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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Tragic situation yesterday morning took place in school in Minneapolis.
This was a Catholic school as the kids were in
mass during all of this, and a crazy man who
obviously mentally ill, had a lot of issues going on,
as he had a manifesto that indicated he hated everybody,
it seemed, Blacks, Jewish people, Christians, Trump, I mean, the
(00:21):
list just goes on and on. And he shows up
at the school and blindly shoots into this school because
he shot through stained glass windows. He didn't enter the
school initially, I don't know if he entered the school
it ever, and just started firing bullets through and just
two people are dead. Two kids died, a ten year
(00:41):
old and a seven year old. Seventeen others are injured
in all of this and summoned serious shape right now
in the hospital. Police Chief Brian O'Hare there said it
was the first week of school for these students.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
This worship service was marking the first week of school
for children that are attending the Annunciation Catholic School. During
the mass, a gunman approached on the outside on the
side of the building and began firing a rifle through
the church windows towards the children sitting in the pews
(01:13):
at the mess.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Horrible situation, and the bullets obviously tore the place up.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I mean, the shooter was armed with a rifle, a shotgun,
and a pistol. This was a deliberate act of violence
against innocent children and other people worshiping.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Oh my god, I mean, it's just awful what took
place here. And the bullets ripped into the pews, wood
is flying everywhere, kids are getting hit, and it was
just horrible. Then this guy kills himself. So they had
a number of different weapons there, as you heard, and
one of the kids, ten years old, fifth grader here
describing what he saw when this started.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
We just got into mask. There was like three minutes after.
He was very scary. It was like my friend got
shot in the back. He's in the hospital right now.
I think he's gonna be okay. And then my friend Victor,
he was like laying on top of me, like making
sure I was safe, and he got hit, So that
(02:16):
was really brave of him. I'm just like confused kind
of because I never thought it would happen, and it
just happens.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
It's just terrible traumatic experience for this young boy. And
on all these kids there, and it will be with
him for a long time. Pat Scolland, who lives next
door to the church, came running when he heard the shots.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
I immediately went to the front of the church and
it was just then that people were coming out, mainly kids,
and it was pretty chaotic, and I right away focused
on two young girls that have been pretty seriously hurt,
and then another boy that had looked like a was
brandished on his arm, and I kind of hung with
(02:57):
them until the EMTs came because they were obviously very
distressed and I was worried about their physical condition and
held the one girl's hay hand. She wanted me to
do that, and they did. They asked for their mom
and I reassured them and gave them comfort. But it
was it was a terrible saying.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Horrible situation, and this was a mentally ill crazed hate.
Man was just unbelievably filled with hate. Of course, the
mayor lib Jacob Frye blaming the guns.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
The impetus has to be on all of us as
leaders to do a whole lot more to recognize that
we've got more guns in this country than we have people,
and it's on all of us to recognize the truth
and the reality that we can't just say that this
shouldn't happen again and then allow it to happen again
(03:51):
and again. Beyond that, it's on all of us.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Nobody is allowing this to happen. Mayor Okay, And it's
not the guns problem. Minneapolis and Minnesota probably some of
the toughest gun laws in the country as far as
tight goes. So what do you mean you can't allow
it to happen? How are you going to stop this?
How are you going to stop somebody? Let's say, take
every gun away in the country right now, they just
(04:16):
flesh them, They're gone. So what it's next? You can
take away automobiles as people plow through Bourbon Street in
New Orleans and take the truck in and kill people
knives Now, we don't have knives allowed anymore, Baseball bats, crowbars. Really,
where do you draw the line on weapons used to
(04:37):
kill people? From angry people's minds, you know, just being lost.
I'm telling you there's mental illness going on with this guy,
one hundred percent. He was transitioning from a guy to
a girl. And the mayor says, don't don't don't be
talking about that.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Anybody who is using this as using this as an
opportunity to villainize our trans community or any other community
out there, has lost their sense of common humanity. We
should not be operating out of a place of hate
for anyone. We should be operating from a place of
(05:16):
love for our kids. Kids died today. This needs to
be about them.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Nobody's operating from a position of hate that you know,
our normal law abiding citizens. Okay, we all understand as
believers that this is a fallen world we live in.
We all know as human beings that there's bad things
that happen to good people in this in this world.
We know there's mentally ill people out there that react
(05:45):
to situations with violence. None of it has to do
with the gun. It has to do with a person
behind the gun, the truck, the knife, the baseball, bet,
the weapon, and when they come out and start doing this,
and you know, look, and the fact that he was trans.
I'm not saying all trans people have the propensity to
pick up a gun and go shoot up a school.
(06:06):
And that's not what I'm saying here at all. But
as we've talked about all morning, John, I mean people
don't want to change their sex that you know, they
feel that they're in the wrong body and they want
to actually mutilate their bodies to do something like this.
