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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Interesting now is Alex Jones. You remember Alex Jones. This
was the guy that said and kept going on and
on and on about how the twenty twelve Sandy Hook
Elementary School shooting was a big hoax and the uh, well,
i'll tell you what. He got slapped with a huge
lawsuit and the judgment, John, did you see this number?
(00:20):
One point five billion.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Dollars one point like he has that in his wallet.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
It's ridiculous. I mean you might as well say twenty
five trillion.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I mean, you know it was meant to send a message.
Who is meant to make a point?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Well, look, there's a lot of conspiracy theories out there
about everything, and there's still people believe that we didn't
go to the moon.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Wait we went to the moon. Yeah, our JFK or
any there's conspiracy theories about the assassination of Charlie Kirk
one hundred percent, and those people aren't getting sued for
one point five billion dollars.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
And you're right, the JFK thing that Charlie Kirk, that
people died in this and people died in Sandy Hook.
I get. It's pretty offensive of Alex Jones to come
out there and keep you know, harping on the fact
that this never happened. It was all actors. Oh, you
talk to the parents about that, Alex and see what
they have to say about it. What are they playing
along and they're part of the scheme? I mean why?
(01:13):
But on the other side of this whole thing, what
about First Amendment rights for Alex Jones to be able
to say whatever he wants. I mean, the Supreme Court
yesterday it was asked by Alex Jones to step in
and stop this enforcement of nearly one point five billion
dollars against him for falsely claiming that this thing never happened.
So where's the First Amendment in all of this?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Well, of course, the First Amendment says that the government
can't it can't take away your rights. But this is
this is a lawsuit and the it was a juribble.
It was a civil lawsuit, right, yeah, right, So a
jury found that he was liable in defaming them.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
But how does the judge go along with this?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
That's the thing. The I could see them finding him
liable civilly liable for slander, but I can't see that level.
That doesn't it doesn't comport with the amount of damages
because yes, nobody put a price on life. But he
didn't kill them. He's being charged if he killed them.
He didn't kill them. He just said untoward things about
their parents.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Well, Jerry decided he should pay nine hundred and sixty
five million to the families of these kids and for
defamation and emotional stress, and a judge added another four
hundred and seventy four million in punitive damages. He repeatedly
said the shooting that killed twenty students and six teachers
was staged by crisis actors, which is ridiculous, you know, outlandish,
(02:35):
And it's not the first thing that's offensive.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Alex Jones said, all sorts of offensive things about all
sorts of things.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
This is what he does.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
That's exactly.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
He's a loud mouth.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
He's a shock jock.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, big time. But one point five billion dollars I
may w s would you say, JT. I mean, I
just you know, I questioned the First Amendment rights. Here,
you're right, they were sending a message. You know, these
families went through horrific loss. And if you're going to
continue to just come after him, yeah, here you go.
(03:06):
Take this one point five billion dollars. I mean, the
guy's a jerk. I mean, he shouldn't have been doing it,
but wow, that Supreme Court. How do you think they'll
land on this?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I think probably the Supreme Court has been pretty reasonable
here recently, although you know Klanji, Yeah, Kalanji Brown and
you got what's her name, the soda mayor. So they'll
probably I'm sure they'll at least have dissenting opinions, but
I think that probably maybe a seven to two.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah. I don't think that they go along with this
one point five billion.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, I don't think that seems it seems excessively punitive.
If you talk about the the the the Bill of
Rights unreasonable, this is like what a cruel and unusual punishment.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
It's excessive, right, And the fact that he maybe have
to pay something, I get.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
That he should play something.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Absolutely, Yeah, he was. He was out of lot, and
Speaker 2 (03:53):
So it should his employers because he published on their behalf.
Interesting now is Alex Jones. You remember Alex Jones. This
was the guy that said and kept going on and
on and on about how the twenty twelve Sandy Hook
Elementary School shooting was a big hoax and the uh, well,
i'll tell you what. He got slapped with a huge
lawsuit and the judgment, John, did you see this number?
(00:20):
One point five billion.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Dollars one point like he has that in his wallet.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
It's ridiculous. I mean you might as well say twenty
five trillion.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I mean, you know it was meant to send a message.
Who is meant to make a point?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Well, look, there's a lot of conspiracy theories out there
about everything, and there's still people believe that we didn't
go to the moon.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Wait we went to the moon. Yeah, our JFK or
any there's conspiracy theories about the assassination of Charlie Kirk
one hundred percent, and those people aren't getting sued for
one point five billion dollars.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
And you're right, the JFK thing that Charlie Kirk, that
people died in this and people died in Sandy Hook.
I get. It's pretty offensive of Alex Jones to come
out there and keep you know, harping on the fact
that this never happened. It was all actors. Oh, you
talk to the parents about that, Alex and see what
they have to say about it. What are they playing
along and they're part of the scheme? I mean why?
(01:13):
But on the other side of this whole thing, what
about First Amendment rights for Alex Jones to be able
to say whatever he wants. I mean, the Supreme Court
yesterday it was asked by Alex Jones to step in
and stop this enforcement of nearly one point five billion
dollars against him for falsely claiming that this thing never happened.
So where's the First Amendment in all of this?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Well, of course, the First Amendment says that the government
can't it can't take away your rights. But this is
this is a lawsuit and the it was a juribble.
It was a civil lawsuit, right, yeah, right, So a
jury found that he was liable in defaming them.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
But how does the judge go along with this?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
That's the thing. The I could see them finding him
liable civilly liable for slander, but I can't see that level.
That doesn't it doesn't comport with the amount of damages
because yes, nobody put a price on life. But he
didn't kill them. He's being charged if he killed them.
He didn't kill them. He just said untoward things about
their parents.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Well, Jerry decided he should pay nine hundred and sixty
five million to the families of these kids and for
defamation and emotional stress, and a judge added another four
hundred and seventy four million in punitive damages. He repeatedly
said the shooting that killed twenty students and six teachers
was staged by crisis actors, which is ridiculous, you know, outlandish,
(02:35):
And it's not the first thing that's offensive.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Alex Jones said, all sorts of offensive things about all
sorts of things.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
This is what he does.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
That's exactly.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
He's a loud mouth.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
He's a shock jock.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, big time. But one point five billion dollars I
may w s would you say, JT. I mean, I
just you know, I questioned the First Amendment rights. Here,
you're right, they were sending a message. You know, these
families went through horrific loss. And if you're going to
continue to just come after him, yeah, here you go.
(03:06):
Take this one point five billion dollars. I mean, the
guy's a jerk. I mean, he shouldn't have been doing it,
but wow, that Supreme Court. How do you think they'll
land on this?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I think probably the Supreme Court has been pretty reasonable
here recently, although you know Klanji, Yeah, Kalanji Brown and
you got what's her name, the soda mayor. So they'll
probably I'm sure they'll at least have dissenting opinions, but
I think that probably maybe a seven to two.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah. I don't think that they go along with this
one point five billion.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, I don't think that seems it seems excessively punitive.
If you talk about the the the the Bill of
Rights unreasonable, this is like what a cruel and unusual punishment.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
It's excessive, right, And the fact that he maybe have
to pay something, I get.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
That he should play something.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Absolutely, Yeah, he was. He was out of lot, and
Speaker 2 (03:53):
So it should his employers because he published on their behalf.
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