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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A special guest in the studio with U.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Scott Morrow has been here a bunch of times, former
law enforcement officer and an attorney now and has represented
a number of folks when it comes to Birmingham Waterworks Board.
And now he's got a special guest as you're representing
dog the bounty hunter's son, Gary Chapman, who's been in
the news here in Alabama.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Gary, Good to see you, welcome in, Good to see you.
Thanks for having Where's your dad? Is the dog sleeping?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yeah, he's he's in the doghouse.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I thought he might join us this morning, but I
understand him, you know, so hopefully he'll, you know, start
feeling a little bit better.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
But I appreciate you coming by.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
It, so I wanted to get started with what's going
on with you.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
We just found out this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I guess you knew last night that you've been reinstated
with the police department in Priceville.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Right, Yeah, after a long, long Viggers fight, we finally
got reinstated last night. And you know, I'm just I'm
happy to be vindicated and and you know, I look
forward to getting back to work and doing what I
love doing, which is you know, protecting the public and yeah,
(01:06):
and uh getting pair drivers off the street and getting
drug smuggers and that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Well, let's talk about Uh, let's go back to the
beginning for our listeners that are not familiar with what's
happening with your case here. But uh, let's start at
the beginning. When did all of the start that led
to you, I guess being taken off the police force
or put on administrative labor.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
He was terminated completely.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Yeah, completely terminated. But uh so what happened?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
What? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
What September sixth I attended to stop this year. Yeah,
this year, I attended to stop a vehicle for suspected
DUI and the vehicle chose to to to take off,
being operated by Archie Hale, And so he took off
and he went through downtown Hertzel and uh, you know,
he blew a stop sign or a red light correction,
(01:52):
and he he ended up hitting a car with fourteen
teenagers in it. Oh my gosh, killing one severely, injuring
the three others. And so you know, immediately it's it
was a tragic situation, and that was it was. I've
never been a part of a critical incident like that.
In my career, and it was a new to It
was just new to me.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
How long you've been on the police force at this
time when it took place.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I've been an officer for about two and a half years,
this force I was there for.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
But you're chasing this guy. Yeah, he runs a lighter
stop sign, yet and hits somebody and kills somebody in
the car.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah, And so you know, the big question that was
that was being asked was was the chase worth the pursuit?
And so the question that I asked the council, I said,
on a scale to one to ten, how dangerous is
an impaired driver? And I told him if you if
you don't say ten, you're not you're being biased. And
(02:49):
the next thing I said was on a scale of
one to ten, how dangerous is a pursuit?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Eight?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Seven? Said, okay, but guess what ten was the impaired driver?
And I've had eleven pursuits in my last eleven month
or the yeah, eleven pursuits in the last since January,
and not one time have I ever been disciplined. And
so policy does not equal outcome in law enforcement. When
(03:17):
there's a tragic outcome, you definitely want to review on
what you could have done differently. And I think that's
in any profession. If if something bad happens, you want
to look and see if there's a way to prevent
this in the future.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
When you say policy doesn't equal outcome, what do you
mean by that?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
You can do everything correct and still have a tragic outcome, Okay,
And so it doesn't matter how much attention to detail
you had, It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
It can still go.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
But it's a tragedy at the end of the day.
It's an unavoidable tragedy.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
And all right, So there's been an accident, somebody has
been killed. The guy has been arrested.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
He's been charged with murder, as he should be.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah, is he in jail now?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
He's in jail.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
So they didn't bind him out.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
He's on a no bond hold.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Okay, Well that's good news.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Right In the bottom line JT's they said he didn't
assess and reassess properly and stop the pursuit through the
town of Hartzel, But he did that. He was in
charge of this pursuit because he was the only officer.
There was no sergeant to stop the pursuit.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Or monitor.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
So it was up to him his discretion as a
police officer. That is why this case is a nationwide case,
international case on when you give police officers discretion and
they do the best they can under the circumstances life
and that situations quick, they make decisions, You second guess them.
