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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Joining me now to talk about this is our next guest,
Julie Harris. She is the National Federation of Republican Women President. Julie,
Welcome to Alabama's Morning News.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Good morning, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Absolutely so this case, as I was just explaining, it
doesn't necessarily mean that Supreme Court itself the national government
made a decision on this, but rather that it goes
back to the ruling from the Tennessee Supreme Court. What
are a lot of advocates for this, for a gender
firm and care saying about this, I imagine they're not thrilled.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Well, I would imagine not that me as a president
of the National Federation of Republican Women and all women's
organization where the moms of the country, we believe that
the Supreme Court got it right. Tennessee got it right.
Child welfare and basic common sense prevailed. The very first
state to pass a law like this was my home state,
(00:54):
Arkansas in twenty twenty one. It was my dear friend,
Representative Robin took a bold step and sponsored legislation that
would band genital mutilation and castration of children. And now
we've seen I think twenty seven maybe states that have
(01:15):
tried to pass something very similar. We're living in the
right direction. Think about it. We are a country that
has some of the best medical care in the world
that sadly we're refusing to follow science and the results.
We're talking about life altering, irreversible medical procedures that will
(01:37):
forever alter the child's body, most likely shortening their lifespan
and committing them to a life of medical dependency. It
carries devastating physical, emotional, financial consequences that no miner can
fully comprehend what we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
One of the things that you often hear in the
situation is they say that this is necessary, that these
transgender kids are more likely to commit suicide if they're
not if they're not allowed to continue on. But I
would say, if you look at many of the cases
I've seen, it's the other way around. Once they have
received their what they're calling gender it's not really gender affirming. Really,
(02:17):
what it is actually gender denying care once they've but
once they've as you as you put it, once they've
gone through the mutilation process, a lot of times ten
fifteen years down the road, they regret it. And that
is a lot of times when you see these these
suicides happen. There was a I don't know if you're
familiar at all with the case surrounding this. I guess
he was a psychiatrist. His name was doctor Money, and
(02:40):
he did this experiment. And this is back in the
probably I think the fifties sixties where he had there
was the there was these two twins that were born,
two twin boys, and uh they were and they were circumcised,
and one of the circumstansions went wrong, and they said, well,
this could be an opportunity to try an experiment on
this twin, one of these twins. So we said this
one boy was going to be a girl, so we
(03:03):
raised him as a her after they had the surgery done,
and they kept him from knowing the truth of what happened,
and it wasn't until much later in life that he
found out. And sadly, it led to it led to confusion,
it led to it led to depression, and it led
to his own suicide.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, I have heard a little bit about that, and
you're right. Studies showed that it's the opposite that children
that undergo these types of surgery it doesn't fix their problems.
And a lot of times. They're even more depressed when
you're thinking about children and raising children, and especially if
(03:42):
there are children who are having emotional issues or who
are struggling. It requires wisdom, love, responsibility, possibly even therapy.
Not making decisions that will forever change change their body.
And it's irreversible.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Well, just like you're not allowed to get it.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Remember it's life long medical treatment for the rest of
their life.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
And you know, you're not allowed to get a tattoo.
