democrat to
stick out is still Gavin Newsom, governor of California, and
Governor Shapiro of Pennsylvania is next in line, Pete Bootagege
actually won Iowa and New Hampshire, and then you know,
(05:38):
served as a Secretary of Transportation. So these are some
of the big names. None of them have me very convinced.
But I'm just predicting a very large field, and you're right,
it could be someone we're not really thinking about. We
tend to think about governors and senators, but you know,
it could be you know some you know Trump. Trump
(05:58):
came from the business world than kind of shocked the
system back there in twenty sixteen, and there's there's plenty
of you rich, celebrity type Democrats that maybe could try
to shock the system in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Lord help us if Stephen A. Speck from ESPN consitted
this race. But hey, where your things have happened? All right, doctor,
thank you, buddy. I appreciate you, Doctor Nathaniel Cogley. Democrats
got some work to do.
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