It's a training issue. If you don't like what they did,
(04:43):
talk to him about it. Don't make it a disciplinary
issue and terminate somebody about Well.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
There's nothing in policy in a police department that says
you're not allowed to pursue a drunk driver that's running correct.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah, there's no policle okay.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
And the Supreme Court allows it and specifically says impaired
drivers need to be star.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
All right, I'm on your team on this, you know now,
I mean common sense did this come into play at
all during this Talking with Gary Chapman, officer in Priceville
who was fired after he was chasing a drunk guy
that ran a lighter stop signing killed somebody. But apparently
they put this all on you for chasing him. I mean,
you're at the discretion as an officer to make the
(05:21):
decision on whether or not to continue chasing somebody in
a situation like that, right, You've been given that leeway
to make a decision as an officer.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yeah, and I'll tell you, I mean I don't know
everything you know, and it's hard. This chase lasted three
minutes and forty three seconds. And so you know, the
I told the council yesterday they did have five days
to make this decision to reinstate. They could have had
five days to red you know, but instead they came
back unanismally and unanimously reinstated me.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Fantastic, and so it's it's.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
I mean, I've had overwhelming sport from the community, from
fellow officers and you know, the legislator. But also if
I didn't have Christ through all of this, I mean,
it would not it wouldn't have been possible. Exitus fourteen fourteen.
I mean, that's that was the quote or the verse
I was going by just reading all these comments. I
(06:21):
shouldn't have been, but I was, and I was reading
these comments, and I just wanted to get out there
and be like, I wish they knew what happened, because
I feel like if more people were aware of the
actual facts that happened, there'd be more people on my side.
This guy was had a trafficking amount of fentanyl in
his car. He was high on fentanyl, he or he
tested positive fentanyl, tested positive for ad metafines, he tested
(06:42):
positive for marijuana, He had track.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Marks all basically high as a kite driving around the city.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah, and I mean it's all got to be proved
through the toxicology report, but again it's what we had
at the time.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
My question is, Gary, I don't mean to interrupt you,
but why your chief and the mayor not support you
as an officer for doing your job.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I mean, what happened? They released your name?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Was it the fact that your dog the bounty hunter's son,
and all of a sudden here comes the national press
and oh now this thing's blown up. We got to
do something here. I mean, was there a pressure from
the outside world, Scott.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Maybe We started defending Gary and his actions as tactics,
and then I called for the police chief to resign,
and I called for the mayor to resign because I
felt like they were just ignoring the law and the facts,
and they were manipulating the truth, and they were hammering
Gary for no reason at all, and they were creating
liability for their city and I think maybe the city
(07:41):
council didn't quite get it. They reinstated him but still
gave him a ten day suspension. But I called for
their resignation, and they'd still need to resign. Somebody else
needs to be chief, and Gary Chapman needs to be
second in command.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
If you ask me, well, I mean, I apparently common
sense and stayed out of the room in this whole case.
I mean, it's clear that you were doing your job.
This guy was high as a kite, and he's the
one responsible for the crime, not you, for help, you know,
causing the crime. I mean, what that's outrageous, that reasoning.
But you know, people buckle under pressure. And you know
it's apparently your dad's on the phone now, dog, is
(08:17):
that you this morning?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Good morning, yes, sir, good morning, Thank you. Well, I'm
glad you're joining us.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
A sleepy head, but I just want to say, first
of all, congratulations on this thing turning around and ending
up where it should be, with your son here being
vindicated in this and back on the force here. Your
thoughts on this pole process.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Well, you know, he had a great attorney, got more
so he's been attorney and an attorney for a long time,
and he was also a top cop and was fired,
so he had the experience. And we all came down here.
