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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Evan Brown joined us Now our correspondent to Fox corsepond
on what's going on with these releases of the hostages.
Always good ebbing to see him come home. And we
had four, I guess female soldiers released Israeli folks. Maybe
this week we get an American nowt but my gosh,
they had to give up two hundred Palestinian soldiers, prisoners, terrorists.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, so yes, that was part of the deal, and
this week's release was a bit shaky. The four young
women that Hamas had held captives since October seventh were
ages or our ages nineteen and twenty. They were younger
than that fifteen years ago, excuse me, fifteen months ago.
When they were taken from their barracks. They were soldiers
(00:46):
in that they were doing their IDF duty as per
their mandatory conscription. But these were not infantry fighters. These
were people manning offices and desks and things like that
at the Nahalos military base. And so when they they
were captured, they were These women were captured young women, teenagers,
captured in their pajamas. In fact, one of them was
(01:07):
seen from video released shortly after October seventh of twenty
twenty three, being dragged into a jeep of some sort
by a masked Hamas gunman, and you could see that
she was bloodied in her genital and anal area. And
so it had been pretty well known that she had
been abused from the get go, and she was one
of the four people released this week. Hamas tried to
(01:33):
play them as soldiers, captured soldiers and released them wearing
not the clothes that they were captured in, but supposedly
their uniforms. Now they were in fatigues that were not
IDF issue, But this was done for propaganda purposes. There
was supposed to be a fifth woman released, not a soldier,
a civilian. That person was not released. And because she
(01:57):
wasn't released, and Hamas was saying, well, we don't know
she is, Israel decided they would not release the two
hundred captured terrorists who had been in prison after due
process for being well terrorists, and they also would not
allow Gozen civilians to move north of the Nitzealine Corridor,
which is the line that bisects the north and south
(02:17):
ends of the Gaza Strip. Once once some other folks
got involved and said what are you doing, Hamas said, oh,
we found this other person and tell you what, We'll
even give you one more this Thursday if you let
are terrorists go. And so on Thursday they are expected
to give up two more, which was not expected, and
(02:38):
then there will be if it goes according to what
should be agreed. The four intended releasing released this weekend
as well sitting up this weekend.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
So I didn't realize there was a delay on those
two hundred. I thought that had already been done. But
apparently these two hundred as well, as you mentioned terrorists,
Some of these folks that they're releasing, I mean, have
been sentenced to life.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
For multiple murders and other acts of terrorism. Yes, yes,
after due process.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yes. You know, Donald Trump had a liaison working with
a Biden administration on all of this, and I guess
this was all designed before Trump obviously took office. I
think Biden started working on this last May. But with
that said, now that Donald Trump is the president of
the United States, do you anticipate the deals changing moving forward?
(03:29):
Are they going to see this through until every one
of them is released? And well are there?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I anticipate that HAMAS will try its best to not
keep its word and keep pushing boundaries and lines as
much as they can, because during the Biden administration there
was very little pushback, if any. What they are likely
to find out, as if they're not finding out already,
is that the Trump administration is not going to stand
(03:54):
for that. What we have seen here even before President
Trump retook office, was that his envoy, Steve Whitcoff, held
a meeting where he kind of held everyone's feet to
the fire, saying, you've been working on this deal since May,
and you're you know, we need to get people out
of the you know, we need to get the Israelis home,
(04:15):
and Humas you keep moving the goalposts, and Cutter you
keep giving them cover, and we don't like any of this.
So what you're seeing now is a little bit more
people told you know where people are towing the line.
But I would not put it past Hamas to try
to fudge it yet again and do something stupid. I
don't put it past Cutter to try to allow them
(04:37):
to get away with it. But they, the folks, especially
in Cutter, are a bit smarter than the people in Humas,
and so meaning that the Katari government, as opposed to
the Hamas leaders, that the Katari government let's stay and cutter,
but you know, they remember Donald Trump from the last
go around, and that's going to be weighing heavy on
(05:00):
their minds.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Evan. How many Americans are still being held hostage, I.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Forget the exact number, but none of them have come
home yet.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, that's what I thought. I hope there's going to
be some release soon. I understand that there was talk
of an American being part of the exchange this week,
and how many are still there and how many you know,
are dead there that they haven't really unveiled yet that
they may say, well, here there.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Are some bodies, and there are a number who are dead,
and a list was presented by Hamas finally, I think
just yesterday to the Israelis, and the Israelies had said
that Hamas's list jives with what they had gathered through
intelligence as to who's you know, they didn't give names specifically,
but they you know, they were talking about numbers of
who's you know, how many A lot of many dead.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Well, I think things are going to certainly change moving
forward after all of this with Donald Trump and Hamas,
just like he did with Isis, and it's going to be,
you know, about to over for them. But you know,
once again, they're born into this. Their DNA is terrorism,
so it's like whack am home, you get them all.
The next thing you know, here they come again. So Evan,
thanks for the update. I pray, I pray for these
(06:04):
folks to come out and just all of them get
released soon
Evan Brown joined us Now our correspondent to Fox corsepond
on what's going on with these releases of the hostages.
