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Speaker 1 (00:00):
John Mounts in for JT. Yesterday, a reporter asked Donald
Trump how he wants his supporters to respond to the
assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
How do you want to be your supporters respond to that?
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Charlie Kirks big advocate of nonviolentce and free speech at gaps.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
How do you want your supporter to repond there? I
think that way he was, he was an advocate of nonviolence.
That's the way I'd like to see people.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
For joining me now is John Decker, John from Washington.
We're seeing a lot of response to the assassination and
a lot of support for nonviolence. But how much of
that is actually they're saying what they mean and not
just paying lip service.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Well, I don't know. I can't get him ahead of
every person out there, John, but you know that's what
the leaders are saying, meaning the leaders here in Washington,
the leaders in Congress. But they don't speak for everyone
in America. You know, if there's someone that wishes to
do harm to an individual, they'll go about trying to
do just that. So hopefully people he the advice of
(01:00):
what the President just said. You heard it right there,
what the President said to his supporters, and in addition
to that, hopefully things calm down, the political climate just
calms down quite a bit.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Some other I'm actually interested in some of the things
we've heard on the other side of the eye, the
Democrat response, because actually even Bernie Sanders has had a
fairly majored tone in all of this.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Well, yeah, that's right. I mean, we've seen it from
a number of individuals saying that deploring and condemning political violence.
We've seen it, now on both sides. We've seen it.
You know, with the the assassination of that state representative
in Minnesota that was back in June, Charlie Kirk is
the latest example of that. Last summer, President Trump tempted
(01:48):
assassination on his life. So this is not anything new.
And you know, I think that that's one of the
reasons why I've noticed an increased security presence around the president.
I noticed that last night when the President was in
New York City to watch the New York Yankees play
the Detroit Tigers at Yankee Stadium in the Bronx, And
I think that that is something that is here to stay,
(02:09):
that increased security presidence around President Trump, especially in this environment.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
It's a delicate task because on one hand, we don't
want it to look like we live in a police state.
You don't want it to make it look like the
president has to have all of this security, but he does.
But they have to do it in such a way
to where it's not intrusive that you know, they put
a barrier up, but make sure that it doesn't make
it look like, you know, the president's behind some sort
of you know, harmtically sealed chamber. You know that he's
(02:37):
still accessible to the people sort of, but not so
accessible that that tragedy can strike.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Well, that's right, you know, And I wonder to what
extent we're going to see those outdoor rallies with President Trump.
He loves them, his supporters love them. But it's very
difficult even for the trained Secret Service to secure the
perimeter when you're talking about an outdoor event. So we'll
have to wait and see. You know, there was obviously
(03:04):
what happened with Charlie Kirk was an outdoor event. He
did not have Secret Service protection. He did have private security.
But someone who's held then on harming an individual, as
we saw on Wednesday, can deal with that security. And
you know, when you're firing a weapon from you know,
some say two hundred yards away, just difficult to protect,
(03:26):
to protect an individual, and we saw that on Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Ihearts John Decker, thank you so much for joining us
this morning on Alabama's Morning News. I know you've got
to get onto other stations. Yeah, the situation is difficult.
With Charlie kirk Is, one of those signature things was
that he liked to be able to be up there
talking to people. He made those videos where people would
come up and they would speak to him one on
one and they were, you know, fifteen feet away from him,
(03:51):
and the only thing standing between him and the person
talking to him usually was like a little one of
those little metal gate kind of things. And he had
the guy with a microphone and another person maybe who
might be able to sort of push them back a
little bit. Really, I guess he was more hoping that
the crowd around them would contain these people. It's something
that I always worried about in watching Charlie kirk out there.
In the back of my mind, I always thought, what
(04:12):
happens what keeps somebody who gets enraged? Not because Charlie
Kirkis is seeking to enrage them. But because these people
they're losing the argument, and when they lose the argument,
they lose they're cool. What keeps one of these people
from charging at him? And I gather that he has security,
but as we can all see that security sometimes is
not strong enough to be able to ward off everything.
(04:34):
And I think it was yesterday, I think it was
Evan Brown we were talking to and he said, what
this probably means is people like him, like say Ben Shapiro,
who does a lot of the same kind of stuff,
they're probably going to stick with indoor events because in
an indoor event, you can better control the crowd, you
can better control the situation, the surrounding, and you have
better control of who gets in who gets out. You know,
(04:55):
when something happens, it'd be great to be able to
stop somebody at the door, as opposed to they just
jump off the roof and run under the wood. So
those are all things that will be considered. And it's
unfortunate that it It kind of gets in the way
of us being able to have a conversation with one another,
especially when the side this losing decides to take it out,
you know, at the at the with a gun
John Mounts in for JT. Yesterday, a reporter asked Donald
Trump how he wants his supporters to respond to the
assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
How do you want to be your supporters respond to that?