That's that's something's going on in your brain to come
to that conclusion that that's what you've got to do.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
It's almost like a dys morphia problem. Like these people
who have a anorexia problem and they're skin and bones,
but they still look in the mirror and see a
fat person. They have something mentally not right into accept it,
to forget, accept it, not it used to be tolerate,
Then it's accept then it's actually you know, a law
of them say this is great, this is wonderful. You
want to be you're a boy and you want to
be a girl. This is not something we should be
(06:46):
celebrating as a society. This has to be something that
we should be seriously concerned about because this is what happens.
And you listen to Mayor Fry and doesn't he sound
like he's actually putting the blame on people who are
pointing people like you and I who are pointing this out,
that we're responsible for the shooting because we're not more
accepting of this man's gender dysport. If we were more
accepting of this, he wouldn't have gone to these links.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Every doctor I've talked to about it says, gender dysphoria
is real, first of all, but it's not a biological problem.
It's a psychological issue and should be dealt with accordingly,
which means psychiatry and therapy and discussion.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
And yet they've taken out of the DSMR. They've taken
it out to where you can't even address it as
a physician, as a psychologist anymore, or you're risk losing
your license because we have to not just tolerate it,
not just accept it, but actually not even condone it,
like actually congratulate it's it's to be, you know, lauded.
It's a great thing. It's wonderful, and it's terrible.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah, that's that's where a lot of problems lie. And
in the mental health issue. I'm not in pro red
flags by the legislative bodies, by the courts. I'm pro
flags being raised by family members.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
Well, there's no flags that would have been had with
this guy. He had those guns legally, he didn't raise
any red flag. He wouldn't have had any red flags
because he had no criminal rect he went off the
deep end and purchased guns and then went and did
something with them.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I guarantee if family members knew that there was something
off here.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
Yeah, like when his mom was the one who signed
him up to have his name changed, right when he's
eighteen years he doesn't know what he's about at eighteen.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, they're the left, always focusing on the wrong side
of the issue on what's going on here. And you
know it's enough to you know, say you're anti guns
because you don't like them, you're afraid of them, you
don't But the bottom line, his guns are not going
anywhere in this country in the Second Amendment. If you
don't like guns, you don't get them, Okay, But it's
(08:35):
not the gun's fault that this guy ended up shooting
up this school here. And there were family members that
were aware of the propensity for this guy's mental instability
to ramp up. And with that manifesto that you know
came out, there were signs, there were no doubt signs
before all this. So
Tragic situation yesterday morning took place in school in Minneapolis.
This was a Catholic school as the kids were in
mass during all of this, and a crazy man who
obviously mentally ill, had a lot of issues going on,
as he had a manifesto that indicated he hated everybody,
it seemed, Blacks, Jewish people, Christians, Trump, I mean, the
(00:21):
list just goes on and on. And he shows up
at the school and blindly shoots into this school because
he shot through stained glass windows. He didn't enter the
school initially, I don't know if he entered the school
it ever, and just started firing bullets through and just
two people are dead. Two kids died, a ten year
(00:41):
old and a seven year old. Seventeen others are injured
in all of this and summoned serious shape right now
in the hospital. Police Chief Brian O'Hare there said it
was the first week of school for these students.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
This worship service was marking the first week of school
for children that are attending the Annunciation Catholic School. During
the mass, a gunman approached on the outside on the
side of the building and began firing a rifle through
the church windows towards the children sitting in the pews
(01:13):
at the mess.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Horrible situation, and the bullets obviously tore the place up.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I mean, the shooter was armed with a rifle, a shotgun,
and a pistol. This was a deliberate act of violence
against innocent children and other people worshiping.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Oh my god, I mean, it's just awful what took
place here. And the bullets ripped into the pews, wood
is flying everywhere, kids are getting hit, and it was
just horrible. Then this guy kills himself. So they had
a number of different weapons there, as you heard, and
one of the kids, ten years old, fifth grader here
describing what he saw when this started.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
We just got into mask. There was like three minutes after.
He was very scary. It was like my friend got
shot in the back. He's in the hospital right now.
I think he's gonna be okay. And then my friend Victor,
he was like laying on top of me, like making
sure I was safe, and he got hit, So that
(02:16):
was really brave of him. I'm just like confused kind
of because I never thought it would happen, and it
just happens.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
It's just terrible traumatic experience for this young boy. And
on all these kids there, and it will be with
him for a long time. Pat Scolland, who lives next
door to the church, came running when he heard the shots.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
I immediately went to the front of the church and
it was just then that people were coming out, mainly kids,
and it was pretty chaotic, and I right away focused
on two young girls that have been pretty seriously hurt,
and then another boy that had looked like a was
brandished on his arm, and I kind of hung with
(02:57):
them until the EMTs came because they were obviously very
distressed and I was worried about their physical condition and
held the one girl's hay hand. She wanted me to
do that, and they did. They asked for their mom
and I reassured them and gave them comfort. But it
was it was a terrible saying.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Horrible situation, and this was a mentally ill crazed hate.