Always good ebbing to see him come home. And we
had four, I guess female soldiers released Israeli folks. Maybe
this week we get an American nowt but my gosh,
they had to give up two hundred Palestinian soldiers, prisoners, terrorists.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, so yes, that was part of the deal, and
this week's release was a bit shaky. The four young
women that Hamas had held captives since October seventh were
ages or our ages nineteen and twenty. They were younger
than that fifteen years ago, excuse me, fifteen months ago.
When they were taken from their barracks. They were soldiers
(00:46):
in that they were doing their IDF duty as per
their mandatory conscription. But these were not infantry fighters. These
were people manning offices and desks and things like that
at the Nahalos military base. And so when they they
were captured, they were These women were captured young women, teenagers,
captured in their pajamas. In fact, one of them was
(01:07):
seen from video released shortly after October seventh of twenty
twenty three, being dragged into a jeep of some sort
by a masked Hamas gunman, and you could see that
she was bloodied in her genital and anal area. And
so it had been pretty well known that she had
been abused from the get go, and she was one
of the four people released this week. Hamas tried to
(01:33):
play them as soldiers, captured soldiers and released them wearing
not the clothes that they were captured in, but supposedly
their uniforms. Now they were in fatigues that were not
IDF issue, But this was done for propaganda purposes. There
was supposed to be a fifth woman released, not a soldier,
a civilian. That person was not released. And because she
(01:57):
wasn't released, and Hamas was saying, well, we don't know
she is, Israel decided they would not release the two
hundred captured terrorists who had been in prison after due
process for being well terrorists, and they also would not
allow Gozen civilians to move north of the Nitzealine Corridor,
which is the line that bisects the north and south
(02:17):
ends of the Gaza Strip. Once once some other folks
got involved and said what are you doing, Hamas said, oh,
we found this other person and tell you what, We'll
even give you one more this Thursday if you let
are terrorists go. And so on Thursday they are expected
to give up two more, which was not expected, and
(02:38):
then there will be if it goes according to what
should be agreed. The four intended releasing released this weekend
as well sitting up this weekend.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
So I didn't realize there was a delay on those
two hundred. I thought that had already been done. But
apparently these two hundred as well, as you mentioned terrorists,
Some of these folks that they're releasing, I mean, have
been sentenced to life.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
For multiple murders and other acts of terrorism. Yes, yes,
after due process.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yes. You know, Donald Trump had a liaison working with
a Biden administration on all of this, and I guess
this was all designed before Trump obviously took office. I
think Biden started working on this last May. But with
that said, now that Donald Trump is the president of
the United States, do you anticipate the deals changing moving forward?
(03:29):
Are they going to see this through until every one
of them is released? And well are there?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I anticipate that HAMAS will try its best to not
keep its word and keep pushing boundaries and lines as
much as they can, because during the Biden administration there
was very little pushback, if any. What they are likely
to find out, as if they're not finding out already,
is that the Trump administration is not going to stand
(03:54):
for that. What we have seen here even before President
Trump retook office, was that his envoy, Steve Whitcoff, held
a meeting where he kind of held everyone's feet to
the fire, saying, you've been working on this deal since May,
and you're you know, we need to get people out
of the you know, we need to get the Israelis home,
(04:15):
and Humas you keep moving the goalposts, and Cutter you
keep giving them cover, and we don't like any of this.
So what you're seeing now is a little bit more
people told you know where people are towing the line.
But I would not put it past Hamas to try
to fudge it yet again and do something stupid. I
don't put it past Cutter to try to allow them
(04:37):
to get away with it. But they, the folks, especially
in Cutter, are a bit smarter than the people in Humas,
and so meaning that the Katari government, as opposed to
the Hamas leaders, that the Katari government let's stay and cutter,
but you know, they remember Donald Trump from the last
go around, and that's going to be weighing heavy on
(05:00):
their minds.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Evan. How many Americans are still being held hostage, I.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Forget the exact number, but none of them have come
home yet.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, that's what I thought. I hope there's going to
be some release soon. I understand that there was talk
of an American being part of the exchange this week,
and how many are still there and how many you know,
are dead there that they haven't really unveiled yet that
they may say, well, here there.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Are some bodies, and there are a number who are dead,
and a list was presented by Hamas finally, I think
just yesterday to the Israelis, and the Israelies had said
that Hamas's list jives with what they had gathered through
intelligence as to who's you know, they didn't give names specifically,
but they you know, they were talking about numbers of
who's you know, how many A lot of many dead.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Well, I think things are going to certainly change moving
forward after all of this with Donald Trump and Hamas,
just like he did with Isis, and it's going to be,
you know, about to over for them. But you know,
once again, they're born into this. Their DNA is terrorism,
so it's like whack am home, you get them all.
The next thing you know, here they come again. So Evan,
thanks for the update. I pray, I pray for these
(06:04):
folks to come out and just all of them get
released soon
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