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Charlie Kirks big advocate of nonviolentce and free speech at gaps.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
How do you want your supporter to repond there? I
think that way he was, he was an advocate of nonviolence.
That's the way I'd like to see people.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
For joining me now is John Decker, John from Washington.
We're seeing a lot of response to the assassination and
a lot of support for nonviolence. But how much of
that is actually they're saying what they mean and not
just paying lip service.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Well, I don't know. I can't get him ahead of
every person out there, John, but you know that's what
the leaders are saying, meaning the leaders here in Washington,
the leaders in Congress. But they don't speak for everyone
in America. You know, if there's someone that wishes to
do harm to an individual, they'll go about trying to
do just that. So hopefully people he the advice of
(01:00):
what the President just said. You heard it right there,
what the President said to his supporters, and in addition
to that, hopefully things calm down, the political climate just
calms down quite a bit.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Some other I'm actually interested in some of the things
we've heard on the other side of the eye, the
Democrat response, because actually even Bernie Sanders has had a
fairly majored tone in all of this.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Well, yeah, that's right. I mean, we've seen it from
a number of individuals saying that deploring and condemning political violence.
We've seen it, now on both sides. We've seen it.
You know, with the the assassination of that state representative
in Minnesota that was back in June, Charlie Kirk is
the latest example of that. Last summer, President Trump tempted
(01:48):
assassination on his life. So this is not anything new.
And you know, I think that that's one of the
reasons why I've noticed an increased security presence around the president.
I noticed that last night when the President was in
New York City to watch the New York Yankees play
the Detroit Tigers at Yankee Stadium in the Bronx, And
I think that that is something that is here to stay,
(02:09):
that increased security presidence around President Trump, especially in this environment.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
It's a delicate task because on one hand, we don't
want it to look like we live in a police state.
You don't want it to make it look like the
president has to have all of this security, but he does.
But they have to do it in such a way
to where it's not intrusive that you know, they put
a barrier up, but make sure that it doesn't make
it look like, you know, the president's behind some sort
of you know, harmtically sealed chamber. You know that he's
(02:37):
still accessible to the people sort of, but not so
accessible that that tragedy can strike.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Well, that's right, you know, And I wonder to what
extent we're going to see those outdoor rallies with President Trump.
He loves them, his supporters love them. But it's very
difficult even for the trained Secret Service to secure the
perimeter when you're talking about an outdoor event. So we'll
have to wait and see. You know, there was obviously
(03:04):
what happened with Charlie Kirk was an outdoor event. He
did not have Secret Service protection. He did have private security.
But someone who's held then on harming an individual, as
we saw on Wednesday, can deal with that security. And
you know, when you're firing a weapon from you know,
some say two hundred yards away, just difficult to protect,
(03:26):
to protect an individual, and we saw that on Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Ihearts John Decker, thank you so much for joining us
this morning on Alabama's Morning News. I know you've got
to get onto other stations. Yeah, the situation is difficult.
With Charlie kirk Is, one of those signature things was
that he liked to be able to be up there
talking to people. He made those videos where people would
come up and they would speak to him one on
one and they were, you know, fifteen feet away from him,
(03:51):
and the only thing standing between him and the person
talking to him usually was like a little one of
those little metal gate kind of things. And he had
the guy with a microphone and another person maybe who
might be able to sort of push them back a
little bit. Really, I guess he was more hoping that
the crowd around them would contain these people. It's something
that I always worried about in watching Charlie kirk out there.
In the back of my mind, I always thought, what
(04:12):
happens what keeps somebody who gets enraged? Not because Charlie
Kirkis is seeking to enrage them. But because these people
they're losing the argument, and when they lose the argument,
they lose they're cool. What keeps one of these people
from charging at him? And I gather that he has security,
but as we can all see that security sometimes is
not strong enough to be able to ward off everything.
(04:34):
And I think it was yesterday, I think it was
Evan Brown we were talking to and he said, what
this probably means is people like him, like say Ben Shapiro,
who does a lot of the same kind of stuff,
they're probably going to stick with indoor events because in
an indoor event, you can better control the crowd, you
can better control the situation, the surrounding, and you have
better control of who gets in who gets out. You know,
(04:55):
when something happens, it'd be great to be able to
stop somebody at the door, as opposed to they just
jump off the roof and run under the wood. So
those are all things that will be considered. And it's
unfortunate that it It kind of gets in the way
of us being able to have a conversation with one another,
especially when the side this losing decides to take it out,
you know, at the at the with a gun
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