We backed Gary up completely and we all prayed, pray,
(09:01):
prayed that we we thought it might have to go
to the very end. But thank god the city Council,
you know, reinstate of my son.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Well job well done, Scott Marrow for for you know,
sticking to your guns on this and and and Gary,
I got to tell you this is apparently this is
not over you. And right, I mean you're back on
the forest, is it. Have you sat down with your
your boss and and are you shaking and hugging it
out You're clearing the air moving forward or is this
still some tension there?
Speaker 1 (09:31):
That's got to be a tough, tough little walk back
into work.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Yeah, I mean it's it's going to be a uphill
battle for sure. You know, I'm willing to ultimately, like
I said, i want to get back to the job,
and i want to do what's important, which is protecting
the community, interdicting crime. And you know, I'm willing to
put everything past past this. I'm going to look forward
(09:58):
and I'm willing to get back to work.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
He doesn't want to say anything to alienate the city
and the city leaders that have put him back in position.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
No, I understand that.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
But he's a professional, he's trained, he's going to do
the right thing each and every time. And you know,
we'll we'll if it gets retaliated against, we'll deal with it.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Well.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I really appreciate you sharing, you know, Christ with us
as well in your faith in circum you know, and
circumstances that people face every day. I think it's an
example and a good one for you to share this
and that you leaned on your faith through this whole process. Yeah, absolutely,
and that light would come through the darkness and be shown,
and by golly, it has been shown with that council's decision.
(10:39):
So God bless the work you're doing as an officer
every day getting out there, and hopefully this will open
up the eyes of those that you know kind of
had them shut, not only in your case, but also
in other law enforcement agencies where cops need to be
backed up either you know, look, if you commit a
crime or you do something wrong, then of course you'd
(11:00):
be the first one to say they need to be
hauled accountable, including yourself.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah, I know, I.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Can see that in your I can feel that in you,
and I know you know how you were raised by
your dad and where his heart stands in all of
these types of situations. So I mean, dog, you've been
through it, you know, hell in a handbasket in your
life and career, and you're on the other side of
a lot of things that you went through, and you
know what you stand for and what you've raised your
(11:26):
kids to stand for. H I commend you for that.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Oh, thank you very much. Well, his mother has passed
away almost seven years ago in June, so she had
a Yeah, she would also help the race. Gary because
he you know, he started bounty hunting when he was
very young. He would like ride around at four years old.
He wanted to be a bounty hunter, and then as
(11:51):
he grew up, he wanted to be a police officer.
I mean one time we were filming for CMT Country
Music TV and Gary had a law book in his
truck and he was driving one of the SUVs, and
you know, we were filming and so everything we said
was being recorded, and so they didn't cut much out.
(12:12):
So he said, Dad, you know I turned, I didn't
make a signal when I was going I was going
like seventy six miles an hour, and I don't know
what else I had, but he got on the on
the mic and he said, Dad, you've committed three municipality
laws already. I thought we weren't supposed to break the law.
And my president CNT called me and said, listen, slow
(12:35):
down a little bit. Your son should be a cop.
So even back then he was he was born to
be a police officer. And he's got compassion just like me.
You know, there's times when he pulled guys over with
pot and he dumped it out. You know, he could
have arrested him and did this and that. But he
is a great cop, and I agree that. I've told
(12:58):
him someday, Gary boy, you're going to be the chief
of police.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
And you're a great dad, dog, And I've been proud
to help your family through this, and you're helping all
police officers throughout this nation by standing up for your
son and showing that what love of family has.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Well dog, sir, thank you for calling in.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I appreciate you, and next time you're in town, you're
welcome to coming into the studio anytime with us. And Gary,
thank you for sharing your story. With us here and
I hope everything gets back to, you know, where it
should be in this whole situation here. I mean, people
make mistakes. I think there was a mistake made in this.
It's been righted and hopefully you and them and you can.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
All move on and continue to do what you guys
do best.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yes, sir, thank you for having me on.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Great to have you all right, dog. Thank you, Buddy Scott,
Thank you too, Buddy.
