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October 17, 2024 8 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It seems that there's voter bases that are shifting away
from typical Democrat bases that they are on. For instance,
Hispanics and specifically black males are shifting away and they're
not buying the Democratic rhetoric that has been so disappointing
for so many years on this and Don Lemon, you know,

(00:20):
Don Lemon is right the host of the Don Lemon
Show over there on CNN. He brought it up the
other day and said, you know what, it's happening right
before our very eyes.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
I told a campaign I did not hear from them.
I mean, who am I for them to get back
to me? But there's a problem. I went up to
people just doing man on the street and so, who
are you going to vote for? Black men? And time
after time after time they said, I'm voting for Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
There you go. I mean, I really do believe that
the policies and substance are mattering more and more, especially
in these groups that you know, traditionally lean Democrat. Joining
us now to talk a little bit more about this
program manager at Amazon. Also, Young Voices contributor Daniel Quarkeran
is here. Daniel, welcome in, Thanks for being here.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Thank you so much for having me. It's an absolute
pleasure to be here. And just a quick programming note
like this endeavor of mind speaking about these issues is
completely divorced from my work at Amazon, so complete separation
of the two. Always they could clarify that for the audience.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yeah, that's fine. I'm not looking for an you know,
Amazon Prime deal from you or anything, but if you
got any tips, I'm open to the let's talk about
these men's issues that are happening right now. And you
just heard the clip from CNN's Black Gentleman Don Lemon
hosting a show over there, seeing it right before his

(01:39):
very own eyes when he goes out and talks to people.
I think we're seeing it more and more on you know,
social media, on podcasting. This issue is alive and well
and I think could change the election. Your thoughts on
what you're seeing.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
I think it could if it can were to seize
upon the opportunity. As you brought up quite accurately that
Harris has a problem, and not just Harris, it's the
Democrat Party overall has been facing a growing problem with
specific demographics such as black men and Hispanic men as well.

(02:12):
And I think just overall, men are shifting away from
the Democrat Party and you see this in key swing
states like Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania where Trump is up with men.
The issue is, though men in recent elections turn out
at lower voting rates. So it's up to the canny's
to really seize upon the opportunity to galvanize a larger

(02:34):
male populace to turn out in this election and sway
that this election in that county favor by doing so.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
You look at the cultural factors out there right now,
and a lot of it is on female you know,
the abortion discussion, the men in sports issues, women in
general seem to be getting more attention as far as
trying to get women voters, and where people stand on
transgender cultural factors to the neglect of men's issues are

(03:03):
are the men on the back burners first, or you know,
their concerns, it's.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Simply not being acknowledged. And a lot of these issues
you can frame them in terms of say men's issues
when it comes to the workforce, or more likely to
die from suicide or be incarcerated, or you know, drug overdoses.
But the solutions for them will help everyone because when

(03:28):
men are doing well, women are doing well, and vice versa,
and women are doing well, men are doing well. The
thing is, there's been neglect of the former of the
men doing well. And I think there has, your point,
been more of a prioritization and talking about women's issues,
which are equally important as men's issues. But with men's issues,
they're just being completely ignored. And you see, and i'm ignored,

(03:50):
just openly mocked. And you see this through certain contemporary
terms such as I won't curse, but small de energy,
toxic masculinity, man's plaining. And it makes it rather even
uncomfortable to bring up boys and men's issues because there
is such mockery of them and hostile culture towards men.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Well, it's the whipification of America. In some other words
we could use too. But why is this happening and
why is it being allowed to happen?

Speaker 3 (04:18):
It's a great question, and I think there's two things.
One I touched on the hostile culture, but even I
want I say hostile culture system more so popular and
even common celebrate to denigrate men. But with that as well,
men aren't typically seen as a singular voting block, or
it's common to say like women prioritize abortion as a

(04:41):
key issue for them, and you know, that makes sense,
and the pulling bears that out. But when you say
men prioritize issue, that's not exactly discussed. There's not this
exact time. They're not seen as a single or voting block,
and you know, maybe these shouldn't they But there are
issues that disapportionately affect men compared to women that a

(05:01):
candy could speak to and help galvanize that large a
populace to turn out and vote for them. So I
think that's one and real quick the other would be
I think there's this erroneous view, in accurate view of
history that men have just been absolutely killing it. They've
always been doing well, and if you look at the top,
that's kind of how it looks, right, But that's a
very skewed view because most men have not lived at

(05:26):
the top throughout history. Most men have been at the bottom,
whether they've been conscripted, enslave work, forced to work these
awful jobs, and just been seeing for women too. So
throughout history, history has been pretty poor for most people.
It's not been fun for most people. But for some
odd reason, whether it comes from academia or elsewhere. It's
as viewed as men have been doing so well for

(05:48):
so long, and now it doesn't really matter if they're
not doing as good, and times to reset focus.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Daniel, do you mind you're with young voices? And do
you mind if I ask how old you are?

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Oh? Yes, I'm twenty five.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Okay, Daniel as a gen Zer and you talk to
a lot of people and are very articulate and very
smart in what you do. What's going to move the
needle for gen Z voters this time?

Speaker 3 (06:11):
You know? It's interesting? So I always think myself a
bit different from like the average gen Z voter, but
I think gen Z voters. But we're really contending with
right now, and the pulling also based us out is housing.
Housing is quite difficult, and culture issues there a ton.
I think abortion man is a ton with the young

(06:32):
gen Z women too. But one ubiquitous issue you know,
that is universal across our generation is unaffordable housing. And
I know that's not specifically related to like men's issues
or women's issues, but it's really all like it impacts
all of us, and it's been extremely difficult, you know,
graduating college, moving somewhere and then being able to keep

(06:54):
up with housing. And I've been and I travel a
lot for work, and I hear this time and time
again with a fellow say gen zers, which I'm going
to use the term, but let me ask you.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Let me ask you this associating the cost of housing
and tough for gen Zers to afford a home right now?
Do gen zers tie that to the bigger picture of
the overall economy and then do they see who's better
to handle the economy?

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yeah? I think that's an interesting point, interesting insight because
Brett Bayering's interview with Kamala Harris last night brought up
that seventy percent of Americans felt like we are going
in the wrong direction. I think that's part of the
economy and for generations, you would hear that. You know,
if things aren't the best for me right now, I
know things will be better for my children. That's no
longer the case. And I believe the majority of people

(07:40):
in the gen Z generation don't believe they can afford
a house or won't be able to afford a house,
and a good bit of millennials too, So I think
the economy does play a large part of that. Obviously,
in terms of how wages are going and inflation. Inflation
has been such an issue over the past four or
five years since COVID.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Basically, wellppreciate your time this morning, very good insight, and
we'll have you back. I really enjoyed it. Daniel Corkran,
Young Voices contributor and also that program manager at Amazon
who I'll be talking to later about in my Amazon
Prime deals. Okay, thanks Daniel,
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