You can't. I can't take my fifteen year old daughter
for a tattoo. Even if I really wanted to get
a tattoo, No tattoo shop would do it because she's
got to be eighteen to get that done. It should
probably be the same thing. And if you turn eighteen
and you want to have the surgery done, okay, now
you're an adult. You can. Now you can, you know,
(04:28):
make that decision. I realized what the the other side
is going to say is, well, when they're young, that's
when you know it makes the most sense because they
haven't gone through puberty yet, and we can go ahead
and we can we can apply these these things to
slow down puberty or block puberty. And that's the reason
why they want to do it young, but it's still
I think it might be too soon to make that determination, even.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
More reason not to do it. They have things been
called in puberty looks. I have said that many times
young people don't even know what they want to do
when they grow up.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, I think it's a to save eighteen year olds
decide what they want to do when they grow up.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
If they didn't even vote for the president of the
United States, right, and they can't sign a contract, they
can't buy alcohol. There's lots of things and people cannot
do until they reach adulthood, and even then, when they
reach adulthood, it's questionable on it they shouldn't do these
things sooner or later.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
We got to let people make their own their own
poor decisions. But I think at child, at that age,
you should be protected from those poor decisions. And I
guess really what we're doing is protecting those children from
their parents poor decision or I'm gonna say it's probably
one parent who decides that they want they want the
child to go through this gender affirming care like they
want to call it. Because I've not seen a lot
(05:39):
of situations where you've where you've got a nuclear family,
you know, with a mom and a dad and three kids,
and they're all grown up in a normal Normal is
the wrong word, but you know what I mean. It's
it's in a situations like that, usually it's an unusual environment. Yeah,
it's usually an unusual situation where all of a sudden
Sally decides she wants to be Tommy. It's it's usually
a strange situation to begin with.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yes, absolutely, and even if there are rare cases that
both parents are supportive of it. Again, to your point,
they can't get a tattoo, they can't not alcohol, they
can't enter into a contract. There are a lot of
things with or without parents, we do not allow miners
to do well. It's common sense. It's hard to believe
(06:23):
we're even having to have this discussion, like the real
serious discussion about this, but we are.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
And it's not over yet. You know, this didn't This
didn't settle it. This is just that there'll be another
one and the case will get challenged and it'll go
to Supreme Court again, and we'll see this continue on
for a while. I don't know what the endgame is
because it seems like we're there's there's something afoot because
there's a coalition of the the the gay lesbian community
(06:51):
along with the transgender community, where there's for some reason,
everyone's all in together, but they're not really because there's plenty,
I know, plenty of gay men who are definitely not
transgender and don't agree with all this transgender surgery stuff.
There's different people with different opinions on that side of things,
and it's interesting that we try and lump everyone together
(07:13):
as if they're all one monolith.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
That is exactly right. There's people on both sides who
have varying opinions about this. One good thing about this
ruling is it will definitely be a huge step towards
protecting our children from experimental drugs and chemical surgical castrations.
As several of these state laws are making their way
(07:37):
to record, including in Arkansas's, it's still at the eighth circuit.
So this is a good step in the right direction.
And to your point, we're seeing the LGBT community come
out and support these types of bands, and I realized
there's a lot who are advocating for them, but they're
not all advocating for them.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Julie Harris, the National Federation for Republican Women President, thank
you so much for joining us this morning on Alabama's
Morning News
Joining me now to talk about this is our next guest,
Julie Harris. She is the National Federation of Republican Women President. Julie,
Welcome to Alabama's Morning News.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Good morning, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Absolutely so this case, as I was just explaining, it
doesn't necessarily mean that Supreme Court itself the national government
made a decision on this, but rather that it goes
back to the ruling from the Tennessee Supreme Court. What
are a lot of advocates for this, for a gender
firm and care saying about this, I imagine they're not thrilled.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Well, I would imagine not that me as a president
of the National Federation of Republican Women and all women's
organization where the moms of the country, we believe that
the Supreme Court got it right. Tennessee got it right.
Child welfare and basic common sense prevailed. The very first
state to pass a law like this was my home state,
(00:54):
Arkansas in twenty twenty one. It was my dear friend,
Representative Robin took a bold step and sponsored legislation that
would band genital mutilation and castration of children. And now
we've seen I think twenty seven maybe states that have
(01:15):
tried to pass something very similar. We're living in the
right direction. Think about it. We are a country that
has some of the best medical care in the world
that sadly we're refusing to follow science and the results.
We're talking about life altering, irreversible medical procedures that will
(01:37):
forever alter the child's body, most likely shortening their lifespan
and committing them to a life of medical dependency. It
carries devastating physical, emotional, financial consequences that no miner can
fully comprehend what we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
One of the things that you often hear in the
situation is they say that this is necessary, that these
transgender kids are more likely to commit suicide if they're
not if they're not allowed to continue on. But I
would say, if you look at many of the cases
I've seen, it's the other way around. Once they have
received their what they're calling gender it's not really gender affirming. Really,
(02:17):
what it is actually gender denying care once they've but
once they've as you as you put it, once they've
gone through the mutilation process, a lot of times ten
fifteen years down the road, they regret it. And that
is a lot of times when you see these these
suicides happen. There was a I don't know if you're
familiar at all with the case surrounding this. I guess
he was a psychiatrist. His name was doctor Money, and
(02:40):
he did this experiment. And this is back in the
probably I think the fifties sixties where he had there
was the there was these two twins that were born,
two twin boys, and uh they were and they were circumcised,
and one of the circumstansions went wrong, and they said, well,
this could be an opportunity to try an experiment on
this twin, one of these twins. So we said this
one boy was going to be a girl, so we
(03:03):
raised him as a her after they had the surgery done,
and they kept him from knowing the truth of what happened,
and it wasn't until much later in life that he
found out. And sadly, it led to it led to confusion,
it led to it led to depression, and it led
to his own suicide.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, I have heard a little bit about that, and
you're right. Studies showed that it's the opposite that children
that undergo these types of surgery it doesn't fix their problems.
