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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This whole thing with Tulsea Gabbard and Trees and allegations
against Obama. I mean, it's starting to get some legs,
no doubt about that. Over the way. I don't know
if you saw this yesday, Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican out
of South Carolina, I mean, clashing with the NBC's Meet
the Press host there, Kristen Welker over this whole thing.
Listen to this.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
You know former President Obama has waged in through a spokesperson.
He says, that's just patently false. I actually spoke to
Susan Miller, who's a former senior CIA officer who helped
oversee the twenty seventeen intelligence assessment on Russian interference. She
said it's completely false that Obama or anyone else asked
them to change or sway their investigations. She says, they all,
(00:39):
she says, and she's a Republican, says they all would
have quit if that had happened. Senator, are you trying
to rewrite history to distract from the Epstein matter?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Senator, I'm trying to let you know and the media
know that we found something we didn't know before. At
the end of the day. I'm not calling for a
process acush against President Obama for treason, but I am
calling for an investigation. Mister Miller also said there was
no credible evidence that President Trump colluded with the Russians.
(01:11):
There you go, and then, by the way, who whistleblower?
Stage left here about ready to take front and centers. So,
buddy that reporter at hosts of the show, is this
just an distraction from Epstein? Wow, they doubled down in
the left media. Don't they join us?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Now?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Ryan Smells with his probe ongoing? Now, Ryan are Fox
correspondent in DC. Good morning, sir.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Come on.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
So after all of that, we still have some Republicans
pushing for this big investigation. Here's some special counsel to
be opponent to dig into all of this? Does this
have legs? Do you believe?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
We'll say? I think? I mean. Also, it's all comes
down to what Pam Bondi wants to do. If she
decides that she wants to want a special counsels, as
she probably can. She decides that she wants to go
ahead with prosecution, she probably can do. The one challenge
it's going to be there for them is like if
they decide to go off to President Obama. If President
Trump has even admitted this that the case where President
(02:10):
Trump was able to argue before the Supreme Court successfully
that presidents enjoy absolute immunity at certain points in their presidency,
He's pretty much admitted that Obama's gonna be able to
invoke that in this case if they were able to
go to that far. So, I mean, that doesn't really
rule out the other members of his cabinet, but it
does make it very hard to go off to President
Obama if you're gonna go down that road.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah, I mean, it's like teflon don you're all that,
you know, just untouchable. It seems that, you know, anytime
there's any investigation like this and nobody really gets held accountable.
How many times should have Clinton's been, you know, brought
before the courts? I mean, over the years. It's just
out of control. But I would think that Pam Bondi
with a whistleblower, now that Telsea Gabbert says, you know
(02:54):
that she's got in all of this, would be enough reason.
I mean, they're both on the same team, so to speak.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Right, Well, have to wait and see. I mean, you know,
Tolcy Gabbertt has given her her evidence, she's given her
the investigation. I think it just depends on what she
wants to do. I mean, there could be, you know,
an investigation from the Department of Justice. There could be
a prosecution. There's a lot of options they have on
the table. Just depends on what they want to pursue.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
What are they saying inside the belt weigh there? What's
the buzz about all this? Just politics as usual? Just
more on yan yan yan yean, focus on what we
really should for the rank of people. What's what's the
temperature of this inside DC?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
I it depends on who you ask. You know, this
came out pretty late in the week while the Epstein
Files was still very prevalent. You know, you had we
weren't able to get Speaker Johnson on this, but you know,
you have some others who have said that they like
you have Democrats who the Democrats pretty argued what you
heard in that clip there, which is I think this
is a distraction from the Epstein Files, away from President
(03:55):
Trump to change the narrative or change the conversation on
to somebody else. In this case, it's Baraco. I'm in
the Obama administration. But then, you know, I think on
Republican circles, this is a it's either seen as something
that oh we can move, we should be looking forward
not backwards, or it's hey, look we've got proof now
that this collusion thing really did happen, and that President
Trump was just attacked for the first three years of
(04:16):
his presidency. And thus, you know, our arguments that the
federal government was weaponized against President Trump, We've got more
proof of that.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
All right, you mentioned Epstein. Where are we on this here?
You know, common sense surface says, I agree as well
with our speaker. Release the files if there's nothing there,
released the nothing, right, I mean, but it's now a
slow walk for whatever reason. I'm just curious if I
saw all the files and read everything, would I change
(04:47):
my mind and go, oh gosh, they can't release this.
I mean, there's just it's not really implicating anyone person
in particular, but there's something deeper here that could cause
people's lives. Here's national security risk. I saw something over
the weekend talk about conspiracy holes. Somebody said, well, there
was bioengineering going on in population control of the efforts
on the island, and this was all about you know,
(05:09):
trying to reduce the amount of population, and I'm like,
oh my gosh, see it's going off in so many
hard directions. I want the files released, even if they
are implicating people, as long as people's lives aren't in
danger by doing so, just to clear up the craziness
that's happening around it.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Well, JT, so it was on the internet, you know
it must be true, right, But yeah, I would say
Gleane Maxwell is probably the big talking point right now.
You have the Department of Justice, you know, speaking with her.
You also have the House Oversight Committee representatives who are
probably going to be going to jail to actually talk
to at some point too. Now there's some questions about
(05:47):
whether Gleainne Maxwell could be a trustworthy witness that's been
raised by both the Republicans and Democrats, from Speaker Johnson
to some other rank and file Democrats. I mean, I
think a lot of people are questioning her howd of
a witness she can be. But at the same time,
I think there's a desire to speak with her, because,
after all, she is probably somebody who knows a lot
(06:08):
of information related to Epstein. So I think there's still
a lot of curiosity there.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
If anybody knows, it's her knowing more than anybody else.
That's for sure. All right, Ryan, thank you, buddy. I
appreciate it.