A special guest in the studio with U.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Scott Morrow has been here a bunch of times, former
law enforcement officer and an attorney now and has represented
a number of folks when it comes to Birmingham Waterworks Board.
And now he's got a special guest as you're representing
dog the bounty hunter's son, Gary Chapman, who's been in
the news here in Alabama.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Gary, Good to see you, welcome in, Good to see you.
Thanks for having Where's your dad? Is the dog sleeping?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yeah, he's he's in the doghouse.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I thought he might join us this morning, but I
understand him, you know, so hopefully he'll, you know, start
feeling a little bit better.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
But I appreciate you coming by.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
It, so I wanted to get started with what's going
on with you.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
We just found out this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I guess you knew last night that you've been reinstated
with the police department in Priceville.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Right, Yeah, after a long, long Viggers fight, we finally
got reinstated last night. And you know, I'm just I'm
happy to be vindicated and and you know, I look
forward to getting back to work and doing what I
love doing, which is you know, protecting the public and yeah,
(01:06):
and uh getting pair drivers off the street and getting
drug smuggers and that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Well, let's talk about Uh, let's go back to the
beginning for our listeners that are not familiar with what's
happening with your case here. But uh, let's start at
the beginning. When did all of the start that led
to you, I guess being taken off the police force
or put on administrative labor.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
He was terminated completely.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Yeah, completely terminated. But uh so what happened?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
What? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
What September sixth I attended to stop this year. Yeah,
this year, I attended to stop a vehicle for suspected
DUI and the vehicle chose to to to take off,
being operated by Archie Hale, And so he took off
and he went through downtown Hertzel and uh, you know,
he blew a stop sign or a red light correction,
(01:52):
and he he ended up hitting a car with fourteen
teenagers in it. Oh my gosh, killing one severely, injuring
the three others. And so you know, immediately it's it
was a tragic situation, and that was it was. I've
never been a part of a critical incident like that.
In my career, and it was a new to It
was just new to me.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
How long you've been on the police force at this
time when it took place.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I've been an officer for about two and a half years,
this force I was there for.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
But you're chasing this guy. Yeah, he runs a lighter
stop sign, yet and hits somebody and kills somebody in
the car.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah, And so you know, the big question that was
that was being asked was was the chase worth the pursuit?
And so the question that I asked the council, I said,
on a scale to one to ten, how dangerous is
an impaired driver? And I told him if you if
you don't say ten, you're not you're being biased. And
(02:49):
the next thing I said was on a scale of
one to ten, how dangerous is a pursuit?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Eight?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Seven? Said, okay, but guess what ten was the impaired driver?
And I've had eleven pursuits in my last eleven month
or the yeah, eleven pursuits in the last since January,
and not one time have I ever been disciplined. And
so policy does not equal outcome in law enforcement. When
(03:17):
there's a tragic outcome, you definitely want to review on
what you could have done differently. And I think that's
in any profession. If if something bad happens, you want
to look and see if there's a way to prevent
this in the future.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
When you say policy doesn't equal outcome, what do you
mean by that?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
You can do everything correct and still have a tragic outcome, Okay,
And so it doesn't matter how much attention to detail
you had, It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
It can still go.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
But it's a tragedy at the end of the day.
It's an unavoidable tragedy.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
And all right, So there's been an accident, somebody has
been killed. The guy has been arrested.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
He's been charged with murder, as he should be.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah, is he in jail now?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
He's in jail.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
So they didn't bind him out.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
He's on a no bond hold.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Okay, Well that's good news.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Right In the bottom line JT's they said he didn't
assess and reassess properly and stop the pursuit through the
town of Hartzel, But he did that. He was in
charge of this pursuit because he was the only officer.
There was no sergeant to stop the pursuit.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Or monitor.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
So it was up to him his discretion as a
police officer. That is why this case is a nationwide case,
international case on when you give police officers discretion and
they do the best they can under the circumstances life
and that situations quick, they make decisions, You second guess them.