And a lot of times. They're even more depressed when
you're thinking about children and raising children, and especially if
(03:42):
there are children who are having emotional issues or who
are struggling. It requires wisdom, love, responsibility, possibly even therapy.
Not making decisions that will forever change change their body.
And it's irreversible.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Well, just like you're not allowed to get it.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Remember it's life long medical treatment for the rest of
their life.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
And you know, you're not allowed to get a tattoo.
You can't. I can't take my fifteen year old daughter
for a tattoo. Even if I really wanted to get
a tattoo, No tattoo shop would do it because she's
got to be eighteen to get that done. It should
probably be the same thing. And if you turn eighteen
and you want to have the surgery done, okay, now
you're an adult. You can. Now you can, you know,
(04:28):
make that decision. I realized what the the other side
is going to say is, well, when they're young, that's
when you know it makes the most sense because they
haven't gone through puberty yet, and we can go ahead
and we can we can apply these these things to
slow down puberty or block puberty. And that's the reason
why they want to do it young, but it's still
I think it might be too soon to make that determination, even.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
More reason not to do it. They have things been
called in puberty looks. I have said that many times
young people don't even know what they want to do
when they grow up.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, I think it's a to save eighteen year olds
decide what they want to do when they grow up.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
If they didn't even vote for the president of the
United States, right, and they can't sign a contract, they
can't buy alcohol. There's lots of things and people cannot
do until they reach adulthood, and even then, when they
reach adulthood, it's questionable on it they shouldn't do these
things sooner or later.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
We got to let people make their own their own
poor decisions. But I think at child, at that age,
you should be protected from those poor decisions. And I
guess really what we're doing is protecting those children from
their parents poor decision or I'm gonna say it's probably
one parent who decides that they want they want the
child to go through this gender affirming care like they
want to call it. Because I've not seen a lot
(05:39):
of situations where you've where you've got a nuclear family,
you know, with a mom and a dad and three kids,
and they're all grown up in a normal Normal is
the wrong word, but you know what I mean. It's
it's in a situations like that, usually it's an unusual environment. Yeah,
it's usually an unusual situation where all of a sudden
Sally decides she wants to be Tommy. It's it's usually
a strange situation to begin with.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yes, absolutely, and even if there are rare cases that
both parents are supportive of it. Again, to your point,
they can't get a tattoo, they can't not alcohol, they
can't enter into a contract. There are a lot of
things with or without parents, we do not allow miners
to do well. It's common sense. It's hard to believe
(06:23):
we're even having to have this discussion, like the real
serious discussion about this, but we are.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
And it's not over yet. You know, this didn't This
didn't settle it. This is just that there'll be another
one and the case will get challenged and it'll go
to Supreme Court again, and we'll see this continue on
for a while. I don't know what the endgame is
because it seems like we're there's there's something afoot because
there's a coalition of the the the gay lesbian community
(06:51):
along with the transgender community, where there's for some reason,
everyone's all in together, but they're not really because there's plenty,
I know, plenty of gay men who are definitely not
transgender and don't agree with all this transgender surgery stuff.
There's different people with different opinions on that side of things,
and it's interesting that we try and lump everyone together
(07:13):
as if they're all one monolith.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
That is exactly right. There's people on both sides who
have varying opinions about this. One good thing about this
ruling is it will definitely be a huge step towards
protecting our children from experimental drugs and chemical surgical castrations.
As several of these state laws are making their way
(07:37):
to record, including in Arkansas's, it's still at the eighth circuit.
So this is a good step in the right direction.
And to your point, we're seeing the LGBT community come
out and support these types of bands, and I realized
there's a lot who are advocating for them, but they're
not all advocating for them.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Julie Harris, the National Federation for Republican Women President, thank
you so much for joining us this morning on Alabama's
Morning News
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