Man was just unbelievably filled with hate. Of course, the
mayor lib Jacob Frye blaming the guns.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
The impetus has to be on all of us as
leaders to do a whole lot more to recognize that
we've got more guns in this country than we have people,
and it's on all of us to recognize the truth
and the reality that we can't just say that this
shouldn't happen again and then allow it to happen again
(03:51):
and again. Beyond that, it's on all of us.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Nobody is allowing this to happen. Mayor Okay, And it's
not the guns problem. Minneapolis and Minnesota probably some of
the toughest gun laws in the country as far as
tight goes. So what do you mean you can't allow
it to happen? How are you going to stop this?
How are you going to stop somebody? Let's say, take
every gun away in the country right now, they just
(04:16):
flesh them, They're gone. So what it's next? You can
take away automobiles as people plow through Bourbon Street in
New Orleans and take the truck in and kill people
knives Now, we don't have knives allowed anymore, Baseball bats, crowbars. Really,
where do you draw the line on weapons used to
(04:37):
kill people? From angry people's minds, you know, just being lost.
I'm telling you there's mental illness going on with this guy,
one hundred percent. He was transitioning from a guy to
a girl. And the mayor says, don't don't don't be
talking about that.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Anybody who is using this as using this as an
opportunity to villainize our trans community or any other community
out there, has lost their sense of common humanity. We
should not be operating out of a place of hate
for anyone. We should be operating from a place of
(05:16):
love for our kids. Kids died today. This needs to
be about them.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Nobody's operating from a position of hate that you know,
our normal law abiding citizens. Okay, we all understand as
believers that this is a fallen world we live in.
We all know as human beings that there's bad things
that happen to good people in this in this world.
We know there's mentally ill people out there that react
(05:45):
to situations with violence. None of it has to do
with the gun. It has to do with a person
behind the gun, the truck, the knife, the baseball, bet,
the weapon, and when they come out and start doing this,
and you know, look, and the fact that he was trans.
I'm not saying all trans people have the propensity to
pick up a gun and go shoot up a school.
(06:06):
And that's not what I'm saying here at all. But
as we've talked about all morning, John, I mean people
don't want to change their sex that you know, they
feel that they're in the wrong body and they want
to actually mutilate their bodies to do something like this.
That's that's something's going on in your brain to come
to that conclusion that that's what you've got to do.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
It's almost like a dys morphia problem. Like these people
who have a anorexia problem and they're skin and bones,
but they still look in the mirror and see a
fat person. They have something mentally not right into accept it,
to forget, accept it, not it used to be tolerate,
Then it's accept then it's actually you know, a law
of them say this is great, this is wonderful. You
want to be you're a boy and you want to
be a girl. This is not something we should be
(06:46):
celebrating as a society. This has to be something that
we should be seriously concerned about because this is what happens.
And you listen to Mayor Fry and doesn't he sound
like he's actually putting the blame on people who are
pointing people like you and I who are pointing this out,
that we're responsible for the shooting because we're not more
accepting of this man's gender dysport. If we were more
accepting of this, he wouldn't have gone to these links.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Every doctor I've talked to about it says, gender dysphoria
is real, first of all, but it's not a biological problem.
It's a psychological issue and should be dealt with accordingly,
which means psychiatry and therapy and discussion.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
And yet they've taken out of the DSMR. They've taken
it out to where you can't even address it as
a physician, as a psychologist anymore, or you're risk losing
your license because we have to not just tolerate it,
not just accept it, but actually not even condone it,
like actually congratulate it's it's to be, you know, lauded.
It's a great thing. It's wonderful, and it's terrible.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah, that's that's where a lot of problems lie. And
in the mental health issue. I'm not in pro red
flags by the legislative bodies, by the courts. I'm pro
flags being raised by family members.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
Well, there's no flags that would have been had with
this guy. He had those guns legally, he didn't raise
any red flag. He wouldn't have had any red flags
because he had no criminal rect he went off the
deep end and purchased guns and then went and did
something with them.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I guarantee if family members knew that there was something
off here.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
Yeah, like when his mom was the one who signed
him up to have his name changed, right when he's
eighteen years he doesn't know what he's about at eighteen.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, they're the left, always focusing on the wrong side
of the issue on what's going on here. And you
know it's enough to you know, say you're anti guns
because you don't like them, you're afraid of them, you
don't But the bottom line, his guns are not going
anywhere in this country in the Second Amendment. If you
don't like guns, you don't get them, Okay, But it's
(08:35):
not the gun's fault that this guy ended up shooting
up this school here. And there were family members that
were aware of the propensity for this guy's mental instability
to ramp up. And with that manifesto that you know
came out, there were signs, there were no doubt signs
before all this. So
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