It's a training issue. If you don't like what they did,
(04:43):
talk to him about it. Don't make it a disciplinary
issue and terminate somebody about Well.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
There's nothing in policy in a police department that says
you're not allowed to pursue a drunk driver that's running correct.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah, there's no policle okay.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
And the Supreme Court allows it and specifically says impaired
drivers need to be star.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
All right, I'm on your team on this, you know now,
I mean common sense did this come into play at
all during this Talking with Gary Chapman, officer in Priceville
who was fired after he was chasing a drunk guy
that ran a lighter stop signing killed somebody. But apparently
they put this all on you for chasing him. I mean,
you're at the discretion as an officer to make the
(05:21):
decision on whether or not to continue chasing somebody in
a situation like that, right, You've been given that leeway
to make a decision as an officer.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yeah, and I'll tell you, I mean I don't know
everything you know, and it's hard. This chase lasted three
minutes and forty three seconds. And so you know, the
I told the council yesterday they did have five days
to make this decision to reinstate. They could have had
five days to red you know, but instead they came
back unanismally and unanimously reinstated me.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Fantastic, and so it's it's.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
I mean, I've had overwhelming sport from the community, from
fellow officers and you know, the legislator. But also if
I didn't have Christ through all of this, I mean,
it would not it wouldn't have been possible. Exitus fourteen fourteen.
I mean, that's that was the quote or the verse
I was going by just reading all these comments. I
(06:21):
shouldn't have been, but I was, and I was reading
these comments, and I just wanted to get out there
and be like, I wish they knew what happened, because
I feel like if more people were aware of the
actual facts that happened, there'd be more people on my side.
This guy was had a trafficking amount of fentanyl in
his car. He was high on fentanyl, he or he
tested positive fentanyl, tested positive for ad metafines, he tested
(06:42):
positive for marijuana, He had track.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Marks all basically high as a kite driving around the city.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah, and I mean it's all got to be proved
through the toxicology report, but again it's what we had
at the time.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
My question is, Gary, I don't mean to interrupt you,
but why your chief and the mayor not support you
as an officer for doing your job.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I mean, what happened? They released your name?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Was it the fact that your dog the bounty hunter's son,
and all of a sudden here comes the national press
and oh now this thing's blown up. We got to
do something here. I mean, was there a pressure from
the outside world, Scott.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Maybe We started defending Gary and his actions as tactics,
and then I called for the police chief to resign,
and I called for the mayor to resign because I
felt like they were just ignoring the law and the facts,
and they were manipulating the truth, and they were hammering
Gary for no reason at all, and they were creating
liability for their city and I think maybe the city
(07:41):
council didn't quite get it. They reinstated him but still
gave him a ten day suspension. But I called for
their resignation, and they'd still need to resign. Somebody else
needs to be chief, and Gary Chapman needs to be
second in command.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
If you ask me, well, I mean, I apparently common
sense and stayed out of the room in this whole case.
I mean, it's clear that you were doing your job.
This guy was high as a kite, and he's the
one responsible for the crime, not you, for help, you know,
causing the crime. I mean, what that's outrageous, that reasoning.
But you know, people buckle under pressure. And you know
it's apparently your dad's on the phone now, dog, is
(08:17):
that you this morning?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Good morning, yes, sir, good morning, Thank you. Well, I'm
glad you're joining us.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
A sleepy head, but I just want to say, first
of all, congratulations on this thing turning around and ending
up where it should be, with your son here being
vindicated in this and back on the force here. Your
thoughts on this pole process.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Well, you know, he had a great attorney, got more
so he's been attorney and an attorney for a long time,
and he was also a top cop and was fired,
so he had the experience. And we all came down here.
We backed Gary up completely and we all prayed, pray,
(09:01):
prayed that we we thought it might have to go
to the very end. But thank god the city Council,
you know, reinstate of my son.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Well job well done, Scott Marrow for for you know,
sticking to your guns on this and and and Gary,
I got to tell you this is apparently this is
not over you. And right, I mean you're back on
the forest, is it. Have you sat down with your
your boss and and are you shaking and hugging it
out You're clearing the air moving forward or is this
still some tension there?
Speaker 1 (09:31):
That's got to be a tough, tough little walk back
into work.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Yeah, I mean it's it's going to be a uphill
battle for sure. You know, I'm willing to ultimately, like
I said, i want to get back to the job,
and i want to do what's important, which is protecting
the community, interdicting crime. And you know, I'm willing to
put everything past past this. I'm going to look forward
(09:58):
and I'm willing to get back to work.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
He doesn't want to say anything to alienate the city
and the city leaders that have put him back in position.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
No, I understand that.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
But he's a professional, he's trained, he's going to do
the right thing each and every time. And you know,
we'll we'll if it gets retaliated against, we'll deal with it.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Well.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I really appreciate you sharing, you know, Christ with us
as well in your faith in circum you know, and
circumstances that people face every day. I think it's an
example and a good one for you to share this
and that you leaned on your faith through this whole process. Yeah, absolutely,
and that light would come through the darkness and be shown,
and by golly, it has been shown with that council's decision.
(10:39):
So God bless the work you're doing as an officer
every day getting out there, and hopefully this will open
up the eyes of those that you know kind of
had them shut, not only in your case, but also
in other law enforcement agencies where cops need to be
backed up either you know, look, if you commit a
crime or you do something wrong, then of course you'd
(11:00):
be the first one to say they need to be
hauled accountable, including yourself.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah, I know, I.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Can see that in your I can feel that in you,
and I know you know how you were raised by
your dad and where his heart stands in all of
these types of situations. So I mean, dog, you've been
through it, you know, hell in a handbasket in your
life and career, and you're on the other side of
a lot of things that you went through, and you
know what you stand for and what you've raised your
(11:26):
kids to stand for. H I commend you for that.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Oh, thank you very much. Well, his mother has passed
away almost seven years ago in June, so she had
a Yeah, she would also help the race. Gary because
he you know, he started bounty hunting when he was
very young. He would like ride around at four years old.
He wanted to be a bounty hunter, and then as
(11:51):
he grew up, he wanted to be a police officer.
I mean one time we were filming for CMT Country
Music TV and Gary had a law book in his
truck and he was driving one of the SUVs, and
you know, we were filming and so everything we said
was being recorded, and so they didn't cut much out.
(12:12):
So he said, Dad, you know I turned, I didn't
make a signal when I was going I was going
like seventy six miles an hour, and I don't know
what else I had, but he got on the on
the mic and he said, Dad, you've committed three municipality
laws already. I thought we weren't supposed to break the law.
And my president CNT called me and said, listen, slow
(12:35):
down a little bit. Your son should be a cop.
So even back then he was he was born to
be a police officer. And he's got compassion just like me.
You know, there's times when he pulled guys over with
pot and he dumped it out. You know, he could
have arrested him and did this and that. But he
is a great cop, and I agree that. I've told
(12:58):
him someday, Gary boy, you're going to be the chief
of police.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
And you're a great dad, dog, And I've been proud
to help your family through this, and you're helping all
police officers throughout this nation by standing up for your
son and showing that what love of family has.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Well dog, sir, thank you for calling in.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I appreciate you, and next time you're in town, you're
welcome to coming into the studio anytime with us. And Gary,
thank you for sharing your story. With us here and
I hope everything gets back to, you know, where it
should be in this whole situation here. I mean, people
make mistakes. I think there was a mistake made in this.
It's been righted and hopefully you and them and you can.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
All move on and continue to do what you guys
do best.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yes, sir, thank you for having me on.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Great to have you all right, dog. Thank you, Buddy Scott,
Thank you too, Buddy.
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